Thanks for listening to The Herd podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday from twelve to three eastern, nine to noon Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and FS one. Find your local station for The Herd at Fox Sports Radio dot com, or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching Herd. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Here we go. It's the Power Hour, hour three. We're live in Los Angeles. It's The Herd wherever you may be and however you may be listening iHeartRadio, Fox Sports Radio FS one. I want to thank Tom Brady for us stopping by about forty minutes ago, thirty minutes ago. Good to talk to him. Talked about his future here at Fox Sports. He will begin at Fox Sports the season of twenty twenty four, so he's going to have sort of a gap, gonna learn broadcasting, take some time off exhale, which I think's the right call. Strongly agree with exhaling. He played. I forget the number he told us he gave football. How many years of his life high school, college, pro football? Football really is an eleven month grind? I mean in our business, I guess if I was a Canadian sportscaster, I talk hockey for eleven months, or if I was in England, I would talk to the English Premier League Jason McIntyre joining us. But I mean, I'll take you know, June is pretty much NBA month on this show, NBA Finals obviously, you know late May June, but I mean by July, you know, starting to camps and moves. I mean February. Now you take a little breather, but March is free agency, and then April it's combine and draft OTAs I think after that. So it's the bottom line is this sport takes a lot from you, a lot draining. I'm surprised by the way you didn't ask Brady about Kyrie Irving. I thought he would have. I was deep penetrating thoughts on you know, foreign stars seem to work in Dallas. Dirks from Germany, right, Lucas from Slovenia, and Kyrie Irving is from Mars. So basically anyone you know a foreign country or planet comes to work with the Mavericks. I thought Brady would have some insight on. Yeah, I was going to do a probing NBA breakdown, but I decided to pass. All right, let's bring in Greg co Sell forty three films. Okay, so this is gonna this is the breakdown for the Super Bowl. So there's a lot of interesting stuff here for our audience because I'm kind of a go either way guy on this Super Bowl. So let's what is the So Tyreek Hill leaves, everybody freaks out. Oh my word. We said on this show, they'll be just as productive. It'll look different, Andy Reid, Mahomes, Travis Kelty Kelsey, they'll make it work. Well they did. But how did Mahomes evolve without the world's fastest football player Tyreek Hill? Well, I think the offense evolved, and I think one of the things and it probably will be a factor, certainly will be a factor in Super Bowl fifty seven, is this team became much more of a multiple tight end offense calling. If you look at what they've done the large majority of this season, they are among the highest percentage offenses in the NFL playing out of what we call twelve personnel meaning two tight ends and thirteen personnel with three tight ends. And this is something that we never thought about the Chiefs when they had all that firepower on the outside. Of course, with Tyreek Hill. So now that presents an issue for defenses in how they want to match up from a personnel standpoint, because that's the first thing that defenses think, Okay, the offense is in a certain personnel group, how do we match up with our personnel group. So that's one way in which the Chiefs have evolved over the course of this entire season, and that makes it a little more difficult for defenses because if you want to stay in your base defense, meaning four defensive backs on the field, you could have some issues coverage because Kelsey is essentially a wide receiver. You know, he rarely lines up attached to the offensive tackle on the line of scrimmage. I worry that the Chiefs A line can it hold up against the Eagles D line because I tend to think greg the more comfortable quarterback, The more comfortable quarterback wins about seventy five to eight NFL games. How does the Chiefs A line match up against the Eagles D line? And I think that's a really important question that will end up being determined by down in distant situations. If the Chiefs can, let's say, maintain an offense where they stay ahead of the sticks meaning the use of the run game, meaning the quick game throws where pass protection is a lot easier. You don't have to hold up against quality pass rushers the same way you would if it's a deep drop on let's say third and long. If the Chiefs can maintain that, then they can hold up. If it becomes a situation where there's more and more long yardage situations, then I think the issue becomes on the outside with the two tackles Orlando Brown and Wiley at right tackle, because I don't think they can consistently hold up against Josh Schwett working against Brown and against Hassan Reddick working against Wiley. I think that would become a major advantage for the Eagles, but that would become very dependent column as you suggested, on down and distance situations. Eagles secondary great corners is you know? I saw Brandon i Yuk say Mahomes will eat it up. We would have eaten it up. I don't buy the Eagles back end or the Eagles defense. What what do you see holes that Mahomes can nibble away at on the back end for Philadelphia holes maybe too strong, but I think that there are some concerns. The question becomes Jonathan Gannon and what his approach made be. The Eagles have not been a high hypercentage man coverage team, so the question is do they stay playing a lot of zone or do they maybe increase their man to man percentage. Now, if they do that, the question is who matches up to Kelsey? And I would imagine it would be CJ. Gardner Johnson. That would be my guest if they decide to go man to man. Now, could they also put CJ. Gardner Johnson on a wide receiver and match up a corner on Kelsey. That is certainly very possible because we know there are always tweaks when a team has two weeks to prepare. And now, again that wouldn't be on every single play. They're not going to play man coverage one of their snaps, but more than likely they will play man coverage in this game. And then you have the Kelsey factor on who was going to match up to him, because let's assume ivant To Maddox plays in the slot, and that's an unknown as you and I today on Monday. But if a Vanta Mannox plays in the slot, then the safeties will be Epps and Gardner Johnson. So now you have Gardner Johnson as