The Herd with Colin CowherdThe Herd - Hour 2 - Where Colin was right & wrong
Where Colin was right and wrong
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Great to be back.
I was sitting there yesterday at home watching the NBA Finals, writing down some football notes. We're getting very very close camps about three weeks away, very very close.
Jmac woming up to the New Orleans Saints.
Perhaps it's interesting interesting you bring that up, that the two teams in the NFL.
I can't get my arms around one, the Saints.
I just don't know if this coach as a head coach, and the other one is Miami. You like the Saints. I am a little bit of a cynic. I like Miami. You're a cynic. Well, but there's a story today they'll go after Dalvin Cook I mean, at some point they just got more good players in the Jets.
Quarterback spend spend spend. No, they're not better than the Jets.
They're not.
By the way, DeAndre Hopkins, I can't wait to talk about him. You haven't delved into that yet.
I haven't.
He could be a Jet by weeks in.
Go get everyone all right, Here we go, Colin right, Colin wrong, plenty of both.
Here we go Where Colin was right?
Well, I've said for years I think pat Riley and Eric Spolstra are arguably the two smartest guys in the NBA. I think Miami is Golden State East, Proactive, flexible, smart, amenable to change. I felt spo I predicted he'd win two games in the Boston Series himself and maybe one here in the finals. But I think when you talk about the heat culture, I've said before, it's very hard in Miami. It's a port city, it's fun, it's beautiful people. It is totally understandable of young athletes get distracted.
Tyler Hero did about a year ago. But they have.
Built an incredibly formidable culture that is the NB. I think of everybody not named Golden State in the.
NBA, where Colin was right.
Jason Tatum once again didn't deliver in a crucial spot. All the fanboys went crazy when he was good against you know, drowning Philadelphia in Game seven. But I said, that's not who he is. It's who he is sometimes, but he's not in Alpha. He's more Andrew Wiggins, although better. He's a tremendous talent, but still has self doubt. You've seen him at the podium multiple times. I still can't figure Layton games. Who I want with a ball, Jalen Brown or Jason Tatum.
So we were right where Colin was raw.
But I had Boston beating Miami and they lost in seven. I thought there was a huge talent gap. I overstated that, and I thought home court advance would matter.
But they wilted in Game seven.
They shot thirty nine percent and twenty one percent on threes, and you watched a really good core of players get out coached and out fought in a Game seven in.
Boston where Colin was right.
Romeo Dobbs comes out, a rookie receiver for the Packers last year and says, I don't want to see what the big difference is. Jordan loved to Aaron Rodgers, once again illustrating Aaron's inability to develop trust and relationships with young players. DeVante Adams wasn't young, but would Brady have lost somebody in their prime like Davonte Adams. I've always felt Brady Peyton Manning had this ability to connect with a locker room.
Aaron's just super talented.
Has his favorite to David boctiari a Randall Cobb, but by and large is considered aloof.
How do I know that?
I've been told by two offensive players in that locker room since the Super.
Bowl where Colin was wrong.
I thought the Lakers would be a really stiff test for Denver.
They got swept.
Now, three of the games were close, but after Los Angeles outplayed him for most of Game two in Denver and lost, it didn't feel like a series.
What happened to the Lakers defense.
They gave up one hundred and thirty two points in Game one and on average gave up one hundred and eighteen points and eighty was completely outplayed. I thought it would be close. I picked the Lakers to win. Their role players, especially d Lo Dilo was awful.
He was awful where Colin was right.
Speaking of Anthony Davis, who I've said before is great about every other game. Once again, when you put him up against the big man of note in the West, he gets outplayed. I think Anthony Davis is really good, but because of the early injuries, I think he peaked about two years ago. There's an argument he peaked in the bubble when he had that sabbatical for four months ring a season. I don't think you can depend on him going forward to play more than about sixty games.
Where Colin was right.
Patrick Holmes once again proving he gets it. A comment this past week about salary and what it means to him.
