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Greetings, Happy Thursday, Happy NFL Draft night. Yeah, the Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon. I'm anna ask man. True, the first thirty two picks of the draft are in the books. We'll get to it in a second, one, two, three, fourday He actually does count that high. I'm not gonna can't do that toa eighteen. There you go? Yeah, okay, is he the official counter? Did you guys use him during the Draft show? But something first we had talked about all week, maybe for a week and a half leading up to it, when we knew it was going to happen. Great NFL Draft live show. We just had Jenny Taft, Jay Glazer, LeVar Arrington, and former Jets GM Joe Douglas, who I got to meet. There will be a video put up on five Sports Radio Twitter account very soon, and I don't want to spoil anything, except I will say this. I can no longer drink the diet coke that I had in my hand when I walked in. You will see why. You'll see why. We'll tell you when it goes up being edited right now. We put together We got to meet Joe Douglas, got to talk to him, and and and I'm on the air and everything is fine.

Greetings, Happy Thursday, Happy NFL Draft night. Yeah, the Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon. I'm anna ask man. True, the first thirty two picks of the draft are in the books. We'll get to it in a second, one, two, three, fourday He actually does count that high. I'm not gonna can't do that toa eighteen. There you go? Yeah, okay, is he the official counter? Did you guys use him during the Draft show? But something first we had talked about all week, maybe for a week and a half leading up to it, when we knew it was going to happen. Great NFL Draft live show. We just had Jenny Taft, Jay Glazer, LeVar Arrington, and former Jets GM Joe Douglas, who I got to meet. There will be a video put up on five Sports Radio Twitter account very soon, and I don't want to spoil anything, except I will say this. I can no longer drink the diet coke that I had in my hand when I walked in. You will see why. You'll see why. We'll tell you when it goes up being edited right now. We put together We got to meet Joe Douglas, got to talk to him, and and and I'm on the air and everything is fine.

So it didn't seem like there was great animosity or at least he hit it well if he had anything, good beat for you. Very nice man. Great job by Jenny and LeVar and Jay and Joe. I mean that was just fantastic listen throughout. Obviously Jay is the information man of information man, but Jenny running point uh and seamlessly through the thirty two picks a lot of moving parts, add the trades right off the jump, chaos. I'm texting you. It was like, well, it's all happening. It's all happening just as we thought. Uh, unless it didn't still the same order just jumbled the insignias a little bit.

So it didn't seem like there was great animosity or at least he hit it well if he had anything, good beat for you. Very nice man. Great job by Jenny and LeVar and Jay and Joe. I mean that was just fantastic listen throughout. Obviously Jay is the information man of information man, but Jenny running point uh and seamlessly through the thirty two picks a lot of moving parts, add the trades right off the jump, chaos. I'm texting you. It was like, well, it's all happening. It's all happening just as we thought. Uh, unless it didn't still the same order just jumbled the insignias a little bit.

Yeah. Look I was I was a little nervous. I didn't know how it was gonna go it coming in and okay, and you know here he is former GM and the Jets and all talk about the Jets. What are we gonna how's it gonna go? And and I think, well, I don't, I don't. I don't know that he would talk to me again. But but maybe that's a you know, we let the video happ you go.

Yeah. Look I was I was a little nervous. I didn't know how it was gonna go it coming in and okay, and you know here he is former GM and the Jets and all talk about the Jets. What are we gonna how's it gonna go? And and I think, well, I don't, I don't. I don't know that he would talk to me again. But but maybe that's a you know, we let the video happ you go.

I mean we all just kind of a good back, let you do your thing. Uh, there was no judgment past. Yeah, no, that's true.

I mean we all just kind of a good back, let you do your thing. Uh, there was no judgment past. Yeah, no, that's true.

That's true.

That's true.

We're all mired, you know in our own little conversations.

We're all mired, you know in our own little conversations.

What did your team do?

What did your team do?

How'd you like my team? How was the drive in?

How'd you like my team? How was the drive in?

Uh?

Uh?

What'd you do with your extra hour while you were listening to draft coverage? Might have laid down and then your draft coverage? Sure, second screen experience. I made all those kind of things. But you got to meet Joe Douglas. I mean, I know it's been an ambition going on many a year. I have I still have like five or six questions for him. So sure when we have a return bout, we won't have any no fanboy things, journalistic questions.

What'd you do with your extra hour while you were listening to draft coverage? Might have laid down and then your draft coverage? Sure, second screen experience. I made all those kind of things. But you got to meet Joe Douglas. I mean, I know it's been an ambition going on many a year. I have I still have like five or six questions for him. So sure when we have a return bout, we won't have any no fanboy things, journalistic questions.

Listen, listen, the next bab it'll it'll be legit, and next thing it will be legit. This was hous you know this is I don't know, it's a It was kind of like I thought. The the the atmosphere is kind of like a way in before a box. That's kind of where I was a little bit thought you were gonna get hit.

Listen, listen, the next bab it'll it'll be legit, and next thing it will be legit. This was hous you know this is I don't know, it's a It was kind of like I thought. The the the atmosphere is kind of like a way in before a box. That's kind of where I was a little bit thought you were gonna get hit.

I mean, well, and I'm playing a lot of conversations on the side and then tell you guys in the middle, I'll.

I mean, well, and I'm playing a lot of conversations on the side and then tell you guys in the middle, I'll.

Tell you what. Man. I walked in and I'm like, whoa, Joe Douglas is way bigger than I am. Wow, this would not even be closed. That was something that stood out really fast. He was he was sitting in the in the in the seat right here in the studio or watching him coming in, and I'm you know, I'll tell you this. Here's a teaser. I'm wearing a Jets hoodie. You know. I had to do it for meeting Joe. Try to come in. I see everybody. Everybody stands up and Joe stands up and it's one of those when people stand up and they don't really need to move their feet because their feet are already on the ground, and I'm like, oh, wow, wow, he's a big dude. Wow. Okay, all right, then okay what uh uh okay? And then I met Joe Douglas.

Tell you what. Man. I walked in and I'm like, whoa, Joe Douglas is way bigger than I am. Wow, this would not even be closed. That was something that stood out really fast. He was he was sitting in the in the in the seat right here in the studio or watching him coming in, and I'm you know, I'll tell you this. Here's a teaser. I'm wearing a Jets hoodie. You know. I had to do it for meeting Joe. Try to come in. I see everybody. Everybody stands up and Joe stands up and it's one of those when people stand up and they don't really need to move their feet because their feet are already on the ground, and I'm like, oh, wow, wow, he's a big dude. Wow. Okay, all right, then okay what uh uh okay? And then I met Joe Douglas.

See, here's the thing, me being the five foot seven fire plug of a man that I am.

See, here's the thing, me being the five foot seven fire plug of a man that I am.

Everybody's tall.

Everybody's tall.

Yeah, so the extra two inches here there, it doesn't really matter, right, the difference between a six foot or and a seven foot You're all tall. I'm looking at yeah, and I say you are not you, But you know people six feet are taller that you're. You're all giants relative to me, So you know that that extra bit. But I could see the fear in your eyes that if things went badly, he had reach and could you out one.

Yeah, so the extra two inches here there, it doesn't really matter, right, the difference between a six foot or and a seven foot You're all tall. I'm looking at yeah, and I say you are not you, But you know people six feet are taller that you're. You're all giants relative to me, So you know that that extra bit. But I could see the fear in your eyes that if things went badly, he had reach and could you out one.

Hundred yea undred percent, one hundred percent I I mean I I mean the gun show. It was a little bit there. You know, you were bit into I like to think I'm prepared for any circumstance. That was when when he stood up, I was like, oh, wow, this is where you're bad.

