Where Colin was right and wrong over the weekend
How healthy will Patrick Mahomes be going forward?
Joe Burrow was amazing against the Bills
Guest: Mark Sanchez
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You can totally conte by ourselves, loving my Sunday evening a little better. We won our basketball game. Dad, life's talking draft. By the way, the referee comes up to me before the game. Yeah, j Mac, I love you, and Calvery, the referee of a basketball said well, and then he didn't give me a call later in the game. But we want we're a dominant baby. Um. But Colin, I'm happy for you and the wife. That's good, um. And then I'm you know, you don't have two kids to slept around. You know, it's tougher, So you know, it's interesting. I think you and I talked about this. This is something to put into the corner of your head the last two times the Miami Dolphins went to Buffalo, and I said it on the show, and I think you echoed it. Mike McDaniel absolutely outcoached Sean McDermott like badly. Skyler Thompson gave them everything because Miami went in even with a third string quarterback and had an identity. Buffalo has no offensive identity. Six years in defensive they're just call plays. It's it's my knock on Brandon Stalia, the Chargers defensive coach. There's no identity. The identity is Yeah, Josh Allen, Justin Herbert are just awesome. That's not a plan, that's a life preserver. That's not a plan and anyway, let's go Colin right, Colin wrong in them on they Where Colin was right well, I said multiple times in the last couple of months, I think Joe Burrow has eclipsed Josh Allen is the second best quarterback in the league. I just think he's so much better. Situationally, you get the wild talent without the wild swings. And I think Burrow's gonna age better because I think accuracy and pre snap excellence beats hyper athleticism over a long haul. But with Burrow regular season, postseason, you get the same Joe cool, calm, collected, precise, efficient, and accurate. Burrow now is the second best quarterback in the league, and we'll see when he faces Mahomes what the gap is. Where Colin was wrong one and three on my playoff picks, I told you I hated my pick, so I was right on how wrong my picks would be. We got the Jags right in a late cover and the San Francisco Dallas game did look like we thought it would look. But Jamac had the right picks he crushed. I didn't I deserve all of my wrongness for my picks. Where Colin was right, I didn't want to be a wet blanket with Daniel Jones, but I kept saying, listen, take the Vikings games out. That's an atrocious defense and you're looking at a C minus quarterback. Now, could he use another receiver? Could they improve the old line? Nobody's denying that. But folks, he had a fifty three passer rating. Take out the worst defensive face twice. If Daniel Jones was on the market, nobody would want him. So congratulations, Giants, you have a quarterback that nobody else in the league wants. Way to go where Colin was wrong. Nick Serriani had that disaster opening as conference. It was the worst thing I've ever seen. But you know what I like about Nick Sirianni. He knows what he doesn't know. He gave up play calling. He hired a great staff people who were good at what he wasn't. He's got a physical presence, He's a very confident guy. He's got veterans to buy in very early in Philadelphia, and I bailed on him. I thought that press conference was I made fun of it. That was the worst thing I've ever seen in my life. But you know what, he knows what he knows, he knows what he doesn't, and that team plays with an edge and a confidence that only the Niners do. And Nick Serrianni deserves a hundred percent of the praise he is getting where Colin was right second year in a row. The last four coaches standing are all offensive coaches. I know I'm wearing you out, but the league is pivoted, and Sean McDermott was over his skis. When a league or a culture changes, seven of the last eight quarterbacks were offensive. You better pay attention if you own the Buffalo b But Nick Seriani when he got hired, a lot of people said he wasn't on the radar of many of the other job openings. But because the sport has leaned into Nick and he's been willing to admit what he does well and what he doesn't, he is now a force to be reckoned with the sport has changed. Those who see it and are willing to adapt will flourish. Buffalo hasn't where Colin was raw well. The Vikings messaging is they're going back to Kirk Cousins. I don't get it. You gotta draft a quarterback, you gotta make calls. Now they got to clean up the defense. So they're going to spend most of their draft capital on the back end, but they drafted a lot of defense last year. He has a market. It's not a huge market. It won't be nearly as big as Derek Carr's market, but he's got a market. I think you have to make calls. This has been a good franchise for years, never great. You may have to take a step back. I would, but the messaging is they're sticking with him. So I'm wrong on that. Where