The Jason Smith Show with Mike HarmonPete Rose will 100% get in the Hall of Fame in the next few years. MLB (and all sports) are entwined with legalized gambling. There are ads during games. The votes will fall his way b/c of how MLB is now. Pete did his time. Should've been sooner. Like when he was alive.
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Uh.
He was nervous before the.
Game, but then he talked about how the first big league game he ever went to Huey Jennings at a home run of the ninth and kid gleats and pitched a no hitter. Yeah, it's a very big deal. So you will get only the money you deserve. So I thought I'd run many more Eight Men Out lines than I would. And it's such a it's such a forgotten movie because it's you know, it's look, it deals with the Black Sox scandal. Obviously Field of Dreams does as well, but that's more about someone's you know, Kevin Costner's life spoiler alert. And and how the you know, shoeless Joe Jackson plays into what is a different story. Eight Man Out is specifically about, you know, the White Sox throwing the World Series in nineteen nine, Chicago politics, Chicago. Yeah, And when I told my daughter, like we finally was, she finally watched it, like a few months if I said, this is thing for you and I because I've seen this movie so many times. She goes, are you gonna say every line in the movie? And I said, do you want me to or not? No? She goes, who's it? I said, okay, so okay, who would you know? I said, okay, so it's Michael Rooker and yeah, John Cusack and dB Sweeney and and uh David Straight. Then she's like, whoa what all of these people were in this movie? Yeah, it's like three you didn't have to you know, other movies you would have straight there and from from allege of their own and from the firm. She knows Charlie Sheen, Uh, you know she knows John Cusack from John cus Like, she was, yeah, oh yeah, don't forget Michael Lerner too, you know him, remember him from this movie and all the different watch.
So she knows Mahoney Yeah, oh yeah.
Well she knew she knew John Mahoney from uh from say anything, I said, John, all of these people. I said, yes, it's a phenomenal movie. She's like, all right, let's watch. And I'm like, yeah, let's go. So he watched eight Men Out? No, Like, what did you think that?
She was, Wow, I can't believe it was that easy.
To fix the World series. Don't forget Gordon clap NYPD Blue. Yeah she didn't know Gordon clap I said, yeah, yeah, your teacher about simple wits. Soon enough, I said, this is Metavoyd. He would walk a hey and the and the what what about? Uh?
What about?
I said he was dating Donna Aben Dondo. You know a different thing.
People were went from Sesame Street. He was mister Noodle. Yeah, yeah, oh, mister one of the mister noodles.
There you go.
Yeah, it's got something forever. You remember Swede? He was from Diehard too.
She goes, yeah, he was one of the henchmen.
And yeah, stud remember when we saw him at the at the at the when when we were getting our Christmas tree and we saw the guy Don Harvey who played goes, Oh, yeah, that's right.
I said, yeah, that's him, that's Swede.
And you got all starstruck and acted all weird. Yeah, Don Harvey, that's great.
Though.
I can't get my daughters anywhere near a television with this time. I could put one hundred bucks on top of a bucket of popcorn and they're not sitting there for ten minutes.
And the thing is no chance.
I know, Don Harvey saw me and when I gave him that double tank, he was like, I to go eight men out or die Hard too. I was gonna say both, but eight men out especially, I said, Sweet is a hard guy. Like you know, this is mind going, okay, say eight men out or die Hard too?
Well, one of those, I don't know.
He's probably still getting residual checks now and again from the streaming service Away and they're not gonna be.
Huge, no, no, And he was in the next to last season A better Call Saul.
Yeah.
But all of that to say, I mean getting recognized thirty.
Years out movie, Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I'd like to think I've come to grips with that, and I'm happy that you recognize. Now if I've had a long career and you're gonna run lines.
Oh yeah, dude, I'm fifty five other credit since then?
Can we do that scene of you and Chick in the bathroom when you figure out the fix and you tell him Freddy's in, even though Swede he's not even gonna play, and you do with your hair and you go, Chick, he's in. He's in What's Next? And here comes Christopher Lloyd. Oh yeah, Christopher Lloyd. Yeah. Yeah, my god, Doc Brown, I said yes. And do you remember the guy Billiam harsh Goes, Yeah, yeah, he was the guy that stole the car and Ferris Bueller.
Yes, this is the cast of this movie.
She was.
So it's a cast of legends. I mean they're everywhere.