Hundred yea undred percent, one hundred percent I I mean I I mean the gun show. It was a little bit there. You know, you were bit into I like to think I'm prepared for any circumstance. That was when when he stood up, I was like, oh, wow, this is where you're bad.

First step really could have cost you, really could have been problem.

First step really could have cost you, really could have been problem.

Jason Smith Mike Harmon post NFL Draft show here and what a first round we had we had fireworks early. But the biggest story, crazily because this is the NFL, right, as Jay Laser likes to shave that say, the greatest reality show in the history of the world is the NFL. And all the conversation is about a guy that didn't get taken tonight, and that Shador Sanders, who was still on the board. Mel Kiper's number one quarterback is still on the board going into the beginning of the second round. You decide you had to throw shade at Mel kip No, because here's the thing. I think he was a big deal when I felt so bad for Mel because I told you, I know, I know Mel for a long time. I haven't talked to in a few years, but when I was on ESPN, we talked all the time. And he comes out right away, Chadoor Sanders, my number one quarterback on the border and he just falls. All the way through the first round, Chador Sanders and Kuiper's talking about and other quarterbacks. I'm going, oh, I just I just feel bad at this point because here's Mel Sander. Is that No, there's a pic. It's not your door, Nope, not your door, Nope, not your door. Nope, not your door.

Jason Smith Mike Harmon post NFL Draft show here and what a first round we had we had fireworks early. But the biggest story, crazily because this is the NFL, right, as Jay Laser likes to shave that say, the greatest reality show in the history of the world is the NFL. And all the conversation is about a guy that didn't get taken tonight, and that Shador Sanders, who was still on the board. Mel Kiper's number one quarterback is still on the board going into the beginning of the second round. You decide you had to throw shade at Mel kip No, because here's the thing. I think he was a big deal when I felt so bad for Mel because I told you, I know, I know Mel for a long time. I haven't talked to in a few years, but when I was on ESPN, we talked all the time. And he comes out right away, Chadoor Sanders, my number one quarterback on the border and he just falls. All the way through the first round, Chador Sanders and Kuiper's talking about and other quarterbacks. I'm going, oh, I just I just feel bad at this point because here's Mel Sander. Is that No, there's a pic. It's not your door, Nope, not your door, Nope, not your door. Nope, not your door.

And then there were you could speak of it with conviction, Jason, and in the end you may have your evaluation on a player. That just means thirty two groups of people disagreed with you.

And then there were you could speak of it with conviction, Jason, and in the end you may have your evaluation on a player. That just means thirty two groups of people disagreed with you.

Yeah, it's true.

Yeah, it's true.

If there was thirty three, they might they might have been with you. Yeah, I mean that's what thirty three all you need? It was one you needed one more. Now before we get into the slide. There is no like if you said to me, hey, what Schadoor Sanders, like, like, if you can you can encapsulate Chador Sanders in one ten second clip, I would say to you absolutely what we saw tonight when ESPN went to their first commercial break and Chaudor Sanders hadn't been taken yet, right they they had the first couple pics. We had the big trade with the Jaguars and the Browns, which will get to in a few minutes. And you hear Mike Greenberg saying, hey, coming up and Shadora Sanders, of course, where is he gonna go? And they cut to his draft party or the where he's going to be, and it's a wide shot of a couch that's got two pillows that say legendary on them behind him in all different kinds of script and font are all words describing Shador Sanders and says legendary. It says perfect timing everywhere, which I think is a really great troll job. Right, he doesn't play on time.

If there was thirty three, they might they might have been with you. Yeah, I mean that's what thirty three all you need? It was one you needed one more. Now before we get into the slide. There is no like if you said to me, hey, what Schadoor Sanders, like, like, if you can you can encapsulate Chador Sanders in one ten second clip, I would say to you absolutely what we saw tonight when ESPN went to their first commercial break and Chaudor Sanders hadn't been taken yet, right they they had the first couple pics. We had the big trade with the Jaguars and the Browns, which will get to in a few minutes. And you hear Mike Greenberg saying, hey, coming up and Shadora Sanders, of course, where is he gonna go? And they cut to his draft party or the where he's going to be, and it's a wide shot of a couch that's got two pillows that say legendary on them behind him in all different kinds of script and font are all words describing Shador Sanders and says legendary. It says perfect timing everywhere, which I think is a really great troll job. Right, he doesn't play on time.

That was a big thing, Manah, the unnamed coach said yesterday, Sor Sanders doesn't play on time, and he's got perfect timing and money signs everywhere, all of this and huge font behind the couch and he's not in the camera. Nobody is on camera. It's an empty shot of the couch that is Shadoor Sanders. That is so on brand that I can't I can't even tell you. It's absolute perfection. This is a guy who is so full is so he's full of himself, He's full of what he can do. He is full of confidence. He has it all going on, right, all of this. And then at the same time, now I'm not gonna be on camera because you don't need to see me on camera because I call the shots. Meanwhile, maybe it's about you're not going to see me on camera the entire night free falling through the first round of the draft. But that is so on brand. Here's how I feel about my own abilities and how my team feels about my abilities. And then when they take the shot, the wide shot, there's nobody in it like whether that was by design, But that I said, that is that is Shador Sanders. That encapsulates him to a t What does it mean to be him that right there? Yeah?

That was a big thing, Manah, the unnamed coach said yesterday, Sor Sanders doesn't play on time, and he's got perfect timing and money signs everywhere, all of this and huge font behind the couch and he's not in the camera. Nobody is on camera. It's an empty shot of the couch that is Shadoor Sanders. That is so on brand that I can't I can't even tell you. It's absolute perfection. This is a guy who is so full is so he's full of himself, He's full of what he can do. He is full of confidence. He has it all going on, right, all of this. And then at the same time, now I'm not gonna be on camera because you don't need to see me on camera because I call the shots. Meanwhile, maybe it's about you're not going to see me on camera the entire night free falling through the first round of the draft. But that is so on brand. Here's how I feel about my own abilities and how my team feels about my abilities. And then when they take the shot, the wide shot, there's nobody in it like whether that was by design, But that I said, that is that is Shador Sanders. That encapsulates him to a t What does it mean to be him that right there? Yeah?

I mean you saw the tweet that was put up before the draft, I mean I sent the thing to you and our guy Justin Frossberg, who is producing the draft, show all the kind of novelty prop bets that had been out there, one of which Shador Sanders had allegedly changed his phone number, So there was a prop bet of whether teams couldn't.

I mean you saw the tweet that was put up before the draft, I mean I sent the thing to you and our guy Justin Frossberg, who is producing the draft, show all the kind of novelty prop bets that had been out there, one of which Shador Sanders had allegedly changed his phone number, So there was a prop bet of whether teams couldn't.

Get a hoe.

Get a hoe.

Yeah, yeah, because he changed his phone. Like that's how absurd things got. And then he had that little rubber room with as you described it, with all of those kind of like something out of Jared Leto's joker, Right, I'm telling tell me that wasn't exactly right there that you couldn't have seen his ass sitting on that throne right there. So all of that and a lot of build up, and even when the Giants traded up to get Jackson Dart there was the shot back to the spot is the sador Sanders.

Yeah, yeah, because he changed his phone. Like that's how absurd things got. And then he had that little rubber room with as you described it, with all of those kind of like something out of Jared Leto's joker, Right, I'm telling tell me that wasn't exactly right there that you couldn't have seen his ass sitting on that throne right there. So all of that and a lot of build up, and even when the Giants traded up to get Jackson Dart there was the shot back to the spot is the sador Sanders.

