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Maybe if you had unfolded your arms more you had a job.
Tip, maybe you would want.
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Come on, what you do? Dial it?
Doc Rivers is out there, don't.
Don't you soach me?
Don't you say?
Come on, man, that.
That would be the greatest thing for the man for the furthering of the show during the long arduous run that is the NBA regular season, to be able to chronicle that on a day to day basis and mine, Come.
On, I know you and I are at Odds Frostburg with the Mets Dodgers coming up in a few minutes. Yeah, that's over the line, man, that I wouldn't wish Doc Rivers on you. I wouldn't risk Doc Rivers on any but I'm pretty I wouldn't wish Doc Rivers on the White Sox. That's how much I wouldn't wish Doc Rivers on anybody. You know what, He might actually eke out it, although Venable is doing a pretty good job with a bad roster, and they at least come out and fight these days.
But fault's fault. That's all his fall bring the hometown kid, Doc Rivers home.
Come on, let's go before you get to everything. There is a really there's a really easy way that I think people are just blowing past. Which is what And you know why the Knicks fired Tibbs today after their greatest season in twenty five years. Think for a second right outside, you know, big NBA fans, we all watch Eastern Conference Finals. Yes, the Knicks lost. It was really difficult. Their flaws were all exposed. But just think about being around the Knicks for the last couple of days with this right, the Knicks lose and it is heartbreaking. And not only that they are not over a Game one that is going down in the annals of NBA history as the biggest blown loss in the history of the game. Can't I can't overstate that enough. The Knicks lost Game one, blowing a lead in the final minute that nobody in the history of the game is blown.
Right.
We went back and looked the record fourteen hundred and fourteen wins and no losses when the NBA was taken keeping track of this right from the mid nineties, Right, fourteen fourteen to zero with a nine point lead and fifty seconds left to go on regulation and you know what, you know, a team has never blown a lead like that. Even before that, because teams didn't hit threes for the for the early part of the nineties and the eighties, they didn't take that many shots. Before that, there was no three point shot. So I guarantee you nobody in the one hundred some odd years since since Nasmith said, hey, cut the holes out of the peach basket, eased to get the basketball back.
Since that, no one has blown a lead. This was.
So yeah. This is an all time worst loss in the NBA. This is a loss that stays with the team and franchise forever. It's Reggie Miller on steroids because this was Hey, at least the Knicks won that series at Reggie Miller made the choke sign. This was blowing Game one watching Halliburton's miracle shot fall doing the choke sign. It is an all time embarrassing Game one and series loss for the Knicks. You're naive if you think a team can just sit there and say, well, we'll get him next year. We didn't have as good a roster. The Pacers were a better team. No, some losses you can't come back from. Because they're just that bad. Not all losses are created equal. Some losses are worse than others. Some losses make the worst losses look like a kid given out candy. This was one of those Game one We've never seen it before, a team has never had that happen. When something like that happens, you can't just bring the guys back next year. You can't just say, okay, roll it back, we'll make some There needs to be repercussions. There needs to be fall up. We told you after Game one. If they lose this series, the guys are gonna look at is gonna be Tibbs and Karl Anthony Towns? And who are the guys? TIBs and Karl Anthony Towns? All the Karl Anthony Towns criticism the last few days, and now Tibbs gets fired today. Sometimes a loss is just so bad you can't bring Tibbs back because he's a memory and a reminder, an every day walking institution of we blew that lead against the Pacers. We're gonna blow it again. You're gonna see this in the playoffs. Every time a team is up nine with a minute left to go, Reggie Miller is gonna say, remember the Pacers next in twenty twenty five. Reggie Miller's gonna be ninety eight years old, that like thirty years from now, and it's gonna be saying, remember.
When the Bass did it back in twenty five with Halla Burton.
That's exactly how it's gonna go. You can't bring them back. That's why I'm not surprised at all. The TIBs got fired because this loss and then the series loss was just so bad you have to start anew You have to start and say, Okay, we gotta move away from this because this is just gonna hang over the franchise. I mean, it's gonna hang over the franchise enough already, but bringing back the same cast of characters, it's like a cloud, like the cloud that follows pig Pen, you know in the in the Peanuts, Like that's what's gonna happen, and that that's why the Knicks had no choice, And I understand it. I'm not surprised with the fire and Tips because some losses are just so bad you have to move on and start new, and this is one of those losses. I like that you said, and the Peanuts kind of like you were going, it's not said not just peanuts, the peanuts.
Look, it's it's the thing we've.
Talked about for a month is that you had eighty two games to try to see what else was on the roster instead of grinding out win in game fifty five, right, fifty seven whatever.
Middle of the season, Hey you play forty two. Well, at no point did you develop continuity. And we saw it exacerbated when Brunson had to leave a game for a short period with an injury. It was like, they look absolutely lost. Right. You had several turnovers in a row, a couple of shot clock violations, a lot of pointing as if it was the Spider Man meme come to life. No continuity there. And so when all of a sudden you get to the playoffs and it's like, all right, we need some depth. Cat picked up his requisite too, silly falls early, so we need to go to the bench. Oh wait, now we can't use him because he can't play defense and he's in foul trouble. All of those things to say, it's an imperfectly structured roster. And we've been clear about that, talking about that the whole season. For those that live and die by.
Jason's Knicks fandom and Mets fandom, but Knicks fandom.
We appreciate you being part of the show. That means you listen a lot if you get triggered by it, So thank you. Just stay with us because it's gonna it's gonna be a wild off season. But for this move, you say, hey, congratulations on a job done. Here's a giant pile of money to go out the door, and you try to figure out what's next. The roster is gonna go through an overhaul, and Rose is certainly on the under the microscope here as to what kind of depth and where we're looking at for the NBA and things changing with these two teams that'll square off starting Thursday, when you're running ten sometimes eleven deep right and fast break points and ability to get out of that versus all right, slow the ball down and take nothing from brunts, and you can decide whether you want him on your top five in the game today. Jason put that poll question out on air last week. But it's just that idea of all right, how do you restructure this and what's the direction going forward? And with Thibodeaux as the face the gruff, non responsive in many ways coach of this squad in New York, that's just not gonna stand right. The expectation really went through the roof after beating the hated Celtics, and that game one loss will forever stain whatever legacy. Now Cat got him fired twice so that we should remember that. It's like this guy again, all right, and you know all all the things we've talked about. You know, you can only hide him so long, and defensively, that was the reason he didn't fit with what Minnesota was trying to do. And you thought you'd be able to piece it together. But again, if you're only gonna run six seven deep and you don't have big men on the bench to spell adequately, and you can only cover up defensive lacking uh issues by Brunson and Cat so long before you're exposed. And Indiana did it. So now it's to the next iteration of the Knicks. And it was fun watching all the names. As you said, the bell odds great, The betting odds had I think thirty five guys on it.