Colin was right, Aaron Rodgers could be traded. According to Adam Schefter, both Aaron on the Packers are fully aware a trade is on the table. The Packers plan to move off. According to Schefter, a number of key players and Rogers likes them and will not be pleased. I said three months ago the Titans have to be in play. Vrabels the coach, They've got the defense. It's a great city to get free agents. They don't have a guy, and Aaron's a guy. But Aaron keeps asking for concessions. He wants to get this guy back and that guy back. Aaron's not giving you the payoff at the end of the year. Like Lebron did in his prime or Brady in his prime. If you're gonna ask for concessions, you gotta be committed in the offseason. You gotta be a playoff quarterback. You gotta win playoff games. Aaron's not doing that. So I would rip the band aid off now and move the Jordan loves to get a couple of first round picks. I think it'd be better, frankly for Aaron and Green Bay. I think they'd both win where Colin was raw forty seven games in. The Warriors are twenty three and twenty four, and even though they played the Celtics well last week, they're bad defensively. They're giving up one hundred and eighteen points a game. That's terrible, their fourth worst road record. Is it chemistry? They're trying to kind of synchronize the old players and the young players and the bench players they've had. You know, Steph was gone for a while. There's so much I like about the franchise, and I think they'll be fine at the end of the year. But right now they are at times an egregiously inept defense, allowing the fourth most in the NBA, and the game game basis so I'm wrong where Colin was right. Finally, Adam Schefter reported multiple teams will be interested in Derek Carr. I don't understand the shay here. He leads the NFL in fourth quarter comebacks. Since he got drafted. He's had six coaches, utter chaos, bad gms, fired coaches. He's smart, he's an adult. He doesn't resolve every issue on social media. He's accurate. He's good trailing late. One of the things I like about quarterbacks, and I think it's a big separator. How do you play when you're behind? He actually plays really well. The offensive lines okay, not great. They've got nice weapons, but you can't tell me tomorrow. The Giants and the Jets would not be better with Derek Carr. I'm sorry, you're wrong. They would be, so, Schefter saying he's got a market. Also, Mike Silver, who's incredibly well connected, has been told talk to him this weekend that Carr has several teams very interested in his services, and they should. He's good. Colin Wright, Colin wrong on a Monday, Yes, why would you trade for him, give up valuable draft assets when you could just get him for free? When the Raiders cut bait right after the Super Bowl. Um it fair question. Um, but if you can secure it and give up a third round pick, wouldn't you. I mean you don't think quarter, but you don't think the Jets. Also, remember a car no trade clause, so he can reject if some bad team wants. I mean he wants. That's the really interesting part. So the Jets, I do not believe are in a rebuild. I think they've drafted so well. They need Carna left tackle. The Giants are still in a rebuild. They got to get another receiver or two, another tight end, two more interior. So I think the Giants feel a little bit now. Now the Giants have Dable an offensive coach, so he's been he's been brilliant. So it's an interesting thing. The Jets roster I think is really close. The Giants doesn't feel but the Giants have the offensive coach. And I just and saying this for months. That's a huge swing for me. And I should add Car if you read his like going away letter or whatever you want to call it, he's he was devastated. This is franchise moved on from me. He's pissed. He doesn't like Josh McDaniels. He said, I poured blood, sweat and tears into this team, and now you want to just dump me. He should reject every trade, say screw you, guys. I'm gonna pick where I go. That's what cars should do. How about this New Orleans Sean Payton, He's not going all right, Payton, go back to New Orleans. That division when Brady leaves that division is he's got the options of Russell Wilson or Derek Carr, and he's taken Derek Carr. Let me ask you this, Well, I'm saying, yeah, I think I would. I don't have to pay Derek Carr fair. First of all, he knows Peyton, knows all the little secrets and skeletons in New Orleans, knows the owner the weakness of straints, knows the GM Mickey Loomis, the roster's good. And no Mahomes twice a year, no Herbert twice a year. That division is gonna be like Desmond Ritter. I mean, Sarah, look around the division. Kyle, what's Trask? I don't even know if he's gonna be the guy in Tampa. So my takeaway is, what about what about Carolina? Well, it's the same division. But I think my takeaway with Sean is he'd rather go back to New Orleans in that division. But just think about this. One of the reasons that Brady liked the NFC South because you're gonna get a home plaoff game. So if Sean would