Hey, So I'll take being right about that. The Giants were going to trade back into the first round for quarterback. It was a different quarterback, but I said twenty five to thirty. They said there was gonna be one, and there it was. It's gonna be an insider. But I will say this to be to be to be serious and take this to it to a point. I am absolutely shocked. I really I am, And this is you and I have been doing this for a long time. We've been in sports for a long time. There are stunning stories. There are stories that shock you. But as you do this for a while, stuff becomes less shocking. Then it becomes more whoa jarring for a few minutes, and then you understand right, just because you do this for a long time. I am shocked that he fell all the way through the first round. I am stunned that he did not get taken. That the fall didn't stop at nine, didn't stop somewhere at fifteen with someone trading up, didn't stop with the Steelers twenty one, didn't stop with anybody coming back into the first round to get him I am stunned that this is a guy that is that good. How whatever you feel about him? Oh maybe he's not. Is he not one of the top two picks? Okay, But now it's like someone's gonna get an absolute bargain with Shadoor Sanders early in the second round. Maybe now it's the Browns. We're gonna say, hey, look at us, man, we're winning. Did we made the big trade? We got this, We're gonna get our quarterback? Like Shador Sanders is really good. And I know that people get caught up in minutia and teams were afraid to pick him. You get turned off by whatever happens in the interviews. You look at tape, you wonder how good he really is. When a quarterback's gotta be a gut feel and we've watched him all the things we've said about him for the past couple of years. He's tough, he delivers the ball, he's got confidence. There's a stuff you don't like. I understand. So maybe that prevents you from going number one and number two, But to prevent you from going in the first round, yeah, I think it's personal a little bit. And I you know, Dion's right, when he says, hey, you know, if his name wasn't Sanders, it wouldn't happen. If his name was Manning, he'd be going number one overall. I understand that.

Hey, So I'll take being right about that. The Giants were going to trade back into the first round for quarterback. It was a different quarterback, but I said twenty five to thirty. They said there was gonna be one, and there it was. It's gonna be an insider. But I will say this to be to be to be serious and take this to it to a point. I am absolutely shocked. I really I am, And this is you and I have been doing this for a long time. We've been in sports for a long time. There are stunning stories. There are stories that shock you. But as you do this for a while, stuff becomes less shocking. Then it becomes more whoa jarring for a few minutes, and then you understand right, just because you do this for a long time. I am shocked that he fell all the way through the first round. I am stunned that he did not get taken. That the fall didn't stop at nine, didn't stop somewhere at fifteen with someone trading up, didn't stop with the Steelers twenty one, didn't stop with anybody coming back into the first round to get him I am stunned that this is a guy that is that good. How whatever you feel about him? Oh maybe he's not. Is he not one of the top two picks? Okay, But now it's like someone's gonna get an absolute bargain with Shadoor Sanders early in the second round. Maybe now it's the Browns. We're gonna say, hey, look at us, man, we're winning. Did we made the big trade? We got this, We're gonna get our quarterback? Like Shador Sanders is really good. And I know that people get caught up in minutia and teams were afraid to pick him. You get turned off by whatever happens in the interviews. You look at tape, you wonder how good he really is. When a quarterback's gotta be a gut feel and we've watched him all the things we've said about him for the past couple of years. He's tough, he delivers the ball, he's got confidence. There's a stuff you don't like. I understand. So maybe that prevents you from going number one and number two, But to prevent you from going in the first round, yeah, I think it's personal a little bit. And I you know, Dion's right, when he says, hey, you know, if his name wasn't Sanders, it wouldn't happen. If his name was Manning, he'd be going number one overall. I understand that.

But that's finely good. I mean, it's track record when you look at the Mannings and.

But that's finely good. I mean, it's track record when you look at the Mannings and.

Look, arch still has a lot to prove. Right, we can put him on all the mock drafts all we want for two years from now. Guess what if he sucks, They're not drafting. He's not gonna be number one just because this surname's Manning. But the fact that you know, Archie was a damn fine player on a terrible team and got bludgeted for years, and then Peyton became what he did and Eli for all this halts. He's a Hall of Famer just no matter when, right, a couple of Super Bowls, you move on. So, yeah, there's some trust there, and one of the things being the surname of Sanders. Though he's never been coached by anybody other than Dion, Yeah, which doesn't help. Right.

Look, arch still has a lot to prove. Right, we can put him on all the mock drafts all we want for two years from now. Guess what if he sucks, They're not drafting. He's not gonna be number one just because this surname's Manning. But the fact that you know, Archie was a damn fine player on a terrible team and got bludgeted for years, and then Peyton became what he did and Eli for all this halts. He's a Hall of Famer just no matter when, right, a couple of Super Bowls, you move on. So, yeah, there's some trust there, and one of the things being the surname of Sanders. Though he's never been coached by anybody other than Dion, Yeah, which doesn't help. Right.

We've talked about it from you sports, uh you know in perspective, you know, as you were coaching your daughter whatever it was something you were concerned about, and it's something we've certainly watched other friends, family members have to deal with at some points. Understand, there's the brains that handed out. So since he's now finishing college and hasn't had that, you know, it becomes the all right, who and with Dion being the invisible hand.

We've talked about it from you sports, uh you know in perspective, you know, as you were coaching your daughter whatever it was something you were concerned about, and it's something we've certainly watched other friends, family members have to deal with at some points. Understand, there's the brains that handed out. So since he's now finishing college and hasn't had that, you know, it becomes the all right, who and with Dion being the invisible hand.

As much as you can say he's hands off, he's not, No, he's not. There's still the tentacles, which means you've got to have a coach who's willing to deal with whatever that is. It's drafting, it's drafting Lonzo Ball knowing that. Okay, LeVar Ball came with it, and look what happened. And people see this, they see the recent history in sports and okay, we did that. Is it worth it? Is it not? But now he's a bargain, right, That's the thing. Now, Shador Sanders is a bargain because now he's a first round talent, a top first round town. Look, the the analysts don't have it wrong. Again, it does seem a little personal because I've never seen criticism so over the top about how we don't like this guy, which I'm like, okay, you know what, Really everybody loved Baker Mayfield and a swagger really loved it, loved it, loved Yes, some teams loved it. I'm sure. I'm sure some teams hated it. I'm sure some teams didn't like the swagger other guys, because we've heard stories and other guys and all these other guys.

As much as you can say he's hands off, he's not, No, he's not. There's still the tentacles, which means you've got to have a coach who's willing to deal with whatever that is. It's drafting, it's drafting Lonzo Ball knowing that. Okay, LeVar Ball came with it, and look what happened. And people see this, they see the recent history in sports and okay, we did that. Is it worth it? Is it not? But now he's a bargain, right, That's the thing. Now, Shador Sanders is a bargain because now he's a first round talent, a top first round town. Look, the the analysts don't have it wrong. Again, it does seem a little personal because I've never seen criticism so over the top about how we don't like this guy, which I'm like, okay, you know what, Really everybody loved Baker Mayfield and a swagger really loved it, loved it, loved Yes, some teams loved it. I'm sure. I'm sure some teams hated it. I'm sure some teams didn't like the swagger other guys, because we've heard stories and other guys and all these other guys.

We talked about it with a little bit yesterday, and something we we've broached a few times over the last month is that how much of that becomes the interviewer.

We talked about it with a little bit yesterday, and something we we've broached a few times over the last month is that how much of that becomes the interviewer.

I can't tell you how to feel.

I can't tell you how to feel.

Right, if I'm answering a question, you can decide I'm either confident or now I'm talking down to you, or I'm you know, not respecting you. Right that how you feel about something, tone, verbiage, choice, whatever is, is on you as much as it. I mean, look, I should you know the the niceties of it all. Sure, you go through it, but in the end, I can't tell you how you feel. And that's part of what I think with Shador Sanders and with other players, I'm always curious. I'd love to be a fly on the wall, right, what was that exchange like? And how much was you decided to read into something that really wasn't there or might have been there a little bit, but it's exacerbated by your own situation.