It's not about being the highest paid guy. It's not about making a ton of money. I've made enough money where I'll be set for the rest of my life. But at the same time, you got to find that line where you're making a good amount of money, but you're still keeping a lot of great players around you so you can win these Super Bowls and you're able to compete in these games.
Very much a Tom Brady quality. He's about winning first.
And finally, where Colin was right, I've said this before. Nick Saban walks to the podium he's got something to talk about. He may not be totally upfront about it, but he recently lost a battle for a recruit kJ Lacy and to Texas, and Texas has beaten Alabama now own a couple of recruits, and suddenly Nick Saban is all about fairness in college football.
If it's going to be the same for everyone, I think that's better than what we have now. Because what we have now is we have some states and some schools in some states that are investing a lot more money in terms of managing their roster than other others. And I think that, Yeah, I have no problem with that. I mean, unionize it, make it like the.
NFL once again.
This is about Texas oil money and Texas booster money being much greater than Alabama can compete with, and they lost a recent recruit. Nick doesn't really care about fairness. He's had more passion geographical advantages. I'm a huge fan of Nick Saban, but I've been on this now for six months to a year. Anytime Nick comes to the podium to complain about nil, he just lost a player to tech excess money. Colin right, Colin wrong. On a Monday, Rick Buker now joining us. He'll be on speak for thirty Eastern one thirty Pacific today on FS one Bukes how but now I don't know what what was your I was abroad?
Yes, you were very sophisticated traveler.
Okay, so I didn't know who you picked. In this series almost everybody has Denver. Are you surprised? First of all, in Game one, Miami got great looks. They just couldn't hit them. Yeah, didn't have their sea legs, right, they didn't have the they didn't have the mountain Yeah, decksterity. They weren't ready quite for it. But my takeaway in the first two games is Miami's getting a ton of open looks.
Yeah, yeah, my take certain certainly there's that. It's it's they are buying large three point looks, right, so if they shoot at the high percentage, then they've got an advantage there.
I do believe that they can't.
Live off of that exclusively, so it's a matter of getting It's really important that they get a lead early because then they can go to their mid range a little bit more, which they need to mix in in order to be effective. But honestly, the way I look at it is Denver has played two terrible games to this point, or a mediocre game the first game and a terrible game Game two.
Fourth yesterday, they're bad.
They were bad.
From the start in terms of their effort and the first five minutes. I mean, I just I went back and watched the first half again this morning, and they didn't take any shots within the rhythm of their offense. They were just coming down and jacking it, and there was no attention to detail defensively, and Miami was getting wide open looks. And I love what Eric Spolster did, which was Max Strus didn't hit a shot in game one, and he was like, you know what, We're running plays for you right out of that of the gate in game two because you're gonna get the same looks and you're gonna hit them.
And it's exactly what he did.
He had four threes in the first quarter, so that along with attacking Nikola Jokic, we were ready to anoint him as the greatest player on the planet. I brought up the fact that you have to be able to play some defense in order to be the greatest player on the planet. He wasn't great last night, and he was I mean, the Cody Zeller. They used everybody to attack him, and everybody was effective.
You know, it's interesting. I don't think there's Denver's very good, but there is. It's interesting when you have a point center and Jamal Murray's more of a two, they don't have a classic point guard. And at the end of regulation, what I find with Denver is it's a very good team with few flaws, but sometimes getting into their offense can be clunky.
I've said this about the Clippers.
When Paul George and Choir run of the offense, it's like, could somebody get me a point guard here? And at the end of the game, they did not take a time out, and my takeaway was they're not good at that or to just freewheel and let it go. They didn't want to take a time out and set up because Miami. I don't think Denver trusts itself to get a quick.
Shot correct well.
And they had eleven seconds right when they got the ball, and I would say at least two out of five times, if not three out of five times, if Denver needs a three point shot, they're going to get it and make it.
In those circumstances.
