The guys are joined by Mike Golic Jr to preview the National Championship game between Notre Dame and Ohio State, and roast Drake over his UMG lawsuit #volume
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Welcome to Jenkis and Jones on The Volume podcast Network. It is Thursday, January sixteenth. We've got a fun episode for you today. We're going to talk a little college football national championship with our special guest, and then John will be joining us in a few minutes and we'll talk about the We might talk about Drake for a couple of minutes.
It might happen. It's very possible. Stay tuned.
We are as you can see, joined our special guest, Mike Gelick Junior Gojo, a co host of Gojo and Golick.
Thank you for hopping on with us, bro. We really appreciate it. Now.
I appreciate you guys have me man, It's nice to be back after getting to be a part of the run through the college football game there and getting to commentate a little bit.
So happy to be back here. Appreciate it. Hell yeah, I gonna talk some real football today.
Foot the real football that's making me nervous hell right now.
Fandom is a mistake.
We all signed up to just poison ourselves willingly because we're stupid, and I hate myself for it.
That's how you're feeling right now to nerds of that man, you stressing.
I have gotten to that point where I have allowed because like any true fan is always the last one to actually believe in their team, like the ones that have been around teams that have hurt them enough over the years. You get analysts and my friends in the media that like pick notre Dame early on, and I always lasted the party because I'm like, I used to mess up people's lives when I was a part of this team. So I know what we are capable of better than almost anybody, and so you're gonna have to always earn my respect, you know, the latest in this And I'm finally at that point now where I believe that we are going to win the game, and so I have set myself up for the ultimate version of this heartbreak.
I can't wait.
What was that?
Like, have you had any confidence to this point or has every game been like, well, it's great that we got to this, but you know what I mean, like where are you just as a fan like you said, like, how how do you process those games?
I hit confidence, thankfully, like in this season, probably around like the Army or Navy game where I was like, oh okay, like We're really like we have weaponized this thing. After the you know, Northern Illinois loss that everyone talks about the defense and that was the real thing too, is like the defense was.
In war machine mode like that was.
And the confidence that gives a roster Like the team I played on that played in the title game, we were just like this team defensive led like we had the number one defense in the country for most of that year. We had dudes. Mantai was second in the Heisman voting that year. We had future NFL guys there, like you were ready to go. And so this year's team doing that and taking the football away once we got to that and it was like six turnovers against the Navy team that was actually good. Again this year, I was like, all right, we might be onto something here, and they've just stepped up every step of the way. So I do have some confidence now, which is also a dangerous thing.
You know, that's interesting you mentioned, you know, your time as a player, because that's a question that I have, like, what would is there a differ difference in the nerves that you have, you know, being that year someone you were on that Notre Dame squad that played Alabama in that championship in twenty thirteen. Yeah right, Yeah, are the nerves different from being a player as opposed to being a fan right now? Because I imagine if you're a player, you know there's a part of you like, bro, we can beat anybody. Let's fucking go, Like, is there a difference now that you're not on the field.
One hundred percent?
Like that's the the I don't have much of a like ego about the time I played at all. I was a you know, above average player at best. On my best day, I was a seventeen game starter in college and a sip of coffee in the NFL. But the one thing that pisses me off when people were like, and I'm not accusing you of this, by the way, I'm saying in general, because I get a lot of people that come up were like, did you guys really think you had a chance in that game against Alabama?
And I'm like, yes, of course, Like look at the teams that we had.
Beaten, the games that we had won that year, Like, you don't get to that point mentally not having confidence in yourself, and at that point of the season we had earned that confidence and back then too, and This is the biggest I think difference between then and now in a lot of ways is we have forty days to get ready for that game. Like the BCS era, you had a huge gap of time, and so if you weren't ready to play in that game, you were never going to be ready. Like that was the most confident and prepared I have been for a football game. Now it proved to not be earned confidence about a quarter into that game, but it's still going into that one. Like I puked out of nerves before every football game I ever started, high school or college, and that was the one I didn't throw up before because I'm like, I'm ready. I'm not going to be more ready than I am for this game, And so the nerves are totally different because you are working towards something, you have a goal in mind here, and you have the agency to influence the outcome. I just have to sit on my ass and hope these guys can figure it out, Like I have to hope that they can go and do this, and I got no way to control it. And so it's amazing how much different. Like when you're a player, Monday comes and Hey, if you had a bad loss in the weekend before I got to go put on pads again and get ready to practice, Like, I don't have time to worry about all this stuff if Notre Dame loses. Now, like the NIU game ruined my life into the next week. Here sitting as a fan and a former player.
Now, yeah, you know, Notre Dames in such an interesting spot with all of the realignment in college football, and you know, I think I would have thought maybe in a kind of a bad spot, given how conference driven it was. And obviously they've wielded the power and influence in a very intelligent and skillful way. But it's it is like you're in an interesting spot. I guess my question is, as a Notre Dame fan and alum, how do you feel about where you are and how much are you enjoying the Brian Kelly saying, Oh, I want to go somewhere I can win a championship, kind of going with that narrative, right of like it's it's gonna be the SEC's world, and instead you get an alum go, oh shit, I mean we'll go to the national championship this year.
Bro, I don't know what the fuck you're talking about. Yeah, No, it is.
It is crazy because there was a while for me and to the point about you know, Brian Kelly leaving and you know, I know he's come back with some difference comments now, but the sentiment was and the idea was, hey, you know, ll us use a place where everybody gets to win a national championship. The last three coaches that have been head coach? Is there of all one national championships? You have all this talent in your backyard. There was a time where I wondered, like, hey, what Brian did and the back half of his time at Notre Dame. I mean, he's the winning this coach in Notre Dame history, Like he won more games than Newt Rockney at a place that does history like that, and couldn't.
Get over the hump.
And there was part of me that wondered, with all the changes in the sport, would Notre Dame have the opportunity to actually compete for titles in the way that they did in the past. And so their response to this era of football and how they've positioned themselves been amazing to me. Like playing the nil game with a lot of people going out here and being active and getting quarterbacks in the portal doing the things necessary to give themselves an opportunity. Then to your point, like positioning themselves now in the playoff era, where hey, listen, Notre Dame is always gonna have a shot with this because we smell like money. When people look at us, they see the dollar signs in the eyeballs that are driving the television contracts that make the decisions in all of this stuff. But now, like we went through the playoff the first time and it was well, Notre Dame can get one of those you know, seven at large bids, but they're never going to get to have a buy in the first round.
They're ever gonna get to do all that.
And then everyone hated that system so much they're like, oh, well we have to change this and see this naturally, and Notre Dame fans are over here like, I don't think you guys realize what you're about to let us get away with. And we went through that round when Cam Newton talked about it on first Take, where people were pissed off all over again at Notre Dame getting, in their eyes preferential treatment in the college football world, like it was gonna be a low margin for era before when it was the current system now. But if all of a sudden Notre Dame is allowed to in natural seeding actually get one of those buys in there, then this is really going to be a great spot for them where they've weathered this initial storm of all the change.
