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Well, if there was any guest I could have picked to be on the show today, it would have been Mark Sanchez, who comes on fairly weekly for us. He did the rams Seahawks game, which was the shock of the weekend, so we wow for all of us. A game they got receivers making plays. They were playing college last year I didn't even watch. Okay, So Mark Sanchez, ten years in the NFL, led the Jets obviously to AFC Championships.

Well, if there was any guest I could have picked to be on the show today, it would have been Mark Sanchez, who comes on fairly weekly for us. He did the rams Seahawks game, which was the shock of the weekend, so we wow for all of us. A game they got receivers making plays. They were playing college last year I didn't even watch. Okay, So Mark Sanchez, ten years in the NFL, led the Jets obviously to AFC Championships.

He knows the city very well.

He knows the city very well.

So I don't want to speculate nor to you, but I was talking to a GM, Steve Kaim last night, a former GM, and I said, you know, a forty year old or a thirty nine year old with a torn achilles is not a twenty two year old linebacker. It's hard, rehabs brutal for a young player that didn't get the bag, doesn't have the legacy the Super Bowl.

So I don't want to speculate nor to you, but I was talking to a GM, Steve Kaim last night, a former GM, and I said, you know, a forty year old or a thirty nine year old with a torn achilles is not a twenty two year old linebacker. It's hard, rehabs brutal for a young player that didn't get the bag, doesn't have the legacy the Super Bowl.

Aaron's gone all that.

Aaron's gone all that.

It's a mental game, are you? And I said this, if Aaron went six months into this rehab and then just waved the white flag and said it's not healing, what is your gut feeling about what he's going through? Maybe mentally is an older player in a tough surgery.

It's a mental game, are you? And I said this, if Aaron went six months into this rehab and then just waved the white flag and said it's not healing, what is your gut feeling about what he's going through? Maybe mentally is an older player in a tough surgery.

I've had a season wiped away in one play when I hurt my shoulder. So I know that rollercoaster of emotions that he's feeling because you put so much into it, and you ask so much of yourself during the offseason and so much sacrifice for something you absolutely love and then it's gone like that. And so coming to that realization of I'm not playing football for the rest of this year, you lose a little bit of your identity number one psychologically, and then you go into this like think of like Christian Bale when he has to go like down in that deep dark pit in Batman, right, and he's got to be like in the muck and the mire and just kind of like hang with himself and toughen himself up and get into this injury cocoon where you kind of block out everybody and you build this new reality of Okay, a couple days ago, I was just slinging the ball and doing whatever I wanted to do with this shoulder. And now I mean I can barely add of surgery, move it in circles, hanging with like gravity, letting it move.

I've had a season wiped away in one play when I hurt my shoulder. So I know that rollercoaster of emotions that he's feeling because you put so much into it, and you ask so much of yourself during the offseason and so much sacrifice for something you absolutely love and then it's gone like that. And so coming to that realization of I'm not playing football for the rest of this year, you lose a little bit of your identity number one psychologically, and then you go into this like think of like Christian Bale when he has to go like down in that deep dark pit in Batman, right, and he's got to be like in the muck and the mire and just kind of like hang with himself and toughen himself up and get into this injury cocoon where you kind of block out everybody and you build this new reality of Okay, a couple days ago, I was just slinging the ball and doing whatever I wanted to do with this shoulder. And now I mean I can barely add of surgery, move it in circles, hanging with like gravity, letting it move.

So he's going to go through a lot of that.

So he's going to go through a lot of that.

He's gonna be on a scooter for a little bit, he's gonna be on a boot in a boot for a little bit. And you you start to create this like fictitious or like imaginary ladder of these rungs you have to hit, yeah, and those become your new Sundays. Those become your new milestones and markers of Okay, this is where I have to get by next week. I need this much range of motion. I need this much blank, I need this much blank. Okay, fine, that's my next test. Do we pass or do we not?

He's gonna be on a scooter for a little bit, he's gonna be on a boot in a boot for a little bit. And you you start to create this like fictitious or like imaginary ladder of these rungs you have to hit, yeah, and those become your new Sundays. Those become your new milestones and markers of Okay, this is where I have to get by next week. I need this much range of motion. I need this much blank, I need this much blank. Okay, fine, that's my next test. Do we pass or do we not?

Have?

Have?

I regressed at all? And you're constantly with a new team and a new it's the same mindset, but with different goals and they're much smaller, and you have to you have to come to the realization that it's not the same, but you can be the same. You can get back to where you want to go. It's just so far ahead. It's like climbing a really steep mountain, right, You're not staring at the summit the whole time. It's just, Okay, we got to get to that plateau. Let's go what do we need to get to there? All right, let's go get me there? All right, I'm here. What do we need to get to the next one? And he's going to go through all that while everything's going on in the world, because unfortunately for Aaron, you know, when you take the emotions out of it, the world keeps spinning. The sun came up today and Zach Wilson's the starting quarterback for the New York Jets, and they got sixteen more games to figure out, you know what I mean. And that is a harsh realization, but it's reality. And so Aaron's going to be on his own track. The Jets are going to be on their own track at some point. Hopefully Aaron's healthy enough and he's around the team and can help, you know, Zach along the way because he can definitely use it. He's a calming press for Zach. You could tell you could see it in hard knocks. But there's also schools of thought like we don't want our hurt players around our healthy players because then it just like kind of detracts from you know what I mean, you don't want a bunch of is a terrible aph?

