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There's no way I'm gonna want to work. So I came and went up to Jersey and worked at newspaper close to New York City. Well that's fun. It was fun for a little bit, but New York City was a lot more fun. Yeah. So you were a little wild out of college. Yeah. I was twenty two and I wanted to have fun, meet girls, do that fun stuff. Yeah, of course, and you did. That's how you met your wife in New York City. How do you know this? Do my homework? You told me no, I think the listener Colin Cowherd, I listen. I get it. I was absolutely obsessed child of divorce, so I knew it. At eight years, I was like, I had no fun none. I was just a head down, get a job, terrified I was going to be broke the rest of my life. Childhood divorce, you go to a therapist, you figure, you know, I had to deal with all that nonsense. But so I didn't have any fun. I was in Vegas, but I was working, like, you know, too much. So but you went out and had fun. I respect that you went out. I went into some debt, you know, because I wasn't making peanuts as a journal Well, in these days, I don't want to have to pay back loans too bad. Then I started a website and it worked out pretty well. Yeah, you sold it a lot of dough. That's settle down on it. So, okay, I used to talk NFL Combine a lot more than I do now. And I think it's a it's a beauty contest. I don't watch those either. It's a pageant. I don't I'm not a pageant parent. I don't care. So's it's a lot of fools goal to me. And I think you can be fooled by. I mean, Bill Belichick's like, yeah, I'm not gonna go this year. Rams last year, I'm not gonna go. I wouldn't go to it. I think you get fooled. All the players are polished. All the players have practiced for it through their agents, the interviews, even the Wonderlick. Now you can study for it. You better not be bad in the wonderlick. You're studying for it. So Anthony Richardson's a quarterback at Florida. I don't know how good he's gonna be. You know, he's can move around a little bit. Looks like a little Josh Allen maybe. But there's a quote here this morning at the Combine that this kid's crushing it. I talked to a handful of scouts every single once at Anthony Richardson's the best quarterback interview they've had this year. Yeah, they said Baker Mayfield and twenty eighteen crushed the white board. And EJ. Manuel, who I interviewed in twenty thirteen before the draft, I fell in love with. It was the best interview I've ever had with a college kid, and it didn't work. The way I look at interviews these days, they better be good. They practiced their agents, they practice with pr people. For him, I'm looking for landmines. If they're nervous or quirky or weird, or they're stuttering, that would worry me, but that they better be good, and I think of them probably are. Here's my concerns with Anthony Richardson. He just didn't throw the ball much at Florida. Tom Brady threw the ball more this year in Tampa than Anthony Richardson did his entire career at Florida. He just didn't throw the ball much, and when he did, he wasn't very accurate. Now, Josh Allen wasn't very accurate, and he does have the size and the mobility and who knows, and hey, interviews, well, but that that stuff doesn't mean anything to me. These kids now are so polished at the combine is that you can be fooled. In fact, I think the Belichicks and the Sean mcvay's got fooled at this stuff. And you talk to kids and they're polished. Some of these kids don't have a great, great work ethic, and then for six weeks their agent tells them get in the best shape your life and we'll move you up the draft board. And they get in the best shape of their life. But that's not Go look at the game tape. Go look at three years of game tape. If they look soft on gametape, that's who they are. You can get fooled with interviews, especially when people practice them. They're like resumes. Nobody puts their bad stuff and their real life experiences on a resume. It's all the good stuff. If you have a job as a sophomore in college and you get fired, you don't put it on your resume. I didn't put it on mine. I'm not saying I was fired college, but I had a job that went sideways. I didn't put it on my resume. So there you go. I don't know. I don't think it's reality speaking of and then this kid could be a good player. Again, there's a lot of Josh Allen stuff here where he completed fifty four percent of his throws. Josh Allen threw the ball a lot more in college than Anthony Richardson. But hearing that somebody interviews, well, when you're running from pass rush, I could care less how you interview. Can you make throws on the run in the NFL on Sunday? That's all I care about. So I saw this story. You know, Jim Harbaugh has a lot of critics. I'm not one of them. All you sold your stock on the Warriors this year, I bought it, and all you sold your stock on Harbaugh and I bought it, and all you bought Westbrook stock and I sold it five years ago. I've done well as a broker. Okay, I've never sold my hardball stock. I do think he's a little quirky and he's unique. But John Harbaugh, his brother with the Ravens, spoke about Jim Michigan and his future the other day, talk about make no oath for the future. You know, I think he's honest about that. That's probably the difference with him and all these other guys who you know, act like they they're not, you know, they're not