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We had lots to talk about so sports in society, but let's stick to sports are always trying to legislate even and fair. Never been a bigger gap between the rich and the poor. You can't go ahead and tax the rich people more. Whatever. My entire life, I've watched this in sports, legislate, take away this, give to that in sports, And yet the Yukon women basketball, Alabama football, New England Patriots, Golden State Warriors have the most impressive dynasties I can recall in the last fifty years. I mean, Warriors have been great for like nine ten years, Patriots twenty years, Yukon women's basketball, how long that thing last. Bama football was the greatest dynasty ever. They are trying all ncuble A baseball. Everybody's trying how many years in a row of the Dodgers won their division. They're not a dynasty because they only have one World Series, But I mean, how many years in a row. You can't legislate even in sports people aren't evenly smart, evenly talented, evenly inspired. You can't do it. Kansas City's a dynasty and they're not going anywhere. They're smarter, they're more talented. I mean, they're very unique. We have not had back to back Super Bowl champs since two thousand and four. They're in a very unique spot. Took them a few years to get it all right. But they don't have any holes in their roster. They have no big impending free agent losses. They get the best coach back and the best arguable defensive coordinator back. Mahomes is young, ascending, doesn't have an ego. They have all sorts of young players, fourth most rookie snaps in the NFL. And next season they get a quirky scheduling break where they get the Bills at home, the Dolphins at home, the Bengals at home, and the Eagles at home. They get a huge scheduling break, so once again they're going to be planned playoff games at Arrowhead. It was different with the Rams. You could kind of see it coming right. McVay, Whitworth, Donald all talking retirement. They pushed all their chips in. They were paying golf and Matt Stafford. You could see an aging roster. They gave up draft capital. You could see it was a little top heavy. Top heavy means in any industry. It could topple the Buccaneers the year before your quarterbacks forty five. It's a weird organization. There's no history of sustained greatness. It was an aging roster and then a bunch of free agents that had to get paid. Kansas City's different. They're different. Tons of rookies who aren't getting paid for years. A quarterback that's the best, a coach that's the best, a defensive coordinator who's seen every offense in the league. Their staffs in a plus the coach plus the quarterback in a plus. The draft capital eleven picks. The GM just found a star running back in the seventh round. They don't have any big free agent dollars that are going to screw them. They actually have a pretty good cap space situation. I don't see this going backwards, and I find the AFC is much easier to predict. In fact, this year in the AFC, I not only picked two divisions right, I got him perfect one through four. It's not because I'm smart. It's a quarterback conference now, I can tell you right now, Buffalo, Cincinnati, Kansas City, and Jacksonville are favored to win next year and should be favored to win. They have star quarterbacks. NFC's wild. It's more rosters over quarterbacks. We know San Francisco and Philly are loaded. But if Jalen Hurts gets hurt this year, he did. Minshaw came in. Gardner Minshett they couldn't win games. So this feels very Golden State to me is that I've got brain power every we where. Without a lot of egos, Mahomes and Steph Curry, you get great, but selfless, not a lot of egos, self deprecating, married kids, and that's where it all starts. You don't have a lot of egos here. I don't send any holes in the roster. Golden State this year has had a little apathy on the defensive end, but you really think the playoffs come, they're gonna be awful. I mean, they've been running this thing back for nine years. Barring any injuries, they'll be really good again. I just think this organization, quarterback, head coach, GM ego. What blew up the Lakers dynasty. You know, if you start looking at what blow stuff up, it's apathy, it's ego. You can't sustain it because a lot of times you have a bad owner or a goofy owner. You look at the Warriors and you look at the Chiefs, it looks the same to me. Here was Patrick Mahomes yesterday in Kansas City at the mic before we start this season, AFC West said we were rebuilding I'll be honest with y'all. Lore rebuilding means not rebuilding. You were world tens before I give it to the main So Travis Kelsey, I just want to let y'all know this is just the beginning. We ain't done yet. By the way, it was cocky. He's six Coors lights in and he's twenty seven years old. He's having fun. You're allowed one day of the year, Tom Brady didn tequila almost fell into the water, almost through the Lombardi Trophy in the water. You gotta have a few Coors lights in the day you win and talk smack. I'll give you that, all right. So um, I don't overreact, but all you Russell Westbrook fan boys. Last night was the first game with Lebron, all the new guys and no Westbrook. Look at the assist numbers, the spacing. They played ten guys, big minutes, flexibility shooters, people willing to set a pick and rebound. Not about themselves. I know, I know, Colin. You don't like Westbrook, don't know him as a guy, don't like him as a half court player. He's a guard that can't shoot, defend, set a pick, handle the ball. Yeah, other than that, he's fantastic. Did you watch him last night? This was a real team, ten deep youth rebounding. When Anthony Davis is engaged, He's a top fifteen player in the league, maybe top eight. Lebron James is still a top six or seven player. That was a real team last night with a real bench, Reeves, shrewder Mote, Bomba, Rui Hachimura. It's like real players. By the way, Lebron didn't even play a lot of minutes. Ruey didn't shoot well either. At Beasley. That was enjoyable to watch. The spacing. It wasn't toxic, It wasn't Lebron dependent. Addition by subtraction is a real thing. That's why the term exists. Guards that can't shoot, defend, set a pick, bad handles hurt teams. There's no reason to pick on Westbrook, but it is a reality of his game. Lebron played his fewest minutes that he has played all season, and yet it was the second or third best I've seen them play. They played one game earlier this year at Milwaukee. They were on fire on a Friday night. This could have been the second third best game they've played. The west is wide wide open, even Golden State, due to injuries, is down a bit, not playing the defense they did. So I mean, listen, I look at the West right now, and I look at the entire NBA, and there's the Big four. These teams should be favored for the final. It's Milwaukee, Boston, Golden State will get it right in Phoenix, I think k D is going to hit immediately. I think they're going to be sensational immediately. Those are the Big four. Then there's a group I would call don't ignore very good Philly, Cleveland, Denver, Memphis Clippers. Are the Lakers capable of getting into that group because you know, health is a factor. Jason Tatum in the Finals war down they were, They were leading that series and had control, and then they weren't. We know that Chris Middleton got hurt last year. Not the same Milwaukee team. Steph Curry's hurt Warriors aren't the same Chris Paul and k D get hurt. A lot of things could happen to that big four. Can the Lakers get into the don't ignore group? I don't know. Lebron played the fewest minutes. They didn't shoot the ball from three very well. Even the free throw line and they look good, great, early, good, late spacing blocks. I mean, you and I know Lebron's still a top five player, and you and I know that Ad when engaged, he was last night's a top ten player. I don't know. Listen to Lebron seemed very optimistic after last night right now. I mean, I like the guys that we have coming in. I mean, it's we'll take some time for us to get to know one another, but I know they played the game at a high level. I feel really good about what we have um brewing. But hey know it's gonna take a lot of a commitment from us going down to stress. So I'll look forward. I just love who are weas able to pick up. Let's look at the Lakers schedule. I see a lot of doubles here. I see the Houston Rockets and a lot of the Bulls, and the Raptors and Orlando Magic and Utah Jazz a couple of times. By that point, Phoenix will be resting Durant. At the end of the season, they played the Clippers and the Suns. Durant and Chris Paul will be resting Kawhi and Paul George will be resting looks like a four or five six game winning streak to close this season. I'm I'm just telling you. You can see good early, you can see it quick. I look pretty good to me. Multiple bodies, defenders, flexible shooters, Lebron not overly Lebron dependent. Last night, A d was even in a good mood. Man good to be in La. Its gonna be a very interesting man in June. J Mac, go ahead, be Senegal, go ahead, stop laughing. I beget hour over the mood for the Lakers after a win over the Pot. I've been banging on them for four years. Yeah. By the way, I love the don't ignore section the Denver Nuggets. Don't ignore them. Number one seed in the West by like five games, number one in the NBA and offensive efficiency. Joker averaging a triple double. He's a center, No big deal. Don't ignore the Denver Nuggets. They're gonna beat the Lakers in the first round. We will have to have a gentleman's bet on the show. I don't know what it would be. Nothing to involve hair this time. But you're putting your money on the Nuggets. Yeah I will. I'll back it up with my money. I think you should bet Creighton again because I don't think that's a chance. Listen, Colin, you really don't ignore Denver, and you love the Lakers. By the way, I forgot how many playoff series for Ruey Hachimura. How about Dangelo Russell? They're very battle tested in the postseason, right, I don't know Ruey's coming off the bench. All I need is fourteen a night from D'Angelo Russell. I don't know. You guys think I'm crazy on this. I saw stuff I haven't seen in three years since the bubble team, shooters, depth, rebounders, picks, spacing. I thought I saw Anthony Davis during a time out last night, texting his real estate agent. Looked for me something in Dallas, Texas or Portland, Oregon. Give me him break. You love spending that time and long checkout lines at the grocery store. You just think I'm a homer. I've been banging on the Lakers for three years. I've been on them for three years. I was encouraged his heck last night. Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays in noon Eastern a Empacific on Fox Sports Radio FS one and The iHeart radio app now entering the No Bull Zone sponsored by Credible Great Rights, None of the Bull. So there's been a lot of talk, a lot of talk about Eric B. Enemy, a great college football player, and I think I voted for Eric B. Enemy for the Heisman when he was at Colorado. I believe I did. I think I did. And now he's an offensive coordinator for the Kansas City Chiefs, the current dynasty in the NFL. But he's not getting interviews and looks for head coaches not as not the kind you'd like. Now there's a story today he's going to interview for the offensive coordinator job for the awful Washington Commander organization and leave Kansas City. So there he will call plays and therefore then he will be qualified to be a head coach a boy. First of all, as a head coach, you do not need to be a great play caller. Brian day Ball did not call plays. He just won Coach of the Year. Nick Seriani gave up play calling he got the Eagles to the Super Bowl. So once you become a coach, I don't need your play calling. You have to be able to spot, seek and find one. None of my bosses at ESPN were broadcasters, and none of my bosses at Fox are broadcasters. They have the ability to watch them, judge talent and then say, I think they're good at that a skill I don't have, let's hire them. They were never broadcasters. Most bosses who have to hire, most CEOs who hire. Steve Jobs was not the great engineer. Steve woosnei Ak was. Jobs was the visionary. Jobs was good with social conflict and figuring things out. He wasn't close to one of the best engineers at Apple. As an NFL head coach, can you build culture, can you inspire? Are you organized? Can you manage other coaches? There's a term in the NFL called walk around coach. Many of the great ones, like Jimmy Johnson, that's what they do. They walk around to units all day, tweaking bad habit, stop that good habit, repeat that. That's what they do. They manage coaches. Nick Saban now overwhelmingly does that. He just coaches coaches, not calling plays. In fact, I would argue calling plays is often a detriment. Now Andy Reid does designs, draws them up. But let me ask you this, where are you going to learn more? Next to greatness with Mahomes and Andy Reid or calling plays for Sam Howell. I guess my point is, why do you have to be a great play caller to be a great coach? Seventy five And I'm throwing that number out. It's probably higher. Seventy five percent of great play callers that become coaches get fired. They think so. It clearly isn't play calling that makes you a great coach. It's humanity, it's leadership. Couldn't you inspire my two qualities to be a great coach? And I don't know if Eric b Enemy has them, but he certainly could. Can he inspire well? And can he hire well? That's what makes a great coach. That's it. Do you inspire and do you hire at a high level? Andy Reid inspires and hires you hear as players, You hear players talk about Andy Reid. That's Andy Reid. That's why we win. And I know he hires well because he had spags and he had by the way, Doug Peterson was there, and if you go look it up, Peterson's sometimes called plays, but Andy draws him up. It's Andy system. He creates him and then occasionally he lets you call him. That's not what it sounds like it is. I don't know if Eric B. Enemy is going to be a great coach. Joe Judge got a head coaching job in the NFL. He an offensive guy or a defensive guy. He's a special teams guy a year and he was completely over his skis. Sounded good. Adam Gase, by the way, there's a great play caller. Players didn't like him. Matt Patricia high IQ aerospace engineer. Players and Detroit didn't like him. He couldn't He couldn't inspire. Adam Gase couldn't inspire. So are you secure enough as a human being to hire people? I always think this is a great quality. Can you hire people who are smarter than you or significantly better than you at many things? That's a good boss. There's the old saying as higher a's and b's higher cs. Is Eric Enemy secure in himself enough that he could go out and say, I don't know that I'm gonna hire that. I think he is. But the idea that you learn more surrounded by Washington and Sam Howell than you learn from Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes and that organization, I don't buy it. We know the history of the NFL. It's one of the spots they're not very good at sometimes oftentimes. But don't tell me you've got to be a great play caller. Eric b Enemy has played the game. He has had to in huge games at times, make big, big calls working with Mahomes. You Phil Jackson, by the way, he didn't invent the triangle that was Tech's winner. What did Phil Jackson do? What was his label? The zen Master? He got Kobe and Shock to get along. Go read the book Three Ring Circus. It's unbelievable how much ko U there was during the Kobe Shack run. I mean every day at practice. He kept him together. Should have won four titles. Karl Malone got hurt. He was this zen master. Steve Kerr, by the way, very similar, learned from Phil Jackson. He's always had a defensive guy of Mike Brown or Ron Adams. You do the defense. He got Steph quarterbacking on the court. You can't tell me b Enemy couldn't be a good head coach. I don't want to hear about the play. Calleague Davil didn't do it. Sarianni gave it up. Was a better coach, Can you inspire well, can you hire Well, I'm gonna guess Eric B Enemy? Can J Mack with the news? No? No, this is the herd line news. The b Enemy one's really interesting. It's a fascinating discuss. Like I didn't hear a final answer. Should he take the Washington you would say no, hold out no, if you listen, Ay, he deserves a chance to be a head coach. But secondly, the reason we're giving I think it's bologny. Listen. I would love if you did call plays at a high level, But the minute you're a head coach like Brian Dable, I don't want you Colin plays. The only thing with the Dable comparison Colin is he was under a defensive head coach in Dermott who was never gonna overrule Dable when it came to an offensive thing with Alan right and Alan came in and was like and then all of a sudden, boom, he's a superstar. That ain't on McDermott, that's on Dable. How much can we attribute to Patrick mahomes greatness to Eric B Enemy? And I think the only answer comes from people inside Casey And it's probably like ninety percent Andy Reid and maybe five percent. I don't know if he's gonna work, but I've watched guys get jobs Freddie Kitchens, Joe Judge. Yeah, but they're going in a year or two. Do you want that? If you're no, But he should at least be given the opportunity, considering he's coming, like Joe Judge, from a dynasty, a legendary coach, and to buy the way the enemy was also, I don't I don't know, as I don't know why I had just done. He was a great college player at Colorado. I remember that he listen a lot of people in the Internet want to make it about you know, he's an African American coach, he's not getting a chance, blah blah blah. He interviewed for five jobs in twenty twenty one, and I looked at those jobs that he had interviewed for. One of them, the coach is going to stay on for sure. Three of them. Those coaches could get fired this year. So the question is the enemy, Do you want to leave and maybe get fired in three years or do you want to wait for all the best opportunity. No, I think I think you want the opportunity. If you're really good at something, you don't think you're gonna get fired. I would take a job for three years and roll the dice. He's an athlete, of course he wants the opportunity. Reid's head coaches like Children's left. Spagnolo left, they had their chance, they failed, they came back. There's now very few great owners. GM's coaches, quarterbacks. There's about six of all of them in the league. And I'm not joking. There's about six great coaches, about six great