There's no question about it. Burns strictly bench material. I won a few games, you lost a few more. But you know a couple of things about this. You know, first of all, why do we get this today? Why is suddenly Pete Rose and Joe Jackson and the other Black Sox eligible for the Hall of Fame. You look down third base. Next year, Buck Weavers gonna be playing his butt off. And it's pretty simple because it is no coincidence that a month ago President Trump very vocally said, hey, I think you had a meeting talk to Rob Manfred. I think Pete Rose should be reinstated into Major League baseball. And here we are a month later where Pete Rose is reinstated in Major League Baseball. And we've talked about this, and we got into this a bit with the Eagles decision to go to the White House, where every sport knows, Now if something happens and you appear to be at odds with the White House. It's going to be a thing, right, It's just it's going to be something public and it's going to come up. And I'm sure the Eagles thought, you know what, we're gonna go because we don't want it to be if we don't want this to be a storyline where the White House is upset with us for not going and suddenly we have to deal with publicity fall out of this. We're gonna go. If you want to come, great, If you don't want to come, don't come. Right, people have not come before to the White House that you People didn't go to see Biden, people didn't go to see Obama, people didn't go to see Bush. It happens, right, So just but we're gonna go to stay away from this. And I'm sure part of that with what Rob Manford is well, okay, this is a thing, and we're probably thinking about reinstating him anyway because the lifetime ban is over it at the time of his death, and you know, and look, and I don't know I'm kind of projecting now, but obviously with where we sit with with people being able to stay in the country and not a lot of players coming to the United States, and the Dominican Republican and other countries want to make sure these players are allowed to play and stay and that goes well. And I'm sure that Rob Manford decided, Okay, it's not worth it to get into it. I don't want this to become a thing where I don't reinstate Pete Rose. And now it becomes a thing at the Daily Press, Brie thing or someone talking because look, Trump went in on Alcatraz, became a three day story. We're going to reopen Alcatraz because he probably saw that TV show on local TV last week, and no, we're gonna reopen Alcatraz to do it. So I'm sure that's where that's where sports groups and sports leagues sitting now is like, Okay, everything can get so hyper politicized. We're just gonna stay out of it. And so here is. For years, it was never Pete Rose canking in, Pete Rose canking in, chewless Joe Jackson canking in. And now if you want to say, well, Pete Rose just passed away. Uh Sholes Joe died a long time ago. All the Black Saws players died. Well, okay, yeah he's I don't think he's in Syracuse hanging out with Jim Morrison. But all these Black Sox players died a long time ago, right, So you can't sit here and say, well, Pete Rose, no, no, Black Socks players were dead for a long time. You could have done this if you wanted to, but you didn't. And so now you're doing it. There's no coincidence that here comes a little nudge from President Trump on it, and now here a month later, here are these players who are reinstated.
Now we go to the team thing when we talked about it with the Eagles, is that you're going to have people that vote on both sides of the aisles as part of your organization in that locker room, in the front offices, et cetera, so blanket decisions, and that probably will ruffle some feathers behind the scenes. Likewise, it's an institution. It's a historical thing to where you know, I didn't have a lot of teams that said, hey, we're not going to do these things, and not that there isn't precedence for individuals, and certainly in the past with this presidency as well. And you know, it becomes public fodder.
Now.
The thing is, there's a million stories that flow every day, so it's usually pretty quickly forgotten something like this. But to your point, when you're talking about the globalization of sports and the amount of money, personnel, talent being called from around the globe, Yeah, it's certainly something to that. And I'm sure for Rob Manford, like, it's not like he took more than three seconds to write the statement that he did.
It was like a.
Clearly up in comment that he said to someone, Yeah, clean that up.
Oh no, they put it out verbatim. How I felt about that?
Oh man, you were supposed to put some flowery language in there.
What the hell are you say?
But all of that say, yeah, I mean's the all right, what's the greater good and greater statement being made if we take a certain course of action in this case. I don't know that I've heard a lot of clamoring for Joe Jackson or the Black Sox players forever.
Right.
