Hi, and welcome back to the Carol Markowitz Show on iHeartRadio. My guest today is Jason Chankits, an American politician and Fox News contributor and the author of the new book They're Coming for You, How deep state spies, NGOs and woke corporations plan to push you out of the economy. Jason, so nice to have you on.

Hi, and welcome back to the Carol Markowitz Show on iHeartRadio. My guest today is Jason Chankits, an American politician and Fox News contributor and the author of the new book They're Coming for You, How deep state spies, NGOs and woke corporations plan to push you out of the economy. Jason, so nice to have you on.

Hey, thanks for having me. Appreciate it.

Hey, thanks for having me. Appreciate it.

That is a terrifying title. And why do you want us not to sleep at night?

That is a terrifying title. And why do you want us not to sleep at night?

Who are they? And should people be concerned?

Who are they? And should people be concerned?

If you saw recently, you saw that Doge really uncovered all the money, the waste, the fraud, the abuse, the hundreds of billions of dollars a taxpayer money was going out the door. But this book lays out there and examines and reveals is how much data.

If you saw recently, you saw that Doge really uncovered all the money, the waste, the fraud, the abuse, the hundreds of billions of dollars a taxpayer money was going out the door. But this book lays out there and examines and reveals is how much data.

It's the data side of the equation.

It's the data side of the equation.

Most people, I think, understand that they're going to trade a little bit of their privacy of ways to increase their convenience so they can find their local coffee shop easier, that sort of thing. What they don't understand is how pervasive it is in understanding everything about you. Facial recognition, your hair color, your propensity, your sexual preferences. All of these things are now being collected by the government, sold by the government, and used by the government that they would never be able to use otherwise. And that's what's scary, and you have to be worried about it. And you combine that with artificial intelligence and the deep fakes and where we're going. It is a scary world. But there's there are blueprints out there to see where this is going. You think of China, I think of other places. A lot of people they wanted to be debanked, they wanted to be pushed out of the economy, and that's what's scary.

Most people, I think, understand that they're going to trade a little bit of their privacy of ways to increase their convenience so they can find their local coffee shop easier, that sort of thing. What they don't understand is how pervasive it is in understanding everything about you. Facial recognition, your hair color, your propensity, your sexual preferences. All of these things are now being collected by the government, sold by the government, and used by the government that they would never be able to use otherwise. And that's what's scary, and you have to be worried about it. And you combine that with artificial intelligence and the deep fakes and where we're going. It is a scary world. But there's there are blueprints out there to see where this is going. You think of China, I think of other places. A lot of people they wanted to be debanked, they wanted to be pushed out of the economy, and that's what's scary.

Does the average person understand what's coming or do you think that it's still so far away from you know, normal life that it's hard to convey to people that they should be worried about this threat.

Does the average person understand what's coming or do you think that it's still so far away from you know, normal life that it's hard to convey to people that they should be worried about this threat.

Well, what I worry about is that the data that's not a genie that's easy to be put.

Well, what I worry about is that the data that's not a genie that's easy to be put.

Back in the bottle.

Back in the bottle.

And what I really worry about are these young kids that are growing up. You know, I'm a little bit older now, but they're growing up in an atmosphere where everything is captured. But what really bothers me is how Our government is dealing with this because, for instance, law enforcement would have to have probable cause or articulable suspicion or have to get a warrant in order to do things in order to profile you and track you and understand who you are and what you're doing. But in order to get around that, they just sell data and then they buy it from a data broker, and then once they buy it from a data broker, they feel like they don't need a warrant in order to track you. And you think, well, wait, I haven't done anything wrong. I lead a clean life, you know, but what's happening? Even literally in the last forty eight hours, the Federal Reserve has said that there they do bank exams and they used to require banks to minimize reputational risk. And what that meant in the Federal for banking is if you do business with people who shop at Cabela's, who buy maybe a Trump hat, maybe they went out and they went to a rally, then you should be tracked and you should not allow to be to have a banking relationship, or you should pay right, or you should if you went to Cabella's and bought a gun, that's legally and lawfully allowed. You can only have a certain percentage of those people in your banking PFOILO portfolio. So like they didn't like meat and poultry, and so the meat and poultry producers of this country, they were being debanked.