take Derek Carter New Orleans, you're winning the division. It's not an argument. You're winning the division. You're getting a home playoff game. Minimum. You could go six and o in that division with Derek Carr and Peyton. Now I may get a buy. Well, all a buy means is I win one home game and I'm in the championship of my conference. AFC's much more loaded way. But again, Sean Payton's a competitor. He's not fearing anybody. What am I afraid of pet Home? But it's different. Sean Payton's not fearing Denver, but Mahomes and Andy Reid. He's aware of it. Like that's a difference between fearing it. Brian Kelly didn't fear the SEC, but he is aware he's gonna have to go beat Saban and Kirby Smart and laying Kiff it. It's a gauntlet. Yeah, you know, what I say to that, bring them on. I want all the smoke, like somebody here at this night I shouldn't be there. I had a good smoke this weekend, by the way, really after I won my singular playoff game. Good smoke. One more Herd. The Herd streams twenty four hours a day, seven days a week. Within the iHeartRadio app, search Herd to listen live or on demand. Whenever you like new wireless plan in the new year, make a difference, go to Consumer Cellular dot Com Slash the Herd twenty five dollars off. You don't have to change your phone, you don't have to change your number, and there's no activation fee. Our pleasure to have Fox Sports analyst Mark Sanchest ten years in the NFL. We were talking before we went on about Dak Prescott. He had never been a big interception guy. I would say that the old line is sort of in a rebuild mode, so you don't quite get the protection right, how to speed it up sometimes, but there's been some bad decisions. He almost had to pick six. So you know my takeaway is with Dak, I feel kind of like I've always loved the intangibles more than the tangibles someways I see why people your takeaway on like his second interception, He's won a lot of football games. Bottom line, I think there's still plenty of left in the tank for somebody like Dak. I think he's more than capable of taking this team deeper in the playoffs, getting to a super Bowl. I think their formula this year, and some guys throw more picks than others in general. Some guys throw more picks in a season than other seasons, and it happens that way. I think the benefit for them earlier in the season is dan Quinn and that defense got the ball back right and it erased their turnovers. While their margin isn't perfect, the turnover margin giveaways as opposed to takeaways, at least it you know, negated it to some sense. Right in this game, they give away two. They have dropped interceptions. They have other opportunities to get interceptions or fumbles or whatever doesn't work out. And when it doesn't work out and you go down OZ two in a playoff game on the road, it's like boom, those just come back to bite. Yeah, I think you know. Dalton schultzon like being nonchalant there at the end of the game. Those kind of things have to be solid. I know everybody's talking about the last play, but I mean, at that point, it's like the freaking you know, you turn into the Harlem Globetrotters. Pitchy, pitchy, whoo whoo, you know, pitch the ball, whoo whoo. I'm open like nobody knows what's going on. Those are those are one in a million at best. So I thought that second interception though, when things get tight, you got an option route over the middle ceedee Lambs number three matched up on a linebacker, you get the matchup you want, but they get zoned out, so it's not one on one completely. Right now, he's got three options. He can go up, sit down, if if Fred Warner blows out of there and leaves it open, he can slam on the brakes. If Fred Warner's close to him and he can stutter him, stare step him over the ball, he runs out the back door and continues going. This time he takes the third option, which is slam on the brakes, run away from Fred back the way you came, You pivot and go back. Well, when you do that, most importantly, Number one it's the third most likely, So the least likely of the three options that he takes. You get less time on tasks. With that, you get less reps at that. I don't care who it is. Your eyes have to immediately go back in front of where the guy is now going, because usually if you're a right hander, you can see him stop and you can kind of see you're peripheral. Okay, where's he going? Where's he going? I kind of see in front. Oh there's color in front. I gotta go. I gotta move somewhere else. When it's back the other way, you're closed off and you can't totally see it. So you have to retrain your eyes to get back out in front. And he completely missed Jimmy Ward and he made him pay. He's the one who had the pick and then tips it to Fred. So it was just one of those plays, like in a condensed environment, down and tight, you gotta be nails on all of those heightened situations, playoffs on the road, divisional. I mean, everything's getting tight. You gotta just sink to the level of your training, your fundamentals. Then you know later