The only reason you would call time out is if you wanted to get Michael Porter Junior on the floor, But he was so horrendous, particularly hitting shots, there was no reason to get him on the floor to give yourself a little more space and to give Miami an opportunity to set their defense. But you make a great, great point about it's one of the detractions when it comes to playing through Jokic or any big man is that by and large, they need to get to their spot. You need to get them the ball, which takes a little bit of time, and then you need to get them to their spot. And I thought you saw Jokic recognizing that, which is why he was attacking off the dribble right from the first play of the game. It was like, Oh, they're gonna they're gonna single cover me, They're gonna make me a score. I can't mess around and think I'm going to I'm not gonna draw a double team, So let me go attack right away and show them that me scoring is not going to be an effective way to win the game.
Lo and behold it was.
The I thought Mike Malone after the game, ripping his team for effort was a great chess match. So that flight to Miami. The minute the game, it's very Phil Jackson. A minute the game is over, I'm going to deliver my message either to the officials or my locker room. Yep, And I thought I thought Mike did a good job of that. Did you think effort was a problem.
Uh?
Yeah, I mean.
Across the board and Jokic wasn't an exception, Jamal Murray wasn't an exception. Contavious Caldwell, Pope and Michael Porter Junior were at the head of the line. Christian Brown was really the only guy at Bruce Brown were the only two guys who played with the kind of energy that you would expect from a team in the finals. So yeah, and look across the board. This is my one concern, and I'm not really concerned. I picked Denver in five. I still expect that to happen. I think they're going to be much more focused and dialed in on the road. But they've now this is the first time they're on the finals platform, on the final stage, and they've played two games as if. I don't want to say that the stage is too big for them, but they don't realize the importance of you have to execute, and you have to play hard every single second. They've had plenty of games this year where they coasted for three quarters and they closed out in the fourth, and they nearly did it in Game two with what like four minutes of quality play at the end of the game. But to think that you're gonna beat a Miami Heat team not playing hard throughout the game is a mistake, all.
Right, J Mack. What was that story earlier?
Jmack that two reporters simultaneously came out with a story, meaning somebody called them simultaneously on the speaker phone and said, right, guys, you can break the story.
I'm gonna give it to two of you.
Yeah.
So these are people who are the two people.
Show Toms and Chris Haynes.
Okay? Are they considered Lebron allies?
Uh?
No, Toms is in the Kyrie irving camp.
Okay.
Do you think the news came from Kyrie or Kyrie? Okay?
So Kyrie sent the message out, the message being he wants Lebron in Dallas.
Yes, And what do you make of the story.
I'm fascinated by it.
I'm fascinated by the idea that you would have Lebron Luca and Kyrie playing together. You love it offensively, you don't love it defensively. Oh oh my goodness, Like the other two guys are gonna go come on, we can't do this. Like literally, the other two guys on the floor would be come on, you guys are having all the fun offensively. We got to carry the low defensive. We can't possibly make this work. What I find interesting about it because and I think last week when you were off doing living in ice hotels or whatever the hell you were doing whatever, that we talked about the Kyrie for DeAndre Ayton deal to Phoenix. And I talked to somebody yesterday who is in that circle, and said, I don't know if k D is ready to hook up with Kyrie again. And I had heard since Brooklyn he blamed it on Sean Marx and Joe Ci and Steve Nash and they weren't going to give Kyrie an extension. But if Phoenix is not interested in and KD is not interested in Kyrie, he has no market And like, who am I going to? Who can I who can I team up with? And who can I use his leverage?
And is Kyrie calling to reporters? Put it out there stir the pot.
Yeah, I mean it is such a ridiculous notion that Lebron would.
Go to Dallas.
Why would he go to Dallas?
Why would Okay, I'll tell me, let me fill it out. Lebron's smart, knows the game. His exit strategies have been brilliant. Men are good at starting things, relationships, wars, we never end them.
Well, we're bad at that. Not Lebron. He's great at exit strategy. Yeah, he knows.
He's a fifty five game player. Now he could be great in moments, not even entire games.
That's very rare.
