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We go at Doward two live in La Wednesday, Game two, Tonight Heat and the Nuggets in Miami. It's The Herd wherever you may be and however you may be listening. Thanks for making us part of your day. It is so interesting to me. It's such a cross section of comments on the Live golf and the PGA now merging under an investment fund run by the Saudi A Radio and it just cracks me up on this, folks. There's so many fakes out there, so many frauds, so many social justice warriors. Every bud he's got a price. You have a price, just admit it. Everybody's got a price. If somebody walked up to you today, you don't have to love everything about a company and somebody said here's twenty million bucks, you'd take it. You'd rationalize it. I see this all the time. I saw this during the presidential election, where the evangelical Christians who are conservatives rationalized Trump's awful behavior with women. They just rationalized it. Why because they're conservatives and didn't want to vote for a liberal, so they rationalized Trump and really bad behavior. There's a lot of good conservatives out there who aren't narcissists and don't have four hundred lawsuits and treat women with respect. Trump's not one of them. And you rationalized it. And that wasn't even for money. It was for a vote. So stop pretending you wouldn't take the money. Somebody offered you two hundred million. I said this yesterday. I was offered a live golf came to one of the properties I were with, and there was going to be one hundred thousand dollars worth of advertising, of which I would have gotten a big chunk of it. And they also invited me to go to tournaments. And I said thank you, but no, thank you, and I just said I'm not going to take it. But if it was ten million dollars, my wife would have looked at me and said, we need to have a discussion. It's ten million dollars. You can retire seven years earlier. Yeah, I would have had a discussion. You think I'm gonna set up here in light to you? Of course, the number mattered. Numbers matter all the time. We all make decisions. We all rationalize stuff based on a price or a number, or what it does for our kids, our families. That's why I never on this radio dial. One of the things I've done over the years is gotten, you know, less preachy. I think it was too preachy in my twenties and thirties. Life's gray. We all make decisions, we all rationalize votes and trips and who we support based on the money. How does it benefit us, How does it benefit our taxes. There's a lot of things that my conservative friends do not like about Republicans, but they generally are lighter on taxes, so they rationalize it. All right, I don't pay your taxes, but don't pretend you don't have a price. Okay, everybody does. And that's why this morning the Rory mcelroys have a little egg on their face. But he's a man enough to acknowledge it's probably better for golf.
When I try to remove myself from the situation and I look at the bigger picture, and I look at ten years down the line. You know, I think ultimately this is going to be It's going to be good for the game of professional golf. I think it secures the unifies it on its secures its financial future.
You know, some of your favorite golfers ever, the old heads, the old guys that you watched in the sixties and seventies and eighties, they were taking money from scrupulous characters, companies that you didn't have alignment with. It didn't matter, it didn't matter, nobody cared. So your TikTok made by China, authoritarian government, bad human rights record. NBA, by the way, is in bed with China. Remember all that kerfuffle, Remember all that stuff that Adam Silver and Lebron went through with China. NBA looks the other way on China. You watch the NBA, You love the NBA. Are you bothered by their relationship with China? Not enough not to watch? Not enough not to watch your iPhone where they make that. You're on Twitter today? You know the Saudis have a big chunk of Twitter. Our government when I hear, well, well, these golfers. Phil Micholson didn't care about nine to eleven. Well, then our government didn't because their second biggest trade partner is Saudi Arabia. So spare me on the morals and the values and the preachiness. Is it so one point everybody validates their life decisions, and the people that scream the loudest and lecture the most and are the most preachy, you can go to the You can go to the Catholic Church. I was just watching a movie for about the fifteenth time a few nights ago, Spotlight. It's one of the great movies of all time, one of the great movies, one of the best written movies I've ever seen in my life. You start looking at our churches, our corporations, our government, our owners of our sports teams. You don't know what you don't know. Be very careful about lecturing others on taking two hundred million dollars, which all of us I've said before. I was offered this no thanks. You know, if somebody would have multiplied it by fifty, I probably would have said thanks. I probably would have felt some responsibility to my family. I would have validated the decision by me.
Yeah, you think Roy McElroy talked to his family before saying no to over one hundred million dollars.
