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There's a lot of people. You got Ski Week. You got Ski Week. By the way, in California has this thing where. I know it's weird, but it's a bit much. Yeah it is. We have a ski week so kids get out to go skiing. We have a lot of mountains. I'm more excited for spring break, which is right around the corner after Bart's badness. Yes, so I want to talk about Michael Jordan. It's his sixtieth birthdays. He's still like mythical, right, and we always kind of pull apart Lebron and Michael, and I think they're viewed as the two best basketball players ever. You know, centers Kareem had some genetic advantages being that tall, and uh, you know, Bill Russell was part of a dynasty where they just simply had more good players than everybody. He won eleven titles. But I think most people look at Lebron and you know, Michael is the two greatest basketball players. They're the two greatest basketball players I've ever seen, and their careers actually have a lot of similar similarities. They've had four stages, so if you go to stage one for Michael Jordan, they couldn't get the coach right. He eventually fell in love with one coach, Doug Collins, but they had to get rid of him. But they couldn't get the roster right. Took him a while to get the right coach. He won, scoring titles. It was the show off stage. We were witnessing something that Larry Bird couldn't wrap his brain around. He was dropping, but nothing in terms of titles. Lebron's first stage had a coach. He loved Mike Brown. Everybody loves Mike Brown. They couldn't get the roster right. He hadn't misgivings like Michael did about the Bulls owner. Lebron started at the end having misgivings about the Cleveland owner. They got to a finals, swept, couldn't win a title, couldn't get things right Stage two. For both, Stage two, Michael finally gets the great Phil Jackson and the great Scottie Pippen. He gets his Robin, and he gets his coach. He goes on a run, not just scoring, pulling back and giving a little more centerpiece still, but now he's got help. Stage two for Lebron, he finally gets a Hall of Fame coach like Jordan did in Stage two, and his best Robin d Wade. He's not every night having to lead the team like Jordan in Stage two. Although he is clearly the centerpiece, but lots of shooters on the wing, lots of great players around him, including a Pippin for Jordan and o'd wade the great Robbin's ever right. And then stage three, of course, is Michael takes a break and then comes back and that bumpy year losing to Orlando, right. And stage three for Lebron is he moves away from the dynasty and then he goes back to Cleveland. Jordan went back to the NBA. Lebron goes back to Cleveland. That first year they're good. It gets very up at the end, everybody gets hurt as he and Matthew Dellavedova against the Warriors. Michael wins it. The second ears back, Lebron wins it. Second you're in Cleveland, all right, and then you go and then again, very good vibes the second time back for Michael, great vibes for Lebron going back to Cleveland, no longer the villain, there's the letter, it feels wonderful. And then stage four it gets really messy for both the Warriors. The Wizard's situation was just a mess. Teammates didn't like him, and the Lakers situation Lebron didn't like the young kids, got rid of him. Now probably regrets he didn't have Kuzma Anthony Davis. They get a bubble title, but let's be honest about the four or five years here. For Lebron, it's just messy. It's just how many players, how many lineups, how many guys He's bothered by, even Anthony Davis. I was told again last night by somebody close to the Lakers, Lebron a d's not ideal, it's not perfect, it's not great, despite what you may see on a video clip, digital clip here there, and the lesson we learn from both is as great as Lebron and Michael Jordan are. They were at their very best when they had support, an elite head coach and a great robin the entire time. The ownership situation never perfect for Lebron, he and Dan Gilbert issues. Laker ownership right now feels small like the corner store among billionaires, and Michael Jordan, Jerry Reinsdorf is never tight. Jerry Cross the GM never great. Both were at their best with the coach and that teammate, and neither in the end can overcome bad leadership. We pull these guys apart their careers went in stages. There are a lot more similar than we think. MJ's brand continues to thrive, and when Lebron retires in three or four years, his will last for two decades as well or more. So I want to talk about, speaking of Chicago, the Justin Field story. Three days ago, I brought this up, and I was considered ridiculous and ludicrous. Now everybody's talking about it. So there's something called the placebo effect. I read about it a couple days ago. Again, it's pretty well known that you can talk yourself into being sick or getting better more quickly. Studies indicate you've all heard of this. If you take a pill that has no medical advantages, but you think it works to some degree, it does. If you wake up in a bad mood, it's up to you to turn it around or it's going to be a crappy day. Our minds control our health to a strong degree. And so there's always been an understanding. Cold weather is harder to play in for quarterbacks, right but yet Brady Mahomes, Joe Burrow, big Ben often saw it as an advantage. Brady saw it as an advantage that Peyton Manning who played in the warm mes SEC and then in a dome and Indy would have to go to Foxborough. He viewed it as an absolute advantage. There's a clip on the internet we can't use because of licensing where in a snowstorm they have Mahomes on the bench. Mike and he's going on saying, I'm a snow guy. He goes, I love it. I'm just sitting back there. Linebackers can't move. I love planning the snow burrow. Midwest kid always views it as an advantage justin fields from the South Georgia a lot warmer weather. Does not like the cold weather he's talking too. Was it barstool? Yeah, pardon pardon my take podcast? And he talks about how the Chicago weather is really really a bummer and hard to plan. I hope we just get as sold your field I care for in Arles at Hightside. I hope we could have. Don't you know? It can be cold. It can be ten degrees with no win, you're fine. But with that fifteen my prior win, twenty from my prior win, I mean, you can't fight it. Stuff. When it's that cold, you have to bundle up, like put a bunch of layers on and stuff like that in your body's colds so you're not warmed up. So I feel like way slower in that cold weather. It's hard to stay warm in that weather. If you look at Farve and Brady and Bradshaw and Ban and Aaron Rodgers, even the California kid, they all say they view it as an advantage. Brady has won eighty seven percent of his games in cold weather. Mahome's passer rating one hundred eleven, burrows one oh five. They're not seeking comfort. All of them are seeking an edge. It is an edge to play in Chicago. Field sees it as an issue. It's hard. I feel slower. It goes back to the placebo effect. You're talking yourself into this thing not working Like I get it. It's cold. Great quarterbacks are not seeking comfort. They're all seeking an edge. Chicago's an edge. Kid's got a big arm, a big frame. And if you look at fields record in just temperatures under forty, it's awful. Owen seven sixty one percent, completion percentage, passer rating mid eighties. I got news for you justin Chicago's not getting warmer. It's not getting warmer. And and I was thinking about this the Bears. I've never trusted Bears ownership or front offices. The great organizations manipulate the draft. I'll just throw this out to you, and this is part of what I love doing this show, just kind of throwing something out there. So if the Bears called at Lanted tomorrow with the eighth pick and said we're gonna give you Justin Fields, Atlanta has got a star tight end to Star Wars Siever kids from Georgia playing a dome bad division Atlanta. Arthur Blank doesn't want to be awful again, and they don't think Desmond Ritter's the guy I watched them last year. Did you feels it's bigger, stronger, more athletic. There's some wow there. It's mostly run wow. It's almost all run wow, but there's some wow there. So Atlanta says, hometown kid, we'll bring him back, and they give Chicago picks. And now Houston, who may like Bryce Young and Indie, who their owner said loves Bryce Young. We heard his owners say that Chicago goes. So I still got the number one pick, and I just got additional picks. And then you call Indianapolis, and Indie says, we love Bryce Young. That's what their owners said, and they don't want to risk having Houston take the number one. So then Indie gives you picks and all you have to do is move back to four. And if you don't see a huge disadvantage Bryce Young, Will Levis, CJ. Stroud, And in fact, Chicago is cold and windy, and Bryce Young, who played in California and the South, they may view him in Chicago, is not the arm strength or the size they want for durability in that cold, windy weather. They may they're scouting department may like will Levis, they may like CJ. Stroud. So then Indie gives you more picks because they're a dome team and a warm weather conference. They want Bryce Young, get picks out of Atlanta, picks out of Indie, and you're in the number four spot and you're a cold weather team. If you look at the history of cold weather it's big, strong armed guys that win. Even in Chicago, Jay Cutler, Brett Favre, Aaron