In this episode, we're discussing the concerning issue of escaped prisoners in South Africa. Nicholas Gottsal, a member of the National Council of Provinces for the Democratic Alliance, joins us to shed light on the matter. He shares his experience questioning the actual numbers of escapes, which he believes are underreported. Nicholas highlights the need for a biometric system to track prisoners and prevent future escapes. He also touches on the lack of consequence management within the South African Police Services, citing instances of corruption and favoritism. This conversation raises important questions about accountability and the safety of citizens.