Wikipedia founder Jimmy Wales joins Francesca Rudkin and Louise Ayrey for a chat about trust, outrage and what the internet is doing to the way we see each other.

From doomscrolling and toxic algorithms to political division, online arguments and the collapse of nuance, Wales explains why social media can make humanity seem far worse than it really is, and why he believes algorithms are “feeding the trolls”.

He also shares why he deleted social media from his phone, what it really means to be informed in 2026, and why assuming good faith might be one of the most important skills we’ve lost online.

Plus:

• Why outrage spreads faster than kindness online 
• The danger of mistaking social media for real life 
• How politicians and algorithms exploit division • Why most people are more moderate than the internet suggests 
• The surprising role trust plays in healthy societies and relationships