coordinators, about six great owners. It's just the rules, the real estate rule. There's about ten percent gray, ten percent pretty good, and then it's just stuff, right. Yeah, And so I'm not saying b enemy's gonna crack into the great It's an opportunity question, not a great question. He's just been around so much greatness in a dynasty. By the way, Mike Brown was the defensive Mike Brown in the NBA, they do a better job giving opportunities. Mike Brown was a coach, got fired in Cleveland. He went and coached the Warrior's defense, got another chance. By the way, the Warrior's defense isn't as good this year without Mike Brown, it's gone into the tank. So it's like Mike's getting second chances. My takeaway is, when's Eric get his first? It's tough, all right, Let's go to the Lamar Jackson. His future in Baltimore still kind of murky. No contract extension in sight. Ravens are expected to hand out the franchise tag, but the team did not give any assurances to prospective offensive coordinator candidates that Lamar would be their quarterback in twenty twenty three before they eventually hired Todd Munkin Foxbet has the Ravens the favorite at minus two hundred. So you know, to the layman over, well, we got two hundred bucks to win a hundred. The Jets are after that, followed by Saints, Colts, Dolphins, lurking um. Let me tell you again, let's be clear, all of those twenty three he's staying in Baltimore. Yes, but when you look at all those teams, which one fits better? He fits in all of those. All of those teams would be significantly better with Lamar Jackson. The Jets would be better tomorrow, the Saints would be better tomorrow. Every say for anybody that doubts Lamar Jackson. Go look at the teams on this list right now, every single one would be significant. The Dolphins, can you imagine, I got Waddle, Tyreeche and Lamar The would be a track team. You know who wouldn't be better? Baltimore. They would create it like a six line next year. If you want to know, if a guy's a franchise quarterback, Jets, Saints, Colts, Dolphins, immediately our playoff teams or at least feel like it. He solves multiple issues. Now, let's remember the other side of that coin is once you get him and you are better, Yeah, you've got to pay him, and then in a year or two, you got to start shedding talent, whether it's on the outside, on the in the trenches. Well, just as we saw Patrick Mahomes, they gotta lose some guys. Well, he rebounded quickly because he became an MVP in this league with running back by committee and average receivers. They had good tight ends. They had the kid now that plays Mark Andrews. Yeah, Mark Andrews, but they had the other Hayden Hurst. Yeah, okay, MVP of the league with average receivers and running back by committee and not an offensive coach, You guys can keep doubting Lamar Jackson. Jets get him tomorrow when you wake up tomorrow. If the Jets sign him overnight, what would you feel like. I'm buying massive. I'm buying some futures in the Jets. But also I'm looking at Las Vegas tickets for the Super Bowl next year. And by the way, the Jets would absolutely immediately be in the Buffalo Miami class the second he hires. He gets they're not quite kid. They wouldn't be Kansas City, no, but they So we both think Buffalo's coming down a little bit. Yes, next year? All right, next up? This is comical. The Cowboys obviously they've got big decisions to make this offseason, especially in the backfield. So Tony Pollard, who had that bad injury in the final game of the season, he's an unrestricted free agent. And oh, by the way, Zeke Elliott's contract is scheduled to count sixteen million against the cap. Cowboys legend Emmett Smith believes the team needs to keep both running backs. Here's Emmet Smith. I'm keeping both. I'm a franchise tag Pollard and I may go for a contract restructure with Zeke. But I'm keeping both and the reason why is because we've got to get Pollard back healthy. We need Zeke, we need Malik as well. We need that three headed monster right now. To rotate Malik gives us a chance to get Pollard time to get back healthy again. Now it's possible. But did Zeke Elliott forget this big running back need that They are paying Dak Prescott a ton of money to be their quarterback. Is there any way they could get rid of Zeke's contract or are they trapped? I think they're trapped. My gut tells me Jerry will not let that happen. If I again, I've never spent a second in the Dallas locker room, Isaiah. Everything you read and talk to Isaiah Pacheco. Seventh round, there are running backs place Elijah Mitchell, sixth round, they're running back. Remember for years the Seahawks had that seventh round round of Oklahoma State. He got banged up a little bit, big kid Carson. Yeah, yeah, whatever's name is. But I'm with you. You can find running backs anywhere. But the problem is Jerry has an intimate relate him. Talk to him up all the time. Remember I said, you can't fall in love with a house. You can't fall in love with these players. This is the business. Yeah, you love. I think you can fall in love with a star quarterback and a star coach everybody else like you can fall in love with Mahomes and Andy Reid. I'll give you that one. I think everything else in this league you gotta like. Yeah, this idea that we need to pay both Zach and Pollard and Das getting a ton of money. And are the receivers good after ceedee lamb, come, I don't they don't have it. Michael Gallup can disappear. I like him, but he can disappear. Yeah, all right, final story, this is is a bummer. Ben Simmons. You and I have talked about him privately. M he's really struggling right now. He is on that struggle bus and he you know, he's not even relevant in the NBA right now. Kevin Dury and Kyrie are gone. Simmons has an opportunity to kind of, you know, become a star once again. But Ben Simmons has no idea what his role is with the new look NETS. Here's what he said. Everything's been changing all years, so it's really hard to understand what's going on. Hopefully we can find some rhythm and consistency. It's different, it's a different experience coming off the bench. So whatever the team meets from us, I'm willing to do that. Nobody wants to play with him. K D was recently quoted saying I had to get out of there. I couldn't play with him. This is a lost cause. Darryl Moorey gets Executive of the Decade. Being able to get rid of him, he would have Philadelphia now is viable because he's not there. He is trying to think what you want about Westbrook. Westbrook plays his ars off. He plays hard. He's yeah, Westbrook's got flaws, but he plays hard. Ben's in his own head. He's in different what he wants to be the worst, want to shoot the ball. He's passive. He knows everybody's looking at him and waiting. This guy was an All NBA player in twenty twenty. No, he's a complete bust. He is He is a it's a bust. It doesn't work. It's I can't think of somebody who's fallen this far after beat like he was a top fifteen NBA. People believed I remember Doug Gottlieb told me this basketball people felt he after Lebron he would be he would be the greatest, like one and done guy entering the league like he had that kind of it was a six ten point guards who could defend and was a brilliant passer. He had kind of a Lebron feel like, I mean like he would immediately be an elite defender, an elite passer at like nineteen years old. Frame was ready. But the big red flag early was at LSU. They didn't make the tournament, Like he didn't elevate the play and that's weird. But then he came into the NBA. He was a good all NBA. So that means you're like a top fifteen, top twenty player in the league. He's he's not a top one hundred player right now, Colin, it's coming off to Ben's playing like fourteen minutes a night. Cal Bridges had a nice game last night, Um, Ben Simmons, we knew who had a good game last night. I don't know if you paid attention the Lakers Pelicans buzz Saw came into town. Pelicans buzz Off Zion Zion played right. Oh no, he did not that's right, Zion, right, you guys can be cynical. That's not the show I represent. I represent positivity and optimism on it last half full collegeular basis. Okay, J Well, that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the third lie. Oh my god, New York's already picking on Aaron Rodgers. I will be here to defend Aaron Rodgers. Maybe not. Uh oh oh oh. We got good stuff today that you know that Eagles play they do. People are finally being honest and speaking out about that rugby scrum. What the fourth and one third in one play? You don't want it? People already talking. They're getting rid of that thing. You watch. Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays and noon eastern ninety Empacific. Hi. This is Jay Glazer. And you may know me for the world of football or fighting or even shows like HBO's Ballers. Well you don't know is for my entire life. I have lived in something I refer to as the gray depression anxiety. So now I'm coming out with a new podcast, Unbreakable, a mental health podcast with Jay Glazer, where each week, while we talk about mental health, I hope to describe it, give it words. Listen to Unbreakable with Jay Glazer on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Sunday, the twenty twenty three NASCAR regular season gets underway. It's a great American race. That Daytona five hundred Sunday had two thirty Eastern only on Fox Endy Fox Sports. After I'm gonna ski Sunday, come off the slopes and watch it. I hope you watch it, as I will not be skiing next week. You got to get Will sing. I will that's so strange. I'll be hanging out inside working on some takes. Maybe in an NFL mock draft. Well, okay, I'm okay my taxes. Uh So. The Steelers Cam Hayward an excellent player. He was on a podcast. He does not like that rugby scrum. The Philadelphia Eagles. Now you six or seven times a game that's an automatic first down. I don't necessarily have a problem with anything that's an automatic first down, but the NFL has a history of not wanting things that are automatic. A great example is the pat The pat was automatic like ninety eight percent. The NFL said, that's boring. Let's move the pat back. It's now not automatic. Um, you know they want the kickoffs to mowtly go out of the end zone, but they don't make it too easy to avoid violence. Right, that's that's a lot of injuries on the kickoff, but they don't make it an automatic. There are still returns. It's still a big kick. Pat move it back. We don't want automatic. This is an automatic first down. The NFL has a history on this. They want to keep you in front of the TV set. They don't want things to be easy or you can't defend them. So Cam Hayward was talking about this, this kind of scrum thing the Eagles have found highly effective on his podcast. It's illegal and then they're never free. If you watch it, the old lineman are never set. I'm triggered. Should be changed. Yes, it should be changed. And there's never a given time they hurry up to the ball. No one's ever said they're rolling forward. I have this on tape, we can watch it. I'm always these fourth downs because no, it's always skewed to the offense. I'm just confused why they switched the rule. It used to be a penalty to push you buy or this is like nobody really noticed until the Eagles were like, oh, this is unstoppable. It's not a Philly thing. The Eagles, like a good accountant, found a loophole in the system, and now it's up to the irs, slash the NFL to react to it. This happens all the time in business. It happens all the time in sports. It's not appealing optically ariesthetically, it's ugly. It's rugbyat nobody watches rugbyat nothing against rugby players. But the NHL, remember when they removed the ban on two line passing, why more scoring? They wanted stars. Major League Baseball just got rid of the defensive shift. Why because they want more base runners, more activity, more offense. It was stifling offense. The NBA got rid of the hand check, it was stifling offense. The reality about this it's not pretty. And if you don't put a stop to it by next year, you're gonna have ninety percent of the league, I mean, help the league copied the wildcat snapping a ball to a running back. You're gonna have ninety five percent of the league doing this a half a dozen times a game. And it's not pretty and television pays all the bills. I know, you think you sitting in the stands pays the bills. No, it doesn't. It's TV because they can average out to a higher income for the TV viewers than they can't actual butts in the seats. It's a long story. It's boring, but in the end, TV rules it. That's not good television. The defensive shift not good TV. Since it's been implemented, TV ratings went down. The hand check again, you stifled offense. The NFL's a copycat league. They're always tweaking. They did it with a pat, they did it with a catch. It's ugly. It's gonna be copied. And let's be honest about it. It's too automatic. If you can't stop something, it's not in the spirit of the game. I know, Philadelphi, y'all. You know, the Phillies lose a World Series, the Eagles lose. Everybody's picking on you. You deserve credit. You have found a loophole in the system, and accountants to it. It's what they're paying to do, find loopholes. The good ones can do it, and then the IRS reacts. You know, they even say it in like Olympic sports, the cheaters always beat the testers, and then eventually the testers catch up to the cheaters. This is not cheating, but I don't think it's good in the spirit of the game. Here's another thing I saw this story. I do try to avoid talking about Aaron Rodgers. I do. I make an effort every day not to. But Tike Barber, former New York giant, he's a popular media guy, was talking about Aaron Rodgers coming into New York and potentially playing for the Jets. If he is that sensitive that he gets upset that people, reporters, opinion makers, influencers, whoever, want to talk about him, he is going to struggle in New York, and I don't know if it's the right fit for him. I don't know if I want him in New York. If this is going to be his react to things that don't matter. When you're doing something that feels odd to normal society, which is going to sit into a cabin in the woods for four days and complete century isolation, it's just kind of we're gonna talk about it. I don't know if he'd work in New York or not. He would make the Jets better and so winning in New York, like any city matters if you win. You know, Green Bay is small town America. And a lot of people like Aaron Rodgers because he wins a lot. They didn't like him as much this year because he didn't win as much. If you look at the history of who New Yorkers love, Joe Torrey I wrote a list here, Derek Jeter, Aaron Judge, Mariona Rivera, Mike Messier, Eli Manning. Two things stick out. They're guys. Guys, they're really focused on winning. You don't have huge egos. They're really into winning. And and when they lose, they're terribly upset. New Yorkers want you to care. They want you to win. They want to care. New York puts their arms around small towns. The college Phil Simms went to no longer exists. Mickey Mantle was from rural Oklahoma. Aaron Judge. Most great New York stars come from small towns, and New Yorkers love them. But they love them when they win, and they love them when they're all in a rod. Sometimes d into a rod didn't love him, mellow into the wrong stuff, didn't know us love him. New Yorkers love people who when they win, feel pride and when they lose their pisted and I do think Aaron's a little detached, sometimes comes off as aloof I'm above you. That's not a New York thing New Yorkers. I mean I lived right between New York and Boston, and my wife and I much prefer to go to New York. Feel a real connection there. And I've told the story before. Boston. There's a saying in the New England region called fences make good neighbors. Boston does what they do. They have history. They're not really interested in accepting you in. If you move in the area, it's fine, but they've already got their social circle. Boston people hang out with Boston people even when they're twenty thirty, forty fifty. New Yorkers are different. New Yorkers are different. If you can walk into the city tomorrow and make a better pizza, have a better gym, have a better company, They're all in. Because New York people are from everywhere. They're from Russia, they're from anywhere in the country. They're from Canada. New York is very accepting of people. You gotta be efficient, you gotta win. In sports. They love their winners, but they always have your back once you win. Boston accepts you day one, and then eventually, even if you're great, turns on you. They turned on Manny, they turned on Brady, they turned on Ted Williams. Boston turns on everybody. Bobby Your's about the exception. They you know, if you leave town, they're banging on you. I I think Bobby Your still lives in the area. But New York's different, like they'll they'll be critical when you come, but if you win and you care and you're a you're a New Yorker, they'll defend you forever. My issue with Aaron is he does have that kind of personality and I don't think I'm out of bounce here. He kind of has an Austria. I'm kind of above you. I'm not really part of you. I don't need you. I'm gonna do this in the offseason. It's very off putting, I think to a lot of people. Green Bay has tolerated it because he wins. But you're finding when they didn't get to the playoffs this year, talk radio, the messaging on the internet is much more. We're done with them. So the Jets are not gonna win at the Packers level consistently. Josh Allen Belichick, Miami's got the right coach and weapons. That's a tough division. You can win, but it's a tough division. And if you look at the Messier's and the phil Simms and the Aaron Judge and the Derek Jeters, they're kind of guys. Guys, they're all in. They don't feel they're above anybody else. I mean, Eli Manning is American. You know, the Manning family is American sports royalty. Eli Manning is the most down home, awe shucks regular dude in the world. Did you see the Brian Dable video when the Giants announced him. The Giants put on social media. It's Dable driving up in his big truck. He gets out, he's gruff, he's not like we're in a suit. He's got his cup of coffee. He looks like a man's man. New York Giants fans love Dable. He isn't every man. He appeals to every single person. New York's a big, sophisticated city, but it's really hard working people. They want you to care. They deeply want you to care because they care. The tickets are expensive, the drive of the stadiums are inconvenient. You gotta care, You gotta be all in in New York

