The Jason Smith Show with Mike HarmonJason and Mike react to Caitlin Clark’s WNBA debut. Jason’s getting closer to one day managing the Mets. And the Knicks are now one game away from the Conference Finals. Plus, a visit from MLB Insider Jon Paul Morosi!
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Greetings, Welcome inside, Happy Tuesday, The Jason Smith Show with my base friend Mike Harmon seventy nine Live from the Tirack dot Com Studios tirect dot com. I'll help you get there an unmatched selection, fast free shipping, free roadhazard protection, and over ten thousand recommended installers tirack dot com the way tire buying should be. Well, here's the thing, Mike Carmen, everybody told me after Game four.
This series was over. It was over the Nick.
The Knicks were done and there was there was no way they were going to be able to get back. They were done. They couldn't win. There was over because they lost one game. By twenty five, it was over. Thirty seconds to go on the third quarter. The Knicks lead the Pacers ninety six to seventy four. It has been all New York since the first quarter. And let me just say this for the first time in a couple of days. Go New York, O New York coat, go New York, New York coat, go New York, New York.
Go there. I feel good just thirty seconds out of the game.
You know, it's really good about this.
I figured out the timing of when you're going to do those yelling things since you're operating from the Mobile tire act dot Com Fox Sports Radio study today.
I just muted you.
I literally turned my sound down to zero, counted to seven and said, okay, I can turn it back up now.
Oh it's good.
Go go New York coach, Go New York, O New York CoA, go New York, New York.
How about that? Were able to get rid of that, go New.
York, New York co Oh yeah, I turned you way way way yeah, way way down, Go.
New York, New York, go New York. Because you're not New York, New York, New York. Goat go New York, New York. Go about that.
We're a national radio station.
You're being in New York coat or a network hundreds of affiliates nationwide, global, and and what's your point. You're bringing us to the lowest time, which is a denominator here with your go to.
New York go.
Oh my god, listen, I'm sorry, you're I'm sorry. The bulls aren't in the place. It's got nothing to do with the very sorry, I'm very You're everything that's wrong with you, York. You're just upset that finally my team is one of my teams. Is good because most of my teams have sucked for the past ten years.
We've been on the air together. It's been okay. But yesterday, go back by.
Now it's just we were doing You were except for being really really mad. Remember that was how you described it. You were really really mad.
About the tiny point loss.
Final are in between all of that, and we can parse it out and put it back together like the jigsaw puzzle that it is.
You were admitting defeat of this squad starting to fade.
Finally find out I told you from the beginning this, this magic carpet ride is gonna end at some point.
But do that? Would they have enough for the end of the Pacers series.
Yes, now, passers, I had no idea how soft they played tonight.
Well, an opportunity to go against this squad. You're getting out, rebounded, out, worked out, hustle, you were getting everything. It's unbelievable.
Look, I'll tell you why.
This game is a bog going to the fourth quarter and still still a lot of time left to go fourth quarter.
Pacers.
You know, they're gonna keep shooting threes like they've been doing all game, and they're eleven out of nineteen, so they've been shooting pretty well.
But it is a twenty one point lead for the Knicks. Lead. It is Look, the Knicks have.
Out everything, Yeah, Pacers, right like that, You could talk about a whole bunch of different things. They have out everything, the Pacers. And the reason they're doing this is because because are going off. Yes, you're gonna find at the end of the game, Rick Carlo is gonna go Hey, you know, the Knicks had seven players on the floor because Stark's and Marburri are in my guy's faces every time they get a basket.
Dude, they were on the court. Hey, Marbury made a couple of shots.
I mean I don't like Stark's taking those long threes because he hasn't taken them in twenty five years. But I'm okay with Marlburn Marbury silk can move a little bit.
It's okay.
I really just wanted more mellow.
But look, this is this is what's happened tonight, and it's really surprising is that the Knicks have either gotten the Pacers or the Pacers have gotten so wrapped up in this emotionally where the Knicks have gotten them to play physical again, and that ain't the way Indiana is going to win a game or a series. They have gotten the Pacers to play physical. There's been a lot of questions, it's been there's been fouls. You just had a double technical on Miles Turner and Dante DiVincenzo. It's been a very physical game, right physical for the backcourt guys setting picks on TJ McConnell, picks on Josh Art, picks on Jalen Brunson. It has been a physical, emotional game and the Pacer this is not how they're going to win. And the Knicks got them to play that way the first two games in Madison Square Guard you it could be as simple as a we're an MSG. You know, you know we we're at a disadvantage already playing on the road. You know, these big market teams are gonna get all the calls, and big market teams their market teams. But but maybe it's as simple as that is that they are. They got away from what they do best. They got away from pacing, They got away from what from what their strong part.
Of their team is.
And look, you have Halliburton with eleven points, all right, when if they won, when Halliburton's been the guy that's been running everything right, he's got eleven, he's minus fifteen. The Knicks are out everything the Pacers. But the Pacers have done them a favor by either being goaded into or being okay with, for some reason, playing this physical style, which I don't get because the Pacers, No, this is not how you're gonna beat the Knicks if you play into their physical style.
This is how the Knicks play.
This is why the Knicks get the benefit down on fouls because they play physical. They know how, they know what boundaries they can push and not get a whistle. This is what Rick Carlisle is so upset about. No crying, crying, But that that's what I'm most stunned about, is that I thought, coming into this game, Okay, Pacers are gonna come out, They're gonna say what worked the last couple of games, gonna work again. The Knicks were tired, We're gonna pace, We're gonna go up and down the floor. And it's not been that way. And all of a sudden, since the second quarter, it's been the Pacers have just decided to leave their identity behind. And it's not like they're not making tons of shots. They're shooting forty five percent from the floor, They've made almost sixty percent of their threes, they've made almost all their free throws. It's just they've gotten away from what makes them good. And that's why the Knicks are up so big going to the fourth quarter.