Right, if I'm answering a question, you can decide I'm either confident or now I'm talking down to you, or I'm you know, not respecting you. Right that how you feel about something, tone, verbiage, choice, whatever is, is on you as much as it. I mean, look, I should you know the the niceties of it all. Sure, you go through it, but in the end, I can't tell you how you feel. And that's part of what I think with Shador Sanders and with other players, I'm always curious. I'd love to be a fly on the wall, right, what was that exchange like? And how much was you decided to read into something that really wasn't there or might have been there a little bit, but it's exacerbated by your own situation.

Right.

Right.

But because it wasn't like there were three guys that came out, so there was a.

But because it wasn't like there were three guys that came out, so there was a.

Few teams that said that. You don't know if part of it is the strategy of I really don't want to go to this team, so I'm going to put this out there. But when enough of that gets out there, you know it's not just a one off. It's a thing. And we talked about it last night. It's a job interview and you're trying to sell yourself and you don't want people to not give you a job, and that's kind of what happened. Team said, Okay, we're not ready to give you. We're not ready to turn our franchise over you for a first rep it now, I mean unless you and you really don't want to go back to work, but you got to check a box and get someone decided. But now second round the Browns. Okay, see, now you'll know if the Browns are tanking or not. If they take Shadora Sanders in the early party, you'll know if they're tanking. We're staying away. It's okay, what are you really going to do. But I mean that's the whole thing, is that it's it's it's gone from he's overrated to now he's a bargain. And really it's shows you that teams can get well too caught up in themselves when it comes to evaluating a guy, and you need that that that minute to step back and say, are we really evaluating him the right way? Are we really looking at him the right way?

Few teams that said that. You don't know if part of it is the strategy of I really don't want to go to this team, so I'm going to put this out there. But when enough of that gets out there, you know it's not just a one off. It's a thing. And we talked about it last night. It's a job interview and you're trying to sell yourself and you don't want people to not give you a job, and that's kind of what happened. Team said, Okay, we're not ready to give you. We're not ready to turn our franchise over you for a first rep it now, I mean unless you and you really don't want to go back to work, but you got to check a box and get someone decided. But now second round the Browns. Okay, see, now you'll know if the Browns are tanking or not. If they take Shadora Sanders in the early party, you'll know if they're tanking. We're staying away. It's okay, what are you really going to do. But I mean that's the whole thing, is that it's it's it's gone from he's overrated to now he's a bargain. And really it's shows you that teams can get well too caught up in themselves when it comes to evaluating a guy, and you need that that that minute to step back and say, are we really evaluating him the right way? Are we really looking at him the right way?

Too?

Too?

Right? I mean we we watched it throughout the rounds, like, all right, guy with injury issues, a couple of guys that have some some red letters in the the personnel file of things they've done off the field and things buzzing around them there. And but if because if you get it wrong with the quarterback, especially with the surname of Sanders in this case, yeah, you're the guy that's probably being shown the door. So you go with the safer pick, you know, you take the double instead of swinging for the home run exit.

Right? I mean we we watched it throughout the rounds, like, all right, guy with injury issues, a couple of guys that have some some red letters in the the personnel file of things they've done off the field and things buzzing around them there. And but if because if you get it wrong with the quarterback, especially with the surname of Sanders in this case, yeah, you're the guy that's probably being shown the door. So you go with the safer pick, you know, you take the double instead of swinging for the home run exit.

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The Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon, Happy Night. One of the NFL Draft thirty two picks, none of them, shoot, are Sanders in the books, and just you know, we have a lot of NFL to get to. But just want to say, NIX show, so minus one and a half man, let's go. H Now, you know I'm telling the truth about this because when I begrudgingly have to give credit to teams that are tough that you hate, you know, I'm legit. However, there is one team that has proven tonight that they're back, and they had been gone for a while, and I was happy because all the years, my whole life, it's been, oh, look how good they do it. They're an exemplary franchise. Like no, they've been a tire fire the last sixty years, and they deserve it. They're just like everybody else. But then tonight they made two incredibly big moves and now this team is back.

The Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon, Happy Night. One of the NFL Draft thirty two picks, none of them, shoot, are Sanders in the books, and just you know, we have a lot of NFL to get to. But just want to say, NIX show, so minus one and a half man, let's go. H Now, you know I'm telling the truth about this because when I begrudgingly have to give credit to teams that are tough that you hate, you know, I'm legit. However, there is one team that has proven tonight that they're back, and they had been gone for a while, and I was happy because all the years, my whole life, it's been, oh, look how good they do it. They're an exemplary franchise. Like no, they've been a tire fire the last sixty years, and they deserve it. They're just like everybody else. But then tonight they made two incredibly big moves and now this team is back.

Third pick in the twenty twenty five NFL Draft, the New York Giants select Abdul Carter, defensive end Penn State. With the twenty fifth pick in the twenty twenty five NFL drafts, the New York Giants select Jackson Dart, quarterback Mississippi.

Third pick in the twenty twenty five NFL Draft, the New York Giants select Abdul Carter, defensive end Penn State. With the twenty fifth pick in the twenty twenty five NFL drafts, the New York Giants select Jackson Dart, quarterback Mississippi.

The Giants get their dominant edge rusher at number three. And like we told you the big bold prediction that I was right about because the Cowboys by but that Travis Hunter thing kind of screwed the Cowboys moving up to five after you trade the two and five pick. I told you the Giants were going to move back into the first round for a quarterback the back of be He's twenty five thirty two. They did, maybe Schudorah Sanders, maybe Jackson Dart. Jackson Dart turned out to be the guy. This is how you do it right. You sign a guy for a year, not Atlanta Falcons, not give somebody one hundred and sixty million dollars and then say, oh, we're taking a guy at number nine. You sign a guy for a year, and then you draft your quarterback of the future at some point later on where he either takes over from Russell Wilson in the middle of the season, or Russell Wilson plays great and he keeps him on the bench, or he takes over in week three when Russell Wilson stinks. Whatever it is, that's how you do it. And the Giants look their back. They went out and got the quarterback they wanted. It worked with Eli in Mississippi, and now it's gonna work with Jackson Dart At least that's probably what Joe Shane said. But the Giants proved, Hey, they got two big playmakers in the first round of the draft. Carter is great. This is part of their identity, their defensive line. It's what made them so good a couple of years ago. Now they add to that with a premier defensive player in the draft that's not named Travis Hunter, and you get a quarterback that moved up draft charts that many analysts had as the second best quarterback in the draft. If he needs a little bit of time, he needs a little bit of time. The Giants did it right, and the Giants, unfortunately they're.

The Giants get their dominant edge rusher at number three. And like we told you the big bold prediction that I was right about because the Cowboys by but that Travis Hunter thing kind of screwed the Cowboys moving up to five after you trade the two and five pick. I told you the Giants were going to move back into the first round for a quarterback the back of be He's twenty five thirty two. They did, maybe Schudorah Sanders, maybe Jackson Dart. Jackson Dart turned out to be the guy. This is how you do it right. You sign a guy for a year, not Atlanta Falcons, not give somebody one hundred and sixty million dollars and then say, oh, we're taking a guy at number nine. You sign a guy for a year, and then you draft your quarterback of the future at some point later on where he either takes over from Russell Wilson in the middle of the season, or Russell Wilson plays great and he keeps him on the bench, or he takes over in week three when Russell Wilson stinks. Whatever it is, that's how you do it. And the Giants look their back. They went out and got the quarterback they wanted. It worked with Eli in Mississippi, and now it's gonna work with Jackson Dart At least that's probably what Joe Shane said. But the Giants proved, Hey, they got two big playmakers in the first round of the draft. Carter is great. This is part of their identity, their defensive line. It's what made them so good a couple of years ago. Now they add to that with a premier defensive player in the draft that's not named Travis Hunter, and you get a quarterback that moved up draft charts that many analysts had as the second best quarterback in the draft. If he needs a little bit of time, he needs a little bit of time. The Giants did it right, and the Giants, unfortunately they're.

