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So if he went to a bad team with a bad oldline, Bryce Young, that's trouble. So and Stroud and will Levis they're fine. I've come to a point. For years and years, I've always made big predictions on quarterback. Sometimes I've been very right Zach Wilson, sometimes I've been very wrong, Sam Darnold, very right, Baker Mayfield, JaMarcus Russell. I've really come to the point all these years, is I view them now differently. There are ninety percent of the quarterbacks that come out, maybe nine will be as successful as the organization they inherit bad coach, bad line, bad structure, You're screwed. And then there's Andrew Lucke, and there's Trevor Lawrence, and next year I think there's Caleb Williams. Then you get the occasional maybe twice a decade ish outlier, and that may become three or four because quarterback play is getting better and more advanced at an earlier age. The way I look at quarterbacks now is overwhelmingly there's a couple of times a decade again that may be greater. But we watched how good Josh Allen was and how bad he was as a rookie, and how he regressed this year when he didn't have the right coach right, he didn't have Brian Dabele. And that's Josh Allen, that is a mega talent. We watched Trevor Lawrence as a rookie be engulfed in flames. This year he made the playoffs. So coaching matters, structure matters. I think next year you have two guys. I'll watch him again this year. But my gut feeling is they were so good as like sophomores or underclassman, they will succeed. I don't think Justin Fields is good enough. I mean, you can say what you want about the Bears offensive line. Justin Herbert went to the Chargers with the second worst offensive line in the league according to PFF thirty one touchdowns ten. It was an offlow line and a coach that got fired. I mean, Justin Fields, to me, he's just not talented enough to overcome the nonsense in Chicago. And so next year I was saying to Jmack, who, who do we know is gonna be bad next year? You know this this league is hard, but Houston and Arizona look really bad, very bad. Yeah. After that, you could argue about the Colt, you could argue about Chicago. If the Jets don't land a quarterback, watch out a Houston Arizona there's problems. Houston is a multi year rebuild. Arizona. I mean Arizonas even have a coach yet, do they? I don't think they've fired a coach. Kyler Murrie ain't gonna start the season. I don't think he'll be there for You know, if Arizona starts like two and seven without Kyler Murray, what's he coming back for? By the way, if they start two and seven, Kyler, why don't you just sit out? Well, let me toss the team out you real quick. Tom Brady's retired, Tampa Bay is looking at Kyle Trass. Or they could say, hey, let's throw a hail Mary to Derek Carr, bring him in and rejuvenate things. Or hey what if we just tore it down. We said Mike Evans, let's trade him. He's you know, getting up there in age. Make me get a second round pick for Mike Evans. I don't know. Defense is gonna lose like five or six starters, free agent, Why don't we just stink for a year, try to reboot and get a great quarterback. Also, they have a Super Bowl and three playoff years in a row, so they have equity with their fans. You know their fans aren't sitting here starving for wins, so you lose Brady. I think it's a really good point. I think Garoppolo could fit and you'd win games. And I don't think you're Are you coming out of the NFC with Jimmy Garoppolo in Tampa? Remember this is not Tom Brady Tampa coming out of the NFC. No winning the division potentially, Yes, But I think your point is a legitimate one, which is when you have equity with a fan base. And I lived in Tampa for a couple of years. They loved their bucks. They love their bucks. You've had a lot of stability last three years and a lot of wins, playoff wins. I think the fans would be like if you if you hold fans in Tampa, my guess is the smart ones overwhelmingly would be we take tanking and get Kayleb Williams or Drake Man. Those guys are a plus plus talent. You know who doesn't want that? Todd Bowles who just had a bad year. They got destroyed at home in the playoffs, and if they win three games next year, is Bol's coming back? So he's gonna push against He's gonna push back against it, but it is an organization. What's best for the franchise. It's probably being very bad. I don't think you're wrong. And if Houston takes Bryce Young and they're bad, they won't take a quarterback. So even if Atlanta is worse than you, you don't have to have the number one pick because Houston's getting a quarterback this year. Somebody else is drafting CJ. Stroud that's currently bad, they won't. So just because somebody if you have the third worst record, doesn't mean the first two team in Houston is going to take a quarterback. And by the way, so if Arizona is bad, they still have Kyler Murray's contracts now, they won't take a quarterback. Arizona gets very interesting what they do. I will say, I'm quietly rooting for Bryce Young to Detroit. I believe it's six with that offensive mind cops, with that offensive line. Jared Goff is fine. You know, you know what is better than fine? A quarterback on a rookie deal and you can build all around Detroit and that's an NFC potential Philadelphia style in Detroit. I love this idea. Do you see Jared goffs numbers this year? Did you watch him out dual Aaron Rodgers at Lambeau. He lives near me on the beach out here in the can go play volleyball. His dog looks identical to mina golden retriever. All very fascinating. Greg go Sell forty three years NFL Films joins us live anyway, Um, all right, Tom put his feet in the Sandy's retired. When when you go back about defining quarterback characteristics of Tom Brady and you look at film, Um, I mean, this is what you do for a living. What are things when to be the go, you've got to be pretty special at multiple things. What are the defining characteristics you look at when you look at all these quarterbacks and you say, yep, he did that as well as anybody else. He did that as well as anybody else. Well, because I don't get to do what teams do and spend time with players. Let's say, leading up to a draft, I'm looking at it from sitting in my office and watching tea, and I would say that the things that stand out to me about Brady number one, he was precisely accurate. His ball placement was consistently precise, And I think you have to start there because when all's said and done, if you can't throw the ball where you want to, you don't have anything. Number Two, the thing that stood out to me as his career progressed was just how good he was before the ball was snapped. Yeah. We live in an era now, Colin where defenses are far more multiple, far more detailed, are more nuanced than they ever were. And to be a really great quarterback snap after snap, weekend and week out for years and years, you really have to have a great understanding of the game, both with your offense and what defenses are showing you before the snap of the ball. It's too hard to figure this out as you're dropping back because everything is happening so fast. So to me, Tom Brady was an absolute master at knowing what was going on before the ball was snapped. Yeah, and then the ability to repeat. And a lot of people don't talk about this anymore, and some people don't think it's important. Maybe I'm old school column, but I do repetitive mechanics. He threw the ball the same way all the time. I know now with what Patrick Mahomes does, and he's incredibly special. I mean, you know, you know you're not necessarily going to teach a young kid to play like Patrick Mahomes with all those off platform throws and all those kinds of things that he can just do because he's truly special. You teach someone how to do it the right way. And to me, Tom Brady everything was done the right way of the time, repetitive mechanics. He looked the same throwing the ball, his footwork, his base, his upper body, everything was in sync. He delivered the ball the right way all the time. And I think that those things really stand out to me about Brady. But one quick point, you couldn't make the argument that although defenses have changed, and although teams obviously throw the ball far more than they did years ago, he essentially plays the game the way let's say Bart Starr and Bob Greasy played the game forty fifty years sixty years ago. You know, he's not a runaround guy. He drops back and delivers the football. It's just that team, you know, the game, the game has changed around him, and therefore he's had to do other things like be phenomen before the snap, as I mentioned. But for the most part, he plays the game. Like the old school quarterbacks, he also had a good enough arm to make all the throws. But it wasn't correct, but it wasn't great enough that he fell in love with it. A lot of the strong arm quarterbacks, they fall in love with their arm. They don't work as hard. They think there's more farve. He fell in love with his arm. He'd make throws you shouldn't make ill advised. Tom's was always I always said this about Andrew Luck. I was talking to a scout guy, Bunce about this. I said, his arm is good enough, but it's not great enough that he's not going to work really, really hard. And I think Tom I always thought through a great bad weather ball because of his hip turn. I always thought his ball moved. I remember years and years ago he played the game in Chicago and it was white out, it was snowing everywhere, and he threw a ball at the sidelines and it was windy, and I thought, that is a great ball in lousy weather. And so it was always a good enough arm, but not now. For the record, Mahomes has a great arm, and he still was an incredible work ethic. But I do think that can