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Published Apr 26, 2025, 6:15 AM

Another Steelers pick, still no Shedeur Sanders. Jason and Mike with all the latest on Shedeur Sanders free fall.-And Jason explains why he absolutely loves the Jalen Milroe pick for the Seahawks. Plus, a visit from the great Pete Fiutak!

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Yeah, the hug was a little bit of a diversion of what I thought was gonna happen, you know, a nice hearty and laurel handshake.

Well thet's say something like that, but you.

Went into the really big dude like he was a real like when he stood up in the studio and I was wild. You can see this video. It's up on social media at Fox Sports Radio on Twitter. I put it up as well at how about a Fresca, Like when he stands up, I'm like, oh, he's not just standing up, and he's like no, he's standing up, and he's like eight inches to I'm five nine. He's like eight inches taller, or at least he seemed like he was that much taller. I'm like, oh, hey, Joe, how you do buddy fuddy larger than my personality and effect and impact on your life, perhaps more so than almost anybody non family.

Related in your life over the last decade, Joe Douglas.

So you had that meeting in that moment, Yeah, I see, here's the thing.

Like Seger's nod his head eager, like sometimes.

Sometimes my hang on that. Sometimes my dad can fall down the list a little bit, like you know, it's okay. I mean maybe Joe Douglas sometimes can be above.

Him, you know, I used the term family like a lower d F and you can decide who slides in and outs.

What do you got, Frostburg.

Joe Douglas may or may not be pressing charges against you for that?

Yeah, what's the statute of limitations on such a thing?

He's fine, he signed my Diet Cookee, he signed my Garrett.

Wilson say this now, but is he really well?

I mean, if I inserted him into an NYPD Blue scene where he has to talk to Simone and simple wins Man, how.

Does that go.

I gotta see paperwork before I think that thing is real. Come on, I just got to I'm gonna walk around. Someone's gonna go because now I know from watching TV so often, Like if I walk around and a really attractive woman comes up to me and goes, excuse me, are you Jason Smith, I'm gonna say nope, nope, because I know I'm gonna say would say, yeah, you've been served, ah, because it works in the TV all the time. Are you? Are you Harry Bosch? Yes, I you've been served Harry Jason Smith. Nope, not me.

I really thought you were going to take a different tact with the attractive woman.

Coming up and say, hey, are you Jason Smith and a side?

We're talking about, you know, evening rates and all this kind of stuff, and suddenly you're in the Who's Gown?

I know things now to people, what what are you ninety years old? In the Who's Gow?

I celebrate all decades and I watch a lot of TV and movies that span the years, just like our very air, udite and uh knowledgeable audience.

Audience.

I saw Farley Granger War Movie and I wanted to say I thought he was better than John Wayne.

Hey, I could speak up to the most elite intellectuals of our audience. Boy, I could get down as low as we need to as well. My south side eas is ready for a Friday Night.

So where do we sit right now? Round three of the NFL Draft in progress. And if you told me any time before the draft began that we'd be on the air on Friday night, on the air Friday night, middle of the third round and Shadoor Sanders would still be on the board, I would have said, you're crazy. Could I see him falling in the first round through the first eight or nine picks? Yeah? Would I see him falling past like twenty or twenty one. No way out of the first round. That's never gonna happen out of the second round. Come on, man, I know football. Yet here we are in the third round, seventy seven picks have gone and still no Shadoor Sanders. And if you're looking at where there could be a landing spot for him later on in the third round, the Steelers still pick again, but again the Steelers had picked, they passed them by. The Saints pick again, they've passed him by the Browns. I believe the Browns have had seven selections so far in the first for two and a half rounds. They've passed him by every single time. So in theory, there's three or four spots where you could get him, but you could have got him before and now you're not gonna get him. And Shador Sanders is still on the board. As stunned as I was that he dropped through the fre cause I thought that, really, I mean, so few things stunned me long term in sports, because you've been doing this for so long. Like I said, okay, falling through the front, no way, No, my god, he did, And I still couldn't believe it going to bed last night, him like this is absolutely insane. Yet here we are. And the big lesson that you're going to learn from this, the big lesson coming out of the draft is that the optics you put out there in the off season interviews talking to teams, they matter teams. Now you know how much swagger and confidence NFL teams are comfortable with in a potential franchise quarterback because shadoors. But he's in every mock draft near the top. No one's doing this as a you know, look, I heard the Dan Patrick promo. No one's doing this as a favorite of Dion Sanders, putting him the top of the mocked Everybody wants to be right right now. What would a mock drafter rather be right on? Hey, I got your door Sanders in the third round or I got it at the third overall pick. No, they want to be right right. No one's getting it wrong. Mel Kiper has been evaluating college football players for forty years. Is he that wrong about your door Sanders? No, it's not that wrong. The talent, what he's put on tape, what's on the field is terrific. You've heard a lot analysts say, listen, it's everything he does on the field. He's good enough to have been drafted by now. But again there's only so much swagger and confidence and out and out just just ego centric behavior that teams are willing to put up with, because that's really what you see. Look the guy at his draft party last night, but the words legendary in perfect time all behind him, you know, on a wall, like he's I'm all ready to go, Like I got my branding is already need to go, ready to go. And what happens is you go in, you interview, and you hear the stories. Yeah, worst interview I ever had, and you haven't heard that he and you also heard before that he had bad interviews with teams. So you know, what else can you draw other than hey, what you put out there, we're not comfortable with and for and and always have to remember. And we talked about this a few nights ago. Congratulations to that take that was everywhere today when we talked about the last two the last three nights. Really is that it's a job interview. Just like you and I going in for job interviews, you go in and put your best foot forward. You don't go in and start talking about, Look, I'm a change this company the minute I walk in here. Well, really, yes I did. This is an entry level position, so yeah, I know, but I'm gonna have your job in five years. And look, I got ideas. Everywhere I've ever been, everywhere I've ever worked, I've turned them around. I've turned that place around. Sir, you worked at Blockbuster Video and a guess well you actually you repaired tires in good Year for three days, actually two days. I quit. I didn't like that job, which is that that's me after college?