in the game. I thought that they had a chance to potentially go for it. Remember this was he scrambles on fourth down, gets the first down. They didn't kick it, even though Maher definitely has a fifty three yard club in his bag. But they're so scared because the field goal got blocked, plus last week's disaster on field goal team. It's like all these different factors lead up to this play. Tony Pollard had just gotten hurt. Like it was a calamity of errors that really led to the loss. And credit San Francisco. It's not like they were just lucking into some of these plays. Some of it was on Dallas, but some of it was San Francisco just playing sound and staying in their zone and not chasing the cheese of guys running away from you and standing where you're supposed to be, reading the quarterback size and zone. And they follow his eyes, you know, like a moth to a light. They just kind of zoom in there and get there, and so they beat him. What worries you about brought Purty in Philadelphia? I think one of the biggest things, Like this was probably his worst game by far. I think in between the numbers, he's nails. He has the juice to to hit those close ones and he gets bailed out by Kittle a ball almost off. You know, there's tight ends in the league that dropped that ball, or don't get a fingertip on it to get it back to themselves, or the guy hits him before he finally completes the catch. Whatever. I think that's a big one going on the road, But really the play before halftime and Shanahan he's a young kid, right, so you don't want to just wear him out. And Shanahan had to do everything in his power to put his play call a sheet like this, and I guarantee you if he was miked up, he would have a lot of bleeps in there, right, because they had five seconds left, right, and you kind of lose your bearings, almost like you know you're you're scuba diving and you can't tell which way is up. You just kind of lose it for a second. And that's why in those moments, I don't care if you're Tom Brady twenty plus years in or Brock Purdy less than ten games in as a starter or seven or whatever it is. You gotta have somebody reminding you in the headset, whether it's play caller, quarterback, coach, whatever the situation. Hey dude, you're going one to two. We have five seconds left. We gotta kick a field goal here. This ball is getting airmail to the seventh row if it ain't open right away. And when I say open, it's like open open. Somebody fell down, somebody screwed up. Nobody's close. We can't let this thing go the other way, and we definitely don't want to run out the time. He got lucky. That's like a huge critical situation. Those are three points. If they don't get those, that's a tighter ball game towards the end. By the way, I'm not sure they get him on the road. The clock guy was very hundred percent because somebody tipped the ball on the sidelines. That might have helped him, because I guarantee you they stopped the clock when the guy, the random guy was standing there was like a trainer or something caught the ball because usually you have to wait till the ball hits the ground. I thought Olsen did a good job. I'd been explaining that the ball has to hit the ground. It's not when it crosses the out of bounds line. Nobody's like. It's not like tennis, like you're kind of looking down the line. It doesn't work like that. It's got to hit it and uh, oh dude, he locked up. But you saw Shanahan. Yeah, when the thing goes over like this and they're not giving a play, they are ripping somebody. So he uh probably tore into him a little bit. The comp on Burrow of Brady there is um. Joe is so situationally good. Dad was a coach, could help, but listen, Alan is hyper athletic and gifted. But when you watch Joe, somebody told me this years ago. When it looks easy, that's great because none of this stuff is easy. That first drive in the game, he's part cyborg or Something's um. He's eerily similar to Tom in those kind of situations where you're just so calm and you have the lowest and steadiest heartbeat of anybody, and you're just easy and you're seeing it before it happens. And gosh, he just looks on the run to his left in the snow. I mean, it's everything that you want to see. He just keeps checking boxes and he said it, I want to say, like a month ago or whatever. He goes I might not be the best at anything he goes. But I'm top one, two or three and everything, you know what I mean, Like he can do it all. And so my only concern for these guys moving forward, let's talk about that, is is they did it last week with a with patchwork O line because a lot of guys are banged up. Harris. I mean that dude's tough as nails. Wow FORTI sticking that game out, playing on an injured knee in the cold like that, being a big guy like that, having to move other big men around that is that is tough work. So kudos to that guy. But this week they're doing it against Chris Jones, Jones and Frank Clark. To Chris Jones is probably him and him and Aaron Donald, Um, you know, maybe Simmons there you go Quinn