get into trouble now, No, And I agree, and I think you know, people forget that where Brady played his ball cut through the wind in Foxboro with no problem at all. Yeah, you're right. So Sean Payton, this is what he does. I mean, his last year in New Orleans they went nine and eight with Trevor Simeon. No, Michael Thomas Camaro was hurt, Jamis Winston and Taysom Hill. So this is what he does. And they you know, you go look at the last couple of years with Teddy Bridgewater went five and oz with him. This is what he does? What part? Where does Russell Wilson? Because I said the drop off on hitting deep balls was shocking. I always thought he was a great rainbow. It was awful. It was awful. That seems to me to be a priority. When you look at the Russell tape and he was a little better end of the year beginning, where do you see areas he's got to improve. Well, let's let's look at the marriage between the two because I think ultimately Sean Payton in his NFL career, for almost all of it was with Drew Brees. And what kind of quarterback was Breeze Breeze was a precision player. Breeze was not, even though he was a very good athlete, better than people thought, Breeze was not really a second reaction player. Everything was schemed, designed and executed ninety nine percent of the time within structure. That's the way Sean Payton will teach it. So now the question becomes Russell Wilson, who I believe is capable of doing that. But there's a mindset that goes with that. You have to be willing to stay in the pocket late in the down and work through the routes and the progressions. You have to be willing to do that. Breeze was a master at that, and then finding space or finding an angle to deliver the football, given that he was just six feet I think Wilson is capable of that. He hasn't done a lot of that in his career. Normally he moves. Don't forget He's been sacked a ton in his career, Colin, and normally quarterbacks that get sacked a ton a large percentage that falls on them, A meaningful percentage. I don't want to say large, a meaningful percentage. So I think Wilson, in some ways we'll have to adjust his mindset and maybe we'll find out if he can or he can. I think he's physically capable of doing what I suggested, but then you have the mental part, and you know he's played a certain way for a very very long time. So we'll see how that plays out. But this is an offense that will be built on precision and structure, and we know that Russell Wilson at times does not like to play that way. Yeah, I want to go. I thought the story that didn't get discussed was Kansas City's defense against the Bengals. Joe Burroll had his worst game since Week one, coming off that major surgery. And you know, Burroll just did not have a lot of bad Sundays this year. Accurate, situationally excellent, and I thought he was really off. And you know, Kansas City's got some rookies on the back end. You know, this was a game I thought Cincinnati would figure out a way late like they are prone to do, to have a great second half and figure out a way to win. What did Kansas City do defensively to give Burrel a rare off game by his standards. It's funny you say that about Kansas City because one sneed got hurt after four plays in their dime defense with six defensive backs, which they played about twenty five snaps in the game. They were playing with four rookies colin in their dime defense, and that really hasn't been talked about. I mean, you're in an AFC championship game against a great quarterback with three well a boy got hurt, but with you know, quality quality wide receivers and you're playing with four rookies. Now, they played a ton in this game of split safety. Okay, that was their coverage foundation. They play a lot of zone with split safety, and they played a lot of two man coverage, meaning two deep safeties and man underneath. That's a really good coverage against good receivers. And what they did a lot in this game is they bracketed Jamar Chase, So they took Burrow off of Chase, and now you've got to go somewhere else, okay, And that always changes the mindset of a quarterback. Now, obviously Burrow made some really good throws to touchdown to Higgins for twenty seven yards. Came where they actually bracketed Chase, so he did make some plays. But then you also get into the pass rush. This is a team that is predominantly and has been this year, a four man d line pass rush, and they really have good players. Chris Young, Chris Jones is that when everybody thinks about. But you obviously have Frank Clark, Dunlap and Michael Danna, number fifty one is a really good player for the Chiefs. He lines up inside and outside, so they were capable of really wheezing the pocket throughout the game. And they are long, with the exception of Dan and these are long athletes, so you know, they played a certain way and it was very effective. And you know, as I said, they bracketed Chase quite a bit throughout the game. What stood out to you about Patrick Mahomes and his offensive performance. No, I think we spoke about this last week, but I am just so so impressed. I mean, and just his awareness of where people are is mind boggling to me. Is spatial awareness, because I gotta tell you, I've been watching Mahomes going back to his last two years in college when I studied him in detail, and I'll be the first to admit that I had questions about whether he would be a highly successful NFL quarterback because he just moves Colin, he just moves, and he's does that in the NFL too. There are the tape tells you there are many times he moves when there's no reason to move, there's no past rush pressure by NFL standard, and he just moves. But his spatial awareness, his vision that goes along with that is just remarkable. You know. I'm not sure we've seen a guy with those two things at the level of Patrick Mahomes. And of course his arm is sensational on his ability to throw from different angles. And by the way, what I said is no knock on the fact that he can also throw really really well from the pocket. But I think it's just in his DNA to move, and I think that makes it really hard on defense is I remember talking to a coach a couple of years ago who said, when you play against Mahomes, it is really tough because in a sense, you have to have two separate defenses. You have to have one for the first two seconds of a play and then for what happens after two seconds. And that's just really really hard. All right, let's go to Philadelphia nine ers. What can we take away from the Eagles defensive performance because Perdy got hurt in the second quarter. What don't we take away from it? I don't take much away from that at all. We know what the Eagles defense is. We know what they are. They're not going to dramatically changed. You know that game as far as everything changed and when Purdy got hurt, and it's just very hard to really make any comment that means anything besides speculative. We know what the Eagles defense is, so you know that that. To me, there was not a lot there. Okay, so let's talk Jalen hurts then, because I think there is a lot here. There is. I don't I didn't think he threw a touch. I thought some of his underneath routes were low, I mean like down on the shoes. He's obviously hurt. What did the film say? Yeah, I think that since he's come back from injury and he may be hurting far more than we know. I don't think he's played particularly well. Um. I think that he's been out of rhythm on his drop and his set in his delivery. I think he's been playing a little fast mentally and that results in him playing a little fast physically. So what he's been doing, which he did early in his career, you know, in his second season. More so is he breaks down in the pocket when there's no need to break down in the pocket. He's getting rid of the ball before route concepts have a chance to develop. He has not looked like he did earlier in the season, prior to the injury, when he was playing really well. And so what's happening is he's just everything is too It's an interesting combination column. It's fast but yet too deliberate, like he's just not seeing it the way he should see it and then reacting properly. And you know, we'll, obviously next week talk more about the specific matchup against the Chiefs, but Jalen Hurts is going to have to play better than he has in the playoffs, which is an odd thing to say, and people hearing this might say, you don't know what you're talking about, because they won, you know, thirty eight seven and thirty one seven. But if you're just isolating Jalen Hurts and evaluating him, he has not played anywhere near the same level he did earlier in the season. Okay, let's talk about their run game. We'll eventually get to the big play would you give us every week? The run game? What makes up special? You know the thing about their run game, First of all, there's so many potential post snap things that a defense has to deal with. Colin. You know, Hurts is in the gun on almost every play, and there's a more often than not, an offset back, So you've got so many elements to deal with. And as I get to the play, we'll talk about this as well. But you know, you could have four or five different potential plays that could happen from Hurts being in the gun with an offset back, and it just makes it really, really hard to defend. So their run game is really good, they end up getting numbers. They always have the zone read out into their game with Hurts, so there's just so much you have to defend, not only from their play perspective, but how you choose to align, because so much depends on pre snap alignment, because if you get caught with numbers, as they did a number of times the Niners did a number of times in that game, then you're going to get beat. So their run game is really really tough