Uh?

Yeah, no no, but I turn those places around. When you think of a job interview, is that how you go in? Is that how you go in and meet teams? I get you want to be yourself and you want to show that hey I'm confident and I can win. But you want to put out the best version of yourself. You want to put your best foot forward. You don't do stuff like this during job interviews. You don't do it when you're trying to meet somebody. If I see a girl that I like, Wow, I really like her, and if I go over to talk to her, I go, hey, you know what, drop the zero and get with the hero. I'm not doing that because that's probably not a turn on, all right, but that's me. But that's who I am. Yeah, I get it. But put out the best version of yourself because you can say this is who I am. And that's great because you know yourself. But guess what, all these other teams, all these other they don't know you. They don't know and they would, okay, if we're gonna go in and make you a franchise quarterback, because that's what you are, we want to know that what comes along with it we're gonna be okay with. We want to know that we're walking into a situation where you're gonna be coachable. You're gonna be able to be someone that that takes direction, doesn't blame the offensive line if you get sacked a bunch of times, which we saw. We want to call some of your former coaches, but the only coach you ever had is your dad, So we're gonna call him and he's gonna tell us things about you. Like this shows you how what the optic you put out there and the impression of the personality is a really really big deal. And you can stretch and push the boundaries to how much swagger and that teams like and I think we saw that it's somewhere between what Baker Mayfield showed when he came in and where Johnny Maniel was and Shad George Sanders is like somewhere in the middle, Like, dude, you have to go out there and it's a job interview. It's trying to meet someone. It's putting that image out there that yes, you can trust me being the face of a billion dollar franchise. That's what people want to know. And it was obvious, Hey, it's easy to get scared in the NFL draft, and everybody's been scared of that. Because of that, the optics and what you do personally matters so so much.

All right, So he was plus one sixty five to get out of the first round. That was pre you know Goodell walking to the podium for the first time yesterday.

Our teammate Jeff Schwartz, he does the.

Obviously former NFL player and now does betting work on our Countdown show on the weekend, he said he was trying to get a bunch of money down because it was Hey, Chador won't drafted in the second round.

Was one hundred to one. Well, here we are.

So it's that kind of thing where you're.

Trying to parsh through the noise. Now I feel bad.

You know, you got Kuyper and Klatt and so many others unless you were really expecting to be invited to the next birthday party or something. I don't know what's good, what it is. They've all feel like it's a big personal affront to them. Rants and raves about Shador. I don't know between the interviews what his teammates had to say. I gotta imagine you had a couple of offensive lineman that had some choice words for him along the way. Right as you go into all that deep background stuff. I'm not saying there's anything untowarding criminal and whatever else is some have tried to suggest and stuff. We talked about it last night. He's never been coached by someone other than Dion. Maybe there's a little bit of that. If we take the pie chart and you start parsing away, then you were trying to explain it at this point. I thought he did enough to where you would have gotten a shot at this point. Clearly, thirty two war rooms disagree on many opportunities. Right Schwetzinger walk on at UCLA to a top tackler he's their first pick in the second round, and everybody immediately looks around, going, oh, here we go now as Robin Kelvin we're finishing up. The Jets made their selection and we were really hoping that it was going to be Shador there didn't do one thing, Aaron Glenn, I know the Jets aren't going to take you to a Sanders because he is not about what could be a circus.

He's trying to create a culture. And if you know, are we doing I just told you how much we love Justin Fields and believe in them. Now we're telling them, oh yeah, now do we don't? Yeah?

No, I it was just more for the funt of the show, just getting on and watching you lose your mind one way or another.

But no, I want Kyle McCord. I want Kyle. I want day three, Kyle McCord. You know me. That's what I know.

I know, I know, buddy, it's still it's still out there for you. But it's just the the idea with you or trying to parse through the noise. And unless you're gonna get honest answers from everybody with their names attached, you're never gonna find out.

No, exactly what I think. It's pretty easy. Look coming off the season, where was Shador Sander's boy? Chador Sanders cam Ward one? Two? Yeah, but that's all me, okay, but tell me to evaluate her meeting coming off what we saw in the college football season, and talent evaluators are consistently evaluating throughout the college football season.

But what I'm saying, no, no, no, But what I'm saying is the people in the war rooms, they're not telling them, Hey, second.

Coming off the season, and what was it? And this is from analyst and dress, Hey, not a lot of daylight between cam Ward Shador Sanders. It could go either way. These guys are both incredibly talented. When did we start seeing Shador Sanders slide down draft picks in the offseason when players are going out doing interviews, talking to other teams, and we got the stories of the combine that shaduor Sanders didn't make a lot of friends, didn't impress a lot of teams. That storyline continued, So that's suddenly when he started dropping. It's not a he doesn't go from having from being a guy that is me basically indistinguishable from cam Ward to oh I never had a first round grade. He wasn't that good to begin with. Now that doesn't happen. That doesn't happen because oh I went back and looked at the tape and oh boy, I got it so wrong. Because what you're saying is that they got they didn't just get it wrong and say, well, here's Aaron Rodgers who we thought was gonna go number one, but he slid the twenty four. Right, this is a guy that's got could go number one and number two and he's still on the board middle of the third round. Like, guys don't get it that wrong, right, They don't get it that there's wrong and there's a margin of error, and there's getting it this wrong, and guys don't get it this wrong.