You know, do you know I read it yesterday. I don't know if it's accurate. Tiger was offered like eight hundred million. Now, Tiger, of course is worth a billion or a lot, so he turned it down.
But this is more than generational. Well, one hundred million dollars for Roy McElroy is the next five generations are going to eat for you.
Well depends if you live in California. The government takes.
Half, so whatever. Fine, fine, one hundred million dollars becomes fifty million dollars. Oh yeah, come on.
But I see this all the time. It is well, you're just selling out, you know, I hear this all the time when a band goes big. Oh they sold out, Yes, all their shows, they sold out the Rose Bowl and Sofi Stadium. And when opportunities present themselves, all of us in America rationalize our decisions if we're a little uncomfortable with it.
Remember when I sold the website, people said you sold out.
Yes, you're different.
Now you're owned by USA today. Come on, you're not the small, cool hip website that you once were. You're sold out.
You're one of the only bloggers whoever did it right. You built it, sold it quick, got out and built it and have a beautiful family and a beautiful house because you knew it wasn't a thirty year business. Ninety percent of those bloggers now disappeared into the ether. Irrelevant, I would say ninety eight percent completely irrelevant. You built it, sold it, got out, understood the timing of the market. There's nothing about it. You can't listen to the virtue signalers out there. Everybody's just you know, you go to all these social media follower of Christ and they're the rudest people on the internet. It's like, give me a break. Okay.
Just remember a lot of these media members bashing the PGA. They've never run a business. They have no idea what's going on behind the scenes. We don't know the finances of the PGA. Maybe are they in dire straits? Do we have that BikeE knunk?
Yesterday? Alan Shipnuk get that bite again. Yesterday was a moment of clarity for me. Alan Shipnuk, who, by the way, again, this is a guy that covers it professionally for all the pearl clutchers said this yesterday.
The European PGA Tour would have gone out of business a long time ago if it was not hosting its biggest money events in Saudi Arabia, Qatar, United Arab Emirates, Turkey, China, that tourist state in business in these playing in these these places with autocratic governments. And it's always been a factor in the sports world. I mean you mentioned the EPL. I mean half of those teams in the English Premier League are now owned by Saudi Arabia or other Middle Eastern interests. And uh so it always felt a little hollow and a little sanctimonious. Now the tour's biggest sponsors, Coca Cola, FedEx, Morgan Stanley, they all do business in Saudi Arabia. They have for a long time. So the lines got very blurry.
Yes, no reasonable person would deny what he just said. The lines have gotten very blurry. L I V was succeeding, but needed to be on television. You're not a legitimate sport unless you have a TV contract. You got to be on Fox, you got to be on CBS, you got to be on a Big Dog. You got to be on television. I mean, that's why women's basketball is one of the fastest. It may be the fastest growing sport in the country. During March Madness, you had a young lady played for Iowa. Why is women's basketball growing. It's not the attendance, it's their television ratings. They're more viable on television. Therefore, women's basketball is growing. We're not counting seats for college basketball games in the Big Ten. Women's basketball is growing because the ratings are growing. And liv had a hole in their business. We don't really have a legitimate business partner. Golf had a hole in their business. They're running out of money. They were having now to pay a little bit more money. Right, they were under the microscope a little bit. You had two major sponsors pull out and they're like, you know what we need. We need brooks Kempka back. I don't think it took coincidence. When brooks Keptka wins the PGA champion, you look at those ratings and you're like, we need him back on our tour. We need Phil Mickelson back on our tour. So you had two entities that both had a hole. The PGA tour had a lot of Scotti. Scheffler's Great Golfer but if you're a casual, which most golf fans are, he didn't get you to.