to defend. A big play of the week, then, is it's going to be the Sanders thirteen yard touchdown that put them ahead fourteen seven. And this speaks to just what I was talking about. So let's show the play Collin. This ended a long drive late in the second quarter and it made the game fourteen seven. And this just speaks to what I said. So you're gonna see Jalen Hurts in the gun. Now, Miles Sanders will be offset to his right to the wide side of the field, and then you're gonna get a tight bunch to the same side. So you've got four receivers to the wide side, and then you've got divine to Smith to the other side. Okay, the single receiver. There's five plays that could happen here inside zone zone read RPO, bubble screen, the fade to Smith. So here they just handed it off as on the inside zone. So what do you get? These are the numbers I was talking about. You get three on three to the run side to play side. Every offense will take that. In the run games. Three on three, you see Kelsey on the fall block, come around Greenlaw tries to step inside. Doesn't work. But there's five plays that could have been run here, and the defense gets caught from a numbers perspective. They did not have the numbers they needed to defend the zone run to the weak side of the formation. This is one reason why this run game is so difficult to defend. Forty three years. NFL Films will talk next week and break it all down the Eagles and the Chiefs. Good seeing you, Greg, Thanks con appreciate it. You bet be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays and Noone Easter not a Empacific on Fox Sports Radio FS one and the iHeartRadio app. Is interesting. Greg Kosell talking about the repetitive nature of Brady and you know, Brady, here comes Mahomes into the league and he's thrown sidearm, and you know, Josh Allen's running around. Somebody once told me wealth was boring. Create something great, put it on a conveyor belt, and sell it over and over and over. That's why most artists and creators aren't rich. Wealth can be boring. And Brady the classic. This is my motion. I'm going to repeat it. I'm going to be great pre snap, I'm going to be obsessed with film accuracy. His game. There wasn't a lot of variance to it. You kind of knew what you got. He was going to outstudy you, breakdown film, be great pre snap, and then accurately deliver the ball. It was really simple, almost boring if sports could possibly be boring, and it wasn't with Brady. Jamack with the news. No, No, this is the Herdline News speaking of Brady Colin six Super Bowls in New England and team owner Robert Kraft is confident that no quarterback will ever compare to Tom Brady. It's like he watched the show yesterday. I don't believe in the one hundred year history of the NFL there's been a quarterback of Tom's ilk. I would have trouble ever believing there will be another one. It's Robert Kraft. There will be a lot of different variations of great. But you know, if you look at the generation where Tom won a majority of his Super Bowl as a majority, it was a defense league and you're not allowed to play that level of defense. So I mean it's also Brady was very fortunate that he had he won several early before he made the big money and so and that's really key in this. The difference between seven and four can be you know, Brady took the pay cuts. And by the way, Mahomes has got a very team friendly deal too, although not a pay cut, it's team friendly. But Brady got a lot of these when he wasn't making a lot of money. Now we have a very clear reality in the NFL. If you are a top five quarterback cap hit, you will not win a super Bowl. You will not And so two things happened. Brady got a lot of these trophies when he wasn't making big money, and he had a defense, and you could win an NFL Super Bowl with mostly a great defense, then that's not the way it works now. The second thing is Tom was smart enough to realize winning's the thing, and so I don't need to be the highest paid. But so you're gonna it's gonna take somebody if you want to get to like seven. And because Tom holds every record that matters, I mean, like go to the record book. He virtually holds everything, you're gonna have to find somebody that has two qualities. They're gonna have to win, like Mahomes. They're gonna have to win early before the big money. So if Mahomes won this year, you know he'd have two And now the money's getting gigantic. The second thing is you have to have an individual willing to take less because he really cares about winning. And I just don't think they're Aaron won't, Russell Wilson won't. Most guys won't take less. Wait to say Brady also was able to take less because his wife was a supermodel, but he was worth five million dollars. But Tom took less before Jizelle. People don't ever talk about he did. So Tom oways, well, he was never the highest paid quarterback ever, and he went to Scott Paoli Verry early in his career and said, all take less than the market. This was pretty zella. You gotta spend up to this cap so and this is my only beef with it. Right, So, Jalen Hurts has made a rapid ascension. He's gonna bede a lot of money. The Eagles are probably gonna come to him and say, hey, if you take a little less, you know we'll be able to build a team. Well, are you taking less? The GM are you taking? Is the head coach taking less so they can add to the staff. Why should I be the one to sacrifice. I'm the most important guy here, Like some of these quarterbacks, I think should Joe Burrow. I don't think it's being greedy. Let's not say that. I don't want to get in the guy's pockets. But at some point, Colin, you gotta ask, like, well, should he take less Joe Burrow? Jalen hurts, Yes, they should. Gms don't have a salary cap. Gms don't make millions of dollars in social media and shoe deals, so a general manager should take what he can take a player now, an NFL player, forget basketball. An NFL player can make seven figures easily that never existed in social media, seven figures easily in endorsements that didn't exist. I can remember Donovan McNabb doing a Chunky soup commercial and thinking, oh my, got a national ad for a football player. Basketball players had shoo deals that felt like doctor j but it wasn't. It's not long ago that like obj now created a market of football players making money on shoes. So there's a lot of different ways to make money now that did not exist earlier. Burrow could make seven figures on social he can make seven figures on endorsements. So why do we say this about NFL quarterbacks? And we don't say this about NBA stars. Curry is making fifty mil Lebron is always one of the highest paid in the n But Lebron did not take the most money in Miami. He didn't. Kevin Durant, I believe. I think he took less in Golden State. Kevin Durant took less in Golden State. Rubs me. I mean, I get it, yes, from a t building perspective. Doesn't rub me the wrong way anymore. And I've said this a million times on this show. Do not chase money, chase management. For talented people. There's a sea of money, and if you just take care of yourself, take care of your vocal cords. I can do this for Joe Burrow's gonna be looking at to Sean Watson saying, man, that guy got full Gary. You know what, He's gonna look into Shaun Watson and say, how's it to play for a lousy owner and allousy franchise? Joe Burrows, It's pretty good while he throws on hundred dollar bills out of his pocket. Again, envy, I'm not interested in it. And Tom Brady never envied anybody. But I love I love Russell Wilson and Aaron's talent. They took max money, so Burrow takes less money or Jalen hurts and you don't win the super Bowl and you're like, wait a sa I took less money so you could build a contender and you didn't do your job. I did my job? Then what that sounds like a lot of ego as a quarterback. Joe Burrow's freaking incredible? Is he not? Oh? By the way, start looking at their last several raff They've been pretty incredible they have. They've hit a lot of home runs. Yeah, you could have a defensive coach. You could be you could be justin fields and have a defensive coach in the bad old line. Let's go to Buffalo real quick before we move on. So Josh Allen, he got his money. End of the season, half bro, we didn't get to the suit, we didn't get the conference championship. Don't blame me again, German, are you doing your job? I hear a lot of ego that, don't blame me. That's not what I want from a quarterback. I want Hey, we us together. If money were drive, you're you're we do this as a job. On Monday, morning. It's kind of sort of the blame gig. Whose fault is it that the Buffalo Bills got smacked around at home? I thought it was coaching, okay, so shouldn't there be some kind but but but pressure on mc There's got to be some raimification, doesn't doesn't Don't the Bills get credit for hiring Brian day Ball and saving Josh Allen's wobbly, ineffective career and making him a fortune. They got him Stefon Diggs. They also got him von Miller. Do the Bills not credit? It's not like the bill are poorly run. The Bills are well run. But McDermott I thought got out coached in a playoff game. But Stollington Bills haven't done a great job for Josh Allen. I don't love their online but von Miller Stefan they spent big boy money. Uh dable by the way, Ken Dorsey was the hot coach on the market when they brought Ken Dorsey, and I didn't love what I saw. But Ken Dorsey was an elite seven figure candidate, looked elite. I hear a lot of point game against the Bengals there in the playoffs. Let the elite great. What do you want to beat? Do you want to win games and have one hundred million in the bank or lose games and have one hundred and forty I want it all. I want the money and I want the wins. That's what I want. I want my cake and I want to be able to eat it. Too