Yeah, person think Notre Dame's going to remain independent forever. I don't see them joining a conference. But you know, a unique.
Agree, Well, I would say, well, I always joke like Notre Dame will join a conference when we go to like I call it football Pangaea, like when we finally do the super Conference and everyone has to join up here and we get the one big sixty team league, Like that's when Notre Dame I think is going to end up joining league because for all the people that wanted the ACC to box them out of the CFP, like again, we look like money to them.
That's all they see. They don't see anything else.
They're just like Notre Dame is eyeballs and dollars, and so they're always going to have a place in whatever the postseason structure is. So I do agree they won't be in a conference until there isn't another conference.
There's just the one.
Yeah, and here's why I don't think Notre Dame it will ever join a conference is because with the new playoff set up, the winner the national champ twenty million dollars goes to their conference. If Notre Dame wins this, they get to pocket all twenty million, which is huge in the NIL era, and it would be even more hilarious given that they went through essentially a Big ten tournament, you know, to win this championship, knocking off Indiana Pits State at Ohio State if that's the case. So yeah, So that's another reason why I don't see Notre Dame ever joining the conference bro.
One hundred percent escically in the nil era now well and like and look to your point in the revenue sharing era now, because we're about to do a whole different version of this starting next year where it's hey, everyone's gonna have twenty twenty two million dollars or whatever to play with their and how you allocate how you do that is going to be up to you. But you're absolutely right, and that's been an interesting subplot is the amount of money Notre Dame has already made in that regard because they leave money on the table TV wise, like they're not making as much in the TV payouts year to year as the SEC are the big ten of these new deals. It's enough less, but they're looking at I'm sure saying, hey, we can offset it if we get an invitation to the dance, like we think we're capable of with the talent on this team every year. So I'm with you.
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About colleges that way now, you know.
I Mean it just is a like, Okay, I'm gonna go to Delaware State with DeShawn. I'm gonna do well there. Then I'm gonna go to Colorado with Dion and I'm gonna do well enough there to go get SEC money, and then I'll go to the NFL. And I do feel like something's lost there. I don't know that you can monetize what's lost there, But you know, how do you feel about the portal nil Era and the way that that's changed the experience, Like did we give up too much. Was there something in the middle of monetizing it that where we could maybe have.
Retained some of the emotional part of it for the kids.
So I do think and this is going to be asue I was literally just talking about my dad, uh talking about this with my dad today. Is there's an interesting thing starting to happen now. And like this year's Ohio State team is a good example. A bunch of dudes on that team that could have gone pro last year and all decided to come back here, and you get to sell it as, hey, we got unfinished business. We want to beat Michigan, we want to win a national championship, we want to do all that for the fan, it's the same version of that experience for the player. It's, hey, I don't have to worry about if I get hurt. Am I going to be able to collect on an insurance policy?
Now?
If I'm an NFL guy, my insurance policy is a seven figure deal that I'm inking in college right now.
And so they can come and do that. Penn State's getting ready to do that.
Drew Aller, Nick Singleton, keep Tron Allen, all these dudes coming back kind of for the same reasons there, and you've got certain positions like running back where hey, you know, unless you're a first rounder in the NFL, that first contract's not going to be great. They're going to grind you into the dirt.
College.
They love you college, They're clearly willing to pay for you because you can affect the game still at a high level here. And so I am wondering if now that we're getting more used to the structure of this, now that players are seeing, hey, I've got an opportunity to earn real money at this level here in a way that maybe if I'm not the perfect fit for the NFL, I can stay here a little bit longer. And it's this might be exclusive to the big places, You're like, what I'm talking about might elude some of the lower power for teams or the group of five teams who are unfortunately at this point always going to have to be fighting for their best guys at the end of every season because that's the way it's going to go. But for some fan bases, I do think this might steady things in a way and actually keep some guys in the college ranks that are the more known names, because that's the thing we always talk about whether it's college basketball on the men's side too, is hey one and John? All these different things have kind of killed the connective tissue on these rosters us getting to know guys a little bit. And I do wonder if in some ways and at some places, name, image and likeness might actually help us get to know more of these names longer than we would have in the past. Now, maybe not as long as like you're getting with some of these guys like Cam Rising in Utah, who's going on year eight in college. We might also be flying too close to the sun on that, but in these other ways, maybe it's possible.
Well, And the JUCO rule is going to be interesting too.
Now that JUCO eligibility is not going to count against you, you're gonna have, you know, be like if you get a BYU against a kid, it might do a mission two years of JUCO and be twenty eight.
Years old and the Redshire senior year and that grown man's strength is so different, man like it, it really is, like and that's the wild part about here, Like we know in the NFL you can play forever, but in college like now, granted you got kids built like Jeremiah Smith now and saying kid feels disingenuous because that is a grown man's body on an eighteen year old that's going out here and is gonna be the best player on the field in the National Championship game as a freshman, full stop. But like you are getting to the point where now you got a little bit more like young adults versus true almost grown men physically in college in a way that's gonna be wild.
Yeah, for sure.
Hey, so you you guys got to interview Broun earlier this week. Jackson put the tweet out that this is the podcast you're really excited for, which I'm sure is true.
But you know, what what was that like?
And uh?
And you know, did you guys enjoy that?
Or we talked sometimes about like when you get the top level guys, it's like what level of honesty can you get with them? What kind of a because we do interviews the way you guys do, right, Yeah, it's pretty casual and.
More real life like. So what was it like?
And you know, was it enjoyable or is it sort of like you're doing a press conference with three people?
You know what I mean?
Yeah, you know, like it's enjoyable in the fact that it's surreal, Like you know, it was like I remember the first time I I did an off season with the Saints and I sat down at breakfast one day and Drew Brees just came over and sat down at the table opposite me, like at the same table, and I'm like, well, shit, like this is like this is someone that was a video game character for me, that was a person I watched on and so to be able to sit there and see Lebron on the screen is one thing. But the fact that he talked back when I said words was sort of wild. But no, it was cool, like you could tell like he's super savvy, like we knew you're not gonna get anything out of him that he doesn't really want it, you know, out of this situation here because him as team is everyone else are that good at all this. But it was still one of those things like you know, it's there are certain people and I'm sure you guys being around him here, like you just meet him and you're like, oh, I get it.
Like the magnetism to draw all that stuff.
Like when I was at ESPN, my dad and Greene had magic Johnson on the show one day and I went over to the set after my show got done, just like be around, and I walked in and Magic Johnson dat me up, and I was like, oh okay, like this no wonder, Like whatever this guy wants to do, he gets to do, because I felt like the coolest dude in the room when he flashed the smile and addressed you and all that stuff. Like it's it's kind of that same oral with Lebron where it's like, oh, okay, I get all this now.
