For a gay couple, there are extra layers of complexity involved in the baby-making battle - donors, doctors, legal agreements. But is the system outdated? Is it time for change? Taryn and Sasha Kljakovic tell Dan and Nadine about the challenges they navigated on their way to conceiving their two beautiful children.

Originally published in 2023. 

For a gay couple, there are extra layers of complexity involved in the baby-making battle - donors, doctors, legal agreements. But is the system outdated? Is it time for change? Taryn and Sasha Kljakovic tell Dan and Nadine about the challenges they navigated on their way to conceiving their two beautiful children.
Originally published in 2023.&nbsp;

Making a baby isn't necessarily easy. One in four people in Aotearoa-New Zealand experience infertility - and half of those need medical help to get pregnant.

Then there are people challenged by circumstances rather than health concerns - singles, members of Rainbow communities ...But it’s still a subject many have trouble talking about.

In The Human Race, Dan and Nadine Higgins meet Kiwis who’ve spent years trying to make a tiny human before it’s too late. After experiencing a long fertility fight of their own, Dan and Nadine are here to provide comfort and community to those walking an often lonely road.

Their guests - some high-profile, others everyday - share challenges posed by age, health, sexual orientation, prejudice and plain bad luck. They offer tales of resilience, tenacity, heartache and hope. So, whether you’re in the race of your life, you’ve been there before, or you know someone who is struggling, this is a must-listen podcast.

Trigger Warning: This podcast covers topics that will be upsetting for some, including miscarriage, stillbirth and infertility. A range of organisations can help. For support around miscarriage and stillbirth see wheturangitia.services.govt.nz. For support with fertility visit fertilitynz.org.nz.

Making a baby isn't necessarily easy. One in four people in Aotearoa-New Zealand experience infertility - and half of those need medical help to get pregnant.
Then there are people challenged by circumstances rather than health concerns - singles, members of Rainbow communities ...But it&rsquo;s still a subject many have trouble talking about.
In The Human Race, Dan and Nadine Higgins meet Kiwis who&rsquo;ve spent years trying to make a tiny human before it&rsquo;s too late. After experiencing a long fertility fight of their own, Dan and Nadine are here to provide comfort and community to those walking an often lonely road.
Their guests - some high-profile, others everyday - share challenges posed by age, health, sexual orientation, prejudice and plain bad luck. They offer tales of resilience, tenacity, heartache and hope. So, whether you&rsquo;re in the race of your life, you&rsquo;ve been there before, or you know someone who is struggling, this is a must-listen podcast.
Trigger Warning:&nbsp;This podcast covers topics that will be upsetting for some, including miscarriage, stillbirth and infertility. A range of organisations can help. For support around miscarriage and stillbirth see <a href="https://wheturangitia.services.govt.nz/">wheturangitia.services.govt.nz</a>. For support with fertility visit <a href="https://www.fertilitynz.org.nz/">fertilitynz.org.nz</a>.

Dan and Nadine Higgins meet people in the race of their life - to create a life.

The Human Race

Making a baby isn't necessarily easy. One in four people in Aotearoa-New Zealand experience infertility - and half of those need medical help to get pregnant.

Then there are people challenged by circumstances rather than health concerns - singles, members of Rainbow communities ...But it’s still a subject many have trouble talking about.

In The Human Race, Dan and Nadine Higgins meet Kiwis who’ve spent years trying to make a tiny human before it’s too late. After experiencing a long fertility fight of their own, Dan and Nadine are here to provide comfort and community to those walking an often lonely road.

Their guests - some high-profile, others everyday - share challenges posed by age, health, sexual orientation, prejudice and plain bad luck. They offer tales of resilience, tenacity, heartache and hope. So, whether you’re in the race of your life, you’ve been there before, or you know someone who is struggling, this is a must-listen podcast.

Trigger Warning: This podcast covers topics that will be upsetting for some, including miscarriage, stillbirth and infertility. A range of organisations can help. For support around miscarriage and stillbirth see wheturangitia.services.govt.nz. For support with fertility visit fertilitynz.org.nz.

Originally published in 2023. 

Making a baby isn't necessarily easy. One in four people in Aotearoa-New Zealand experience infertility - and half of those need medical help to get pregnant.
Then there are people challenged by circumstances rather than health concerns - singles, members of Rainbow communities ...But it&rsquo;s still a subject many have trouble talking about.
In The Human Race, Dan and Nadine Higgins meet Kiwis who&rsquo;ve spent years trying to make a tiny human before it&rsquo;s too late. After experiencing a long fertility fight of their own, Dan and Nadine are here to provide comfort and community to those walking an often lonely road.
Their guests - some high-profile, others everyday - share challenges posed by age, health, sexual orientation, prejudice and plain bad luck. They offer tales of resilience, tenacity, heartache and hope. So, whether you&rsquo;re in the race of your life, you&rsquo;ve been there before, or you know someone who is struggling, this is a must-listen podcast.
Trigger Warning:&nbsp;This podcast covers topics that will be upsetting for some, including miscarriage, stillbirth and infertility. A range of organisations can help. For support around miscarriage and stillbirth see <a href="https://wheturangitia.services.govt.nz/">wheturangitia.services.govt.nz</a>. For support with fertility visit <a href="https://www.fertilitynz.org.nz/">fertilitynz.org.nz</a>.
Originally published in 2023.&nbsp;

Episode 2: Sasha & Taryn 

In the final episode of the season, Dan and Nadine reflect on the story behind the show and what they've learned from their guests. They also share an update on their own journey.

Originally published in 2023. 

In the final episode of the season, Dan and Nadine reflect on the story behind the show and what they've learned from their guests. They also share an update on their own journey.
Originally published in 2023.&nbsp;

Episode 9: The Finish Line

Jessica Jordan always knew she wanted to become a Mum, “I just had this huge maternal drive to nurture”. She didn’t want to simply wait for the universe to deliver a partner, so Jessica decided to go it alone. She encountered a series of obstacles; a diagnosis of endometriosis, low ovarian reserve, a previous surgical injury to one of her Fallopian tubes, unsuccessful transfers, a miscarriage, and an additional surgery, on her path to becoming a mother, finally conceiving her daughter Hazel.

Originally published in 2023. 

Jessica Jordan always knew she wanted to become a Mum, &ldquo;I just had this huge maternal drive to nurture&rdquo;. She didn&rsquo;t want to simply wait for the universe to deliver a partner, so Jessica decided to go it alone. She encountered a series of obstacles; a diagnosis of endometriosis, low ovarian reserve, a previous surgical injury to one of her Fallopian tubes, unsuccessful transfers, a miscarriage, and an additional surgery, on her path to becoming a mother, finally conceiving her daughter Hazel.
Originally published in 2023.&nbsp;

Episode 8: Jessica Jordan 

In the second - and final - part of Emma Saunders' story, she talks about facing the outcome of her fertility journey and the positives in her life. "You get better at living with it," she tells Dan and Nadine.

Originally published in 2023. 

In the second - and final - part of Emma Saunders' story, she talks about facing the outcome of her fertility journey and the positives in her life. "You get better at living with it," she tells Dan and Nadine.
Originally published in 2023.&nbsp;

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