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By the way, speaking of fans that rationalize things and why I've defended the live golfers from the beginning, I don't have to agree with them, but people rationalize their choices who they vote for. The Cleveland Brown fans, Deshaun Watson's behavior is despicable and grotesque, especially if you have a wife, or a daughter or a sister. It's grotesque. Y'all got over it really quickly, didn't you, Because you want to win more football games, and Baker Mayfield wasn't good enough. See, you rationalize it. We do this all the time. Your favorite athlete, your favorite politician. You rationalize the decision because it's good for your team, it's good for your wallet, it's good for your taxes. All I'm saying is I get it. I'm not gonna be sanctimonious and preachy. I get it. Everybody's got a price, And I thought the golf Jay Monaghan was completely inappropriate in bringing up nine eleven on Saudi Arabia, when when golf the European Tour has had connections European golfers, the Shell Oil Golf Tournament in this country, the biggest sponsors of the PGA do business with the Middle East. Give me a break on that stuff. Ryan Rosseilla my Buddy podcast hosted The Ring. By the way, you and I don't think you and I have talked about that, but I know it's a very serious subject. But my takeaway on this stuff is I think I was too preachy as a talk show host in my twenties and thirties. I was too preachy. And I think once I had kids, I've realized, I don't know, squat, life's become very gray. I don't have to agree with every decision you or I make, but you make it for your taxes and your life and your family. I mean, well, I have a family. You know, you have your guys. So you tell me, what was your takeaway on what happened yesterday?
I was I wasn't even remotely surprised, you know.
I look, I'm very aligned with you on you know, if you're going to be somebody who is gonna knock everybody else for some kind of connection, then you better have all of your stuff buttoned up and that you're never ever going to expose yourself to being hypocrite later on, Like if you want to be really preachy and okay, go ahead and do it, but I guarantee I can find something that makes you really inconsistent with the stuff that you're saying publicly.
So I you know, I really like it was just it was.
It was one of those things at the beginning where it's like, wait a minute, so your prolive goolf so that means dot dot dot.
You're like, no, that's not what I said. That's not what I said.
What I'm saying is is that it seems to be that business trumps everything and it happened again, and to act like it's any like, to act like this is some surprise, and then what you're gonna do your ten minutes on it. You're gonna say bad things are bad? Okay, cool, you win, awesome monologue. I'm not even talking about you. You know, like, oh, bad things are bad? All right, awesome? What's the B block? So I don't really look at this thing. I wasn't remotely surprised that this is what happened at the end, because this is what always happens. And that's why when it happened in the beginning, I didn't really have some aggressive take about it because I felt like, this is so predictable and it's exactly what we all thought.
So you came out. It's interesting. On the John Morant situation, we were talking this morning and I said, it's actually worse that his camp now said it's a toy gun, and I'm like, wait time out. So now you're just joking about this situ Like now, if I was a parent and I grounded my kid and they mocked me and left about it, I'd be more upset. But your takeaway is I think a valid one that you think, by and large, fans get crazy on suspensions, and Jahn Morant falls into that.
Yeah, we are punishment obsessed. I mean there's there's some correlation a thing that we just talked about, right, you know. I remember like every time somebody got busted for weed, the first thing you would do is be like, Okay, well this guy gets busted for weed, and the Ray Rice suspension was only this and you're like, okay, but but this is what the NFL is allowed to do with the ray Rice situation, and this is what they did. And then ultimately, by the way, ray Rice didn't play again. So the suspension that everybody wanted for ray Rice, like, you got it.
It may have not been in the memo, but you got it. You got that suspension.
And so anybody that suggests like, well, like, how do you debate some of these awful things that happened in and go, yeah, if that feels like six games, ooh, that's a little nast year, maybe it's nine. Because everybody's afraid to be like, okay, this bad thing happened. Is what's what's the right number of games for somebody to be suspended? And I always feel like there's there's a there's a line of like how far you can be suspended where I'm like, okay, that seems high. So what jaw as dumb as this stuff keeps keeps happening that that's happening, Like if it's half the season, Colin, that's that's insane to me. But nobody would want to say like, well, I think I think twenty games is too long, And you're like, wait, So that means you think what Jah's been doing is good.
No, it doesn't. Like I think everything he's done.
Is impossibly stupid here and there's probably more that we don't even know about. But the way this was teased by the NBA and Silver being like, hey, this time around, and then the way it gets talked about in our circles of like could it be a season?
Could it be a season? Like are you kidding?
But I think some of us that are on the other side of not even uh not having punishment handed out, like none of us want to seem light on it to then seem like we're okay with the acts that led to the punishment in the first place.