And what I really worry about are these young kids that are growing up. You know, I'm a little bit older now, but they're growing up in an atmosphere where everything is captured. But what really bothers me is how Our government is dealing with this because, for instance, law enforcement would have to have probable cause or articulable suspicion or have to get a warrant in order to do things in order to profile you and track you and understand who you are and what you're doing. But in order to get around that, they just sell data and then they buy it from a data broker, and then once they buy it from a data broker, they feel like they don't need a warrant in order to track you. And you think, well, wait, I haven't done anything wrong. I lead a clean life, you know, but what's happening? Even literally in the last forty eight hours, the Federal Reserve has said that there they do bank exams and they used to require banks to minimize reputational risk. And what that meant in the Federal for banking is if you do business with people who shop at Cabela's, who buy maybe a Trump hat, maybe they went out and they went to a rally, then you should be tracked and you should not allow to be to have a banking relationship, or you should pay right, or you should if you went to Cabella's and bought a gun, that's legally and lawfully allowed. You can only have a certain percentage of those people in your banking PFOILO portfolio. So like they didn't like meat and poultry, and so the meat and poultry producers of this country, they were being debanked.

They couldn't use them banking system.

They couldn't use them banking system.

Malania and Baron Trump were pushed out of the banking system.

Malania and Baron Trump were pushed out of the banking system.

So it's pretty scary what they're doing.

So it's pretty scary what they're doing.

You were in the US House Representatives for almost a decade.

You were in the US House Representatives for almost a decade.

Is there anything that Congress can do to stop this?

Is there anything that Congress can do to stop this?

Yeah?

Yeah?

Yeah, absolutely, because first of all, the best disinfectant is to expose it. And Donald Trump has done a masterful job of starting to tear this down. I think there's a reason why, literally the Federal Reserve just got rid of this requirement.

Yeah, absolutely, because first of all, the best disinfectant is to expose it. And Donald Trump has done a masterful job of starting to tear this down. I think there's a reason why, literally the Federal Reserve just got rid of this requirement.

But we have to know about this.

But we have to know about this.

For instance, in the state of Florida, when you're sixteen year old, maybe you have a sixteen year old daughter went and got a driver's license for the first time. Did the people know that when she got that driver's license, she put in her height, her weight, her hair color, took a picture of her that the state of Florida sold that information. They actually profited for You paid to get the driver's license. Then they sold it. Well, it's things like this get exposed. People say, wait, what who did you sell it to? And did you know that there's a company out there, for instance, called Clearview AI. I'm not saying they did anything illegal, but they have billions of photos. So when you walk down the street, or you walk into a shop, or you post something on Instagram or Snapchat, or or maybe you just you know, post a profile picture on Facebook, did you know that's all being what they call scraped and built into a profile. And then maybe when you get in your car and you start driving, they're gonna they're going to gauge your speed, how often you look into the rear view mirror, what speed? These are rolling computers. These we detail how the car companies they sell this information. You know, who wants to buy insurance companies? Right, that's how they But you don't.

For instance, in the state of Florida, when you're sixteen year old, maybe you have a sixteen year old daughter went and got a driver's license for the first time. Did the people know that when she got that driver's license, she put in her height, her weight, her hair color, took a picture of her that the state of Florida sold that information. They actually profited for You paid to get the driver's license. Then they sold it. Well, it's things like this get exposed. People say, wait, what who did you sell it to? And did you know that there's a company out there, for instance, called Clearview AI. I'm not saying they did anything illegal, but they have billions of photos. So when you walk down the street, or you walk into a shop, or you post something on Instagram or Snapchat, or or maybe you just you know, post a profile picture on Facebook, did you know that's all being what they call scraped and built into a profile. And then maybe when you get in your car and you start driving, they're gonna they're going to gauge your speed, how often you look into the rear view mirror, what speed? These are rolling computers. These we detail how the car companies they sell this information. You know, who wants to buy insurance companies? Right, that's how they But you don't.

Give permission to do that, did you?