Oh yeah, yeah, freight, where we're done? Where was Stephen A.
Smith?
Where where was he was he?
In the thing? Take no.
Hold on a second, let me way behind, Doc Rivers.
Oh he is.
No, but look, but just think about it because normally we see it with players, right, usually when when a manager oversees a collapse and a team loses, it's ay, we collapsed over the course of the end of the regular season. We collapsed in the playoffs, and that's why coaches get fired. This is a one series thing, but it had We've seen it. Sometimes you don't realize you see it, but you do. I'll go back to last year in Major League Baseball, right, so let's me bring up pee A Lonzo's home run. Devin Williams one of the best closers of Major League baseball, right, one of the best. Now, he was hurt a little bit last year, but guy, give up one home run all season. He is as lights out a closer as there was. Right, fastball, change up, that's all you needed, right, That's all Mariano Rivera needed. But he gives up the big home run to Alonso in the ninth inning of a game. The Brewers had a two to nothing lead and they were moving on to the Nlds, and they gave up four runs in the inning and they lost sometimes a loss is so bad you couldn't bring him back. Right, You couldn't bring Devin Williams back. You couldn't bring the You couldn't bring the guy back because it's just the loss against the Mets would hang over. You don't know, is he's still gonna be the same guy. He's gonna be thinking about that loss. It's a daily reminder of the home run because that home run was such a big deal. It wasn't just hey, he gave up a home run. They lost a game. This was ninth inning. Man, come in, shut the door. It's a two run lead. It was so bad the Brewers had to move on from him, Right. It's not like he wanted a big contract. It's not like there was a situation where he's gonna hit free agency or where the Brewers knew we can't go, we can't move on with him, and we have to deal him, so they traded him to the Yankees.
Right.
I mean, that's really why it happens with players. Most guys at miss field goals, guys that give up big home runs, got guys that that that melt down in a pitching situation, Right when when you Darvish couldn't come back to the Dodgers after that big World Series melt down and allegedly was tipping pitches like that's it, Like, you can't come back after this. Usually it's players, but this was such a big deal and and you know where are you gonna go? You can't bring the head coach back because that's too much a reminder of how bad things were. And you just need a fresh start, no matter who it is. You'd a fresh start with this team and go forward because it's young, you're building. And again that's why I'm not surprised at all that this happened. It's the negative part of being the face of the franchise. They become the face of the franchise, futility in fifty two years, the foff as.
It were, Jason all that said, he got fired because the nick sucked.
They stop that.
We were there were three teams left and we were one of them. We were in the final three.
We're going to the finals, and we told you no, no, no, you got to you're not getting past the pacers.
All right, righty stephen A is sixty to one, sixty.
To one, Doc Rivers.
Really he's not on the short list I'm looking at here. I got Johnny Bright from the She's not the Favorite.
Find a new list.
Wait, stephen A. Smith has shorter odds than Doc Rivers.
No, at least from Bravada what they had put up earlier. Then. Well, I mean they also had Patrick Ewing at plus nine point fifty with Sam Cassel and Mike Budenolzer. Oh wow, okay, all right, all right, Mark Jackson at fourteen to one. Okay, Jeff Van Gundy return at twenty five to one.
Stephen A what do you think of the What do you think of the NIXT performance tonight? You know they're they're three and one, their first loss of the season.
It was appalling. It was atrocious. It was depressing. It was disgusting, distressing, it was frightful. It was ghastly. It was horrifying. It was shocking. It was ugly. It was unpleasant. It was abominable. It was repulsive.
It was uncited, it was grungy, it was deplorable like that. I mean, I want to see that, just to see the postgame Prescott.
I think that's also how he described the press release in which they announced this. Instead of having the guts to do it, personally.
So I'm telling you reason number one. That's why sometimes there's sauces you just can't come back from if you're ready. You know what at the you know, Crosbury, your Lakers were watching the playoffs for like a month on Magic Johnson's yacht before the Knicks got eliminated.
Sometimes we got to take a year off.
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We got it.
We got TIBs out.
He had a good run.
Yeah, and listen, just think when it's a when it's a when it's a four game suite by the thunder, what we're gonna be talking about. Who the Knicks head coach is gonna be, It's gonna be, it's gonna be stretched into the office. Stop saying Doc River America.
Let's get doc trending.
Stop saying doc stop with it. No, no, no, we don't need that.
Man.
I'm strag Madison, square guard, I'm sorry.
Hashtag Alonso RBI single, Hashtago, Tani strikeout looking, let's hashtag all those things because all those things are just.
Don't have a kid he can put on the sideline that would be ready to coach. Wow, now that that's next level right there.
Call her buddy Evan Rosenbloom at TMZ and you come up with something there that's outstanding.
I got six guys he can he can send up there.
Which which of the sun gets the role and we'll have more than the tib story coming up in a few minutes. But you know, this is one thing where you know, you know, we're in the point of the calendar where we're waiting for football, right like like here I get you know, the NBA Finals are coming. Tims gets fired. You know, baseball is is you know, we we we hit the first third mark of the season and we're getting on. We're seeing how many games the Rockies, Well, congratulations, Rockies won a serious night. Yeah, but we're in that part where we're waiting for football, right, We're waiting for football or waiting for training camp. You know, it's it's beginning of June and it's okay, how much longer you know the players are off, but all right, they're gonna be here soon and we're gonna be able to pay. We're waiting for football, which means this John hu Smith story is way too overcovered, and but it makes up for being overcovered by being stupid. So there's that as well. Well.
I don't think it's so. I don't think it's overcovered though, because it really does. You got two franchises, one that is being held hostage for that other story that's still lingering, right, I mean because because look, if we don't have John hus Smith and you want to talk football, what we got Deon Sanders was a gift yesterday, right, and then otherwise it's hey, Aaron Rodgers, did he lick his finger and hold it up to see which way the wind was blowing? I mean, that's it. That's all we got right now. But the John new Smith is like the wait, are the Dolphins like giving up? It's taking It's overcovered, and it's over stupid. It's both of those things, all right, I like over stupid. We're gonna pat in that.
Last week we have had the story that you know, here's big NFL trade that could becoming at John Whusmith, one of the best tight ends in the NFL coming up for a contract extension. Dolphins potentially don't want to pay it, so they were talking trade with the Steelers. This makes no sense. We talked about it at the time. Why because the Dolphins don't have another tight end on the roster catch balls. You're gonna say goodbye to a guy called eighty eight passes last year.
Okay, you're tanking.
This would be stupid for you to do unless you're tanking for the Steelers. You still don't have a quarterback man. You're talking about trading for John Newsmith and giving him money here with anybody to throw the football because you're waiting to see if Aaron Rodgers wants to come play for you.