and Williams Simmons, Simmons from you know Tennessee. Like those four are like, dude, that guy will ruin your Sunday. That guy will knock you out of Now it's an interior rushing, oh no doubt. And this interior rush is gonna be one of the best they faced in a while. It's like, are we gonna be able to keep burrow upright and not just getting the ball off, but like trying to keep him off the ground. Let's just keep his jersey clean a little bit. I think the first few games of the year he had so many hits and in like a calendar year, the numbers were astronomical. And then they ran Carolina out of the building with Joe Mixon and he went off and they finally started running the ball a little more. But they're gonna need him this week to neutralize that pass rush. You're gonna see some of the tight end screens, the running back screens to neutralize that pass rush, just to keep them off balance. And I think that's gonna be huge for the coordinator and for Joe, just to just to stay in rhythm so they don't end up chasing something here and having to completely abandon what they wanted to do. In this game against the Bills, they controlled it all from the jump, got out to a lead, and then kept the top on it on defense. Way to go head, hit some long foul balls up the sideline, Go ahead, take your shots down the field. Great, We'll just let them fall in complete like they were. They were nails. The other thing is the edge rusher in snow doesn't get great. Yeah, there's not. Yeah, it's hard that the speed and everything off the edge you're trying to round, you know, second base all the time your legs are you can't really stretch out and strain and stress, and then because you look like band beyond ice, you just get split out, you know. So all right, what worries you? Mahomes has a high ankle sprain? You told us during the break you haven't had one. They linger, and they're supposed to be incredibly painful. Do you worry about because so much of him isn't It's extension of exactly right. I mean when you look at the play concepts, if you were to just chart them on like an old school West Coast charting base, it's drives and all go specials and you know, exshell crosses and Winston like all the old school plays. They run them three or four times a game. They have a couple little wrinkles. When they had Tyreek, they throw guys on throwback flood and stutter him to the post. And they would do some of these plays where you're like, oh that looks like this, but wow, what a great wrinkle whatever. Well, they have all those, but it's if it's not open right away or it's not the right look. Mahomes just has this innate ability to just play street ball and get into these scramble drills which they practice all the time, and he extends the play without running all over the yard. He just has to buy a little time, let a guy free up a little bit, break off his route, and boom, reveal themselves to the quarterback. And if he doesn't have that ability, one, he's going to get less reps during the week because I guarantee, you know, yesterday, today, tomorrow, he's not gonna be doing much. I would be shocked if he's out there really moving around. It's later in the week where they'll probably ramp him up because they want to rest it, get the swelling out, and then it's you know, tap them up, shoot him up and figure out how to get on the field and then see how effective you can be. But that is concerning to me. If it's only as it's drawn up and it's one through five quickly in your progress and nothing extended that um, that really lends to the Bengals defense. So Jalen Hurts did not was not one hundred percent um. I love his story. I love doubted in college, doubted in the pros um and you know he also illustrates Aaron Rodgers some of this that you can get better once you're in this league. Oh for sure. You know, Mark, a lot of us think college pro that's what you are. Aaron's arm strength over three years behind, far got better. Jalen is a better distributor of the football today, he really is, and he's seeing it much better. He's becoming a better pocket passer. I just my only fear with him is that shoulder. Like you get one of these big d lineman and they land on him a couple of times they get enough pressure, Yeah, Bosa armstead of any of those guys, and he lands on it. Like I hope he's doing a little of that uh jiu jitsu stuff where they teach you how to fall and use the momentum and not fall on your throwing shoulder, because that's that's like their worst nightmare. If he stays healthy. This thing, I mean, this is almost a runaway train, you know, like this is tough to stop, but this is this is one of the best matchups I could think of in a while. For like an NFC Championship. This is gonna be um a slug fest because they both have that mentality. Obviously Philly, it'll be the most physical football, no doubt. Like these guys are gonna be sore for two weeks after this thing, like it was well you played for that had that component, well, no doubt, and it's you. They've kind of built a bully in