Keep the ball moving, don't get sucked into the physicality of it. It's just been really a head scratcher to watch this as it unraveled. Man, this is the old get into the WWF from back in our day. You know, Jesse Ventura in talks potentially to come back and have some sort of role, but this is where he returned to Gerrilla mon Souon saying, you're a finesse guy, You're a finasque guy.
You don't get into a New York street fight. That is not what you do here. I mean, look, I'm just watching one of the Knicks. I couldn't tell who it was, one of the old Knicks, one of the classic Knicks, who's at the game with Marv just just grab TJ. Mccotty, like kidding around with him. Obviously, So it's not something that was like, oh my god.
Is a fight.
Let's hope we're all the where all the Knicks were McConnell there, there was a time out on the floor and McConnell. One of the Knicks just grabs him from behind and starts shaking, and McConnell is laughing. Well, I can see one of the whisper in his ear real fast. I'm like, this is like the Knicks have like nine guys on the floor.
But that's just it.
Now you're playing psychological game, you know you you try to rough up Devincenzo again, We're coming for you.
Yeah, you know that kind of thing.
Imagine if Oakley was allowed in the garden. Let me let not hang on now, hang on hang on, do you really think Charles Oakley is not at the game? Do you really knows not there in disguise somewhere? Do you really think he's.
They're stubborn and then there's Charles Oakley.
Do you really think he's not there somewhere hidden in some disguise, like like.
Are you want to come down them from the afters? Like sting years ago?
He can.
He wouldn't be there in the garden. Yeah, but he wouldn't be there just to watch them play. No, no, no, he would announce his return with authority. No, no, no, he would not be cloaking dagger.
He can't though Oakley's not allowed in the garden.
He can't just ouh, look at Charles Oakley because then security walk up and say, okay, come this way, mister Oakley area.
But is he a shrinking violet? You think he's walking in there without being like, don't you know who I am?
No, Jason, there is there is an update on this story.
Oh there is. Okay, what he actually is allowed.
In the garden. He told them no, not until Dolan apologizes.
Oh, so he's not going to be in there.
So he's never going to the garden well, but that's just it.
And then the Knicks fired back, going, well, that may not be accurate. So somewhere in between, the truth does lie. If you're waiting for an apology from that man, good luck.
That's not having again. He doesn't even know the Knicks are in the playoffs. He has no idea what's going on right now.
He just wants to know about the gates.
He comes in every day and says, boy, the Garden made a lot of money lesson another Billy Joel concert.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right, mister. And yeah it's awesome so far. Yeah great. Just keep staying away. We're doing well. Keep staying away.
It's like in the remember the remember that episode of the Office where Jim convinces Dwight that it was it was Friday. It was really Thursday, and and Dwight didn't show up the next day for work. They spent all day Thursday convincing Dwight that it was Friday. That's what they do to James Doll. They convince him no, there's no playoff games, there's no nothing. People just go back and they look at his you know, they look at his his his daily calendar, and they make sure that. Okay, he doesn't know what's going on. He thinks something else is going something else is happening. Maybe put Taylor Swift there, No, Taylor Swift is too tough. Let's put Katy Perry and that's why people are coming to games. Let's try to convince him that's what's happening right now, that's why the Knicks are playing.
So and you just hand him a guitar and send him on his way.
Yeah, that's it. It's all you need to do.
Here, you go, we had we had the chat GBT GBT uh, send you some lyrics on the Knicks and their history.
Go work up a song.
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The two screen experience here. You know, it's okay. It was.
It wasn't as awful as people are gonna make it out to be.
It was a rough ish debut.
But the best thing I can say, and that I think everybody's taking a big sigh of relief, is that the game is not too much for her. Right, That's the one thing. Is the WNBA gonna be too much? What's gonna happen Caitlyn Clark tonight? Twenty points, ten turnovers. All right, so not a great night, none of Mike. She's gonna say, hey, my debut was you know, Chris Weber, you know, dunking behind my back and making all things right. No, it's not gonna be that. It's not Lebron's debut. But she did score twenty points. She led Indiana in scoring, and she was able to hit four threes.
Yes, you saw it.
Defensively, it's gonna be a little bit different for Carrington was phenomenal, especially in the first half. Uh picking her pocket a couple of times, her welcome to the WNBA moment, right, and I get that, But she still scored twenty in her debut.
Indiana is a you know, sellout crowd.
I could say, maybe the co number one story with the NBA playoffs tonight, and she.
Looked like she belongs.
So for all of this, Oh, it's gonna be difficult for her and and forget it, and it's gonna be a welcome to the NBA and watch how she struggles. That's not gonna happen. There's gonna be nights when she struggles shooting. That's gonna be that way. But like I said, going in, she's Steph Curry, She's going to find her shots. She still scored twenty tonight. Even though the one thing I can say I was stunneddad, is that the two touch fowls the whistled on her in the first five minutes, I'm.
Like, what of the w what are you doing?
You're whistling touch fowls on Cayln Clark in the first five minutes of her debut. What the hell are you doing? So I just gotta go to the bench, doesn't play. So she did play a little bit of foul trouble early, and that's a thing obviously, But you.
And you look overall.
Hey, twenty points, all right, we'll cut down on the turnovers. She belongs. She's gonna be good right away. It's going to happen. Everybody who was worried that she's gonna come in and struggle her rookie years not gonna happen. Will she hit the wall a little bit because it's a lot of basketball back to back. Yes, coming off a big college season, it's only been a few weeks. Now you have the WNBA season. Yeah, she'll have her ups and down. She'll she'll hit a little bit of a valley as a rookie, but overall, she's gonna be just fine. She's gonna be a star right away. And this is exactly what the WNBA needed.
No, I dig your mister, Brightside. That's good. You get to the twenty points. Remember you hit the under. It was twenty and a half. So better is that bactor needed better than a five for fifteen shooting performance. The ten turnovers concerning, and she's gonna get everybody's best punch. I mean that is we know that coming out of the gate and settled in in the second half and things looked a little more fluid. Certainly, the early file trouble didn't help. Nice coup for Disney plus to get that. A couple of times as that game got away, I was tempted, and I actually did go over and watch a little from the Snugly duckling from Tangled.