Well, was this a move for Mason rudolphs we get we get the duel tight end between him and friar Mouth. You only have to complete a ball between five and ten yards. I mean, come on it, it might actually be genius.
They called Mason Rudolphin and said, hey, Mason, what do you need to succeed this year?
I need another tight end?
Right, so you already have Friarmuth, who is pretty good. No, we're adding John hus Smith right, and you don't have a quot So this is stupid. Okay, then, okay, we get the story earlier today at a chefter reports the deal is off. Deal is off. John new Smith is not getting del That's not gonna happen. We're not gonna have John new Smith going to the Steelers. Okay, the trade is off, all right, great, and then a few hours later, oh no, the trade is back on. Okay, now can we stop with the stupid because now we're back to the story from last week where it's just stupid. Because now, okay, now we're back to like each each side realized, okay, this is kind of stupid, and you know, we don't want to be seen as tanking. We don't want this to happen. Let's call this off. No, no, no, no, let's go back and now let's do it. So now the trade is back on again, and they could be and there it's back on in which they're talking about it, not back on in which they've made the trade.
So we can go.
Back to our take of last week that this is stupid because the Dolphins are only doing this, that they're tanking and the Steelers are doing it. Who knows why. I don't know why we don't have a quarterback. But now let's get another tight end. Is that gonna work with Aaron Rodgers? Does Aaron Rodgers never really threw the ball to one tight end. Let let alone, he's gonna throw it to two guys. Come on, man, what is what is happening?
Being?
Teams have lost their minds. That's why this entire story it was stupid then okay, clear clear has prevailed.
Now it's stupid again. Yeah, looking at it from the Dolphins side, because they've got so much swirling. Right, you had the season with Tua tonguea Vailoa missed some games, but all in all, you know he's ready to roll.
You've got tyreek Hill who's been on a pr Let's clean up a bunch of mess in the background.
Here is Hey, I'm happy to be here. But is he a post June first? Right now we're June third? Is he gonna get dealt? Right? There's been a lot of talk about that. And Jalen Wattle disappeared a year ago, right, his numbers were down. So is the the dooom come off the rose? That was Mike McDaniel, Right, he was supposed to revolutionize thing. He was the super genius. He staks and that's with the top five running back in a chan Right. So, so you've got a passing game that isn't working. You're not setting the league up fire, you're getting passed by the Patriots in their rebuild and whatever Vrabel's able to do. And the Yets might have more explosive plays in their offense with Justin Fields under center than what you've been building for several years. So yeah, let's trade an all Pro guy who caught eighty eight balls and kept the chains moving to at least give you a puncher's chance at a bunch of games.
So none of it, none of it makes sense. None of this makes that now, unless, hey, you're tanking. If you're the Dolphins, which, wow, man, a year ago they were the up and coming I still can't get over the fact that they were so a year ago. Now is watch out for the Dolphins. Their speed, they're revolutionized in the NFL. And now maybe they're tanking. Maybe maybe they're gonna wind up tanking, and the Steelers just continue to prove that, Look, we really don't know what we're doing. We just come to work every day and just you know, who knows, We don't know. We whatever decide whoever we decide that sounds good to us, we're gonna do whether or not it makes sense for the team or not.
Yeah, as long as you need to do.
Without a quarterback. It's absolutely fine. Don't worry about it.
Do you think instead of the sign like the at Notre Dame where it's just play like a champion today that everybody has to slide about, it's like we're not having a losing season and you slap that on your way through the door to go decide how you're building your roster.
Yeah, they just go five hundred. Five hundred is our chat. Like every push up they finish eight, I'm willing to give. I'm willing to get benefit that they go nine and eighty. They go, okay, nine and eight, nine and eight, nine and eight, I'm willing to say that they'll go that far.
It's just amazing, though, right, and we see all sorts of ridiculous trade trade offers and rumors and things out there, and it's trying to go through and parse through the noise, and usually it's pretty obvious when it's bogus. This one has been reported very widely, and you've got two franchises that seemingly are in no man's land, like the Rogers thing. I think there's a handshake deal and eventually we get to that point and now it's just everybody's being held hostage in the news cycles.
Uh.
And it gives us one thing that is a consistent thread, waiting on OTAs into training camp, which is still along seven eight weeks away. But this for the Dolphins, it really makes no sense in any way, shape or form. You're what you're tanking to get into the quarterbacks who may or may not be any good Arch Manning, have we seen enough? Yeah, he runs fast. That's the highest compliment you can throw him right now. He's faster than the other Mannings. I don't I don't think that's the cell point for Hey, let's tank right. Every other quarterback has a giant question mark and we're like, all right, we're gonna pop them up because you know they may get there, but none of them have the requisite starts. Right, we always talk twenty five thirty be in the benchmark. They all still have a lot of prove it. Rch Manning is the king of that great pedigree, great program.
Historically, it would say that he doesn't actually come out even if he has a great season based on the family's track record. Oh yeah, right, So I mean like you may be raising and it's like, oh, we're number one It's like, yeah, he's decided to go back to school. Not damn it all the hell, especially especially coming out of that Cooper Flag report that he reported he reportedly made twenty eight to thirty million dollars. You're telling me Arch isn't creeping up towards that money at Texas. Oh, of course he is. Of course he is good.
So you know the wait, I can stand another year and do that when the rookie wage scale has dictated by the NFL. What I stay here another year? I'm better off.
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But if you're.
Tanking Dolphins, congratulations.
We'll have more on Tom Thibodeau coming up in a couple of seconds, but right now, time to find out what's trending in the wide world of sports. A guy who's been called the TIBs of Fox Sports Radio because he's not working tomorrow either.
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Say they call me mister Tibbs. After five years in New York, the Knicks fired their head coach Tom Thibodeau today. Last summer, he signed a three year contract extension through twenty twenty eight. New York's had back to back fifty win seasons for the first time since nineteen ninety five, and the Nicks just made the East Finals. Indiana's in the NBA Finals starting Thursday at Oklahoma City, and then Game two of the series will be Sunday. Indiana, by the Way in the finals for the first time since two thousand. Guard Tyrese Haliburton was born in two thousand three. WNBA games tonight eight and oh Minnesota won again beating Phoenix eighty eight sixty five. Indiana with a home win over Washington eighty five seventy six. Caitlin Clark still out with the string quad. The late game has Dallas at one in six, leading at Seattle thirty eight to thirty at the half. The Stanley Cup Finals starts Wednesday, Florida at Edmonton. The NHL Awards by the Way will be held just before game four of the series. US women's soccer has won four nothing tonight over Jamaica at an exhibition in Saint Louis. Number two see Carlos Alcarez won his quarterfinal at the French Open, beating American Tommy Paul in straight sets.