He has to now join somebody that plays Tatum Luca seventy games. Sure, and he's the one A. I think Lebron's very comfortable. I think he's wanted ad to be this for three years and he wouldn't take the baton. And so Lebron looks at Luke and go, Okay, I got my young star. I can now be great in moments. I can be a mentor. By the way, if I'm Dallas. Dallas is getting to a point now. The Kyrie thing didn't work, the Jalen thing's not perfect. Kororzingis we can mess around. Lebron works with everybody. Mark Cuban's an entrepreneur. Lebron in town. He's not going to listen to.
That, okay.
But the reality is, if he was a free agent, I would consider that, Okay, remote possibility, but at least a possibility. But he's still getting paid like forty some million dollars next season. I just I don't know how you possibly make that work.
Your bench wouldn't be great, your.
Bench would you wouldn't You and me would be sitting on the bench.
They'd have guys there just wearing uniforms, just so it looked like they had a full team.
Okay, let's go to this. So Bob Meyer out just says I'm done with it. Yeah, when he left the Warriors, is it a contract thing? There's always a price for everybody. I could argue, Kerr got paid, Draymond, Steph Clay, Bob didn't.
Was it a money sit?
You went? No?
No, not at all. He was worn out, not at all.
He's got three young daughters. He's completely worn out. The Warriors are at a nexus right now that is incredibly challenging. I mean, and so whatever time and energy that he invested in getting the Warriors to those four championships, and over eight years he would have to double that effort and it still might not work. And I can't help but feel that one of the most difficult challenges that he has or would have had and the Warriors have, is you need to break up the Big Three. You need to move on down the three. The one of the secret sauces or one of the seat good ingredients to the Bob Meyer sauce is that unlike a lot of gms who always keep themselves separate from the players and do not develop relationships.
With the players, he was.
He would play pick up, you know, after their practices, he was in the gym.
He he cultivated.
Relationships, which is why what allowed him to get through the minefields with Draymond and Steve and Jordan and all those things, right, he was able to sit down and those relationships existed, so they could they could have talks. But the idea now of having those relationships and moving either Draymond or Clay and then having to look at Steph walk into the building every day and look at Steph, or just sit down with Steph and tell him this is what I'm doing. I think that that was so rather unappetizing for him.
Does the owner Joe Lacup want moves Bob wasn't willing to make them and his three daughters.
Is the new GM gonna come in? Yeah and break it up?
Well, I'll be interested to see if they bring in a new GM. I would be surprised if it's not Joe's son Kirk or Mike Dunleavy Junior, because because those guys have at least been around.
For a little while.
The idea that you would bring somebody in from the outside who doesn't have any connection with the existing group, there's a culture there. I just I don't and it's going to say this is what we're gonna do. I don't know how you get that authority. So I think it's going to have to be from within. And I think the difference, and again, one of the strengths Bob had is he could tell Joe no, right like Joe, Joe, hey, let's trade Clay for Kevin Love. No, let's go get Dwight Howard. Actually they probably would have done that. Dwight was the one who said no on that. But he had the ability to convince Joe not to indulge his worst impulses. Does Mike Junior or Kirk his son? Did they have the wherewithal to do that that?
I don't know?
Okay, So when I had my brilliant trade suggestion Jalen which round for Wiggans and Jordan Poole got everybody in the internet loved it.
There was no dissent.
It was seen as you went on vacation immediately afterward too, and to Iceland to get away from the heat, like I gotta go someplace cool exactly.
My guess is they won't overreact, They'll let it cool simmer.
Yeah, but would they take a call? You know?
I like Jalen Brown, but there are a lot of analytics, but you get about as many turnovers as you do assists. He's not the defensive player, I think. I think there's sometimes they feel that defensively he lapses.
It's true.
And by the way he and Tatum, he's more aggressive, Tatum's more talented.
They would take a call on Jalen Brown, right.
I certainly they would take a call.
I think it would have to be a no brainer for Brad Stevens to pull the trigger. And I don't have one for you because I haven't. I haven't really thought about just because it's not in the realm.