sound self asking for too much. It sounds selfish. You got one life, man, you gotta get it all. Enjoy it. You can't get it all. Top five quarterback cat pits, no Super Bowls, it doesn't happen anymore. Figure it out. GM your job. Figure it out. I'm doing, but I hold it up my end of the bargain, all right, Next your poor wife, damn you. Cowboys are looking for a new offensive coordinator after Kellamore left, but whoever they hire won't be calling plays. Jerry Jones confirmed Mike McCarthy will be taking over that role. With the success we've had over the last two years, this is the logical step to build on it and use what we've established, or if you will, the foundation of the wins we've got. This is a time for us to build on it. And that's what this is. This is a building step, but it will be in principle the way he operated in Green Bay, which I'm sure he'll tell you evolved. It's gonna have a little duck hunting or something like that. Do you ever played that game on Nindendo Duck Hunt? No? I never have you got a video game? Guy? Huh? I played Asteroids and pac Man Love pac Man, Love Asteroids. And then I turned twelve and Colbo. Know what you need to get is one of those stand up video games for your garage, when you can play pac Man in the garage over hanging out. That's what I need to get. You have a man cave, No, I don't have a man cave. That's what I need to get all the things I need to get a stand up video or you could get a ping pong table. Invite me over and I'll destroy you in pink ball. You know what I need? Have a beer with my buddy tonight, I'm gonna go to a Who are you going? I'm not gonna say, but it's good I getting the invite. Well, we're very busy talking business. You play your video games. Vital story is the Golden State Warriors. Man. These guys just can't extreme they're only planned seven guys. Well, we're gonna get to that. I have that in my note team. Okay, Curry had a good game twenty nine and ten, but had zero points in overtime when they lost the game. Boldens take turned the bowl over nine times in the fourth quarter and overtime snap the three game skid, losing to the Minnesota Timberwolves. Colin I looked at the box score, did not play. Yeah, Moses Moody did not play coming a kind of plays kind of how many minutes? You know why they kept those guys in because they need the wins. No, they only have They only essentially play Um Steph, Clay Wiggans, Dre Looney, Jordan Pool. So that's their six. And then they give cominga at there's the other kid, the guard, the Villanova player, Donzo. Yeah, yeah, they play him. He's been pretty effective. So they go they go seven deep, and then they kind of a little bit play Kuminga but not in key spots. So you're playing seven guys and this is an old team they play are trying to win this game, and they could not stop Naz Reid. And when nas Read gets going, he want watch out. Uh, Anthony Edwards. He was all right, but um, they don't play. I'm just starting to wonder about this team the whole season. The whole season has been, as you and I know, a bridge between the old dudes and the emerging young guys. Well, Wiseman's not we thought cominga is. I think cominga is effective in the time he's on the floor. He's hyper athletic. But Moody doesn't play at all. So I need to ask you. The trade deadline is next Thursday. I think it's next Thursday. It's coming off now. I think they're gonna move. I think they're gonna move to move Wiseman. He's only twenty one, but he showed nothing. I got to ask, how much do you value the future? Take five years from now. Wiseman could be good. We're winning a title this year. Going back to me, I think I think you have to move off your mistakes. I don't think. My interpretation on the Warriors is when I watched why has been playing with him? He didn't fit. He doesn't fit them. And by the way, there's somebody in the lead that's gonna roll the dice. Could you get he's not making anything yet? Could you get a um, um, what do they need? So here who he goes? So they needed like a rim protector, big guys, a little bit of one experience. The thing I saw floated was Yaka Purdle from the Spurs who are tanking right, Spurs want to get one bin Yama. Purdle's okay, he's not great. Um, I can see him, Purtle, and we will take Wiseman off your hands. So now you get I mean, we don't wise. It could be awesome in four years, we don't know. Yeah, what are you gonna stick around to five? That's a good state. That's a really good That would be a good move because Wiseman Popovitch has done a great job in his career to develop young players, so you give him kurse good at it too. But Steve kerr strength is not developing young players. It's not a criticism of Steve. Steve has got a lot of brain power. He loves taking a guy like Wiggins, highly functional, smart player in the league and making him work in our system. That Warrior's offensive system and defense. The offensive system is sophisticated, it's catch and react. It's hard for those young guys. Kerr is very much to me. Phil Jackson an intellect who is great with veteran players, and they all play their best under Phil. And Steve Popovitch can do that. But I think Popovitch and now I don't have all the players, but his ability to take young players and develop them I think is pretty noteworthy if you go back to the last twenty five years. I mean it makes sense. I just when do you get off an asset that you just don't know if it's improved. Is it time to move on from Wiseman or has he not been given after No? I think Comingo was a hit. Wiseman. By the way, who says Wiseman's not a hit? If I can move him for a functional big and win another title, well that's right. It's not that it's not a failure. If somebody's gonna have to man up. Anthony Davison the playoffs, Lakers are going a Yo kitchen the playoffs, and I guess final note, Collin, even though the Warriors are struggling twenty six and twenty five, do the Grizzly scare you, Do the Nuggs scare you? No? I don't trust the Nuggets, And I like so much about I just don't trust them, don't trust them in a big spot. Same with Philadelphia. I know the talents there, don't quite trust them in a big spot. Jamac with the news. Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by The Herd Live. I'm way along back in a second to Herd. 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That's like New York guy talking about where do you think that was born? Oregon? And then it's Louisville, not Louisville. It's Louisville. I thought it was Louisville now of Louisville, Louisville. That's kind of sound Louisville, Oregon, Nevada. Were you a minor in speech enunciation? I got more degrees than you know what to shake a stick at? Or those two metaphors not make any sense? Okay? Here, by the way, Kyle Shanahan, John Lynch sitting yesterday talking to the media and Jimmy Garoppolo's name came up. There was a question here it is right here. I wish you guys could see Jimmy being back, and if so, what what would that look like? No, I don't see any scenario that I know. We have two starters on our team right now that I believe we can win with um so when you have that situation, you're not that eager to go looking around. I will say, I think you mentioned this yesterday. I think Tampa makes sense to me. Warm Weather Garoppolo didn't have a huge arm, good Weather, good weapons. He knows Brady's offense. He can come into the system, they have, it all works. He'd be the best quarterback in that division today if he went over there. It's a good roster. It's not a great roster. It's not Philadelphia, it's not San Francisco. I don't think it's as good as Cincinnati, but it's a good roster. He would not break the bank. To me, Tampa makes him a lot of sense. Now, you can also tank because you have equity with the fans because you have three straight playoff years, and tank and go get Drake mayor Caleb Williams because Houston's gonna be bad and Arizona could, and they're both gonna have a quarterback for next year's draft. Kyler Murray's gonna you know, he's a truckload of money you have to pay, so you're not bailing on him. And Houston's gonna draft. I would imagine Bryce Young or c J. Stroud or whoever. So you don't have to be the worst team in the league. But you know, if you go to the quarterback store, you'll probably be too good to be a top ten pick. So I think Garoppolo would win the division if nobody else shows up in the current state of the awful NFC South, which is about as bad as any division I've ever seen unless they make major moves. That's why Derek Carter the Panthers make so much sense to me, so warm Weather. Jimmy's arm is not that lively. You're taking over Brady's system mostly, and he's a good locker room guy. You got some veteran quarterbacks. Jimmy's a veteran, He's worked with stars, he's worked with veterans, He's gotten to a Super Bowl. There'd be a lot of buy in with Jimmy Garoppolo. It makes a lot of sense. But I think I do think you get to a point with Tampa. Tampa's gonna move off some guys. You have Todd Bowls. Nobody ever tanks in the NFL. But with a defensive head coach bad at quarterback. What I worry about is you may win some games incidentally in that division with Carolina and the Saints right now, and you know Atlanta. So but to me, Garoppolo works in Tampa, but Caleb Williams and Drake may work way better that. To me, your suggestion I think is pretty solid. Yeah. I would never send Jimmy Garoppolo to Tampa where they're going to be bad next year. I think he could fit with eight New York Jets, franchise a New York Giants Carolina. If they don't get your guy, Derek Carr, Daniel Jones is a giant. They're not moving off him. He won a playoff. If they were smart, they'd move well. But they're they're they're not. Daniel Jones is going to be a giant, I know, but it is Power Hour Next