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Defensive end, Jim Marshall died at the age of eighty seven. He played two hundred and seventy straight games with Minnesota through nineteen seventy nine. As for the games in progress in the major leagues, the Royals lead ten to seven at Saint Louis in the bottom of the eighth. Mariners and Orioles tied one to one bottom of the third. Houston is even with Seattle for the moment in the Al West standings. Houston has won three nothing at Pittsburgh, beating Paul Skeins, who had eight strikeouts in eight innings. But Skeens is four and six despite lowering his ERA to two point h five.
The Astros must have cheated steven.
The Giants are up to nothing on the Padres in the top of the fourth. A's out to an early one nothing lead on the Twins bottom of the second. The A's have lost eighteen of nineteen. Yay, but Colorado won on the road again. You know, before last night they were three and twenty eight in the road games this year. They've won two straight at Miami three to two. Tonight's final Rockies had ended in eight game losing streak. Last night, Cubs won eight three at Washington. Cincinnati over Milwaukee four to two. That ends the Brewers' eight game winning streak. As Red center fielder TJ. Friedel robbed a two run homer, catching the final out. The Yankees held on three to two over Cleveland. The same to Devin Williams, although he allowed to run in the ninth. Yankee closer Luke Weavers on the injured list with a strain hamstring. Bryce Harper of the Phillies returned after the Bruce delbo and Tonight homered in the first. In fact, Philadelphia scored six times in the top of the first and won at Toronto eight three. That ends the Blue Jays five game winning streak. Arizona and Tampa Bay each one. Angels won in ten at Boston four to three. The White Sox beat Detroit eight to one. The White Sox won nothing in the six and beat a Tigers team that entered with a record of forty and twenty one, while the White Sox were.
Just eighteen and forty two.
And we can update the game at Dodger Stadium first and left.
This is actual news.
The Dodgers canceled batting practice because of pregame rain no rain rece evening.
Well, now they're having batting practice in the first inning and for Mets.
The Tyler McGill show. Well, he's allowed four runs in the first inning. And yeah there was the early home run, the early run scored I should say by New York the Lonzo RBI single set up by Clayton Kershaw, wild pitch. But it's now Dodgers for one over the Mets. In the bottom of the first, Max Munsey with a two run homer, his eighth of the year.
Back to you, gee, thanks Steve, I appreciate that. Thanks.
So remember it's ty lore correct because it's Tyler. But every time I see his name and pause and the other McGill is actually better. So you know, we have the two McGill brothers, we have the one, and his.
First inning is going down in some lore.
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Uh So, look, we talked about the big reason why Tibbs got fired by the Knicks, because so stop with that their better stop. Stop you upset the Laker fan. Just stop.
It has nothing to do with the Lakers. The Nicks.
We were in the Eastern Conference finals. Man, it's not like sixties.
I thought you were beating the Pacers.
Dude, we were dude.
You couldn't beat any but you couldn't get out of the first round against a guy who shows up when.
He feels starts with dude.
Dude, dude, dude, dude, dude, dude. No, it's like, dude, I want you to be serious.
Are you okay?
You okay? Bro?
Bro?
You he was this guy.
Bro's gonna keep Pascal siakaming you.
You okay? Bro? You You're cool. You're good. Bro.
You guys got TIBs fired. The only well it look five bombs in the bench.
This is the only part of this that I'm upset about today, because again I told you I wasn't surprised.
I'm not uplook.
The Knicks need a clean start because of this loss was just so bad. I'm okay with the new direction, and it's fine. Here's the only reason I hate Tibbs getting fired because it gives the bleeping Pacers another w right, because it was not only did we beat the Knicks, not only did we win against our all time rival, not only did we win in a way which embarrasses them. We got through the choke sign again. Now Halliburton and Reggie Miller can sign pictures together a card shows for the next thirty years and make money. We'll split this money. No, no, now it's oh, we got TIBs fired. Like it's another win for the Pacers who win, and they win without class and all, and they're moving on and now they're just saying, oh, yeah, look now we got TIBs fired and they're laughing going into the NBA Finals. That's the only thing I'm upset about is that it gives the Pacers another w.
Because they got TIBs fired. Well, but it was inevitable, right, It's the Fano snap. And I guess if you can trade on this, look, if they go out and get absolutely curb stumped by OKC, it has its weight to a point, right, because the sting of getting absolutely dominated by SGA and the greatness that is the combination of Chet and lou Dort will will send them into oblivion. So the short lived successes of vanquishing the Knicks, it's not really gonna stay. Now we see them in the playoffs matched up again next year. Sure there's a lot of run and you'll get some good b roll of TIBs with his arms folded added Game one and the crowd height video. There's no question about that. A distraught Chalameat or Spike Lee or whatever else they do with his little train conductor hat on, all of those things will be there.
But you can't live there like this.
This is where you knew it was gonna happen.
The Knicks fan base was calling for change, and the obvious's.
Cat, which we talked about yesterday, we stayed on the roster side because we'd been doing the coaching ability of Tibbs even with that extension. So he goes into the Business Hall of Fame. Now. But all of that to say, it's it's you'll get over it. Why because you need to claw back against the Dodgers. You have more pressing issues now. You have to try to spoil kershaw day. You can't worry about what what the uh the Pacers did to your Knicks anymore.
Uh. Well, unfortunately this.
Is a story. I mean, it's not only so much I can do.
This is I'm saying for your own person, is a psychology of this that you have to I mean, you have to let it go. You were ready for Kenny Atkinson to be hired away from Cleveland or or whatever might happen, right, I mean, it's it's inevitable.
Maybe maybe it is Doc Rivers, maybe it's Stephen A. Smith. Maybe it's your guy Danny Hurley, because I know you lit candles. You went down and found a bodega that had Danny Hurley votive candles and lit those all across your your little, uh you know, room with with Nick's memorabilia. I have no doubt.
Exit out about a Fresca exit swollen dome. Jason Smith Mike Harmon Live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios. Coming up next, we got the play of the day, And I didn't think you could have a quarterback controversy when you sign a guide to one hundred million dollar contract, But maybe that's going on in one NFL city.
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Ford Desito score, Ben attended a wind mail is odd, Peter will.
Come across Slater drips in two with a double here in this seven and the Socks take a six to one lead.
Be honest TV.
Who oh sure Ben and tends he's in the middle of everything. Oh oh sorry, well what was What was funny is there's a bit of excitement and he actually had to call a play because the overwhelming criticism after they got throttled by the Tigers yesterday was he was just silent, so in saltea and soft. So it was the eight second sign off. Yeah, let's send it to Chuck and Ozzie to break it down. It's like, wow, that's the quickest anybody's ever gotten out of a booth in the history of man.