I regressed at all? And you're constantly with a new team and a new it's the same mindset, but with different goals and they're much smaller, and you have to you have to come to the realization that it's not the same, but you can be the same. You can get back to where you want to go. It's just so far ahead. It's like climbing a really steep mountain, right, You're not staring at the summit the whole time. It's just, Okay, we got to get to that plateau. Let's go what do we need to get to there? All right, let's go get me there? All right, I'm here. What do we need to get to the next one? And he's going to go through all that while everything's going on in the world, because unfortunately for Aaron, you know, when you take the emotions out of it, the world keeps spinning. The sun came up today and Zach Wilson's the starting quarterback for the New York Jets, and they got sixteen more games to figure out, you know what I mean. And that is a harsh realization, but it's reality. And so Aaron's going to be on his own track. The Jets are going to be on their own track at some point. Hopefully Aaron's healthy enough and he's around the team and can help, you know, Zach along the way because he can definitely use it. He's a calming press for Zach. You could tell you could see it in hard knocks. But there's also schools of thought like we don't want our hurt players around our healthy players because then it just like kind of detracts from you know what I mean, you don't want a bunch of is a terrible aph?

Well, yeah, negativity, it's yeah. So it was interesting. The run games better this year than last. The defense looks better, all those young kids. Yeah, no, I mean it was insane. Son, I'm gonna spin it positive. I'm Robert Solo. What is my speech? Okay, I come in and I say, this defense it's better than last year. This run game is better, and Zach just spent six months with Aaron, he's better, and I believe all those to be true.

Well, yeah, negativity, it's yeah. So it was interesting. The run games better this year than last. The defense looks better, all those young kids. Yeah, no, I mean it was insane. Son, I'm gonna spin it positive. I'm Robert Solo. What is my speech? Okay, I come in and I say, this defense it's better than last year. This run game is better, and Zach just spent six months with Aaron, he's better, and I believe all those to be true.

I think you're right. I agree with that.

I think you're right. I agree with that.

I think you can spin it.

I think you can spin it.

My question is Aaron was more than throwing a football when you drove to work as a jet he was the magic.

My question is Aaron was more than throwing a football when you drove to work as a jet he was the magic.

It's true.

It's true.

And you know what, and this is part of what I saw with Garrett Wilson. But there were a couple shots that I thought were incredible sight of him on the bench with Zach. I believe it was after he threw the interception, but Garrett Wilson is the one talking to Zach Wilson, telling the quarterback.

And you know what, and this is part of what I saw with Garrett Wilson. But there were a couple shots that I thought were incredible sight of him on the bench with Zach. I believe it was after he threw the interception, but Garrett Wilson is the one talking to Zach Wilson, telling the quarterback.

Like, yo, we got you. We're good.

Like, yo, we got you. We're good.

We've all put too much into this, Like we're gonna figure it out. You saw the catch he made that dude ain't losing. Randall cob ain't losing, you know, Lazard. These guys refuse to lose. And Zach started to pick up his play towards the end of the game and made a couple of crucial throws. That's gonna be the key is getting him in the right mind frame, getting him to understand when to throw balls away, when it's zone, when it's man, and how to react and how to act accordingly. But there's so much talent on that team, and there's such an urgency to win on that team, and you felt it. A lot of that was heightened by Aaron, And now that he's gone, it's like, all right, we're kind of doing this for him, We're doing this for ourselves. Like come on, man, we're not done after week one. Let's go. Let's go see how far we can take this thing. So I think there is positivity, but gosh, it's just such a crushing blow. I mean it is I haven't rooted for the Justice hard since.

We've all put too much into this, Like we're gonna figure it out. You saw the catch he made that dude ain't losing. Randall cob ain't losing, you know, Lazard. These guys refuse to lose. And Zach started to pick up his play towards the end of the game and made a couple of crucial throws. That's gonna be the key is getting him in the right mind frame, getting him to understand when to throw balls away, when it's zone, when it's man, and how to react and how to act accordingly. But there's so much talent on that team, and there's such an urgency to win on that team, and you felt it. A lot of that was heightened by Aaron, And now that he's gone, it's like, all right, we're kind of doing this for him, We're doing this for ourselves. Like come on, man, we're not done after week one. Let's go. Let's go see how far we can take this thing. So I think there is positivity, but gosh, it's just such a crushing blow. I mean it is I haven't rooted for the Justice hard since.

I played for him.

I played for him.

I feel like, you know and that one, like it was just a gut punts last night and you're just kind of crossing your fingers hoping it's not the worst, and here we are, so you got to figure it out.

I feel like, you know and that one, like it was just a gut punts last night and you're just kind of crossing your fingers hoping it's not the worst, and here we are, so you got to figure it out.

So I've always felt like the more talent somebody has as a singer is an actor. It could be Christian Bale, it could be Denzel, it can be Josh Allen, it could be Beyonce. The more talent somebody has, I'm not begging for efficiency, because when you take big swings, you have big misses.

So I've always felt like the more talent somebody has as a singer is an actor. It could be Christian Bale, it could be Denzel, it can be Josh Allen, it could be Beyonce. The more talent somebody has, I'm not begging for efficiency, because when you take big swings, you have big misses.

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So I'm not looking for Josh Allen to play like Alex Smith.

So I'm not looking for Josh Allen to play like Alex Smith.

