Brian Noe and Ephraim Salaam, in for Jason Smith and Mike Harmon, react to the defensive battle in Arizona between the Cards and the Packers. Noe unsurprisingly has some gambling lines on this game. Ephraim explains to Brian what's wrong with the Chiefs. What is KC's ceiling this season? Salaam has a great story about 'the wedge' when he was playing college ball. The fellas talk football injuries and letting your kids play, as both teams on Thursday Night Football have players helped off the field.