As we talked with John Paul Morosi a little earlier in the show, it's a museum, so people are represented for feats, for streaks, for their prominence in different statistical categories. Whether it's Pete Rose's hits or you know, Barry Bond's MVPs, et cetera. Like they're represented, but there's obviously a difference. And the league, or I should say, the voters, have done an interesting job through the years picking and choosing how they they had unicate those terms. But we'll leave them for a separate time. You know, Barry and Roger and Sammy and all of those guys versus some of those others that have walked into the Hall of Fame, and you will nod and wink and you know exactly what I'm talking about there. But for these purposes, yeah, I mean, it's it's indelicate the way the commissioner put out the statement, but not altogether wrong. Right in terms of all right, let's reevaluate this.
Say, a lifetime ban ends on pond the death of the player, and that's all you have to say, Okay, all right, And you can give a nod to the office of the President without you know, really going out of your way to say, you know, President Trump, President Trump, I mean, he's going to take the credit for it, but you can say, hey, you know, we we re examined it. Right, that was a nudge and we reconvened. Whatever, take whatever tax you need to again a better statement than what you did, because I don't don't think anybody rationally thinking this thing out would disagree with the all right, it was a lifetime band bit cold, bit callous is related to Hey, that was some It's like when Ron Sandel got into the Hall of Fame.
The guy was pleading to be.
In the Hall of Fame for years, then he dies and all of a sudden, likeh it goes to the committee. Yeah, that guy certainly was a Hall of Fame, There's no question about it. That's the worst you can do. But Pete Rose's family, extended family and friends and fans all get to celebrate that, perhaps eventually if he has voted in. Because there is that pesky little part of it that still needs to come.
Well, we'll get to the voting part of it coming up next, because I think a one both of these guys, I mean Pete Rose and Shuless Joe Jackson are getting in the Hall of Fame. But a little bit different reason why we got that end the big story out of the NBA today that I can't believe, and we had stupid being a theme earlier last year with Rob Manford. I can't believe people are actually saying this when it comes to the draft lottery twenty four hours later. That's next right here, Jason and Mike Fox Sports Radio. From searching online to asking your friends and family, there are lots of ways to look for jobs, but what if you had one team that could help you find the right role. That's where Express Employment Professionals comes in. Your local Express Employment Professionals office is your one connection to endless job opportunities. With just one application, they can help you find a job at a company that fits your needs. Visit Expresspros dot com and as always, Express never charges job seekers a fee. Express knows when companies are hiring, offers benefits and competitive pay, and in just one interview, they're prepared to present you to multiple companies that fit your needs. Go to Expresspros dot com to get started, find your nearest location, and discover for yourself what it's like to have support in your job search. You can also start your job search through the Express Jobs app. Download it today to search jobs, apply and contact your local Express team. That's Expresspros dot Com to start your job search today.
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Talk a lot about retirements here in sports and hanging them up and leaving quitters. How about an unretirement. To tell you about an unretirement? He's this more AI he has been retteling. Maybe he has been retired since twenty seventeen. Patrick Cuting after Patrick Hey, he was, hey, hey, can solve.
Your big man problem?
Ewling and Rick Patino hugging after the Knicks win.
Lesson.
I was once at the urinal with Patrick Ewing. Were you well, wow, there were no dividers?
Oh wow? How do you think that one? You were intimidated?
Did he did he tap you on the head and say, hey, how you doing?
Nice to meet you? Just stop that oll when he was done eating peanuts out of the uine.
Uh so, And again one of the most decorated careers you will ever see.
Phil ja not Phil Jackson.
Daniel day Lewis coming out of retirement, not that announced earlier today he is going to be acting in his son's movie, So he is ending a seven well eight year retirement from acting coming out to act right here.
How great would this be those you're on the set and you've you've agreed just sight unseen. Dad, I've got this opportunity. I'm going to drink this picture. I'd love you to fill this role. You're Daniel day Lewis, you walked away. You're a method actor of the highest degree. And then you get the material and you realize after about three pages it's no good or you're totally just gonna say, well, I'm doing this out go out of my own you know, goodness of my heart from my son, He's going.
To make this the greatest thing of all time.
A bloody bowling pin at the beginning of the first scene of This Man.
Sounds like an out the script Homer wrote in The Simpsons when Ron Howard says it's about a it's about a robot that goes back in time for some reason, and his best friend's a talking pie.
All right.
Legitimately it's one of those yeah, Dad, Dad, will you do this?
Sure?
And then he's in there and he's like I don't even know how to get into this character. And and the movie is called Milkshake.
No it's not.