open about opportunities that come along, you know. Jim. Jim's open about it. I think his players respect that, his coaches respect that, you know, and and he's just an open book man. He he's a fun guy to be around. I saw some of the Michigan guys here they just laugh about, you know, how fun it is to play there, and what a good guy he is. So I think he's a Michigan for life. Probably. By the way, in the last two years, last twenty eight games, Michigan under Harbaugh, who's been flirting with the NFL for two years, is twenty five and three. Only George is better. He's been better than Saban Dabo Sweeney, Ryan Day twenty five and three the last two years and has taken over the Ohio State Series. And they'll be favored again next year. And this year it's in ann Arbor and they're returning their quarterback. They'll probably win it again. So the bottom line is the world has changed. Kids do not care about facilities. That was a big that was the rage for fifteen years. The lockers. Oregon was at the forefront of that. In Texas, got to have good facilities. Kids don't care about that. Kids care about two things. In twenty twenty three, show me the money nil and get me to the pros. And in twenty twenty Harbaugh got ten guys to the pros. And in twenty twenty one he got eight. So that's what guys care about. Give me some money now and get me more money later. And that's okay, young people. It years ago they were into facilities. Michigan had good facilities. Now Michigan's trying to ramp up their nil. But Harbaugh's not for everybody. He's transparent. I think about this all the time. If my kid was interviewing where to go to college, I would tell him the coach may leave. I would tell my son, Saban may retire, Dabo may retire, Harbaugh may leave. You don't just go for the coach. You go for the culture. You go for the academics, you go for the program, you go for the funding, you go for the momentum, you go for the school. And Michigan is great at all of those. So it's you know, in our business. When people are right, they like to tell you when they whiff. All the Harbaugh critics have all disappeared. They went lockness, monster, Bermuda triangle, they all disappeared five and three last two years. Only George is better. That's it. Ohio State's not better. Oklahoma's not better. Ohio State, Bama, Clemson, they're not better. Michigan States not better. There you go. There are certain people that I see the media turn on and for whatever reasons, Harbaugh can be. You know, the COVID year. They had a bad year at Michigan. And if you remember, the truth is Belichick had told me. I'd know somebody that knows Belichick, and Belichick had told people during the COVID year, it's nonsense. It's a nonsense year. We can't do anything. A lot of these coaches looked at the COVID year as a chance to rebuild staffs, to fix problems. A lot of coaches didn't look at take it seriously. There weren't fans in the stands. You couldn't do certain things. Our government was trying to figure it out state the state, the state, conference to conference to conference. Everybody had different liabilities and freedoms and restrictions, and you know he had a bad He just basically he said during the COVID time, this is a nightmare. It's a mass. I'm not going to take it seriously. I'm going to fix some stuff on my staff. And you know the biggest mistake Michigan ever made. Never do this is go to a star coach and ask him to take a pay cut. One time, Nick Saban lost to Oregon, and Alabama stupidly went to Nick Saban and you know, they started talking about his salary. He went and sniffed the Texas job and they were forced to get him a Mercedes dealership and pay off his mortgage. And Michigan, I don't know about your salary. What was Michigan before Jim Harbaugh. Go look at the attendance, and go look at the team. He showed up next year they won ten games. Now they've been all over national team. He's selling merchandise everywhere in a country. So, yeah, only George is better. Kids don't care about all this flirtation stuff. They don't. Kids want you to be authentic and they want to be pros. Are you a HARDBA guy? Yes? I am. You know I heard you say, you don't know why I like the meat with the whole teardown thing. Colin the media, as someone who's in it, loves nothing more than to build someone up. All this guy's amazing, he's great, he's amazing, and then tear him down within two or three years. It makes for great content. You could get the off the record stuff and pile on Harball. It's unbecoming in the media, but that's definitely a thing. Saban bombed in the NFL. Harball flourished in it. Harball flourishes in college and the pro Saban's worked in one and also Alabama. Michigan's a very hard place to win. It's an academic power. It's got a top law school, a top medical school. It is a hard not everybody can go to Michigan. They turned down kids they can't get you know, it's a it's an academic power. It's like what do they call these a public ivy? You know, like some of these universities are, Michigan's one of them. It's not for everybody. It's got hard heart academics. Remember there was a stretch where Jim Harball was like a click machine. He would like sleep in a Remember he slept in a tree for some recruit or something silly and nonsensical, and like everybody's putting it online. So Harball is a click machine, Nick Saban, click machine. That's why the Internet gravitates