Well, the last thing, really really quick, was that he had all the opportunities to also go and work out in front of folks, and he chose not to right combine and everything else, could have gone and competed and done all of that, and just said I don't need to. I don't know how well that goes over, telling.

Me, man, the optics matter what you do in the office, what it matters. This is the he's the shunning example. Of Wow. I got to make sure I make myself out to be an asset whoever's gonna draft me. I can't just be hey, full steam ahead, I'm full of myself. I mean, you can't do it. This is the evidence. This is the evidence, and we're just getting started. Fox Sports Radio, Jason Smith, Mike Harmon. Tonight shoe brought to you by Dollar Shave Club, your place to get everything you need to stay smooth and smell great. Visit dollarshaveclub dot com. Slash draft use promo code Draft for twenty percent off your order of twenty bucks or more, plus free shipping. Well coming up next. Yes, we'll continue to keep you posted on when and if Shador Sanders comes off the board in the third round. A big night in the NBA playoffs Lakers and Tea Wolves just underway. But straight ahead, how about we start getting to some of our favorite picks of the draft so far, not the big pick, the not the big top of the first round picks, our favorite picks of the first round, and since I think some of them are going to surprise you, right here, Jason and Mike ed He's one of them. Jason and Mike Fox Sports radio Life in general can be chaotic, like trying to keep track of this draft and Whnshi door Sanders is going to go. But if you're in charge of order fulfillment for an e commerce business, you know that's its own special kind of chaos. But with shipstation, you can count on your day to day remaining calm, save hours and money every month by shipping from all your stores with one loggin, automating repetitive tasks, and finding the best rates among all the global carriers. You can focus on other parts of your business because you never have to worry about shipping and fulfillment again. With shipstation, it's the fastest, most affordable way to ship products to your customers, with discounts up to eighty eight percent off PS, DHL Express and USPS rates and to ninety percent off FedEx rates. Over one hundred and thirty thousand companies have grown their e commerce businesses with Shipstation, and ninety eight percent of companies that stick with Shipstation for a year become customers for life. Calm the chaos of order fulfillment with the shipping software that delivers switch to ship station today. Go to shipstation dot com and use the code Sports to sign up for your free trial. That's shipstation dot com. Code Sports.

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The Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Carmon. Express Employment Professionals can provide contract workers to flex up for peak seasons without having to raise your core workforce headcount. Manage your workforce differently. Visit expresspros dot com today, that's expresspros dot Com. We'll get to our some of our favorite picks in the draft so far coming up in a couple of minutes. Again, some of are gonna really surprise you. But boy, there have been so many great selections, especially some under the radar in the first round and beyond. But the Steelers were on the clock. This was gonna be potentially where the slide for Shador Sanders was going to end. Was gonna be over. It's over, Johnny, It's going to end. It was gonna end. Okay, the Steels, all right, they made another move. They decided not, well, here is where it's gonna end. This is where Shador Sanders comes off the board. What a bargain he would be here in the middle of the third round. The Steelers get a quarterback because they absolutely need a quarterback. Did Shador Sanders get taken? Let's take a listen to Lynn Swan who makes the selection for the Steelers, thank you very much. With the any third pick in the NFL Draft. The Pittsburgh Steelers looking to be dominant once again. So lot Caleb Johnson running back.

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Now I do want to say this. I gotta say something really good for the Steelers before I just absolutely rip them to shreds. Lynn Swan strong ring, game, strong ring. Lynn Swan is wearing every one of his Super Bowl rings from the seventies and early eighties, and they are gleaming like they Lynn Swan looked like Fanos, Like look at when he when he would put the when he would go on at litz that the gemstones in and he would turn around like Lynn Swan's rings were. He was like Fannos without the glove. Ah, yes, all of this. Here's the Super Bowl stone and here's the quarterbacks. So wait, quarterbackstone is not working, hang on, hang on, but look at these other stones. Really really strong ring game for Lyndzwa.

I would say this, every time one of those Steelers from the seventies gets up in front of a podium, they should go on a forty five minute rant for the respect they don't get about how great that team was from Terry Bradshaw on down. Nobody gives them any love outside of Pittsburgh on the grand scheme of it, like those guys No No and Lynn Swanna and certainly among them. So I love that he had the.

Gauntlet on, oh so strong and gleaming like I really wanted him to show the rings that do the thanos, Like when he closes his eyes, all the power that's running.

Starts shaking.

So if the Steelers weren't looking to be dominant once again, they probably would have taken door there right.

Yeah, I don't know that I would have said that if I was. That's my favorite part of it, Lynn Swan, I don't know that I would have. I really I don't know that I would have said that. I really don't know, because here's the thing is that, honestly, we've talked about the Steelers right at this point, you need some kind of NFL intervention because it just looks like with every passing day the NFL has passed Omar Kahn and Mike tomlin by they continue to take the most important position on the NFL field and turn it into a necessary evil that we're gonna fill. Yeah. I'll take care of that at some point. Okay, okay, that's great. That's like owning a house and you don't have a roof, but you need a little bit of repair to the refrigerator, and you need there's a little bit of a dry rot in the corner of the living room, and the Steelers like, hey, hey, that dry rot. You let that expand. Boy, that's a now progressive commercial. You let that dry rot expand. That's gonna get all the way into the rest of your wall. You want to take care of that, man. Yeah, the refrigerator, Hey, refrigerator is not working.

You're not.

You gotta take care of that. There's no roof on top of the house, and no, I will get to that. We got we got a really you know, I got a really cheap guy coming in that can do roofs. He's just gonna take a bunch of toilet paper, just put a whole bunch. I mean, we're gonna get like rolls levels of toilet paper, Like, not just one level, We're gonna have like six or seven levels of toilet paper on that and that's gonna cover the house. Like. This is what the Steelers are doing, the most important position on the field. They have decided, Yeah, last year, we're gonna try to get by with bargain bin basement guys because Mike Tomlin clearly his philosophy is, I don't need an elite quarterback to win. Look at how smart I am, look at how we can win. So it's justin fields and Russell Wilson. Did that work?