It's called anemone. I live in an m and live action Marlin. Yeah, that's what it is. It's actually coming back. I'm writing a live action version of Finding. We're gonna use real fish to Uh let's my dad has.
Been working on his underwater breathing for a long time.
Uh so, welcome back to acting, Daniel. That's fantastic, and.
Starts to drink milkshake. I drink your milk. I'm not freaking at all.
The Boys to the Arm one of the greatest musical remixes that we ever. You think every time he goes out to dinner wherever he's at, someone buys him a milkshake and then he comes over and says, I want to drink your milkshas.
Who he is? Now?
I don't spend a lot of time on gossip sites, but I got a question. How often Daniel day Lewis has been seen in public? That's not many people know exactly who he is.
I think a lot of people a lot sure.
I think he looks like just a gangly what is he? Six feet tall? He can hide pretty well. Yeah, yeah, but I think we got Jack Nicholson.
He can't.
He's not walking around with the top hat like he's the butcher. He pay attention to me now, thanks Tom Cruise. These guys can't go out Lewis, I'm sure can go out without getting.
He's not walking around with a knife tapping on a glass eye. I mean, it's not what he's doing.
I think he lives in Europe, right, he's from He's from England, so I'm sure when he goes out and everybody knows who he is in England, I'm sure I'm talking about oh here, Yeah no, I don't think. I don't think he's here. I don't think he doesn't live.
But even overseas, I don't. I think they'd leave a lot of come on.
I won three Award Academy Awards for Best Actor. I think everybody knows who he is. I'm pretty sure I think he can blend in. He's a kam Alien. You see what he does with his work. He becomes that guy. If he was walking around like Lincoln. You just said, there's the crazy man dressed like Lincoln. He stole that oscar from Tom Cruise in nineteen eighty nine. He's a left foot and Tom Cruise was born in the fourth of July. But then he did Cocktail the same year. It's probably why he didn't win.
Uh so he got the hippy hippie shake.
I was going to vote for you, but then I saw Cocktail and I said, wow.
Jason, I would never know who that was if he walked by me. Who Tom Cruise, Well, no, I know Cruise.
Oh okay, you did. Daniel Dan Lewis, I have no idea. Have you seen any of his movies Alsyser goes, you know, the little Guy, the little Guy? Yeah, you know a little guy.
See his movies?
Yeah, okay, you would know. I think you would have seen.
There Will be Blood at least fifty times he was. Yeah, you would know.
Daniel way Lewis, Yeah, absolutely you will.
If he was dressed like Bill the Butcher, maybe no, but that's what I mean.
Like if he's in full regalia that dread that guy or Lincoln, Hey it's Abraham Lincoln like, but he immerses himself.
So like if he's just walking around and he's now got his members only jacket, uh, some cavalry, he's just wandering in the streets.
Yeah, so ri ip to anybody putting out a film the same year, is this one coming out?
Yeah, you're not gonna win interesting credibility for his son. Sorry, sorry, Glenn has already been prenominated for an oscar.
You're not gonna win for Twisters, Glenn pal I'm sorry, but but good luck on the Chad Powers thing. So I actually just started watching Twisters with my younger daughter.
Neither of us have ever seen it, and.
There was a scene very early in the movie where he does one of those long stare, you know, looking looking back, and it just goes on, Oh yeah, It's like, really, when do you get to the range decided you had to have that go an extra one, two three, or it's like with that smirk on his face and like come ons, wait you'll see the rain, Wait till the rain shot that goes forever. Although you know they have a release date now for Chad Powers.
Yeah, it's a new ted last up. I'm excited. Now.
We talked about something stupid a little while ago, which whitch Time, which was Rob Manford and his statement about hey, when you're dead, you're no longer a threat to baseball. We can reinstate. You sure something just as stupid has been talked about a lot the last twenty four hours when it comes to the draft lottery. Now, the draft lottery last night and the Mavericks win. Remember I told you Friday night, I don't care what the mathematic odds are. The MAVs, the Sixers, or the Bulls are winning the draft lottery. Zion in New Orleans has been a disaster. You know, Wemby and san Antonio was good, but now he's hurt. Hopefully he can come back. Prayers up for him. But yeah, I don't think Cooper Flagg, the latest, you know, the third generational talent in the last eight years, is going to start his NBA career somewhere other than a big market heritage team. Then oh, here's the Mavericks, the latest team to lose their superstar because of the Nico Harrison trade. They get to reply with Cooper flag right now. But this is not saying that the lottery is fixed or the lottery is not because you're chance. I was stunned last night. We had Mark Stein on and you asked him about the lottery and this, and I said, you know, I've known Mark Stein for a long time. He's going to say, look, guys, the fixing of the draft lottery. You're talking about something, And instead he said, I don't know how Adam Silver is going to talk about this and explain it away, because you see, it's been happened so many times now, where players have been, where teams have been able to replace stars, they've all the big stars have gone to big markets.