Right, So I remember during the Boston Miami series, I said, it just seems like I remember my take was, it feels like Boston has way more good players, but Spoe will win two games. So it's a six game series. Is going to just steal two wins? Well, it was probably three. But then I started thinking as I watched them, have I overvalued Boston's talent and undervalued Miami? So let me ask you for a guy that watches more basketball than anybody I know that doesn't work in the league. Is Miami just more talented than any of us want to admit?
No, you know, I know it's we have a really hard time when there are results and you're like, oh, well, this happens. So that means that all this stuff happened. Okay, if you took Miami's roster and Boss's roster and handed it out in dispersal draft, like you wouldn't all of a sudden be taking more Miami players than Boston players. And that really speaks to one how prepared Miami is. They're smarter than everybody, They're tougher than everybody. You know, Butler has wired a certain way that you want him closing your games. But some weird stuff has happened along the way. Caleb Martin scored more points in the Eastern Conference finals than any undrafted player has ever scored in the finals or conference finals since the modern draft. Going back to nineteen sixty seven, Miami had a negative point differential in the regular season. The last team to make it to the NBA Finals with that step was I think the nineteen fifty nine Minneapolis Lakers.
All Right, they have a.
Negative point differential through the first three quarters of all of their quarters so far in the playoffs, but are.
Like plus ninety in the fourth.
Yeah, So what happens is is the rules for what we do are like, wait, they keep beating everybody. That means that means that they're actually way more talented. Yeah, yeah, Like clearly Caleb Martin has something to him at times, and then Gave Vinson picks him up. Then Max Shrews hits a million shots. We all like Bam, we like Jimmy. But they've lost like two rotation guys throughout this and they're mixing and matching it and they're still here where they're tied in the NBA finals. So I like to look at it this way. It's okay to suggest that this is really special. Yeah, okay, but it can't be both special and almost unprecedented in my NBA watching career. If they pull this off, if they pull this off and even getting to this point, it can't be special but also to be expected, because if it were expected, that it wouldn't be special.
And that's what this is right now.
If they pull this off, Colin, I think it's the most unlikely title run of the forty years that I've been watching.
This fort.
Yeah, the Frank Vogel got a job with the Suns. It didn't bother me because I think he's good with Biggs and they got to figure out DeAndre Ayton, and I think he'll probably be good for the room. He's not a confrontational guy. Something was wrong with the culture and money and eight and I like money, but it just wasn't working. What do you make of the people that go, oh, here's another read tread, here's his fourth job. What do you make of that?
Uh?
Coaching hires are a lot like relationships, right, whatever you did or didn't have in the past, you know, you're thinking about the next one. Like you always used to tell me about your dating life, and you were like, you know, like she doesn't respect me.
I need somebody who's gonna respect me in the future.
That was like, well, look, some of your takes are spicy, and you know, if you're going to bring this home, if you're going to bring the work home with the takes, yeah, you know. Anyways, but you're happy now and everything's good. I try to be happier for you as a friend. Extreme close up on the shot today. I'm noticing, by the way, anyway, when you have a new coach who doesn't have experience before, it's almost like a lock. You're going to go back to the coach that has experience. And what we had in the twenty two to twenty one cycles, we had seven head coaches I believe that were hired that had no previous head coaching experience. So the cool thing going back to the summer of twenty one in a couple highers in twenty two where Okay, who's the long term assistant who's never gotten his shot, who's the new young assistant that everybody thinks is awesome that we're gonna give him his shot? And I think the counter to that, again, you don't. I don't think people understand how quickly these guys are fired. You really, Taylor Jenkins has the fifth longest tenure in the NBA as a head coach and.
He was hired four years ago. Okay, that's nuts.
So all of these guys are getting fired no matter what anyway, So it doesn't really matter. But I think what we're seeing, even if you want to go specific to like Quinn Snyder left Utah, there are a bunch of places that wont and he be the head coach, Vogel should have never been fired. I'm happy Darvin Ham finally got his chance. But the idea that any of the Westbrook stuff was his Vogel's fault. Remember that old that old tale being told we'd be like, oh, yeah, now that Vogel's gone, he'll figure Westbrook out.