Well there you go. Okay, you're able to get.
That surrounded by enormous piles of money because that's what everybody's celebrating tonight, and for the Sun, a huge crowd.
The get in came down late.
You had a little bit of flourish of ticket sales, but earlier in the day you were talking about one hundred and fifty for get in versus their second game, which is like fifteen. So yeah, the Caitlin Clark effect is certainly there. But a lot of eyeballs and a lot of scrutiny and those that want to say, aha, you had enough in this game tour at least for one night.
You can do that. On the other side, you know, she can only get better for me exit.
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That story coming up here from Caitlin Clark as well. Right now, eight minutes to go in the fourth quarter, Nix on top of the Pacers one toh three to eighty six.
They have the ball.
Nick's looking to go up three games to two in the Eastern Conference SEMIS. But coming up next after big news today at Fox Sports Radio. I think the door is open for me to be the manager of the New York Mets. But Joe, I think the door is.
Open for that. That's straight ahead right here, Jason and Mike Fox.
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Hey, look at this, this guy's figuring out how to make shots again. Outstanding. Well.
I think he sat there with like those warm, warm sleeves on so his arms were ready. Yeah, yeah, it's gotta be an ice cold needing hit. No, no, no, we kept him nice and warm, little thermal things, you know, like they had for circulation and stuff as you go. You know, this game has gotten the field to me, Like I watch a lot of EPL during the day, right, Champions League and stuff soccer from abroad, and there's those times where they do a couple of reviews or injury time whatever, to where it seems like it's never gonna end. This feels like the end of in you know, added time, where it's like, can we just blow the whistle and be done with this damn game or any.
Oh No, the Pacers still try and they think they can hit some threes and get back into it. This still there's still five minutes left to go. What if we got a little bit uh, once we get inside of three minutes, two and a half minutes, I think then you'll see maybe see some kind of running clock. Well, I don't know, maybe Rick Carlisle will find a way to get thrown out of the game.
Nice. I don't know. I'm waiting to see what he has to say.
I keep waiting for Devincenzo and Miles Turner to get back into it again. That little elbow that Devincenzo game because he didn't like the high screen that was being set when they got the double technical, and that that gave us a moment like that, a little bit of a fire and then uh, Indiana actually started to hit a couple of shots, and then all the leads swelled back down to twenty very quickly.
Yeah, you know, it's.
Kind of like when you see a hockey game and the enforcer goes out to fight because you need to calm things down and it could be a fight. Like I feel like that's what the Pacers are doing every possession. It's okay, Miles Turner, you set a screen on one of their guards, right, like everywhere you set a screen on one of these guys. He's like, he's like trying to be the enforcer here to calm the game down a little bit.
Well, but both Heart and Devincenzo are guys that are gonna come through, you know, guns blazing on you, like they're not gonna say, oh, he's set in a screen and I'm gonna enter this softly. Nah, Let's try to run through them. And if it ends up being a brawl after, what are you gonna do?
Time out on the floor. New York has just hit back to back threes. Just over four minutes left to go. It is a one twelve eighty eight lead for the Knicks in Game five of the Eastern Conference semis. Again, we'll have more on this game coming up in a few minutes. But look, there's news and there's crazy news that makes you just go wow. Big news for us here at Fox Sports Radio today, big news across the country is our colleague Doug Gottlieb is gonna be the new head coach at University of Wisconsin Green Bay. Go. He interviewed last year and it went to somebody else, and you know, after an eighteen fourteen year he left to go be the head coach at Wyoming, and Doug Gottlieb is now the head coach at Wisconsin Green Bay. You know, look, Doug and I talk about stuff. And you know, we've done tons of shows together over the past few years, and I know coaching is something that absolutely lights him up.
He was coaching the Maccabi Games a couple of times.
He was the head coach. He coached under Bruce Pearl. So he's gonna be the new head coach Wisconsin Green Bay. But here's the best part. He is keeping his show here at Fox Sports Radio. This is this is fascinating and it's brilliant, and it's a social experiment I can't wait to see. I mean, we've never seen some This is the newest of new school where here's a head coach of a team who now not only is gonna have a right because you know, the coaches have radio shows. Usually it's one day a week. They show up for two hours, they answer questions from fans at a bar or some kind of thing, and they leave. That's the coaches show. This is gonna be a national radio show every day where Doug's gonna continue to come out and give you his takes on stuff. And it's not gonna be all Wisconsin Green Bay action, obviously, And he's gonna be the head coach and do this and This is just absolutely fascinating from so many perspectives, because it's polarized, because there's people that hate this right away, it's wondering how long can something like this last? Can it last? Can he still go with hot takes? Can he still give you know, big time hot takes went? Okay, You're now you're representing Wisconsin Green Bay as well. Well, this is just gonna be so fascinating to watch and see it unfold. I mean, when is this today? And I said, oh my god. And then of course my second thought was, if Doug can go from radio and you know, and I've done tons of shows with Doug, if Doug can go from radio and he can coach Wisconsin Green Bay, I can go from radio and manage the bleeping Mets.
Like I think that can happen. Man.
I mean football is too tough. There's too much to go into it. I mean, I mean there's there's a lot of planning and you got to get up really early in the morning. No, no, no, no, I can go manage them. If Doug can do this, I can manage the Mets.
Man. I'm thinking this can happen.
So what you're saying is, I mean with baseball and the analytics departments and the reports that they give you, the that you don't have to work very hard, because I mean, look, we chastised your man yesterday for not challenging what should have been a called third strike.
I would have chatted.
They made no effort.
He just screamed, oh, come on blue and then stood that and then watch the game unravel for your ideas.
Terrible man.
I think the door's open man.
For first, it was Hey, when when a guy like Tony Kornheiser got Monday Night Football, I thought, oh, hey, the door's open.
For people like us to do to do that.
Right, is Dennis Miller come on, let's go.