Give permission to do that, did you?

But once you know all this stuff, then you start to open your eyes and say, wait a second, this is not who we are. So I think Congress has to understand it, and then they're going to have to put some guardrails on.

But once you know all this stuff, then you start to open your eyes and say, wait a second, this is not who we are. So I think Congress has to understand it, and then they're going to have to put some guardrails on.

Well as somebody who has a fifteen year old daughter who did just get her learner's permit in the state of Florida. It makes me feel kind of helpless that this goes on and I can't do anything about it. Is there anything we can do on a state level?

Well as somebody who has a fifteen year old daughter who did just get her learner's permit in the state of Florida. It makes me feel kind of helpless that this goes on and I can't do anything about it. Is there anything we can do on a state level?

Yeah, you have to expose it.

Yeah, you have to expose it.

And I think Florida ultimately or has done the right the right thing. Most people don't understand that about half of our states.

And I think Florida ultimately or has done the right the right thing. Most people don't understand that about half of our states.

They also trade all this information to the FBI.

They also trade all this information to the FBI.

So you're suddenly in a database and you just think, well why, and then you think, well, wait, they haven't been able to keep this data clean, right, Yeah, they haven't been able to protect it. So the amount of data that's out there is so massive and so big, and there's really no way to pull it back. And think of it this way, the government knows almost everything about us, and we know very little about the government.

So you're suddenly in a database and you just think, well why, and then you think, well, wait, they haven't been able to keep this data clean, right, Yeah, they haven't been able to protect it. So the amount of data that's out there is so massive and so big, and there's really no way to pull it back. And think of it this way, the government knows almost everything about us, and we know very little about the government.

Right.

Right.

That's so upside down. Right, we're supposed to be the private citizens, they're supposed to be the public. But it's the opposite, and that's what's wrong.

That's so upside down. Right, we're supposed to be the private citizens, they're supposed to be the public. But it's the opposite, and that's what's wrong.

That's why I wrote the book They're Coming for You, because they are going to use it to manipulate you. And we talk about how they use it to manipulate elections, voter turnout all of these things. Who gets benefits who doesn't? Who gets to go banking, who doesn't, We get to see what material who doesn't.

That's why I wrote the book They're Coming for You, because they are going to use it to manipulate you. And we talk about how they use it to manipulate elections, voter turnout all of these things. Who gets benefits who doesn't? Who gets to go banking, who doesn't, We get to see what material who doesn't.

We're going to take a quick break and be right back on the Carol Marcoit Show. Were there any prizes in writing they're coming for you?

We're going to take a quick break and be right back on the Carol Marcoit Show. Were there any prizes in writing they're coming for you?

Did you find anything you didn't expect to find?

Did you find anything you didn't expect to find?

Big the data brokerage business is and how pervasive and incestuous it is with our federal government.

Big the data brokerage business is and how pervasive and incestuous it is with our federal government.

Days after Joe Biden.

Days after Joe Biden.

Took office, he signed this like five hundred thousand dollars contract with Clearview AI. Well, why why was that such an importance of the White House to have this contract to have all this facial recognition? Because they wanted to get a picture of everybody that was going to a Trump rally, everybody that showed up on you know, at certain places, everybody unbelievable. And that's where it started, really in the Obama administration where they operation choke Point, that's what they called it. They thought they could choke off guns in this country by not allowing people to own guns or wanted to buy ammunition, from being able to have a banking relationship so that really shocked me.

Took office, he signed this like five hundred thousand dollars contract with Clearview AI. Well, why why was that such an importance of the White House to have this contract to have all this facial recognition? Because they wanted to get a picture of everybody that was going to a Trump rally, everybody that showed up on you know, at certain places, everybody unbelievable. And that's where it started, really in the Obama administration where they operation choke Point, that's what they called it. They thought they could choke off guns in this country by not allowing people to own guns or wanted to buy ammunition, from being able to have a banking relationship so that really shocked me.

That it's best I can tell.

That it's best I can tell.

It's about a three hundred and fifty billion dollar industry on data brokerages, and that's that's growing exponentially.