Now.
That was so. Vogel never should have been fired in the first place. And Nurse, even though it feels like it ran its course in Toronto, I'm telling you, the list is not very long of guys ahead of him. That when other teams are talking about like looking at special things that teams do well that Nurse teams did in Toronto, and the way he would prep his team up for certain matchups, they were like, Nurse is like head of the class when it.
Comes to that.
So it feel it can feel a little retready ish, but really, I think what we're doing is we're entering a new cycle of teams going you know what, Actually, let me just bring in somebody who has a lot of experience and nurse. You know, I think the job itself, it's just hard to have this job a long time, even if you're doing a good job.
All right, Buddy, good seeing you. Maybe I should make my way down to the beach and hang out with you. A couple couple beers coming up soon, all right, return my texts.
Well, I don't know when the sun comes out. I'll let you know right.
Appreciate it, buddy, Ryan Risillo, see it all right? Yeah, so the not you know, Darvin Ham, I thought that a really good job. He got criticized. But we were talking about this this morning. It's Frank vogel'sport with job. You would never do that in the NFL. But you would never fire guys in the NFL like you fire him in the NBA. So that's why it feels like some of these guys, you know, are retreads. The vocals should have never been fired by the Lakers. You've heard of c oh my bad. Jmack with the News.
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I told you I saw a Risillo at my gym, and you know, I like to think I work out a lot of a.
Huge j cut.
He's just massive guy, looks like an NFL linebacker. Yeah, he lives a lot. Yeah, I'm worth trying to get cut, you know, show muscles for the beach and he just a mountain of a man. What are you start working out.
One of these days? Last night had a big bowl of Big Bull ice cream.
So Monday night drinking with Bucher last night ice cream. You're slacking post Iceland, huh, and.
Be honest with you so great. I went to bet happy. You didn't. You went to bed with sore abs. I went to better happy with ice.
Crea sore abs.
That betting early last night. It'll be a late night tonight because this game three of the Finals U Series Title one, there's a big one. Michael Malone expects Denver to show more discipline after pretty bad defensive showing seventeen clips he showed his team of really terrible defensive rotations. Malone talked about how the Nuggets can improve heading into gate three.
Every clip is a discipline clip, if you will, where a discipline, whether it was game plan, whether it's personnel, whether it's defending without fouling, whatever may be. Seventeen clips added up to over forty points in game two.
Wow, and that to me is staggering.
So what we can do better is just be a lot more discipline in terms of the game plan, who I'm guarding, and most of that stems from communication, and we had way too many examples for an NBA Finals game where we have guys not on the same page because of a lack of communication.
Forty points on bad defense. I will say this, you leave guys open in the NBA most of the time.
I'm even a wretched three point shooting team like the Heat who were twenty seventh in the league this year, and all of a sudden they can hit, and all of a sudden they can make every shot.
Yeah, and Tyler Heroes not playing so well.
Tyler hero officially out for this one. Maybe they're thinking, hey, game four, if we need him, he'll be back and provide some punch off the bench. I think the guy that watched tonight is Jamal Murray. Right, Is Jimmy Butler gonna chase him around? Is Jamal Murray gonna force stuff to get in the offense?
Well, you know, you forget that outside of the first five minutes of that game. From that point until the fourth, midway through the fourth, I felt like Denver was the better team. Denver melted in the fourth was about eight minutes to go. They just started playing poorly. But remember it was like ten to two run, Miami took a lead, and then Denver kind of settled down and controlled the next two and a half quarters.
I think the heat trail by eight going into the fourth quarter. Yeah, and then Dugget Robinson, who had not scored erupts because of bad lazy defense. See, I'm kind of with you. I think Denver tonight, is there any player props you to attack? Who do you think that's a good game?
Well, what I think happens is I would take an under on like a Jimmy Butler, and I think guys like Jamal Murray, Gordon Porter have better nights. I think they're gonna try to move the ball better, Denver is because that's what they do well, you know, spacing, moved the ball and try to get Michael Porter a little more involved offensively. He fell asleep.