Philly, you know, and nobody wants to go mess with that now. If anybody's up for it, it's San Francisco because of the way they play. They play a similar brand of football. So um, you know, my only thing is just keep Hurts upright again, keep them off that shoulder, don't let them land on it, and don't let those big guys fall on them. Keep that run game going. But they were oof, they were tough. I mean, Gainwell and Sanders had two hundred plus rushing yards between them. Yeah, you know, And that was the other thing. Hurts didn't go crazy in the run game last week or the other day. He had what thirty yards thirty plus yards or something, so it wasn't like, you know, if anything, they were smart with him. They didn't force him to keep the ball a ton um, and they got out to a huge lead, gave him a little break. So that's a little more time for the shoulder to heal. But um, that's really my only concern because he's playing lights out. Yeah, um, I don't even need a Daniel Jones question. I want to go back. I'm not taking a shot. But I mean, there's no reason to bang on the kid. I mean, what do you it is? Oh, he's gonna be fine. I don't know. I don't, I don't. I disagree on that. Him and Barkley will be fine. They're gonna tag one pay the other potentially, Like I think they'll be all right. He played, he played great. He played great this year for that roster. If you take outs receiver, do you take out the Viking games? He had like fourteen touchdown passes. That's like half the league. Who do you want him to throw him too? Well, again, I'll be an owl. Who who who are we gonna throw too? Okay? But nobody? Okay, I'll give an example. So Justin Herbert came into the league with a coach that got fired and an atrocious offensive line. He also had Keenan Allen and Mike Ways, and he ran around and threw some real ridiculous throat. Well that's because he's a huge talent. Okay, but he had guys streaking down the field that were, by the way, the elite players, top fifteen receivers. Okay, but again, Mike Williams, you'd have to go back Keenan Allen. They missstarts, those guys miss starts. And he was, by the way, he got tapped on the shoulder a minute before playing Mahomes and you're like, first game as a pro. I got four years of fifteen touchdown passes. Okay, but top to bottom, the roster that Daniel Jones is played with compared to the roster that Herbert's played with aren't even close. Well what about even close? What about Burrow Super Bowl last year with an atrocious old line, bad linebackers, bad across or across the what do you mean, bad linebackers, bad corners. I got the same guys this year, and I don't like their corners this year, and they just throttled the Bills. Well that I love. The offensive game played on twenty second could be a full any time here, Okay, I want to I want to go back to I think what's what's a fascinating story. There's four quarterbacks left in football. Three are exceptional. Brock Purdy is a gamer. Um. I do think he's kind of twitchy. I think he moves faster and you kind of think faster in real life. Yeah. Yeah, he's not a forty guy, but he's a guy. Yeah, he is twitchy. Um do you? Jaymack talked about this. They had a pretty conservative game plan yesterday, which I thought was smart, Like, this is a real defense. Okay, now it's a better defense. It's on the road. You're gonna have silent on everything's silent at the line. Again, you're the coach, you're feeling, Jamack is, they're going to have to do something you can't go on with a conservative game plan and win here. This is they'll have some shots built you have to. Yeah, And I think a lot of that's based on how that first quarter goes, based on how your first fifteen kind of plays goes. And Shanahan's got a ton of experience this way feeling out a game plan. But they're also going to be Shots don't have to mean the ball literally travels fifty yards in the air. A shot can be the tight end screen or a reverse or some sort of double pass or something that generates some offense without making purty you know, go deep play action, seven step, drop two, hitch and chuck a ball fifty yard. He might not have to do that. You can figure out ways to manufacture big plays and it could be a third down or a short yardist kind of screen that catches him. And so if anybody's ready for that, it's somebody like Kyle Shanahan who's done it forever. So I think most importantly he's gonna put them in good spots and then they'll have, you know, five to seven calls that are hey, dude, this is one of them when we get this look and I dial it right and we hit. You gotta hit this one like there's no hit over the guy's head and make them go run under it, you know what I mean. There's no way we're missing these ones. And it's for a specific look. If it ain't this look, you check it down or fall down or throw it in the stands. I don't care. But we're not gonna lose on these plays. We just might have a big splash play if we can nail him and I can time it up perfectly with their defense, and he'll they'll have at least a handful