toward these guys, whether it's build up or tear down. You know, you don't really see that with the there's five coaches in college football. If you said tomorrow, five coaches, there's no dispute. They're great, Saban, obviously, Lincoln Riley, stop arguing. Boy he didn't win a title. He's never won less than eleven games. Uh, Jim Harball, Dabo Sweeney's pretty darn good. He's another guy that media is coming after. But give me the fifth that's guaranteed great. I would say it's Brian Kelly, and nobody likes him either. Brian Kelly's won at every level. Immediately. How many coaches coach well back to back titles? No? No, okay, so we'll put Kirby in there. He didn't have to leg it, but Kirby. So we're at six now. I mean, absolutely, no refuting. They're great, they can recruit, they can coach, they turn it around fast. Chip Chip Kelly again. I love Chip, but I don't doubt he's one of the smartest coaches in college football. UCLA is not a football power. It's harder to win eight games there than it is to win ten. Ad lsu yea. By the way, Chip Kelly had more success in the NFL than Nick Saban did he got I know he had a good run with Eagles. I know ten, six, ten and six first two years. He doesn't like Chip Kelly well, the NFL pushback because he's different and contrarian and doesn't do things the way everybody else does him. One more Herd. The Herd streams twenty four hours a day, seven days a week within the iHeart Radio app. Search Herd to listen live or on demand whenever you like. In your first year. Discover credit Cards double all the cash back you've earned automatically everything you earned doubled. Seriously check it out. Discover dot Com, slash match j Mack with the News, No, no turn on the news. This is the Herd line here. Let's talk a little bit more about Russell Westbrook Collins. Um. You know I coach youth basketball. I know you do. Yeah, I hear about it all the time. Well, my daughter's team. We took a tough loss last week, but basically I've got two first place to One of my strategies is we load up defensively against the good players and the guys who weren't as good, yeah, we'll leave them over right. Well, the Warriors last night did that exact strategy against Russell Westbrook and Draymond Green talked about it after the game. We got arrested in some shots, but I think when you have a game play like that, what that does to you mentally is tough. And I think, you know, it was more so the mental than a shot, and so I thought, um, I thought, you know, we did a good job of sticking with the game planning. We was able to muddy the game up for them on a mucket up on the defensive side, and it ended up working out for us. They looked great in the second half, by the way. Yeah, I mean they just didn't guard him. Here's a rule for all UNBA fan boys who read Slam magazine and like puff pieces. If you're six born, can't shoot, I'm not interested in you. I never bought into the Derek Rose phenom or the John Wall phenom or the arsall Westbrook, they're talented. You gotta be able to shoot six four hundred. You gotta be able to hit a three out. What you're not gonna You're not gonna defend, You're not gonna rebound, you're not gonna intimidate. You got when you're a small player, you gotta be able to shoot. You mentioned well, we talked about Blake Griffin earlier. Remember he was kind of fading quickly because all he could do was dunk, developed a three point shot, had like an all NBA season in Detroit, extended his career by a few years. Yeah, Russell Westbrook doesn't seem to be doing that, Colin. I was watching that. I thought at one point Russ would look to ty Lou and say, Yo, just just get me out of here. I'm not playing well, I'm a liability, I'm hurting our team. Yeah, that he's not gonna do. That's self awareness is sometimes necessary. It is all right. Let me ask you. They're playing the Sacramento Kings tonight. They've lost four games since Russ joined the team. What do you do if you're tyl Loo, do you say, Russ, sit this one out. Let's just get our head right, we'll come back next time. Well, I've I think somebody in that organization pounded the table to get Westbrook in. Paul George, we know this. Yeah, it's time to move off that move It's okay, it's this is not a this is just what fifth team in six year or something. It's the Clippers have more problems than Westbrook, but he is exacerbating their issues. So Westbrook's a very polarizing player. So what it means is somebody has to bang the table. So Lebron banged the table for Westbrook. The scouting department said no, the GM said no, and Lebron banged the table. They brought him in and then they said for a while. You gotta play with him for a while. That's your call. So somebody in that organization Paul George banged the table, and the Clippers may be saying, all right, pal, this was on you. Wan't you let us run the franchise And all the people who want to say, we're just bashing Westbrook, that's not what this is. The current iteration of Russell Westbrook is not a very good NBA player's right, But we would accrue with that guy. Average of triple double eight years. Is going to be a Hall of Fame player. Good guy, people like him right off the court. Ye, I mean, there's a nice guy. He's a liability right now. Well, he's a smaller player who doesn't shoot well. And those plays historically John Wall Westbrook don't age well. The hyper athletic player who doesn't