the likely matchup on Kelsey. All right, let's talk to Eagles Jalen Hurts. Yeah, when you've watched Hurts succeed this year, what is he able to do when is he it is most comfortable? What will he have to do to have success when is he it is most successful? Well, I think they're at their most successful when they can work off all the elements and all the variables that the run game gives them, because Hurts is in the shotgun on almost every snap, and there's so many plays that can come from that. You know, we did this last week when we did the play and I spoke about just one play that had five different potential plays that could come from it based on the formation. That is where they are most dangerous, and that's where they're very, very difficult to defend. And then when it can work the pass game off of that, very often they get matchups that are effective or they put players in conflict. That's the other issue that you face when you have the quarterback being such a in some ways unique factor in the run game, is you get defenders who are put in conflict and it makes the reads easier, you know, relatively speaking, and it makes the defined throws easier relatively speaking. And that's where I think the Eagles are really really strong, is their run game break because of their old line. I think Miles Sanders pretty clever back well might what makes it all work? Is it just hall of famers upfront? Well, their on line is really really good in the run game. I mean, you look at the left side of that old line. That's a lot of man on the left side of my ida. I mean you're talking what maybe close to seven hundred pounds of man on the left side of that line. You know, that is really really difficult. We saw that last week, or you know, in the in the NFC Championship game against a really good deal one. You saw Reggie Javon Kinlaw excuse me, at three hundred and fifteen, three hundred twenty pounds Armstead a big man. Those guys were moved. And that's where the Eagles I think I would think have an advantage. I mean, we know Chris Jones is a great, great player. You know, actually Naddy is a really strong inside run defender as well. But this is a really strong offensive line, and I gotta tell you. I mean, Kelsey is so good at center, and he's been really physical too over the last month or so. We always think about him Colin is being an athletic movement center because that's been a strength of his game for his entire career, maybe the most defining element. But he has moved people over the last month. I mean in the playoffs, Justin Ellis of the Giants, he just lifted him and moved him. So this is a really big, physical offensive line. And I think the Eagles as good as Chris Jones is, I think the Eagles do have an advantage there. Be sure to catch live edition of The Herd weekdays and noon Easter, not a Empacific. Yeah. I also don't love the Chiefs young secondary against the receivers. That's what really worries me. I don't know if Jalen Hurts is close to one hundred percent, but I think the weakest unit on the field will be the Chiefs young secondary. Is that what the film says? Yeah, there's two parts to that number. One. Jalen Hurts and maybe it's due to injury, but he's going to have to play better than he did in the two playoff wins. Which sounds odd because they won both games big, but he did not play at the same level he did before the injury. He's going to have to be more efficient from the pocket. And you're right, I mean Snead the corner got hurt with a concussion. I guess we don't know if he's going to play. If he doesn't play, when they go to their dime defense with six defensive backs, there's four rookies playing, and you know, that's really unheard of in a Super Bowl, and I think that's an area that the Eagles will look to exploit. I mean, obviously we know A J. Brown Divine Smith, they are really really good. Smith is such a refined, nuanced, detailed route runner. He's one of my most favorite receivers to watch, just the way he knows how to use his steps, his vertical stem. He has tremendous body control. And we know that a J. Brown is a big, physical wide out. He's really good on those inbreakers that are a staple of what they do off all the run action in the backfield and the RPO concepts. So yes, this is this is an area where I think, again, you'd probably look for the Eagles to have an advantage. Greg co Sell forty three years, NFL films, Little Super Bowl Breakdown. Great seeing you on a Monday, Greg. All right, thanks Colin, I appreciate it. Yeah, he points out, this is why this game. To me, there are absolute advantages Philadelphia has in personnel against Kansas City. But if Jalen Hurts isn't accurate, and he wasn't terribly accurate against the Niners, it's a different story. So to me, Philadelphia is the better overall football team with more really really good athletes. But Andy Reid, Travis Kelcey Maholmes can change anything. So it's I think Philadelphia has advantages, but can they land the punches? Can they land the openings? Jalen lacked touch. Giants didn't need it, but against the Niners he lacked touch. You're not winning the Super Bowl against Mahomes if you're missing open opportunities. But how much of that lacking touch was due to the forty nine Ers defense, which was touchs in the league. I did look up a stat doing some prop work this weekend. Do you want to know where the Chiefs did rank defending number one wide receivers this season? How thirty first in the NFL. I know Sneat is good, but they got lit up by number one. I saw that during blazing five picks. I saw that number one to put some shekels on AJ Brown to win the MVP of the Super Bowl. I don't hate that bet now. I bet it last week a better number Cooper Cup. Last year it would have been T Higgins. By the way, if the Bengals one, remember he had like one hundred yards two touchdowns. This could be a big AJ Brown game. But as you said, will the touch be there for h The matchup favor strongly Philadelphia in the back end. Can Jalen hit on him because they'll be open players and matchup and the line will be protecting against Chris Jones and Clark, I mean elite offensive line. Hurts is gonna have time if he's healthy. I like the Eagles. Well, I told you that was my initials. You said you might be flip flop. I'm during the break. I told you it's hard to bet Andy Reid off a bye. You give him two weeks. They're going to bring out all sorts of stuff. They take leads on people. All of a sudden, it's fourteen to three or fourteen. All of a sudden, Philadelphia just has a fumble, makes a mistake. Then it gets into Jalen Hurt's head. He starts pressing, I know Philadelphia has got more good players. That's that's an easy one. They have seventeen players who made the Pro Bowl or we're all alternates. That's not the issue. The issue is when you get these opportunities, will young Jalen Hurts land the punches because these are gonna be openings right. Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays in noon Easter nine am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio FS one and the iHeartRadio app. Hey what's up everybody? It's me three time pro bowler Levarrington and I couldn't be more excited to announce a new podcast called Up on Game? What is Up on Game? You asked, along with my fellow pro bowler T J. Huschmanzata and Super Bowl champion Yep, that's right, Plexico Birds. You can only name a show with that type of talent on it. 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So while you were talking to mister Brady, Sean Payton was being introduced as the Broncos head coach. Is our colleague of ours? Yeah, looks excited to be wearing that. What color is it? Ange? Oh? I want to hear his interview. Wow, we got we got a quote. Don't worry. Um he wanted He spoke about evaluating the current roster and how he plans to work with the great Russell Wilson was what I know. I know he's a hard worker. I know he's an extremely hard worker. That's important and I think you take that you understand the skill set. He's won a lot of games in Seattle. It's easy to point out what players don't do well, and there's certain coaches that tend to look at it that way. But I kind of was taught early on, Hey what is it they do well? And let's have them do those things. None of us want to go I don't like singing, period, but none of us want to be at a karaoke bar with a song we don't know the words too. So how do we how do we get them comfortable and highlight their strengths. And that's the process that's going to begin right now. Is I'm learning about every one of these players, not just Russell. You got yeah. I was told this years ago by a general manager. You got to know your players first before you worry about anybody Else's what do your players do? You know? Give Ballotchick credit? You know New England. I've had so many players tell me this never asked players to do what they couldn't do. And I love that, Carrie. When you go to dinner with Sean, he uses metaphors and analogies like that all the time. That's a great example. You don't want to sing the karaoke song you don't know the words too. Basically, he's sang, what's Russell do? I'm gonna watch twenty games of film? Here's what he does. I'm gonna lean right into it. Because didn't you and I and the world complained last year? We said Hackett brought an offense. It wasn't working for Russell. He brought Aaron's offense. Russell is football on grass. You at the end of the year he was moving more. Oh, the offense was better. So like Nathaniel Hackett, it's a guy. You can't just bring an offense. Sean's gonna go. And and by the way, Sean had Taysom Hill. Taysom Hill moves, so you know, he had Drew Brees who didn't move. He had one offense or Taysom Hill. He had another offense. And so I think what when I talked to Sean about this, The term he used to me at dinner was you know a little bit of a basketball on grass, which is you gotta move him. This is what Russell's brilliant at. That intuitive perception of where defenders are, how not to get hit, how to move. That's very rare lean into it. I think all year we were always complaining about why aren't they moving Russell Wilson in the pocket? You know it's gonna be tough next year on this show with the AFC Westkeller. Obviously we know Peyton kind of well. He was on the show Love and Retire season. You love Andy Reid, I like Patrick Mahones and then I have a man crush on Justin Herbert and I think you're a fan of his work. And you know I got buddies who are Charger season ticket holders. That's an awesome division. Let's see what the Raiders do at quarterback. I hope they don't get Aaron Rodgers. Well, I mean thinking about you wait too much. Here's what I'm amazed at is that. And I think there are people on the Internet Internet they just want to disagree like that, They want to troll. No nobody does that on social media. Now for the people that don't think Sean Payton is going to succeed in Denver, and I'm not saying Super Bowls, folks. He took the worst organization in football, the Saints, from three wins to the NFC championship in the far packer years in one year. Wait, you don't think he can win games here? Like I think there are people that just want to disagree control a lot of people, and they do this with gambling. What they just saw is all that matters to them last week last season, Russell Wilson's things, Shawn Watson's garbage, Like, that's what people see. And you're like, you're forgetting that. These guys had careers before last season, you know, and they're really talented players. Yeah, ten eleven wins next year for the Broncos. Just lock it up. I'm at ten right now. Yeah, eleven's hard, but I am a nine schedule in the order. Remember, are they gonna be healthy going? You know? Season's gonna be a little interesting. We'll see what moves they make. I still believe Jerry Judy could be on the move as well as other players. Maybe defensively they meet some draft picks. Interesting. Next up more NFL news breaking Colin the Cardinals obviously were terrible last year. They just won four games. They had that blowout Laws to the Chiefs and Safety. Buddha Bakers said that the Week one Laws showed them they weren't as prepared listen closely as they had thought for the start of the season. Here's Buddha Baker, one of the leaders on Arizona. I definitely felt like we were on the right path and trading camp, it was definitely starting to not see a lot of starters practicing and stuff like that because I knew, you know, especially with the preseason games. None of us played in the preseason. It's kind of just going through trading camp, which was not a lot of people, and then we get to Week one. It showed who was prepared. I don't think we were as prepared in the beginning when it all started, then we should have been. That's on Kingsbury. Well, I don't think just Kingsbury. I think Kyler Murray as well, who wasn't doing the homework and watching the video and if you didn't think there was enough going on in Arizona. Aj Green just announced his retirement on social media. I know he has tailed off in the last couple of years, but that's another veteran in the locker room who's gone JJ Watt, Larry Fitzgerald, AJ Green in the last few years