The kids have been back at school for a couple of weeks now and we are slowly getting used to making lunchboxes again (god how boring is it, and washing all the bits is the pits!). But it can still be super stressful to get the kids out the door, especially with many companies transitioning back into the office. We are joined on the pod today by Lisa Wipfli who shares three kids with Nova Sydney brekkie host Wipa. She shares her tips on getting ready and out the door in the morning, and opens up about the stress of giving birth at the start of the pandemic, just as Wipa and his brekkie team were being tested for Covid.