UnitedHealthcare CEO murder suspect Luigi Mangione is beloved by some on the left, while Daniel Penny is viewed as the villain; More from the interview between President-elect Donald Trump and Kristen Welker of NBC News; GUEST: CEO of Job Creators Network, Alfredo Ortiz, joins the program to discuss Trump's support from Hispanic voters; Dan Abrams and Black Lives Matter leader Chivona Newsome debate about the Daniel Penny verdict; An Israeli-Arab was at Oxford Union debating against an entire crowd of pro Palestinians.