But yeah, eight one win, White Sock gradulate. I mean, this is the biggest highlight of the year for you. Like if no, it's if they were doing NFL yearbook for the White Sox, it would start with this game best team in baseball, Detroit Tiger's best record, and.
Show you beating them. Hey, all right, Unfortunately.
All year was not this way for the White Sox, but they are taking flight. That would be your NFL films.
Come on, Michael Taylor, who they gave a contract after he hit him buck ninety three for Pittsburgh last year with a big day to day. Yeah, I'll believe it at that.
Now, speaking of the NFL, you didn't think the Seahawks would have some kind of quarterback controversy, but apparently they do so. Head coach Mike McDonald was on Seattle Sports seven to ten am earlier today and was asked if anything other than an injury between now and the start of the season could lead the Seahawks to go with another quarterback instead of Sam Darnald, who they just gave three years and one hundred and ten million dollars too. H McDonald said, no, you guys are crazy. It's just not gonna happen. I respect. You got to ask the question. Sam is our starting quarterback. We love him.
He's doing a tremendous job. Ah. Yes, and no, he's.
Not looked great so far, up and down in OTAs making some good plays. Other times he is struggling. But of course he's gonna be the starting quarterback, right they gave the guy three years and one hundred and ten million dollars.
Of course he's gonna start. You know.
The big thing to understand out of this and this is what you know. This is what comes up with the the the perils of signing a guy who puts one big year together in his fourth system and plays well. Sam Darnald is not a good quarterback. Sam Darnald is a good quarterback in the right system. And you can sit here and say, well, we projected he'll do Okay, He's not throwing up to Justin Jefferson anymore. Yes, Jackson Smith, the JIGBA is really good. Yeah, I mean, the Seahawks have talent, but this is not the up and down the field offense where he fit last year with Minnesota and to think that, yeah, he could do it. Remember, he's not a good quarterback. He's good in the right system, and so far there's been one system of all the teams he's been on that he's been good for. So yeah, this is why I'm a little suspicious and a little apprehensive to say, all of a sudden, Sam Darnald's great. You know the OTA stories. I remember these Ota stories from the Jets. Boy Sam Darnald made a couple of good throws here with boy OTAs he struggled. Remember, he's only good in the right He's not a quarterback that's good anywhere. He's not a good quarterback that if you take him out of a team and bring him somewhere else, he signs for a lot of money. Hey, he's a good quarterback. He is good in the right system, and the jury is out if this is the right system for him in Seattle. Well, I mean, remember they go back to twenty twelve where we had Matt Flynn signed into a big deal and then all of a sudden, Russell Wilson was the So.
I mean it can happen. History can repeat itself.
And Sam Darnold, I really thought this was going to be a dating thing, because it didn't when there was something that started circulating about celebrities and whatever, and then a bunch of articles about the woman he is currently in a relationship with.
So you always have that circling in the background for all all of that.
But for for Seattle, Yeah, this is not the controversy you want.
I get it. It gives us some headlines for for you and I to talk about them. In Seattle. It's like, we spent this money on a quarterback to come in and you've got a pretty good system, right, you got a pretty good roster division that's going to be held to get through, there's no question about that. Oh and you traded away a big piece of what your offense was, you know, not that that's a you know, something to really lament at this stage.
I mean, really, he's one for five and that's what it is. It's a That's why it's a huge gamble for sam Guard. Look, I get why they did what they did. They wanted to move on Ginosmith only got him so far. But man, you gotta remember that's what reminds you. This is a huge risk. It's an absolutely huge risk going on in Seattle and all of a sudden, Now you got people saying, hey, could he not be the quarterback beginning of the season. That's insane.
Well, but it's good to have these things to fester and give us stuff to talk about. Where does he rank in fantasy purposes?
Up next, we get back to the biggest story of the day, the two names I would like to see take.
Over for tims in New York.
Wait, are you ahead of me? Oh, you're ahead of me.
Frosburg, you're ahead of me. Back back back back, Brack God Jan.
Soto a two run homer off for Kershaw. That's his first yet. I think that that's his first hit as a.
Met Actually I don't think.
Wow, he should go get the ball from the guy in the stands probably Zach Hampell has it.
See he just stole the back page from TIBs though, Yeah, because it's like, hey, he can't yet, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, no, it will be, It will be, it will be, uh, you know, it will say Tom to go or you know, something like that. And then and then in the top Sodo catching fire like in a real tiny font.
Yeah.
That's I don't think in New York they know what Kershaw Day is, don't course, I don't think they. I don't think they celebrate New York. They do, but I don't think they celebrate it like that, you know they they you know, would just be hey.
So universally celebrated.
Everybody, everybody, we're all celebrating Kershaw Day. We're celebrating celebrating.
Uh So, Look, the Knicks fired tips today, right, And and you know we talked about it that, we talked about it over a week ago. I'm not surprised because the loss was so bad. The game one loss of the Pacers was so all time NBA bad. Sometimes you can't come back from it, right, and you need to be able to have a clean slate for next year. It's a really big and and I you know, we usually talk about it with players when they make mistakes or a team loses, but that's the number one thing they The Knicks need a break, a clean break after this devastating loss of the Pacers. Need a clean, clean slate.
I get it.
So now when you talk about who's next, right, you know, Look, the most fun part of today was seeing was just watching Twitter and seeing the names change every few minutes and all the all the all the basketball names. I go, oh, here's a few thousand people that think this guy should be the head coach of the Knicks. You know here, Oh, here's Rick Patino's name coming up to the Sure Rick Patino, why not? Metaworld Peace says, I want all the smoke, right, I want to be the Knicks head coach, and he goes on to talk about games he won, including winning one I think it was some high school championship or something that he won where he said, and we won this where there was no security.
No security. We made sure to point out there was no security, like that's necessary to get get over Yeah. No, but I don't, I don't, I don't know. I don't know what that means. I don't.
I don't know. You know, winning with you know, winn winning when there was no security, Like, hey, there was a really bad game. The two teams didn't like each other. They were gonna be fights after. We had no security. We didn't know if we were gonna get out of there alive because we won this game. Like, I guess that's what it means, no secre I guess that's what that means, right, I have no idea.
Yeah, it is a a curious uh, space that we're operating in. Uh, we can probably find him and get him to come on and make his gaze. It's not like a political palace, oh man, Yeah, I mean it's it's not like a political office where we have to then get the other ninety seven candidate's equal time. I think he could just do one.
We can get doc Rivers a lot of time, like no, stop stop.
Doc Rivers is not he's not even on the list. Man, he's not even on the list.
You don't have the list.
Then you are tampering with doc Rivers right now. Maybe you get doc Rivers that a JJ Reddick. Maybe I could do that. Hey, JJ, how about that my pal JJ Reddick who loves me. How about I do that? Get you're replaced by Doc Rivers with the Lakers, how about that?