Rodgers, Joe Flacco, Big Ben, Tom Brady's six five, two twenty five with a very good arm. The Teddy Bridgewater kind of players. They don't. They are not built for that stuff. Big strong arms, even guys that didn't succeed at a high level, Jay Cutler, big arm. You could come completely manipulate this if your Chicago, get picks from Atlanta, get picks from Indie, and still get a guy Will Levis, big arm, smart kid. I don't know. I mean, none of these guys as rookies are going to have their act totally together. They're all going to situations that are difficult. But when you're already talking about you don't like the cold, and you don't like the wind, and I don't run as fast, listen, I don't like it either, But I'm not going in public as a quarterback. It's the placebo effect. It's already in your head. So you know, five days ago, four days ago, when I brought this up, it was outrageous and ridiculous. It's getting discussed on every network for a reason. Their sources now saying people are discussing it for a reason. Chicago needs multiple players, not just an edge rusher. Call Indy manipulate Atlanta feels right to me, feels right to me. A lot of stuff going on today, Kevin Durant spoke. Did not play for the Suns last night, but he spoke, and he will play after the All Star break. Adam Silver is concerned about his league, and what do you know, it appears the NFL is not going to allow that rugby scrum by the Philadelphia Eagles to continue. Will have all that coming up. Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd Weekday said Noon Easter not Ampacific on Fox Sports Radio FS one and the iHeartRadio app. Sometimes I can't figure out why you even argue with me where Colin was right on a Friday. I said yesterday, oh, nothing but pushback this rugby scrum they use in the NFL. The Eagles did, They're not gonna that Thing's not gonna last. Dean Blandino used to work for the league now Fox Sports said the league will address it. They're gonna get rid of it. One of the things I said yesterday is you're gonna have thirty two teams using this six and seven times a game. And Sean Payton sure enough came out yesterday and said, I will absolutely use that thing to death on third and fourth and one. It is absolutely a weight advantage it's an unstoppable play. It's an automatic folks. As they said yesterday, leagues want to get rid of automatics. Automatic equals boring. That's why the NFL moved the pat back. It was too easy. This is too automatic. Nobody's picking on the Philadelphia Eagles. They found a loophole in the quote tax system, and now it's time for the NFL slash irs to close the loophole. Also, smart people, this is where baseball is just dim. The NFL's always been the smartest run league. They get their a TV show, they understand that, and they're willing to make changes quickly. They've changed the catch rule, They've changed different penalties because it hurts the quality of the TV product. You know, you ever go on a long drive on a rural road, you've got to be able to see problems, got to see them before they happen. So a Department of Transportation in America, these long rural roads you go on. We've all been on my to go on one all the time to college Vegas to LA and they have these things on the side of the road. They call them. I wrote it down rumble strips where they put them off to the side. So we don't have an epidemic in this country of thousands of cars flying off the freeway at three and in the morning. Right, But there's no visual stimulation on a long drive in America, on a rural road, and so if somebody dozes off, your car hits them, makes a big noise, it wakes you up. Again. We didn't have an epidemic of this happening, but the Department of Transportations like, you know what, this could be a problem. There's no stimulation here. A lot of people driving on these roads at three or four in the morning. People are weary, they're tired, so they create them. They saw around the corner before it became an epidemic. Right, third and fourth and one are huge plays in football games. You do not want to make those automatics. Quarterback sneak is fine. That's an individual, often a star player, trying to find a little crevice between center and left guard, center and right guard, and they don't always make them. A lot of fourth and one quarterback sneaks don't work. This is a bunch of guys pushing a quarterback forward. It's just pure tonnage. There's nothing aesthetically pleasing it's not creative, it's not clever, and this is a television show. I always Baseball cracks me up, Like, who with a social life or any life wants to sit around for inning eighteen of a baseball game on a Tuesday night. Finally baseball came to terms with we go to extra innings, we start with a man at second. We do not want to play eighteen inning baseball games where there's nine people left in the stadium in Cleveland on a Tuesday. People have lives and a job. It's aesthetically not pleasing. You want more stadiums to be more full. That's why baseball stadiums should be smaller packed. It's like the bar you walk by and you want to go to because there's a vibe. Empty Baseball stadiums for hours in the eighteenth thinning are a bad, bad look. Balls finally figured that out. The NFL's always understood it's a TV show. It's a bad aesthetic. Sean Payton's like, yeah, I'm gonna use that thing six times a game. That's what you'd have. The NFL seeing a potential mess, an optic mess for a TV program, number one TV program in America before it arrives in mass It's the right move. Nobody's picking on Philadelphia. Really, there's nothing out there to stick at the Philadelphia. The Eagles are one of the best draws in the entire National Football League. They really are. The Eagles have a big brand, not only locally but regionally. This a part of that television rating was not just mahomes the Eagles. We've been watching the Philadelphia Eagles play. I have for fifty plus years. Right, good teams, bad teams. You remember all their best players. Nobody's picking on anybody. It's just bad TV and a bad trend. Jmac with the news. No, no turn on the news. This is the herd Line news. We disagree on that one, but reasonable minds can disagree. I like the play. I like anything that's automatic. Give me a layup, like me three point shot from the quarter automatic, Ring it up, baby. Let's get started with the Arizona Cardinals. Their new coach, Jonathan Gannon. Congrats to that guy. I wish best of luck, Good luck, buddy. He's very excited. Colin. He's the one to work with Kyler Murray. Here's what he said about teaming up with his injured quarterback. I have a very specific vision of how I want to play on offense, and the person that comes in here to run the offense is going to understand that everything that we do will be structured around the quarterback position to maximize his skill set. And we have an elite one. Well, all of that is true. You know what I like? Whoa whoa whoa? Kyler is elite, define elite. He's a top ten quarterback in the league. He's very good. You just did your list and he didn't sniff the top ten people. I don't think he was eleven or twelve. He's had a rough last six months. He's been difficult, but he is an elite talent. He's been difficult. Look at how nicer being have all these jobs that all these coaches are taking. The Texans job, in the Carolina job, all these all these jobs everybody's taken. Which job actually has a star at quarterback? Arizona? So it's a challenge, it's an obstacle. But I did see Kyler Murray a couple of days ago. Do you notice this? You pick this up? He put a video out saying I'm working out, So he is aware of the bad Mojoe and the bad PR. So Kyler's like, hey, everybody, I'm working my butt off. I like that self awareness. I like that, so I will see your Oh, this is a job with an elite quarterback, and I will raise you this. Here are the three candidates who are interviewing to the OC job nick this coming week. All Right, the Cleveland Grounds quarterback coach, guy I've never heard of. I didn't even write his name down, all right, Washington Commander's wide receiver coach. Don't know his name either, and the New Orleans Saints runnings back coach. Those are the three physician guys coming into the EUROC Not quite Bryan day Bole or Eric b Enemy or somebody you've heard of. Colin. This is let's just be real. This is not a good job. Nobody. You even said it last thing. Nobody wanted this job. Well, Brian Flores is who I would have hired. Brian Flores reportedly was offered the job and said, no, thank you, I'll go to Minnesota. And for the record, I think he's a fantastic coach Minnesota. On a lateral move right, he's being a defensive coordinator, which he's been before. No, no head coaching job, Yeah, I would have paid Brian whatever it takes. Brian is great, Brian is difficult, and I think he is exactly what Kyler Murray needs. But we've had a lot of these over the course of our lifetime watching football. I would rather have a talent that's needy than no talent. I'm not saying this is a great job. I'm not not say it's a bit of a tire fire. But if you told me I get to hire somebody, they are super talented but they're needy, or somebody that's got no talent, which is about ten of the quarterbacks in the league, not very talented. Everybody loves Mitchell Trubisky, great guy. Everybody loves Taylor Heineke. You know what, I love talent. Errand's difficult. You like ego too. I think it's endemic in sports. Kevin Durant's got an ego. I'll take him ranked the starting quarterbacks in the NFC West next season. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay number one. Stafford's number one, undeniably. Now two is tough. Take your time on this one. No, No. Two's not tough. It's Kyler Murray. It's not even tough. And I would say Stafford concerns me greatly because he won't rework his contract, so they can't fix the old line, and he had a letany of injuries. You're worried about a guy who won't rework his contract when this other guy cried to remove a clause from this contract about homework. So you've got Kyler too ahead of brock Purty slash Trey Lance. Yes, and so Gino Smith? Who was what did he win? Like some awards? I'm the crazy one. You have brock Purty ahead of Kyler Murray going into next season. Yeah, Kyler Murray probably won't play until Halloween at best. Gino Smith might be ahead of Kyler Murray at this point right now, going into next season, you do realize that brock Purty, a seventh round pick with a stacked roster, had elbow surgery and probably will not see the field in September. I think he's out for six months. He's also undefeated in games he started and thrown a pass in the second half. Congratulations. I had to get that because he couldn't finish the last game. Because he's going to be out for six his division flip. Remember last year it was like the best division in football now. It's I'm not a bit of a tire fire. No, no, no, I'm not saying it's not. But our argument here is you're telling me I get a talent that's got drawn. Mama, I got news for you. Big Ben had a lot of drama. Aaron's a lot of drama. Cam was a lot of drama. There's a lot of drama Lamar right now, some drama, Kyler. Big Ben was drama for twenty years. A lot of those coaches the drama had alpha coaches. Mike Tomlin pounces fist. You're listening. John Harbaugh has done a lot of winning. Jonathan Gannett, I'll be honest with you. I don't think Aaron's listening to anybody, and I don't think big Ben listening to anybody. Tom Cam at the end, did you know who was big Ben listening to? He was doing things his way, and Aaron's not listening to anybody. And I mean I again, I'm not I don't want to be I don't want to be positioned here as I think Arizona is a great job. But that kid can play. There's some issues with him, but he can play. Weird how we flipped on Kyler Murray. You're all not all in, but you're maybe maybe I'm just used to dealing with egos and divas. Oh geez, that's a bit harsh. Okay, Next up, Eagles. They lost their OC and their DC to head coaching jobs. Nick Sirianni is not He's not worried. They They've got a lot of talent on staff. You're Sirianni. After losing both coordinators, Shane and Jonathan were successful not only because Shane and Jonathan are good football coaches, but also because they have good assistance and they have good people working with them, and and so I feel like we have a lot of good in house options. Um, which is always going to be where where I start, because you know, that's that's just always kind of been how I've learned of, you know, grooming the people that you have in attempts for when this day happens that you're there, you're ready to go. I think'll be dog on his hat there. I think he's they're going to be fine. But I think it's very very realistic to say they're not going to be as good as next year. So what are they to go from thirteen wins to eleven, ish still in the division. I think it's very hard to lose an elite coordinator. I don't think Shane Steiken right now is on the market again. Things they had some break this year. You said this, You caught this very early. You said it in August when you it was one of your first weeks on the show, and you said, have you looked at Philadelphia schedule? It's just bad quarterback after bad quarterback. And you were right, and their defense was eventually exposed when they faced a good quarterback. So now you're losing your DC, you're losing your OC. Seven defensive starters are free agent, and Kelsey retires. It's not the same old line in the NFC. I don't think them declining fifteen percent stops them from winning a division, and even being the number one seed is very possible. Now. Now, if brock Purty didn't get injured and was going to start all the games, I'd feel differently. Because I talked to somebody last night who met brock Purty recently. He is absolutely convinced he is a long term NFL starter. Confidence, poise, accuracy. He does not think it's lightning in a Bottle. He is convinced that Trey Lance will get better, but Purdy's going to be the quarterback for the next foreseeable future. Aaron's not going there too expensive. Brady retired. Shanahan is absolutely into him. Thought they would have beaten Philadelphia if he was healthy. I'd say the other good news for the Eagles, Colin. The NFC is just devoid of talented matt a lot forty nine Ers, maybe the Packers, maybe the Rams tomorrow. If tomorrow Rogers goes to the AFC. I mean, I could literally say with confidence, San Francisco and Philadelphia are overwhelming favorites. Even Kansas City, as much as I like him, Cincinnati is a handful. I mean, Lamar makes Baltimore dangerous. Buffalo. There's obstacle. Sean Payton, Herbert now has a legit oc. It's so lopsided by the way. For years and years, the NFC was better we do in the NBA. For twenty five years, the Western Conference simply better. Now, I like the teams at the top of the East. It's cyclical, you know. When I was growing up, the Big Ten was the Conference. Now fifteen years it's been the SEC alright, final story Russell Westbrook in the Jazz. They have not agreed to terms on a buyout. He's expected to come to terms and hit free agency here, possibly this weekend. The Clippers have reached out and they seem the most hot for him. Also the Heat, the Bulls, who I don't know what that's all about there like the tenth seed in the East. And the Wizards, who got a nice dub this week with Kyle Kuzuba, also might be interested in Russell Russell Westbrook. If I could play him in the second and third quarters. I'm not gonna make him a starter, and I don't want him late in games. But he is productive, and I think a lot of people see thirty minutes of production, twenty six minutes of production. He's not a guy you want in the floor, in half court situations late. He's not that kind of situational guy you want. But you know, you look around the NBA who can give you twenty eight minutes and sixteen points and assists. He's very productive. He's not good situationally regular season. If I want to get some guys rest and I want somebody to give me twenty seven minutes tonight, Westbrook's fine with it. I just don't want him near near the offense with four and a half to go in a tie game late, I don't want him near the floor. So the Clippers front office goes to Kawahi and Paul George. Hey, guys, we're thinking about bringing in Russell Westbrook. You be Kawhi Leonard. Well, don't. You can't be Kawhi Leonard. He wouldn't say anything. You be Paul George. What's your reaction if I say we're gonna bring in Russell Westbrook, you're Paul George. Well, first of all, Kawhi Leonard wouldn't say anything because he doesn't tie um. I think players like him and players like I don't think the Clippers. I don't think it makes sense. Hey, they have a very strong head coach, so ty Lou can handle anybody. Secondly, we know that Westbrook's not humbled. He just keeps bouncing around. He's still convinced five teams, but he's not five season. You would have thought that would affect the Lakers situation. He still is just who he is. That's fine. So a strong coach, they're fine. You have Kawhi who's nonverbal, So even if it was bothering Kawhi. You'd never know. Paul George is like the vocal leader, but this physically the second and my guests, Paul George would be like, didn't they play? They played together, didn't they play briefly? I mean I think they He left him, so he obviously doesn't love him. But I think Westbrook's one of those guys that players want bad mouth. He's good in the room, he's fun. But I just don't, you know, not everybody is everything. Westbrook has a role. It's off the bench, second and third quarters, given me twenty six minutes. He is highly productive, he's not situationally capable of I don't trust him in the postseason and the half court. I mean, he's a non shooter. So you like if Miami was interested, like Jimmy Butler's not really a shooter, No, I that kills the spacing. I don't. I wouldn't be shocked if Russell Westbrook was not playing basketball, you know, going forward the next three months, Like, I don't, I don't see a logical spot. You know, I was talking to see if you're like one of these Chicago bulls, Like nobody's going to the arena to see Russell Westbrook. That's not a thing. You know. In baseball, personality is muted. If you don't analytically work, nobody wants you. But basketball's always had a soft spot for creative, hyper athletic, fun players who analytically are not great. Um and that's part of basketball and part of why I love basketball. There's an artistry to it. There's a fashion sense to it. There's a style, there's an aesthetic that matters. You say it's crazy. Swag is a thing, absolutely, and so Westbrook will always have fans. He's not a winning player, Zach Levine. I mean not a winning player, but he hay plays above the rim, highly vertical, wild and fun and spectacular. Remember white Chocolate. People phone in love that guy. Jason Boy wasn't a winning player, but he was fun. Baseball Cody Bellinger as great as it looks. Analytics don't work out Dodgers like out, doesn't matter what it looks like. He's great looking kids, got a big looping switt doesn't work. Baseball mute personality. The NBA not only doesn't, it kind of wraps its arm around unique and different. And Westbrooks got a slot in this league, and so I think players the culture in the NBA, they're like, dude, he can play. He can play twenty six minutes tonight. He's a guy's guy. They like him. All right, you could play. I'm not playing lay all right? Jay back with the news. Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the Herdline News. So I just want to read this headline to see you see your reaction. I just want to watch your face. So I'm gonna put this up so I can look at your face. Daniel Jones giant contract to come in at over thirty five million per year. I read that that's not the one you being serious that that's what it says here. That's what it says here, according to Jordan Runn Hope, I got it right. Oh yeah, he I know that guy come in at over thirty five million per season. I've got some thoughts on that. Hey. By the way, any wide receivers clamoring in free agency to get to New York and catch passes from Daniel Jones? Where do they run the wildcat? There all the time? The wing t offense run the wildcat? Come on? Do you love the Jets fan over here taking shots at the playoff Giants. Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays and noon Easter ninety Empacific. Ah, this is Jay Glazer. And you may know me for the world of football or fighting or even shows like HBO's Bawlers. Well you don't know is for my entire life. I have lived in something I refer to as the gray depression anxiety. So now I'm coming out with a new podcast, Unbreakable, a mental health podcast with Jay Glazer where each week, well we talk about mental health. I hope to describe it, give it words. Listen to Unbreakable with Jay Glazer on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Sunday, the two thousand and twenty three NASCAR regular season gets underway with the Great American Race, the Daytona five hundred Sunday at two thirty Eastern only on Fox and the Fox Sports at So the story is interesting. So the New York Giants Daniel Jones his contract is gonna come in it over thirty five million a year. That would make him the ninth highest paid quarterback in the league. Now, I mean it takes your breath away. It's like whooa, whoa, whoa. So I am not defending it, but let me let me put this in context. It will probably end up being like the twelfth or thirteenth highest paid contract because Hurts is going to sign a deal, Burrow's going to sign a deal. They're gonna get a lot more money Herbert Hurts, Burrow, maybe Lamar, so he would be like twelfth to thirteenth highest paid. I think he's about the eighteenth best quarterback in the country in the NFL. I also think two A plus plus prospects are coming in next year, so he could become eighteenth to twentieth within the year. I think Brian Dayboll did a great job. He's in a really tough spot. He didn't get the first three years of cheap Daniel Jones to bring in a bunch of great players. He got, hey, can you be the savior? And then we're gonna need you to be an accountant because he's gonna get really expensive fast. And that's not where Daniel Jones is going to help you out. But because the previous GM butcher the rebuild mostly and because the previous coach was mostly clueless, Dable just had to be a savior. And now immediately he's got to pay a guy who's probably eighteenth best quarterback in the league. And so again, if a guy is paid is the twelfth highest and he's the eighteenth best, it's not the end of the world. For a year. If you could franchise, tag him, hit on some draft picks, that's not the end of the world. The question becomes long term, what do you do? And again, quarterback position. These kids are better sooner. If Bryce Young hits, Caleb Williams hits, Drake May hits more that are more talented than Daniel Jones. Now you go from the seventeenth eighteenth best quarterback to the twenty first and he's paid above middle of the pack. There's only two current ways to get to the Super Bowl, it appears, and we've been watching this for years. You have to have a superstar at quarterback, like a Burrow Mahomes, big time Arms Stafford. Stafford was a number one high school quarterback, number one college quarterback, number one pick. Stafford's a big time guy. Okay, first year in LA wins a super Bowl, right, So that's the way to do it, or to have a guy that's really really really really talented, really really talented, but you get him on the rookie deal, so he's cheap. A Jalen Hurts, a Jared Goff, Well, Jared Goff was a number one quarterback draft pick at a Cow. You know you've got to be good to be number one draft pick at a cow. Even Aaron Rodgers at Cow was like twenty something and so. And Jalen Hurts has blossomed into a real star, outplayed arguably Mahomes and the Super Bowl. That's not who Daniel Jones is. It gives you about fifteen touchdowns a year. So the kiss of death in the NFL for Super Bowls, it doesn't mean you can't win a division. It doesn't mean you can't win a playoff game. The kiss of death for Super Bowls is slightly above average quarterback and you're paying him a lot. Tannehill, Dak, Kirk Cousins, and that's the space at best Daniel Jones is in. Tannehill can move good enough to be a number one seed. Dak. I mean, I know he's a fourth round er. Dak went thirteen and three as a rookie, and I think we all know Kirk Cousins is one of the more accurate throwers. The football on the planet shrinks in big games. But if Daniel Jones and I think the ceiling is kind of dak Tannehill Cousins, the way to win with that is in that first three years the kiss of death out of the Super Bowl window is slightly above average, and paying him a lot can't get there. So if you're paying Daniel Jones thirty five million, I would assume franchise tag for Sae Kwon Barkley or do you let him walk franchise tag running back? Okay, Well, the other problem is the receivers. Kenny Galladay is getting cut. We know that. Well, you gotta hit on a couple of drifts. The receivers. Sterling Shepard is a free agent, Darius Slayton is a free agent. Richie James, who is actually good for them, is a free agent. Now I'd let two of those guys walk. I'd probably keep one. Is it tough offseason for the Giants coming off the playoffs and a playoff victory? Decisions, so let me let me again make it positive Daniel Jones. After the other Stars sign, this contract would be about twelfth highest in the league. Okay, there's been Tannehill I think was the number one cap hit one of the last couple of years. It's not close to that bad. The second thing is the defense is really good and the coaches on the right side of the ball and excellent. So there's some real promising the defense. Because screaded them twice, Well, that's because you're handing the ball after every three and out. So this league is about getting the right positions right. Okay, let's start with this head coach. Offensive Giants have that edge rusher. Giants have that star running back isn't vital, but it helps. Say Quon Barkley have that left tackle. Giants have that. The Giants have an average quarterback. They are not good at all at wide. They're just capable. They don't have a one. I could argue they don't have a two and so they've got elements. If they hit in a receiver, there's no there're a playoff team at the end of the first round. They hit in a receiver, well you have a lot of recipe. Eagles shouldn't quite be as stacked. I think we both agreed. Dallas pulls back slightly and I never trust Washington. So I could argue, if you came back with the same team, just more dynamic at receivers, you're a playoff team in the NFC. So if Daniel Jones is getting thirty five million a year, what is Derek Carr, who we would both agree has been a better quarterback. So wouldn't you rather just pay a little bit more for somebody you trust more in Derek Carr than Daniel Jones. I think they look at Daniel Jones as a big, strong guy who can run if you can. I think the Mara family lived through chaos, and I think they almost look at Daniel Jones and see Eli, who took years to get it right, like year four. I think they look alike. I think he's more athletic than Eli. I think he's coachable. He comes from you know, he's a smart Daniel went to Duke. Eli's super bright. I think they and Eli wasn't always great in New York. They had a lot up and downs. It started ugly, then it was great, it ended ugly. They had bad years even in Eli's prime. And I think the Mara family is taught. They don't want to be the Jets. They don't want chaos. Let me ask you, it's a goal. It's a blue blood football organization, and they believe in the NFC. They can well, they've already seen it. They can be a playoff team, get out of the chaos space in the NFL. Everything lined up for them this year, Yes or no. Ken Daniel Jones elevate wide receivers. I don't believe so. Ken Derek Carr well Javante Adams complained a lot about him this year. I would blame Josh McDaniels. But I like Derek Carr. But I don't see him as the classic mahomes Borough elevator. I don't see that, but I like him. I'm trying to be glass half full if the Eagles, I think the Cowboys are pulling back in the Eagles a little. The Giants hit on three or four picks. I like their GM got better football team. NFC's Wide Open Hour two to Friday next