failing Arizona, didn't they bring those guys in to help with leadership and they're all the glue guys who have talent or leaving. How's that coaching search going in Arizona? You remember my prediction earlier with Brian Flores, a lot of people think he's the guy. Well, what are they waiting for? What do you think to hold up is Well, we're gonna be in Arizona later this week. We should do some journalism, get on the ground, boots on the ground journalism. Yeah, we'll see what's happening right with Arizona and Kyler Murray. Hopefully I will run into him because you know I've been kind of harsh on him on the show. Final story. This stinks. Colin Steph Curry, my guy, look at that bump knees with I don't even know who it was, somebody on the Mavericks. It looks like in the third quarter Saturday night, the team announced personally torn ligaments in his leg, also a contusion, which is a fancy word for Bruce Curry expected to week miss multiple full weeks. Okay, three weeks, they'll be resting for the playoffs. But they're like a five hundred team right now, jan Pool, so they got they have a scoring guard that Jordan Pool can score. Okay, Now their problem is they're gonna have to play Moody and because they're not playing wise man, Kuminga is not getting a ton of minutes. Uh d Vincenzo, he's not bad. Solid role player tie Jerome okay and performer UVA guy. But here's the problem. If you're still hovering at five foot, Let's say Koree misses fifteen more games. Is that fair? Fifteen fifteen games? You don't play five a week, play like three or four a week. He'll miss what are you gonna say, twelve twelve games? Let's say in their twelve games they're playtly twenty seven and twenty six eight in the West. Okay, if they play twelve games Korea, who do they play? Because the bottom of the league is awful, do they get some Orlandos? I'll call up the schedule. Bottom line is they're treading water to well in the play you know, the NFL, the NBA, is uneven. The bottom teams are awful, So who do they play? Do they get? I have the schedule now, call they have a lot of TV games coming up. Okay, see is tonight? Okay, Portland Wednesday. Those should be two wins. But again, Portland's got some young players. I like. Then the Lakers. On February eleven, Washington Paper clips Lakers again, Houston, Minnesota, Portland. Actually, you're right, this is not great teams in there, so maybe they catch a break. Let's just remember, can they go six and six with that schedule? I absolutely Draymond's not missing games, clays Nott missing games. Wiseman's gonna be forced into lineup. Pool's gotta play like thirty five minutes. There's not a lot of room for error. Warriors, Are they gonna be a playing team? Colin? They're gonna be a five hundred team during the staff absence, and then the last ten games they'll turn it on and they'll be in the Western Conference finals. Not sayin it. I gotta see their help. I don't know what to make of this Western Conference gone, Like if Denver and Memphis there's the teams to be somebody's gonna sneak in there? Would it be the Lakers? Oh? God, we haven't talked to Eddy Lakers today. What's to say? Why aren't they trading for Zach Levine? I know gen Buss is watching Genie. Wake up Zach Levine. See the stats on Russell Westbrook I put on Instagram this morning. No, Zach's not a winning player. Sorry. Russell Westbrook has the lowest field goal percentage of all the players who qualify on outside shooting this season, worst than the NBA. He's the worst shooter in the league. We know that. What are we doing? What are we doing? You're from Philadelphia? I'm not from Philadelphia. Last week it was Hoboken. I had a buddy come up to me go, I'm gonna call you Hoboken from now on. Where did Calhern get that? And I was like, I have no not from Philadelphia, okay, or to New York and virgin raised in Northern Virginia, Okay, okay, all right? Should I start calling you London or it sounds cooler than where I'm really from? There you go, j Mack with the news. Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the third line. Oh I love that. I love that Sean Payton stuff. Yeah, like there's certain things. There's just not a lot of great right. Sean Payton's a great coach. He went to the worst organization in the entire league three wins, called the Aints fans warpaper bags. They had been to I think one playoff game in forty years. He shows up, They go to nine in fifteen. What are we arguing about? What are you last year is the greatest? Not this past year, Sean Payton's last year. They go nine to eight and the only reason they don't make the playoffs is because the Niners beat the Rams in overtime. I believe otherwise they're in. Go back to that year. Brady was in your division. Michael Thomas, the star receiver, didn't play Alvin Kamarmis four games, They had multiple injuries, and they played their way into the playoffs. But the Niners beat the Rams and ot or they're in. I believe that was the game top my head. I mean he was working with again Andy Dalton, Trevor Simeon, and Jamis Winston. By the way, Breeze gets a Taysom Hill. What did I say, Yeah, Simeon, Taysom Hill him mine. He had a bunch of below average quarterbacks still got him to nine and eight. Yeah, so this will be you could argue the best quarterback he's had since Breeze retired, right for Sean Payton, Well yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, and and and for the record, Breeze in the last three years of his career did not throw the ball deep downfield. The Saints outsmarted you, but they didn't get any cheap touchdowns. They weren't going over the top. Michael Thomas became I had two different sources tell me that Michael Thomas is a lot of work. I mean, you know, it's not like it's anything illegal. He's not a drinker's marker party. That's not his thing. He's a lot of work. Michael's a lot of work. Yes, And so they had a lot of drama behind the scenes that didn't get out. I told you, I sat next to a very connected person of the Saints on a flight a year ago and he told me that it was this is when Sean was coaching the last year. He said, there's a lot of stuff behind the scenes that hasn't been reported. Sean's holding it together. It's a lot That's why Sean retired. It was exhausting, so Breeze was leaving. Sean was like, I need time out. His last year in New Orleans was a lot of work and they still haven't cleaned up all of it. So there you go, and remember he won. Sean Payton won in New Orleans. They had Katrina, his GM became an NBA GM part time. They got suspended for a year. They had a lot of stuff there. Was not easy in New Orleans.