It's about a three hundred and fifty billion dollar industry on data brokerages, and that's that's growing exponentially.

Did you enjoy your time in the House?

Did you enjoy your time in the House?

Oh?

Oh?

I love you.

I love you.

Your handle on Twitter X is Jason in the House. I always still think of you as in the House.

Your handle on Twitter X is Jason in the House. I always still think of you as in the House.

But that's because nobody can pronounce chafits right. So you know, I love I love policy. I love digging my fingernail deep into public policy and exposing because what I find is most people are like, wait, what, Yeah, we would never have done it.

But that's because nobody can pronounce chafits right. So you know, I love I love policy. I love digging my fingernail deep into public policy and exposing because what I find is most people are like, wait, what, Yeah, we would never have done it.

And I love that part of it.

And I love that part of it.

Right, But maybe actually you're being even more effective on the outside by writing books like this, because you know, Congress is a little slow to action a little bit.

Right, But maybe actually you're being even more effective on the outside by writing books like this, because you know, Congress is a little slow to action a little bit.

You know, you think, yeah.

You know, you think, yeah.

They do, they don't really move that quickly. But you know your.

They do, they don't really move that quickly. But you know your.

Book, they're coming for you. There's really no way to misunderstand it or to not want to take action once you read it. Do you feel like that's true?

Book, they're coming for you. There's really no way to misunderstand it or to not want to take action once you read it. Do you feel like that's true?

Yeah, Look, we have four hundred and fifty references. It took me here and a half plus to put all this together.

Yeah, Look, we have four hundred and fifty references. It took me here and a half plus to put all this together.

Wow.

Wow.

And then the other thing is people with kids. If you want to understand, like how the big movie studios manipulate your kids. How how in California in particular, they hand out free computers. Oh look, how good we are. We're so nice. We hand out all these computers. That's how they can monitor you twenty four to seven. And they are they're taking that data and then they're selling it. That's what's crazy about it. They're monetizing it and selling it. And it just makes me mad. And this is the best way I can find to kind of put it all together. So somebody can either listen to the audiobook or read it for themselves and say, I've got to do something about that. I got to make sure my local city doesn't do this or my state doesn't do that.

And then the other thing is people with kids. If you want to understand, like how the big movie studios manipulate your kids. How how in California in particular, they hand out free computers. Oh look, how good we are. We're so nice. We hand out all these computers. That's how they can monitor you twenty four to seven. And they are they're taking that data and then they're selling it. That's what's crazy about it. They're monetizing it and selling it. And it just makes me mad. And this is the best way I can find to kind of put it all together. So somebody can either listen to the audiobook or read it for themselves and say, I've got to do something about that. I got to make sure my local city doesn't do this or my state doesn't do that.

So a question that I ask all of my guests is what do you worry about?

So a question that I ask all of my guests is what do you worry about?

Is it this? This? This? Really? Is I think this generation.

Is it this? This? This? Really? Is I think this generation.

I have six grandkids at this point, my wife blessed, Yes, they're blessed.

I have six grandkids at this point, my wife blessed, Yes, they're blessed.

We've got three kid.

We've got three kid.

Yeah, we had six grade and I look at those little kids and we're taking videos and pictures, and you know, because the phone is so great.

Yeah, we had six grade and I look at those little kids and we're taking videos and pictures, and you know, because the phone is so great.

I can always capture it. But they're going to grow up in a world that's so weird, right.

I can always capture it. But they're going to grow up in a world that's so weird, right.

Artificial intelligence, deep fake, And I just I worry about how bizarre the world's going to get the next really in the short while, next five to ten years, it's really going to be a very different place, and not when we're going to want to live in if we're not careful.

Artificial intelligence, deep fake, And I just I worry about how bizarre the world's going to get the next really in the short while, next five to ten years, it's really going to be a very different place, and not when we're going to want to live in if we're not careful.

But I wonder if they're going to see it as weird.

But I wonder if they're going to see it as weird.

My kids already, you know, just their technological use is so different from mine.

My kids already, you know, just their technological use is so different from mine.

Will they see all of this is odd?

Will they see all of this is odd?