Thanks for listening to The Herd podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday from twelve to three eastern nine to noon Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and FS one. Find your local station for The Herd at Fox Sports Radio dot com, or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching Herd. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Ah. Here we are last show for a while. I've in Los Angeles. It's The Herd. Wherever you may be, however you may be listening iHeartRadio, Fox Sports Radio FS one, j Mac joining alongside. We're both gonna get a little ski weekend. Your kids doing the ski and I'm doing the ski in nine days to take a breath post super Bowl. This is our final show and there are a lot of things building up. It's going to be slow next weekend. Sports, It's not slow today. Got the Dunk Contest this weekend. I know you're excited. It's been to a couple of those. It's actually in Salt Lake and I'm headed there tomorrow morning. So it was hard to get tickets. There's a lot of people. You got Ski Week. You got Ski Week. By the way, in California has this thing where. I know it's weird, but it's a bit much. Yeah it is. We have a ski week so kids get out to go skiing. We have a lot of mountains. I'm more excited for spring break, which is right around the corner after Bart's badness. Yes, so I want to talk about Michael Jordan. It's his sixtieth birthdays. He's still like mythical, right, and we always kind of pull apart Lebron and Michael, and I think they're viewed as the two best basketball players ever. You know, centers Kareem had some genetic advantages being that tall, and uh, you know, Bill Russell was part of a dynasty where they just simply had more good players than everybody. He won eleven titles. But I think most people look at Lebron and you know, Michael is the two greatest basketball players. They're the two greatest basketball players I've ever seen, and their careers actually have a lot of similar similarities. They've had four stages, so if you go to stage one for Michael Jordan, they couldn't get the coach right. He eventually fell in love with one coach, Doug Collins, but they had to get rid of him. But they couldn't get the roster right. Took him a while to get the right coach. He won, scoring titles. It was the show off stage. We were witnessing something that Larry Bird couldn't wrap his brain around. He was dropping, but nothing in terms of titles. Lebron's first stage had a coach. He loved Mike Brown. Everybody loves Mike Brown. They couldn't get the roster right. He hadn't misgivings like Michael did about the Bulls owner. Lebron started at the end having misgivings about the Cleveland owner. They got to a finals, swept, couldn't win a title, couldn't get things right Stage two. For both, Stage two, Michael finally gets the great Phil Jackson and the great Scottie Pippen. He gets his Robin, and he gets his coach. He goes on a run, not just scoring, pulling back and giving a little more centerpiece still, but now he's got help. Stage two for Lebron, he finally gets a Hall of Fame coach like Jordan did in Stage two, and his best Robin d Wade. He's not every night having to lead the team like Jordan in Stage two. Although he is clearly the centerpiece, but lots of shooters on the wing, lots of great players around him, including a Pippin for Jordan and o'd wade the great Robbin's ever right. And then stage three, of course, is Michael takes a break and then comes back and that bumpy year losing to Orlando, right. And stage three for Lebron is he moves away from the dynasty and then he goes back to Cleveland. Jordan went back to the NBA. Lebron goes back to Cleveland. That first year they're good. It gets very up at the end, everybody gets hurt as he and Matthew Dellavedova against the Warriors. Michael wins it. The second ears back, Lebron wins it. Second you're in Cleveland, all right, and then you go and then again, very good vibes the second time back for Michael, great vibes for Lebron going back to Cleveland, no longer the villain, there's the letter, it feels wonderful. And then stage four it gets really messy for both the Warriors. The Wizard's situation was just a mess. Teammates didn't like him, and the Lakers situation Lebron didn't like the young kids, got rid of him. Now probably regrets he didn't have Kuzma Anthony Davis. They get a bubble title, but let's be honest about the four or five years here. For Lebron, it's just messy. It's just how many players, how many lineups, how many guys He's bothered by, even Anthony Davis. I was told again last night by somebody close to the Lakers, Lebron a d's not ideal, it's not perfect, it's not great, despite what you may see on a video clip, digital clip here there, and the lesson we learn from both is as great as Lebron and Michael Jordan are. They were at their very best when they had support, an elite head coach and a great robin the entire time. The ownership situation never perfect for Lebron, he and Dan Gilbert issues. Laker ownership right now feels small like the corner store among billionaires, and Michael Jordan, Jerry Reinsdorf is never tight. Jerry Cross the GM never great. Both were at their best with the coach and that teammate, and neither in the end can overcome bad leadership. We pull these guys apart their careers went in stages. There are a lot more similar than we think. MJ's brand continues to thrive, and when Lebron retires in three or four years, his will last for two decades as well or more. So I want to talk about, speaking of Chicago, the Justin Field story. Three days ago, I brought this up, and I was considered ridiculous and ludicrous. Now everybody's talking about it. So there's something called the placebo effect. I read about it a couple days ago. Again, it's pretty well known that you can talk yourself into being sick or getting better more quickly. Studies indicate you've all heard of this. If you take a pill that has no medical advantages, but you think it works to some degree, it does. If you wake up in a bad mood, it's up to you to turn it around or it's going to be a crappy day. Our minds control our health to a strong degree. And so there's always been an understanding. Cold weather is harder to play in for quarterbacks, right but yet Brady Mahomes, Joe Burrow, big Ben often saw it as an advantage. Brady saw it as an advantage that Peyton Manning who played in the warm mes SEC and then in a dome and Indy would have to go to Foxborough. He viewed it as an absolute advantage. There's a clip on the internet we can't use because of licensing where in a snowstorm they have Mahomes on the bench. Mike and he's going on saying, I'm a snow guy. He goes, I love it. I'm just sitting back there. Linebackers can't move. I love planning the snow burrow. Midwest kid always views it as an advantage justin fields from the South Georgia a lot warmer weather. Does not like the cold weather he's talking too. Was it barstool? Yeah, pardon pardon my take podcast? And he talks about how the Chicago weather is really really a bummer and hard to plan. I hope we just get as sold your field I care for in Arles at Hightside. I hope we could have. Don't you know? It can be cold. It can be ten degrees with no win, you're fine. But with that fifteen my prior win, twenty from my prior win, I mean, you can't fight it. Stuff. When it's that cold, you have to bundle up, like put a bunch of layers on and stuff like that in your body's colds so you're not warmed up. So I feel like way slower in that cold weather. It's hard to stay warm in that weather. If you look at Farve and Brady and Bradshaw and Ban and Aaron Rodgers, even the California kid, they all say they view it as an advantage. Brady has won eighty seven percent of his games in cold weather. Mahome's passer rating one hundred eleven, burrows one oh five. They're not seeking comfort. All of them are seeking an edge. It is an edge to play in Chicago. Field sees it as an issue. It's hard. I feel slower. It goes back to the placebo effect. You're talking yourself into this thing not working Like I get it. It's cold. Great quarterbacks are not seeking comfort. They're all seeking an edge. Chicago's an edge. Kid's got a big arm, a big frame. And if you look at fields record in just temperatures under forty, it's awful. Owen seven sixty one percent, completion percentage, passer rating mid eighties. I got news for you justin Chicago's not getting warmer. It's not getting warmer. And and I was thinking about this the Bears. I've never trusted Bears ownership or front offices. The great organizations manipulate the draft. I'll just throw this out to you, and this is part of what I love doing this show, just kind of throwing something out there. So if the Bears called at Lanted tomorrow with the eighth pick and said we're gonna give you Justin Fields, Atlanta has got a star tight end to Star Wars Siever kids from Georgia playing a dome bad division Atlanta. Arthur Blank doesn't want to be awful again, and they don't think Desmond Ritter's the guy I watched them last year. Did you feels it's bigger, stronger, more athletic. There's some wow there. It's mostly run wow. It's almost all run wow, but there's some wow there. So Atlanta says, hometown kid, we'll bring him back, and they give Chicago picks. And now Houston, who may like Bryce Young and Indie, who their owner said loves Bryce Young. We heard his owners say that Chicago goes. So I still got the number one pick, and I just got additional picks. And then you call Indianapolis, and Indie says, we