maybe three plays where that's going to happen. And I mean it'll be Shanahan like like this on the sideline. Oh boy, here we go and either you know, heck yes, or and you know and you kind of know by Thursday at practice, Oh yeah, these are gonna be the three. Yeah, they'll be all right. This is the look and this is the play. And here we go. We either get it or we don't. And here's our indicator with the motion. With the way we line up, We're gonna put Kittle McCaffrey next to each other, shift them over to the other side. See who runs with them. If this guy runs with them, and this guy runs with them, great, we're in keep it on. If not, check out of it because it's slay right there and we don't want that boom. Let's go the other way. So you know what I'm really interested in Lane Johnson. If you guys watch too, I love he comes on the man. He but he was not one hundred percent. No, you could see. And my thing is what's so ironic about this league? These are the two most physical teams. Philadelphia Niners through various parts of the season, they've been all danged done. Now the Niners. The only thing the Niners have is a third quarterback because of injuries, and Jalen Hurts isn't healthy. All these combatants are healthy. It's the quarterback situation after a game like that totally hijacking the show. But if Garoppolo is healthy, what do you mean if you Garo's healthy, Garoppolo is healthy and you win the game? Yeah, I'm saying last week, after the game we saw from Brock new solid you solid? It was solid, wasn't amazing? A couple plays there, he'd probably want back whatever situations, do you put Garoppolo back in for this game, for this game? No? If he was healthy, no way do you. I don't know, I don't know. I don't think so you know why. One of it is is I think I think Brock's mobility is this week. You don't want to just sit in up pocket with this Eagles line. I think it helps. Here's the question interesting one though, What if Brock, what if it's fourteen three at half, you're trailing, and Jimmy's ready and and Brock is struggling and he's thrown three picks already, or I'd get then I would give Brock a series. If not, then I go to Jimmy. That one. You might have to what if what if Brock plays poorly they get to a super Bowl? God and they But I mean there are scenarios where yeah, if he yeah, if he went out there, and I would really lean purtty, I'd go into a guitar to take out the hot hand. It really is also, and Jimmy would have to be like healthy, healthy, like great quarterbacks have bad halfs. It's okay, oof, good stuff today, Sanchez, fun, you brought your a game. I'll give you. I'll give you a mulligan on the Daniel Jones opinion. Oh get out of here, Mark Sanchez, You and Olson have been really a good addition. Boy that Greg did a great job yesterday. He's a gamer. We loved having you. Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd week dayson noon eastern nine am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio FS one and the iHeartRadio app. This is Steve Cavino and Rich Davis, and together we are Cavino enriched Cavino and Rich. 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Josh Allens had a bad online gives you thirty five touchdowns a year. Mahomes gave you fifty first year. Starting Now you can say, oh, they have better receivers. Yeah, the Giants will probably draft another good receiver. But you can't depend on the Giants because they made the playoffs getting a great receiver. You can't depend on them getting a great tight end. Daniel Jones gives you about half the production you need at quarterback. Yes, I think you could go from fifteen touchdown to twenty two. You're not going to thirty four and thirty five. It's like, folks, with Brian Dable, a great left tackle, a running back, you gotta give me more than fifteen touchdown passes receiver to complete him. He'll be so much better with a better Yeah, the receiving corpse stinks, but that doesn't automatically mean what DeAndre Hopkins you weren't trade for. Joe Burrow was missing Joe Mixon and Jamar Chase this year for like a monthle we know he's not Borrow, Well, I know, but it means it's like his production didn't dip. Franchise quarterbacks overcome they overcome bad ola. Josh Allen's got a battle one of no run game. He's ending up in the playoffs every year. You can't just keep well, if we get this and this. What if you don't you know what the move is. Yeah, I don't want to say lowballing, but you're offer him me I twenty five million years. Oh right? Man? If he says, come on, are you kidding me? Say all right, go test the market to see what you can get. Yeah, and maybe Atlanta or some of the franchise overpays. But I don't see that. I don't think that. I don't think he has a market. I think Kirk Cousins has a two team market. Cars got a four to five team market Tennessee. Maybe could they kick the tires if Brian Tannehill's gone, hey, we'll sell the Daniel Jones and Derrick Henry show, they're they're making a call in Aaron you know they're making a call on Yeah, they're