Think you know Karl Stefanovic? You might think again after this. Karl is one of Australia's most well known television journalists and co-hosted the Today show with Jess Rowe in 2006. It was a tumultuous time, and they haven't spoken since. 

In this episode Karl sits down with Jess for the first time in 14 years to talk about his most important life lesson and how it significantly changed his outlook, why he’s deeply sorry for not being a ‘better and stronger man, and the reason he’s been able to keep a thick skin when faced with ‘monumental’ criticism. Karl also explains why his divorce taught him the difference between a psychologist and psychiatrist, and how finding love again with Jasmine has kept him on course. Spoiler Alert: This episode contains tears, laugh snorts, and a whopping amount of vulnerability

You can catch Karl on The TODAY show weekdays from 6am on Nine 

For more episodes download the free LiSTNR app 

Think you know Karl Stefanovic? You might think again after this. Karl is one of Australia's most well known television journalists and co-hosted the Today show with Jess Rowe in 2006. It was a tumultuous time, and they haven't spoken since.&nbsp;
In this episode Karl sits down with Jess for the first time in 14 years to talk about his most important life lesson and how it significantly changed his outlook, why he&rsquo;s deeply sorry for not being a &lsquo;better and stronger man, and the reason he&rsquo;s been able to keep a thick skin when faced with &lsquo;monumental&rsquo; criticism. Karl also explains why his divorce taught him the difference between a psychologist and psychiatrist, and how finding love again with Jasmine has kept him on course. Spoiler Alert: This episode contains tears, laugh snorts, and a whopping amount of vulnerability
You can catch Karl on The TODAY show weekdays from 6am on Nine&nbsp;
For more episodes download the free LiSTNR app

Australian Journalist and TV Presenter Jess Rowe jumps past the small talk, to show you a different side of her famous guests in these heartfelt and honest conversations. 

Australian Journalist and TV Presenter Jess Rowe jumps past the small talk, to show you a different side of her famous guests in these heartfelt and honest conversations.

Jumping past the small talk to show you a different side of our famous guests

The Jess Rowe Big Talk Show

Australian Journalist, TV Presenter and author Jessica Rowe jumps past the small talk, and goes big and deep with some of our most loved personalities. From love to loss, and everything in between Jess will show you a different side of her guests who might seem to have it all together in these raw and honest conversations about the things that matter. 

Australian Journalist, TV Presenter and author Jessica Rowe jumps past the small talk, and goes big and deep with some of our most loved personalities. From love to loss, and everything in between Jess will show you a different side of her guests who might seem to have it all together in these raw and honest conversations about the things that matter.&nbsp;

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