It's whoa, whoa, whoa.
But it's not about if you believe it's fixed or if you don't believe it's fixed. What I want to focus on is the amount of times I have seen people say today you just want to throw out there you know I was in the room, or I've been there and I've seen it. There's no way the lottery. I've been there, the lottery is not fixed. And I want to say, you just want to say you were there, because to say to say that is just stupid, because what you're saying is, oh, when I was there, when all the people were there watching the draft lottery, nothing was fixed. Oh, Because that's when they're gonna fix it, when reporters are there and when people are there watching seeing every move you make when you're pulling the the ping pong balls out and you figure out who gets what picked that.
They're not gonna fix it in front of you.
If they're gonna fix it, it would be before they do anything public with you. There'd be ways for that time. The number of peoples that I was in the room, you can't fix it. Oh right, right, So because they didn't do it right in front of you, it means that's just dumb, that's just absolutely dumb.
Eye.
Well, they would fix it in front, yes, because that's how when you want to fix something, you do it in front of as many people as possible. Oh, you know, I thought we could fix this, my boy. There's a lot of people here. Can can what do you guys like to kind of distract them, like with the magic trick or something, or get them to watch the game on TV so I can fix the ping pong balls behind you? I mean, make sure they don't turn around?
Can you do it?
Just because I really gotta I gotta wait these ping pong balls down so they come up for the Dallas Mavericks like that. I mean, really, is that how it's done? Is that how you think it's done?
Oh?
I'm in the room and I've done Oh okay, right, right, right, because that's exactly when they're gonna fix it, Like that's just stupid.
Yeah, the categorical dismissiveness.
Of it all is the problem I have with it right Where there's there's too much this, there's too much of that. Are they subject to the same rules as the California State lottery or super Lotto or whatever we're doing when we watch the drug No, I don't know.
But all of it's to say that it's just happened way too frequently since the Patrick Ewing envelope. And I know we've changed the process.
They've changed the weighting, no pun intended, They've changed the weighting of how teams are given their their chances. Right, it's now three teams with a fourteen percent shot. All of that to say, am I gonna come here and immediately just pound the table saying that it's that it's all rigged? I just saying that I'd love a great explanation from the commissioner. And that's what I asked Mark Stein of You know, you don't have just one piece of data, right. This is not an outlier with Cooper Flag. It happened with Derrick rose one point eight percent chance. It happened with Lebron going to Cleveland. It happened the year after Lebron left Cleveland that the Cleveland gets the number one pick. It happened with Zion, they had a six percent shot after Anthony Davis got traded. There's just so many circumstances where it's like, wow, that seems way too convenient of a fix for the team that lost said superstar to just be able to just go I don't know, like the math on it just says, all right, this is a problem.
You know, you start putting the calculation of it together to try to allay the fears, and in the end, if it's good for business, keep it going.
Everybody works right for the Mavericks.
Something we talked about after the trade of Luca, where all the estimates of the losses from television deals and and all of the overseas and endorsement opportunities and overseas signage opportunities and carriage rights and all of that stuff. Well, Cooper Flagg coming to Dallas in such a huge metroplex fixes a lot of those financial ills right there. Oh, and they still get the hundred million dollar cash savings off of the Luca deal, but for all their other rights where it looked like, wow, they're taking a bath off this in the back end. So it's really foolhardy even if you didn't like how well or not conditioned he was in terms of getting through the end of a season. But for people to just say while I was in the room, like there's a there's a million ways. I mean we've all watched enough sleight of hand and go back to the sting, go through now you see me go through any of the Hey, magician's secrets exposed on Fox.
I mean you've seen a.
Million different ways that you know slight a hand can have you thinking you saw something when you didn't. Again for the NBA dangerous business. Uh, but just saying hey, I was in the room and nothing funny happens.