Back second round pick number thirty four, number ninety nine in the third round, and a twenty twenty six third round pick for the guy that many had starting to creep up into the top ten, perhaps going to the Giants as early as three. If suddenly Mahra ordered the code red instead, they're able to get it. Joe Shane or his kid, whoever made the move, did very well because you got that foundational piece. We talked about it a lot, and it became the marching orders for this twenty twenty five draft. You only have what three to four guys that you say stars can't miss benchmark guys. You got one of those in Carter, and then you're able to come back and get your quarterback for that for that hole.

Back second round pick number thirty four, number ninety nine in the third round, and a twenty twenty six third round pick for the guy that many had starting to creep up into the top ten, perhaps going to the Giants as early as three. If suddenly Mahra ordered the code red instead, they're able to get it. Joe Shane or his kid, whoever made the move, did very well because you got that foundational piece. We talked about it a lot, and it became the marching orders for this twenty twenty five draft. You only have what three to four guys that you say stars can't miss benchmark guys. You got one of those in Carter, and then you're able to come back and get your quarterback for that for that hole.

Yeah, I mean to change it in eight, what ten slots and then give up a third rounder and a second rounder next year for a guy that could be your next franchise quarterback. It's a great move by the Giants. I'm sorry. I mean you did the right thing too, though, No, no, no, we did not. I We'll talk about.

Yeah, I mean to change it in eight, what ten slots and then give up a third rounder and a second rounder next year for a guy that could be your next franchise quarterback. It's a great move by the Giants. I'm sorry. I mean you did the right thing too, though, No, no, no, we did not. I We'll talk about.

That more, but I mean we talked about building the guts. But the Giants, coming off of last year, the laughing stock of the offseason issue and all of the bad analysis has related to Sakwan Barkley because it was terrible right in the end. They weren't going to win that many more games. But you just look like an idiot. The way you said, hey, give us a call before he signed. It didn't really go over Quiet was so well. They flipped the narrative from a year ago. This is how you ace a draft. This is how you win a draft. Now you gotta go win the rest of the rounds because you're fighting in the division except for the Cowboys.

That more, but I mean we talked about building the guts. But the Giants, coming off of last year, the laughing stock of the offseason issue and all of the bad analysis has related to Sakwan Barkley because it was terrible right in the end. They weren't going to win that many more games. But you just look like an idiot. The way you said, hey, give us a call before he signed. It didn't really go over Quiet was so well. They flipped the narrative from a year ago. This is how you ace a draft. This is how you win a draft. Now you gotta go win the rest of the rounds because you're fighting in the division except for the Cowboys.

So if there's someone who won tonight of the draft, there's got to be someone who lost tonight. And oh yeah, we're getting to that team coming up up next. Right here, Jason and Mike, you're listening to Fox Sports Radio. There was a clue right there.

So if there's someone who won tonight of the draft, there's got to be someone who lost tonight. And oh yeah, we're getting to that team coming up up next. Right here, Jason and Mike, you're listening to Fox Sports Radio. There was a clue right there.

Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven pm Pacific.

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Greetings, Welcome inside final hour tonight Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon. Uh second hour of our NFL Draft twenty twenty five post night coverage, and boy were there are a lot of fireworks tonight and it's crazy that the main topic of conversation continues to be the guy who didn't get taken at all and nat Schador Sanders, which is not surprised, Which is not surprising when you think about how well every day for the last three weeks leading up to the draft, like we told you there's gonna be a new Shador Sanders story every day. Well, you can't do a story about a guy every day that have not get taken. And then yeah, I know we're blowing past him, not gonna talk about him. He's done now, righted it up.

Greetings, Welcome inside final hour tonight Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon. Uh second hour of our NFL Draft twenty twenty five post night coverage, and boy were there are a lot of fireworks tonight and it's crazy that the main topic of conversation continues to be the guy who didn't get taken at all and nat Schador Sanders, which is not surprised, Which is not surprising when you think about how well every day for the last three weeks leading up to the draft, like we told you there's gonna be a new Shador Sanders story every day. Well, you can't do a story about a guy every day that have not get taken. And then yeah, I know we're blowing past him, not gonna talk about him. He's done now, righted it up.

But now let's talk about these You're not gonna do it because what sells if it bleeds, it leads, and.

But now let's talk about these You're not gonna do it because what sells if it bleeds, it leads, and.

Right now it's bleeding.

Right now it's bleeding.

So it's like Porzingis's head, Oh oh absolutely yeah, except without getting the bandage on it. It's like we're just gonna let it continue to bleed. It's like he got bladed, like he's Dusty Roads.

So it's like Porzingis's head, Oh oh absolutely yeah, except without getting the bandage on it. It's like we're just gonna let it continue to bleed. It's like he got bladed, like he's Dusty Roads.

Yeah, getting bladed, and I'm gonna hide the razor blade right here into my sweat. Hey. Hey, hey, sorry, I was telling come on, if the Giants were the big winners tonight and again it looks like they're back, and I hate to say this, but I have to give them credit. They flip the narrative from last offseason where they were an absolute laughing stock. We let Saquon even though Saquon Barkley was never gonna run for two thousand yards with the Giants. You watch him go to a division rival that the owner says I don't want to see him go to, and he goes there and he wins a super Bowl. So I get it. But they flip the narrative. They get the big edge rusher they need, an Abdul Carter who's terrific. They get the quarterback they need, and Jackson Dart who can develop at whatever pace you want to behind Russell Wilson. It can be long, it can be medium, it can be immediate. The Giants are back. Beating up on the Giants is not gonna last much longer. But if there's a winner of the draft, you know there's a team that's a loser now before we get to the team, because it involves youdor Sanders. Here's Sanders talking to the media not too long ago after not being selected in the first round and what he had to say about what he saw tonight and what we could wind up seeing tomorrow.

Yeah, getting bladed, and I'm gonna hide the razor blade right here into my sweat. Hey. Hey, hey, sorry, I was telling come on, if the Giants were the big winners tonight and again it looks like they're back, and I hate to say this, but I have to give them credit. They flip the narrative from last offseason where they were an absolute laughing stock. We let Saquon even though Saquon Barkley was never gonna run for two thousand yards with the Giants. You watch him go to a division rival that the owner says I don't want to see him go to, and he goes there and he wins a super Bowl. So I get it. But they flip the narrative. They get the big edge rusher they need, an Abdul Carter who's terrific. They get the quarterback they need, and Jackson Dart who can develop at whatever pace you want to behind Russell Wilson. It can be long, it can be medium, it can be immediate. The Giants are back. Beating up on the Giants is not gonna last much longer. But if there's a winner of the draft, you know there's a team that's a loser now before we get to the team, because it involves youdor Sanders. Here's Sanders talking to the media not too long ago after not being selected in the first round and what he had to say about what he saw tonight and what we could wind up seeing tomorrow.

We all didn't expect this, of course, but I feel like we god anything possible, everything possible. I don't feel like this happened, you know, for no reason. All this is is of course feud to the fire, and I don't know circumstances. We all know this sin to happen, but we understand we own the bigger and better things. Tomorrow's the day we're gonna be having regardless.