Yeah, you know.
Brob was a high school guy in football, play wilde receiver. He was widely recruited. He said he was considering going to Notre Dame because he had a really good relationship with the wide receiver coach at the time. Do y'all know who the wire receiver coach was? No Urban Meyer?
Oh yeah yeah, bro It's it's crazy how much like Urban Rockwood Notre Dame. Like he came up there for the coach this clinic one year and walked over and like I had been lightly recruited by Florida when he was there, Like you know, it was just I went on a visit or something. But you know, he's good at remembering guys, like a lot of those coaches were. And he walked up to me and he's like, check this out, and he pulled out before games at Notre Dame. I think they still do this, but they did this when I was there and through that they used to have like a medal of a saint and they would bless it and they would give it to you before every game, is like something to take with you there. And he had a whole like collection of like this is the one from when one of my kids was born, and this is one one when this was happened.
Like he had a connection to that place. I wish he could have.
You know, Lebron clearly made the right decision on that, but like him is the almost. And then Randy Moss was on campus in South Bend and we let him get away. So we got some big what IF's there in the receiving core for Notre Dame.
That would have been a movie in the making. Randy Moss at Notre Dame. I would.
Man, how long would have lasted four seconds?
As long as right state says you two while for us right you know, yeah, he would not have last that Notre Dame at no.
Man, it's it is.
It is different up there, especially God, the minute, the minute the snow hits around there, you learn, uh, you learn a lot about yourself trudging over to five a ms and a foot of snow in South Bend, Indiana.
That's not for me, bro, you feel me.
There were there were a certain there were certain days where like you're sitting there, like, it's so funny to think of now, like we'd be in my buddies buddies beat up hoop dee all there and all of our coats and stuff in the back because the a C barely works, just praying to God that the alternator cut on so we could make it over to these workouts here and just looking around like, oh man, like my buddies that came from California that saw snow for the first time they came to South Bend.
I'm like, I.
Truly don't know how y'all made this decision to come out here when I know what you've left now, Like especially I live in La now, so even more so, I'm like, what were you thinking?
Took that official visit on a crisp day in September when y'all were beating the hell out of somebody, and you know, oh, okay, it's fifty five degrees. Shit, you know, damn, look in the stadium, looks great, and okay, I'm gonna sign. Okay, February, I sign it. Go out there and meet the cau Oh fuck yeah, fucking.
It's that Eatris Elba hot Ones.
Oh shit, how crazy is it seeing the kids now how much bread they're making, and you were worrying about an alternator.
They don't even have to know that word, you know what I mean?
They just the place that it stood out the most for me because I always used to love my favorite transition in sports was the suits, because you would see every year, like our guys, you'd have the end of the season football banquet, and guys would go up there and they're Joseph a Bank, shit that they've got here, and they're piecing together something. We're early instagram flicking it up, thinking we all look sick. And then come spring you'd see those same guys now that are getting ready to be millionaires, who got front of all that money by their agent, wearing the nice stuff. When I saw Caleb Williams show up to the Heisman in the Gucci suit.
I was like, we have truly.
Arrived in the new era now where none of these guys are ever gonna have to be out here with like cubic Zarconium and all this other shit on here. Like we got guys in Designer in college football now it's crazy, man. But yeah, no, it's a different ball game, man. Like I always said, if I like, I don't even know what you do, because you.
Guys know most of these college towns.
I go back now and the number one thing that jumps out is like if I go out for a drink, like you get the bill and you're like, oh, that's right. Like money, Like money's not an issue here, Like nothing cost anything in South Bend, Indiana or in Tuscle Loose.
So like I'd have been part owner of like three bars in.
South Bend, Michigan, Club, Fever Mission Club, you know, easy anywhere. I'd still be turning keys on locks at the end of the day around there right now, just making sure it all worked like it would have It would have been a problem to have that kind of fun thing.
You'd be doing postgame interviews and like if you want to talk further, I'll be at Gojo's Mojo's cocktails.
Like I'd have been like Ritchie, Bobby and Talenting and nights here just pulling products out of nowhere.
Should we make fun of the Cowboys, gentlemen? Oh yeah, all right, yeah, Tyler's family. Do you see how Tyler's face lit up? It's like Christmas. It's one of my lives, my life's passions.
The Cowboys have parted ways with Mike McCarthy and now interviewing Kellen Moore, who was with the Cowboys and then left the Cowboys in order to get a job interview for the head coach of the Cowboys. You know, Jackson said he couldn't believe it happened, and I think all three of us looked at him and was like, what is.
Unbelievable about this? This is the this is the Dallas.
Cowboys feel Yeah, bro, I'm I mean, I think this move makes us. Makes me come to the conclusion that dionas was sure off the table, because I didn't know if that was coach speech with Dion saying you know, I'm happy at Colorado blah blah blah. But I think that that for sure means that Deon's off the table. But them going I don't. I don't know, Bro, they keep See. The whole thing about this is Jerry wants yes men, right, and if you're if you're you know, going back to the Kellen Well here, I think that speaks by him. I mean, that's there's a that's the reason why he's stuck with he stuck with so many mediaocre coaches for so long because he gets to push their buttons and they get they listen to what he says. Right, So yeah, so listen, bro. Like I said, I don't think the Cowboys are ever gonna be shipped until Jerry goes on to that great old Yonder Bro. And even then, even then his son Stephen, he's it feels like a Raiders situation where where the game had passed Al Davis by and it's like, okay, well Al might need to you know, we might need a new regime here. Then Mark came along and it's the same old Raiders. I feel like the Cowboys are gonna suffer that same fate.
Bro.
When Steven Jones came out with the when their takeaway from the season was, you know, we might be paying too many good players too much money here, having all of our cap allocated to these good players might not be the way I was like, if that is your takeaway after everything that we just went through, there might.
Be no help in this situation.
Man, There truly might be no help in it.
It is like, you know, this has been a year for big stories about ownership groups like we got to learn all about Brick Johnson, you know, with the with with the Jets, and you know there's obviously the Bears right now are interviewing forty different people for the head coaching position. And our own you know, still a family owned business. We're We're I'm a Lakers fan. Lakers are a mom and pop business that happens to be worth like two billion dollars or ten billion dollars or whatever. It is just this like fascinating dynamic. There's so many millions of people who these teams may as well.
Be like part of the government. It's like part of their.
Like if you live in Dallas, the cowboys are that's more important than who the mayor is or whatever. And it's just run by a guy and his kid. Like it's like it's a guy who's kind haven't figured it out, You're.
Fucked, you know. When I got to Pittsburgh.