Tyler Herro. By the way, I just have it in my notes here. He's making thirty million dollars a year, thirty million dollars on your bench, and you're still hanging tough beating the Celtics. Pretty incredible stuff for Miami. Next up, everybody's favorite team, the New York Jets. Aaron Rodgers. Time to talk about him? Colin the media caught up with linebacker CJ. Moseley yesterday. Mosey, of course, the former Baltimore Raven. He said their June practices feel like real games because they have a real quarterback under center.
It's a different vibe. No, he seys the bar. He sets the expectation with his resume, with his name. You know, the way he approaches the game every single day. So as soon as he got here, you can see it. You know, he has so much attention to detail. Where he's looking at well, I want to get things away. He has a lot of attention to details. That's all I want to say. And it's and it's helping our offense and it's helping our defense every single day.
You know, I love CJ. Moseley, But he has struggled to stay on the field, hasn't.
He He has had some injuries, but he was good last year. I think he very jack player. Yeah, very solid, solid linebacker. Yeah. This is gonna come down to Rogers protection. And you know, we haven't heard a lot about Makai Beckton, Dwayne Brown his left tackle situation. Jet's trying to sweep that under the rug and figure it out. Quentinn Williams obviously looking to get paid. But a lot of good Jets stuff coming up. Because I know you like talking about Aaron Rodgers.
I do. I think it's interested.
Yeah.
Final story is Josh Allen a little less interesting. He's yet to get a Super Bowl ring, but one of his childhood gay dreams came to fruition today. EA Sports announced Josh Allen will grace the cover of Madden twenty four this season. Guys like Tom Brady, Patrick Mahomes, Lamar Jackson recent stars to earn that honor. I don't know. Was there a Madden curse? Wasn't that like a thing once?
I've never played it?
You've never played Madden.
I don't play video games. I've kind of played.
Band of playing video games, but I would like to if I had the chance.
They're funny. I just I haven't played a video game in forty years.
I played.
I used to work at a bowling alley. Whoa and when I was a kid, job and I set pins And I worked at a bowling alley. Behind the desk gave out shoes and there was a you'd have to pay. My mom would give me like three bucks and change every time I went to work, and I would you know, this is like young when I was like sixteen, seventeen eighteen, and I would play what's that Atari game? When you're shooting? Yeah, so that's the last video game. And I should say I did play some pac Man of course.
Come on, I got to ask you nothing. You got me talking about bowling? Sorry, Josh Allen. Are you good at bowling?
Yeah?
Pretty good.
We have a bowling contest.
I I don't like it that much.
Oh you would just go head to head, you know, for fun.
Does everything have to be a competition, Yes, of course it does. Come on bowling.
You know, back in the day, it was a bowling contest here at FS one among the shows.
Who won?
I do have a trophy at home, a small, small trophy.
Are you proud of it?
I love winning. I'm good at bowling. I'm a natural athlete, you know, ping pong, bowling.
People love to hear that.
Tennis very humble as well.
J Mack with the news.
Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the herd Line News.
I don't know what my wife would do if she walked in and I was playing video games. She would tell me to grow up.
I can tell you what wives might say if that happens.
But why did you stop playing?
Would you want to take a guess your wife said grow up something like that. Yeah, she's not watching, so I can say that she said grow up. But I know relatives are watching and they're like, dang jay, why I mean, not out there? You listen, I know, listen. Sometimes you want to unwind, right, what are you going to? I'm not like drinking, you know, I'm not like out boozing it up with like you are with all your sources. So I think video games are a great way to unwind. I own a soccer team, so I play some FIFA.
Well now I'm supposed to be of all the video games. They say FIFA soccer is the best by far.
Then you start a franchising the NBA, play your son. It's like good bonding, you know, stuff like that.
It's fun, not trying to be judgy.