But but now, but now I'm like, oh wait a minute, man, Well, well, Dennis Miller was outside of sports. That was like, hey, we're gonna leapfrog you guys to go to a comedian. This is like, hey someone he.
Was great, and hey Daily Show.
Now I'm like, hey, wait a minute, you Doug can go, he can go, And yeah, okay, you know Doug's coached Maccabi games, coach youth. I've coached youth, not I've coached softball. I have the same kind of resume. I think I should call Steve Cohen's court side of the Knicks game right now. I say, listen, when it doesn't work out with Mendoza, call me and I'll do it.
I'll still do my show at night.
We may need to start an hour later because the Mets games will end a little bit right before the show, so I have to stay with the Mets all the way through.
But the mast the first want to do the show?
Yeah, yeah, you can do it from the dugout. I mean, if they allow him to do interviews, I mean you can do segments.
Oh no, No, I.
Would definitely stand and staring out at the field. There's no question about that.
I would have to do it from the dugout, Like I mean, we could be like.
A lot of shows and just tape a bunch of stuff and then hope nothing big happens.
No, but I could.
But I think if if they set me up and hey here's you know, this is skip studio, do the show after. You know, he's gonna talk about us a little bit, talk about other stuff like Lindor and Alonzo at the wall listening, is he talking about us? Is he talking about us? Like I could do that, like, I mean, I could, I could manage the Mets. If this is the Doug Gottlieb is blazing the trail for me to manage the Mets.
A four year old can manage the Mets.
Hey, come on now, man, come on eight or nine. Come on, four years old, they're still learning what colors.
They Yeah, this's gotta ten plus eight or nine because you got to be able to handle the salty language.
And I know at four and five you hear a lot of it.
Now, I mean, if you're traversing cable television and or just walking through a grocery store, I mean you're gonna.
Hear all that.
But you know.
Exactly, I mean, you have a lot of that.
But you know, if we say ten plus well, now it becomes really the parental guidance kind of thing.
Congratulations, Doug.
I heard him chatting it up with our guys Petros and Money on AM five seventy LA Sports earlier on his way to the airport, and he was kind of laying out his next four days and they're like, have you planned to sleep or eat in any of the number of people he's gonna meet with with the flights and the layovers and the drive or whatever I mean, because Green Bay is not easy to get to.
No, no, no, it's not.
It's not and and it's it's gonna be a little bit of ways. It's it's like if you live someplace, it's like a fifteen minute drive to get to the freeway. It's like, it takes me fifteen minutes to get to the freeway.
I'm not gonna get there.
And then you gotta get out of your car and ride a bicycle.
Yeah, but look.
Let's do because there's there's there's good and there's questions about this, right, and I wouldn't be fair.
Look, and Doug would say, well, what do you think? What do you think?
Why would Wisconsin green Bay say yes, this right, polar rising?
Why would they say yes?
The Horizon Conference has their coach Prime, right, Like, nobody is coming in with a bigger with a bigger presence than Doug who has been on TV for twenty years and on the radio for twenty years. It's been analyzing basketball for twenty years. He is he is the coach Prime of the Horizon League. Can he do a radio show?
Yeah?
In Wisconsin, his show will be ten to twelve, right, what are they doing from ten to twelve? Right, kids are in class, they're not practicing, they're not leaving for a game yet. Now, will there be a lot of days where four there Well, no, no, he's two to he's twelve to two ahead of us. He's twelve, so he's two to four there where practice isn't isn't quite happening yet, So he's still able to be able to do that in the middle of the day before they wind up having practice. Right, kids are in class, they're going through they're going through things. Now, will there be a lot of times where they'll be filling in for Doug Gottlieb, Yeah, that'll happen when he's traveling or something's going on.
There will be that. But could he do it?
Yeah, it's a new school thing, right, And Dion Sanders coming in and doing what he's doing in Colorado makes a lot of schools think, hey, it doesn't need to be one certain way. Maybe there's a bunch of different ways that we can get a successful head coach. And Dion's way Colorado's gonna see right, it's gonna be a short shelf life.
So it doesn't work right away.
There's gonna be changes, but him coming in saying, Hey, I don't need to have this great system. I can be the big CEO, and I can do the recruiting and I can I can be that guy, and I got other people running systems for me and and everything else. Yeah, you know what, Uh okay, maybe this can work. Why not, Let's give it a try. Right, So we've seen that this can work. But now if I'm saying where this thing would sit, I would say, without knowing anything, right, without knowing anything, I would say, this is probably a let's see how this year goes and then see where we're at. Right, Because for his consecrete back, if they have a bad year, or if if they don't win enough games, or who knows whatever it is, or or if if it could be just hey, this might be a little bit too taxing and we really were not getting great optics from it. It's a little bit of a distraction just knowing how things go in sports, that this will be reevaluated in the year. Again, I don't know anything, but I got to think some kind of thing is, Hey, this will go for a year and then we'll see where we're at. We'll say and he's got to see where he's at after still want to keep doing a show after a year, He's got I want to keep doing more coaching, I want to do all of this. So there's going to be I would say this has got to be a year thing, and then they'll reevaluate.
No, but that's the thing, right, And Doug knows what he's walking into. He's not a shrinking violet that you know he's going to. He knows the poison pens are out there. I mean, we know that, right. He's a guy that has been very strong in his opinions and rankled, you know, and ruffle some feathers at times. So you know, certainly I saw enough folks immediately in the socials and in little write ups trying to take their digs.
It's ambition, and obviously, you.