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We had lots to talk about so sports in society, but let's stick to sports are always trying to legislate even and fair. Never been a bigger gap between the rich and the poor. You can't go ahead and tax the rich people more. Whatever. My entire life, I've watched this in sports, legislate, take away this, give to that in sports, And yet the Yukon women basketball, Alabama football, New England Patriots, Golden State Warriors have the most impressive dynasties I can recall in the last fifty years. I mean, Warriors have been great for like nine ten years, Patriots twenty years, Yukon women's basketball, how long that thing last. Bama football was the greatest dynasty ever. They are trying all ncuble A baseball. Everybody's trying how many years in a row of the Dodgers won their division. They're not a dynasty because they only have one World Series, But I mean, how many years in a row. You can't legislate even in sports people aren't evenly smart, evenly talented, evenly inspired. You can't do it. Kansas City's a dynasty and they're not going anywhere. They're smarter, they're more talented. I mean, they're very unique. We have not had back to back Super Bowl champs since two thousand and four. They're in a very unique spot. Took them a few years to get it all right. But they don't have any holes in their roster. They have no big impending free agent losses. They get the best coach back and the best arguable defensive coordinator back. Mahomes is young, ascending, doesn't have an ego. They have all sorts of young players, fourth most rookie snaps in the NFL. And next season they get a quirky scheduling break where they get the Bills at home, the Dolphins at home, the Bengals at home, and the Eagles at home. They get a huge scheduling break, so once again they're going to be planned playoff games at Arrowhead. It was different with the Rams. You could kind of see it coming right. McVay, Whitworth, Donald all talking retirement. They pushed all their chips in. They were paying golf and Matt Stafford. You could see an aging roster. They gave up draft capital. You could see it was a little top heavy. Top heavy means in any industry. It could topple the Buccaneers the year before your quarterbacks forty five. It's a weird organization. There's no history of sustained greatness. It was an aging roster and then a bunch of free agents that had to get paid. Kansas City's different. They're different. Tons of rookies who aren't getting paid for years. A quarterback that's the best, a coach that's the best, a defensive coordinator who's seen every offense in the league. Their staffs in a plus the coach plus the quarterback in a plus. The draft capital eleven picks. The GM just found a star running back in the seventh round. They don't have any big free agent dollars that are going to screw them. They actually have a pretty good cap space situation. I don't see this going backwards, and I find the AFC is much easier to predict. In fact, this year in the AFC, I not only picked two divisions right, I got him perfect one through four. It's not because I'm smart. It's a quarterback conference now, I can tell you right now, Buffalo, Cincinnati, Kansas City, and Jacksonville are favored to win next year and should be favored to win. They have star quarterbacks. NFC's wild. It's more rosters over quarterbacks. We know San Francisco and Philly are loaded. But if Jalen Hurts gets hurt this year, he did. Minshaw came in. Gardner Minshett they couldn't win games. So this feels very Golden State to me is that I've got brain power every we where. Without a lot of egos, Mahomes and Steph Curry, you get great, but selfless, not a lot of egos, self deprecating, married kids, and that's where it all starts. You don't have a lot of egos here. I don't send any holes in the roster. Golden State this year has had a little apathy on the defensive end, but you really think the playoffs come, they're gonna be awful. I mean, they've been running this thing back for nine years. Barring any injuries, they'll be really good again. I just think this organization, quarterback, head coach, GM ego. What blew up the Lakers dynasty. You know, if you start looking at what blow stuff up, it's apathy, it's ego. You can't sustain it because a lot of times you have a bad owner or a goofy owner. You look at the Warriors and you look at the Chiefs, it looks the same to me. Here was Patrick Mahomes yesterday in Kansas City at the mic before we start this season, AFC West said we were rebuilding I'll be honest with y'all. Lore rebuilding means not rebuilding. You were world tens before I give it to the main So Travis Kelsey, I just want to let y'all know this is just the beginning. We ain't done yet. By the way, it was cocky. He's six Coors lights in and he's twenty seven years old. He's having fun. You're allowed one day of the year, Tom Brady didn tequila almost fell into the water, almost through the Lombardi Trophy in the water. You gotta have a few Coors lights in the day you win and talk smack. I'll give you that, all right. So um, I don't overreact, but all you Russell Westbrook fan boys. Last night was the first game with Lebron, all the new guys and no Westbrook. Look at the assist numbers, the spacing. They played ten guys, big minutes, flexibility shooters, people willing to set a pick and rebound. Not about themselves. I know, I know, Colin. You don't like Westbrook, don't know him as a guy, don't like him as a half court player. He's a guard that can't shoot, defend, set a pick, handle the ball. Yeah, other than that, he's fantastic. Did you watch him last night? This was a real team, ten deep youth rebounding. When Anthony Davis is engaged, He's a top fifteen player in the league, maybe top eight. Lebron James is still a top six or seven player. That was a real team last night with a real bench, Reeves, shrewder Mote, Bomba, Rui Hachimura. It's like real players. By the way, Lebron didn't even play a lot of minutes. Ruey didn't shoot well either. At Beasley. That was enjoyable to watch. The spacing. It wasn't toxic, It wasn't Lebron dependent. Addition by subtraction is a real thing. That's why the term exists. Guards that can't shoot, defend, set a pick, bad handles hurt teams. There's no reason to pick on Westbrook, but it is a reality of his game. Lebron played his fewest minutes that he has played all season, and yet it was the second or third best I've seen them play. They played one game earlier this year at Milwaukee. They were on fire on a Friday night. This could have been the second third best game they've played. The west is wide wide open, even Golden State, due to injuries, is down a bit, not playing the defense they did. So I mean, listen, I look at the West right now, and I look at the entire NBA, and there's the Big four. These teams should be favored for the final. It's Milwaukee, Boston, Golden State will get it right in Phoenix, I think k D is going to hit immediately. I think they're going to be sensational immediately. Those are the Big four. Then there's a group I would call don't ignore very good Philly, Cleveland, Denver, Memphis Clippers. Are the Lakers capable of getting into that group because you know, health is a factor. Jason Tatum in the Finals war down they were, They were leading that series and had control, and then they weren't. We know that Chris Middleton got hurt last year. Not the same Milwaukee team. Steph Curry's hurt Warriors aren't the same Chris Paul and k D get hurt. A lot of things could happen to that big four. Can the Lakers get into the don't ignore group? I don't know. Lebron played the fewest minutes. They didn't shoot the ball from three very well. Even the free throw line and they look good, great, early, good, late spacing blocks. I mean, you and I know Lebron's still a top five player, and you and I know that Ad when engaged, he was last night's a top ten player. I don't know. Listen to Lebron seemed very optimistic after last night right now. I mean, I like the guys that we have coming in. I mean, it's we'll take some time for us to get to know one another, but I know they played the game at a high level. I feel really good about what we have um brewing. But hey know it's gonna take a lot of a commitment from us going down to stress. So I'll look forward. I just love who are weas able to pick up. Let's look at the Lakers schedule. I see a lot of doubles here. I see the Houston Rockets and a lot of the Bulls, and the Raptors and Orlando Magic and Utah Jazz a couple of times. By that point, Phoenix will be resting Durant. At the end of the season, they played the Clippers and the Suns. Durant and Chris Paul will be resting Kawhi and Paul George will be resting looks like a four or five six game winning streak to close this season. I'm I'm just telling you. You can see good early, you can see it quick. I look pretty good to me. Multiple bodies, defenders, flexible shooters, Lebron not overly Lebron dependent. Last night, A d was even in a good mood. Man good to be in La. Its gonna be a very interesting man in June. J Mac, go ahead, be Senegal, go ahead, stop laughing. I beget hour over the mood for the Lakers after a win over the Pot. I've been banging on them for four years. Yeah. By the way, I love the don't ignore section the Denver Nuggets. Don't ignore them. Number one seed in the West by like five games, number one in the NBA and offensive efficiency. Joker averaging a triple double. He's a center, No big deal. Don't ignore the Denver Nuggets. They're gonna beat the Lakers in the first round. We will have to have a gentleman's bet on the show. I don't know what it would be. Nothing to involve hair this time. But you're putting your money on the Nuggets. Yeah I will. I'll back it up with my money. I think you should bet Creighton again because I don't think that's a chance. Listen, Colin, you really don't ignore Denver, and you love the Lakers. By the way, I forgot how many playoff series for Ruey Hachimura. How about Dangelo Russell? They're very battle tested in the postseason, right, I don't know Ruey's coming off the bench. All I need is fourteen a night from D'Angelo Russell. I don't know. You guys think I'm crazy on this. I saw stuff I haven't seen in three years since the bubble team, shooters, depth, rebounders, picks, spacing. I thought I saw Anthony Davis during a time out last night, texting his real estate agent. Looked for me something in Dallas, Texas or Portland, Oregon. Give me him break. You love spending that time and long checkout lines at the grocery store. You just think I'm a homer. I've been banging on the Lakers for three years. I've been on them for three years. I was encouraged his heck last night. Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays in noon Eastern a Empacific on Fox Sports Radio FS one and The iHeart radio app now entering the No Bull Zone sponsored by Credible Great Rights, None of the Bull. So there's been a lot of talk, a lot of talk about Eric B. Enemy, a great college football player, and I think I voted for Eric B. Enemy for the Heisman when he was at Colorado. I believe I did. I think I did. And now he's an offensive coordinator for the Kansas City Chiefs, the current dynasty in the NFL. But he's not getting interviews and looks for head coaches not as not the kind you'd like. Now there's a story today he's going to interview for the offensive coordinator job for the awful Washington Commander organization and leave Kansas City. So there he will call plays and therefore then he will be qualified to be a head coach a boy. First of all, as a head coach, you do not need to be a great play caller. Brian day Ball did not call plays. He just won Coach of the Year. Nick Seriani gave up play calling he got the Eagles to the Super Bowl. So once you become a coach, I don't need your play calling. You have to be able to spot, seek and find one. None of my bosses at ESPN were broadcasters, and none of my bosses at Fox are broadcasters. They have the ability to watch them, judge talent and then say, I think they're good at that a skill I don't have, let's hire them. They were never broadcasters. Most bosses who have to hire, most CEOs who hire. Steve Jobs was not the great engineer. Steve woosnei Ak was. Jobs was the visionary. Jobs was good with social conflict and figuring things out. He wasn't close to one of the best engineers at Apple. As an NFL head coach, can you build culture, can you inspire? Are you organized? Can you manage other coaches? There's a term in the NFL called walk around coach. Many of the great ones, like Jimmy Johnson, that's what they do. They walk around to units all day, tweaking bad habit, stop that good habit, repeat that. That's what they do. They manage coaches. Nick Saban now overwhelmingly does that. He just coaches coaches, not calling plays. In fact, I would argue calling plays is often a detriment. Now Andy Reid does designs, draws them up. But let me ask you this, where are you going to learn more? Next to greatness with Mahomes and Andy Reid or calling plays for Sam Howell. I guess my point is, why do you have to be a great play caller to be a great coach? Seventy five And I'm throwing that number out. It's probably higher. Seventy five percent of great play callers that become coaches get fired. They think so. It clearly isn't play calling that makes you a great coach. It's humanity, it's leadership. Couldn't you inspire my two qualities to be a great coach? And I don't know if Eric b Enemy has them, but he certainly could. Can he inspire well? And can he hire well? That's what makes a great coach. That's it. Do you inspire and do you hire at a high level? Andy Reid inspires and hires you hear as players, You hear players talk about Andy Reid. That's Andy Reid. That's why we win. And I know he hires well because he had spags and he had by the way, Doug Peterson was there, and if you go look it up, Peterson's sometimes called plays, but Andy draws him up. It's Andy system. He creates him and then occasionally he lets you call him. That's not what it sounds like it is. I don't know if Eric B. Enemy is going to be a great coach. Joe Judge got a head coaching job in the NFL. He an offensive guy or a defensive guy. He's a special teams guy a year and he was completely over his skis. Sounded good. Adam Gase, by the way, there's a great play caller. Players didn't like him. Matt Patricia high IQ aerospace engineer. Players and Detroit didn't like him. He couldn't He couldn't inspire. Adam Gase couldn't inspire. So are you secure enough as a human being to hire people? I always think this is a great quality. Can you hire people who are smarter than you or significantly better than you at many things? That's a good boss. There's the old saying as higher a's and b's higher cs. Is Eric Enemy secure in himself enough that he could go out and say, I don't know that I'm gonna hire that. I think he is. But the idea that you learn more surrounded by Washington and Sam Howell than you learn from Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes and that organization, I don't buy it. We know the history of the NFL. It's one of the spots they're not very good at sometimes oftentimes. But don't tell me you've got to be a great play caller. Eric b Enemy has played the game. He has had to in huge games at times, make big, big calls working with Mahomes. You Phil Jackson, by the way, he didn't invent the triangle that was Tech's winner. What did Phil Jackson do? What was his label? The zen Master? He got Kobe and Shock to get along. Go read the book Three Ring Circus. It's unbelievable how much ko U there was during the Kobe Shack run. I mean every day at practice. He kept him together. Should have won four titles. Karl Malone got hurt. He was this zen master. Steve Kerr, by the way, very similar, learned from Phil Jackson. He's always had a defensive guy of Mike Brown or Ron Adams. You do the defense. He got Steph quarterbacking on the court. You can't tell me b Enemy couldn't be a good head coach. I don't want to hear about the play. Calleague Davil didn't do it. Sarianni gave it up. Was a better coach, Can you inspire well, can you hire Well, I'm gonna guess Eric B Enemy? Can J Mack with the news? No? No, this is the herd line news. The b Enemy one's really interesting. It's a fascinating discuss. Like I didn't hear a final answer. Should he take the Washington you would say no, hold out no, if you listen, Ay, he deserves a chance to be a head coach. But secondly, the reason we're giving I think it's bologny. Listen. I would love if you did call plays at a high level, But the minute you're a head coach like Brian Dable, I don't want you Colin plays. The only thing with the Dable comparison Colin is he was under a defensive head coach in Dermott who was never gonna overrule Dable when it came to an offensive thing with Alan right and Alan came in and was like and then all of a sudden, boom, he's a superstar. That ain't on McDermott, that's on Dable. How much can we attribute to Patrick mahomes greatness to Eric B Enemy? And I think the only answer comes from people inside Casey And it's probably like ninety percent Andy Reid and maybe five percent. I don't know if he's gonna work, but I've watched guys get jobs Freddie Kitchens, Joe Judge. Yeah, but they're going in a year or two. Do you want that? If you're no, But he should at least be given the opportunity, considering he's coming, like Joe Judge, from a dynasty, a legendary coach, and to buy the way the enemy was also, I don't I don't know, as I don't know why I had just done. He was a great college player at Colorado. I remember that he listen a lot of people in the Internet want to make it about you know, he's an African American coach, he's not getting a chance, blah blah blah. He interviewed for five jobs in twenty twenty one, and I looked at those jobs that he had interviewed for. One of them, the coach is going to stay on for sure. Three of them. Those coaches could get fired this year. So the question is the enemy, Do you want to leave and maybe get fired in three years or do you want to wait for all the best opportunity. No, I think I think you want the opportunity. If you're really good at something, you don't think you're gonna get fired. I would take a job for three years and roll the dice. He's an athlete, of course he wants the opportunity. Reid's head coaches like Children's left. Spagnolo left, they had their chance, they failed, they came back. There's now very few great owners. GM's coaches, quarterbacks. There's about six of all of them in the league. And I'm not joking. There's about six great coaches, about six great