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So years ago, I am one of those people that I hear this loyalty thing all the time, and people banged on the golfers that left they weren't loyal to the PGA. But here's how I kind of look beyond just golf as I look at loyalty. So years this is a ridiculous story, But years and years ago, I was sitting with a guy. It was a nice man. He was a radio guy, and I was in Portland, Oregon, and I was offered to go somewhere else, and he just went on and on about loyalty. And he's a very funny guy. Loyalty and you're part of a team, and he really got me thinking. It was like Friday afternoon, Sunday night, I get a call. He took a job in Boston. What happened to the loyalty thing? My takeaway is Lebron James, why should he have been loyal to Cleveland? They couldn't get him a second good player. He went to Miami. Why should he be loyal to Miami? The team got old? Then he went to Cleveland a second time. Why should he stay? It's Cleveland? He went to Los Angeles. Los Angeles is the biggest economy in the country by a stretch, seventh eighth, ninth biggest, I think in the world, California economy. This idea about loyalty, you know, Chris Rock, the comedian said it best. A man is as loyal as his options. So the reality is the PGA sanctimoniously lectured golfers on loyalty and six months later took a paycheck. So Kevin Durant was supposed to be loyal to Oklahoma City. They were coddling Russell Westbrook. They traded away hard and got a bag of peanut brittle form. They got nothing for him. So loyal to what the GM. Sam Presty's a nice guy, but they didn't do a good job in that situation. What do you want guys to be loyal? Damian Lillard is one of my favorite NBA players. I would argue loyalty's hurt him. He's never playing in May and June. Damian Lillard would be much better served to be on my television tonight. It'd be better for his business. Now, I'm not criticizing him for being loyal, but what I'm saying is I could argue it's it's not always been the greatest. Bradley Beal at Washington. Bradley Beal's a terrific NBA player. I've been on this thing for seven years. I love Bradley Beal. He's never playing late, He's invisible. He would have been. He could have a much bigger shoe deal, a much bigger social revenue stream if he decided. Now, that may not matter to him. I totally respect that, but I see this all the time. When it failed complain about the name image likeness and the transfer portal, and these coaches they don't like all these players transferring. Are you kidding me? These coaches are taking better jobs every fifteen minutes. And I don't blame the coaches, because athletic directors are under enormous pressure. At Notre Dame, at Texas, at Clemson, at USC the boosters are all over the athletic director. The athletic director have to make big decisions. Lane Kiffen once got fired after a loss in an airport parking garage. It's the reality of the business. But what confounds me are these people out there, these that look down at people who take opportunities. Have you noticed something about people that quote aren't loyal? They're often the most talented people, meaning they get they get a call, they're agent calls, the company calls I've had. I worked at another company before this one, and I and I feel great loyalty to where I work now. I really like my bosses and my radio bosses, my TV bosses. I really have great affection for them. I think they're excellent. They've supported me. But I was at a company and I left that company, and I remember people rolling their eyes and that company is let go of over five six seven hundred people, many most hard working, decent people. Where's the loyalty? I moved because the company didn't have a plan for me. I didn't think I was disloyal. I just didn't think they had a plan. It wasn't my responsibility for my managers to get how I'm talented. I thought I was. Maybe I'm delusional, but the point being, I don't get the people who criticize those who take opportunities. I just think those people have never been given opportunities. We talked about this earlier. These college kids that go to universities, college basketball, college football, men and women, and then they go there and they're often you know, a lot of these coaches in college are salespeople. They're great salespeople. It's almost biblical sounding. They're like preachers. And then the kid get on campus and realize they've said that to the same other nine wide receivers they brought into camp, and they're sitting there thinking I'm never gonna play. Is that disloyal for leaving and saying I want to pack my bags and go to the school down the street because they're gonna play me. So I am very consistent on this. I am pro be opportunistic, I am pro try to see around corners. I am pro Now I'm very very fortunate. I like where I'm at. I feel supported. But when I didn't earlier locally or nationally, I moved, I didn't think I lacked anything. I thought I tested the waters and sniffed around and felt around, and thought, they're not gonna support me the way I think I need to be supported. So, I mean, you and I talk about this off the air all the time. There's this small maybe it's a small group of people that just cling to this loyalty thing, and it just folks. Things change all the time, a meteor could hit the planet to.
It's one of those old fashioned values that people really cling to. You gotta be loyal to the company. But the problem is a lot.
You know.