Correct.

Correct.

I'm not looking for Lamar Jackson to have a seventy four percent completion percentage.

I'm not looking for Lamar Jackson to have a seventy four percent completion percentage.

I want the magic.

I want the magic.

Sure.

Sure.

I do worry though, that all great performers need kingmakers or support systems. He has regressed, in my opinion without Brian whatever day Bowl did sandpaper refine in his head. I think his mechanics have eroded. I mean, he's got twenty seven turnovers giveaways in since last year Week one. There's some the magic still there. But Mark, when I watch him, I think he's a little less patient.

I do worry though, that all great performers need kingmakers or support systems. He has regressed, in my opinion without Brian whatever day Bowl did sandpaper refine in his head. I think his mechanics have eroded. I mean, he's got twenty seven turnovers giveaways in since last year Week one. There's some the magic still there. But Mark, when I watch him, I think he's a little less patient.

It's it's the discernment of when to use your superpower, right, because he clearly has superpowers, just like Patrick Mahomes does, just like all these great guys have. But it's when, and it's not every down. You can't do it every down, and so you know, you got to understand, Like I live down the street from the guy. I know, the kid one of my favorite humans of all time, forget football. Whether he plays football or not, I love him as a person. But it's my job to criticize performances and critique performances. So when I make the comment last night Josh Allen ran into his own guy and fumbled the ball. Weird, Okay, I'm joking. Number one, you gotta understand, like, yeah, if that's the biggest takeaway for Josh Allen and the Bills that I tweeted that we got bigger fish to fry, like we got bigger issues. The problem was the giveaways, right, four turnovers? Trust me, dude, I've been there. When you think I can make all these throws, when you think I got this on first down when you don't need it, Oh, my guy's gonna make a play. I'm gonna get hit. Let me get rid of this ball downfield. Eh, you gotta hold yourself back. I mean, he put Whitehead in the Pro Bowl most likely. Okay, last night. I did it to Lee Boden when he was a defensive back in New England. Okay, he sent me a drink later on in the year at Super Bowl. We were both at an event for Super Bowl and he sent me a drink across the bar and he said, Hey, tell Sanchez, thanks for the Pro Bowl nod. And I see him across the bar and I was just like, all right, bro, got you, you know. And so it's this idea of you're so competitive, you have to win every single snap. And if I can relate it to other quarterbacks like Stafford, which we'll get into later, the snaps, you know, the defense guest right, and they got you dead to rights. You have no chance on this play. Those ones have to be just immediate dirt, the ball fall down, anything, but give them the satisfaction of being correct. And how do you do that? You check it down, immediately fall down, you throw the ball away, whatever it is. But the bottom line for Josh is great players have been there, Mediocre players have been there. All players have been there. Where you give the ball away? Okay, now, what what are you gonna do? How are you gonna respond to this? Where where is the tough coaching where you look him in the eye and say, listen, we can't have this at this time in the game. At some point, the situation, the situation and circumstances of the game dictate how you read some of these plays. These players are a bunch of lines drawn on paper. The situations bring those plays to life, and then the players give them a little magic. That makes sense, right, They totally The plays jump off the page. When Josh Allen runs him as opposed to somebody else, when Patrick Mahomes runs him as to somebody else, this was the plan, but this happened, and look what he did.

It's it's the discernment of when to use your superpower, right, because he clearly has superpowers, just like Patrick Mahomes does, just like all these great guys have. But it's when, and it's not every down. You can't do it every down, and so you know, you got to understand, Like I live down the street from the guy. I know, the kid one of my favorite humans of all time, forget football. Whether he plays football or not, I love him as a person. But it's my job to criticize performances and critique performances. So when I make the comment last night Josh Allen ran into his own guy and fumbled the ball. Weird, Okay, I'm joking. Number one, you gotta understand, like, yeah, if that's the biggest takeaway for Josh Allen and the Bills that I tweeted that we got bigger fish to fry, like we got bigger issues. The problem was the giveaways, right, four turnovers? Trust me, dude, I've been there. When you think I can make all these throws, when you think I got this on first down when you don't need it, Oh, my guy's gonna make a play. I'm gonna get hit. Let me get rid of this ball downfield. Eh, you gotta hold yourself back. I mean, he put Whitehead in the Pro Bowl most likely. Okay, last night. I did it to Lee Boden when he was a defensive back in New England. Okay, he sent me a drink later on in the year at Super Bowl. We were both at an event for Super Bowl and he sent me a drink across the bar and he said, Hey, tell Sanchez, thanks for the Pro Bowl nod. And I see him across the bar and I was just like, all right, bro, got you, you know. And so it's this idea of you're so competitive, you have to win every single snap. And if I can relate it to other quarterbacks like Stafford, which we'll get into later, the snaps, you know, the defense guest right, and they got you dead to rights. You have no chance on this play. Those ones have to be just immediate dirt, the ball fall down, anything, but give them the satisfaction of being correct. And how do you do that? You check it down, immediately fall down, you throw the ball away, whatever it is. But the bottom line for Josh is great players have been there, Mediocre players have been there. All players have been there. Where you give the ball away? Okay, now, what what are you gonna do? How are you gonna respond to this? Where where is the tough coaching where you look him in the eye and say, listen, we can't have this at this time in the game. At some point, the situation, the situation and circumstances of the game dictate how you read some of these plays. These players are a bunch of lines drawn on paper. The situations bring those plays to life, and then the players give them a little magic. That makes sense, right, They totally The plays jump off the page. When Josh Allen runs him as opposed to somebody else, when Patrick Mahomes runs him as to somebody else, this was the plan, but this happened, and look what he did.