shoot well. The guy Steve Nash could have played a long time, Curry could, Kobe could have played more years. Allen Iverson again did not necessarily shoot it well. If you can shoot the ball well as a small player, you can extend your career. There's value, come off the bench, hit threes. So what you get is these smaller, hyper athletic players, John Wall, Westbrook, Derek Rose, they'll give you about seven years of amazing. They'll win awards, they'll get love from the NBA community, they will age. I mean John Wall fell off a cliff in two years, had a couple of major injuries. But you know the problem is when you're so athletic and just you can dunk on anybody, it's tough. In the offseason, get into gyd and shoot five hundred and threes a day. We I don't want to do that. I can dunk on anybody, you know, like Steph Curry has had a lot of injuries, still wildly effective. John wallhead injuries off a cliff. He couldn't shoot, Yeah, he never. You gotta be able to shoot. Clay Thompson has had two brutal injuries. He's come back had a great year. Why because his game is built around shooting in the shooters League. That's why Clay Thompson's having an amazing year. He's not the defender he used to be. He's not, so he gave up thirty percent of his game. He's as good now as he's been in seven years. Why because he can shoot. It's funny. The Clippers also picked up Eric Gordon. Remember in a trade. I think the Eric Gorton has more value to them than Russell Westbrook because one guy can shoot the other can. Now of Courton's not having a great year, but I would trust him in a big spot over Russell Westbrook for sure. Next up, let's stick with the Warriors. Yahoo Sports is Chris Haynes is reporting that the best shooter in NBA history and Finals MVP, Steph Curry, will return to the courts Sunday here in LA against the Lakers, coward, maybe you need to get to that game big time Lakers Warriors. Steph has been out since February fourth with a leg injury. Wiggins has been out for a couple of Weeks's personal issue. I didn't dive into it, so does everybody watching the Warriors. What's happening? They have now developed their bench Stevencenzo. I think you mentioned him live. He's been excellent. Now lambs getting minutes, they are commingas getting real minutes. So now Warriors are fifth in the West. Oh, they're not gonna end up fifth. Well, let's see. I mean it might be tough to pass the Kings. I know you can scoff at that. Here's the standing currently, were back of the King Memphis, and the King King's gonna pull back a little here in the next three weeks. We Sons are gonna be rising. We know that, Suns, Suns rising, Warriors rising, Mavericks falling falling. The teams that don't play, teams that don't play defense, Kings and Mavericks will start falling because defense now matters. You want the six seed, you want to face the Kings, and that's no disrespect to the Kings fans. I've been hyping them all year. That team is almost their entire team has barely any playoff experience member Warriors or in the Grizzlies head. Yeah, I don't like the Grizzlies much. With this jam Moran stuff and the Dylan brothers, I'm out on them. If you've looked at the odds for to win the championship, like Denver, I believe his third in the league, Phoenix is ahead of Denver odds to win the team. You know what's interesting, Yokich is a little bit of a problem because the Draymond Green, his sort of style doesn't stop Yokich. Denver's a weird matchup. The Clippers have struggled with Yokich. The Warriors can kind of struggle with him. Yeah, so Draymond Green takes your best player, the Rodman kind of just discombobulates it. Draymond does that stuff doesn't work against Yoki. So it's it's Denver's a weird Yokich is such a unique player, they become an odd matchup. Defensively, they'll pull him away from the hoop. Draymond setting squeens all over and now Yokis is chasing, which is that that's not great for him. But like you said, he's a triple double machine offense, tough to stop it. Yeah, denver Is, I trust Yokis to be good. He's not a good defender, but I'm not sure if I trust the Jamal Murray's you do you love that guy's so good? Awesome story. I'll send you a story I read about him. His parents have been grinding and since he was a kid, and he loves it. He wants all the smoke. Jamal Murray, He's that dude. Final story. How about the Detroit Lions sixth pick in the draft this year? Remember they made that Matthew Stafford deal two years ago. Now, you have been a massive proponent of Jared Goff on this show. I don't know if you guys are cut on the video. You went to his beach house out here in hermosa Um. They were only eight and nine last years and the Lions have a tough decision. Are they going to be drafting this high again? So Dan Campbell, their coach, talked about the current quarterback situation. Cal heard listen up. First of all, golf did a hecker job for us for us Man, he's our guy. You know, he's bought us time here. Uh. We we believe we can win with Jared Goff. And in the meantime, we also know he's not going to be here for the next you know, ten years. I mean he's not um, you know, it's not like Jared Goffer rookie. So certainly our eyes are on man potentially a quarterback. And uh, the question is where where do you acquire that at? And that's something that Brad and I kick around all the time. But we don't feel like we're pressed right now. We don't