I remember them saying, like I did my rookie training camp with the Steelers, and they're like, you're gonna run into Rooney's all over the city. Like it's just that family is this city in the same way they are that organization. So you're right, like it is a league that like if you got in on the ground floor, it's a constantly appreciating asset that does not punish you for going out here and being bad at your job ever, like you can do it, Like I think Mina pointed this out a while back, maybe at her podcast or on one of the shows, Like Jerry Jones gets all this credit for being a great business man, like you don't have to do anything to sell the NFL. You don't have to do anything to sell these football teams, Like Jerry's good at getting attention. But man, it's not like we act like we need to act like this is overly difficult. That's why people are going working hand over foot to try and just buy little pieces of this.
Now.
Jerry Jones's business innovation was selling a sponsorship to Pepsi. The business innovation was we could put someone's name on some shit and then but that was worth a hundred billion dollars to all these teams. Like that's how easy it is to like trip your way into nine figure income, like a fucking nuts, dude.
It is.
The crazy part is like no one seems to know their teammate less than the Dallas Cowboys, Like to your point about Calm Moore, like they had him in the building, like and with Mike McCarthy taking him all the way through that negotiating window.
You gotta have been the building for five years.
What did you not know about Mike McCarthy up until that point at the end.
What were you guys not talking about? Like it's every version of this.
That's why, like Michael Parsons, man strap in, this is going to be a ride for you. Like if you think for a minute that just because you have been good at your job, then all of a sudden, it's gonna go differently for you in Dallas. I just do not see a world where any part of what we know about this organization leads me to believe that they're just gonna pay him by the spring and have that handled.
And it's all gonna be hunky dory. Yeah, I never understood.
I never understood the Mike McCarthy hire to begin with, where the main gripe against Jason Garrett was conservative play caller who was underachieving with his quarterback. We got to get him out of here, and you go get the conservative play caller who was underachieving with Aaron Rodgers and thinks he's gonna fix it. They went from hard Ease to Carls Junior with that hire Dog.
It's the same shit. Like I've never understood it.
But like I said, it all comes down to Jerry wants guys who are gonna fall in line and follow, you know, his directors there, bro, Like I said that freyd Do is just never gonna be shipped until there's a regime change in ownership Dog, which is probably never gonna happen. It's gonna stand the Jones blood line forever.
Why would you sell it?
Yeah? Right? Yeah? Why?
Like what?
Right? Like?
Oh, I I could continue to print money, My kid could continue to print money, my grandkid could, Like, I don't care if people don't like me. Who gives at I'm flying a helicopter to practice. What do I care if people don't like me?
I say, did you see me on Landman? Look at how cool that was. Here's a nice distraction for you.
By the way he was that was incredible.
Yeah, he was in there with johamm Man, fucking you know, Bob and Weaven.
He did.
Yeah, he looked good. Uh okay.
My last question Gojo is, as we mentioned, you're the co host of Gojo and Golic with your dad. How did you get top billing on a show with your dad? What was that conversation?
Like, yeah, apparently we have the same agent. Apparently he just likes me better. Like I don't know if I'm nicer to him around the holidays or what. But it just, uh, I think by nature of being there first, because we were both at DraftKings and I had my own show and Dad was on.
A different show and we wanted to combine forces there.
But to your point, I have no idea how and it shows that even though I have done that, the number of times I go on other shows and they just instinctively like, oh yeah, Golik and Gojo from eight to ten am Eastern Monday through Friday, and I can't even correct him because.
I'm like, that's that's that's how it should be. Like this just this just happened.
I don't know how, I don't know why, and I'm not going to look a gift horse in the mouth. But no, no, if you, if anyone out there wants to call it goo Gojo, that's the way it should be, because we are two radio Hall of Fames to kneel right.
Now, gold can gojo and gojo and go Look they all they both flow well right, like I mean, the main reason John got top billing on Jakins and Jones Jenks and Jones just flows better than Jones and Jenkins, you know what I mean.
So Jelson Dickins is like a law fer, you know what I mean.
Jones and Jenkins are staring at me from the side of the highway, right.
Right, right, right, right right.
You've been in an accident injured by by five help right right right.
I love that.
All right, Well, thank you so much for hopping on.
Obviously, like we said, Gojo and go lick in that order only available everywhere, and we appreciate it again and we'll see you, super bro.
Thank you, appreciate appreciate it. Guys. I'm gonna go puke into a garbage can until Monday nights for this dame good luck man, see you guys.
He just he just said where he's in Louisiana right now because they're doing food like a like a food tour for some content.
Ship, Bro, I've never been more jealous of another human being in my life. What a damn a food tour.
They're doing a New Orleans he did, like a New Orleans like food tour for some stuff. They're gonna because the super bowls down there, so there is like content for the super Bowl or whatever. It's like, damn bro, that's sponsored by Thumbs. He was sponsored by Thumbs also, and he's paid to do this, Like, damn bro, that's something to sign up for.
Like, that's right, I'm doing the food tour New Orleans when I visit.
You know what I'm saying. The man gets paid to talk sports with his pops and go on food tours. What on what? Obviously we're on the outside looking at it.
He and his dad appear to have like the healthiest relationship of any two father and sons in sports also, which which is fucking great. All right, Uh, what should we talk about?
I don't know what happened with what's been going on?
So one lawsuit gone, I love that he gave just enough time for his fans to pretend that that was like a significant moment before he came and dropped an even dumber lawsuit for defamation for.
Promoting you know what I mean? Fuck?
You mean.
He studies rat battles for a living.
No, we need we need some reggae horns for every time we get a new drake losses newdra.
I feel.
I feel like, how the fuck did we let this nigga hold that position?
That's where we're at right now. For sure.
I'm like, bruh, you know what I'm saying.
We had the fucking we saw who he was, you know what I mean, But like, like, how did we let him be there? That a nigga that gets in a rap battle and nigga, it's mad that the dude did the same thing that he did to the dude better than him.
You said, the man beat us, beat his wife, and these kids weren't his you feel what I'm saying.
And he was like, you're a pedophile and niggas fucking dude fucking backflips to it in the club side.
Mother, you can't do that. That's not fair. I hate him, I do.
I like like at first, I was like, yo, like he's a bitch whatever. I feel like he's bad, Like he's bad for rap. He is bad for this fucking this cultural Sorry baby boys, baby boy's calling me right in the middle of.
Hey get the band all together. He was there for the last time. I feel like he's bad for.
Right right, it's night in the morning on January sixteenth, the time to talk about Drake.
Are you ready?
Can you say, nigga, it's time?
But I think he's I don't. I don't want my son.
I don't want my son listening to rap influenced by this nigga. I don't want my daughter listening to rapping flud by this weirdo ass nigga. You know what I'm saying, This is not the rap we grew up on. It's not the rap you say you fucking love. You know what I'm saying, A dude a defamation lawsuit because somebody did what people do in rap battles.
It's okay.