Know, we we throw our support and wish him the best that this can work for you to go become the Mets manager or whatever else it flows into. But you know, to try to figure out that balance for Green Bay. It's great exposure because I mean, now you can put that in the intros of the Doug Gottlieb show. Hey, he's been doing this for two decades and he's the head coach of the Wisconsin Green Bay Let's go, it's Doug Gottlieb's time. I mean, it's great promotion for the conference and for the team and for the school, great affiliation. Nobody's more excitable about the sport and college basketball. Now I sound like I should be getting a cut as his agent or PR guy, But the reality is, I mean that that's Doug. I mean he's walking, breathing encyclopedia and love of college buckets. So this is he gets a shot. Right, He's been been trying to get and you know, break in into the club for a while, and now he gets in and with Scott and Don the heads here at Fox Sports Radio, you know, having those discussions and for a year, Yeah, I would think that's exactly it, right. You try to get proof of concept that you can work in that nothing suffers, that there's no extra strain either on the people working on the show or for Doug at the university and the relationships he's got to cultivate there and then you go from there. But yeah, it's it's gonna be fascinating to watch it unfold and wish him the best. I know he was on a plane getting out there today, meeting with the team and everything else. So yeah, day one.
Wow, And and hey, let's not let this distract us from the biggest part of the story is that the.
Door is open for me to manage the Mets. Well, I mean.
It's a lot of You're gonna have to throw as much support Doug's way as you can. You might have to send him some extra sandwiches to cut down on, you know, his meal time, that he can be as operationally efficient, as successful as absolutely possible, because then the door is open.
Yeah.
I mean, look, I need Dean to win and I need Doug to win, because if both those things happen. Hey, guess what, Steve Cohen, this guy on Twitter, he's pretty funny.
When we have our.
Let's go that's my thing, man. I mean, we already know John Paul Morosi, who's going to join us later. It's a perfect night to have JP because you know, as he told us a couple of weeks ago, Hey, you know, I talked to David Stearns, who runs the New York Mets, and hey, anytime you have something to say, positive reinforcement, something about the team, and boy.
Tough to find something positive the last couple of days.
Hey, I can tell him, and what was the last thing I what was the last thing I told JP?
Hey?
Uh, tell David Stearns. I'm looking forward to seeing Christian Scott when he comes up. Kid looks like he's ready. A week later, Christian Scott came up and he's ready, man, and he can deal.
So I already feel like I am disclose. Now.
I just need Doug to win, and I need de On to win. And this can happen. Man, this can happen. Mets manager Fox Sports radio host Jason Smith Boom. And I can do all the games. I could do this, Oh my god, it would be so great. I would get to manage the game. And when we stink and we suck, like last night blowing the game or today when we were dead from the neck up.
I can go right on the air and rip those guys.
Nah.
I mean, well, you can't do a full lee Elia, I'll have to hit the dump button a few.
Times on you.
But I mean the call up when you were pretty much hover since in walking in talking about Tartar sauce to mister Burns.
Yeah, you can have your precious Tartar sauce. So there you go.
Oh, I'm so excited man, this, I am this close to managing the Mets.
Mendo.
You know, we gotta call Todd Furman find out what the odds are on me managing the Mets have gone to because they had to go, they had to go up, they had to kind of movement. Yeah, like instead of like Todd would normally say, Smith, I'll give you any odds you want now, it might be like three to one, you know, two to one.
I don't know, I don't I don't know. I don't know. Shrink all the way down.
Have to figure it out. Let's go.
Yeah, The Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Carmon live from the ti iraq dot Com Studios. Forty five seconds left to go in New York or the Pacers trying to cut into the Knicks lead if they make this free throw. Oh, they just made the free throw. It is a thirty point lead for the New York Knicks.
Hej car talking about his kids golf travels again.
With forty five seconds left to go, So the Knicks are gonna take Game five.
Coming up next, we break down the biggest NBA Story of the Night.
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The Knicks Went and Ran Away from the Pacers. Tonight in the second third, fourth quarters Fox Sports Radio The Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon, Hi, Bunny, Hey, just so you know, Yeah, we talked about potential my path to managing the Mets being so wide open after Doug Gottlie got the gig. Today, already people here at Fox are asking me what they could do.
Bernie Frattle wants to know, you know, who's out of Vegas on the weekend.
Say, I told him I'd make him my traveling secretary and gambling advisor. Oh, I don't Maybe the MLB would frown on that, a manager having a gambling advisor.
I don't know. Do you think are they are they? Are they they open for that? Do you think that's that's it's still strange?
Well, I think you need to. I mean, basically, he's becoming your epay.
Okay, all right now, I think what you're.
Saying is Bernie's training by Beck training your bank again. I think what you're trying to say is you need CONSIGLIERI to advise, you know, things he may see untoorn on the field, to wonder if guys aren't uh you know, kind of got some.
Funny business going on.
Maybe maybe that's what what kind of role he can have there in terms of actually advising you about gambling. I mean, it is all about odds and percentages, so I mean there is some validity to that. I don't know that you want to use that title. Well, but it's not like Rob Banford's gonna get involved.
Yeah, but would yeah, but would in baseball? Hey, listen, I want to make sure I gamble right and responsibly. I don't want to get banned. So I have a gambling advisor. Isn't that a good thing that I.
Would have to like that?
I mean, come on, I've got somebody look get out for me.
Uh So, well, that's how I'm already filling out my staff. I'm probably two years away from getting this job, but I'm filling out a staff.
Well, it's got you gotta get that proof of concept going. So Doug's got to hit it running.
Yep. If Doug wins and Deon wins. It's happening. Man. Don't look now, Carlos Mendoza, I'm coming for your job. Uh.
Meanwhile, the biggest story in the NBA. We're starting Game two already, Minnesota and Denver. In Game five of the t Wolves lead at eight six, eight minutes to go in the first quarter. The New York Knicks bulldozed and boat race the Pacers tonight. There's not a lot you can say other than it was a complete and total Knicks domination, one one to ninety one. Go New York, Goat, New York, Goat. They now lead this series three games to two. And I you know, and here's the thing, Mike, is that I told you last night what I was okay with, what I was mad about, what I was really mad about, Right, I was okay with. Look, I know at some point the Knicks magic carpet ride will come to an end.
Do they have enough of the Pacers?
Yeah, but maybe they don't, but I think they do, So I'm okay with that.
I'm mad at the.
Fact that suddenly Rick Carlisle goes from crying about all kinds of calls and now that they tie the series up It's like a little kid who's crying.