We all didn't expect this, of course, but I feel like we god anything possible, everything possible. I don't feel like this happened, you know, for no reason. All this is is of course feud to the fire, and I don't know circumstances. We all know this sin to happen, but we understand we own the bigger and better things. Tomorrow's the day we're gonna be having regardless.

That's it.

That's it.

There like that, he said we all know it shouldn't happen, then ends with legendary. It sounds like political concession. Legend Let me address you all.

There like that, he said we all know it shouldn't happen, then ends with legendary. It sounds like political concession. Legend Let me address you all.

I know, I know we didn't get the results we wanted tonight.

I know, I know we didn't get the results we wanted tonight.

That you know. That might be my new favorite phrase that involves the word legendary, because for years my favorite phrase was was after I hear it, I take get back to this. It was after the Steelers Cardinal super Bowl, right where the Steelers won. Roethlisberger takes him down to the big drive, the touchdown pass senten. So after the super Bowl, he's on set on ESPN and Steve Young is talking to him, and Steve Young says, Ben, I want to tell you when I watched what you did tonight on that last drive my heart I was like the Grinch where it grew like eight sizes. It was, it was, And Steve Young is having a tough time finding words like it's really emotional. It's a great thing. So Steve Young is like it was, it was, and Roethlisberger just says legendary. He just ruts what I was. Legendary. Yes, what we do is legendary, legendary, legend I'm sure it's on social media somewhere. So you got legendary, legendary. I hear the word.

That you know. That might be my new favorite phrase that involves the word legendary, because for years my favorite phrase was was after I hear it, I take get back to this. It was after the Steelers Cardinal super Bowl, right where the Steelers won. Roethlisberger takes him down to the big drive, the touchdown pass senten. So after the super Bowl, he's on set on ESPN and Steve Young is talking to him, and Steve Young says, Ben, I want to tell you when I watched what you did tonight on that last drive my heart I was like the Grinch where it grew like eight sizes. It was, it was, And Steve Young is having a tough time finding words like it's really emotional. It's a great thing. So Steve Young is like it was, it was, and Roethlisberger just says legendary. He just ruts what I was. Legendary. Yes, what we do is legendary, legendary, legend I'm sure it's on social media somewhere. So you got legendary, legendary. I hear the word.

Dely and I go back to a Harold Bain's home run. Boy, you really got that one. Harold there was a twenty five inning game that he ended with a home run to dead center field that just kept going and that was the way the guy set it up. And he goes, boy, you really got all that one.

Dely and I go back to a Harold Bain's home run. Boy, you really got that one. Harold there was a twenty five inning game that he ended with a home run to dead center field that just kept going and that was the way the guy set it up. And he goes, boy, you really got all that one.

Thanks for coming at that, hey, I appreciate it.

Thanks for coming at that, hey, I appreciate it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Kind of like my interview with Joe Douglas, which legendary up on social which is legendary. Fox Sports Radio on Twitter. You'll see my me getting to talk to Joe Douglas in between shows tonight. But legendary right, So I know we'll be back tomorrow. Legendary, like I love, and I want to give him a lot of credit because I didn't think we'd hear from him. I thought, the way the night is going watching him fall through the draft, we're not gonna see him on ESPN or NFL network. We're not gonna hear from at the end. They're gonna wait, it's gonna be radio silence. So I give him a lot of credit for talking about it. Still, I'm still me it shouldn't happened, Legendary, But I give him credit for talking and putting out of state. But in the end he has to right because if one of the big criticism is you don't have any bit of humility to you, your hubris is what might have been part that of what led to your fall, right pride before the fall.

Kind of like my interview with Joe Douglas, which legendary up on social which is legendary. Fox Sports Radio on Twitter. You'll see my me getting to talk to Joe Douglas in between shows tonight. But legendary right, So I know we'll be back tomorrow. Legendary, like I love, and I want to give him a lot of credit because I didn't think we'd hear from him. I thought, the way the night is going watching him fall through the draft, we're not gonna see him on ESPN or NFL network. We're not gonna hear from at the end. They're gonna wait, it's gonna be radio silence. So I give him a lot of credit for talking about it. Still, I'm still me it shouldn't happened, Legendary, But I give him credit for talking and putting out of state. But in the end he has to right because if one of the big criticism is you don't have any bit of humility to you, your hubris is what might have been part that of what led to your fall, right pride before the fall.

To stand up and and go to it. And since I use the dusty roads thing, I can't use another wrestler, so because sometimes you need to be humbled and if.

To stand up and and go to it. And since I use the dusty roads thing, I can't use another wrestler, so because sometimes you need to be humbled and if.

You know, you know. But it's it's that idea that having the speech. Now that last line kind of cuts cuts away. Yeah, but you still address the people because you got a big party, right, you had that little isolation photo photo booth like you were at prom and then I kind of like that where they stop and put the hat on. Long walk through the corridor though, like you need to be that line. You have all the logos, all tas at least.

You know, you know. But it's it's that idea that having the speech. Now that last line kind of cuts cuts away. Yeah, but you still address the people because you got a big party, right, you had that little isolation photo photo booth like you were at prom and then I kind of like that where they stop and put the hat on. Long walk through the corridor though, like you need to be that line. You have all the logos, all tas at least.

People up so you can shake some hands, take some photos.

People up so you can shake some hands, take some photos.

A long that's a long run. I'm glad. I'm glad they all decided to sprint because I'm like, if we had to watch them walk, that would boy. This draft to go like five and a half hours. It's a long way to go.

A long that's a long run. I'm glad. I'm glad they all decided to sprint because I'm like, if we had to watch them walk, that would boy. This draft to go like five and a half hours. It's a long way to go.

Are crocs really good for running? Because had those on? I mean diamond crusted because I think if you start losing jewels off those and you had to return them, I'd be a problem.

Are crocs really good for running? Because had those on? I mean diamond crusted because I think if you start losing jewels off those and you had to return them, I'd be a problem.

That's true, That's true. I mean I you know, when I saw those, I thought back, you know, when we went to California Adventure on Monday night, the whole big iHeart night. So I went into the Avengers store and they had Captain America crocks with the wings on the back. I was like, Oh, I gotta have those, but they didn't have my size. I was like, do you have any in the back? No, sir, there's no back. I'm like, what do you mean there's no back? What do you mean there's no back? Well we have it's out.

That's true, That's true. I mean I you know, when I saw those, I thought back, you know, when we went to California Adventure on Monday night, the whole big iHeart night. So I went into the Avengers store and they had Captain America crocks with the wings on the back. I was like, Oh, I gotta have those, but they didn't have my size. I was like, do you have any in the back? No, sir, there's no back. I'm like, what do you mean there's no back? What do you mean there's no back? Well we have it's out.

I thought my kids a pair that I saw online and they threatened to disown me if I bought them.

I thought my kids a pair that I saw online and they threatened to disown me if I bought them.

Oh no, you got you gotta say, you know what the yellow submarine, I do me, I do me, the Yellow Submarine crocs DJ. We're all here in Harmon's Yellow Crocks. So if there's a winner in the drag, I give shred doors Sanders a lot of crowd, and I'm sure we're gonna hear his dam again. I said it last out. I'm absolutely stunned. He felt all the way through the first round. I can't. I knew he'd fall, I thought, But at some point, hey, someone's gonna come up and the slide's gonna stop at twenty one because the Steelers clearly are gonna say, hey, look at what we did. We're getting our quarterback. You all didn't know, you all questioned me and Mike Tomlin's gonna come out, and when more CON's gonna come out, they'll be patting themselves on the back. We got our guy. We got them. Later on in the value pick, all the time, blah blah, We're gonna get you to our centers, and it's just gonna work out for the Steelers. Except when the Steelers come up at number twenty one, they decide, no, no, no, we want a guy named Harmon instead.