You know.
The first question was Joe Mazzula. And by the way, that's the indicator that they're going to stand firm in terms of where they are, like, yeah, we're we're We're not going to make any major changes. We went seven games in the Western Conference finals.
Do we really need to.
Reinvent this or is it just a matter of a tweak and allowing our young players to grow and our young coach to grow. That that is long, that's just been kind of Brad Stevens's general approach.
Well, it's generally a smart approach.
It is.
It is.
It's not exciting for for talk radio, for talk radio and and and social media and and all that. But yeah, it's it's it's and especially in today's game, and you see it with the Miami Heat and to a certain extent that Denver Nuggets like continuity is a huge advantage in today's game because everybody is so impatient about, oh, it didn't work, let's change it, let's fix it. And if you have an ownership in management that says, let's slow down, let's let our let's cultivate what we have, you can gain an advantage.
So I did this earlier. Do you guys have it?
Alex?
Do we have it?
Back there where I said, of the ten best players in the year in the NBA, and I judge a lot of this on postseason. In the NFL, UFC college football hockey, you got to play hard every time you're on the floor or you get hurt.
Basketball is different.
There's load management, the referees officiated differently in the postseason. It's two seasons. So to me, these are the ten best players in the league currently. The front four are not perfect players, but they're really one of one international talents. There's nothing like Dantch Curry, honest and the joker the second tier. I have a question about all of them, Lebron's age, Durrant's health, Davis's consistency, Tatum shrinking late, and Beads health. And then I get the Jimmy Butler and I'm like, I don't know if I really have concerned about anything, but I don't think he is a unique global talent anything in that list. Now, again, you can argue Jamal Murray Boozer, but of the ten people I have, do I have it?
Right in your opinion.
Well, I guess this is my question with having Lebron there after what you just said earlier about that he needs help, Like I would hope that my top ten guys and certainly your top four, like, do they really need help? Well, yes, dantage's help in terms of playing for a championship.
So none of these players are perfect. The first four aren't perfect. I mean, Giannis can't hit a free throw late. Yeah, but they're such unique players.
Yeah, they are.
See what's difficult is and this list kind of reflection of it is that I think we look so hard at offensive numbers and what guys do offensively, and Jimmy would be there because largely because he's a two way player.
He's Hey, I will say this.
He's probably the most unique there and pure talent. I'm not sure that he's top he's probably, I'm not sure if he's top twenty five.
No, I agree, he's a B plus player in the regular season. But my takeaway is the basketball is different, Yeah, the postseason or where legacies are built.
Yep.
And Jimmy is in the Game seven, one of the five best players in the world. He has to be in my top ten I don't care about the regular season. I don't care about Tuesday night in Orlando, Game seven tomorrow. Give me three guys in the world you want over Butler, Stephie.
Take well that I mean, you know and when in that definition, then I'm definitely putting Lebron in that group. The struggle that I have with Jimmy is that I think he's a top five leader in the game, but much like we've seen and we saw in Game two, is that he needs certain matchups to really influence the game. Otherwise Miami has to go in other directions.
I know.
But but they can, like if it's it's KD or it's mb like, they can dominate almost whatever matchup you give them in a certain way.
Jimmy can't.
Like Jimmy has to get Aaron Gordon off of him in order to be able to function and so, but as a leader and his willingness to do that, like I'm here when you need me, I'm still going to play hard defensively, I'm still going to take the big shots in the fourth quarter.
When you need me.
I'm i'm I'm I'm available to do whatever you need.
He's the anti Harden.
Yes, yes, yeah, when it matters, Yes, exactly, and I will get and and and recognizes when he has a matchup and when he doesn't, he doesn't try to do more than he's capable of. Sometimes it's kind of the other way. But like, is that a true superstar? I don't know that I can put him in that category. And I and trust me, I love his game. He's my daughter's favorite player, was long before this run. So I've got things to deal with at home anytime I have any Jimmy Butler slander.
By the way, you in town all week?