Like you don't know it didn't or didn't. Okay, great because you're all because they didn't do it right in front of you. Oh okay, that makes it. No, that's just dumb. Uh. Hey, we got a big Hall of Fame discussion come in your way in about ninety seconds. But first Chris Burphett has what's trending in the Wide World of Sports and night CP What do you got for us?
Well, we let's start with the NBA. Nikola Jokic had forty four points. Wasn't enough. The Thunder claim the lead and the nugget and defeat the Nuggets one twelve to one oh five. They take a three to two series lead. Donovan Mitchell was in the line for the Cavaliers. Wasn't enough there either. The Pacers close out that series with a one fourteen to one oh five victory. The Dallas Stars and the Ice defeat the Winnipeg Jets three to one to take a three to one series lead, coming off of mkhil Granlin hat trick in that game four walk off. In baseball on Tuesday Night, Fernando Tattis Junior hits a walk off home run for the Padres six or four over the Angels. Howve Baia's three run home run in the eleventh inning Tiger's defeat the Red Sox ten to nine. JP Crawford hits a RBI walkoff for the Mariners to defeat the Yankees two to one, and Isaac Peretz had a walk off home run single home run as the Astors defeat the Royals to to one. The Athletics hit five home runs and had eighteen hits to just destroy the Los Angeles Dodgers eleven to one. However, some interesting news on the way. As Dodgers manager on Tuesday, Dave Roberts announced Clayton Kershaw would make his season debut on Saturday against the La Angels. Mike and Jason, back to you. Thank you very much, thanks for everything tonight, Thanks.
Jarden Man, have a great night. So we talked about this last a few minutes ago about the situation involving Pete Rose and Truless Joe Jackson, who are now eligible for the Hall of Fame being reinstated by Major League Baseball.
I'm pretty sure Jason, I'm pretty sure he has shoes by now.
Uh yeah, Well he's been dead since the seventies, so I'm sure they've enough to try to get a pair somewhere. Uh So i'd stare at till the IGO's blonde. It's good for my bat and ee uh now, I'm just gonna get all the eight men outlines in in the last hour. So we've had a couple of different discussions about them and now that they are both reinstated and eligible for the Hall of Fame? Are they going to get in? And I am one hundred percent that they will both get into the Hall of Fame because it's the Veterans Committee that's going to vote on it. We talked with John Paul Morosi, who joined us earlier in the show, and he said, look, a lot of the people on the Veterans Committee are people that have played with Pete Rose in the seventies. So that's going to happen now. The first time he's eligible, which is going to be about a year and a half from now, I can see the Veterans Committee not voting for him, just as a I'm going to take a stance and show you that I disagree with what they did that neither of the you know, they shouldn't have bet on baseball, they shouldn't have thrown the World Series. I'm going to take a stance against that. But then they're gonna let him in because really, you know, Pete Rose and Shoeless Joe Jackson, all these guys, they did their time right, They did their time with a lifetime ban from Major League Baseball, and at that point, it's okay, they're going to get in. Pete did his time, right, Pete, When you talk throwing the World Series is one thing, Pete Rose, gambling on baseball not quite that, right, So for Pete it should be an easier discussion because it was. Hey, Pete was gambling when there were rules saying you couldn't gamble. But especially now that Major League Baseball and the NFL, in the NBA all professional sports league, they're all in bed with gambling. There's ads for gambling in games, right, they tell you here, here's where to go, here, here's how to gamble. Here, here's our advice for this game that you have play by play guys reading gambling ads. Because now of professional sports relationship with gambling, that line has been blurred so much that even players who haven't played in a long time still understand where the game is at. Well, okay, I get that now that there's gambling is there and if you run a foul of rules with gambling in sports now you get a year suspension. So Pete Rose, if it happened now, he probably would have gotten a year suspension. Right, That's what players get when they gamble illegally. Right, you gamble on games, I'm supposed to gamble from a place you're not supposed to, you get a year. Pete would have gotten a year, right and that or would have gotten most of He would have gotten the rest of the year when it was figured out, and it would have been another year after that that would have been Pete Rose's fate. But then he would have been able to manage again, would be able to get back in the game. So for those two reasons, I see, it's one hundred percent that they're both getting it. Now. Did Eddie see Cotton Buck Weaver have the careers to get to the Hall of Fame? To that you can debate that these guys were all guys that didn't play, you know, much past their age of thirty. So do they have the nap felch? Did he have the numbers? I've been I've thrown three games, only been paid for one, Like, did they have the careers to get in the Hall of Fame? Probably not, But you know, maybe Eddie c Cott did a little bit, but shootless, Joe Jackson clearly one of the best players to ever play the game. Like I see, he and Pete Rose are both going to get in uh and and within the next three years.