Wow.

Wow.

Okay, when it doesn't work, cut bait and move on with your life. Don't make me chicken salad out of chicken crap, you know what I mean? Yeah, And so that's really where it's at. And Josh realizes it, he said in the postgame conference a press conference.

Okay, when it doesn't work, cut bait and move on with your life. Don't make me chicken salad out of chicken crap, you know what I mean? Yeah, And so that's really where it's at. And Josh realizes it, he said in the postgame conference a press conference.

He knows what the issues are.

He knows what the issues are.

It's understanding the situation, when to take the shot, when to be superman and throw on the cape, and when to just be average Joan get rid of the ball.

It's understanding the situation, when to take the shot, when to be superman and throw on the cape, and when to just be average Joan get rid of the ball.

So I think, you know, it's.

So I think, you know, it's.

Hard for super talented people to tell.

Hard for super talented people to tell.

You it is because he's gone away with it for so many years, being a little loose with the ball, that kind of thing. But bottom line to this position, and you know, I feel like we're on a nature walk or a safari. But you got to have armadillo skin and a goldfish memory, bottom line, because if you got deer skin and an elephant memory, you ain't gonna last year. It just doesn't work. It's the hardest position in sports. I don't care what anybody says. So now, waking up this morning, the sun came up. By the way, Josh Allen, You're gonna be just fine. You got another shot next Sunday, and this game can't come soon enough for him. Okay, Now, what how do you respond? Show me how you're gonna make this right, Show me how you're gonna understand what the mistakes were, get to the truth, because that's really what the day after the game is.

You it is because he's gone away with it for so many years, being a little loose with the ball, that kind of thing. But bottom line to this position, and you know, I feel like we're on a nature walk or a safari. But you got to have armadillo skin and a goldfish memory, bottom line, because if you got deer skin and an elephant memory, you ain't gonna last year. It just doesn't work. It's the hardest position in sports. I don't care what anybody says. So now, waking up this morning, the sun came up. By the way, Josh Allen, You're gonna be just fine. You got another shot next Sunday, and this game can't come soon enough for him. Okay, Now, what how do you respond? Show me how you're gonna make this right, Show me how you're gonna understand what the mistakes were, get to the truth, because that's really what the day after the game is.

Yet to the truth, get to the truth of it.

Yet to the truth, get to the truth of it.

Was I loose with the ball? Did I make the right decision? Was that the right throat? Was it a bad throw, a bad decision or a really good defensive play? Most of those were bad decisions. I saw one really really good defensive play. Okay, and he knows that. Okay, So what show me what you're gonna do? And I know the kids got more than enough talent.

Was I loose with the ball? Did I make the right decision? Was that the right throat? Was it a bad throw, a bad decision or a really good defensive play? Most of those were bad decisions. I saw one really really good defensive play. Okay, and he knows that. Okay, So what show me what you're gonna do? And I know the kids got more than enough talent.

Oh yeah, like it's all there.

Oh yeah, like it's all there.

It's just pick and choose your spots, you know, manage your missus like a golfer.

It's just pick and choose your spots, you know, manage your missus like a golfer.

Yeah. No, oh shoot, I'm way off. I'm way off the fairway here.

Yeah. No, oh shoot, I'm way off. I'm way off the fairway here.

Either I'm you know, just going for it and aiming for the green, or let's just get back on the fairway and get back in the center lane and drive fifty five and let's go.

Either I'm you know, just going for it and aiming for the green, or let's just get back on the fairway and get back in the center lane and drive fifty five and let's go.

Golf's a perfect analogous moment there, because golf is the classic.

Golf's a perfect analogous moment there, because golf is the classic.

You better have a short memory.

You better have a short memory.

Oh no, doubt the anie. It's it's unbelievable.

Oh no, doubt the anie. It's it's unbelievable.

Okay, So you did. How lucky are we? So we talked about this yesterday. I mean the Niners hammering Pittsburgh's one thing the Rams dominating the Seahawks. To me, I sat there and I thought, how is this defense doing it? Seattle couldn't get first down? So you did the game. The one thing we came back and said is let's let's be honest. When Stafford's got time to throw.

Okay, So you did. How lucky are we? So we talked about this yesterday. I mean the Niners hammering Pittsburgh's one thing the Rams dominating the Seahawks. To me, I sat there and I thought, how is this defense doing it? Seattle couldn't get first down? So you did the game. The one thing we came back and said is let's let's be honest. When Stafford's got time to throw.

Coach, it is beauty and many people better. I know, people give them a hard time. They gave him a hard time for giving the ball away the Super Bowl year. All that, my man is just so you met with McVay before the game.

Coach, it is beauty and many people better. I know, people give them a hard time. They gave him a hard time for giving the ball away the Super Bowl year. All that, my man is just so you met with McVay before the game.

Oh, many people thought, well, they're gonna be in the They're gonna be in a quarterback sweepstakes. What was mcveighcas mcbeh I thought they change their run game.

Oh, many people thought, well, they're gonna be in the They're gonna be in a quarterback sweepstakes. What was mcveighcas mcbeh I thought they change their run game.