Oh no, you got you gotta say, you know what the yellow submarine, I do me, I do me, the Yellow Submarine crocs DJ. We're all here in Harmon's Yellow Crocks. So if there's a winner in the drag, I give shred doors Sanders a lot of crowd, and I'm sure we're gonna hear his dam again. I said it last out. I'm absolutely stunned. He felt all the way through the first round. I can't. I knew he'd fall, I thought, But at some point, hey, someone's gonna come up and the slide's gonna stop at twenty one because the Steelers clearly are gonna say, hey, look at what we did. We're getting our quarterback. You all didn't know, you all questioned me and Mike Tomlin's gonna come out, and when more CON's gonna come out, they'll be patting themselves on the back. We got our guy. We got them. Later on in the value pick, all the time, blah blah, We're gonna get you to our centers, and it's just gonna work out for the Steelers. Except when the Steelers come up at number twenty one, they decide, no, no, no, we want a guy named Harmon instead.

With the twenty first pick in the twenty twenty five NFL Draft, Hobo, the Pittsburgh Steelers select well Derek Harman, defensive tackle Oregon Harmon.

With the twenty first pick in the twenty twenty five NFL Draft, Hobo, the Pittsburgh Steelers select well Derek Harman, defensive tackle Oregon Harmon.

Jersey's on order, baby Harmon out of Oregon. Let's go Arman, Arman. And I love the Steelers' reaction after is They said, hey, we didn't take it, we didn't take a quarterback. But Gmomark said, no, no, we weren't tempted. We were on the clock. We got the player that we wanted. That's the guy they went, Okay at twenty one, all right, not not in the top five, not one of the top five. Pay we got a guy at twenty one, a guy that we wanted. All right. Let's just understand for a second. The Steelers are the big losers of the draft tonight, and at this if it was any other team, fans would be rioting. We have Mason Rudolph and Skyler Thompson, are our quarterbacks. This is now the second year in a row you decided to go bargain basement dumpster diving for quarterbacks. It didn't work last year. And yet you treat the quarterback position, which is, oh, by the way, last time I checked, hang on, still the most important position on the football legend still there, legendary going back to Ben Roethlisberger, of course, still the most important position on the football field, and the Steelers are treating it like it's a necessary evil at this point, Omar Khan, Mike Tomlin, unless they have a rabbit they're gonna pull out of the hat, unless they have some sort a secret plan that none of us know about and they pull it off. I mean it's time to say, guys, I think the NFL has passed you by. It's time for new leadership. It's time for a new GM and a new head coach because you've decided to take the most of it. The only thing your team needs, the only thing you need is a quarterback. And you've decided, now going on the last three since you replaced Roethlisberger, we're gonna go really bargain basement on this like that again, this is any other team, And it's what are they? This is malpractice, this is NFL. If the Jets did this, what people say? If the Raiders did this, what would people say? But the Steelers are they know No, Clearly the Steelers don't know what they're doing because they they have no plan. As far as how do we win in the NFL in twenty twenty five, Mike Tomlin still thinks I'm gonna win like it's nineteen eighty seven where he had a couple of running backs are and to give the ball a lot to we got a couple of weapons at wide receiver, Well throw it when we need to. We're gonna play great defense, and that's how we're gonna win. It's not how it works. And and for Tomlin, you would think last year would have been a bit of an ego check that. Okay, I went all in on Russell. No, Russell's our guy. Remember all last year there's a reason why Russell Wilson, Russell Wilson, Russell Wilson. No, no, no, no, no, no, Russell Wilson, Russell Wilson, and what happened gone. He was a reason why you were terrible down the stretch, and you were you were just running on vapors. At the end, you had a quarterback that had one games for you, none that we're gonna stick with Justin Fields. No, not that Justin Fields might have done more, but you went in saying, hey, we're gonna bargain basement Justin Fields and bargain basement Russell Wilson, and that's gonna work. Okay, it didn't work. Okay, let's let me learn my lesson. Let's make sure we get a quarterback. Nope, nope, nope, we're gonna bring back Mason Rudolph and we're gonna have Skylett Thompson. And that's it, I mean, barring again, a secret plan that none of us know about. I mean, I'm not on Pete Heggs's signal shots, so maybe that's on there. But unless you unless, unless you have that, this is absolutely I mean, this is how to not run a football team. No, and that's the curiosity. Obviously, they've got to look at their defensive interior. Guys are getting a little longer in the tooth, right, Hayward.

Jersey's on order, baby Harmon out of Oregon. Let's go Arman, Arman. And I love the Steelers' reaction after is They said, hey, we didn't take it, we didn't take a quarterback. But Gmomark said, no, no, we weren't tempted. We were on the clock. We got the player that we wanted. That's the guy they went, Okay at twenty one, all right, not not in the top five, not one of the top five. Pay we got a guy at twenty one, a guy that we wanted. All right. Let's just understand for a second. The Steelers are the big losers of the draft tonight, and at this if it was any other team, fans would be rioting. We have Mason Rudolph and Skyler Thompson, are our quarterbacks. This is now the second year in a row you decided to go bargain basement dumpster diving for quarterbacks. It didn't work last year. And yet you treat the quarterback position, which is, oh, by the way, last time I checked, hang on, still the most important position on the football legend still there, legendary going back to Ben Roethlisberger, of course, still the most important position on the football field, and the Steelers are treating it like it's a necessary evil at this point, Omar Khan, Mike Tomlin, unless they have a rabbit they're gonna pull out of the hat, unless they have some sort a secret plan that none of us know about and they pull it off. I mean it's time to say, guys, I think the NFL has passed you by. It's time for new leadership. It's time for a new GM and a new head coach because you've decided to take the most of it. The only thing your team needs, the only thing you need is a quarterback. And you've decided, now going on the last three since you replaced Roethlisberger, we're gonna go really bargain basement on this like that again, this is any other team, And it's what are they? This is malpractice, this is NFL. If the Jets did this, what people say? If the Raiders did this, what would people say? But the Steelers are they know No, Clearly the Steelers don't know what they're doing because they they have no plan. As far as how do we win in the NFL in twenty twenty five, Mike Tomlin still thinks I'm gonna win like it's nineteen eighty seven where he had a couple of running backs are and to give the ball a lot to we got a couple of weapons at wide receiver, Well throw it when we need to. We're gonna play great defense, and that's how we're gonna win. It's not how it works. And and for Tomlin, you would think last year would have been a bit of an ego check that. Okay, I went all in on Russell. No, Russell's our guy. Remember all last year there's a reason why Russell Wilson, Russell Wilson, Russell Wilson. No, no, no, no, no, no, Russell Wilson, Russell Wilson, and what happened gone. He was a reason why you were terrible down the stretch, and you were you were just running on vapors. At the end, you had a quarterback that had one games for you, none that we're gonna stick with Justin Fields. No, not that Justin Fields might have done more, but you went in saying, hey, we're gonna bargain basement Justin Fields and bargain basement Russell Wilson, and that's gonna work. Okay, it didn't work. Okay, let's let me learn my lesson. Let's make sure we get a quarterback. Nope, nope, nope, we're gonna bring back Mason Rudolph and we're gonna have Skylett Thompson. And that's it, I mean, barring again, a secret plan that none of us know about. I mean, I'm not on Pete Heggs's signal shots, so maybe that's on there. But unless you unless, unless you have that, this is absolutely I mean, this is how to not run a football team. No, and that's the curiosity. Obviously, they've got to look at their defensive interior. Guys are getting a little longer in the tooth, right, Hayward.

Toward the end, I think you're just mad that it wasn't a guy named Smith, and that it was a guy named Harmon, and that.

