Like many women, Emma Saunders is often asked if she has kids. She’s thought carefully about her answer: "I think it would be very disrespectful to Ella and Alfie to pretend that they didn’t exist so it’s important for me to say 'yes', but I follow that up really quickly with 'but they died young'." Emma shared her decade-long and incredibly difficult fertility story with The Human Race podcast. We've decided to split her story into two parts. Both are available now. You can listen to part two when you're ready.

Originally published in 2023. 

Like many women, Emma Saunders is often asked if she has kids. She&rsquo;s thought carefully about her answer: "I think it would be very disrespectful to Ella and Alfie to pretend that they didn&rsquo;t exist so it&rsquo;s important for me to say 'yes', but I follow that up really quickly with 'but they died young'." Emma shared her decade-long and incredibly difficult fertility story with The Human Race podcast. We've decided to split her story into two parts. Both are available now. You can listen to part two when you're ready.
Originally published in 2023.&nbsp;

Making a baby isn't necessarily easy. One in four people in Aotearoa-New Zealand experience infertility - and half of those need medical help to get pregnant.

Then there are people challenged by circumstances rather than health concerns - singles, members of Rainbow communities ...But it’s still a subject many have trouble talking about.

In The Human Race, Dan and Nadine Higgins meet Kiwis who’ve spent years trying to make a tiny human before it’s too late. After experiencing a long fertility fight of their own, Dan and Nadine are here to provide comfort and community to those walking an often lonely road.

Their guests - some high-profile, others everyday - share challenges posed by age, health, sexual orientation, prejudice and plain bad luck. They offer tales of resilience, tenacity, heartache and hope. So, whether you’re in the race of your life, you’ve been there before, or you know someone who is struggling, this is a must-listen podcast.

Trigger Warning: This podcast covers topics that will be upsetting for some, including miscarriage, stillbirth and infertility. A range of organisations can help. For support around miscarriage and stillbirth see wheturangitia.services.govt.nz. For support with fertility visit fertilitynz.org.nz.

Making a baby isn't necessarily easy. One in four people in Aotearoa-New Zealand experience infertility - and half of those need medical help to get pregnant.
Then there are people challenged by circumstances rather than health concerns - singles, members of Rainbow communities ...But it&rsquo;s still a subject many have trouble talking about.
In The Human Race, Dan and Nadine Higgins meet Kiwis who&rsquo;ve spent years trying to make a tiny human before it&rsquo;s too late. After experiencing a long fertility fight of their own, Dan and Nadine are here to provide comfort and community to those walking an often lonely road.
Their guests - some high-profile, others everyday - share challenges posed by age, health, sexual orientation, prejudice and plain bad luck. They offer tales of resilience, tenacity, heartache and hope. So, whether you&rsquo;re in the race of your life, you&rsquo;ve been there before, or you know someone who is struggling, this is a must-listen podcast.
Trigger Warning:&nbsp;This podcast covers topics that will be upsetting for some, including miscarriage, stillbirth and infertility. A range of organisations can help. For support around miscarriage and stillbirth see <a href="https://wheturangitia.services.govt.nz/">wheturangitia.services.govt.nz</a>. For support with fertility visit <a href="https://www.fertilitynz.org.nz/">fertilitynz.org.nz</a>.

Dan and Nadine Higgins meet people in the race of their life - to create a life.

The Human Race

Making a baby isn't necessarily easy. One in four people in Aotearoa-New Zealand experience infertility - and half of those need medical help to get pregnant.

Then there are people challenged by circumstances rather than health concerns - singles, members of Rainbow communities ...But it’s still a subject many have trouble talking about.

In The Human Race, Dan and Nadine Higgins meet Kiwis who’ve spent years trying to make a tiny human before it’s too late. After experiencing a long fertility fight of their own, Dan and Nadine are here to provide comfort and community to those walking an often lonely road.

Their guests - some high-profile, others everyday - share challenges posed by age, health, sexual orientation, prejudice and plain bad luck. They offer tales of resilience, tenacity, heartache and hope. So, whether you’re in the race of your life, you’ve been there before, or you know someone who is struggling, this is a must-listen podcast.

Trigger Warning: This podcast covers topics that will be upsetting for some, including miscarriage, stillbirth and infertility. A range of organisations can help. For support around miscarriage and stillbirth see wheturangitia.services.govt.nz. For support with fertility visit fertilitynz.org.nz.

Originally published in 2023. 

Making a baby isn't necessarily easy. One in four people in Aotearoa-New Zealand experience infertility - and half of those need medical help to get pregnant.
Then there are people challenged by circumstances rather than health concerns - singles, members of Rainbow communities ...But it&rsquo;s still a subject many have trouble talking about.
In The Human Race, Dan and Nadine Higgins meet Kiwis who&rsquo;ve spent years trying to make a tiny human before it&rsquo;s too late. After experiencing a long fertility fight of their own, Dan and Nadine are here to provide comfort and community to those walking an often lonely road.
Their guests - some high-profile, others everyday - share challenges posed by age, health, sexual orientation, prejudice and plain bad luck. They offer tales of resilience, tenacity, heartache and hope. So, whether you&rsquo;re in the race of your life, you&rsquo;ve been there before, or you know someone who is struggling, this is a must-listen podcast.
Trigger Warning:&nbsp;This podcast covers topics that will be upsetting for some, including miscarriage, stillbirth and infertility. A range of organisations can help. For support around miscarriage and stillbirth see <a href="https://wheturangitia.services.govt.nz/">wheturangitia.services.govt.nz</a>. For support with fertility visit <a href="https://www.fertilitynz.org.nz/">fertilitynz.org.nz</a>.
Originally published in 2023.&nbsp;