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So if he went to a bad team with a bad oldline, Bryce Young, that's trouble. So and Stroud and will Levis they're fine. I've come to a point. For years and years, I've always made big predictions on quarterback. Sometimes I've been very right Zach Wilson, sometimes I've been very wrong, Sam Darnold, very right, Baker Mayfield, JaMarcus Russell. I've really come to the point all these years, is I view them now differently. There are ninety percent of the quarterbacks that come out, maybe nine will be as successful as the organization they inherit bad coach, bad line, bad structure, You're screwed. And then there's Andrew Lucke, and there's Trevor Lawrence, and next year I think there's Caleb Williams. Then you get the occasional maybe twice a decade ish outlier, and that may become three or four because quarterback play is getting better and more advanced at an earlier age. The way I look at quarterbacks now is overwhelmingly there's a couple of times a decade again that may be greater. But we watched how good Josh Allen was and how bad he was as a rookie, and how he regressed this year when he didn't have the right coach right, he didn't have Brian Dabele. And that's Josh Allen, that is a mega talent. We watched Trevor Lawrence as a rookie be engulfed in flames. This year he made the playoffs. So coaching matters, structure matters. I think next year you have two guys. I'll watch him again this year. But my gut feeling is they were so good as like sophomores or underclassman, they will succeed. I don't think Justin Fields is good enough. I mean, you can say what you want about the Bears offensive line. Justin Herbert went to the Chargers with the second worst offensive line in the league according to PFF thirty one touchdowns ten. It was an offlow line and a coach that got fired. I mean, Justin Fields, to me, he's just not talented enough to overcome the nonsense in Chicago. And so next year I was saying to Jmack, who, who do we know is gonna be bad next year? You know this this league is hard, but Houston and Arizona look really bad, very bad. Yeah. After that, you could argue about the Colt, you could argue about Chicago. If the Jets don't land a quarterback, watch out a Houston Arizona there's problems. Houston is a multi year rebuild. Arizona. I mean Arizonas even have a coach yet, do they? I don't think they've fired a coach. Kyler Murrie ain't gonna start the season. I don't think he'll be there for You know, if Arizona starts like two and seven without Kyler Murray, what's he coming back for? By the way, if they start two and seven, Kyler, why don't you just sit out? Well, let me toss the team out you real quick. Tom Brady's retired, Tampa Bay is looking at Kyle Trass. Or they could say, hey, let's throw a hail Mary to Derek Carr, bring him in and rejuvenate things. Or hey what if we just tore it down. We said Mike Evans, let's trade him. He's you know, getting up there in age. Make me get a second round pick for Mike Evans. I don't know. Defense is gonna lose like five or six starters, free agent, Why don't we just stink for a year, try to reboot and get a great quarterback. Also, they have a Super Bowl and three playoff years in a row, so they have equity with their fans. You know their fans aren't sitting here starving for wins, so you lose Brady. I think it's a really good point. I think Garoppolo could fit and you'd win games. And I don't think you're Are you coming out of the NFC with Jimmy Garoppolo in Tampa? Remember this is not Tom Brady Tampa coming out of the NFC. No winning the division potentially, Yes, But I think your point is a legitimate one, which is when you have equity with a fan base. And I lived in Tampa for a couple of years. They loved their bucks. They love their bucks. You've had a lot of stability last three years and a lot of wins, playoff wins. I think the fans would be like if you if you hold fans in Tampa, my guess is the smart ones overwhelmingly would be we take tanking and get Kayleb Williams or Drake Man. Those guys are a plus plus talent. You know who doesn't want that? Todd Bowles who just had a bad year. They got destroyed at home in the playoffs, and if they win three games next year, is Bol's coming back? So he's gonna push against He's gonna push back against it, but it is an organization. What's best for the franchise. It's probably being very bad. I don't think you're wrong. And if Houston takes Bryce Young and they're bad, they won't take a quarterback. So even if Atlanta is worse than you, you don't have to have the number one pick because Houston's getting a quarterback this year. Somebody else is drafting CJ. Stroud that's currently bad, they won't. So just because somebody if you have the third worst record, doesn't mean the first two team in Houston is going to take a quarterback. And by the way, so if Arizona is bad, they still have Kyler Murray's contracts now, they won't take a quarterback. Arizona gets very interesting what they do. I will say, I'm quietly rooting for Bryce Young to Detroit. I believe it's six with that offensive mind cops, with that offensive line. Jared Goff is fine. You know, you know what is better than fine? A quarterback on a rookie deal and you can build all around Detroit and that's an NFC potential Philadelphia style in Detroit. I love this idea. Do you see Jared goffs numbers this year? Did you watch him out dual Aaron Rodgers at Lambeau. He lives near me on the beach out here in the can go play volleyball. His dog looks identical to mina golden retriever. All very fascinating. Greg go Sell forty three years NFL Films joins us live anyway, Um, all right, Tom put his feet in the Sandy's retired. When when you go back about defining quarterback characteristics of Tom Brady and you look at film, Um, I mean, this is what you do for a living. What are things when to be the go, you've got to be pretty special at multiple things. What are the defining characteristics you look at when you look at all these quarterbacks and you say, yep, he did that as well as anybody else. He did that as well as anybody else. Well, because I don't get to do what teams do and spend time with players. Let's say, leading up to a draft, I'm looking at it from sitting in my office and watching tea, and I would say that the things that stand out to me about Brady number one, he was precisely accurate. His ball placement was consistently precise, And I think you have to start there because when all's said and done, if you can't throw the ball where you want to, you don't have anything. Number Two, the thing that stood out to me as his career progressed was just how good he was before the ball was snapped. Yeah. We live in an era now, Colin where defenses are far more multiple, far more detailed, are more nuanced than they ever were. And to be a really great quarterback snap after snap, weekend and week out for years and years, you really have to have a great understanding of the game, both with your offense and what defenses are showing you before the snap of the ball. It's too hard to figure this out as you're dropping back because everything is happening so fast. So to me, Tom Brady was an absolute master at knowing what was going on before the ball was snapped. Yeah, and then the ability to repeat. And a lot of people don't talk about this anymore, and some people don't think it's important. Maybe I'm old school column, but I do repetitive mechanics. He threw the ball the same way all the time. I know now with what Patrick Mahomes does, and he's incredibly special. I mean, you know, you know you're not necessarily going to teach a young kid to play like Patrick Mahomes with all those off platform throws and all those kinds of things that he can just do because he's truly special. You teach someone how to do it the right way. And to me, Tom Brady everything was done the right way of the time, repetitive mechanics. He looked the same throwing the ball, his footwork, his base, his upper body, everything was in sync. He delivered the ball the right way all the time. And I think that those things really stand out to me about Brady. But one quick point, you couldn't make the argument that although defenses have changed, and although teams obviously throw the ball far more than they did years ago, he essentially plays the game the way let's say Bart Starr and Bob Greasy played the game forty fifty years sixty years ago. You know, he's not a runaround guy. He drops back and delivers the football. It's just that team, you know, the game, the game has changed around him, and therefore he's had to do other things like be phenomen before the snap, as I mentioned. But for the most part, he plays the game. Like the old school quarterbacks, he also had a good enough arm to make all the throws. But it wasn't correct, but it wasn't great enough that he fell in love with it. A lot of the strong arm quarterbacks, they fall in love with their arm. They don't work as hard. They think there's more farve. He fell in love with his arm. He'd make throws you shouldn't make ill advised. Tom's was always I always said this about Andrew Luck. I was talking to a scout guy, Bunce about this. I said, his arm is good enough, but it's not great enough that he's not going to work really, really hard. And I think Tom I always thought through a great bad weather ball because of his hip turn. I always thought his ball moved. I remember years and years ago he played the game in Chicago and it was white out, it was snowing everywhere, and he threw a ball at the sidelines and it was windy, and I thought, that is a great ball in lousy weather. And so it was always a good enough arm, but not now. For the record, Mahomes has a great arm, and he still was an incredible work ethic. But I do think that can