They were pulling guards. It was different.

They were pulling guards. It was different.

It's so funny.

It's so funny.

So the traditional McVeigh run game is more spread. You out run zones, these plays that kind of get pushed and flushed towards the sideline, and then the running back like Todd Gurley would stick his foot in the ground and boom and dissect the defense.

So the traditional McVeigh run game is more spread. You out run zones, these plays that kind of get pushed and flushed towards the sideline, and then the running back like Todd Gurley would stick his foot in the ground and boom and dissect the defense.

Right, they get this wave. He rides the wave of.

Right, they get this wave. He rides the wave of.

This zone game and then cuts back. Okay, they went a completely different route and it's gap trap, which is man blocking schemes instead of like kind of zone for zone and spot blocking everything. It is a man identification you and me for these two dudes right now, we're gonna jump on this technique at the line of scrimmage. Bam, hit him in the mouth, get to the second level, give the back a clear defined hole and he has one option off of that hole or we're toast right. And the reason you do that is when you play like an athletic defense or defense like Seattle, or with your own offensive line that's not quite as experienced together, you don't have all the time on task point. You want to just get to the answer quickly and jump them right away, get up in their face right away, and give you back some chance.

This zone game and then cuts back. Okay, they went a completely different route and it's gap trap, which is man blocking schemes instead of like kind of zone for zone and spot blocking everything. It is a man identification you and me for these two dudes right now, we're gonna jump on this technique at the line of scrimmage. Bam, hit him in the mouth, get to the second level, give the back a clear defined hole and he has one option off of that hole or we're toast right. And the reason you do that is when you play like an athletic defense or defense like Seattle, or with your own offensive line that's not quite as experienced together, you don't have all the time on task point. You want to just get to the answer quickly and jump them right away, get up in their face right away, and give you back some chance.

Exactly. And that takes time.

Exactly. And that takes time.

That's like a dance, you know, between five ozero linemen maybe six, with the tight end and the halfback. It all has to fit perfect and it's got to be nice and smooth. It's the old school Mike Shanahan stuff and Kyle Shanahan stuff from before. But now what are they doing San Francisco. It's more of that game plan. Because Lafleura came from Shanahan to McVeigh, Now you know what I mean. So he implemented some of this downhill north and south in your face gap trap schemes, and so they ran that to perfection. I thought Kyen Williams looked awesome. I thought cam Akers looked great. But most importantly from this game, I thought neither team turned the ball over. Matthew Stafford was the difference in that game. Oh yeah, and the same thing we're talking about. Josh Allen. He managed the misses a couple times. He came out on a bootleg and he's it's called a naked for a reason. You got no protection. You're running naked out in the flat. There's a dude in his face and another guy coming to take his head off. He makes one guy miss and chucks this ball into the stands so fast, before the play could even get started, they were done.

That's like a dance, you know, between five ozero linemen maybe six, with the tight end and the halfback. It all has to fit perfect and it's got to be nice and smooth. It's the old school Mike Shanahan stuff and Kyle Shanahan stuff from before. But now what are they doing San Francisco. It's more of that game plan. Because Lafleura came from Shanahan to McVeigh, Now you know what I mean. So he implemented some of this downhill north and south in your face gap trap schemes, and so they ran that to perfection. I thought Kyen Williams looked awesome. I thought cam Akers looked great. But most importantly from this game, I thought neither team turned the ball over. Matthew Stafford was the difference in that game. Oh yeah, and the same thing we're talking about. Josh Allen. He managed the misses a couple times. He came out on a bootleg and he's it's called a naked for a reason. You got no protection. You're running naked out in the flat. There's a dude in his face and another guy coming to take his head off. He makes one guy miss and chucks this ball into the stands so fast, before the play could even get started, they were done.

Dead to rights once again. They got us.

Dead to rights once again. They got us.

And what did Matthew do. He didn't try and force it. He wasn't loose with the ball. Just get rid of it. They try to flee flicker, dead to rights. They got nickel pressure. Kobe Bryant number eight from Seattle's coming off the edge ready to just Stone Matthew Stafford right in the chin.

And what did Matthew do. He didn't try and force it. He wasn't loose with the ball. Just get rid of it. They try to flee flicker, dead to rights. They got nickel pressure. Kobe Bryant number eight from Seattle's coming off the edge ready to just Stone Matthew Stafford right in the chin.

What does he do?

What does he do?

Dirted it they get I made the comment I said, this Rams offense is stuck in the mud. I feel like I'm at burning Man. So they end up like third and thirty. Okay, what do they do? Quick completion? Play the field goal game? The stands are going nuts, right, they're ready for a big play. It's prime for a young quarterback to make a mistake and throw a pick six on your own twenty or something. What does matt dude? Quick completion give me ten yards? Yeah, we didn't get the first down, but we're punting. They ended every drive with a kick, a punt, a field goal, or an extra point, right. And that's it's so easy to say from this chair, But in those moments, so many players make the mistake of what Josh Allen did last night, trying too hard.

Dirted it they get I made the comment I said, this Rams offense is stuck in the mud. I feel like I'm at burning Man. So they end up like third and thirty. Okay, what do they do? Quick completion? Play the field goal game? The stands are going nuts, right, they're ready for a big play. It's prime for a young quarterback to make a mistake and throw a pick six on your own twenty or something. What does matt dude? Quick completion give me ten yards? Yeah, we didn't get the first down, but we're punting. They ended every drive with a kick, a punt, a field goal, or an extra point, right. And that's it's so easy to say from this chair, But in those moments, so many players make the mistake of what Josh Allen did last night, trying too hard.

