Tyra Banks joins Jermaine for a deeply personal conversation about why the spotlight was never her true passion and why legacy now matters more than fame.

She opens up about launching Smize and Dream in Australia, the pressure of starting again in a new country, her determination not to be the “ugly American,” and the fear, chaos, and humility that come with building something from the ground up.

Tyra shares her vision for giving back through an ice cream school for underserved communities and explains why she created Hot Ice Cream as a way to help ice cream businesses survive winter and protect livelihoods.

At the heart of the episode is a powerful reflection on her mother’s sacrifices, the values that shaped her, and the message Tyra would give back to the woman who taught her to dream, work hard, and lift others along the way.