get into trouble now, No, And I agree, and I think you know, people forget that where Brady played his ball cut through the wind in Foxboro with no problem at all. Yeah, you're right. So Sean Payton, this is what he does. I mean, his last year in New Orleans they went nine and eight with Trevor Simeon. No, Michael Thomas Camaro was hurt, Jamis Winston and Taysom Hill. So this is what he does. And they you know, you go look at the last couple of years with Teddy Bridgewater went five and oz with him. This is what he does? What part? Where does Russell Wilson? Because I said the drop off on hitting deep balls was shocking. I always thought he was a great rainbow. It was awful. It was awful. That seems to me to be a priority. When you look at the Russell tape and he was a little better end of the year beginning, where do you see areas he's got to improve. Well, let's let's look at the marriage between the two because I think ultimately Sean Payton in his NFL career, for almost all of it was with Drew Brees. And what kind of quarterback was Breeze Breeze was a precision player. Breeze was not, even though he was a very good athlete, better than people thought, Breeze was not really a second reaction player. Everything was schemed, designed and executed ninety nine percent of the time within structure. That's the way Sean Payton will teach it. So now the question becomes Russell Wilson, who I believe is capable of doing that. But there's a mindset that goes with that. You have to be willing to stay in the pocket late in the down and work through the routes and the progressions. You have to be willing to do that. Breeze was a master at that, and then finding space or finding an angle to deliver the football, given that he was just six feet I think Wilson is capable of that. He hasn't done a lot of that in his career. Normally he moves. Don't forget He's been sacked a ton in his career, Colin, and normally quarterbacks that get sacked a ton a large percentage that falls on them, A meaningful percentage. I don't want to say large, a meaningful percentage. So I think Wilson, in some ways we'll have to adjust his mindset and maybe we'll find out if he can or he can. I think he's physically capable of doing what I suggested, but then you have the mental part, and you know he's played a certain way for a very very long time. So we'll see how that plays out. But this is an offense that will be built on precision and structure, and we know that Russell Wilson at times does not like to play that way. Yeah, I want to go. I thought the story that didn't get discussed was Kansas City's defense against the Bengals. Joe Burroll had his worst game since Week one, coming off that major surgery. And you know, Burroll just did not have a lot of bad Sundays this year. Accurate, situationally excellent, and I thought he was really off. And you know, Kansas City's got some rookies on the back end. You know, this was a game I thought Cincinnati would figure out a way late like they are prone to do, to have a great second half and figure out a way to win. What did Kansas City do defensively to give Burrel a rare off game by his standards. It's funny you say that about Kansas City because one sneed got hurt after four plays in their dime defense with six defensive backs, which they played about twenty five snaps in the game. They were playing with four rookies colin in their dime defense, and that really hasn't been talked about. I mean, you're in an AFC championship game against a great quarterback with three well a boy got hurt, but with you know, quality quality wide receivers and you're playing with four rookies. Now, they played a ton in this game of split safety. Okay, that was their coverage foundation. They play a lot of zone with split safety, and they played a lot of two man coverage, meaning two deep safeties and man underneath. That's a really good coverage against good receivers. And what they did a lot in this game is they bracketed Jamar Chase, So they took Burrow off of Chase, and now you've got to go somewhere else, okay, And that always changes the mindset of a quarterback. Now, obviously Burrow made some really good throws to touchdown to Higgins for twenty seven yards. Came where they actually bracketed Chase, so he did make some plays. But then you also get into the pass rush. This is a team that is predominantly and has been this year, a four man d line pass rush, and they really have good players. Chris Young, Chris Jones is that when everybody thinks about. But you obviously have Frank Clark, Dunlap and Michael Danna, number fifty one is a really good player for the Chiefs. He lines up inside and outside, so they were capable of really wheezing the pocket throughout the game. And they are long, with the exception of Dan and these are long athletes, so you know, they played a certain way and it was very effective. And you know, as I said, they bracketed Chase quite a bit throughout the game. What stood out to you about Patrick Mahomes and his offensive performance. No, I think we spoke about this last week, but I am just so so impressed. I mean, and just his awareness of where people are is mind boggling to me. Is spatial awareness, because I gotta tell you, I've been watching Mahomes going back to his last two years in college when I studied him in detail, and I'll be the first to admit that I had questions about whether he would be a highly successful NFL quarterback because he just moves Colin, he just moves, and he's does that in the NFL too. There are the tape tells you there are many times he moves when there's no reason to move, there's no past rush pressure by NFL standard, and he just moves. But his spatial awareness, his vision that goes along with that is just remarkable. You know. I'm not sure we've seen a guy with those two things at the level of Patrick Mahomes. And of course his arm is sensational on his ability to throw from different angles. And by the way, what I said is no knock on the fact that he can also throw really really well from the pocket. But I think it's just in his DNA to move, and I think that makes it really hard on defense is I remember talking to a coach a couple of years ago who said, when you play against Mahomes, it is really tough because in a sense, you have to have two separate defenses. You have to have one for the first two seconds of a play and then for what happens after two seconds. And that's just really really hard. All right, let's go to Philadelphia nine ers. What can we take away from the Eagles defensive performance because Perdy got hurt in the second quarter. What don't we take away from it? I don't take much away from that at all. We know what the Eagles defense is. We know what they are. They're not going to dramatically changed. You know that game as far as everything changed and when Purdy got hurt, and it's just very hard to really make any comment that means anything besides speculative. We know what the Eagles defense is, so you know that that. To me, there was not a lot there. Okay, so let's talk Jalen hurts then, because I think there is a lot here. There is. I don't I didn't think he threw a touch. I thought some of his underneath routes were low, I mean like down on the shoes. He's obviously hurt. What did the film say? Yeah, I think that since he's come back from injury and he may be hurting far more than we know. I don't think he's played particularly well. Um. I think that he's been out of rhythm on his drop and his set in his delivery. I think he's been playing a little fast mentally and that results in him playing a little fast physically. So what he's been doing, which he did early in his career, you know, in his second season. More so is he breaks down in the pocket when there's no need to break down in the pocket. He's getting rid of the ball before route concepts have a chance to develop. He has not looked like he did earlier in the season, prior to the injury, when he was playing really well. And so what's happening is he's just everything is too It's an interesting combination column. It's fast but yet too deliberate, like he's just not seeing it the way he should see it and then reacting properly. And you know, we'll, obviously next week talk more about the specific matchup against the Chiefs, but Jalen Hurts is going to have to play better than he has in the playoffs, which is an odd thing to say, and people hearing this might say, you don't know what you're talking about, because they won, you know, thirty eight seven and thirty one seven. But if you're just isolating Jalen Hurts and evaluating him, he has not played anywhere near the same level he did earlier in the season. Okay, let's talk about their run game. We'll eventually get to the big play would you give us every week? The run game? What makes up special? You know the thing about their run game, First of all, there's so many potential post snap things that a defense has to deal with. Colin. You know, Hurts is in the gun on almost every play, and there's a more often than not, an offset back, So you've got so many elements to deal with. And as I get to the play, we'll talk about this as well. But you know, you could have four or five different potential plays that could happen from Hurts being in the gun with an offset back, and it just makes it really, really hard to defend. So their run game is really good, they end up getting numbers. They always have the zone read out into their game with Hurts, so there's just so much you have to defend, not only from their play perspective, but how you choose to align, because so much depends on pre snap alignment, because if you get caught with numbers, as they did a number of times the Niners did a number of times in that game, then you're going to get beat. So their run game is really really tough