You can go coach the Bucks? Be fun. See now, now you're just trying to bring your anger on Justin. He didn't do anything. Yeah, he trying to. He's just talking about it. That's available.
You're trying to put doc doc Rivers has a job. Shockingly so Doc Rivers still has a job. You're trying to give him to us.
Now, I don't do that.
I don't want any of that, Doc Rivers, smoke, I don't want any of that. You cannot of want that. I don't want him near my play I would if I was doing a fantasy league and I to take head coat we were drafting head coaches, I wouldn't want him because I wouldn't want him near my players on my fantasy team. But that doesn't matter. Don't want to I don't want to see his name next to the guys they're gonna play in my fantasy team. I would have nothing to do with Doc Rivers. Get that out of here.
Man, Come all right, you want to have a little bit of fun with the current odds as uh put up by DraftKings.
Yeah, because I'll tell you the two guys that are that are really interesting to me that I would love to see one of these two guys get the get gut.
Leader in the clubhouse currently Mike Malone. He's not like he has a coaching spot. Again, look Danny Hurley and and Michael Malone. Of course they're gonna be nominated because well but he's but further down the list. He's got worse odds than Rick Brunson.
Yeah, well yeah, well Rick Brunts is not getting the Jan Budenholzer Budenhols is not getting the job, and Jay Wright the look. Jay Wright would be the first call and the Knicks would be making coaching mal practice if they didn't call Jay Wright. Obviously, the Villanova connection. He's a guy who's sharp. He gets the big market. Jay right, Jay Wright watching him coach, he is a He is a coaching gangster, right, Like that's what he like. I think a Jay Glazer. That guy's such a gangster, Like like meeting a guy he's so tough and he's so cool and he demands respect.
Like that's what I think.
Jay Wright is a gangster, right, So that's the guy I would want to Obviously, you have to make a call for him. Now, Look, Hurley would be fun, be fun to see him standing there looking staring up at Karl Anthony Townsend yelling at him for not playing defense, like just screaming at him in his face. But like Danny Hurley and Mike Maloney, they're like the two, they're like two of the same kind of versions of Tibbs, right, because TIBs is a guy, he was grouchy, he was you know, he would preach defense and he would be kind of a hard ass. And it's kind of tough to have a hard ass followed by a hard ass, right, It's it's really difficult to do. Usually when you make changes, you make a change because okay, we're going from the hard ass coach the players coach. Then when Matt doesn't work, you go from the players coach back to the hard ass coach. So I feel like Malone is kind of some of the same thing. And basically, look, I mean the guy talked about near the end of the time before he got fired that he didn't like his players.
No, that's the thing, right, Many.
Of the clips come back to you really want this No, that's not gonna play man, He's gonna call out guys not wanting to watch film and not play defense, not rot Yeah, that's what you want to do with this squad?
Yeah, og, you're fine, You're good. You guys over here, I mean, I don't even know what you How ugly does that get? I mean it'd be great for New York. You are talking about in a media fire scorod as we went.
Thirty five games, what happened to this team?
No?
But like it's it's kind of the same thing. And for look, when you had to fire a coach three games before the end of the regular season, suddenly you turn on to give that guy a job. It's like when the Jets said, oh man, Adam Gase got fired. Oh good for him. He was terrible with the dog. Oh we just hired him. Oh okay, great, Like he didn't get at any time to learn what he did wrong stuff to do for the next job. That basically, oh hey, yeah, Adam Gase was so bad he got fired by an Indivision coach.
We're hiring as our next head coach.
And the guy still and I told you when he got fired, he's not working in the NFL again.
Where's Adam Gase?
Right?
Told you what's it gonna happen?
Because it was so bad?
But like Taco Tuesday, it is Taco Tuesday.
Uh.
But yeah, Malone and and and Hurley would kind of be like another version of Tims. Right, you need something a little bit different, And I'll give you two guys that I'd be excited about. And they're they're they're not some of the names off the top, but their names well, well, Steven A. Smith got the gig. That'd be awesome because he's on that list at sixty to one. That would be really really good. Uh, there's not gonna be practice, just gonna be debates. They're just gonna show up and with no practice, just gonna debate. We're just gonna debate and that's it. And and and Molly Carol will be there with him, and she'll sit next to him, and there he will be debating with Rick Brunston, with h Jalen Brunston to practice and he leaves, and an added nobody comes.
It will be a big debate. You get to argue your way into the starting line of.
Oh see, there you go. There you go, win the debate, get in the starting lineup. There you go, man, there you go.
Embrace debate on a whole other level.
That'd be the new They would be wearing T shirts on the bench with the embraced debates like it's it's kind of like you know, Nick Strong or you know, playoffs and embrace totag Embrace debate with a picture of Steven Asmith's head he came to practice with then inarguable, uh and in you know, an argument that we could not possibly break in any way, shape or form. So he earned his minutes tonight.
I've got on good authority. That sucks.
So the two guys i'd be excited about. And again there they're not two guys that that you would you would think off the top of your well, this is who Jason likes. First guy. Honestly, No, no, no, no. If you said to me pick a name out of a hat or Doc Rivers, I would say give me the hat and I'll put my whatever I come out with. That's a coach. No, I don't want I don't want Doc Rivers near my team. I don't want to even keep saying his name on the air because thinking that maybe Dolan's gonna listen and hear it and say, okay, we already know jj Reddick.
Listen, Dolan knows who Doc Rivers is.
Oh, oh that is true. That is true. He doesn't.
Yeah, you might know Glen Rivers.
He might know.
He might he might he might know uh Rivers, Cuomo, you know, maybe he might know Uh yeah, I mean I don't.
I'm trying to.
You might know Joan Rivers or three Rivers or Melissa Rivers or Riverfront Stadium or Philip Rivers, Philip Rivers or River Phoenix or are all his kids that are now gonna start dominating the collegiate. We're ready for the Chargers quarterback. He's a gunner. Rivers is that kid from the Cam Newton commercial just loosen up my arm. He does a commercial with Herbert just loosening up my arm, getting ready. But the first guy, honestly I like, is Mike Brown. All right, Mike Brown is someone who is defensive minded. He has accomplished. He's been to an NBA final. He redid the the Sacramento Kings, you know, two years ago. Mike Brown is a really good coach, right and like coaches, they have their ups in their downs, right there, Hey, a good coach for a few years, but but it falls on hard times you wind up getting let go. But he is accomplished. He is defensive, and the Knicks need to be more defensive. Mind like, right, what do you need coming in? You need some buddy that's gonna say, hey, okay, it was Tibs' thing, but now clearly not. How do you do this? And the guy's gotten farther in his career than Tibbs has. He's done more, He's done more under h you know, he's coached in La under a you know, having a having a big responsibility there too. So he's done enough in his career, and especially because I like the fact that defensively they'll be really, really good, because everywhere he goes, his teams are good defensively. Mike Brown's the first guy I really like.