So so his his initial lawsuit, he with the drew from that right. The initial lawsuit was alleging that there was you know, shady juicing of streaming numbers by UMG.
He withdrew that, and you and.
G basically said, in legal lees, we accept your withdrawal, but our initial stance that these usations were bullshit. We're still standing on that. That was what they said in legally is on that. So then he goes to the defamation where his angle on the defamation ship is Okay, why did y'all let him talk about me like this?
Y'all if you promote this song that he was talking about me, why did you do your job?
Go ahead?
Yeah, yeah, he's he's not gonna win this. You are asking a record label why did they get behind a worldwide smash? How were you gonna win that?
Dog?
Like, I just don't know what the endgame here is with this, dude.
You're not gonna win this ship, and all you're doing is looking like the biggest fucking sucker in rap history.
No hyperbole, no no exaggeration. We said we're gonna call niggas bitches. If anybody's supposed to be a bitch, is this nigga? You look like the biggest bitch in the history of fucking rap. Dog Bro, I've never seen anything like this. I'm like, like, you said, what's the end game?
What is the purpose. Bro, we laughed at you with the first one. This is even more laughable.
You didn't you outsucker the most sucker shit we'd already seen.
You.
Feel me like, Bro, what is what? What is the purpose? And I feel like he's so desperate.
I'm taking everybody with you. Know what I'm saying he's so desperate is like, I don't give a fuck. I'm gona try to get something out of this ship. I want to I'm going after u n G. I'm going after this nigga. You just looked like a fucking lane. Bro, You're the only one losing in this situation. It's crazy, the man said.
The man said that that the release of Not Like Us had him fearing for his safety.
There is a part in that documentkay, what was that? What was that wording?
The man said that that the release of Not Like Us had him fearing for his safety. There is a part in that deposition where he's where they type out Kendrick Lamar stated wah wah wah wah, insinuating he was gonna punch straight repeatedly.
Oh you he really is?
You whole ass nigga, You whole ass nigga. You the Nigga talking about sliming niggas out in rap music. Now, I thought you was hard.
Fuck nigga. You know what I'm saying. You know what I'm saying, sticks and stones and break my ball's words and never hurt me.
Nigga.
You heard that shit? Goofy ass, Nigga. You know what I'm saying that Nigga.
Was hurt over wah wah wah wah wah wah had him waking up at him. But of the night and coach. You know what I'm saying, Nigga.
What the fuck is wrong with you? G?
Like something like dog and people are taking his money, like these lawyers are making so much money over him cooking himself.
Like but here's some pr folks, because the lawyers go ahead.
He was the rapper who, like part of his brand was this is rap that lawyers can listen to, you know what I mean? Like like I like it's like like a white collar type rap, right, And the lawyer over here laughing at you because this is the most preposterous lawsuit. Like UMG put a statement out saying you did the same shit we promoted your music, saying shit that wasn't true because that's what music is like. And the First Amendment in this country makes it such that you can't sue someone. You can't sue the newspaper for publishing something that wasn't true. You can't sue a book publisher for publishing a book that said something about you. Those are the cases that when you have to prove that there was malicious intent, that they knew they were lying, like not just they didn't know it was true or not, but that they knew they were lying, that they were trying like all this other shit, it's never gonna happen. And I feel like, to Tyler's point, it makes it even worse that you're suing UMG instead of Kendrick like I actually would. Yeah, I actually think it's worse because you're suing him for like how could you let him say that about me? Like you're not you're not even suing the we called you a pedophile doing someone for letting him do it.
I think that's I think that's a move to cover his ass because he's because when with him UMG instead of Kendrick, that is a move where he does not have to disprove the allegations lay it against him.
He just has to ask hug allegations.
And how does that sound, Tyler, Yeah, that sounds It sounds like the ship, which is all I don't want to go to Corna for proving I'm not a pedophile.
I wouldn't want to do that.
But yeah, I want to read that statement that UMG dropped because they cooked the fuck out his ass.
Okay, so the second best is the third best song in the RAT battle To be honest with you, so YUMEGI says, not only are these claims untrue, but the notion that we would seek to harm the reputation of any artists, let alone Drake, is illogical.
We have invested massively in his music, and our employees around the world have worked tirelessly for many years to help him achieve historic commercial and personal financial success. Throughout his career, Drake has in Okay, this is the paragraph right here, the lock in. Throughout his career, Drake has intentionally and successfully use UMG to distribute his music and poetry to engage in conventionally outrageous back and forth quotation marks. Here Rat battles to express his feelings about other artists. He now seeks to weaponize the legal process to silence an artist creative expression and to seek damages from UMG for distributing that artist's music. We have not and do not, engage in defamation against any individual. At the same time, we will vigorously defend this litigation to protect our people and our reputation, as well as any artists who may directly or indirectly become a frivolous litigation target for having done nothing more than write a song. So basically what UMG said there was, bro, why would we sabotage you If we fuck up your money, we fuck up our money. The fact is you've been running around like you pop and you got your ass smacked up, and now you're pulling this bullshit.
Get the fuck out of here.
That's exactly what you UMG said right there though, And good for them, because fuck this laws and fucking drink.
Fuck everything about this.
The foundation, like how we got how I got introduced in the rap? What's this ship I'm talking shit about? I'm better than you, nigga? You know what I'm saying? You this you that you like this is like this is such a huge part of rap that you are like this law suit like it's it's almost like the.
Lotty rap battles.
For a little bit.
You said this it's it's it's Nigga, like this is a huge part of the culture.
Ge like this is it nigga, and you like this is what I I.
Don't understand how he feels like this will benefit him in the long run as somebody that's supposed to make music. But I kind of feel like everything he's dropped has fucking been a and nobody gave us single fuck about nothing he's dropped at most.
Only people.
Only reason we know this shit exists cause niggas was laughing at it, and maybe he sees the shit is over and it's just pure desperation because the end goal doesn't make sense. If you're trying to be it could get get get the throne back. It's like the throne's gone. I'm not that nigga no more, but I'm taking the whole shit with me. Well, Nigga, we don't give a fuck about you enough. Take your ass on somewhere. Nigga, you look it fucking stupid. You can't take the whole shit, you know what I'm saying, The fuck we don't care about you like that.
Fuck nigga crazy. I just don't understand this.
Shit the chat said Miles said, losing the battle and suing the label in a contract year Drake fumbling the bag worse than Sam.
Darnald damn money off Hire had caught him. Aubrey Darnald in the chair.
Same Aubrey, I wonder what that contra go look like, because it can't. What's what's next is like, what's next after this?
Like?
What's next after doing all this?
Ship talking about Sam Donald or Drake?
I don't about Sam Donald nigga. I couldn't point him out in the lineup. I just know he's white. That's that's the white ass name, right, Cool, you know what I'm saying. That's about it. I know about HIMG you feel me, but Na, Like, I'm like, what what do you do after this? After all of this? If you just took the l you still probably could be with UMG, get get some big money.