No?

Okay? So this is when normally the next year you go, okay, okay, we took a chance, took a chance, get it all right, We got to go the other direction. Now we gotta go out and make sure we get a quarterback. There's guys out there to go get. Maybe we go win on Sam Darnold. Maybe we try to trade for Kirk Cousins. Maybe maybe maybe, And instead here they are Aaron Rodgers is sitting out. He would be a Steeler if he really wanted to be, So you know he's not coming. Okay, let's go into the draft and get what we get anybody else in free agency. Nope, not gonna get anybody. We're gonna bring back Mason Rudolph. Okay, that's great. Okay, Now we're going to the NFL Draft. What do we need? Most need a quarterback? Okay, what do we do the first couple of picks? We have no quarterback? Like, I don't know what their plan is. I don't know how unless they pull a rabbit out of the hat. Unless they have a secret plan that nobody else knows and they're waiting to unveil it somehow, that's gonna involve them getting Mahomes unless that happens. I don't know what the Steelers are doing. I mean, hey and me, I don't care. I feel like it's one less team I got to compete with for the Super Bowl, right because the Steelers everything else every year is pretty button down. Their defense is always really good, they always run the football right, their weapons are good enough. But hey, this is what we're doing with the quarterbacks, so it's great. Great, I'm glad. I'm glad you're doing this. It's one less team I have to worry about. But honestly, this is such NFL malpractice. It's the most important position, and they decided, yeah, we'll get to it, and we get to it. Like any other team, they'd be the laughing stock of the NFL. If this was the Jets or the Raiders or the Jets, or the Cardinals or the Jets, everybody would be laughing. Or the Browns or the Jets. Everybody's like, But the Steelers, all, Hey, what are they gonna do? They gonna no, No, it's time to call it for what it is. This is absolute mismanagement and I really don't get the Steelers philosophy.

Now here's a couple of things.

First off, if I like that you you started Lynn Swan with the Thanos comparison, because I have to ask, which Marvel Earth?

You know? Are you creeping in in existence?

Because you're talking about not worrying about another team because of their malfeasance?

What the hell are you doing? That's what Hey, I'm as a Jets fan.

Better than you. I'm thinking, what what's been my mantra the off season? You jerk, it's been dark horse playoff team. That's my mantra. That's what I'm going. That's great, and that's who I'm competing with because a team at the Steelers that's good enough to get in the playoffs and do nothing. Now they may not even get in the playoffs. So okay, that's my that's who I'm competing. Okay, that's what I'm not competing. I'm not competing with the Eagles or the Bills. Come on, man, I know where I'm at. I just want to get in the dance once. I haven't been of the dance. Look again, Pope Francis became pope and died and never saw the Jets make the playoffs. Right, it's the longest drought in North American sports making the playoffs. I just want to get in the dance, man, that's all.

I'm not asking too much because we like a little bit of dark humor. I mean, there's nothing better than the graphic coming up the Cardinals pick is in as we await conclave and funeral proceedings, et cetera for the departed Pope. The other thing, I mean, look for the Steelers in a vacuum. You look at the picks that they've made, and I love both guys. First guy, obviously, his surname is Harmon.

That's what.

The other I mean.

Obviously, thoughts and love and prayers to he and his family. Mom got to hear the name, got to do all that, and and passed away.

I had had been in life support.

So just a tragic story trying to find that silver line lining that she got to see.

Uh.

Derek drafted Uh. And then the the Johnson pick.

It's got an average six yards of carry, durable running back. It's like it's a great move. Right now Augie Harris is gone. You team him with Jalen Warren there and keeps your run game. But yeah, I still got the guy in the Riddler route running running point.

Ask the quarterback who is it?

Who is it?

Is it Mason Rudolph or is it something that we have?

We have no idea.

Who's gonna be? Is it Aaron Rodgers? And it's all just.

A k fave wwe inspired work with all of this talking that eventually he shows up when it matters. Hi, guys, I'm here ready to work. Is it Kirk Cousins or is there something behind door number three?

I don't know. Sador Sanders is still out there.

He may still be their guy.

Before it's all said, none.

Right, but it's not just Shador Sanders. It's you need a quarterback, and there's guys out there's Sanders, and there's mill Row and yours and McCord, and you need a quarterback and you're in the third round.

Yeah, but you've also decided you don't think there's suddenly gonna be a run where all of those guys that you may have bunched together are suddenly gonna get drafted like this fantasy draft.

Hey, it's the run on the Yeah, the run on defenses have started. Okay, all right, exactly, Hey, we need to third tier quarterback. Let's do this. But but this is also but here's the thing. This is the quarterback position. Again the most important this is now you go, hey, let's play the game a little bit and I'll get my quarterback here. No, this is where, hey, we gotta get a quarterback. Let's get the guy here. Because yeah, it's sort of important, like if you wanted to say, hey, I really like you know, we need it. We need a we need a safety. But you know what, for some reason, it's a huge safety draft. There's like eight safeties that are interje Let's let's roll the dice a little bit that one of the guys, we like, is gonna be there at safety in the fourth round? Right? You do that with those positions, you don't do that at quarterback. You know, try to try to get by a quarterback. And that's the Steelers are doing. And I look, I go, what is going on here? I know, I really it's twenty twenty five in the NFL and you win with big playmakers at quarterback, and the Steelers are like, they're just they're just sticking there, you know, drawing a line going Nope, we're gonna try to win the way that nobody else has won in the NFL since nineteen eighty seven. We're gonna go back and do it that way.