I am?
Are you are? The bigger question is are you in town a week?
I'm buying dinner tonight. If you're available, come.
On, you might be able to make that work.
Let's do it. J Max over their eyes of envy took him there.
Yeah, missing out on a big boozy night with these two guys.
Boozy boozy or bougie.
Oh probably both?
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Colin all energizes on vacation.
It is weird what vacation does to you, right, because you're not on social media a ton, not much at all.
No, maybe just sleeping in, having fun, enjoying life.
Yeah, Iceland just one big adventure. It's it's nature on hgh. There's five of everything, five volcanoes, five waterfalls, five glaciers. It's just a beautiful, beautiful country, wonderful people.
I've heard the women in Iceland are very attractive.
I wouldn't know. I was with my son, so I wasn't. Everybody was kind. That dies. Only three hundred and seventy thousand people in the whole country.
That's it.
That's it. Half the size of Wyoming.
What's La County thirty million or something like that.
Ten million. California's got thirty eight million.
Of California is thirty eight Yes, yeah, we're a.
Little bigger than Ice one, Yes we are.
All right.
Let's start with Bryce Young his first OTAs since he was drafted first overall, a lot of praise on the coaches, even though he's got that big.
Helmet on ye one.
Anonymous NFL executive is concerned about Young's ability to stay on the field, saying, I worry Bryce is gonna.
Get killed like smashed.
Oh boy, Colin, I know you're concerned, obviously, I mean, anonymous g I must be watching our show Reggular.
Well, I think I do think.
I remember the first time I saw Kyler Murray at an NFL practice, and my takeaway was, Wow, he's small, and Kyler Murray got hit a few times, and it's been a poorly kept secret. He doesn't like getting hit. Playoff game, he wouldn't run. So yeah, bry, I mean, look at it. Here's a college game. Bryce looks small in college, so yes, he is undersized, and it is. My takeaway is he will create stability in that offense for about four years.
I do not think he's a ten year NFL player. I just don't think he's built for it. And that's okay.
Not everybody's built, not everybody's got Justin Herbert's built. It's just it's okay. Some guys are not built. I mean, look at these college films. He looks very small as a college player, So what's it gonna look like in the NFL.
So the good news is they don't face any like deathly pass rushes early.
They open against Atlanta. Atlanta is toothless at the pass rush. New Orleans can be good.
We'll see Seattle like like I think Brycedale could have some success early. And then Minnesota and week four. By the way, Minnesota's defense is a joke. Like we saw Daniel Jones kill him last year.
It won't be that bad next year.
Are you sure about that?
Yep?
Minnesota vikings.
This weekend.
By the way, I came to terms with they're gonna make the playoffs. Oh no, I so I went when I was flying back, I put down because you have to have six to seven new playoff teams.
That's the way that That's the way got in the league. Okay, so when you do.
It, it's very hard in the af C to find new playoff teams because you gotta kick my home out of the playoffs or bro you start looking around all.
No.
Trevor Lawrence, by the way, Buffalo addressed our biggest concern outside of Stefan Diggs playmakers. Well, they went and got a back. They went and got Dalton Kincaid.
So you start.
Looking around the NFC. It's that's where the new teams in the playoffs.
Seattle emerged. Nobody had Seattle in the playoffs. Vikings, by the way.
Before Halloween, they got a face Philadelphia, Kansas City, and San Francisco.
Good luck.
They're not gonna be good Colin. Anyways, let's move on. Speaking of top picks. Let's go to Houston, where we keep talking about the second overall pick, c J.
Stroud.
He's excelled at camp. I know you love the Texans this year. I do are so bullish huge praise for Jamiico Ryans. Texas brought in case Keenum this offseason, someone who could be a good influence on the rookie.
Here's what he had to say about c J.
Stroud, CJ coming in here being I guess he's been here what three weeks?
Maybe?