to defend. A big play of the week, then, is it's going to be the Sanders thirteen yard touchdown that put them ahead fourteen seven. And this speaks to just what I was talking about. So let's show the play Collin. This ended a long drive late in the second quarter and it made the game fourteen seven. And this just speaks to what I said. So you're gonna see Jalen Hurts in the gun. Now, Miles Sanders will be offset to his right to the wide side of the field, and then you're gonna get a tight bunch to the same side. So you've got four receivers to the wide side, and then you've got divine to Smith to the other side. Okay, the single receiver. There's five plays that could happen here inside zone zone read RPO, bubble screen, the fade to Smith. So here they just handed it off as on the inside zone. So what do you get? These are the numbers I was talking about. You get three on three to the run side to play side. Every offense will take that. In the run games. Three on three, you see Kelsey on the fall block, come around Greenlaw tries to step inside. Doesn't work. But there's five plays that could have been run here, and the defense gets caught from a numbers perspective. They did not have the numbers they needed to defend the zone run to the weak side of the formation. This is one reason why this run game is so difficult to defend. Forty three years. NFL Films will talk next week and break it all down the Eagles and the Chiefs. Good seeing you, Greg, Thanks con appreciate it. You bet be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays and Noone Easter not a Empacific on Fox Sports Radio FS one and the iHeartRadio app. Is interesting. Greg Kosell talking about the repetitive nature of Brady and you know, Brady, here comes Mahomes into the league and he's thrown sidearm, and you know, Josh Allen's running around. Somebody once told me wealth was boring. Create something great, put it on a conveyor belt, and sell it over and over and over. That's why most artists and creators aren't rich. Wealth can be boring. And Brady the classic. This is my motion. I'm going to repeat it. I'm going to be great pre snap, I'm going to be obsessed with film accuracy. His game. There wasn't a lot of variance to it. You kind of knew what you got. He was going to outstudy you, breakdown film, be great pre snap, and then accurately deliver the ball. It was really simple, almost boring if sports could possibly be boring, and it wasn't with Brady. Jamack with the news. No, No, this is the Herdline News speaking of Brady Colin six Super Bowls in New England and team owner Robert Kraft is confident that no quarterback will ever compare to Tom Brady. It's like he watched the show yesterday. I don't believe in the one hundred year history of the NFL there's been a quarterback of Tom's ilk. I would have trouble ever believing there will be another one. It's Robert Kraft. There will be a lot of different variations of great. But you know, if you look at the generation where Tom won a majority of his Super Bowl as a majority, it was a defense league and you're not allowed to play that level of defense. So I mean it's also Brady was very fortunate that he had he won several early before he made the big money and so and that's really key in this. The difference between seven and four can be you know, Brady took the pay cuts. And by the way, Mahomes has got a very team friendly deal too, although not a pay cut, it's team friendly. But Brady got a lot of these when he wasn't making a lot of money. Now we have a very clear reality in the NFL. If you are a top five quarterback cap hit, you will not win a super Bowl. You will not And so two things happened. Brady got a lot of these trophies when he wasn't making big money, and he had a defense, and you could win an NFL Super Bowl with mostly a great defense, then that's not the way it works now. The second thing is Tom was smart enough to realize winning's the thing, and so I don't need to be the highest paid. But so you're gonna it's gonna take somebody if you want to get to like seven. And because Tom holds every record that matters, I mean, like go to the record book. He virtually holds everything, you're gonna have to find somebody that has two qualities. They're gonna have to win, like Mahomes. They're gonna have to win early before the big money. So if Mahomes won this year, you know he'd have two And now the money's getting gigantic. The second thing is you have to have an individual willing to take less because he really cares about winning. And I just don't think they're Aaron won't, Russell Wilson won't. Most guys won't take less. Wait to say Brady also was able to take less because his wife was a supermodel, but he was worth five million dollars. But Tom took less before Jizelle. People don't ever talk about he did. So Tom oways, well, he was never the highest paid quarterback ever, and he went to Scott Paoli Verry early in his career and said, all take less than the market. This was pretty zella. You gotta spend up to this cap so and this is my only beef with it. Right, So, Jalen Hurts has made a rapid ascension. He's gonna bede a lot of money. The Eagles are probably gonna come to him and say, hey, if you take a little less, you know we'll be able to build a team. Well, are you taking less? The GM are you taking? Is the head coach taking less so they can add to the staff. Why should I be the one to sacrifice. I'm the most important guy here, Like some of these quarterbacks, I think should Joe Burrow. I don't think it's being greedy. Let's not say that. I don't want to get in the guy's pockets. But at some point, Colin, you gotta ask, like, well, should he take less Joe Burrow? Jalen hurts, Yes, they should. Gms don't have a salary cap. Gms don't make millions of dollars in social media and shoe deals, so a general manager should take what he can take a player now, an NFL player, forget basketball. An NFL player can make seven figures easily that never existed in social media, seven figures easily in endorsements that didn't exist. I can remember Donovan McNabb doing a Chunky soup commercial and thinking, oh my, got a national ad for a football player. Basketball players had shoo deals that felt like doctor j but it wasn't. It's not long ago that like obj now created a market of football players making money on shoes. So there's a lot of different ways to make money now that did not exist earlier. Burrow could make seven figures on social he can make seven figures on endorsements. So why do we say this about NFL quarterbacks? And we don't say this about NBA stars. Curry is making fifty mil Lebron is always one of the highest paid in the n But Lebron did not take the most money in Miami. He didn't. Kevin Durant, I believe. I think he took less in Golden State. Kevin Durant took less in Golden State. Rubs me. I mean, I get it, yes, from a t building perspective. Doesn't rub me the wrong way anymore. And I've said this a million times on this show. Do not chase money, chase management. For talented people. There's a sea of money, and if you just take care of yourself, take care of your vocal cords. I can do this for Joe Burrow's gonna be looking at to Sean Watson saying, man, that guy got full Gary. You know what, He's gonna look into Shaun Watson and say, how's it to play for a lousy owner and allousy franchise? Joe Burrows, It's pretty good while he throws on hundred dollar bills out of his pocket. Again, envy, I'm not interested in it. And Tom Brady never envied anybody. But I love I love Russell Wilson and Aaron's talent. They took max money, so Burrow takes less money or Jalen hurts and you don't win the super Bowl and you're like, wait a sa I took less money so you could build a contender and you didn't do your job. I did my job? Then what that sounds like a lot of ego as a quarterback. Joe Burrow's freaking incredible? Is he not? Oh? By the way, start looking at their last several raff They've been pretty incredible they have. They've hit a lot of home runs. Yeah, you could have a defensive coach. You could be you could be justin fields and have a defensive coach in the bad old line. Let's go to Buffalo real quick before we move on. So Josh Allen, he got his money. End of the season, half bro, we didn't get to the suit, we didn't get the conference championship. Don't blame me again, German, are you doing your job? I hear a lot of ego that, don't blame me. That's not what I want from a quarterback. I want Hey, we us together. If money were drive, you're you're we do this as a job. On Monday, morning. It's kind of sort of the blame gig. Whose fault is it that the Buffalo Bills got smacked around at home? I thought it was coaching, okay, so shouldn't there be some kind but but but pressure on mc There's got to be some raimification, doesn't doesn't Don't the Bills get credit for hiring Brian day Ball and saving Josh Allen's wobbly, ineffective career and making him a fortune. They got him Stefon Diggs. They also got him von Miller. Do the Bills not credit? It's not like the bill are poorly run. The Bills are well run. But McDermott I thought got out coached in a playoff game. But Stollington Bills haven't done a great job for Josh Allen. I don't love their online but von Miller Stefan they spent big boy money. Uh dable by the way, Ken Dorsey was the hot coach on the market when they brought Ken Dorsey, and I didn't love what I saw. But Ken Dorsey was an elite seven figure candidate, looked elite. I hear a lot of point game against the Bengals there in the playoffs. Let the elite great. What do you want to beat? Do you want to win games and have one hundred million in the bank or lose games and have one hundred and forty I want it all. I want the money and I want the wins. That's what I want. I want my cake and I want to be able to eat it. Too