feel like we're pressed, you know. But that doesn't mean our eyes aren't on a quarterback. Well, they have two first round picks, so they could go get a quarterback and then they could solve an issue with their I think eight teams pick or something like that not coming. Or they could go get two defensive starters. Okay, and they're gonna be a ten win team next year. We believe in this team that they're gonna be good. I'll be honest with you. If Aaron Rodgers leaves, I have them winning the division. I think I think Detroit wins the division. You like to look big picture, macro step out the future Global. This team has a really good nucleus, some young, good players in the trenches, young skill position guys. Colin seriously think about it. They're they're not going to be drafting six anytime soon. Well, here's what's interesting. What they really need is an interior defensive lineman. And with the Jalen Carter news, if he drops, that's literally the player they need at six. Oh, I mean that what they need. They have an edge rush, they need a corner and a interior lineman. And that's a playoff team. And now the Jalen Carter news may scare a few teams. Now I'm not saying it will, but if he dropped a little, that's exactly what they need because they if you watched Detroit play, it's very obvious what they need. They need more speeded linebacker, an interior dan lineman, and another good corner. You can see it. They need that those three things. Because offensively O line's good. They could probably use another like a number two receiver, good backs, tight ends fine like you, they have a lot of elements great oc They play hard under Dan Campbell. So Dan Campbell calls you lay after the show, Colin, I watched. So we're seriously thinking quarterback at six? What say you? What should we do it? Go get the best defensive player, either go get either the best corner on the board or the best interior lineman or the best linebacker. Because I watched you play last year and you would you would have been a playoff team if you could stop anybody late. They're thin on defense. They run out of gas at Aaron Goff would have gotten outplayed Aaron Rodgers at Lambeau in that game. You saw it. You watched food and Lambeau outplayed him. Disagree, Well, no, not on the outplaying. I think you. I think you really have to look at it. If Bryce Young falls a little bit, you're not fall into six. Well, Levis Anthony Richardson, You're you're get ready for the future. Quarterback. Save some money at QB. You just don't want to do that, Huh. Listen, you get what you pay for. Everybody's talking about saving money at quarterback. You know who's not saving money at quarterback? Kansas City, there's one Patrick Maholmes. Man. You know why Philly so good because Jalen Hurts is on his rookie deal. Talk to me in two Philadelphia is good for a lot of reasons. That's one of them. J Mack with the news, Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by. The third Line News. Work for NFL dot com for almost a decade, covering the NFL for two decades. Uh. He's a radio host in Houston. I've used him for years. His draft analysis. I think his top notch lanzerline Dad Coats in the NFL for years. He's a draft analyst NFL dot Com. Good to see you, my friend. Look at they put you in a tunnel at the combine. They won't him let the poor guy. I know how that thing works there. But listen, if I didn't do this, all you'd hear is Rex and Effect and naughty by Nature. Trust me, that's all they're playing right now. The Okay, So here's my thing is everybody's talking to Anthony Richardson. But and there's some Josh Allen stuff. He didn't throw it a lot at Florida, and he wasn't terribly accurate. And my line's always been if you can't complete sixty percent in college, I'm out. Then Josh Allen comes around and I'm like, okay, okay, we got we got a new reality. Shouldn't I be concerned about a guy that really didn't throw much and wasn't accurate when he did? You absolutely shure, and I mean listen. I missed on Josh Allen because I thought his comp was Jake Locker for the same reason we had never seen it. I think the problem you run into now is everyone's gonna be really quick to act like the Josh Allen outlier is something that could become standard. And so I hear this user Will Levis when I hear this US with Anthony Richardson, But you have to go in and say, Okay, why were they why were they inaccurate? What was the completion percentage issue? This is why you have to watch tape. Was that an issue with separation of wide receivers? Yes, Josh Allen had that of wyoming. Josh Allen also did not throw on time, and so a higher percentage of his throws were contested throws and those trending in completions. He also had accuracy issues, no question. I think somebody can be fixed with some mechanical changes, some footwork changes, for sure. With Richardson, but I think when it gets right down to it, if your natural accuracy isn't good, then it's really incomment upon the team to get as many good wide receivers who can separate, who can separate, don't tell me about the ball skills. I need guys that can separate and open the windows a little wider for Anthony Richardson and probably Will Levis as well. Yeah, I don't think when you watch the tape he's an easy or natural thrower. I think it's hard for him, and that's okay. It just doesn't look natural to me. The most fascinating quarterback well, I