Both of them will get in the Hall of Fame.
Yeah, I have no doubt that that's where we end up in the in this process, just a matter of when. I think it would be interesting, since they.
Ever were officially on the ballot, if they were to have to go through the other process right where you're talking about cross generational voters. You know, with our esteemed colleague Rob Parker is one of those guys to have that kind of discussion. But we've certainly seen Veterans Committee and look, my, my guy Harold Bain's benefited from it, like like who's sitting on that panel and making the decision and making the arguments foreign against as it goes through.
But again, you know, you've had.
This long standing process and you'll never reconcile fully like because you can't tell me that all of a sudden Pete Rose became a manager and suddenly decided that day he was gonna start betting on baseball, all right, That that whole part of the sequencing is always, I don't know, has been fairly poorly reported and discussed throughout the ages or how he managed for that matter, ginning to inning. But that's neither here nor there at this point, you still look at forty two to fifty six, You still look at Joe Jackson and the numbers put up that will get him into the Hall. Whatever they put on the plaque, that'll be an interesting secondary part of the process if how much of a nod to those circumstances are there. But certainly for the Hall of Fame when we argue every year, it's like, wow, we need another star in while all those other guys from that nineties era.
The greatest era are sidelined. Yeah you need star power.
Yeah, that'll that'll bring people to Cooper's down to discuss, debate and so celebrate those.
Careers exit out about a Fresco exit swalling Dome. Jason Smith Mike Harmon live from the Fox Sports Radio series Just wait three more years and you'll see them get in the Hall of Fame. Coming up next, boy, do we have a couple of big hot takes coming off another big night in the NBA coming your way next right here, Jason and Mike Fox Sports Radio.
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Having lunch today and uh, where was that?
Where is eton luncheon? Where is that having lunch today? McDonald's.
No, no, no, no, no, no mobile McDonald No, I wish mobile.
No where.
Can we get some money together and franchise those out?
Can we get a couple of those mobile McDonald's.
Yeah, I think we have to pay the Saudi's if we do that much, O, that's gonna be tough.
Yeah, we're gonna give a a plane in return, or or or what if the plane is the mole McDonald's.
Oh wow, how about that?
Get on a plane? Have McDonald's McDonald's on a plane. Oh my god, I forget snakes. I'll meet McDonald's on a plane. Oh yeah, there you go say that like you haven't so.
Uh we're man McDonald's on a plane McDonald's.
I'm sure I've done that. I'm sure, but I can't believe I would have not been done eating it before I even buckled in, Like I'm done.
I ate the quarter pounder. It's all done, it's all, it's all finished. I had it all, but then you had the second one.
Uh, I'm trying to pound was the appetizer I'm have a quarter pound while I'm deciding what I want to eat.
No, I'm just gonna eat that, and I forget.
I'm trying to think because I was like, oh my goodness, because I thought I looked around to see if any of you guys here, especially Tysher, because I was, uh, Pam and I were at lunch and I got a metal buck where I was eating lunch today anyway, wherever we were, they played some band does this like heavy metal version of Running Up that Hill? And they played it, and I'm going, this is running up that It's like a heavy metal version. I don't want to hear this stuff. And I felt embarrassed because like I was kind of into it in the very beginning.
It sounds good.
I'm like, wait, these lyrics sound familiar.
Wait, this is that song.
I can't stand Oh, man, I don't believe that. I hate when people do that. And I was I was like, oh my goodness, I can't believe that. Okay, great, now I got running up the heill. It's a heavy metal version run up the Help?
Jason, where'd you eat?
I wish I could remember. Now I'm trying to think what did I have? I had chicken I had, uh.
Was delicious chicken? Oh it was.
It was at a gastro pub near where we live, and they were playing like they play rock songs, and I've they played the song. I'm like, oh man, I gotta listen to this. And actually the song is not bad, all right better the other version of Tyser plays everything.
I just like the term gastro. It's Jason, I remember where you ate? Jason is pretty good. Yeah, this is a song.
This is a song.