sound self asking for too much. It sounds selfish. You got one life, man, you gotta get it all. Enjoy it. You can't get it all. Top five quarterback cat pits, no Super Bowls, it doesn't happen anymore. Figure it out. GM your job. Figure it out. I'm doing, but I hold it up my end of the bargain, all right, Next your poor wife, damn you. Cowboys are looking for a new offensive coordinator after Kellamore left, but whoever they hire won't be calling plays. Jerry Jones confirmed Mike McCarthy will be taking over that role. With the success we've had over the last two years, this is the logical step to build on it and use what we've established, or if you will, the foundation of the wins we've got. This is a time for us to build on it. And that's what this is. This is a building step, but it will be in principle the way he operated in Green Bay, which I'm sure he'll tell you evolved. It's gonna have a little duck hunting or something like that. Do you ever played that game on Nindendo Duck Hunt? No? I never have you got a video game? Guy? Huh? I played Asteroids and pac Man Love pac Man, Love Asteroids. And then I turned twelve and Colbo. Know what you need to get is one of those stand up video games for your garage, when you can play pac Man in the garage over hanging out. That's what I need to get. You have a man cave, No, I don't have a man cave. That's what I need to get all the things I need to get a stand up video or you could get a ping pong table. Invite me over and I'll destroy you in pink ball. You know what I need? Have a beer with my buddy tonight, I'm gonna go to a Who are you going? I'm not gonna say, but it's good I getting the invite. Well, we're very busy talking business. You play your video games. Vital story is the Golden State Warriors. Man. These guys just can't extreme they're only planned seven guys. Well, we're gonna get to that. I have that in my note team. Okay, Curry had a good game twenty nine and ten, but had zero points in overtime when they lost the game. Boldens take turned the bowl over nine times in the fourth quarter and overtime snap the three game skid, losing to the Minnesota Timberwolves. Colin I looked at the box score, did not play. Yeah, Moses Moody did not play coming a kind of plays kind of how many minutes? You know why they kept those guys in because they need the wins. No, they only have They only essentially play Um Steph, Clay Wiggans, Dre Looney, Jordan Pool. So that's their six. And then they give cominga at there's the other kid, the guard, the Villanova player, Donzo. Yeah, yeah, they play him. He's been pretty effective. So they go they go seven deep, and then they kind of a little bit play Kuminga but not in key spots. So you're playing seven guys and this is an old team they play are trying to win this game, and they could not stop Naz Reid. And when nas Read gets going, he want watch out. Uh, Anthony Edwards. He was all right, but um, they don't play. I'm just starting to wonder about this team the whole season. The whole season has been, as you and I know, a bridge between the old dudes and the emerging young guys. Well, Wiseman's not we thought cominga is. I think cominga is effective in the time he's on the floor. He's hyper athletic. But Moody doesn't play at all. So I need to ask you. The trade deadline is next Thursday. I think it's next Thursday. It's coming off now. I think they're gonna move. I think they're gonna move to move Wiseman. He's only twenty one, but he showed nothing. I got to ask, how much do you value the future? Take five years from now. Wiseman could be good. We're winning a title this year. Going back to me, I think I think you have to move off your mistakes. I don't think. My interpretation on the Warriors is when I watched why has been playing with him? He didn't fit. He doesn't fit them. And by the way, there's somebody in the lead that's gonna roll the dice. Could you get he's not making anything yet? Could you get a um, um, what do they need? So here who he goes? So they needed like a rim protector, big guys, a little bit of one experience. The thing I saw floated was Yaka Purdle from the Spurs who are tanking right, Spurs want to get one bin Yama. Purdle's okay, he's not great. Um, I can see him, Purtle, and we will take Wiseman off your hands. So now you get I mean, we don't wise. It could be awesome in four years, we don't know. Yeah, what are you gonna stick around to five? That's a good state. That's a really good That would be a good move because Wiseman Popovitch has done a great job in his career to develop young players, so you give him kurse good at it too. But Steve kerr strength is not developing young players. It's not a criticism of Steve. Steve has got a lot of brain power. He loves taking a guy like Wiggins, highly functional, smart player in the league and making him work in our system. That Warrior's offensive system and defense. The offensive system is sophisticated, it's catch and react. It's hard for those young guys. Kerr is very much to me. Phil Jackson an intellect who is great with veteran players, and they all play their best under Phil. And Steve Popovitch can do that. But I think Popovitch and now I don't have all the players, but his ability to take young players and develop them I think is pretty noteworthy if you go back to the last twenty five years. I mean it makes sense. I just when do you get off an asset that you just don't know if it's improved. Is it time to move on from Wiseman or has he not been given after No? I think Comingo was a hit. Wiseman. By the way, who says Wiseman's not a hit? If I can move him for a functional big and win another title, well that's right. It's not that it's not a failure. If somebody's gonna have to man up. Anthony Davison the playoffs, Lakers are going a Yo kitchen the playoffs, and I guess final note, Collin, even though the Warriors are struggling twenty six and twenty five, do the Grizzly scare you, Do the Nuggs scare you? No? I don't trust the Nuggets, And I like so much about I just don't trust them, don't trust them in a big spot. Same with Philadelphia. I know the talents there, don't quite trust them in a big spot. Jamac with the news. Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by The Herd Live. I'm way along back in a second to Herd. 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That's like New York guy talking about where do you think that was born? Oregon? And then it's Louisville, not Louisville. It's Louisville. I thought it was Louisville now of Louisville, Louisville. That's kind of sound Louisville, Oregon, Nevada. Were you a minor in speech enunciation? I got more degrees than you know what to shake a stick at? Or those two metaphors not make any sense? Okay? Here, by the way, Kyle Shanahan, John Lynch sitting yesterday talking to the media and Jimmy Garoppolo's name came up. There was a question here it is right here. I wish you guys could see Jimmy being back, and if so, what what would that look like? No, I don't see any scenario that I know. We have two starters on our team right now that I believe we can win with um so when you have that situation, you're not that eager to go looking around. I will say, I think you mentioned this yesterday. I think Tampa makes sense to me. Warm Weather Garoppolo didn't have a huge arm, good Weather, good weapons. He knows Brady's offense. He can come into the system, they have, it all works. He'd be the best quarterback in that division today if he went over there. It's a good roster. It's not a great roster. It's not Philadelphia, it's not San Francisco. I don't think it's as good as Cincinnati, but it's a good roster. He would not break the bank. To me, Tampa makes him a lot of sense. Now, you can also tank because you have equity with the fans because you have three straight playoff years, and tank and go get Drake mayor Caleb Williams because Houston's gonna be bad and Arizona could, and they're both gonna have a quarterback for next year's draft. Kyler Murray's gonna you know, he's a truckload of money you have to pay, so you're not bailing on him. And Houston's gonna draft. I would imagine Bryce Young or c J. Stroud or whoever. So you don't have to be the worst team in the league. But you know, if you go to the quarterback store, you'll probably be too good to be a top ten pick. So I think Garoppolo would win the division if nobody else shows up in the current state of the awful NFC South, which is about as bad as any division I've ever seen unless they make major moves. That's why Derek Carter the Panthers make so much sense to me, so warm Weather. Jimmy's arm is not that lively. You're taking over Brady's system mostly, and he's a good locker room guy. You got some veteran quarterbacks. Jimmy's a veteran, He's worked with stars, he's worked with veterans, He's gotten to a Super Bowl. There'd be a lot of buy in with Jimmy Garoppolo. It makes a lot of sense. But I think I do think you get to a point with Tampa. Tampa's gonna move off some guys. You have Todd Bowls. Nobody ever tanks in the NFL. But with a defensive head coach bad at quarterback. What I worry about is you may win some games incidentally in that division with Carolina and the Saints right now, and you know Atlanta. So but to me, Garoppolo works in Tampa, but Caleb Williams and Drake may work way better that. To me, your suggestion I think is pretty solid. Yeah. I would never send Jimmy Garoppolo to Tampa where they're going to be bad next year. I think he could fit with eight New York Jets, franchise a New York Giants Carolina. If they don't get your guy, Derek Carr, Daniel Jones is a giant. They're not moving off him. He won a playoff. If they were smart, they'd move well. But they're they're they're not. Daniel Jones is going to be a giant, I know, but it is Power Hour Next