mean, I'll just say this. So when I watched, I like Justin Herbert, and a lot of people push back and they said he's too rigid and mechanical. And my takeaway was he's got an offensive line coach, Mario crystal Ball as a coach, and that offense is run first. So they get to the Rose Bowl, crystal Ball knows, well, I'm gonna let him run now. I don't have to worry about him getting And he's unbelievable. And I have two friends, one of them Tom tolesco the Chargers. GM's like he's sitting there on the Rose Bowl, going we gotta draft this guy. So I watched CJ. Stroud and I'm like, he's kind of mechanical like Herbert. And then I watched the Georgia game and I'm like, who whoa, whoa, whoa whoa time out. I didn't know c J. Stroud could do that. And so I got this Herbert thing with CJ. Stroud and I'm like, I didn't know he runs like that. Are there comps? Do you like c J. Stroud? I gotta tell you, I watched the tape all year long. I'm watching games that you get through the tape, and it is so strange to go through an entire season and say, ah, he's okay, Like I probably wouldn't pull the trigger on him until the middle of the first round if I were a team, and then he plays Georgia and it's like, who is this guy? I mean, he looks confident in the pocket, He's throwing all the time on time. He's always an accurate guy. But his ability you just mentioned to Colin, this is a big part of it. Extend the play Ohio State fans zone read stuff. He would never pull and run even when it was wide open, and so defenses knew that they just had to crash down on the handoff, and all of a sudden, he's a guy who's getting out of the pocket, he's threatening with his legs, he's extending plays and it was a completely different thing. And so you know mobile quarterbacks, the mobility. You don't have to be a running quarterback, but you do need to be mobile in today's NFL, and c J. Strouds showed something against Georgia. Not only did he have his best game of his career against the best competition in a very high leverage game, but he showed some mobility that is really something that made you think all over again, well maybe this is going to be the new c J. Strout. And I will tell you I bumped his grade up specifically because of the Georgia game. Without question. Yeah, yeah, no, I have again two gms. We're at that Rolls Bowl with Herbert and went, wow, that's a totally different player. So you know the Bryce young thing. I said this certain times in the NFL when the Rams went and got o b J. It wasn't a seven year acquisition. It's like he can help us win. Now there is a play Antonio Brown to the Buccaneers. It's not the four oh one k. We're not building our future around it. But he could help us win ten games. And I look at Bryce Young and I think, if I'm in chaos at quarterback, I don't know how long a little guy's gonna last, But boy, he's good. And so what if I just say I'm gonna draft him. I'm Houston and I'm gonna take my chances if I can get three great years out of him and give us momentum, build a culture, win games, get rid of chaos. Like is that the gms talk like that? And because I don't know how long he lasts, but man, the tape's good, right, Yeah, I think it's I think it's a great question because you really have to ponder who the grms are, who the teams are, and what is the circumstance of the team. For the Houston Texans, there is no juice around the Texans. You've got the Astros going to a World Series every year and here you got the Texans and Rockets just in the dumps, and so you need some juice for your organization. Damiko Ryans has the city believing again and excited about Texans football for the first time in a very long time. You add Bryce Young into that equation, and I think you have energized the city with the guy who is, without question on tape, the best quarterback, the most heralded quarterback of the class. He's just as a size outliar. If you look at number four with the Colts, they are in a desperate position to win. Chris Ballard, you know he needs to win. The Colts, Jim Ursey wants to win. They want to get back to the playoffs. Stroud gives you a chance. Maybe this year. Richardson and Levis Levis simply aren't ready. But here's Young, and Young is a polished person. He is a face of the franchise, qualities to him, and I think he is the most game ready quarterback in the entire draft. So you can understand why Chris Ballard might like a different quarterback, or the Colts might like a different quarterback, and they may have sized considerations as well. But the best guy, make no mistake about it, the best guy right now headed into the league with the fewest questions is Bryce Young, and so the Colts need that certainty as early as they can get it. They've tried the other direction. The Texans need that juice. The Texans interestingly enough, they could actually afford to be a little more creative if they wanted to and draft defense number two and then see if Levis or Richard Center are available at twelve because there's a little longer runway with Damiko Ryan's there. But the Colts, man, I don't think they're gonna go crazy to move up, but they really need a guy like Bryshan who can help right now. Yeah, they got an impulsive owner and he wants wins and he wants them now. Finally, I want you to go back a couple of years. I said that I've been telling friends this for the last year or two. I used to try to guess and see if guys