Wikipedia founder Jimmy Wales joins Francesca Rudkin and Louise Ayrey for a chat about trust, outrage and what the internet is doing to the way we see each other.

From doomscrolling and toxic algorithms to political division, online arguments and the collapse of nuance, Wales explains why social media can make humanity seem far worse than it really is, and why he believes algorithms are “feeding the trolls”.

He also shares why he deleted social media from his phone, what it really means to be informed in 2026, and why assuming good faith might be one of the most important skills we’ve lost online.

Plus:
Why outrage spreads faster than kindness online 
The danger of mistaking social media for real life 
How politicians and algorithms exploit division • Why most people are more moderate than the internet suggests 
The surprising role trust plays in healthy societies and relationships

Wikipedia founder Jimmy Wales joins Francesca Rudkin and Louise Ayrey for a chat about trust, outrage and what the internet is doing to the way we see each other.
From doomscrolling and toxic algorithms to political division, online arguments and the collapse of nuance, Wales explains why social media can make humanity seem far worse than it really is, and why he believes algorithms are &ldquo;feeding the trolls&rdquo;.
He also shares why he deleted social media from his phone, what it really means to be informed in 2026, and why assuming good faith might be one of the most important skills we&rsquo;ve lost online.
Plus:
<ul>
<li>Why outrage spreads faster than kindness online&nbsp;</li>
<li>The danger of mistaking social media for real life&nbsp;</li>
<li>How politicians and algorithms exploit division &bull; Why most people are more moderate than the internet suggests&nbsp;</li>
<li>The surprising role trust plays in healthy societies and relationships</li>
</ul>

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In a world where well-being influencers are driven by endorsements, wellness trends generally come at a cost, and busy lives disrupt our best intentions, all many women want are simple, science-based facts to help us live a productive, happy balanced life.   
Enter The Little Things. Broadcaster Francesca Rudkin and health researcher Louise Ayrey have been friends for over a decade and have been through it all, and along the way have learned the benefits of practical information over costly fads. Join them for new episodes on Saturdays where they talk to experts on health, wellbeing, parenting and relationships to give you the information you need to thrive!

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Jimmy Wales on why the internet is such an angry place

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