Well, let me ask you this, though, Jason.

You go and you start ranking the rest of these quarterbacks, and I know you love McCord. How much did the taxidermy shop that quinn Ewers lives in, Oh, push him out the ladder?

I don't know what was more? What was more impressive about? Hey, this guy, this this guy is, uh, this guy, the this guy is really something as far as you got to watch out for the the Shador Sanders legendary, Uh, you know, perfect timing, Like that's pretty intimidating the big black and white images up there, or all the trophy all the buck trophies on the wall behind quinn Ewart's family there was like ten of them, Like, oh my goodness, what's going on?

I think if if I were his family, I don't have had some fun with it. Printed out a bunch of mini jerseys of DB's. He was gonna cook it. Just have him on the antlers. Let's say that Hamilton on it. Yeah, that's right.

No, no, no, that's a little that's a little true detect too true Detective season one For me, man, that's a lot. That'd be a little weird. You'd hear, you'd hear goodbye horses in the background.

I don't know.

I just like the way he's sitting there, arm over the sofa, and behind him.

You just have this dog nagerie.

Well, I mean look there's that, and then there's Shucks dog, which was amazing, right, I mean, girl, I mean come on, maybe look Chuck gets taken and and it's and it's a big shock, and everybody's jumping up, and his dog jumps up and is so happy because everybody is happy. He just wants to be in on the celebration, Like that almost made me cry. Right, that was so cool. And then when they interviewed him after, yeah it's my dog, I feelways said her name was Ruby or so yeah, she likes it. She's excited. She's just sitting there in the wide shot. Everything is cool, not worrying about her barking or anything else. Just so excited where the paws up in the air because everybody's jumping around and she wants to be part of the excitement. Like that was such a great moment. Man, it's huge.

Right, a dog takes center stage here on night two of the draft, just like a dog did five years ago. Tonight was Bill Belichick's dog sitting at the computer ready to make a selection.

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I like the company so much I bought it. The NFL Draft with rounds two and three tonight, and no nobody is taking Colorado quarterback shaduor Sanders yet. And by the way, we are on nearly pick number ninety overall NFL network saying tonight that among the things the Steelers aren't, Rooney told Steelers Nation Radio today on Aaron Rodgers free agent quarterback quote, he does want to come here, so I I do think we may get words soon.

End quote.

Steelers in the third round drafted a running back from Iowa, Caleb Johnson. Cleveland's second round took running back from Ohio State quin Shawn Judkins. Ohio State running back Travion Henderson went to New England. New Orleans selected a quarterback in round two, Tyler Shuck of Louisville. Among the other selections. This evening, LSU tight end Mason Taylor to the New York Jets. There is a Lakers at Minnesota playoff game going on right now. The third of the three. On tonight's schedule and dealing with a stomach bug is Luka Donci. She's one of six, shooting just two points in the first half, but mid second quarter, the Lakers lead thirty nine thirty seven at Minnesota because Lebron James has sixteen points, seven of nine shooting early.

Steez, wait, now I have a story here. I need you to be able to tell me if it's true or not. If you can confirm this that when Luca ordered room service before the game, the guy that brought up the food looked remarkably like Nico Harris. Can't you confirm that story?

No, but I believe it was someone who had worked at a Sacramento hotel years ago?

Okay, same guy? Sure, all right, you Nico Harrison. No, where's Luke? I need to come on, where's Luca's room? I got the food, give me the where where's the room?

The guy's been lying in wait for three decades.

And he also had no idea that Luca liked the food quite that much. Milwaukee over Indiana one seventeen to one oh one. Jannis Antenacumpo thirty seven points, Gary Trent Junior at thirty seven for the Bucks from three point range. He was nine of twelve at Orlando, a win for the Magic against Boston ninety five ninety three, even though Jason Tatum returned from the bruce wrist. Tatum had thirty six points and seven turnovers final minute of regulation in the NHL Playoffs at New Jersey Devils tied with Carolina two to two. Montreal has beaten Washington sixty three at Edmonton Oilers out to a two nothing lead in the first against the LA Kings to me major League Baseball, and Washington beat the Mets five to four, which.

There was no baseball tonight. There was no baseball tonight.

Well, it was like there was no umpires.

Earlier in the game.

Two runs in the bottom of the night and that's when you see earlier in the game, the Nationals turned to triple play, although clearly on replay the line drive to first actually hit the ground.

Yeah or yeah caught, But.

That triple play really took us right out of the inning. Yeah.

The Mets did have the four runs top of the eighth, did have a late lead. Yeah, you know, they could have had the Yankees closer maybe and add him to the no.

No killed Devin Williams ad Alonzo killed Devin Williams.

And Devin Williams about to get killed in New York City because he lost again tonight, giving up three in the top of the ninth at Yankee Stadium, Toronto beat the Yanks four to two. Baltimore at Detroit rained out doubleheader tomorrow. Boston at Cleveland, rained out doubleheader tomorrow. Kansas City won its fifth straight game, two nothing over Houston. Wins for Minnesota and the Cubs. Right now top of the ninth is Saint Louis Cardinals three to two over the Brewers. Raves already out to a three to nothing lead at Arizona, bottom of the third, and what a pitching matchup at Dodger Stadium tonight. It's Paul Skins and the Pirates against LA's Yoshinobu Yamamoto. Pirates lead one nothing in the second. Again in the NFL Draft, we're on about pick ninety round number three, Rams up next. Still no Shadoor Sanders selected in this draft. We are going back to you.

Thank you, Steve O Boy. If you're a sports fan here in LA. Tonight, let's see we need a two screen experience. I got the Lakers in the playoffs and I got schemes in Yamamoto. Oh oh, by the way, that I need.

The Kings, No, I need ever got everything Kings. Learning that working away from home a little different tonight.