would work at quarterback. And I've really come to believe that there's about two guys a decade, Trevor Lawrence Andrew Luck. I think Caleb Williams will be this. They're gonna win eventually, period. I don't care how their coaches. Everybody else's is good. Is where they land. And I felt justin Fields and Trey Lance were that Trevor Lawrence would succeed eventually at a very high level, very quickly. Mac Jones ceiling, I was not a fan of Zach Wilson at all, and I said, Trey Lance and Fields, they could be really good, but they're not good enough to overcome average. Where are you today on Justin Fields? Is he what you thought he would be? In ways yes, and in ways no. I think that there isn't incomplete right now because the pass protection and the weapons are not good enough. I still think there are a lot of things on tape this show that he still has a long way to go as a passer. That's a concern. He's an explosive player. I think only Ron Poles and the coaching staff know how much he's come. You know, how far he's come forward from the mental part of being a quarterback, the preparation, the mental toughness, the diagnosing part. That's really those guys who are going to be able to diagnose that. But I think with Justin Fields, you know, I still think it's a very interesting question about dealing Justin Fields. Taking a draft pick and going Bryce Young, a guy who I think is more polished in fields, and that gives you a reset on the rookie clock. I don't think that's an outrageous conversation like people act. I think it's a very reasonable conversation to say, you know, this is the kind of quarterback now. Does Bryce Young have the physical attributes to stand out if the weather gets a little bumpy? Does he have that type of arm? I don't know that's a separate question, but I think justin fields. Obviously, with Trey Lance, he's still what's behind door number four? Like you still have no idea over the last four years Collins's He's played one year of full football over the last four years. That's almost unheard of. And at a position where you really need experience to get better, you can't speed it up simulators and through watching tape. You've got to be out there going through the highs and lows. And he still hasn't gone through it. And he's with the most quarterback friendly offense in all of football. So hopefully this is a year where he gets his shot. The party has muddied bed up, and I don't know what the answer is now for Tree lands nfl dot COM's land zero line. As always, my friend, great stuff. We'll talk again during the draft. Thanks buddy, absolutely, thanks. Yeah, his stuff is fantastic. His analysis, you know, think about it in terms of this. Great quarterbacks like Mahomes make the difficult look easy. Guys that aren't gonna make it make the easy look difficult. If you look at the Anthony Richardson stuff, he's a fascinating prospect. He struggles on eight yard stuff. It's hard. Zach Wilson, very early stuff out in the flat. Some of this stuff, these aren't hard throws now that when you're running right, running left, throwing right. But if you watch some of the videos, the stuff that's kind of easy, he makes look really hard. There'll be one here when he's rolling out and these are not like right here, that's an automatic throw that he made that thing look hard. Look at this one, come on, that's that's a layup. So the great ones Mahomes makes hard look easy. That's very few guys can do that. My problem with Zach Wilson very early. Sam Darnold had some of this by year two. I'm looking at Sam, this is an easy throw. You're making it look way hard. And so I think Richardson's fascinating. But when you watch tape. When I watched him play a couple of times. I'm like, come on, those are layup throws when you Mahomes a great example, he had a couple of wide open guys in the Super Bowl he threw too. But when Mahomes has got so much muscle memory as dad was a major league baseball player, he doesn't even think when he throws, just everything. The layups are just so easy for Mahomes. You're watching a kid there. He's thinking as he's throwing. That is a warning sign? Are you? It's one thing if you can't you know, you're not reading a sophisticated defense. I get that. But if you can't make the easy stuff out in the flat, and you can't one hundred out of one hundred lebron hits one hundred out of one hundred layoups, you can't be missing the layoups. So you know, I talked to a lot of people around the league and agents, and I know someone who was visiting Gainesville a lot during this football season to try to court Richardson, and a lot of agents do and the consensus among like a lot of people in a circle was he's not ready. He just this is one year as a starter. Come back next year in Gainesville, will crush it. He's throwing like under four hundred passes in his college at somebody got in his ear. One person in particular, I said, you're gonna go to the draft. You're gonna be a first round pick, And Anthony Richardson said, I'm gonna go to the draft. It's probably a decision he should not have made. Yeah, all this hype right now is just hype. He's not going top five. Don't believe any of that. That's why the Seattle Seahawks are interesting because with Gino, you could bring the kid in and just say you're gonna sit for two years behind Geno, and you could probably even trade down a little bit down to like eight nine if someone