coordinators, about six great owners. It's just the rules, the real estate rule. There's about ten percent gray, ten percent pretty good, and then it's just stuff, right. Yeah, And so I'm not saying b enemy's gonna crack into the great It's an opportunity question, not a great question. He's just been around so much greatness in a dynasty. By the way, Mike Brown was the defensive Mike Brown in the NBA, they do a better job giving opportunities. Mike Brown was a coach, got fired in Cleveland. He went and coached the Warrior's defense, got another chance. By the way, the Warrior's defense isn't as good this year without Mike Brown, it's gone into the tank. So it's like Mike's getting second chances. My takeaway is, when's Eric get his first? It's tough, all right, Let's go to the Lamar Jackson. His future in Baltimore still kind of murky. No contract extension in sight. Ravens are expected to hand out the franchise tag, but the team did not give any assurances to prospective offensive coordinator candidates that Lamar would be their quarterback in twenty twenty three before they eventually hired Todd Munkin Foxbet has the Ravens the favorite at minus two hundred. So you know, to the layman over, well, we got two hundred bucks to win a hundred. The Jets are after that, followed by Saints, Colts, Dolphins, lurking um. Let me tell you again, let's be clear, all of those twenty three he's staying in Baltimore. Yes, but when you look at all those teams, which one fits better? He fits in all of those. All of those teams would be significantly better with Lamar Jackson. The Jets would be better tomorrow, the Saints would be better tomorrow. Every say for anybody that doubts Lamar Jackson. Go look at the teams on this list right now, every single one would be significant. The Dolphins, can you imagine, I got Waddle, Tyreeche and Lamar The would be a track team. You know who wouldn't be better? Baltimore. They would create it like a six line next year. If you want to know, if a guy's a franchise quarterback, Jets, Saints, Colts, Dolphins, immediately our playoff teams or at least feel like it. He solves multiple issues. Now, let's remember the other side of that coin is once you get him and you are better, Yeah, you've got to pay him, and then in a year or two, you got to start shedding talent, whether it's on the outside, on the in the trenches. Well, just as we saw Patrick Mahomes, they gotta lose some guys. Well, he rebounded quickly because he became an MVP in this league with running back by committee and average receivers. They had good tight ends. They had the kid now that plays Mark Andrews. Yeah, Mark Andrews, but they had the other Hayden Hurst. Yeah, okay, MVP of the league with average receivers and running back by committee and not an offensive coach, You guys can keep doubting Lamar Jackson. Jets get him tomorrow when you wake up tomorrow. If the Jets sign him overnight, what would you feel like. I'm buying massive. I'm buying some futures in the Jets. But also I'm looking at Las Vegas tickets for the Super Bowl next year. And by the way, the Jets would absolutely immediately be in the Buffalo Miami class the second he hires. He gets they're not quite kid. They wouldn't be Kansas City, no, but they So we both think Buffalo's coming down a little bit. Yes, next year? All right, next up? This is comical. The Cowboys obviously they've got big decisions to make this offseason, especially in the backfield. So Tony Pollard, who had that bad injury in the final game of the season, he's an unrestricted free agent. And oh, by the way, Zeke Elliott's contract is scheduled to count sixteen million against the cap. Cowboys legend Emmett Smith believes the team needs to keep both running backs. Here's Emmet Smith. I'm keeping both. I'm a franchise tag Pollard and I may go for a contract restructure with Zeke. But I'm keeping both and the reason why is because we've got to get Pollard back healthy. We need Zeke, we need Malik as well. We need that three headed monster right now. To rotate Malik gives us a chance to get Pollard time to get back healthy again. Now it's possible. But did Zeke Elliott forget this big running back need that They are paying Dak Prescott a ton of money to be their quarterback. Is there any way they could get rid of Zeke's contract or are they trapped? I think they're trapped. My gut tells me Jerry will not let that happen. If I again, I've never spent a second in the Dallas locker room, Isaiah. Everything you read and talk to Isaiah Pacheco. Seventh round, there are running backs place Elijah Mitchell, sixth round, they're running back. Remember for years the Seahawks had that seventh round round of Oklahoma State. He got banged up a little bit, big kid Carson. Yeah, yeah, whatever's name is. But I'm with you. You can find running backs anywhere. But the problem is Jerry has an intimate relate him. Talk to him up all the time. Remember I said, you can't fall in love with a house. You can't fall in love with these players. This is the business. Yeah, you love. I think you can fall in love with a star quarterback and a star coach everybody else like you can fall in love with Mahomes and Andy Reid. I'll give you that one. I think everything else in this league you gotta like. Yeah, this idea that we need to pay both Zach and Pollard and Das getting a ton of money. And are the receivers good after ceedee lamb, come, I don't they don't have it. Michael Gallup can disappear. I like him, but he can disappear. Yeah, all right, final story, this is is a bummer. Ben Simmons. You and I have talked about him privately. M he's really struggling right now. He is on that struggle bus and he you know, he's not even relevant in the NBA right now. Kevin Dury and Kyrie are gone. Simmons has an opportunity to kind of, you know, become a star once again. But Ben Simmons has no idea what his role is with the new look NETS. Here's what he said. Everything's been changing all years, so it's really hard to understand what's going on. Hopefully we can find some rhythm and consistency. It's different, it's a different experience coming off the bench. So whatever the team meets from us, I'm willing to do that. Nobody wants to play with him. K D was recently quoted saying I had to get out of there. I couldn't play with him. This is a lost cause. Darryl Moorey gets Executive of the Decade. Being able to get rid of him, he would have Philadelphia now is viable because he's not there. He is trying to think what you want about Westbrook. Westbrook plays his ars off. He plays hard. He's yeah, Westbrook's got flaws, but he plays hard. Ben's in his own head. He's in different what he wants to be the worst, want to shoot the ball. He's passive. He knows everybody's looking at him and waiting. This guy was an All NBA player in twenty twenty. No, he's a complete bust. He is He is a it's a bust. It doesn't work. It's I can't think of somebody who's fallen this far after beat like he was a top fifteen NBA. People believed I remember Doug Gottlieb told me this basketball people felt he after Lebron he would be he would be the greatest, like one and done guy entering the league like he had that kind of it was a six ten point guards who could defend and was a brilliant passer. He had kind of a Lebron feel like, I mean like he would immediately be an elite defender, an elite passer at like nineteen years old. Frame was ready. But the big red flag early was at LSU. They didn't make the tournament, Like he didn't elevate the play and that's weird. But then he came into the NBA. He was a good all NBA. So that means you're like a top fifteen, top twenty player in the league. He's he's not a top one hundred player right now, Colin, it's coming off to Ben's playing like fourteen minutes a night. Cal Bridges had a nice game last night, Um, Ben Simmons, we knew who had a good game last night. I don't know if you paid attention the Lakers Pelicans buzz Saw came into town. Pelicans buzz Off Zion Zion played right. Oh no, he did not that's right, Zion, right, you guys can be cynical. That's not the show I represent. I represent positivity and optimism on it last half full collegeular basis. Okay, J Well, that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the third lie. Oh my god, New York's already picking on Aaron Rodgers. I will be here to defend Aaron Rodgers. Maybe not. Uh oh oh oh. We got good stuff today that you know that Eagles play they do. People are finally being honest and speaking out about that rugby scrum. What the fourth and one third in one play? You don't want it? People already talking. They're getting rid of that thing. You watch. Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays and noon eastern ninety Empacific. Hi. This is Jay Glazer. And you may know me for the world of football or fighting or even shows like HBO's Ballers. Well you don't know is for my entire life. I have lived in something I refer to as the gray depression anxiety. So now I'm coming out with a new podcast, Unbreakable, a mental health podcast with Jay Glazer, where each week, while we talk about mental health, I hope to describe it, give it words. Listen to Unbreakable with Jay Glazer on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Sunday, the twenty twenty three NASCAR regular season gets underway. It's a great American race. That Daytona five hundred Sunday had two thirty Eastern only on Fox Endy Fox Sports. After I'm gonna ski Sunday, come off the slopes and watch it. I hope you watch it, as I will not be skiing next week. You got to get Will sing. I will that's so strange. I'll be hanging out inside working on some takes. Maybe in an NFL mock draft. Well, okay, I'm okay my taxes. Uh So. The Steelers Cam Hayward an excellent player. He was on a podcast. He does not like that rugby scrum. The Philadelphia Eagles. Now you six or seven times a game that's an automatic first down. I don't necessarily have a problem with anything that's an automatic first down, but the NFL has a history of not wanting things that are automatic. A great example is the pat The pat was automatic like ninety eight percent. The NFL said, that's boring. Let's move the pat back. It's now not automatic. Um, you know they want the kickoffs to mowtly go out of the end zone, but they don't make it too easy to avoid violence. Right, that's that's a lot of injuries on the kickoff, but they don't make it an automatic. There are still returns. It's still a big kick. Pat move it back. We don't want automatic. This is an automatic first down. The NFL has a history on this. They want to keep you in front of the TV set. They don't want things to be easy or you can't defend them. So Cam Hayward was talking about this, this kind of scrum thing the Eagles have found highly effective on his podcast. It's illegal and then they're never free. If you watch it, the old lineman are never set. I'm triggered. Should be changed. Yes, it should be changed. And there's never a given time they hurry up to the ball. No one's ever said they're rolling forward. I have this on tape, we can watch it. I'm always these fourth downs because no, it's always skewed to the offense. I'm just confused why they switched the rule. It used to be a penalty to push you buy or this is like nobody really noticed until the Eagles were like, oh, this is unstoppable. It's not a Philly thing. The Eagles, like a good accountant, found a loophole in the system, and now it's up to the irs, slash the NFL to react to it. This happens all the time in business. It happens all the time in sports. It's not appealing optically ariesthetically, it's ugly. It's rugbyat nobody watches rugbyat nothing against rugby players. But the NHL, remember when they removed the ban on two line passing, why more scoring? They wanted stars. Major League Baseball just got rid of the defensive shift. Why because they want more base runners, more activity, more offense. It was stifling offense. The NBA got rid of the hand check, it was stifling offense. The reality about this it's not pretty. And if you don't put a stop to it by next year, you're gonna have ninety percent of the league, I mean, help the league copied the wildcat snapping a ball to a running back. You're gonna have ninety five percent of the league doing this a half a dozen times a game. And it's not pretty and television pays all the bills. I know, you think you sitting in the stands pays the bills. No, it doesn't. It's TV because they can average out to a higher income for the TV viewers than they can't actual butts in the seats. It's a long story. It's boring, but in the end, TV rules it. That's not good television. The defensive shift not good TV. Since it's been implemented, TV ratings went down. The hand check again, you stifled offense. The NFL's a copycat league. They're always tweaking. They did it with a pat, they did it with a catch. It's ugly. It's gonna be copied. And let's be honest about it. It's too automatic. If you can't stop something, it's not in the spirit of the game. I know, Philadelphi, y'all. You know, the Phillies lose a World Series, the Eagles lose. Everybody's picking on you. You deserve credit. You have found a loophole in the system, and accountants to it. It's what they're paying to do, find loopholes. The good ones can do it, and then the IRS reacts. You know, they even say it in like Olympic sports, the cheaters always beat the testers, and then eventually the testers catch up to the cheaters. This is not cheating, but I don't think it's good in the spirit of the game. Here's another thing I saw this story. I do try to avoid talking about Aaron Rodgers. I do. I make an effort every day not to. But Tike Barber, former New York giant, he's a popular media guy, was talking about Aaron Rodgers coming into New York and potentially playing for the Jets. If he is that sensitive that he gets upset that people, reporters, opinion makers, influencers, whoever, want to talk about him, he is going to struggle in New York, and I don't know if it's the right fit for him. I don't know if I want him in New York. If this is going to be his react to things that don't matter. When you're doing something that feels odd to normal society, which is going to sit into a cabin in the woods for four days and complete century isolation, it's just kind of we're gonna talk about it. I don't know if he'd work in New York or not. He would make the Jets better and so winning in New York, like any city matters if you win. You know, Green Bay is small town America. And a lot of people like Aaron Rodgers because he wins a lot. They didn't like him as much this year because he didn't win as much. If you look at the history of who New Yorkers love, Joe Torrey I wrote a list here, Derek Jeter, Aaron Judge, Mariona Rivera, Mike Messier, Eli Manning. Two things stick out. They're guys. Guys, they're really focused on winning. You don't have huge egos. They're really into winning. And and when they lose, they're terribly upset. New Yorkers want you to care. They want you to win. They want to care. New York puts their arms around small towns. The college Phil Simms went to no longer exists. Mickey Mantle was from rural Oklahoma. Aaron Judge. Most great New York stars come from small towns, and New Yorkers love them. But they love them when they win, and they love them when they're all in a rod. Sometimes d into a rod didn't love him, mellow into the wrong stuff, didn't know us love him. New Yorkers love people who when they win, feel pride and when they lose their pisted and I do think Aaron's a little detached, sometimes comes off as aloof I'm above you. That's not a New York thing New Yorkers. I mean I lived right between New York and Boston, and my wife and I much prefer to go to New York. Feel a real connection there. And I've told the story before. Boston. There's a saying in the New England region called fences make good neighbors. Boston does what they do. They have history. They're not really interested in accepting you in. If you move in the area, it's fine, but they've already got their social circle. Boston people hang out with Boston people even when they're twenty thirty, forty fifty. New Yorkers are different. New Yorkers are different. If you can walk into the city tomorrow and make a better pizza, have a better gym, have a better company, They're all in. Because New York people are from everywhere. They're from Russia, they're from anywhere in the country. They're from Canada. New York is very accepting of people. You gotta be efficient, you gotta win. In sports. They love their winners, but they always have your back once you win. Boston accepts you day one, and then eventually, even if you're great, turns on you. They turned on Manny, they turned on Brady, they turned on Ted Williams. Boston turns on everybody. Bobby Your's about the exception. They you know, if you leave town, they're banging on you. I I think Bobby Your still lives in the area. But New York's different, like they'll they'll be critical when you come, but if you win and you care and you're a you're a New Yorker, they'll defend you forever. My issue with Aaron is he does have that kind of personality and I don't think I'm out of bounce here. He kind of has an Austria. I'm kind of above you. I'm not really part of you. I don't need you. I'm gonna do this in the offseason. It's very off putting, I think to a lot of people. Green Bay has tolerated it because he wins. But you're finding when they didn't get to the playoffs this year, talk radio, the messaging on the internet is much more. We're done with them. So the Jets are not gonna win at the Packers level consistently. Josh Allen Belichick, Miami's got the right coach and weapons. That's a tough division. You can win, but it's a tough division. And if you look at the Messier's and the phil Simms and the Aaron Judge and the Derek Jeters, they're kind of guys. Guys, they're all in. They don't feel they're above anybody else. I mean, Eli Manning is American. You know, the Manning family is American sports royalty. Eli Manning is the most down home, awe shucks regular dude in the world. Did you see the Brian Dable video when the Giants announced him. The Giants put on social media. It's Dable driving up in his big truck. He gets out, he's gruff, he's not like we're in a suit. He's got his cup of coffee. He looks like a man's man. New York Giants fans love Dable. He isn't every man. He appeals to every single person. New York's a big, sophisticated city, but it's really hard working people. They want you to care. They deeply want you to care because they care. The tickets are expensive, the drive of the stadiums are inconvenient. You gotta care, You gotta be all in in New York