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I'm sorry, Jason, I was looking for the Chador version.

Oh whoa, whoa, He's actually not even on the road. Ty Shirt he's not even on the road yet, Like, yeah, he'd have to be on the road going. He's not even on the road. He's still in his house.

So quickly here that Dion's not even gonna let him a home. He's just find to that little room.

If you think about it, he is on the road home because he was at the draft, right, No he was not.

He did not use no, No, he was home.

He was a tall Be sure to check out the Fox Sports Radio YouTube channel. Just search Fox Sports Radio on YouTube. You'll see a whole bunch of video highlights from our shows. Be sure to subscribe so you never miss our very best Fox Sports Radio videos on YouTube. Well, I'll tell you what time to let you know about some of our favorite picks in the draft. So ifore, we're gonna do this throughout the night tonight. Picks we like in the top ten, picks we liked from eleven through twenty, picks we like from twenty one to thirty two. Yes, we spent last night on Travis Hunter and no Chador Sanders and cam Ward, but there's some huge, huge difference maker picks that we're going to spotlight. And one big pick just happened about thirty seconds ago. Wait, Chador Sanders not quite not quite Shador Sanders, not quite, but still a very big pick. Nonetheless, you want quarterbacks going in the second, third round of the draft, we have quarterbacks going. We had Jackson Darton round one, Cam Mordon round one, we had Chucking round two. Well, we got some guys go, we got some guys. Wait with Quinn you weres coming, Kyle McCord coming. Oh yeah, we got guys coming. Who's coming to the NFL right now? Well, we'll tell you. Thanks to tire rakanthetire rack dot com play of the day. For over forty years, tire Rack's been helping customers find the right tires for how, what and where they drive. Shipped fast and free, backed by free road hazard protection with convenient installation options like mobile tire installation, tire rack dot Com is the way tire buying should be. You want a quarterback coming off the board, Well, here's a quarterback coming off the board about a minute and a half ago. You're jacket. This is so good. This is a family car right here.

With the ninety second pick of the twenty twenty five NFL Draft, the Seattle Seahawks have selected my nephew quarterback Alabama, Jalenmilroe.

Oh wow, look at you, ty shirt. A little bit of sweet Shawn Alexander.

Look at that man.

You did not know that though.

You did not know that, You did not know that Axander.

Like Jerry Tray, Jerry, we got a trade for you do with Sanders. He's not even in the NFL. George, he's not even that. I don't care. We gotta get a George. Uh So, here is Jaln Milroe taken by the Seattle Seahawks. Now, obviously, hey they're in on Sam Donald, but hey, Sam Donald, is he really gonna be this good?

Hell?

All right? We gotta make sure we have our next pipeline in there. So here comes Jalen Milroe, who was picked in a great spot. Right, I thought for sure coming into this season, if you you know, go back to August, where hey, Milroe's gonna get taken. All right. He's a first round guy. He is a first round talent, and he's someone that's gonna come in. You're gonna show you everybody how great he is. Will be a finalist for the Heisman. T big time early first round player. And then last year was just kind of okay. And he looked absolutely awful in the bowl game against Michigan, Like you would look at him and say, is he a freshman? Is he like having to play in his first game because their other quarterback is going to the NFL and is opting out of the bowl game. That's how bad Jalen Milroll looks. You could see a little bit more of a project. Yet this is perfect. It's a perfect situation for Jalen Milroe because, Okay, yeah, Sam Donald's got the gig, right, this is what we're doing. He's our guy, and he's court this year into next year. We're paying them money, yes, yes, yes, but now we have someone who might need a year a little bit to get used to the NFL, work on his footwork, work on his game, because clearly he is not nearly the finished product that we thought he was going to be. This is a great landing spot for him. He's outside of the spotlight, and by this time next year, depending how Sam Donald goes, Jalen Milroe is going to be much more ready to take over at some point. Again, he's got all the tools, he just didn't have a great enough year and that bulk Wow, I'll tell you that Bowl game shows you that, Hey, sometimes that last game you put on tape, if it's an absolute sticker, this is what can happen.

Well, but that's the curiosity of it, right, I mean everything else was great, and this is where we get down to your choices in war rooms and the last thing might be you know, first first impressions leave a lot last impressions like what do you do to finish things out?

Yeah, it wasn't good? Is that? Should that have been?

It?

No?

Some something in between, But certainly there's a lot to like. And you go through the draft analysis and prospecting of this draft season Jason and he was the guy that there were a lot of question marks, just like, okay, how high or low does he go? Because a week ago there was a well you could see him arguing that that's the guy they traded back into the back end of the first round for well, here you go in the third and you get him as a value proposition here for a team on the rebuild.

It it's a great landing spot. And now that now I like the Seahawks saying okay, we're all in on Sam Donald. Well, what if Sam Donald stinks? Okay, because we've seen him stink many more years when you've seen him be good. So now it's like, well if Donald stinks, boy, we're stuck, then we're looking for a quarterback next year. And said, no, no, now we have our guy and Jaln Milroll coming in hits the ground running because yeah, he's had a year in the program, a year being an NFL quarterback. No, it's a great, absolute great. Pet love this pick right here.

And you're committed to Donald, but you're not sixty million dollars a year committed to Sam Donald.