I'm gonna get hit.

I'm gonna get hit.

I gotta make this throw, take the hit, fall down, live to see another down. And Matthew Stafford did that perfectly. But that's a veteran guy with time and these quarterback coordinator combinations, the coordinator's gonna bail you out a lot. You got a handful of times during the game where you got to help him too, because he just sets you up with all those sequencing of plays, all that time he spending burning the midnight oil, just grinding for you on tape and setting you up for those perfect throws and the touchdowns and the trick plays and all that. You gotta bail them out too. And Matthew Stafford did that for Sean McVay.

I gotta make this throw, take the hit, fall down, live to see another down. And Matthew Stafford did that perfectly. But that's a veteran guy with time and these quarterback coordinator combinations, the coordinator's gonna bail you out a lot. You got a handful of times during the game where you got to help him too, because he just sets you up with all those sequencing of plays, all that time he spending burning the midnight oil, just grinding for you on tape and setting you up for those perfect throws and the touchdowns and the trick plays and all that. You gotta bail them out too. And Matthew Stafford did that for Sean McVay.

They work. They were in lockstep on Sunday. That was impressive.

They work. They were in lockstep on Sunday. That was impressive.

You've been great today, Final final you really have The final question is brought pretty better than I think Bart.

You've been great today, Final final you really have The final question is brought pretty better than I think Bart.

Here's talk about managing your misses and when it's time to cut it loose, cut it loose. Talk about a kid who's grown up. You know what it is too, the reps he's had in college, and I'm oh, see, okay, it's it's time on task and being in those situations over and over and over getting yes and getting stressed in practice in a way. Raheem Morris brought this up about his defense last week. He said, we got to stress these young guys in practice because we got to make it harder in practice than it's going to be in the game, so they make the right decision and watch them right here, just getting down, just getting down. Towards the end, a lot of guys will try a little bit more understanding your personnel.

Here's talk about managing your misses and when it's time to cut it loose, cut it loose. Talk about a kid who's grown up. You know what it is too, the reps he's had in college, and I'm oh, see, okay, it's it's time on task and being in those situations over and over and over getting yes and getting stressed in practice in a way. Raheem Morris brought this up about his defense last week. He said, we got to stress these young guys in practice because we got to make it harder in practice than it's going to be in the game, so they make the right decision and watch them right here, just getting down, just getting down. Towards the end, a lot of guys will try a little bit more understanding your personnel.

Are you matched up one on one? The dv's not looking at me, Give him a shot. That's an athletic receiver. Now.

Are you matched up one on one? The dv's not looking at me, Give him a shot. That's an athletic receiver. Now.

Back end line throws up by the crossbar, not down low, because those things get tipped up by the crossbar and it gets tipped out of bounds. Everything you see is like the perfect quarterback play exactly what throws.

Back end line throws up by the crossbar, not down low, because those things get tipped up by the crossbar and it gets tipped out of bounds. Everything you see is like the perfect quarterback play exactly what throws.

On the front end of the goal line.

On the front end of the goal line.

You want to belt, loop and lower so the guys can get down dirty, catch the ball and fall down because there's gonna be a big time collision. Back End line throws in the back of the end zone. It's got to be helmet or higher, so the guy jumps boom. If he misses, the ball goes out of bounce. If he catches it, he falls down. He's got to get his feet in. You do your part.

You want to belt, loop and lower so the guys can get down dirty, catch the ball and fall down because there's gonna be a big time collision. Back End line throws in the back of the end zone. It's got to be helmet or higher, so the guy jumps boom. If he misses, the ball goes out of bounce. If he catches it, he falls down. He's got to get his feet in. You do your part.

That's it.

That's it.

And he just he has a knack for understanding what wins games, what loses games. And he stays in that mind frame and he's like when he's on the field he'll smile occasionally, but that dude's like stone cold killer man. I like, I really enjoy watching him play, so.

And he just he has a knack for understanding what wins games, what loses games. And he stays in that mind frame and he's like when he's on the field he'll smile occasionally, but that dude's like stone cold killer man. I like, I really enjoy watching him play, so.

I really really do.

I really really do.

But the reps at Iowa State really helped him.

But the reps at Iowa State really helped him.

You know, Bill par Sells used to have a rule three years of college starting. Now these days you can't.

You know, Bill par Sells used to have a rule three years of college starting. Now these days you can't.

Of course it's different now.

Of course it's different now.

There was a reason he had the rule.

There was a reason he had the rule.

One percent been in those situations and you know what to do, similar to like military training, right, Yeah, they're not thinking on the fly.

One percent been in those situations and you know what to do, similar to like military training, right, Yeah, they're not thinking on the fly.

You are, but you're not.

You are, but you're not.

You're so trained in these situations that you have a checklist in your brain of Okay, this this contingency.

You're so trained in these situations that you have a checklist in your brain of Okay, this this contingency.

Plan, boom, get out. That's it.

Plan, boom, get out. That's it.

That's all you have to know. And it's eat once again, easy to say from this chair. When you got three hundred pound guys trying to take your head off right in less than two seconds, it's really hard.

That's all you have to know. And it's eat once again, easy to say from this chair. When you got three hundred pound guys trying to take your head off right in less than two seconds, it's really hard.