Who is this? That would be Kate Bush. It's not Kate Busch. This is Kate without the Bush.
It sounds like, uh, it sounds like it's like simple plan and this is Kate no Bush.
I'm addicted to you hard. Who is that? That's Kate no Bush?
Kay?
Okay, very good? Are you're not gonna tell me? All right? That's fine. That's funny, guys. But that was the song.
That was a song right there that it tormented you because you felt the beat and your pretty.
Good and I'm like, yeah, but but I can't stand the song.
It's no resolve, No resolve, okay, and TJ definitely no resolve for Jason Smith, who had to listen to that song while they played.
It, Did it make it like your lunch less? No? It it made me like myself less. Where'd you eat lunch?
A place called Gulp was where it was gulp like gulp like big gulp, g u l.
P, Yes, gulp today m gulp.
And now I'm gonna make sure that they don't play that song anymore when I go back there. So two big results in the NBA ten. The Thunder beat the Nuggets one twelve, one oh five, a big final minute from Sga, who delivers on a three to give the Thunder a six point lead.
They don't.
The Nuggets don't get any closer, and the thunderwent at one twelve one oh five. Meanwhile, we watched the Cavaliers go down despite a big night offensively from Donovan Mitchell, coming back from injury, stays in the you know is in the lineup, doesn't shoot all that well, but gives you the good and bad of the Calves tonight in one stretch where he hits a three, gets fouled making a three, misses all three free throws with a minute left to go. That really sensed the loss, but then he hits another three just to keep it close.
It was maddening the thing.
He left for a yeah, but came back and played put up twenty five shots, So it was all on his shoulders, you.
Know, and not to think.
And that's the big take. When I look at both of these games and compare them, is like, especially the last couple of nights, seeing the clutch play we get from Jalen Brunson, seeing the clutch play we get from Tyre's Halliburton, who was phenomenal tonight, and the clutch end of game performance tonight from Gildess Alexander. Like I get when I watching the three of them, I get the sense of calm that all of them have at the end of games. They each have the ball in their hands and they make the right decision, and if they they don't, you live with it because it's not something where I'm dribbling into trouble and I'm forcing up a bad shot. Well, you live with a bad four shot from your best player. Now, Brunson, SGA, Halliburton, all make the right decisions in the final minutes of a game. And this is not to say that Donovan Mitchell's bat, but I don't get that same sense of calm from him in the final minutes. I don't get that said I'm going to make the right play. I get the sense of I'm hot, give me the ball, I want to shoot it like that, And Mitchell's a great player, right and again, I don't want to come down on two hour because the guy's a Mets fan. He loves the Mets like I do. But I don't get the level of superstarness. There's a difference, and where Mitchell is is a level below because I don't get that end of game sense that he's going to make the right call. It's I'm a shooter and give me the ball and I'm gonna make the shot. But watching him, watching his body language for the three free throws at the end, like if each one was worse than the last, and he looked uncomfortable at the line, I'm like, you got you missed that first one. You're an eighty percent free throw shooter, and you miss three in a row. Okay, eighty percent free throw you don't miss three in a row, Like, okay, if you miss one, it's boy, how do you miss one? But at least you hit two of them and it's a four point game with a minute left to go. But instead you miss all three. I don't get that sense of end of game takeover, but a sense of calm where I'm gonna make the right place. I don't get that from Mitchell. I get that from the other three guys.
And that's the hard art for Mitchell is that this carries over from you know, his years in Utah of watching their early exits, even if you thought they had a great squad, and look all that's say you won sixty eight games, you had a huge lead in this one and couldn't finish it, which is the story, you know, overarching story of this NBA season. The other being the three guys that you mentioned. They're rarefied air anymore. How many closers do we really have?
Yeah, gotta like going to closure by committee in Major League Baseball.
In the NBA, there are very few.
Guys that are going to knock down the shots and get the ball in their hands. You're feeling comfortable they're gonna give us the best chance to win. Jokic being that on the other side, But beyond that.
Stratusfram by the way White Sox played the Reds today ironic since we have the lifting of the band today. So I think I'm gonna go home and watch eight Men Out.
Okay, good, pick it up.
Maybe I'll just watch up until the World Series because I know how it ends. Yeah, ends and eight games for Mike, Tom Jason coming up next to my buddy Ben Mall. One of this is Fox Sports Radio nix Yo