Thanks for listening to The Herd podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday from twelve to three eastern, nine to noon Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and FS one. Find your local station for The Herd at Fox Sports Radio dot com, or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching Herd. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Here we go. It's the Power Hour, hour three. We're live in Los Angeles. It's The Herd wherever you may be and however you may be listening iHeartRadio, Fox Sports Radio FS one. I want to thank Tom Brady for us stopping by about forty minutes ago, thirty minutes ago. Good to talk to him. Talked about his future here at Fox Sports. He will begin at Fox Sports the season of twenty twenty four, so he's going to have sort of a gap, gonna learn broadcasting, take some time off exhale, which I think's the right call. Strongly agree with exhaling. He played. I forget the number he told us he gave football. How many years of his life high school, college, pro football? Football really is an eleven month grind? I mean in our business, I guess if I was a Canadian sportscaster, I talk hockey for eleven months, or if I was in England, I would talk to the English Premier League Jason McIntyre joining us. But I mean, I'll take you know, June is pretty much NBA month on this show, NBA Finals obviously, you know late May June, but I mean by July, you know, starting to camps and moves. I mean February. Now you take a little breather, but March is free agency, and then April it's combine and draft OTAs I think after that. So it's the bottom line is this sport takes a lot from you, a lot draining. I'm surprised by the way you didn't ask Brady about Kyrie Irving. I thought he would have. I was deep penetrating thoughts on you know, foreign stars seem to work in Dallas. Dirks from Germany, right, Lucas from Slovenia, and Kyrie Irving is from Mars. So basically anyone you know a foreign country or planet comes to work with the Mavericks. I thought Brady would have some insight on. Yeah, I was going to do a probing NBA breakdown, but I decided to pass. All right, let's bring in Greg co Sell forty three films. Okay, so this is gonna this is the breakdown for the Super Bowl. So there's a lot of interesting stuff here for our audience because I'm kind of a go either way guy on this Super Bowl. So let's what is the So Tyreek Hill leaves, everybody freaks out. Oh my word. We said on this show, they'll be just as productive. It'll look different, Andy Reid, Mahomes, Travis Kelty Kelsey, they'll make it work. Well they did. But how did Mahomes evolve without the world's fastest football player Tyreek Hill? Well, I think the offense evolved, and I think one of the things and it probably will be a factor, certainly will be a factor in Super Bowl fifty seven, is this team became much more of a multiple tight end offense calling. If you look at what they've done the large majority of this season, they are among the highest percentage offenses in the NFL playing out of what we call twelve personnel meaning two tight ends and thirteen personnel with three tight ends. And this is something that we never thought about the Chiefs when they had all that firepower on the outside. Of course, with Tyreek Hill. So now that presents an issue for defenses in how they want to match up from a personnel standpoint, because that's the first thing that defenses think, Okay, the offense is in a certain personnel group, how do we match up with our personnel group. So that's one way in which the Chiefs have evolved over the course of this entire season, and that makes it a little more difficult for defenses because if you want to stay in your base defense, meaning four defensive backs on the field, you could have some issues coverage because Kelsey is essentially a wide receiver. You know, he rarely lines up attached to the offensive tackle on the line of scrimmage. I worry that the Chiefs A line can it hold up against the Eagles D line because I tend to think greg the more comfortable quarterback, The more comfortable quarterback wins about seventy five to eight NFL games. How does the Chiefs A line match up against the Eagles D line? And I think that's a really important question that will end up being determined by down in distant situations. If the Chiefs can, let's say, maintain an offense where they stay ahead of the sticks meaning the use of the run game, meaning the quick game throws where pass protection is a lot easier. You don't have to hold up against quality pass rushers the same way you would if it's a deep drop on let's say third and long. If the Chiefs can maintain that, then they can hold up. If it becomes a situation where there's more and more long yardage situations, then I think the issue becomes on the outside with the two tackles Orlando Brown and Wiley at right tackle, because I don't think they can consistently hold up against Josh Schwett working against Brown and against Hassan Reddick working against Wiley. I think that would become a major advantage for the Eagles, but that would become very dependent column as you suggested, on down and distance situations. Eagles secondary great corners is you know? I saw Brandon i Yuk say Mahomes will eat it up. We would have eaten it up. I don't buy the Eagles back end or the Eagles defense. What what do you see holes that Mahomes can nibble away at on the back end for Philadelphia holes maybe too strong, but I think that there are some concerns. The question becomes Jonathan Gannon and what his approach made be. The Eagles have not been a high hypercentage man coverage team, so the question is do they stay playing a lot of zone or do they maybe increase their man to man percentage. Now, if they do that, the question is who matches up to Kelsey? And I would imagine it would be CJ. Gardner Johnson. That would be my guest if they decide to go man to man. Now, could they also put CJ. Gardner Johnson on a wide receiver and match up a corner on Kelsey. That is certainly very possible because we know there are always tweaks when a team has two weeks to prepare. And now, again that wouldn't be on every single play. They're not going to play man coverage one of their snaps, but more than likely they will play man coverage in this game. And then you have the Kelsey factor on who was going to match up to him, because let's assume ivant To Maddox plays in the slot, and that's an unknown as you and I today on Monday. But if a Vanta Mannox plays in the slot, then the safeties will be Epps and Gardner Johnson. So now you have Gardner Johnson