Toward the end, I think you're just mad that it wasn't a guy named Smith, and that it was a guy named Harmon, and that.

Really cheesed you. No, No, I don't care. I think you're a little salty if you need to be Smith, I mean, who are they gonna take Smith? You're gonna trade for Gino Smith? Gee, Geena ge Gino's got to I'm glad. I'm glad that got hard. But now, but you gotta be okay with people in Pittsburgh going, oh, you know, I just can't stand Harmon. We could have had Shador Sanders and now we could had Harmon blank Harmon. I hate that guy, can't you Let's do the radio show he's on because his name is Harmon. I'm gonna go out of lamb.

Really cheesed you. No, No, I don't care. I think you're a little salty if you need to be Smith, I mean, who are they gonna take Smith? You're gonna trade for Gino Smith? Gee, Geena ge Gino's got to I'm glad. I'm glad that got hard. But now, but you gotta be okay with people in Pittsburgh going, oh, you know, I just can't stand Harmon. We could have had Shador Sanders and now we could had Harmon blank Harmon. I hate that guy, can't you Let's do the radio show he's on because his name is Harmon. I'm gonna go out of lamb.

And there have been a bunch of folks that have already said that in Pittsburgh for many, many a year with my guy's touching wolf for in Pittsburgh both no, no longer with us, so good thoughts there. But when we look at what the Steelers they've been linked to, potentially Kirk Cousins, you still have the balloon floating out of whether Aaron Rodgers shows up or not.

And there have been a bunch of folks that have already said that in Pittsburgh for many, many a year with my guy's touching wolf for in Pittsburgh both no, no longer with us, so good thoughts there. But when we look at what the Steelers they've been linked to, potentially Kirk Cousins, you still have the balloon floating out of whether Aaron Rodgers shows up or not.

And again, if he wanted to be there, he would be there, right, I believe donas right Davont Adam said the best thing when he said, hey, what's Aaron waiting for? Because he and he and Aaron are tight. He's waiting for someone to show that they love him, right, because that's what Aaron Rodgers watch. Sure, that's sure is nothing. That was the biggest truth bomb that we saw all last week. And are the Steelers showing Aaron Rodgers that they is anybody showing Rogers that they love him? No, So if you don't love me, I'm gonna sit out here and maybe my career is done, but I'm gonna come back. You gotta love me. And the Steelers aren't suddenly gonna love him. They could have loved him a few weeks ago. They're not gonna suddenly love him now. It's not gonna happen.

And again, if he wanted to be there, he would be there, right, I believe donas right Davont Adam said the best thing when he said, hey, what's Aaron waiting for? Because he and he and Aaron are tight. He's waiting for someone to show that they love him, right, because that's what Aaron Rodgers watch. Sure, that's sure is nothing. That was the biggest truth bomb that we saw all last week. And are the Steelers showing Aaron Rodgers that they is anybody showing Rogers that they love him? No, So if you don't love me, I'm gonna sit out here and maybe my career is done, but I'm gonna come back. You gotta love me. And the Steelers aren't suddenly gonna love him. They could have loved him a few weeks ago. They're not gonna suddenly love him now. It's not gonna happen.

Once you get out of the draft and you start getting in new offseason workouts in earnest, then then maybe your affections will start taking on the form of I don't know Michael Rappaport in Beautiful Girls, because until he was faced with the idea that he was gonna lose his girl, he ain't care. And then all of a sudden he got the newest type of diamond. They called it champagne and things Brown. Okay, thanks Brown, And that's what it might take for con and for for Mike tom and just to realize they need to get the Brown rock. I mean, they bring Aaron Rodgers along.

Once you get out of the draft and you start getting in new offseason workouts in earnest, then then maybe your affections will start taking on the form of I don't know Michael Rappaport in Beautiful Girls, because until he was faced with the idea that he was gonna lose his girl, he ain't care. And then all of a sudden he got the newest type of diamond. They called it champagne and things Brown. Okay, thanks Brown, And that's what it might take for con and for for Mike tom and just to realize they need to get the Brown rock. I mean, they bring Aaron Rodgers along.

They're absolutely mismanaging the quarterback Again. I do have to say it's the draft isn't over yet. We still have some time to go. Kirk Cousins is still out there. There could be some things happening. You could wait and see where quarterbacks wind up going tomorrow because tomorrow is going to be the day for Milroe and Sanders and you know, Okay, so there's that. Okay, Kyle McCourt shot, Okay, that's fine. But right now I look at the Steelers like really like there needs to be an intervention. But you understand this is the And I get that you had a rough time, Mike tom On dealing with Le'Veon Bell and Antonio Brown, and you had Ben Roethlisberger for over a decade, I'm sure, but this is how you win in the NFL. You can't do it the way you've been trying to do.

They're absolutely mismanaging the quarterback Again. I do have to say it's the draft isn't over yet. We still have some time to go. Kirk Cousins is still out there. There could be some things happening. You could wait and see where quarterbacks wind up going tomorrow because tomorrow is going to be the day for Milroe and Sanders and you know, Okay, so there's that. Okay, Kyle McCourt shot, Okay, that's fine. But right now I look at the Steelers like really like there needs to be an intervention. But you understand this is the And I get that you had a rough time, Mike tom On dealing with Le'Veon Bell and Antonio Brown, and you had Ben Roethlisberger for over a decade, I'm sure, but this is how you win in the NFL. You can't do it the way you've been trying to do.

It well the last few years. Just an abject failure in that regard, but they win games, so they would tell you the proof is in the record, right, You're as good as your record is. You don't have to make it so hard.

It well the last few years. Just an abject failure in that regard, but they win games, so they would tell you the proof is in the record, right, You're as good as your record is. You don't have to make it so hard.

No, but the Steelers is not about hey, here's a record and we get and make it to the playoffs. That's the Jets, right, that's the that's the Raiders. Hey we win, we make it to the playoffs. Oh my god, it's amazing. But that's what they become the Steelers. But it's still this, Hey, we're we're the one of the top two or three franchises of the entire game. And success for US as AFC championships and Super Bowls. Now, maybe they don't realize they haven't been there in a while, but that's still the measuring bar of success. And now, okay, now you're telling me, oh, for the Steelers being over five hundred and maybe getting in and losing a playoff game, that's success not for them, but of late, they're just a better version of the Raiders. Oh wow, Now you're trading on stuff that happened many, many years ago. People in Pittsburgh gonna love you after that. You're done, madamn, right, Because sometimes as ty Shirt's original podcast seven iterations ago was called you need a reality check.

No, but the Steelers is not about hey, here's a record and we get and make it to the playoffs. That's the Jets, right, that's the that's the Raiders. Hey we win, we make it to the playoffs. Oh my god, it's amazing. But that's what they become the Steelers. But it's still this, Hey, we're we're the one of the top two or three franchises of the entire game. And success for US as AFC championships and Super Bowls. Now, maybe they don't realize they haven't been there in a while, but that's still the measuring bar of success. And now, okay, now you're telling me, oh, for the Steelers being over five hundred and maybe getting in and losing a playoff game, that's success not for them, but of late, they're just a better version of the Raiders. Oh wow, Now you're trading on stuff that happened many, many years ago. People in Pittsburgh gonna love you after that. You're done, madamn, right, Because sometimes as ty Shirt's original podcast seven iterations ago was called you need a reality check.

And you need to remember you can't just keep living in the past.

And you need to remember you can't just keep living in the past.

Damn it. He just said, we were a little bit better than the Raiders. I wanna go find that guy. I'm gonna go, you know, I'm gonna go buy something from memorabilia and sell it to them. I'm gonna rip the cart and mailed to him and go on. I shouldn't have said that about our guys, but he said, are we really contenders? Are we not? Well?