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The problem, of course, is the Yankee separated financially from everybody, and at the time the Red Sox did so they just go buy the best players. Now, it feels like the Dodgers, the Astros, the Braves, the Yankees, the Mats, they've separated. So baseball, if there's a great player out there, it feels like there's four or five teams have a shot. Then there was the NBA. You know this, so for the off season was often better than the season. But the truth is, although we did have sort of a tunnel of mobility, it does feel like a lot of the great players like Jannis, they just Damon Lillard. They want to stay home. Yeah, the NFL has become the hot stove plus the NBA, plus young GM's star quarterbacks. There's a lot of stuff going on now. Very exciting time, Colin. Listen, there are some coaching rumors. You're gonna get too shortly. There's kind of stunning to me. What's going on around the league's just stunning. I don't want to talk about the Jets this early in the show. I don't want to get down with this, all right, the search for the OC, I don't want to talk about that. Okay, this is a guy trsh Rick Stroud. No, Rick Well worked in Tampa. The Bucks have fired Byron Leftwich, their offensive coordinator, and five offensive assistants two on defenses. They're gonna get let go all right? What does that mean? That is Tampa's public plead to Tom Brady to stay in Tampa. So Tampa right now is selling Tom Brady on number one. Gazelle lives with the kids in Miami. You want to go play with the Niners and Raiders thirty two hundred miles away. Miami's keeping two. According to the reports from Adam Schefter. By the way, Ryan Jensen comes back at center, Tristan Worthshack Mason. Three of our five guys are Pro bowlers on the old line. We just had bad injuries. So I was told a week ago from somebody close to Brady that the lack of details on the coaching staff, the offensive coaching staff, drove Brady nuts too sloppy, too often. So now the Buccaneers go public, go public, leak at This is them saying Tom, we hear you and we want you back. Remember remember this. The AFC now is so deep at quarterback. It's Mahomes, it's Burrow, it's Lamar, Deshaun Watson's going to be back, Josh Allen. Does Brady really want to go over to the Raiders? Herbert. There's Tampa now is selling Tom on. We have a lot, a lot to offer. We'll clean up the coaching mess. For the record, in twenty three years in the league, it is the first time an offensive coordinator of Tom Brady has been fired. So this is sort of twenty three years, this is a first. This is a drastic measure. Brady's also forty six years old. The division is awful. It's virtually guaranteed to be a home field playoff game with a chance if you play well to get a buy. So there's no guarantees in the AFC. The Bucks are in dire need of a running game. You can do that in the draft. You can find great running backs in the fifth, sixth, seventh round. So what Brady basically is now, he's the oldest kid at summer camp and he just needs some new counselors, people who know how to set up the archery range and know where the kayak paddles are. Like, he just needs some help with counselors. He'll probably live with Todd Bowles. But I believe this is the word is out. They want Tom to see. It will fire left, which will fire the staff. We'll get you somebody else here comes Ryan Jensen, Tristan were of Shack Mason. The O line's good. This is a plea to get Tom Brady back. That is my guest this morning. And I was told a week ago by somebody close to Tom the coaching their lack of details, sloppiness drove him nuts. He probably will at first choice on coordinator. All right now. The second story, speaking of stars, a report by a Denver reporter that Mike Cliss Sean Payton was impressed with the Bronchos during his interview Monday. I can confirm that I went to dinner with Sean. He was and the Bronchos he is their number one candidate. So let's talk about this. Let's talk about this. There's a lot of things that we know make Denver a good job. First of all, the defense is good, so he didn't have to clean up both sides of the ball. They got a lot of talent on defense, a lot of talent, some of it young. They're not even paying yet, so they've drafted well, we know that to be true. That's good. We also know that the Bradley Chubb trade got them a first round pick back, which they may have to give up to the Saints to get Sean Payton. But in the building in Denver that's viewed as a steal. They get a first round pick for Chubb who was no longer productive. So that we know the defense is good. Also, the number one unit you have to clean up. Everybody agrees with offensive line. They have a good left tackle, one guard is okay. They got to go in free agency in the draft and they haven't clean it up. The other thing we know that's good. They have a star running back that got hurt. He returns, So you've got a good defense. You have a very clear area you have to clean up. The Chargers cleaned up their old line in one year. Free agency and draft. You can clean it up. They have a star running back that returns and excellent weapons on the outside. There's a lot of good to this job. Here's one of the things that isn't being talked about. So Sean Payton came to Fox to do television and he really likes it and he's really good at it. Have you ever noticed this with Fox? I'll just use Fox as an example. Look at the people at Fox do in the NFL. Michael Strahand, where did he play New York Giants, blue Blood Terry Bradshaw, Pittsburgh Stee Jimmy Johnson coach the Dallas Cowboys when Troy Aikman was here, Dallas Cowboys. You don't want to go coach in Carolina and