No, I dig what you're trying to say there, but you just did the defensive guy. And clearly, unless you really redo this roster, you've got two very glaring problems with trying to run that. So I'm going the opposite way. I'm going Taylor Jenkins and let's and let's just go feed into the offense.
Yeah, that's tough, man. Ah, that's tough because the guy couldn't handle it in a smaller market and now he's gonna come in.
He also had to deal with a lot of the uh off court stuff in the Jrummeran's that was a little different.
Yeah, And that's a little too dicey with me and what he couldn't handle, and that all of a sudden he's going to go to New York and the pressure cooker and figure things out there, Right, I'm dicey with that.
Yeah, he and shallameo get along. Fine, Look we're running it up.
But the other guy I'm really intrigued by, right because and look because I don't really want to reach out. Look, Monty Williams is a great head coach, right, but he's up and down and is Monty Williams the right guy here? It's tough, right, But the good news is there's a lot of guys out there that have done some things that you're going to get to interview. Right, there's a lot of guys out there's a lot of former head coaches. Yeah, I don't want, but these are guys that have all won we see coach. No, no, no, neither of those guys. No, no, no, no, no no, because then he could bring Lebron there. No no, no, no no. You still stop putting guys out there that I don't want.
What do you think.
I didn't hear you?
You know Steve Nash at twenty two to one again hot podcast guy and he can go in New York who he wants playing the guard? Jase? I love it.
Stop stop stop, just stop stop with the guys that stop with the guy's not there.
Well, you know you gotta dig deeper down the list.
Stop not happening. Uh, the other the other guy honestly because you you've you've heard his name so much, Like you've heard his name so much that I'm so intrigued by him potentially being the next head coach of the Knicks, Like if if they hire if they can't get Jay Wright.
Okay, I get it.
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Hey guess what, man, guess what You're off those all of a sudden, there's effort all over man. Oh yeah, uh now, look like I said a few minutes ago, look who could replace you know, TIBs in New York Now, and I talked about Mike Brown being somebody. Obviously Jay Wright is the first call. But the two guys after that, Michael Malone doesn't really excite me because TIBs and and Danny Hurley, is he really gonna yell? Was yelling at Jalen Brunston. I mean, it's it's it's too similar. But the guy that I, honestly I really would like to see because he's been everybody's up and coming guy for a long time. He's won titles as an assistant. I kind of like to see Sam Cassell. I kind of like to see what he could do for the longest time. It's been boy, he's been close to a lot of jobs and hasn't gotten one. And maybe he's one of those guys that, hey, after coaching for so long, took him a while, ready to run his own thing. And and he's got a lot of cachet and players all remember him in his career. He instead of a retread that kind of comes in the let's see what you can do here, I kind of would like to see Sam Cassell.
I really though.
Those would be if it's not Jay Wright, those would be the two guys that I would say, Okay, if it's either of them, I'm okay with that.
If I'm the knicks lean in point guard, so can get the best out of Jalen Brunson. Really it all comes just back down and I know where it's the coaching job that's open. But that's not the biggest issue they had, right as much as that Game one debacle and those final ninety fifty seconds are things that are gonna live in the nightmares of New York. Might be a new horror franchise that comes out of it. To the theater and watch it. I don't know, you'll figure it out. We can, we can storyboard it. The but the ideas that you you have a flawed roster, right, and that doesn't mean that Tibbs used what he had properly, but I'd like to think he was smart enough that if he had a ninth guy that could actually play in substantive minutes, that he might have actually gotten off the bench. Uh So looking at you, uh, Leon Rose. But for for Sam Gassell, I'm curious to see if they do go down a deeper rabbit hole. Right between assistants, we talk about what you have on the bench in Cleveland and some of the favorites maybe to come off of there. But you know, when we look at the different on offshore odds and some of the the online marketplaces, it is a lot of familiar names. Hell, Jeff van Gundy is the third favorite.
Yeah, I know what I mean, though, I just kind of saying, where where we're at with this list and early betting odds and some of it. It doesn't require a lot of money to put odds to a higher spot, right and to get folks excitable.
But it's just curious to see all these old retread second, third, fourth bites at the Apple, uh making their their bones here in these early hours after TIB's departure.
Yeah, I mean, of course you're gonna get the names, and it's gonna and it's gonna be something that goes through the entire playoffs, the rest of the playoffs and the off season, like, okay, we got something great now. So when the when the NBA Finals is non competitive.
It's like, man, who are the Nicks gonna get? Who?
Suddenly the Nick? The Knick's job is so sought after, it's such people are gonna come out of the woodwork for it. I bet you look. I even saw Jackson's name trending earlier today, and we'll get fill back again. Yeah, that's great, Like everybody's gonna want this job now because it is so high profile. You have a lot of talent on this roster. Uh yeah, and you have money, all right, So it's it's depending on what you do with you know, in the off season. But this is something now suddenly it's wait, this is the most this is the most sought after job in the NBA, and now you got if the right coach gets there, you like you, We're gonna see stories of hey, they're talking to this coach, which means maybe Giannis is the guy that wants to go. I mean, you're gonna see stories like that. They're gonna carry us through the rest of the off season. So congratulations Nick. Christmas comes early to every NBA fan. We could talk about who the next coach in the Knicks is Donald but not do stop stop with Doc. Doctor Octopus has a better chance to get in the job than Doc Rivers, and he's got like.
Eight Doc Rivers is the favorite.
Well, and he can go take over Broadway again. Alfred Molina has had a fantastic run there.
But it's the the idea of what this Knicks team became. Right we we've had the conversation other than Clyde Frazier, then you have Ewing and you have obviously, Carmelo Anthony, You've got a lot of empty years in that fifty two year drought since title. So this became a well Jayalen Brunson for our memory is if not the top, Nick and folk can bristle about it, but it doesn't make it any less true because they recaptivated the imagination of people in New York, and the Knicks became a national story beyond Nick's.
Homerdom like Jason Smith or other guys that are centered in New York. Right, it became a team that I think folks enjoyed watching and certainly the fans gravitated to in New York.
Unlike anything we'd seen. Hope is a dangerous thing, no question about it.
And we've seen glimpses in the past of spilling out into the streets after you know, first round wins and what have you. But this is the first time that there was any real hope that hey, this team is actually pretty good. And to suddenly have that momentum break like a New York City Cabby getting hit. I'm walking here, I'm walking here with Tims getting fired, Like okay, now, what's the breakneck change of direction in terms of the coach and the roster going forward, because you've got an Eastern Conference has a lot of change, whether Giannis becomes a Nick or not not, you've got a balance of power shifting right. You've got Indiana that everybody's immediately saying, hey, they're gonna be around a long time. Maybe maybe not. I mean things going in weird directions in the NBA, as we've seen seven straight years that we're gonna have a different champion. Outside of the the MVP voting and Jokic with his dominance, you're seeing guys and new names rise to the forefront like SGA and others.