love Bryce Young. That's what their owners said, and they don't want to risk having Houston take the number one. So then Indie gives you picks and all you have to do is move back to four. And if you don't see a huge disadvantage Bryce Young, Will Levis, CJ. Stroud, And in fact, Chicago is cold and windy, and Bryce Young, who played in California and the South, they may view him in Chicago, is not the arm strength or the size they want for durability in that cold, windy weather. They may they're scouting department may like will Levis, they may like CJ. Stroud. So then Indie gives you more picks because they're a dome team and a warm weather conference. They want Bryce Young, get picks out of Atlanta, picks out of Indie, and you're in the number four spot and you're a cold weather team. If you look at the history of cold weather it's big, strong armed guys that win. Even in Chicago, Jay Cutler, Brett Favre, Aaron Rodgers, Joe Flacco, Big Ben, Tom Brady's six five, two twenty five with a very good arm. The Teddy Bridgewater kind of players. They don't. They are not built for that stuff. Big strong arms, even guys that didn't succeed at a high level, Jay Cutler, big arm. You could come completely manipulate this if your Chicago, get picks from Atlanta, get picks from Indie, and still get a guy Will Levis, big arm, smart kid. I don't know. I mean, none of these guys as rookies are going to have their act totally together. They're all going to situations that are difficult. But when you're already talking about you don't like the cold, and you don't like the wind, and I don't run as fast, listen, I don't like it either, But I'm not going in public as a quarterback. It's the placebo effect. It's already in your head. So you know, five days ago, four days ago, when I brought this up, it was outrageous and ridiculous. It's getting discussed on every network for a reason. Their sources now saying people are discussing it for a reason. Chicago needs multiple players, not just an edge rusher. Call Indy manipulate Atlanta feels right to me, feels right to me. A lot of stuff going on today, Kevin Durant spoke. Did not play for the Suns last night, but he spoke, and he will play after the All Star break. Adam Silver is concerned about his league, and what do you know, it appears the NFL is not going to allow that rugby scrum by the Philadelphia Eagles to continue. Will have all that coming up. Be sure to catch live editions of the Herd Weekday said Noon Easter not Ampacific on Fox Sports Radio FS one and the iHeartRadio app. Sometimes I can't figure out why you even argue with me where Colin was right on a Friday. I said yesterday, oh, nothing but pushback this rugby scrum they use in the NFL. The Eagles did, They're not gonna that Thing's not gonna last. Dean Blandino used to work for the league now Fox Sports said the league will address it. They're gonna get rid of it. One of the things I said yesterday is you're gonna have thirty two teams using this six and seven times a game. And Sean Payton sure enough came out yesterday and said, I will absolutely use that thing to death on third and fourth and one. It is absolutely a weight advantage it's an unstoppable play. It's an automatic folks. As they said yesterday, leagues want to get rid of automatics. Automatic equals boring. That's why the NFL moved the pat back. It was too easy. This is too automatic. Nobody's picking on the Philadelphia Eagles. They found a loophole in the quote tax system, and now it's time for the NFL slash irs to close the loophole. Also, smart people, this is where baseball is just dim. The NFL's always been the smartest run league. They get their a TV show, they understand that, and they're willing to make changes quickly. They've changed the catch rule, They've changed different penalties because it hurts the quality of the TV product. You know, you ever go on a long drive on a rural road, you've got to be able to see problems, got to see them before they happen. So a Department of Transportation in America, these long rural roads you go on. We've all been on my to go on one all the time to college Vegas to LA and they have these things on the side of the road. They call them. I wrote it down rumble strips where they put them off to the side. So we don't have an epidemic in this country of thousands of cars flying off the freeway at three and in the morning. Right, But there's no visual stimulation on a long drive in America, on a rural road, and so if somebody dozes off, your car hits them, makes a big noise, it wakes you up. Again. We didn't have an epidemic of this happening, but the Department of Transportations like, you know what, this could be a problem. There's no stimulation here. A lot of people driving on these roads at three or four in the morning. People are weary, they're tired, so they create them. They saw around the corner before it became an epidemic. Right, third and fourth and one are huge plays in football games. You do not want to make those automatics. Quarterback sneak is fine. That's an individual, often a star player, trying to find a little crevice between center and left guard, center and right guard, and they don't always make them. A lot of fourth and one quarterback sneaks don't work. This is a bunch of guys pushing a quarterback forward. It's just pure tonnage. There's nothing aesthetically pleasing it's not creative, it's not clever, and this is a television show. I always Baseball cracks me up, Like, who with a social life or any life wants to sit around for inning eighteen of a baseball game on a Tuesday night. Finally baseball came to terms with we go to extra innings, we start with a man at second. We do not want to play eighteen inning baseball games where there's nine people left in the stadium in Cleveland on a Tuesday. People have lives and a job. It's aesthetically not pleasing. You want more stadiums to be more full. That's why baseball stadiums should be smaller packed. It's like the bar you walk by and you want to go to because there's a vibe. Empty Baseball stadiums for hours in the eighteenth thinning are a bad, bad look. Balls finally figured that out. The NFL's always understood it's a TV show. It's a bad aesthetic. Sean Payton's like, yeah, I'm gonna use that thing six times a game. That's what you'd have. The NFL seeing a potential mess, an optic mess for a TV program, number one TV program in America before it arrives in mass It's the right move. Nobody's picking on Philadelphia. Really, there's nothing out there to stick at the Philadelphia. The Eagles are one of the best draws in the entire National Football League. They really are. The Eagles have a big brand, not only locally but regionally. This a part of that television rating was not just mahomes the Eagles. We've been watching the Philadelphia Eagles play. I have for fifty plus years. Right, good teams, bad teams. You remember all their best players. Nobody's picking on anybody. It's just bad TV and a bad trend. Jmac with the news. No, no turn on the news. This is the herd Line news. We disagree on that one, but reasonable minds can disagree. I like the play. I like anything that's automatic. Give me a layup, like me three point shot from the quarter automatic, Ring it up, baby. Let's get started with the Arizona Cardinals. Their new coach, Jonathan Gannon. Congrats to that guy. I wish best of luck, Good luck, buddy. He's very excited. Colin. He's the one to work with Kyler Murray. Here's what he said about teaming up with his injured quarterback. I have a very specific vision of how I want to play on offense, and the person that comes in here to run the offense is going to understand that everything that we do will be structured around the quarterback position to maximize his skill set. And we have an elite one. Well, all of that is true. You know what I like? Whoa whoa whoa? Kyler is elite, define elite. He's a top ten quarterback in the league. He's very good. You just did your list and he didn't sniff the top ten people. I don't think he was eleven or twelve. He's had a rough last six months. He's been difficult, but he is an elite talent. He's been difficult. Look at how nicer being have all these jobs that all these coaches are taking. The Texans job, in the Carolina job, all these all these jobs everybody's taken. Which job actually has a star at quarterback? Arizona? So it's a challenge, it's an obstacle. But I did see Kyler Murray a couple of days ago. Do you notice this? You pick this up? He put a video out saying I'm working out, So he is aware of the bad Mojoe and the bad PR. So Kyler's like, hey, everybody, I'm working my butt off. I like that self awareness. I like that, so I will see your Oh, this is a job with an elite quarterback, and I will raise you this. Here are the three candidates who are interviewing to the OC job nick this coming week. All Right, the Cleveland Grounds quarterback coach, guy I've never heard of. I didn't even write his name down, all right, Washington Commander's wide receiver coach. Don't know his name either, and the New Orleans Saints runnings back coach. Those are the three physician guys coming into the EUROC Not quite Bryan day Bole or Eric b Enemy or somebody you've heard of. Colin. This is let's just be real. This is not a good job. Nobody. You even said it last thing. Nobody wanted this job. Well, Brian Flores is who I would have hired. Brian Flores reportedly was offered the job and said, no, thank you, I'll go to Minnesota. And for the record, I think he's a fantastic coach Minnesota. On a lateral move right, he's being a defensive coordinator, which he's been before. No, no head coaching job, Yeah, I would have paid Brian whatever it takes. Brian is great, Brian is difficult, and I think he is exactly what Kyler Murray needs. But we've had a lot of these over the course of our lifetime watching football. I would rather have a talent that's needy than no talent. I'm not saying this is a great job. I'm not not say it's a bit of a tire fire. But if you told me I get to hire somebody, they are super talented but they're needy, or somebody that's got no talent, which is about ten of the quarterbacks in the league, not very talented. Everybody loves Mitchell Trubisky, great guy. Everybody loves Taylor Heineke. You know what, I love talent. Errand's difficult. You like ego too. I think it's endemic in sports. Kevin Durant's got an ego. I'll take him ranked the starting quarterbacks in the NFC West next season. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay number one. Stafford's number one, undeniably. Now two is tough. Take your time on this one. No, No. Two's not tough. It's Kyler Murray. It's not even tough. And I would say Stafford concerns me greatly because he won't rework his contract, so they can't fix the old line, and he had a letany of injuries. You're worried about a guy who won't rework his contract when this other guy cried to remove a clause from this contract about homework. So you've got Kyler too ahead of brock Purty slash Trey Lance. Yes, and so Gino Smith? Who was what did he win? Like some awards? I'm the crazy one. You have brock Purty ahead of Kyler Murray going into next season. Yeah, Kyler Murray probably won't play until Halloween at best. Gino Smith might be ahead of Kyler Murray at this point right now, going into next season, you do realize that brock Purty, a seventh round pick with a stacked roster, had elbow surgery and probably will not see the field in September. I think he's out for six months. He's also undefeated in games he started and thrown a pass in the second half. Congratulations. I had to get that because he couldn't finish the last game. Because he's going to be out for six his division flip. Remember last year it was like the best division in football now. It's I'm not a bit of a tire fire. No, no, no, I'm not saying it's not. But our argument here is you're telling me I get a talent that's got drawn. Mama, I got news for you. Big Ben had a lot of drama. Aaron's a lot of drama. Cam was a lot of drama. There's a lot of drama Lamar right now, some drama, Kyler. Big Ben was drama for twenty years. A lot of those coaches the drama had alpha coaches. Mike Tomlin pounces fist. You're listening. John Harbaugh has done a lot of winning. Jonathan Gannett, I'll be honest with you. I don't think Aaron's listening to anybody, and I don't think big Ben listening to anybody. Tom Cam at the end, did you know who was big Ben listening to? He was doing things his way, and Aaron's not listening to anybody. And I mean I again, I'm not I don't want to be I don't want to be positioned here as I think Arizona is a great job. But that kid can play. There's some issues with him, but he can play. Weird how we flipped on Kyler Murray. You're all not all in, but you're maybe maybe I'm just used to dealing with egos and divas. Oh geez, that's a bit harsh. Okay, Next up, Eagles. They lost their OC and their DC to head coaching jobs. Nick Sirianni is not He's not worried. They They've got a lot of talent on staff. You're Sirianni. After losing both coordinators, Shane and Jonathan were successful not only because Shane and Jonathan are good football coaches, but also because they have good assistance and they have good people working with them, and and so I feel like we have a lot of good in house options. Um, which is always going to be where where I start, because you know, that's that's just always kind of been how I've learned of, you know, grooming the people that you have in attempts for when this day happens that you're there, you're ready to go. I think'll be dog on his hat there. I think he's they're going to be fine. But I think it's very very realistic to say they're not going to be as good as next year. So what are they to go from thirteen wins to eleven, ish still in the division. I think it's very hard to lose an elite coordinator. I don't think Shane Steiken right now is on the market again. Things they had some break this year. You said this, You caught this very early. You said it in August when you it was one of your first weeks on the show, and you said, have you looked at Philadelphia schedule? It's just bad quarterback after bad quarterback. And you were right, and their defense was eventually exposed when they faced a good quarterback. So now you're losing your DC, you're losing your OC. Seven defensive starters are free agent, and Kelsey retires. It's not the same old line in the NFC. I don't think them declining fifteen percent stops them from winning a division, and even being the number one seed is very possible. Now. Now, if brock Purty didn't get injured and was going to start all the games, I'd feel differently. Because I talked to somebody last night who met brock Purty recently. He is absolutely convinced he is a long term NFL starter. Confidence, poise, accuracy. He does not think it's lightning in a Bottle. He is convinced that Trey Lance will get better, but Purdy's going to be the quarterback for the next foreseeable future. Aaron's not going there too expensive. Brady retired. Shanahan is absolutely into him. Thought they would have beaten Philadelphia if he was healthy. I'd say the other good news for the Eagles, Colin. The NFC is just devoid of talented matt a lot forty nine Ers, maybe the Packers, maybe the Rams tomorrow. If tomorrow Rogers goes to the AFC. I mean, I could literally say with confidence, San Francisco and Philadelphia are overwhelming favorites. Even Kansas City, as much as I like him, Cincinnati is a handful. I mean, Lamar makes Baltimore dangerous. Buffalo. There's obstacle. Sean Payton, Herbert now has a legit oc. It's so lopsided by the way. For years and years, the NFC was better we do in the NBA. For twenty five years, the Western Conference simply better. Now, I like the teams at the top of the East. It's cyclical, you know. When I was growing up, the Big Ten was the Conference. Now fifteen years it's been the SEC alright, final story Russell Westbrook in the Jazz. They have not agreed to terms on a buyout. He's expected to come to terms and hit free agency here, possibly this weekend. The Clippers have reached out and they seem the most hot for him. Also the Heat, the Bulls, who I don't know what that's all about there like the tenth seed in the East. And the Wizards, who got a nice dub this week with Kyle Kuzuba, also might be interested in Russell Russell Westbrook. If I could play him in the second and third quarters. I'm not gonna make him a starter, and I don't want him late in games. But he is productive, and I think a lot of people see thirty minutes of production, twenty six minutes of production. He's not a guy you want in the floor, in half court situations late. He's not that kind of situational guy you want. But you know, you look around the NBA who can give you twenty eight minutes and sixteen points and assists. He's very productive. He's not good situationally regular season. If I want to get some guys rest and I want somebody to give me twenty seven minutes tonight, Westbrook's fine with it. I just don't want him near near the offense with four and a half to go in a tie game late, I don't want him near the floor. So the Clippers front office goes to Kawahi and Paul George. Hey, guys, we're thinking about bringing in Russell Westbrook. You be Kawhi Leonard. Well, don't. You can't be Kawhi Leonard. He wouldn't say anything. You be Paul George. What's your reaction if I say we're gonna bring in Russell Westbrook, you're Paul George. Well, first of all, Kawhi Leonard wouldn't say anything because he doesn't tie um. I think players like him and players like I don't think the Clippers. I don't think it makes sense. Hey, they have a very strong head coach, so ty Lou can handle anybody. Secondly, we know that Westbrook's not humbled. He just keeps bouncing around. He's still convinced five teams, but he's not five season. You would have thought that would affect the Lakers situation. He still is just who he is. That's fine. So a strong coach, they're fine. You have Kawhi who's nonverbal, So even if it was bothering Kawhi. You'd never know. Paul George is like the vocal leader, but this physically the second and my guests, Paul George would be like, didn't they play? They played together, didn't they play briefly? I mean I think they He left him, so he obviously doesn't love him. But I think Westbrook's one of those guys that players want bad mouth. He's good in the room, he's fun. But I just don't, you know, not everybody is everything. Westbrook has a role. It's off the bench, second and third quarters, given me twenty six minutes. He is highly productive, he's not situationally capable of I don't trust him in the postseason and the half court. I mean, he's a non shooter. So you like if Miami was interested, like Jimmy Butler's not really a shooter, No, I that kills the spacing. I don't. I wouldn't be shocked if Russell Westbrook was not playing basketball, you know, going forward the next three months, Like, I don't, I don't see a logical