Or will they be able to spot, for example, deep fakes very easily.

Or will they be able to spot, for example, deep fakes very easily.

It's just there. It's just their way they're going to grow up. But what are they going to do for jobs? That's a whole nother. Yeah, we're going to have three and a half year old granddaughter. She knows how to grab her mom's phone, hit the four buttons and then hit FaceTime video wow. And once a day I'll get a call and I just know that that little girl is going to be calling me, and of course I'm going to answer it. But yeah, let me think how how that's just how she's grown up.

It's just there. It's just their way they're going to grow up. But what are they going to do for jobs? That's a whole nother. Yeah, we're going to have three and a half year old granddaughter. She knows how to grab her mom's phone, hit the four buttons and then hit FaceTime video wow. And once a day I'll get a call and I just know that that little girl is going to be calling me, and of course I'm going to answer it. But yeah, let me think how how that's just how she's grown up.

What advice would you give your sixteen year old self having to you know, kind of think about doing it all over again.

What advice would you give your sixteen year old self having to you know, kind of think about doing it all over again.

Well, if I was living right now, i'd say put down the phone and have those experiences. And my sixteen year old self, who didn't have mobile phones when he was growing up, right it didn't have I just cherished those outdoor get out there, go do whatever, be safe, be smart. But I felt like I tried a lot of things. I would have tried even more, things like I wish I had done more surfing.

Well, if I was living right now, i'd say put down the phone and have those experiences. And my sixteen year old self, who didn't have mobile phones when he was growing up, right it didn't have I just cherished those outdoor get out there, go do whatever, be safe, be smart. But I felt like I tried a lot of things. I would have tried even more, things like I wish I had done more surfing.

I wish I had learned how to golf. I wish I had done.

I wish I had learned how to golf. I wish I had done.

Like there's so many but the things that I did try they changed my life. And I would just I would turn up the volume on that if you will to do even more.

Like there's so many but the things that I did try they changed my life. And I would just I would turn up the volume on that if you will to do even more.

I love that.

I love that.

I really feel like people are living too much online and on the screens.

I really feel like people are living too much online and on the screens.

It's it's you know, this.

It's it's you know, this.

Is a show about largely about living better and improving your life, and it's one of the things people say all the time, I wish I could put down my phone, I wish I could get off the screens, and then they don't do it.

Is a show about largely about living better and improving your life, and it's one of the things people say all the time, I wish I could put down my phone, I wish I could get off the screens, and then they don't do it.

I think that's really a.

I think that's really a.

Good lesson for people. Well, I love this conversation. The book is called They're Coming for you. You can buy it anywhere books are sold. Jason end us here with your best tip from my listeners on how they can improve their lives.

Good lesson for people. Well, I love this conversation. The book is called They're Coming for you. You can buy it anywhere books are sold. Jason end us here with your best tip from my listeners on how they can improve their lives.

Love your neighbor, love yourself, and love your love your family. It's okay to just pick up the phone or go drop by and do the old fashioned thing and knock on their door. And when you walk by your neighbor, you know, say hello. It just makes a world of difference. And I just being sincere in your heart, I just I think that's I saw a neighbor the other day and.

Love your neighbor, love yourself, and love your love your family. It's okay to just pick up the phone or go drop by and do the old fashioned thing and knock on their door. And when you walk by your neighbor, you know, say hello. It just makes a world of difference. And I just being sincere in your heart, I just I think that's I saw a neighbor the other day and.

Seen it in a while and it was just great.

Seen it in a while and it was just great.

And it's because I stopped and paused. And I don't regret those ten minutes at all. In fact, I cherished them. And I think we need we as a community, as a people, as a nation, we just.

And it's because I stopped and paused. And I don't regret those ten minutes at all. In fact, I cherished them. And I think we need we as a community, as a people, as a nation, we just.

Need to do more of that.

Need to do more of that.

I love that he is.

I love that he is.

Jason Schaefits by their coming for you everywhere books are sold.

Jason Schaefits by their coming for you everywhere books are sold.

Thank you so much for coming on.

Thank you so much for coming on.

Thank you.

Thank you.

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