You give him a lollipop and he stops.
And I'm also really really mad at everybody who said, oh, the Knicks are done. They lost the game by twenty. They're exhausted. The Knicks are done. There's no way they can come back. This series is over. The Knicks just absolutely obliterated Indiana, and there's nothing you can say. I really want to see what Rick Carlisle says after the game. Hey, you know, I really thought the team was really they weren't as focused because they were all checking their phones, how Caitlin Clark was doing. We weren't really focused on the game. I mean, I mean, what are they gonna say, Oh, the Northern Lights. We're all kept looking. Guys are all talking about the Northern Lights and can we see him from here? And I can't see him? And they look great on Facebook. I mean, Rick Carlisle, there's nothing he can say other than we got beat. It's not about fouls. They tried to play physics. This was the Knicks just out everything them from the beginning. And it's stunning that a team with all that momentum came into this game and lost like that, I'm not surprised the Knicks.
One.
Look, if you said, hey, what's the.
Most likely outcome for the Knicks in Game five, Well, they have another gutty not you know, look the gas tank getting towards empty, but they find a way to gut it out. By the most I would say they'd win by five or seven. But this was where the Pacers, no matter what they tried, they could not even get into this game, not get back into it. They couldn't get into it after the first quarter.
Well, as we talked about yesterday right in your really really mad segment, was med kind of laying it out of Well, here's the logic of whether they can you know, get it muster enough to get a victory.
Don't know, but you know they're not going down without a fight.
Now, did you think that in the Indiana would show up and try to match that. No, and they got bullied. They shot forty three percent from the field, forty four percent from three point range. They had eighteen turnovers to the Knicks nine. They got out rebounded by twenty four. Oh and they gave up twenty offensive rebounds. Your guy Hartenstein had twelve deeven Chenzo for the game was four fourteen, oh of six went for eight and seven and you still won by thirty. That's the kind of thing you got into the street fight. They lulled you in and then you just plunged him from pillar to post. And so for Rick Carlile, he issues one statement, we got our asses kicked, that's it. And he could cite all the stats like I just did.
Do you think do you think Rick Carlile can help himself? Though?
That's I can't wait to see what he says Kenny help himself. Is he gonna say, you know, more small market teams who show up in the big city. They get off the bus and you know, there's so many people trying to take your money right out of the gate, and I don't know, we don't know what's going on.
We get to the big city.
He's gonna talk about how the basketball is a beautiful game of flow and continuity, and the way the Knicks bodied up and played football tonight, there was none of that going to be allowed.
Coming up next, we got more from the NBA, more from Clayton Clark's debut, and a big NFL story.
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Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Harmon. Right now, middle of second quarter Minnesota and Denver, a pivotal Game five series in which the home team has yet to win. Minnesota and Denver tied at thirty one a piece. This has been a nip tuck game all the way through. We'll have more on this coming up. However, one of the biggest stories in the NBA Turn Basketball Today gets us to our next guest. You probably heard our colleague gear and friend at Fox Sports Radio, Doug Gottlieb name the new head coach at University Wisconsin Green Bay. He's gonna pilot the Phoenix in the Horizon League. He is also going to keep his radio show here at Fox Sports Radio, which is gonna be a phenomenal and fascinating social experiment to see how this thing goes. Really, it is just an unbelievable story. This makes me realize I may be closer than ever to managing the New York Mets. Joining us now on the hotline, let me know exactly how close I am. MLB Network insider, extraordinary Fox Sports Radio insider. He is on Twitter at John Morosi. He is going to be on the call tomorrow of Phillies Mets sweep as that series continues, is he bringing up Broom? Well, look, the Philly's already won the first two in New York. Now they're gonna win the next two in Philadelphia, and maybe the seat gets hot for Carlos Mendoza and I become the Mets manager, John Paul So, I got to ask, now, Doug Gottlieb radio host, TV guy for a long time, he's coach basketball, head coach Wisconsin, Green Bay, ME radio host for a long time.
I've coached softball for a long time.
Mets fan, I have the inn with you and David Stearns because you send him text for me when I send you positive things about the team. How close am I to being named Mets manager? I think right now about two years away.
We're gonna work on this, Okay. I will be in hopefully having a chance to catch up with David in person, as you mentioned, well, I'll be there for MLB Network in Philly this week, and I probably won't ask Carlos if that's if that's potentially on the horizon you having his job. Maybe I'll mention it to David and just get his interest on that and see what he thinks, But to me, the larger question and this is my Midwestern perspective on all this. First of all, I love that we are now moving the center of gravity in the in the sports media and sports talk radio landscape away from the coasts and closer to where I live here in Michigan and in fact where I was born in northern Michigan. They're all Packer fans there, So basically, you know, Doug and I are like cousins. Now he's going to be here in the Midwest. I wonder if there's going to be a second Fox Sports radio studio actually constructed in the basketball facility at Green Bay that would allow Doug to both host the radio program and then run the practice at the same time. And listen, No, no, we need more pressure. We got to get a one three one here. We got to rotate better. I want to go man press to zone, half court, all that stuff. He's going to be saying that on the air, So I really think that his practices will likely be part of the show. I'm just it's like an on air production meeting right now for Doug show. But of course I'm gonna have to have a conversation with Doug because he's been very gracious to me over the years. He's had me on his show many, many times. But now you got two teams in his league are here in Michigan, including where my father earned his law degree at the University of Detroit. So, guys, I got to tell you what, when the Titans are playing at Callahan Hall, deal in our family. So I don't think I'm not to really think about this one here. You know, Doug rolls in there with with the University Wisconsin Green Bay Varsity to Callahan Hall. You know, Doug, you've been great to be buddy, But but my dad's a Titan. So what am I going to do on that one?
Listen, listen, I'll make it.
I'll make it even easier on you, Okay, as a guy who has been to your hometown of Marquette, Michigan on many occasions, anatomy of a murder, as a guy who's been there. When I get the gig with the Mets, John Paul, I'm gonna make you gonna.