Right.
The fact that you're going about it like this, going out like a hole, doing the dumbest lame as whack at whole ast, fuck shit bitches, shit I've ever seen in fucking rap.
You know what I'm saying? Where is your guard after this, you can't call yourself a rapper no more nigga? You feel me?
Yeah? Yeah, I think.
I think with a lot of rap fans, myself included, are gonna take away from this battle and from you know, the fallout from the battle.
Is this right? Like, I don't think we'll ever reach.
A consensus on what is the quote un quot best distrack in rap history?
I think that's subjective.
People have, you know, different tastes, different preferences, So we're never gonna like all the way aligne on what's the quote unquote best distrack in rap history. But with Not Like Us, there are some objective truths here, regardless of where you think it ranks in the pantheon of this tracks, that just you just can't deny about this. And the fact of the matter is, we never saw a Dish track that was this big of a hit. We never saw a this track that was this big of like a global cultural phenomenon. We never saw a dis track that owned the whole summer like Not like Us did. And with the way that we have seen Drake spiraling crash out, we are the way Strake just just losing his shit over this, we can say that we have never ever in rap history seen a dis track that this matter its opponent as thoroughly as not like us did to Drake like I think that's an indisputable fact at this point, that shit hit Drake so hard the nigga made a dish track for of liking it like talk, and with the way that that Drake is smiling right with every lawsuit, with all the ship that we're seeing with this dude, it just further emphasizes the stance that Kendrick took all along the point he was making, Bro, you are not like us, and this motherfucker is not like us.
Lawsuits, litigation, Bro, that ship is not hip hop.
That ship has never happened in rap Ever's your corny ass came along.
You got hit, punched in the face and ran to the police, ran to the law.
Nigga, you got hit in the face, Take them, take the air, move on. You got hit in the face and ran to the law.
That's the exact opposite of everything motherfucker said that. I just I just don't, I truly don't see what he can do within rap after this.
Try like him.
Lobbrary certified lawyer, boy up out and sue niggas. Boy, I don't know what to bring the suits to you.
You didn't run a distract nigga.
I've been waiting for Dak to say my nigga speaking of Drake, you know, shout on my motherucking on social media.
He puts streamers in the on the docket in the lawsuits.
Okay, okay, speak please plausa the means I thought niggas was just joking and.
It's legit.
He put not in it. He put our d C you know, shout out to the homie Mark Phillips. He put on what's the holy name broke Life Shock or something like that, because because that dude shot back at Drake and flamed his ass and he brought John.
He's not suing them. They're in the lawsuits.
Yeah, yeah, he is shooting suing streamers for making reaction videos to not like us. Well, not suing streamers, he is including them in the docket because he says them making reaction videos to not like us.
It was like boosting not like us in a in a in moral way. That's nasty.
Brof bro, after you get all that ship, we remember when family matters dropped and you d m. Todd Snott and said, stay on stream, family. You know, I got some ship that's gonna drop. And now you're putting this motherfucker in the court dock and saying he did you wrong. See this is why, this is why I didn't feel bathroom when he had that fall out with Lebron, because that's some Hollywood ship and drink with Hollywood. The motherfucker just as quick as as Lebron Hollywood, you know, so fuck that.
But maybe Broun saw the hole in him.
Yeah, I mean, you feel me like enough, And he got Savannah around up to and you know she did see that.
She saw that ship three and a half miles away.
You know what I'm saying.
She probably know that nigga through the screen. That's a bitch. Stay for around my family, nigga, you feel what I'm saying. And you saw she'd be looking at my all them images that show dog. So I ain't mad at it. Bro anyway you can get around separate yourself from a nigga like that.
It's crazy. Do that? Do that?
Please?
Do that? You know what I'm saying, Like, I just I.
Just I don't I have I have no idea what the purpose of any of this is This is.
The question I want to ask you, guys, and I know that your inclination is going to be to say I don't want to try and think like Drake, but I really would love for you to try to answer because this is how I process things, and I have truly gotten nowhere in the last twenty four hours. What is he thinking? Because any person a ten year old could tell you this is going to fuck you up in wrap, and a ten year old could tell you it's going to fuck you up in the courts too. You are more likely to get sued, to get countersued for a frivolous lawsuit and lose that that you are to win the lawsuit you're making. So what is like, what is he thinking?
What he is going to get sued for defamation by suing for defamation like you're trying to do, fay us actually by you know what I'm saying is that is that what you're.
Saying, you could easily get countersued by UMG for a frivolous lawsuit over this ship. No lawyer in a maryor should have filed that when the First Amendment exists. It is truly like you know, people could talk about the one defamation lawsuit you saw that was public was the Fox News lost that big lawsuit to the I forget the name of the company, the polling machine company whatever. This would this would not even be like that. This would be like if that company sued direct TV for putting Fox News on the air, it would get thrown out of court.
You know what I mean.
He's not even suing Kendrick for like you lied on me on purpose. You're suing someone for the structure of the music industry.
I think he's I think he thought by suing UMG, he could pretend and hide behind the fact that I'm trying to take up with a little guy or some shit, you know what I mean. I think he thought he if he sued, if he sued Kendrick, it would be like Nigga like, UMG is this would be bad. But it matchin if be sue Kendrick, like, there's absolutely no coming back from that, right, like I'm suing you.
For that's this ship.
There's no coming back from me.
But he thought he could.
He thought he could we seeing it.
That's what I'm trying to see, Like, what did he think before this was said in what did he think was gonna happen.
After the first ship?
After the first ship, and we laughed at him, and he goes through this is weirder. I honestly feel like he knows it's over. He did the dred, he did the I'm gonna go after Lebron shit. Niggas laugh at him, called him a hole again. He been called a hole for six months straight. Dog, he knows it's over with you feel.
What I'm saying.
So now I feel like he's just trying to take everything down that he can, like I'm taking you into it, but he he thinks he's more we don't care, and we don't care, and you probably nasty. So the music business is evil, you know what I'm saying. They probably nastiest shit. But the nigga you was step by step and step with the motherfuckers for ten years, nigga, fuck you. You know what I'm saying.
We don't care about you like that nigga go by.
You know what I'm saying.
I mean, I think the only way this halfway makes sense is if this if you think this this is perhaps a last ditch desperation. He just stopped Kendrick from performing not like us at the super Bowl, and and bro and and and and and if that's what you're doing, that that is a fool's Errand because if you think the NFL is gonna censor Kendrick on on the you think the NFL is gonna take a stance on morality here, you think the NFL is gonna do that? And Kenchick ain't coming off his square, you know what I'm saying. Kenchack ain't gonna back down. That ship is gonna get performed. And you just look like a sucker here if that was his angle there, But I don't know, there's no reading this, dude. It's just like I said, the biggest sucker move and wrap his three dogs.