So there is no status quota. The Celtics they lost Jason Tatum, he ain't coming back. The Bucks if Yannis leaves, well there's no Damian Lillard to pick up the slack and they're old.
Look how old you become. All of that In the East, there's so much room. So I think for Knicks fans it was, hey, this is a team that that is set for a run, and all of a sudden it's like, well maybe not. Look at all the things that got exposed in that series. Oh and we had to get the coach shuffled out as well. By the way, there's a great picture of Tom Thibodeau circulating from when he once had great, glorious hair and it was a mullet.
Yeah, yeah, that's hey, Tims, wouldn't you like to go back and be able to tell this guy, Hey, in twenty years dude, Uh, you want to make sure Bruns is in the game at the end against the Pistons, and you want to make sure you don't blow that game winning its paces?
Wait? What what?
Who are you?
I'm from the future, Tim, You know what I mean.
I got that picture with the mullet was taken right before this season, it.
Was It was actually taken today after he got fired. I'm growing it out now.
That's what the did to him.
Now, Frostburg, you have another candidate. Don't say Doc Rivers.
Oh I won't.
Okay, don't say Doc Rivers again.
No, I've already said it. People know the mission. Get it out there, get it trending. Okay, are you sitting down?
I'm of course I'm sitting down.
Well, I don't know. You stand up. Maybe twice a day.
I'm sitting down, yeah, yeah, twice an hour. Whether I need to or not. I'll stand up twice a day.
Sure.
I think the best fit out there is Reggie Miller.
Oh would be the greatest coach ever for Miller just.
And would have nightly.
Oh Yeah, I don't know, dude. I think Spike might say, Okay, I'm turning in my season tickets. I'm not gonna come and watch Reggie.
Not gonna. Nobody told me the coach. No way.
Every every practice would be we're gonna look at video of my great eight points.
And nine seconds against the Knicks. We're gonna look at it.
Do we need to see it again?
Are we gonna practice? No?
I need to practice. You guys are good. Let's watch a video again. Right here, I steal the ball. I drove back behind the three point line. Hit Would I steal the ball again? Come back by the three point line. That's what every practice would be.
We don't need that. I don't need it.
Games or not. They want to beat the Pacers.
Of course I do. Reggie's not the guys. At least it would get him away from broadcasting big games. The Knick sern so I would would have to do. I would only have to listen to stan Van Gundy at that point, which is a big at least you get him off there. Uh du it just in big games, unlike the Lakers who were not in big games. But you want me to You don't want me to hit you between the eyes with something. Because you talked about the roster going forward, I will tell you this new head coach can look Leon Rose still running things. Obviously new head coach coming in. The Knicks know they need something different. The only guy on that roster who is safe is Jalen Brunson. Not that everybody's gonna get traded, but there is nobody on that roster that is safe besides Jalen Brunson. Everybody else can move for parts that are either going to be a more athletic, playmaking forward, a better version of a guard that could take some of the scoring pressure off of Jalen Brunson, a big that can be athletic down low and and play good defense. Nobody is safe outside of Jalen Brunson. Again, doesn't mean everybody's getting traded, they're not. But the Knicks starting five you had to cut in the throwing Mitchell Robinson as well. Look, they're all talented guys. You got some, you got some real lot talent there. Jalen Brunson is the only guy that I can tell you for certain will be on the next roster next season, because.
Anybody else can go.
It's a it's a new head coach who's going to have his own way to do things to want to bring the Knicks back defensively. Likely it's gonna be Karl Anthony Towns. I told you last night, I have no doubt that he's gonna wind up going because he was an odd fit. He will bring the most back in trade, and you could be better defensively, uh with him not out there. So but nobody else is safe. It could be Cat going with Josh Hart, could be Cat with that, Unobi could be Cat with Bridges. Nobody is safe besides Jalen Brunson. Only guy I can say yes he'll be out there next year playing for the Knicks. I'm really surprised that you haven't done at least a five to seven minute monologue of how Bridges should be traded. Well, because he did the big games against the Celtics, right. You stole the ball twice at the end, winning first two games, and he did Celtics.
That's like winning doesn't that get you a lifetime contract?
Well, when you trade five first round picks, I think that almost is a lifetime contract.
Well, but that's the thing, right, aren'chie kind of beholden?
It's like, we can't, we can't just give up on this guy. They'll eat us alive. Well they are anyway.
So you already have the Vegas misdirection of a letter telling everybody that you fired Tibbs. That was a nice statement. Did they get a non official letterhead? Yeah?
Yeah, here it is right here. Don't look at that always blue an orange too.
It looks fantastic. Thank you, TIBs. Don't mind this sword we're gonna put right for your back. You had a good run. Congratulations on getting us somewhere. We haven't been this century.
He his hair for a sec.
Yeah.
Who has more hair on their head? Tibbs or Charlie Brown?
Oh tips, he combs it over, man, Come on, you've seen the calm over for TIBs. One squiggle going up in the.
Air, barely holding on to a comeover.
I mean, maybe, and watch, you'll watch. Maybe you'll see Tim's now outside of the pressures of New York. He'll grow his hair back. He'll be like, wow, look at that New York man. Look at this he's walking around. He looks like Chevy Chase from Flets when he's playing for the Lakers and he's.
Got the all the big hair. Yeah, go come on, man, Yeah, that's it.
I get rid of the stress and my hair grew back. He would be like a walking advertisement for some sort of hair regrowth system.
Well, and then he could have billboards up and down the freeway like Irlacker does all in Illinois.
Yeah, why not?
Right, I'm Tom Timbodeau.
There's people in Chicago saying bring him back because you'll get ten years of coaches.
At this point, what do you got? Steve Kerr? Billy Donovan's like second or third I think right now in terms of longest tenur dead coaches.
What does that mean?
Stop?
Stop?
You said you weren't going to mention him. You said, no, I'm not gonna mention Doc Rivers. You gave me Reggie Miller. Come on, man, you.
Said, doctor, tell me that not a good one.
Dude.
I you know, if the Knicks were terrible and they had no hope, I would say, yeah, why not, because that would at least we'd have fun stuff, but.
No, we got dreams.
Man. I'm not gonna say it. I'm not gonna say it. Man, the Eastern Conference Finals is like years ago at this point. I'm not. I'm not. That's a lifetime ago.
I am not gonna say it. Every nick outside of Jalen Brunson is available to improve this team.
Everyone will be available.