All right, rams, Niners, you're on this game. Continued success at a fantastic job. It was wildly entertaining. If you're from Los Angeles, if you're from Seattle, it was it was a regon be fine, they'll be fine.

All right, rams, Niners, you're on this game. Continued success at a fantastic job. It was wildly entertaining. If you're from Los Angeles, if you're from Seattle, it was it was a regon be fine, they'll be fine.

Long season.

Long season.

They got to just tackle issue, but they'll be fine.

They got to just tackle issue, but they'll be fine.

They just brought in a tackle today, Mark Sanchez, thank you so much, fantastic Fox Sports.

They just brought in a tackle today, Mark Sanchez, thank you so much, fantastic Fox Sports.

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Yeah.

Yeah.

So this is Zach Wilson against man and then Zach Wilson against zone. And I want you to take it from here correct.

So this is Zach Wilson against man and then Zach Wilson against zone. And I want you to take it from here correct.

So basically, when you criticize a quarterback and you come in the next day, you want to give him a one up, like, hey, I really like the way you did this, and a one forward. This is what I want you to improve on. This is playing his day for Zach Wilson. If you roll the clip on the Manda Man clip, you see it's man demeanor across the board. You're going to see these four receivers highlighted. Then you're going to see all the defensive backs right in front of him, staring right into their eyes because that's all they're doing in Manda Man, like the airport. Keep your eye on your luggage. That's their luggage. Your receiver is your luggage. See how much space is open underneath. And he is perfectly in rhythm and throws an absolute dart. Joe buck on the on the telecast said, and he throws a strike a fastball for a strike right down the middle, first down jets because he puts some heat on that ball. You could tell he threw it with conviction. He's got an absolute cannon and he knew what to do. He could recognize it. Hey, this is my read boom. It was one to two. He had the little sit route underneath. He got covered up. Here comes Garrett Wilson ripping in on that. Like basically we call it like a wrap four. You're wrapping around the sit route and if four tells you an inside breaking route, here he comes on the in route. Okay, versus zone. You got to use your eyes and almost take a breath. Okay, in zone. These backers underneath, watch them. At the beginning of the snap, they take one step forward. Here goes Zach. He's got seven steps. Where are all the eyes not on the receivers, They're on the quarterback. So the linebackers take a step up. Then they all blow out of there and expand in zone right underneath as Alan Lazard, that's read number one. This is drive to your basic, that inside en route to the back underneath. He can throw it to the drive or the back right there. He locked onto the basic to Randall Cobb. He's got Lazard underneath wide open once again, watch it seven steps, perfect timing, eyes on the quarterback. Now they're gonna run back out of their blow out of there. You gotta find windows. You gotta take a breath, let everything settle, and just dump it down to You know, you have to go through it in the right timing because if you shorten up your drop, you want to hit those underneath zone routes while they're still expanding, while they're still backing up. Because now you get the receiver underneath knows it's zone, he recognizes it, slams on the brakes, finds the open window, reveals himself to the quarterback, catches the ball, and now he can turn a knife up field and steal some extra yards. If you go too quick, they're gonna stop their backpedal boom and go take his head off right. Or if you're too late, they're settled and ready to play downhill. This was perfect timing. He's just going to the wrong guy and locking on to the wrong guy. So this is where moving forward. Okay, where's Hackett gonna make his hay this year with Zach Wilson. Because if that's the future, that's the future. Let's figure it out, right, We got sixteen chances to do this right and try and make it in the postseason tournament. Be ready for some zone coverage. Be ready for zone coverage, and defenses will say, Okay, he's gonna throw us one. He'll throw us a cheap one because we're gonna play zone spread out. Make him throw it underneath. He's gonna force one down the field. And if he does decide to hit these underneath routs and goes thirteen to sixteen play drives, convert a couple third downs along the way, good, then he deserves to win the game. But we don't think he can do that. He's gonna give us a cheap one. So hang back, trust your reads, drop in your your perfect zone positions, be in the right spot, and be ready for a cheap one. So Zach's gonna have to take it to the next level. Trust his eyes and see it. From the snap. You can tell the stark contrast of man. There's a ton of space everywhere and zone. I gotta find the little windows, these tiny little spots to make some throw.