Is he gonna do like the environmentalists do if they like chain themselves to the trees? Is he is Drake gonna like chain himself across the doors of the Superdome Like, no, you can't let it in.
That's not right.
I just I just this is the thing. This is what I think because I'm trying to like it doesn't none. None of this makes sense.
Right.
When somebody's desperate, they move in ways that don't make sense. The only definition, the only way to define to find what he's why he's doing this is because of desperation. He's just desperate. He's a nigga that was lame as fuck. We saw him and in front of some white women talking about something. These they're they're just ignorant. That's a nigga that ain't never got He's saying, shit, you doing, nigga, You got you gotta say sit like that.
The crack nigga.
You was a fuck nigga from the womb, bitch you came out of bitch. You know, you never had a fucking chance. And he knew it, and he sucked around and fell into the to be the coldest rapper in the world. You know, or or or perceived is that? And now he can't let that go. He can't let it go, So he's doing the dumbest shit because he's just desperate. What he you know what I'm saying, what made him him was being that nigga. He wasn't that nigga prior. He wasn't cold. He was that role exactly.
You know what I'm saying.
It's an insecure motherfucker that got to light of the world for ten fucking years now. You gotta deal with who the fuck you really are, nigga, to live with that for the next thirty forty years of your life, you know what I'm saying.
Wherever the fuck.
Yeah, look yourself in the mirror and say you was a bitch. That's the first thing. Admit to yourself, your issues. The foundation of who you are is whole shit. That's where you gotta start, nigga, and then you can move forward. But he just he did. He don't want to do that shit. So he's fighting, fighting, fighting, nigga. It's just he's just desperate. It's nasty. It's nasty. It's and like I said, I said, I kind of see where he came from with the lebron and all that, the other nigga fuck everything.
At this point. Fuck you know you were you were looking through the lens of that as you being a solid dude and assuming Drake was solid to and he is not.
Bro.
He just couldn't. He couldn't. I wasn't listening.
I don't expect like I'm gonna be solid with a nigga. That's a bitch, you know what I'm saying, Like you feel me like I'm gonna be solid because I want to be solid.
You feel me?
So like you we know what happened with uh with Bomani and Old Boy. What's what's all boy name?
Uh?
Uh uh?
These caramels, skin peanut butter those fucking yeah yeah that dude. We know what happened between them niggas, right, they've talked to It's been talked about. You feel me, but Bomani refused to shoot on him because of Bomani's fuck you feel me?
And that's how I feel, you know what I mean? With with Brian, you know.
What I mean, but like and I kind of was like, damn, he ain't do that. But fuck it.
This this is the This is the worst type of nigga, bro.
You know what I'm saying.
You know, got going back towards you said, John, I feel it feels like like Drake's downfall here that all started with not like us. It feels like some some Greek tragedy ship where you know, in Greek tragedies, the character's greatest strength turns into his tragic flaw. And we've discussed before how like Drake has always wanted to be all things to all people and it worked so well for him for so long, Like he wanted to be the king of the charts, making these monster singles, and he wanted to be a rappers rapper getting approval of all these other prestigious rappers. And where he fucked up is he wanted to be the dude who was known to get in the trenches and get busy with his battleship. And bro that ultimately proved to be his undoing here because buddy, you are not that guy.
You are a pop rapper.
He caught that body against Meek and got full of himself, right, and he switched his whole tune when it came to battling after that Meek battle, because with the Meek battle, he was not on this tough guy shit. He won that battle with means and social media interaction, and then he switched his whole shit up after that, right, Like he puffed his chest out and he wanted to show people that he was more thorough than pusha te and and and and and dudes like that who really got it out the mud. He got on this tough guy ship and he wanted to show people that he was more thorough than a dude from Virginia beach who made it out of drug dealing and a dude who made it out of confident and he got bodied both times decisively. Ship wasn't even closed though, and and and and and bro. It just it just all comes down to God that that's not you. You ain't get it off the mud. You're a child actor from the suburbs of Canada. That's who you are.
Big. You know what would have been best for him?
If he would have lost that battle with me mm hmm he lost, he would still be He would still be solid right now because he still know he's a lame ass nigga that you know what I'm saying.
Meek would not have known how to get everything out of it that Kendrick has.
Got so but like exactly, he couldn't have made not like us.
He wouldn't be you know what I'm saying, He wouldn't be.
He exactly he felt when he beat me. It made him lie to himself in the mirror. He was able to lie to himself and believe something that wasn't true. You know what I'm saying.
He should have looked down at the bro like that motherfucking brochure.
Yeah, like like like I said before bro we got to reevaluate that meet went on strength to schedule. I'm not rewriting history up like I said, I'm not like I said, hear me, yeah, yeah, hear me out, I am not rewriting history. He bodied me. That was a body bag. But from what we know now about me, he's not. He's not the brightest crayon in the in the crayon box, right like And like I said, I'm not rewriting history. That was a body but that's like a win against a team that was ranked number six and they finished the season, you know, five and eight and don't get invited in any bowl games.
That's what that win was. Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, I think the other thing to get to give Drake credit for what you y'all were talking about the length of the rain.
He was great at controlling the narrative, but also the narrative was controllable in the time that he grew up with the Internet and the early social media days. The early days of the Internet, you could point it at things, you could point it in a direction. You could write yourself a role as this type of a rapper and play it in I'm gonna go on this show because that's the way to get to this audience or whatever else. The Internet is a fucking tiger out of the cage at this point. Bro, there's no like, you know, between all the conspiracy theories and and everything else, Like you can't tweet two plus two is full and get universal agreement on that, right.
So I just think it's too big.
I mean, it's too big for our political leaders, just too big for everybody right now.
But you can't, like, you know, like Tyler was saying, you.
Can't just DM the right three people right now and the narrative goes your way in the way that it did for him for so long. And I think that he is in the same way our federal government and the global economic everyone's trying to figure out how to move in that and Drake, you know, study a little longer before moving.
And I just feel like like what Kendrick said was true, Like he aligned with people who were tough and said tough things next to them, and it made him believe he was actually tough.
Nigga.
You was just with a nigga that people didn't want to fight. They would have beat sho ass though, Nigga. You know what I'm saying, if it was just you, you feel what I'm saying. So you could say that tough shit with a nigga that nigga didn't want to fuck with, And that's I think what he and he started believing he was the guy. So when when Pussy came to them with ship, I've been talking.
Like this, niggas, let me get away with this nigga.
Bro, don't nobody believe that you know, a real One step in the room and he killing your ass and then Kendrick Bro, No, it's.
Over with Bro.
Like different level of stardom, same level, I would say, similar level to stardom.
I would say Kendrick at his best is equal to fucking Drake stardom.
Fuck the I would know. I would say Kendrick at his best is better than Drake started. I feel like a bigger star.