Get a huge gig like I coach. I mean, oh, you want to be bench.
Comin whoa whoa hold on? Now?
Well, Harmon's my bet you guys will both be my bench coaches. It'll be great.
I need I mean, I got eight minutes right.
I might be the quality control coach. I'll be the basically my job and this this will work. I mean basically, I love where the conversation is going because we're going to basically be able to recreate our our newsroom ECO system into the baseball roles. So I would say the person who answers the phone or is directing traffic behind the behind the glass, I would say it's probably Justin Prosberg. He will I would say, the most analogous decision there will either be if you're really feeling good bench coach or at the very least, something you know that he can do is answer the phone. So he becomes the replay coordinator. He's he's the guy that's that's on the phone with replay and letting you know, do you replay the play or not. That's it's a very natural transition for Justin. It is.
However, I've already promised him mister met so he Justin's already taken care of He's mister met.
Well, you know that's that is perhaps the highest profile spot in the whole organization. And by the way, so what's what's going to happen. If the Mets continue struggling and they've got a trade Peede Alonzo at the trade deadline, then.
What do you do? Here's what happens.
I get Like you say, you know what you send advice that I give sometimes to David Sterns, I will send you what the best trade is, and if that's the trade the Mets wind up making, that's the message that Sterns he is sending to me that hey, hey, this guy is my next manager. He really gets it, like I know that. That's how it's going to work.
Where he shows the confidence in you. He believes in you. Now I got it. And listen when when they promoted Scott were you were all over that. I mean, I'm beginning to think that maybe you're you're running your own shadow cabinet there in La running, running the mess and making your own decisions. As if I was in charge. This is what I would do. It's the it's the shadow government that you've got there in the Tiraq dot com studios.
It's what he's been doing for.
A long time, and now there finally might be a little juice to it, and I mean, look for Mendoza.
You could just ask him.
You know, the fans and a lot of media members in New York think they can do your job, can they?
And then you see how he responds.
Well.
Now, listen, he has just been on the job regular season wise for six weeks. We got to get him some time. And let's be fair. This is one thing I will add as well that we knew, we knew the Braves would be really good this year, and they are. The Phillies have in my view, exceeded expectations, even with Trey Turner on the il. So my apologies to you that I think it's it's probably going to be a longer rebuild than we thought, unless, of course, Steve Cohen gets really excited and Jason Smith gets really excited and and you decide to sign one. So too, this winner that maybe it's a little bit of a different conversation.
All right, Well, let me let me go to actual baseball now instead of these pipe dreams of one Jason Smith, because he's drawing up Org charts.
We had now indulgence, Mike. It was either it was either you're gonna have to indulge him for two straight hours, or we could we could do it during this segment, and we've we have I think graciously opted for the latter option.
No, don't be this indulgent. I can open up. I'm opening up the position of bench coaches now for both of you.
Forget both. You'll be lucky to get in the organization.
Now, that's okay.
I'm pre preparing my CV as we speak.
Yeah, well, just as soon as you start to struggle and realize that you can't handle that balance, because psychologically, if you had that Mets uniform on, it would crush you from anything else in your life, the Mike Harmon Show becomes a reality. So I'm already planting bits with Frostburg, Chris Sale, What the hell happened? Where did this guy come back from?
Well, that's a great question. And I think that Alex Anthopoulos deserves a ton of credit with the Atlanta Braves that he has always been someone that understands value and these comfortable I think part of Alex's philosophy on pitching is he's willing to go all in for the shorter term deals of guys that he believes in. He almost actually signed Justin Verlander when Verlander went to the Mets. I'm not sure if future Mets manager Jason Smith was aware of that, but the Braves really made a serious effort to sign JV. They didn't. They fell short. Of course, he signed with the Mets. Now he's back with the Astros. But I think that when you look at Sales pitch making, he's healthy again. He's been in the zone. The secondary stuff is sharp, the command is sharp. I think that he is now in a moment where if you've got to start game one of a postseason series now, especially with Strider on the il and again Max Freed certainly is part of that conversation too, but you're going to feel really good with Sale going game one or game two and the other piece of it. That's interesting, and we're not going to get ahead of ourselves here, but at some point they may well face the Dodgers in the postseason, and boy, if you're the Braves, wouldn't you love it to be able to have Freed and Sale as two key lefties going up again Freeman and Otani to try to again try to limit the damage for most two high end MVP players. It's just gonna be so much fun. To watch us all play out, and Chris sale is right back in the middle of it like he was all those years ago with the Chicago White Sox back in the day.
All right, JP, here we are.
We're sitting in the middle of May, and we've seen about forty five games or so. And as you talked about the Phillies surprising everybody at the top in the National League along with the Dodgers.
If I said to you the best team.
In the American League right now is who who are you gonna tell, regardless of record, who's the best team right now in the American League?
The best team in the American League right now, I'm I'm gonna go with the Yankees. And that may surprise you a little bit. But part of it is that Garrick Cole has not even thrown a pitch yet, and look how good they are. I do believe the Orioles will add a starting pick the deadline, but provided health, there's no one available that's going to be able to do what Garrett Cole can do. And so Clay Holmes has been just absolutely unhittable in the closers role, and you've got Soto and Stan has been able to come back and rejoin with Judge. Rizzo is back and healthy both He's a different guy than he was a year ago. Verdugo is a valuable player. You go down the list, guys. I mean, I just think that you listen. I love Baltimore's young talent and they could easily win the day. But with the current potential on this roster, I like the Yankees roster the best of everybody.
All right, we went full positivity. The rarity with Chris Sale and his redemption tour. How do you fix Corbyn Carroll?
Well, that's a great question, and I think this has become an issue around baseball. Look at how many talented hitters who really got off the good stars last year or had for a good full seasons. Rkel Senta Detroit is a good example of this, and then they just regress.
You know.