So basically, when you criticize a quarterback and you come in the next day, you want to give him a one up, like, hey, I really like the way you did this, and a one forward. This is what I want you to improve on. This is playing his day for Zach Wilson. If you roll the clip on the Manda Man clip, you see it's man demeanor across the board. You're going to see these four receivers highlighted. Then you're going to see all the defensive backs right in front of him, staring right into their eyes because that's all they're doing in Manda Man, like the airport. Keep your eye on your luggage. That's their luggage. Your receiver is your luggage. See how much space is open underneath. And he is perfectly in rhythm and throws an absolute dart. Joe buck on the on the telecast said, and he throws a strike a fastball for a strike right down the middle, first down jets because he puts some heat on that ball. You could tell he threw it with conviction. He's got an absolute cannon and he knew what to do. He could recognize it. Hey, this is my read boom. It was one to two. He had the little sit route underneath. He got covered up. Here comes Garrett Wilson ripping in on that. Like basically we call it like a wrap four. You're wrapping around the sit route and if four tells you an inside breaking route, here he comes on the in route. Okay, versus zone. You got to use your eyes and almost take a breath. Okay, in zone. These backers underneath, watch them. At the beginning of the snap, they take one step forward. Here goes Zach. He's got seven steps. Where are all the eyes not on the receivers, They're on the quarterback. So the linebackers take a step up. Then they all blow out of there and expand in zone right underneath as Alan Lazard, that's read number one. This is drive to your basic, that inside en route to the back underneath. He can throw it to the drive or the back right there. He locked onto the basic to Randall Cobb. He's got Lazard underneath wide open once again, watch it seven steps, perfect timing, eyes on the quarterback. Now they're gonna run back out of their blow out of there. You gotta find windows. You gotta take a breath, let everything settle, and just dump it down to You know, you have to go through it in the right timing because if you shorten up your drop, you want to hit those underneath zone routes while they're still expanding, while they're still backing up. Because now you get the receiver underneath knows it's zone, he recognizes it, slams on the brakes, finds the open window, reveals himself to the quarterback, catches the ball, and now he can turn a knife up field and steal some extra yards. If you go too quick, they're gonna stop their backpedal boom and go take his head off right. Or if you're too late, they're settled and ready to play downhill. This was perfect timing. He's just going to the wrong guy and locking on to the wrong guy. So this is where moving forward. Okay, where's Hackett gonna make his hay this year with Zach Wilson. Because if that's the future, that's the future. Let's figure it out, right, We got sixteen chances to do this right and try and make it in the postseason tournament. Be ready for some zone coverage. Be ready for zone coverage, and defenses will say, Okay, he's gonna throw us one. He'll throw us a cheap one because we're gonna play zone spread out. Make him throw it underneath. He's gonna force one down the field. And if he does decide to hit these underneath routs and goes thirteen to sixteen play drives, convert a couple third downs along the way, good, then he deserves to win the game. But we don't think he can do that. He's gonna give us a cheap one. So hang back, trust your reads, drop in your your perfect zone positions, be in the right spot, and be ready for a cheap one. So Zach's gonna have to take it to the next level. Trust his eyes and see it. From the snap. You can tell the stark contrast of man. There's a ton of space everywhere and zone. I gotta find the little windows, these tiny little spots to make some throw.

You made an interesting comment about patience. I watched can he pick it justin field? Zach Wilson young quarterbacks all this weekend and my interpretation is just a sportscaster was.

You made an interesting comment about patience. I watched can he pick it justin field? Zach Wilson young quarterbacks all this weekend and my interpretation is just a sportscaster was.

They're panicking.

They're panicking.

It's you want it to happen, and you said and you said something, take a breath.

It's you want it to happen, and you said and you said something, take a breath.

Oh yeah, in zone, take a breath and man, okay, here it comes.

Oh yeah, in zone, take a breath and man, okay, here it comes.

That's hard be ready for him, you know what I mean?

That's hard be ready for him, you know what I mean?

Yeah, you just it's really easy for me here to say that, take a breath.

Yeah, you just it's really easy for me here to say that, take a breath.

The same and you know it's you know, it's coach speak in some ways. But just identifying that for him right away is going to just set him free with his play. And can he do it? Absolutely, He's done it at BYU. He's done it in spurts. You see the way he can throw it. It's not like he just drops back and can't deliver the ball. You saw that ball before. Are you kidding me? That's a ball thrown? Well, that was right after halftime. I think it was the first third down of the second half, a third and ten of the second half. In a tight ballgame like that on Monday night, when your star quarterback just gets hurt, I mean, that's something. Okay, So don't tell me this kid can't do it.

The same and you know it's you know, it's coach speak in some ways. But just identifying that for him right away is going to just set him free with his play. And can he do it? Absolutely, He's done it at BYU. He's done it in spurts. You see the way he can throw it. It's not like he just drops back and can't deliver the ball. You saw that ball before. Are you kidding me? That's a ball thrown? Well, that was right after halftime. I think it was the first third down of the second half, a third and ten of the second half. In a tight ballgame like that on Monday night, when your star quarterback just gets hurt, I mean, that's something. Okay, So don't tell me this kid can't do it.

I know he can.

I know he can.

It's just the bonehead one versus own when you lock in on a guy, those have to be eliminated if this team wants to, you know, be a contender down the stretch.

It's just the bonehead one versus own when you lock in on a guy, those have to be eliminated if this team wants to, you know, be a contender down the stretch.

Okay, Bill's face the Raiders, the Jets face the Cowboys, and Mark Sanchez will be doing the Niners and the Rams, which has been very lobsided. Sean's got the ring, Kyle owns the regular season. And so my guess is a boy San Francisco. You were doing a game whoe They're good?

Okay, Bill's face the Raiders, the Jets face the Cowboys, and Mark Sanchez will be doing the Niners and the Rams, which has been very lobsided. Sean's got the ring, Kyle owns the regular season. And so my guess is a boy San Francisco. You were doing a game whoe They're good?

Mark?

Mark?

So were you today? Great stuff. Always appreciate you having and taking the time. By the way, when our guests come on and bring tape you kidding me?

So were you today? Great stuff. Always appreciate you having and taking the time. By the way, when our guests come on and bring tape you kidding me?

Feel bad? Mike cutsorry jamn.

Feel bad? Mike cutsorry jamn.

Just like barely put any time for me today. What an easy day.

Just like barely put any time for me today. What an easy day.

Well that's the news.

Well that's the news.