No, I think I'm just saying. I'm just saying.
I'm just saying, like, okay, what I mean, Kendrick has always been decisively number two as far as worldwide.
Okay, cool, cool, But I remember, we ain't talking about I ain't talking about I ain't talking about I'm just talking about who's done with Kendrick is done. When it came to like just a rap, he dropped the control rap verse set the whole game. It's a verse nigga, the verse with uh, with uh that that he dropped, throwing and throwing like I'm not, I'm not.
It's not Big three, it's Big me woof lit that motherfuck up?
You know what I'm saying. And this is like he tries he.
Canna do shit and drop a verse in the whole rap game is talking about this shit.
You feel me?
So I would say this.
Is masterful at creating moments for sure. I was, yes, So I would say.
He can garner attention and and take advantage of a moment better than anybody, you know what I'm saying. And I feel like this moment, Bro, you want to beget that nigga who was better at rapping than you, who is actually what the fuck he say he is, and who could get on stage with some real birds that can vouch for this ship in front of the world, and you just out here.
You know what I'm saying, Bro, You had no chance.
But what happened was you believe you was tough because you were saying tough shit next to tough people.
Yeah, and you lie to yourself.
I really think if he lost that Meg battle and he didn't take that left turn, he still be rapping, you know what I'm saying.
And that's exactly how he lost that battle. How Kendrick won this one on authenticity. Like you mentioned, he was hanging around tough guys thinking he wasna. No, that ain't you, Bro. You ain't get it out the money. You are a child actor from the suburbs of Canada. That's who you are. And I want to be clear, this isn't me saying that you got to come from the struggle to be like a certified Stan right right right, I don't subscribe to that. Some of my favorite rappers ever did not come from the struggle like Bro. I got a try Call Quest album cover hanging up behind me, and those are some middle class kids from Queens right, and they made some of my favorite rat music of all time. But you don't have to be a tough guy from the hood to be a legit rapper. What you have to be, though, is genuine. You have to be yourself and Drake is someone who has always struggled with authenticity. We all roll our eyes whenever he starts talking that mob tied shit.
Bro, that ain't you. But I tell you, I'll tell you what is you though?
This litigation lawsuit shit, that's who you really are here, it goes the suburban child actor from Canada. That's him. We knew you'd come out sooner or later, and that's who you really are though. You are not the dude who's in your wrap stucking all this tough guy mob shit.
You're a motherfucker who'll be like, oh you hurt my feelings. I'm suing. That's who you really are.
Dog.
I mean, Frank, you ran the mom that's what you did. Sinatra would at least beat a dude up for himself, you know what I mean?
Like Sinatra would at least stop a guy out off his own ship or.
At least just take the ass whoop. You know what I'm saying, Frank, But I feel you I'm not I'm saying this.
I'm just saying Frank, Frank brother, not Frank and respect to Frank.
I'm just saying, like, I feel like, if you really nigga niggas get their ass beat you take l's.
You know what I'm saying.
If you grew up in the way he grew up, and he never had to take l's like that. It's hard to you know, at this level doing that, but bro niggas take ls, eat them, keep moving, Bro understand when it's l just you know what I'm saying, Like he just can't accept it, you know what I mean, He's never had to deal with no shit for real.
It's just like off of what Tyler was saying. Even even while he was still the number one rapper in the world, it was still a running joke that he would adopt different.
Acts sense at change Sung Shang sung a rap That's what they called him though, you know, saying something for Mortal combat, who could switch into any character?
Yeah, use yo.
Yeah, so you know that was the best case version that was, like people were aware of that about him even while he was on top.
So some of attacks authenticity, it's kind of tough to be like which which which which? Which? Drake? Are we talking about here? Are we talking about actrobats Drake? Are we talking about you know, Caribbean twoes Drake? Are we talking about tough guy rat Drake? Yeah?
I mean, And also during his ring he got away with murder, he got away with murder. Bro, what he did to Drum, I still think it's the it's horrible whole ship. What he did to Drum was horrible.
What he did.
What what happened to his ghostwriter? What? Uh Quinn Miller? Quinn Miller? Fuck ship.
You know what I'm saying.
He's been abusing people like you know what I'm saying, his entire time at the top, nigga, you feel me taking advantage of people that had they uh you know, had their little box and he and and you know motherfuckers like this is a Drake stimulus packet, not package. No, that was keeping him popping. You know what I'm saying. That's what he was doing. You know what I mean, using a street cred, you know what I'm saying, just like what Kendrick said, using a you know what I'm saying, using a They got his shit cracking and bubbling, and he using their you know, momentum to keep himself up top.
You know what I'm saying.
And now you know, like we see who he really is, Bro, We see who he really is. It's it's the nigga's getting exactly what he deserves. You know what I mean congratulations to all of us.
You know what I mean. The universe is doing.
What the universe should do to a fuck nigga like him.
Bro, what's really funny about it is we really don't sit here and go like, oh, we have to talk about Drake every week because people are interested in that. It's just like he keeps forcing us to talk about it. I don't even like, do you know what I mean? Like, it's just it's like every week he wakes up and he's like, people aren't talking about me being an idiot right now?
Like it's like I don't have any like any more to say about him as a person truly, Like he's shown us who he is.
Now we're just like he's just adding more.
Feel like like he's just further stamping who he thought he was from the the shit he was doing, you know, two months ago, three months ago, you know what I mean. Yeah, I don't know if I said this before, but all the people who was talking about Drake, and I was like, you hate sometimes haters are right, nigga.
He just got that third eye over.
Nigga.
Hey, you know what I'm saying, Sometimes hate is just fact. I apologize to all the people that I said hate. He's like, nah, nigga, you was right.
I was wrong.
I was wrong.
You know, he was a bitch. It was a fact.
Year I hate continues to roll on strong sixteen days. Then all right, that's all we got to Thanks again to Gojo for hopping on. That was a lot of fun. Thanks to Drake for you know, being the gift that keep sound given. I guess, bro, I mean.
I don't want to talk about this nigga no more. I swear to God, Bro, you we.
All say that three tops.
I guarantee you he ain't done.
Like what else we got to say about this man?
What new material? I promise you he will.
I want him out of my life.
I want him out of my life.
I feel like, you know, you know how when you get a break up you know what I'm saying, and you really over it, you know, And he's just like I just you know, I just would rather not.
That's how I feel. I just don't even want to like, I'm tired.
Of this nigga. I want him away. I want him away. I don't want to talk about his nigga no more. Bro, what's what we have to say about this?
Nothing? Gee? All right, Well, we'll be.
Back Sunday night talking NFL playoffs and Drake. So we do have a lead candidate for Nookie out of the Week on Sunday nights.
Oh my god, that's unanimous.
Yeah, thanks again to go Joe Withe else, Bye bye.
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