All right, So there you go, summer. There's one big pick we liked. What about some other picks from tonight and more? The Shador Sanders fall out? Will he still be on the board in ten seconds? Find out all that and more coming up next, Jason and Mike. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

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Absolute chaos, but you can calm the chaos with a shipping software that delivers Use code Sports for free trial at shipstation dot com, That shipstation dot com, Code Sports. The NFL Draft tonight is over. It's over, Johnny over Ti Felt now a Maryland wide receiver is the final pick of the third round, a day in which we did not see Colorado quarterback Shador Sanders get taken. He will now be a Day three pick at best. As we said a few minutes ago, this is not where you get drafted. If teams see you as a starter and you have a path to starting in the NFL, That's what this fall is for Shador Sanders joining us. Now, I'm the hotline. Nobody better talk this over with than college Football Insider extraordinaire, the owner, proprietor, editor, editor in chief, proof reader of College Footballnews dot com, your one stop shopping for everything college football. He's on Twitter at Pete few Tech. It is Pete few Tech. Pete how you doing, man, I'm gonna put it.

Out there right now to you guys, so on the record when they steal it from me, when after all this, Nike or whoever he signs with is gonna come up with the endure should campaign and he's going to like I'm legendary. Nothing can stop me and then there's gonna be a whole thing about how he's like, you know, coming back from this, you know, massive fall from grace. But yeah, it's crazy.

Did you register the domain?

Pete?

I'm sorry registered the domain? Sorry, I didn't mean to cut off your thank you.

I should, I should, I should absolutely do that, but you're this is this is basically I asked my my NFL friends or I'm talking about texting about all this the last few days. But win Shooter is going everything we can never at least in terms of the draft ever ever have or can come up with a bigger fu from the entire NFL to one guy because this is he's for whatever you think of him, he is one of the twenty five best players in this draft. And the NFL wants nothing to do with the reality show of the sander Holt Sanders thing.

You know. And that's the thing, Pete, is that this, you know, and this is We've talked about this for a few days. A lot of people taking this take, which is fine because information is free. Is that this is how much the off the field, the time between January first and the NFL Draft matter, because coming off the end of the season, it was hey, cam Ward shador Sanders. These guys are going one two. You see the football that they play on the field, and it his abs I mean, hey, you picked the guy you like more, but these are both top five guys. But then you had the combine you had getting to meet the players as you do. And this is when Sanders began to fall. I think teams show you, hey, we'll we'll put up with a certain amount of sweat, but it gets to point where there's too much. Yeah, okay, we're completely backing off it. This is how this is how January through April matters for NFL draftees.

I still think he's better. I think he's better than cam Ward. I think he is the best quarterback in this draft. But at this point, but like it's not now, it has taken on an even worse life button. So what happens to your point is he kind of passed like just a certain like zone where like you said, he's he's a starter up until if Cleveland takes him with the first pick in the second round, he's your starter. Let's go. And then like you said, things start to kind of mix a little bit and he keeps sliding and sliding and sliding, and then you get into the yeah, backup done. But it's not just you know, not gonna get politically or I say this, but it's all the Dion stuff. It's all the attitude. It's Trump putting something on truth, social yelling at the NFL general at ms are being stupid for not taking sug or stand. There's because Diana is a wonderful man. It's all of it. That's and that's how people don't want to deal with that. The football types just want to You don't want to just want to go into a room with dark room and watch film for sixteen hours in a row. They don't want to deal with all this, and that's become very apparent right.

Now, Pete.

So let's go back room at the top, we get cam Wore to start things off U and then it flows to form save.

The big trade.

Uh, where was the first uha moment outside the trade for you?

In the draft?

Outside of the trade? I was just I guess overall it's that Cleveland fleece Jacksonville because it is the trade, but it was just weird value pick after a weird value pick. I guess, look, Colton lovely going to Chicago. Everyone loves him. I know it's gonna work. He played on a team no offense, that didn't have no throw a forward pass, so you can't really tell how good he is. But it's crazy for a franchise. If you look at the last four years that they've had a first round drivers, that's three three years if they've had a first round draft pick, they've had four. When Doonday, the Bears pass on Caleb Williams for Jayden Daniels for Caleb Williams, Okay, that's fine. Whatever. They pass on Brock Bowers for Romeo Dounzay, that kind of hurts. Uh, They take Justin They move up for Justin Field, one pick ahead of Michaeh Parsons, and they trade so they get out of the shot at Jalen Carter uh to get an offensive guard. So if you think of the Bears were their last four first round picks, they could have had Jayden Daniels, Brock Bowers, Michael Parsons. And I'm like, who I just said, Yeah, it's it's that's that's rough. I mean, So you'd better be right about this. If Ty Warren is the real deal, which I kind of think he is.

By the way, did you love the video coming out of the Bears war room? Smith?

Did you see this as you've got polls on the phone and there's absolutely no yeah, excitement clapping anywhere. And then Ben Johnson comes over the top like he's flavor flave, Yeah, let's go.

Yeah, they're fired up. I mean it's a it's a pretty good draft. They got some I mean, getting Luther Burden in the second round. That's that's pretty good. I mean, that's it's it's an all right draft, So we will see. But yeah, it's it's certainly some interesting, but it is the trade. Like you said that, I I I think I'm still stunned by watching all this. Do people think, I mean, I'll ask you this, Do people think that Travis Hunter is gonna be an all Pro at both corner and wide receiver?

Yes?

Yes, and on special teams? And he's gonna be the quarterback and he's gonna kick, and.

He's gonna be maybe bugs Bunny and.

Will he sold tickets, and he's gonna like throw the he's gonna throw passes to himself when Trevor Marrins can't. I don't he's.

Saying the piece of the Super Bowl shuffle right there.

Pete, Yeah, I mean he he's great now. But not only did did Jacksonville trade? Cleveland gets Mason Graham, who is probably about as sure a thing in this draft as he can possibly get, and probably a franchise defensive tackle. And on top of this, Cleveland made jackson will pay for the Docti soda machine. So like, got it. They made this deal and for Travis Hunter, who now says, oh this changes the franchise. Okay, Like he's he's probably he's a good wide receiver, but is he the number two overall picket wide receiver. No, he's good at corner, but he's the number two overall picket corner. No. And like, if you think he's one of those two, you're kind of overpaying a lot for that muffler unless he does play seventy five plays a game, which he's not because he's not going against Kansas and Iowa State every week. So I'm sure he's gonna be great. Whatever position he plays is gonna rock. But there's some really smart people out there who think that he's going to be out there for every single play at the NFL level for seventeen games, and I just don't think that's happening.