Carol is someone that I think he has a swing that I think in some ways is predisposed to if he's attacked with certain velocity and commanded. Well, he has not been able to get to that spot, and that is what concerns me right now. He will figure it out. He will. There's a reason why he's one of the best at least last year was one of the best ten players in the sport. He was that good. He runs the basis so well, he defends so well. But it's it's now I think a parent how much the d Backs relied on him last year and how much they still need him now. He's just not there yet. In my opinion, he's he his timing a little bit off. I do think he'll figure it out, but big contract, World Series, a lot of pressure, and I just think it's it's been an out of sync beginning of the year for him. I do believe that he will, like Julio Rodriguez has done before, he'll figure it out because he's just that talented.
He is the pride of Marquette, Michigan. He is the Pope.
John Paul Morose, the MLB Network insider, on the call of tomorrow's Phillies Mets game, can you.
Get the Mets to win?
Here?
I'm starting to slip away from us a little.
Bit here, slipping away my friends. My apologies there. I will try to bring David some luck when I when I speak to him this week. I tell you what Mark Canna, the former Matt has done very well in Detroit. So the Tigers thank you for Mark Canna, but you're right, they got to get more from Alonso and Lindora and McNeil to an extent as well. It's a lot of a lot of those big guys. And I think they still miss Alvarez. We talked about him a lot during the course of the season two. I think they still miss the young main stay behind the plane.
Pope.
Catch on the game tomorrow, my friend, we'll talk some of that fun.
All right, there goes John Paul MOROSSI.
I'm in a couple of years away, a couple of Hey, there's a sharp guy, Mets manager.
Man, all I get to wear the Mets jersey and stuff.
Oh well, you just came in and he took the bench job. He just you know, I mean, I like that, he asserted himself. That's kind of cool. I mean I I'd go full pool Q joker h kind of scene if I needed to tame that job.
I initially had John Paul as as like a PR director, Right, I guess you had like either the PR director. He's great, you know, the forward face of the organization, but he wants me the bench coach.
So I thought you were gonna have him take over for.
No, no, no, come on, I'm Sternsey's guy man, I said. I communicate with him through John paulm ROSSI you get this is like a spy movie from from World War Two.
It's either that or the guy that you're you're going to to have your fortune, right, I don't know what it is anymore. Right in the medium we're communicating and coded messages.
This is fantastic.
He watches you blink on a zoom call.
Let's find out what's trending right now the wide world of sports from Brian Fenley.
B F what do you got for us?
Yeah, Jason and I'll be there to help out as well. Somehow, I'm not sure what I want to be doing, but.
I don't know.
Maybe you don't, I mean maybe because you like to be too punny on the air, and maybe that maybe that doesn't work in New York.
Well, i'll tell you what.
What I've heard reports are suggesting that the Mets locker room has a bad case of athletes foot So I'll make sure that the locker room is sanitized so that doesn't become a problem moving forward.
That's probably why they're losing so.
Much management to act. In acting, you'll be you'll be like, what's like, what's her name's dad? And my big fat Greek wedding is walking around the wind.
Decks trying to yea, let's go.
Yeah, yeah, I'll do all that, and I'll clean all the that's.
The index guy. Let the wind dex guy and windex guys coming in.
Okay, Yeah, I'll clean the jockstraps, all right.
So yeah, let's get right into the NBA here in the Tim Roles and Nuggets are playing right now. Nuggets are forty three to thirty nine three minutes ago in the second quarter. This is West Semifinals Game five. Series is tied at two. Nicole Jokich fourteen points and seven rebounds as the Nuggets are trying to win one here at home. Plenty of time though, before this one wraps up what has wrapped up from the Garden. It was the Knicks dominating from the second quarter on in a one to twenty one at ninety one w over the Pacers Eastern Semifinals postseason matchup. It's a game five as well, which means New York has jumped in front three games.
To two, in large part to the forty four.
Points and seven assists from Jalen Brunson, and after the game, Tom Thibodeau the Thibodo excuse me, the head coach for the Knicks, saying, yeah, it's one game, but we still have a lot more that we need to do.
We still need one more win, so we can't be too excited about it. We have to understand what we need to do, stay focused on the task at hand. You feel good about yourself, you get knocked down in this league.
Ready to go now nervous? He does.
And I don't think he said one cliche in there, and not one, not one cliche there.
I like how you guys say we won by thirty time.
Let me still mind a way to put something difficult into it.
Then nothing is bad, tonight. They after a beat down, like DoD Jason, you say it's over.
He should have just stood up and he said, hey, hey, Rick, thrown it an.
Towel and God, he could have said, Hey, Jimmy Butler, Hey screw you, jerk.
We're still here and I got all the Knicks. The ghosts of nixt season's past with me. Stead he's out there. He sounded defeated.
Hey, Rick, Carlisle, Jason Smith, Fox Sports Radio. If you had Jimmy Butler, you probably won by twenty five tonight. Coach, coach, coach, there we go. Wow, that's I'd like to say.
Yeah, I'll leave you guys with this NHL Oilers over the Canucks two to nothing that actually is still going.
On right now, just beginning of the third period.
It's a game four out West and a second round series, meaning that if Vancouver is able to win this one, they would go up three games to one. Edmonton is hosting, and earlier the Bruins capitalize on a two to one victory over the Panthers Eastern second Round. That's a game five. Florida now leads the series three games to two. Excuse me, as the Bruins are able to for say game six. The White Sox split a doubleheader today against the Nationals, and then my final score, I want to mention that the Mets lost four to one against the Phillies. That as a final score, Aaron Nola eight strikeouts, a four hit shutout against the Mets team that seems to be slumping nineteen and twenty one on the year.
So maybe we'll.
See what happens with that, let's get it back to Mike Harmon and Jason Smith, who's been working out a lot, shooting that three ball at the gym.
Thank you very much, Brian, finally appreciate it. The Jason Smith Show with my best friend Mike Hartman. We have more basketball coming up next. Tonight was the WNBA debut for Caitlin Clark. While it was rough, it was all so great.
How could it be both? We'll tell you that's next. Fox Sports Radio