I mean I would never know that. I mean, I would have thought he'd been here a year, been in the league, been a four or five year vet. Like being able to call plays and to go and operate, and to be extremely accurate, and a lot of zip on the ball. He's not afraid to try new things. And and uh has jumped right in and and not missed a beat.
How about that?
Wow?
So that there Every year I pick a team to double their win total Houston, watch out there?
Should you get on the phone and get them to carve a bust in Canton for CJ stroud the way case Keenum is hyping this guy up?
Are we serious?
I think he said very accurate, not accurate.
You know that Houston defense, Jesus very very.
I think I went to PFF over the weekend. She was Houston's got more good players than you give them credit for.
I just know a producer on this staff is a Houston guy, and we keep talking about CJS Trouden in Texas. Maybe it's because we're not gonna talk about him during the season because they're gonna stink and win four or five games. So let's just talk about Houston to give them their shine. Now, is that the game win? Well?
I think they have more good players than you realize.
So were they finishing third or fourth in the division?
Uh?
Tying for second with who Tennessee?
Yep? Both canna win eight games?
Goodness, cracis all right, Let's go to the third story of Minnesota Vikings. Dalvin Cook, you mentioned that earlier caught me off guard. So he makes ten point four million dollars. They don't have a trade partner. It is after June one jet that's a big day where some of the contracts guaranteed and so forth. The latest is Minnesota could release him post June one cut and the Dolphins are a real possibility to sign him. I guess the Miami Dolphins just have unlimited funds. Tyreek Hill, Jalen Ramsey, and now maybe Dalvin Cook.
Not pa to yet. I don't know. To me, Kirk Cousins is better served with a great running back.
Well, what's his Madison's not bad. I mean, I play a lot of fans football. He's like, you got to pick him up and at the end of the draft because he's gonna get playing times always hurt.
You liked Alvin Cook that well?
I like him.
I mean I again, I see guy, I saw Ed Oliver got a big deal this weekend. I'd take Dalvin Cook in the game to win me a game over a defensive lineman.
I don't know. I like Delvin.
You guys, you know this world we live in now, you guys turn these running backs in the night.
You're right, You're right.
The Chiefs drafted a guy in the seventh round and he was like awesome in the Super Bowl.
Okay, does Christian McCaffrey matter, speels like he does.
I love how you go from Christian McCaffrey.
You are marginalizing running backs. Does sake one Barkley matter to the Giants?
Where's Kareem Hunt? What team is he currently on?
Oh that's right, Oh that's right.
He's not even signed.
Does Nick Chubb matter? Does Christian McCaffrey matter?
Dalvin Cook ain't those guys? So the Kings will keep him?
Right?
They're paying Kirk a lot of money, probably too much, certainly an argument to be made too.
I don't know.
I listen. We know the Jets are set of running back breeze hall. I gotta wedge the Jets talk.
We haven't done Jets talking two hours count. I'm vote me at the mouth. We don't need Dalvin Cook in New York. We're good.
Thank you for your interest, Ouvin. I know you want to play for a winner, but not gonna happen.
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Sham's Shiranya and Chris Haynes reported simultaneously, Kyrie Irving has reached out to Lebron James to gauge his interest in UH playing alongside Kyrie and Luka Doncic in Dallas. It is being a poo pooed by Jason McIntyre and Rick Buker. I think if you've got a third team involved, Lebron has to take the call discuss it with his wife. It's called golf stream. It's no big deal. You can come and see your son's games. You can take nights off with Kyrie and Luca younger players. You're gonna play fifty games. Mark Cubans like, take thirty nights off watch all your son's college games in person.
All right, let's back up a little bit before we get to the Gulf Street. So, as it's reported, Kyrie called Lebron to gauge his interest.
Yeah, how does the media find out that Kyrie.
Called Lebron because Kyrie linked it?
Ah?
Okay, Kyrie Irving, the guy who last week while you were in Iceland said Hey, don't listen to what the media is saying about me. Guys just don't pay any attention to that stuff. Bashing the media and now leaking to the media Lebron. Now this is embarrassing, more embarrassing stuff for Kyrieeri, who at this point is Iraq.