See Pete, I think you brought up another another point outside of this that you know goes back is that Michigan had three players taken in the top thirteen and Will Johnson gets drafted. Maybe if he wasn't injured, he'd be drafted. You up there, this goes back and you say to yourself, Wow, how much malpractice was it for Michigan to not have a quarterback for twenty twenty four? You have all these guys going in the first couple of days and you you stunk last year because you couldn't get it. You figured out, oh, yeah, oh we need a quarterback. All that's that's just wow. Man, I look at that in retrospect that I get mad all over again.

Yeah, that that kind of hurts because you did have you did have some guys. And again look where you know, did the Nor Dame guys go off the board early? No? You know Ohio State for being all Ohio statey. You know their guys are coming, but they're starting to slide a little bit. You know, you still got some real big stars on last year's team that are just sliding on down, don't get drafted. But yeah, that's where in the new modern age you've got to have a quarterback. You know, it is inexcusable to not have a quarterback now at the level of Michigan is in the transfer portal era. You know, you know, drop some of that you know, fox money you're getting, you know, and just you know, go put it in the king, Go buy a quarterback. Go go pay for your quarterback.

Out there, college football News do cop College football insider p FU tech is our guest. Okay, so, speaking of quarterbacks, we watch cam Ward go number one overall the Titans, the Giants get Jackson Dart Shuck goes to New Orleans Mill Road to the Seattle Seahawks, and Dylan Gabriel love that right the way. Yeah, okay, so I ask you this, obviously Ward franchise guy to Tennessee the quarterback pick you like the most of the other four guys, and why is.

Who for the value?

Well?

I like, I love Shugs. The problem is, Hug is probably probably the number one quarterback in this draft. If you could promise that he doesn't literally bake break a collarbone again because he's on that twice broke his leg twice. He's you know, he's thirty five years old. You know, he's gonna round for people. People forget there was a legitimate not just you know, oh we're you know, lip service. He was in a legitimate battle for the starting quarterback job at Oregon with Justin Herbert and obviously lost Herbs Herbert and that, you know, everything goes from there. But he was supposed to be next. He was supposed to be you know, okay, well just wait till this guy, because he's got all the tools. He just had zero injury luck whatsoever until this year. He's able to stay healthy at Louisville and was good, not amazing, but he's got it. I love the jail Like Dylan Gabriel, you're drafting a backup. I mean, at that point what he doing. Just get get over yourselves. Draft Shador and if you do, is the best quarterback you got and.

You play them.

But I love Jalen Milroe. That works. You know, you got Sam Donald's not us. You're not gonna win us. You're gonna win friends with Sally. You're not gonna win a super Bowl, Sam Donald. We know this, So yeah, you know it works. You know we picked Russell Wilson in the Sea was the third round several years ago. And now you've got this guy who he's got all the skills, he's got all the talent. It might come together. He's one of those guys who could end up, you know, Matt Flinning, Sam Donald up there in Seattle.

Pete, how quickly do you start updating your twenty twenty six draft boards.

It's right up. We have the top hundred.

Picks up there.

You go.

Sweep.

It's the Art Sweepstakes and Kale Down. Kale Downs is actually the best player next year's draft. But Art is arch and so uh now it's a lot of edge rushers again, a lot of speculation, uh, out of quarterback question marks out there. And no, by the way, you want to talk about malpractice, I'm not going to call out names because he's kind of works you guys. Uh, how does a whole panel on a NFL draft broadcast not know that? Or Sanders can't just go back to college?

Yeah, I liked I liked the theory, though, Pete to just say, hey, it's anarchy. I make my own rules and you run around like the kids in uh, you.

Know, Jersey. You can't just go back now.

I mean, Warren, come on, Warren Moon gave his jersey to cam Wored the way.

Gave Tennessee Titans jersey to Cam Woard. He's not getting Pete what you can do that in college By the way, you can declare for the draft and keep your eligibility. You can't do that in college football.

No, how about this though? No, I like this. What are the odds not taking the first two days of the draft. He opts out of the NFL entirely. I'll go make my way in Canada, be a star and come back at some point. I'm not ever gonna play the NFL.

I've done Yeah, can you see the Yeah, that would be Actually I can't I can't even do it. Yeah, but yeah, he'll be drafted. Someone's gonna be like, all right enough, But you've got the problem is you don't have in the new modern NFL. You don't have a you know, a Don Shula or a you know, Bill Belichick, or someone who is just an absolute, you know, the authority, figure of authority. Maybe Andy Reids is as close as you can get, but you don't have that that coach who can just withstand all in any of everything that comes with the Shador Sanders and all that coming there. But again, he's he's good enough, he's you give it a shot. I mean, I still think if you are Pittsburgh, if you're Tampa Bay, you know, make the Baker Mayfield Thing's gonna happen for another year or so and then who knows. I think there's a lot of teams out there that's like, all right, can we really deal with should do her? And they're gonna be like, yeah, someone will take him early tomorrow.

He's on Twitter at Pete few Tech. That is at petefeuw tech college footballnews dot com. You're one stop shopping for everything college football. Pete is always buddy. Appreciate it, man, We'll talk to you next week. You got to be great stuff from Pete few Tech. Maybe maybe gets taken tomorrow.

Maybe may remember though, Jason.

I mean, Pete's a big shador guy. But he didn't go like everybody else. He didn't sound like he was tearful for him not being selected.

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