spot. You know, I was talking to see if you're like one of these Chicago bulls, Like nobody's going to the arena to see Russell Westbrook. That's not a thing. You know. In baseball, personality is muted. If you don't analytically work, nobody wants you. But basketball's always had a soft spot for creative, hyper athletic, fun players who analytically are not great. Um and that's part of basketball and part of why I love basketball. There's an artistry to it. There's a fashion sense to it. There's a style, there's an aesthetic that matters. You say it's crazy. Swag is a thing, absolutely, and so Westbrook will always have fans. He's not a winning player, Zach Levine. I mean not a winning player, but he hay plays above the rim, highly vertical, wild and fun and spectacular. Remember white Chocolate. People phone in love that guy. Jason Boy wasn't a winning player, but he was fun. Baseball Cody Bellinger as great as it looks. Analytics don't work out Dodgers like out, doesn't matter what it looks like. He's great looking kids, got a big looping switt doesn't work. Baseball mute personality. The NBA not only doesn't, it kind of wraps its arm around unique and different. And Westbrooks got a slot in this league, and so I think players the culture in the NBA, they're like, dude, he can play. He can play twenty six minutes tonight. He's a guy's guy. They like him. All right, you could play. I'm not playing lay all right? Jay back with the news. Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the Herdline News. So I just want to read this headline to see you see your reaction. I just want to watch your face. So I'm gonna put this up so I can look at your face. Daniel Jones giant contract to come in at over thirty five million per year. I read that that's not the one you being serious that that's what it says here. That's what it says here, according to Jordan Runn Hope, I got it right. Oh yeah, he I know that guy come in at over thirty five million per season. I've got some thoughts on that. Hey. By the way, any wide receivers clamoring in free agency to get to New York and catch passes from Daniel Jones? Where do they run the wildcat? There all the time? The wing t offense run the wildcat? Come on? Do you love the Jets fan over here taking shots at the playoff Giants. 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That would make him the ninth highest paid quarterback in the league. Now, I mean it takes your breath away. It's like whooa, whoa, whoa. So I am not defending it, but let me let me put this in context. It will probably end up being like the twelfth or thirteenth highest paid contract because Hurts is going to sign a deal, Burrow's going to sign a deal. They're gonna get a lot more money Herbert Hurts, Burrow, maybe Lamar, so he would be like twelfth to thirteenth highest paid. I think he's about the eighteenth best quarterback in the country in the NFL. I also think two A plus plus prospects are coming in next year, so he could become eighteenth to twentieth within the year. I think Brian Dayboll did a great job. He's in a really tough spot. He didn't get the first three years of cheap Daniel Jones to bring in a bunch of great players. He got, hey, can you be the savior? And then we're gonna need you to be an accountant because he's gonna get really expensive fast. And that's not where Daniel Jones is going to help you out. But because the previous GM butcher the rebuild mostly and because the previous coach was mostly clueless, Dable just had to be a savior. And now immediately he's got to pay a guy who's probably eighteenth best quarterback in the league. And so again, if a guy is paid is the twelfth highest and he's the eighteenth best, it's not the end of the world. For a year. If you could franchise, tag him, hit on some draft picks, that's not the end of the world. The question becomes long term, what do you do? And again, quarterback position. These kids are better sooner. If Bryce Young hits, Caleb Williams hits, Drake May hits more that are more talented than Daniel Jones. Now you go from the seventeenth eighteenth best quarterback to the twenty first and he's paid above middle of the pack. There's only two current ways to get to the Super Bowl, it appears, and we've been watching this for years. You have to have a superstar at quarterback, like a Burrow Mahomes, big time Arms Stafford. Stafford was a number one high school quarterback, number one college quarterback, number one pick. Stafford's a big time guy. Okay, first year in LA wins a super Bowl, right, So that's the way to do it, or to have a guy that's really really really really talented, really really talented, but you get him on the rookie deal, so he's cheap. A Jalen Hurts, a Jared Goff, Well, Jared Goff was a number one quarterback draft pick at a Cow. You know you've got to be good to be number one draft pick at a cow. Even Aaron Rodgers at Cow was like twenty something and so. And Jalen Hurts has blossomed into a real star, outplayed arguably Mahomes and the Super Bowl. That's not who Daniel Jones is. It gives you about fifteen touchdowns a year. So the kiss of death in the NFL for Super Bowls, it doesn't mean you can't win a division. It doesn't mean you can't win a playoff game. The kiss of death for Super Bowls is slightly above average quarterback and you're paying him a lot. Tannehill, Dak, Kirk Cousins, and that's the space at best Daniel Jones is in. Tannehill can move good enough to be a number one seed. Dak. I mean, I know he's a fourth round er. Dak went thirteen and three as a rookie, and I think we all know Kirk Cousins is one of the more accurate throwers. The football on the planet shrinks in big games. But if Daniel Jones and I think the ceiling is kind of dak Tannehill Cousins, the way to win with that is in that first three years the kiss of death out of the Super Bowl window is slightly above average, and paying him a lot can't get there. So if you're paying Daniel Jones thirty five million, I would assume franchise tag for Sae Kwon Barkley or do you let him walk franchise tag running back? Okay, Well, the other problem is the receivers. Kenny Galladay is getting cut. We know that. Well, you gotta hit on a couple of drifts. The receivers. Sterling Shepard is a free agent, Darius Slayton is a free agent. Richie James, who is actually good for them, is a free agent. Now I'd let two of those guys walk. I'd probably keep one. Is it tough offseason for the Giants coming off the playoffs and a playoff victory? Decisions, so let me let me again make it positive Daniel Jones. After the other Stars sign, this contract would be about twelfth highest in the league. Okay, there's been Tannehill I think was the number one cap hit one of the last couple of years. It's not close to that bad. The second thing is the defense is really good and the coaches on the right side of the ball and excellent. So there's some real promising the defense. Because screaded them twice, Well, that's because you're handing the ball after every three and out. So this league is about getting the right positions right. Okay, let's start with this head coach. Offensive Giants have that edge rusher. Giants have that star running back isn't vital, but it helps. Say Quon Barkley have that left tackle. Giants have that. The Giants have an average quarterback. They are not good at all at wide. They're just capable. They don't have a one. I could argue they don't have a two and so they've got elements. If they hit in a receiver, there's no there're a playoff team at the end of the first round. They hit in a receiver, well you have a lot of recipe. Eagles shouldn't quite be as stacked. I think we both agreed. Dallas pulls back slightly and I never trust Washington. So I could argue, if you came back with the same team, just more dynamic at receivers, you're a playoff team in the NFC. So if Daniel Jones is getting thirty five million a year, what is Derek Carr, who we would both agree has been a better quarterback. So wouldn't you rather just pay a little bit more for somebody you trust more in Derek Carr than Daniel Jones. I think they look at Daniel Jones as a big, strong guy who can run if you can. I think the Mara family lived through chaos, and I think they almost look at Daniel Jones and see Eli, who took years to get it right, like year four. I think they look alike. I think he's more athletic than Eli. I think he's coachable. He comes from you know, he's a smart Daniel went to Duke. Eli's super bright. I think they and Eli wasn't always great in New York. They had a lot up and downs. It started ugly, then it was great, it ended ugly. They had bad years even in Eli's prime. And I think the Mara family is taught. They don't want to be the Jets. They don't want chaos. Let me ask you, it's a goal. It's a blue blood football organization, and they believe in the NFC. They can well, they've already seen it. They can be a playoff team, get out of the chaos space in the NFL. Everything lined up for them this year, Yes or no. Ken Daniel Jones elevate wide receivers. I don't believe so. Ken Derek Carr well Javante Adams complained a lot about him this year. I would blame Josh McDaniels. But I like Derek Carr. But I don't see him as the classic mahomes Borough elevator. I don't see that, but I like him. I'm trying to be glass half full if the Eagles, I think the Cowboys are pulling back in the Eagles a little. The Giants hit on three or four picks. I like their GM got better football team. NFC's Wide Open Hour two to Friday next