Do you want anything to do with him?
I thought the Dallas swing for him. I got it.
I did too, take some swings. I would not sign him to a four year deal. I think that's lunacy. I would consider like, if you could do a one and one, give me one more year and then a team option. He doesn't want that, well, there's no market. Well that's that's the market.
Does Phoenix want him. Does Kevin Durant want to get back in bed?
No, they don't need him.
Does Lebron want him?
Or is he?
But like way, for.
Years I heard that Lebron wanted to play with Carmelo.
Never happened. That's a great point.
Yeah, Lebron always the peacemaker. I love my guys. Never played with me alone, had multiple opportunities to. He played with Bosh and d Wade team players, guys that will play defense. Never played with Mellow in his prime.
This is gonna sound crazy, but you know who had a great game last night for the Nuggets?
His kid for the Heat, Gabe Vincent.
Yeah, he's been really damn good in these playoffs. Yeah, no, very free agent. You want Gabe Vincent or Kyrie Irving? Think it over, don't just answer the question. Gabe Vincent? Who you know what you're getting? Hard worker, switches on defense, shows.
Up in the locker room.
Every Santa Barbara kid played at Santa Barbara. Then he went to some IVY League or something.
But or do you want Kyrie Irving Martin? I forget it always just he's a drama king.
That's what Kyrie Irving is at this point in his career, I want nothing to do with the guy. If the Genie Buss has to like intercede here and be like, all right, f I we'll bring on Kyrie.
No, it's going downhill fast.
No.
I think Kyrie has no market, lacks self awareness and is trying to drum something up. But if I'm Phoenix, if Frank Vogel gets DeAndre Ayton, right, yeah, Kevin Durant Booker, I got nothing but score. I got scorings. Fine, I need a bench. I got an old guard, any young one, I'm fine there for a year.
Speaking of the.
Old guys, they need a bench.
Can you tell Chris Paul, hey, we love you, we don't want to trade you. We will not trade you.
Take a major pay cut because we know you're gonna be hurt and have to miss a lot of games. Yeah, and Chris pauls is fine. I want to play on a winner. I don't take a pay cut.
Oh, I get it.
And now you can afford a bit of a bench because he's not thirty five million dollar guy.
Yeah.
No, I think you have to go to him and just say we got to get two guys. Their bench needs two players, like an I said before, like a Norman Pale for the Clippers. We need a guy that can give a sixteen on any given night.
He's good.
You have good player, he's a great bench player. So I mean, when you're watching, you know there are no perfect teams right now. I mean Miami could use more size. I think Denver sometimes struggles to initiate get into their offense because their centers sort of their point. So I mean there are no perfect teams. I've been talking about this with with with a friend of mine who's a Celtic fan. I go back and forth on this.
Who's that Bill Simmons.
No, No, but.
I mean at some point they struggle to initiate that, they struggle to get into their offense.
Sometimes.
I think Marcus Smart has peaked. I would move him. I keep saying. The guy that I would love to see with both Boston and Miami is Andrew Wiggins. What doesn't have to be the guy A twitchy wing defender can drop twenty at any time, but he won't get in the way of your star Jimmy Butler. Ban If you put Andrew Wiggins with Bam and Jimmy Butler, he's perfect.
No ego plays defense.
He'd fit their culture, smart plays. I'm saying, get on the phone with Golden Golden State's looking to make a deal somewhere.
Would are they looking to move Draymond? I mean you wouldn't know. You don't talk to him every day or anything.
Don't I don't know Bucky stuff.
Oh man.
I'm just saying they're going to move Jordan Poole. I think that's I.
I think they I'm a believer in do you take calls the idea that Boston is not gonna make any move and run it back?
I think you have to take some I'm.
Not taking calls right now. I'm not personally like me and it's like Jason, we're interested. I'm not taking calls right now. I'm having fun.
This is great.
I'm I'm Jordan Poole. I'm looking to get out of there. Pore Draymond punches you again.
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