making a call. And I'm not being harsh on Daniel Jones. He's just fifteen touchdowns a year, four years in and that's with Brian Babel. That's the ceiling. I think Brian Dabele elevated him big time out the ceiling. This is it. So now you got to elevate and go for let's say again, the Giants made the playoffs they're not going to get the best receiver in the draft because there's four or five other teams that need a receiver. Not a great receiver draft, by the way, not early. Yeah. J Mack with the News turns this is the herd line news. Speaking of receivers. Stefan Diggs four catches for thirty five yards, and he was angry. If you're want to get home, look at this, just yelling at Josh Allen and I think that's the OC and Josh Allen's just staring at his iPad tablet deal and Diggs reportedly later Colin try to leave the locker room with his jersey on before some of the coaches even got off the field. He had to be coaxed back by teammate Duke Johnson, who I think it's like a practice squad. Guy. It got ugly there, listen. Losing stinks. Um. Stop throwing to Gabriel Davis. Please stop throw to Diggs please? Yeah, date Davis A bit of a disappointment this year. I don't Colin, there's a lot the Buffalo Bills need to do this a lot. I'm gonna go through a couple of the free agents. Jordan Poyer free agent Saffold on the offensive line did not have a good year. Free agent Phillips defensive lineman, free agent Edmonds second best linebacker, free agent Shack Lawson, Devin Singletary, Dane Jackson. It's at least five to seven key contributors are free agents. And oh, by the way, Josh Allen's contract kicks in. His cap hit goes from sixteen million on the rookie deal to thirty nine million dollars with an organization that appears since Dayble left to not have a great sensibility with offense. You can see them taking a little bit of a step back here. Absolutely. I mean, I'm sorry. The door is open for the New York Jets to make him all right, thanks too far, even for Cowherd. As we wrap up the second al right, next out, Cowboys. Hey, how about this final play yesterday? Zeke Elly got a sacrificial lamb as the center at column. This is he got dump trucked there on the hike. I don't know if he was trying. What if the eight I'll say this quietly, what if that was his last play as a Cowboy? Now he's a huge cap hit last next year, Zeke and Dak are huge. Sorry Jerry, they are. It was half in jest there, but Tony poll contract now is atrocious. It's bad. It is a liability to the franchise. Indeed. Uh so after the snap, Um, Jimmy Ward obviously made the tackle on turpid end of the game. Here's Mike McCarthy talking about what the hell they were trying there with the final snap. It didn't get going, So, um yeah, I really want to get into the detail. But that's obviously wasn't the plan, you know, so um yeah, I mean it's um, it's obviously a gadget player or whatever. It's a it's a last play situation called we practice so Colin, which was worse this final play now they nothing was gonna happen here going eighty yards or last year where Dak scrambled, remember here it is. I think we have video of it now the Niners remember Dak ran and the clock ran out. Now that was worse because that Dak Prescott has got and Mike McCarthy have got to know the clock. This is. This is a flag football play. This was last year. It's like, guys, here there's eleven ten nine, what are you doing? That to me was egregious, and also that that situation that was still a winnable game. You're not going eighty yards on that play. That stuff is a bigger thing, and it hasn't been talked about. Haven't seen much of it on social. So Tony Pollard gets knocked out of the game right before half. Right, forty nine ers fumble a punt in their own end. Dallas is driving. Dak dumps one off to Zeke in the middle, goes right off his arms right like the two yard line. If Tony Pollard's in there, he's a much better receiving backties. I mean, Colin. That had to hurt man that Tony Pollard lost his big I'm not kidding. After Cede Lamb, he's their second best skill pay listener. Dallas has an issue Zeke. Go look up Zeke's cap hit and Dak is number two in the league. In the league, you can argue this was the year to do it. Dalton Schultz free agent, Tony Pollard free agent. You can't afford those guys. Those are two pivotal dudes. Like Ceedee Lamb had a good game. Yeah, I get that. No, Tony Pollard after Ceedee Lamb is their second big playmaker offensively. Michael Gallup on a milk cart, he said he's Michael Gallup is the final story. Real quick. Lakers just made a trade. They got Ruey Hutchi Moura for Kendrick Nunn and some third round draft pick A second round draft picks like five years from now. Ruey Hutchimura added to the Lakers column, this is sneaky, good move wing player. Yeah, he's like forty percent on catching three's the last two years. I like it for the Lakers. Yeah, we don't have much longer. Maybe we'll talk about it in the Power Hour to wrap up the show that that's officially patented Power Hour. Okay, a number three necks