as the likely matchup on Kelsey. All right, let's talk to Eagles Jalen Hurts. Yeah, when you've watched Hurts succeed this year, what is he able to do when is he it is most comfortable? What will he have to do to have success when is he it is most successful? Well, I think they're at their most successful when they can work off all the elements and all the variables that the run game gives them, because Hurts is in the shotgun on almost every snap, and there's so many plays that can come from that. You know, we did this last week when we did the play and I spoke about just one play that had five different potential plays that could come from it based on the formation. That is where they are most dangerous, and that's where they're very, very difficult to defend. And then when it can work the pass game off of that, very often they get matchups that are effective or they put players in conflict. That's the other issue that you face when you have the quarterback being such a in some ways unique factor in the run game, is you get defenders who are put in conflict and it makes the reads easier, you know, relatively speaking, and it makes the defined throws easier relatively speaking. And that's where I think the Eagles are really really strong, is their run game break because of their old line. I think Miles Sanders pretty clever back well might what makes it all work? Is it just hall of famers upfront? Well, their on line is really really good in the run game. I mean, you look at the left side of that old line. That's a lot of man on the left side of my ida. I mean you're talking what maybe close to seven hundred pounds of man on the left side of that line. You know, that is really really difficult. We saw that last week, or you know, in the in the NFC Championship game against a really good deal one. You saw Reggie Javon Kinlaw excuse me, at three hundred and fifteen, three hundred twenty pounds Armstead a big man. Those guys were moved. And that's where the Eagles I think I would think have an advantage. I mean, we know Chris Jones is a great, great player. You know, actually Naddy is a really strong inside run defender as well. But this is a really strong offensive line, and I gotta tell you. I mean, Kelsey is so good at center, and he's been really physical too over the last month or so. We always think about him Colin is being an athletic movement center because that's been a strength of his game for his entire career, maybe the most defining element. But he has moved people over the last month. I mean in the playoffs, Justin Ellis of the Giants, he just lifted him and moved him. So this is a really big, physical offensive line. And I think the Eagles as good as Chris Jones is, I think the Eagles do have an advantage there. Be sure to catch live edition of The Herd weekdays and noon Easter, not a Empacific. Yeah. I also don't love the Chiefs young secondary against the receivers. That's what really worries me. I don't know if Jalen Hurts is close to one hundred percent, but I think the weakest unit on the field will be the Chiefs young secondary. Is that what the film says? Yeah, there's two parts to that number. One. Jalen Hurts and maybe it's due to injury, but he's going to have to play better than he did in the two playoff wins. Which sounds odd because they won both games big, but he did not play at the same level he did before the injury. He's going to have to be more efficient from the pocket. And you're right, I mean Snead the corner got hurt with a concussion. I guess we don't know if he's going to play. If he doesn't play, when they go to their dime defense with six defensive backs, there's four rookies playing, and you know, that's really unheard of in a Super Bowl, and I think that's an area that the Eagles will look to exploit. I mean, obviously we know A J. Brown Divine Smith, they are really really good. Smith is such a refined, nuanced, detailed route runner. He's one of my most favorite receivers to watch, just the way he knows how to use his steps, his vertical stem. He has tremendous body control. And we know that a J. Brown is a big, physical wide out. He's really good on those inbreakers that are a staple of what they do off all the run action in the backfield and the RPO concepts. So yes, this is this is an area where I think, again, you'd probably look for the Eagles to have an advantage. Greg co Sell forty three years, NFL films, Little Super Bowl Breakdown. Great seeing you on a Monday, Greg. All right, thanks Colin, I appreciate it. Yeah, he points out, this is why this game. To me, there are absolute advantages Philadelphia has in personnel against Kansas City. But if Jalen Hurts isn't accurate, and he wasn't terribly accurate against the Niners, it's a different story. So to me, Philadelphia is the better overall football team with more really really good athletes. But Andy Reid, Travis Kelcey Maholmes can change anything. So it's I think Philadelphia has advantages, but can they land the punches? Can they land the openings? Jalen lacked touch. Giants didn't need it, but against the Niners he lacked touch. You're not winning the Super Bowl against Mahomes if you're missing open opportunities. But how much of that lacking touch was due to the forty nine Ers defense, which was touchs in the league. I did look up a stat doing some prop work this weekend. Do you want to know where the Chiefs did rank defending number one wide receivers this season? How thirty first in the NFL. I know Sneat is good, but they got lit up by number one. I saw that during blazing five picks. I saw that number one to put some shekels on AJ Brown to win the MVP of the Super Bowl. I don't hate that bet now. I bet it last week a better number Cooper Cup. Last year it would have been T Higgins. By the way, if the Bengals one, remember he had like one hundred yards two touchdowns. This could be a big AJ Brown game. But as you said, will the touch be there for h The matchup favor strongly Philadelphia in the back end. Can Jalen hit on him because they'll be open players and matchup and the line will be protecting against Chris Jones and Clark, I mean elite offensive line. Hurts is gonna have time if he's healthy. I like the Eagles. Well, I told you that was my initials. You said you might be flip flop. I'm during the break. I told you it's hard to bet Andy Reid off a bye. You give him two weeks. They're going to bring out all sorts of stuff. They take leads on people. All of a sudden, it's fourteen to three or fourteen. All of a sudden, Philadelphia just has a fumble, makes a mistake. Then it gets into Jalen Hurt's head. He starts pressing, I know Philadelphia has got more good players. That's that's an easy one. They have seventeen players who made the Pro Bowl or we're all alternates. That's not the issue. The issue is when you get these opportunities, will young Jalen Hurts land the punches because these are gonna be openings right. Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays in noon Easter nine am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio FS one and the iHeartRadio app. Hey what's up everybody? It's me three time pro bowler Levarrington and I couldn't be more excited to announce a new podcast called Up on Game? What is Up on Game? You asked, along with my fellow pro bowler T J. Huschmanzata and Super Bowl champion Yep, that's right, Plexico Birds. You can only name a show with that type of talent on it. 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So while you were talking to mister Brady, Sean Payton was being introduced as the Broncos head coach. Is our colleague of ours? Yeah, looks excited to be wearing that. What color is it? Ange? Oh? I want to hear his interview. Wow, we got we got a quote. Don't worry. Um he wanted He spoke about evaluating the current roster and how he plans to work with the great Russell Wilson was what I know. I know he's a hard worker. I know he's an extremely hard worker. That's important and I think you take that you understand the skill set. He's won a lot of games in Seattle. It's easy to point out what players don't do well, and there's certain coaches that tend to look at it that way. But I kind of was taught early on, Hey what is it they do well? And let's have them do those things. None of us want to go I don't like singing, period, but none of us want to be at a karaoke bar with a song we don't know the words too. So how do we how do we get them comfortable and highlight their strengths. And that's the process that's going to begin right now. Is I'm learning about every one of these players, not just Russell. You got yeah. I was told this years ago by a general manager. You got to know your players first before you worry about anybody Else's what do your players do? You know? Give Ballotchick credit? You know New England. I've had so many players tell me this never asked players to do what they couldn't do. And I love that, Carrie. When you go to dinner with Sean, he uses metaphors and analogies like that all the time. That's a great example. You don't want to sing the karaoke song you don't know the words too. Basically, he's sang, what's Russell do? I'm gonna watch twenty games of film? Here's what he does. I'm gonna lean right into it. Because didn't you and I and the world complained last year? We said Hackett brought an offense. It wasn't working for Russell. He brought Aaron's offense. Russell is football on grass. You at the end of the year he was moving more. Oh, the offense was better. So like Nathaniel Hackett, it's a guy. You can't just bring an offense. Sean's gonna go. And and by the way, Sean had Taysom Hill. Taysom Hill moves, so you know, he had Drew Brees who didn't move. He had one offense or Taysom Hill. He had another offense. And so I think what when I talked to Sean about this, The term he used to me at dinner was you know a little bit of a basketball on grass, which is you gotta move him. This is what Russell's brilliant at. That intuitive perception of where defenders are, how not to get hit, how to move. That's very rare lean into it. I think all year we were always complaining about why aren't they moving Russell Wilson in the pocket? You know it's gonna be tough next year on this show with the AFC Westkeller. Obviously we know Peyton kind of well. He was on the show Love and Retire season. You love Andy Reid, I like Patrick Mahones and then I have a man crush on Justin Herbert and I think you're a fan of his work. And you know I got buddies who are Charger season ticket holders. That's an awesome division. Let's see what the Raiders do at quarterback. I hope they don't get Aaron Rodgers. Well, I mean thinking about you wait too much. Here's what I'm amazed at is that. And I think there are people on the Internet Internet they just want to disagree like that, They want to troll. No nobody does that on social media. Now for the people that don't think Sean Payton is going to succeed in Denver, and I'm not saying Super Bowls, folks. He took the worst organization in football, the Saints, from three wins to the NFC championship in the far packer years in one year. Wait, you don't think he can win games here? Like I think there are people that just want to disagree control a lot of people, and they do this with gambling. What they just saw is all that matters to them last week last season, Russell Wilson's things, Shawn Watson's garbage, Like, that's what people see. And you're like, you're forgetting that. These guys had careers before last season, you know, and they're really talented players. Yeah, ten eleven wins next year for the Broncos. Just lock it up. I'm at ten right now. Yeah, eleven's hard, but I am a nine schedule in the order. Remember, are they gonna be healthy going? You know? Season's gonna be a little interesting. We'll see what moves they make. I still believe Jerry Judy could be on the move as well as other players. Maybe defensively they meet some draft picks. Interesting. Next up more NFL news breaking Colin the Cardinals obviously were terrible last year. They just won four games. They had that blowout Laws to the Chiefs and Safety. Buddha Bakers said that the Week one Laws showed them they weren't as prepared listen closely as they had thought for the start of the season. Here's Buddha Baker, one of the leaders on Arizona. I definitely felt like we were on the right path and trading camp, it was definitely starting to not see a lot of starters practicing and stuff like that because I knew, you know, especially with the preseason games. None of us played in the preseason. It's kind of just going through trading camp, which was not a lot of people, and then we get to Week one. It showed who was prepared. I don't think we were as prepared in the beginning when it all started, then we should have been. That's on Kingsbury. Well, I don't think just Kingsbury. I think Kyler Murray as well, who wasn't doing the homework and watching the video and if you didn't think there was enough going on in Arizona. Aj Green just announced his retirement on social media. I know he has tailed off in the last couple of years, but that's another veteran in the locker room who's gone JJ Watt, Larry Fitzgerald, AJ Green in the last few years