wants to jump off, because Seattle's got their tackles, the star running back, receiver capable tight ends no offense. So Seattle's a place kid we're gonna bring in for two years. You're not going to see the field because Gino's big, strong kid, not gonna get banged up. That one's fascinating to me. Detroit as well, right, I mean, we chip behind golf for two years. I know a lot of people saying Lamar Jackson and Cam Newton, Trey Lance. Okay, Trey Lance barely through any passes in college. Yeah, sitting out coming to the league and he's like sand You know, the people in San Francisco were telling you, like, listen, this guy major project two years ago. Right, No, I mean what Anthony Richardson would be. And I'm not bashing the kid. He's obviously looks like an Adonis, I mean, guys of beasts. No, but it's different. It's it's um, Josh Allen made a lot more throws in college. Cam Newton was unbelievable in college. That was a you know, but but when you're young and haven't thrown a lot and the easy stuff. Look, could he have used another year with three hundred and fifty throws in the SEC? Probably? Sure. Also, I'm sure his people said, listen, USC's got a kid that you're not passing, and UNC has a kid you're probably not gonna pass. Yeah, so at best you'd be third. But what do we know about will Levison Stroud? So, and that's a tough part about this process. Like, I like Richardson, I'm rooting for him. I just a major project back in the second The Herd. 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They're best defender and they're a bad defensive team now and they traded four Kyrie Irving, a great offensive player, and now they're now a better offensive team. Last night, Luca and Kyrie were amazing. Both had forty plus. But it's not sustainable. You're not going to get forty plus from both guys. You're not gonna surrender one hundred twenty six points in winning this league. It was a great night for Sports Center and Slam Magazine. But they are exactly what I predicted. They'll be fun, they'll be dynamic, they're easy on the eyes, they're a blast to watch, and these guys are absolutely top ten amazing. But in the last six games they become a bottom five defensive team. And this is what the league is. You're gonna find over the next three months March, April and May. The teams that play defense will set operate. Milwaukee, Miami, Boston, Golden State, Memphis has the ability to play defense. You're gonna see teams that don't play defense. Dallas and Sacramento have some rough nights. That's why Golden States now red hot. They're playing defense. They score all year long. They didn't defend anybody. Now they're defending people. They got their rotation fixed, so Dallas is easy on the eyes. They're a lot of fun, but you become what you trade for offense, and you become what you trade away. Dorian Finney Smith best defender, they gain garden Anyboddy here was Kyrie after the win. So it's definitely a different approach tonight for us as a team, because we really wanted this. I really wondered this, But I think, like I said, the last time I was sitting up here, I just had to join the party, you know, and just make sure my teammates we're gonna follow a long and Luca was ready for the party. I was ready for the party tonight. And it was one of those games where we had some special performances. And I'm just grateful that the work translated because it could have gone either way. By the way, they play a team that had just played Miami, very physical Miami, the Sixers little tired. You know, you get the back to back situation. So it's not that I don't think it's fun, but there's a big A lot of these teams are fun to watch. Summer built for the Milwaukee is built for the playoffs, Boston's built for the playoffs. Golden State's built for the playoffs. I think Phoenix is I'm not sure if Denver is. Memphis plays real defense, but now you've got the jaw situation and noise. And you're not a big fan of Memphis, they have depth. I'm not sure who their second score is now. The job morant nonsense, I think is that you got to keep your eye on that. Yeah, they faded significantly now Steven Adams is back or starting to play like he used to, which is a key factor. But the Warriors trampled them in the playoffs last year. Like I'm not a total believer in me, I think the Warriors are completely in the Celtics and the Memphis Grizzlies. Head you can tell when somebody acts like a tough guy. They always call inner scoreboard add or scoreboard. When guys act tough, they're not that tough. It's the it's the quiet guys. You gotta be careful about Memphis. Yap yap, yap, yap yap. And the other thing is Memphis plays like ten eleven guys. So the great pat Riley quote is in the playoffs, you have eight ready and you play seven. That's like all you can trust. You really can only trust seven guys in the playoffs. So now Memphis where they got that energy boots from guys at the end of the bench, the other guys are playing more. I don't know if they'll have enough in the playoffs, but uh, that's good news for Dallas, my Mavericks. The only the only thing we strongly disagree with is Denver. You buy him and I don't. I think they'll win a playoff series, but I think if they met the Lakers and Lebron and Adi where helps are not getting in the playoffs. Come on, let's be realistic. Positive Uncle column sees rainbows. 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