I have a buddy who is kind of in the media industry, and he had been loyal to this company for a long time. Layoffs came around. He got the acts, and he said it was one of those jarring experiences where he realized they don't really care about you. I know, you'd like to think I've been here forever. I'm gonna get the gold Watch at twenty five years or whatever. They just they don't really care about you. You've got to look out for number one. And that's why from the jump, I've defended that Kevin Durant move from OKC to Golden State back in twenty sixteen. I'll defend any NBA player leaving. I defended Lebron leaving Cleveland. Lebron asks for help as he sees the Celtics loading up member back in two thousand and seven, the Orlando Magic got Dwight Howard help, and you know, Lebron asked for help, and they get him like Antoine Jamison, who's like thirty four, like thirty five year old shack And it's like, I'm sorry, I gotta look out for number one. And I know people think that's selfish, Colin, but you know what, you nobody else is looking out for you, because they aren't. The companies not looking out for you, they're not. You gotta look out for yourself. I'm with you on.
This, Yeah, I mean I just see it all over sports. I mean, look at the NBA. Frank Vogel won a championship with the Lakers and they fired him because he couldn't make that Westbrook thing work. Well either could Darvin Ham and you love him and they got rid of him. So basically Lebron's can't want it Westbrook. That's fine. Russell plays very hard, but Vogel wins a title and they get rid of him. Ed Orgeron wins a championship at LSU two years later, he's got a work. Gene Chiswick wanted a championship at Auburn two years later, I think two, maybe three. He's got to work. So you want these coaches to be loyal and these players to be loyal, and these stars to be loyal. Why, I mean, look at how good Zeke was for the Cowboys the minute Tony Pollard pops boom. See you, by the way, I would have done the same thing. So that that's not saying that organizations and companies don't care about him employees. I am not insinuating that. But Phil Mickelson complain for a decade. He's like, shouldn't I be paid to come to these events? When I win these events and I'm playing on Sunday, I see the television ratings, Why don't I get any part of that? We're all independent contractors. Why don't I get any any part of that? Why isn't there a fee for me to show up by the PGA? So you know, that's why I've defended these guys. It's not like Phil was the happiest guy in the world and was treated just beautifully by the PGA. There's a reason a lot of these guys left. Do you think they all lack morals? Know what they lack was appreciation by the tour to understand the value of Brooks Koepka and the value of Phil Mickelson. And you know, I feel very supported, but there are a lot of people out there in pro sports they leave because they don't feel supported. And by the way, companies make bets, governments make bets, tours, TV networks makes bets on people, and oftentimes they won't bet on you. So if you want to go, go.
Loyalty is a function of appreciation. A quote I just found on the internet, And you gotta wonder if you're one of those PGA guys who did not take the money because you were loyal, what are you saying in a one on one with Monahan and PGA brass What are you saying to them in the meeting Rory, I stuck with you frauds, and you guys lied to my face and then turned around. I get you gotta do what's good for you, but now I gotta do what's good for Fine. We get the bleep out of my face, and you know I'm probably gonna go off on.
Him, right, Rory McElroy should say to the new tour, Okay, I want a million and a half dollars to show up to any tournament. I want to check into my bank account. Would you say I want a new commission or the PGA.
I don't trust this guy, and guess what, every other golfer behind me we cannot trust.
I didn't care about that. I don't want my bosses fired. What I want is I want a million and a half dollars the first minute I sign the deal to play in your tournament. I want a bank transfer within twelve hours, or I don't show up. Because Rory McElroy gets me to pay to watch a golf tournament, he gets me. He's one of the three or four guys.
So PGA's counter is probably what, well, if we do that for you, we got to do that for a bunch of.
Guys, No, No, that precedent argument's nonsense. Here you go, there's only about four golfers in the world that can migrate an audience, Brooks Koepkaz. One of them fills another. I think Rory's one of them. Maybe Dustin Johnson Tiger. Well, yeah, you're right when he's But this whole argument, we don't want to start a president. Some people are a precedent. Howard Stern was a precedent. Figure it out. Yeah, Patrick Mahomes is a precedent. Figure it out. Simply Safe doesn't rest in its laurels. No Safe like simply Safe twenty percent off your security system at home if you go to simplysafecolin dot com. Hour three is coming up next