failing Arizona, didn't they bring those guys in to help with leadership and they're all the glue guys who have talent or leaving. How's that coaching search going in Arizona? You remember my prediction earlier with Brian Flores, a lot of people think he's the guy. Well, what are they waiting for? What do you think to hold up is Well, we're gonna be in Arizona later this week. We should do some journalism, get on the ground, boots on the ground journalism. Yeah, we'll see what's happening right with Arizona and Kyler Murray. Hopefully I will run into him because you know I've been kind of harsh on him on the show. Final story. This stinks. Colin Steph Curry, my guy, look at that bump knees with I don't even know who it was, somebody on the Mavericks. It looks like in the third quarter Saturday night, the team announced personally torn ligaments in his leg, also a contusion, which is a fancy word for Bruce Curry expected to week miss multiple full weeks. Okay, three weeks, they'll be resting for the playoffs. But they're like a five hundred team right now, jan Pool, so they got they have a scoring guard that Jordan Pool can score. Okay, Now their problem is they're gonna have to play Moody and because they're not playing wise man, Kuminga is not getting a ton of minutes. Uh d Vincenzo, he's not bad. Solid role player tie Jerome okay and performer UVA guy. But here's the problem. If you're still hovering at five foot, Let's say Koree misses fifteen more games. Is that fair? Fifteen fifteen games? You don't play five a week, play like three or four a week. He'll miss what are you gonna say, twelve twelve games? Let's say in their twelve games they're playtly twenty seven and twenty six eight in the West. Okay, if they play twelve games Korea, who do they play? Because the bottom of the league is awful, do they get some Orlandos? I'll call up the schedule. Bottom line is they're treading water to well in the play you know, the NFL, the NBA, is uneven. The bottom teams are awful, So who do they play? Do they get? I have the schedule now, call they have a lot of TV games coming up. Okay, see is tonight? Okay, Portland Wednesday. Those should be two wins. But again, Portland's got some young players. I like. Then the Lakers. On February eleven, Washington Paper clips Lakers again, Houston, Minnesota, Portland. Actually, you're right, this is not great teams in there, so maybe they catch a break. Let's just remember, can they go six and six with that schedule? I absolutely Draymond's not missing games, clays Nott missing games. Wiseman's gonna be forced into lineup. Pool's gotta play like thirty five minutes. There's not a lot of room for error. Warriors, Are they gonna be a playing team? Colin? They're gonna be a five hundred team during the staff absence, and then the last ten games they'll turn it on and they'll be in the Western Conference finals. Not sayin it. I gotta see their help. I don't know what to make of this Western Conference gone, Like if Denver and Memphis there's the teams to be somebody's gonna sneak in there? Would it be the Lakers? Oh? God, we haven't talked to Eddy Lakers today. What's to say? Why aren't they trading for Zach Levine? I know gen Buss is watching Genie. Wake up Zach Levine. See the stats on Russell Westbrook I put on Instagram this morning. No, Zach's not a winning player. Sorry. Russell Westbrook has the lowest field goal percentage of all the players who qualify on outside shooting this season, worst than the NBA. He's the worst shooter in the league. We know that. What are we doing? What are we doing? You're from Philadelphia? I'm not from Philadelphia. Last week it was Hoboken. I had a buddy come up to me go, I'm gonna call you Hoboken from now on. Where did Calhern get that? And I was like, I have no not from Philadelphia, okay, or to New York and virgin raised in Northern Virginia, Okay, okay, all right? Should I start calling you London or it sounds cooler than where I'm really from? There you go, j Mack with the news. Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the third line. Oh I love that. I love that Sean Payton stuff. Yeah, like there's certain things. There's just not a lot of great right. Sean Payton's a great coach. He went to the worst organization in the entire league three wins, called the Aints fans warpaper bags. They had been to I think one playoff game in forty years. He shows up, They go to nine in fifteen. What are we arguing about? What are you last year is the greatest? Not this past year, Sean Payton's last year. They go nine to eight and the only reason they don't make the playoffs is because the Niners beat the Rams in overtime. I believe otherwise they're in. Go back to that year. Brady was in your division. Michael Thomas, the star receiver, didn't play Alvin Kamarmis four games, They had multiple injuries, and they played their way into the playoffs. But the Niners beat the Rams and ot or they're in. I believe that was the game top my head. I mean he was working with again Andy Dalton, Trevor Simeon, and Jamis Winston. By the way, Breeze gets a Taysom Hill. What did I say, Yeah, Simeon, Taysom Hill him mine. He had a bunch of below average quarterbacks still got him to nine and eight. Yeah, so this will be you could argue the best quarterback he's had since Breeze retired, right for Sean Payton, Well yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, and and and for the record, Breeze in the last three years of his career did not throw the ball deep downfield. The Saints outsmarted you, but they didn't get any cheap touchdowns. They weren't going over the top. Michael Thomas became I had two different sources tell me that Michael Thomas is a lot of work. I mean, you know, it's not like it's anything illegal. He's not a drinker's marker party. That's not his thing. He's a lot of work. Michael's a lot of work. Yes, And so they had a lot of drama behind the scenes that didn't get out. I told you, I sat next to a very connected person of the Saints on a flight a year ago and he told me that it was this is when Sean was coaching the last year. He said, there's a lot of stuff behind the scenes that hasn't been reported. Sean's holding it together. It's a lot That's why Sean retired. It was exhausting, so Breeze was leaving. Sean was like, I need time out. His last year in New Orleans was a lot of work and they still haven't cleaned up all of it. So there you go, and remember he won. Sean Payton won in New Orleans. They had Katrina, his GM became an NBA GM part time. They got suspended for a year. They had a lot of stuff there. Was not easy in New Orleans.