disappear, right, you want to stay prominent. The Denver Broncos. I don't think people out east quite get this. It's a huge brand after the forty nine Ers, after the forty nine Ers, the most popular NFL team Denver West is the Broncos. And if you coach the Broncos, you got Patrick Mahomes. Television games Sunday Night Football, CBS, Primetime, Fox, Thursday Night Football. You get two games with Mahomes a year and two games with Herbert. And the Raiders still have, despite their lack of success, a very strong brand domestically, a very strong brand, especially Midwest West. And so Peyton's not going to disappear. He's going to be in big games. They have a clear issue that everybody agrees with O line. They have an excellent defense, and they have accumulated a first round pick they'll give back to New Orleans to get Sean. So anytime you take over a business, they've got problems, They've got a clear issue a line. Now let's get to the Russell Wilson piece. And this is substantial, is that? And I talked to Sean about this, and some of this I'll convey, some I won't. But the reality with Russell Wilson, most people understand the problem with Russell right now. He's too isolated. He's got you know, he's got this chiropractor and this thrown coach in his own office. And though it doesn't bother me, there is a sense, and it's well reported and well documented now that Russell's a little isolated from a lot of the young players, young receivers on the team. And they're gonna get younger because they're gonna have to pay some of these defensive guys in Denver, right they're good, They're gonna have to pay him. So the defense over the next four years is going to be expensive and older. They're gonna fix the offense by drafting it. So this is going to be a very young offense. And Russell's aging as a player and he's getting a little cringey and lack self awareness, and they've got to get him out of this isolation. Tunnel with him in cr They've got to be part of the group. Tom Brady for years and years did this. He from music to technology. Tom stayed young in the building and connectable and relatable. So they believe in Denver. Sean can fix it. Sean I know can fix it. And Russell Wilson has contacted Sean legally by the way, you know, through channels. He wants Sean Payton. He needs fixing. He knows he needs fixing. So when I look at this situation, it's fairly clear. Great defense, right, richest owners in the league, both impressed with each other. Solve the offensive line, free agency in the draft, and can Sean fix Russ I believe the answers yes. And the thing that's not talked about is it Denver's very attractive because Sean is good at TV. He likes So if he coaches for six to seven years and decides to pimpot back to football, you're not in Carolina. You disappear. Look who the network's put on every week. Pack They want the Steelers to be good, the Cowboys, the Packers, the Niners. This network is dying for the Bears to be relevant. You know how happy people are at Fox. Now we've got the Niners, the Cowboys, the Eagles, and the Giants. Do you know how happy we are at Fox. We had huge concerns this year, and I talked about him on the air. You start ended up with small market teams and teams like your Carolinas that disappear not good for us. We like the Niners, we like back in the Cowboys, we like the Eagles, we like the Giants. So you don't disappear in Denver when you're facing Mahomes twice a year, the Raiders twice a year, Herbert twice a year. It's a big job. Elway one of the most popular players in league history there for fifteen years. Denver's big. It's a big brand. It's a big job. It's Mahomes, it's Herbert. You're in television games. Very exciting potential. I am rooting for Sean not to take it because I like him on my show. Selfishly, I hope he doesn't go. But but the Russell components interesting. Some of this stuff I'm not going to get into because I don't want to, you know, break any trust here, but there's it is a solvable piece Russell has and this has all been reported by multiple people. Russ now feels isolated from some of the younger players, and Denver's gonna get younger because this defense, they're not giving up Patrick's or ten. They're not giving up guys like that. They got four or five guys on defense. They're paying them and they're giving them long contracts. So the defense is going to be older and more expensive over time, and the offense is going to be young. You gotta relate to the young guys. And right now, Russell's got a little bit of problem there. That's a little barrier he's got. He's gotta kind of not beat the mansion all the time with a beautiful wife, the Bentley, you know, the personal doctors. You gotta get out of that space and connect with people. I think at this point, if they get Sean Payton, the Broncos go in that bucket with the Lions and Steelers as buy offsea and teams, the three arrow pointing up. Well, every year in this league, seven new playoff teams, and there's always a team I picked this year. I think you picked the Jags. I picked the Vikings as the as the teams that come closest to doubling their wins, So we were both right. You were more right. So your team, like I think, did double their wins. What both had to do with good coaches, right, you upgraded Minnesota Doug Peterson's massive up offensive coaches. So it would have been it would have been ridiculous a year ago to say Minnesota is gonna win the division going away. They did. Jacksonville will win because after Urban it was a mess. Offensive coaches fixed the culture immediately. So Denver one how many games this year? Five foot They had a double digit win total in Vegas of the season, so they won five games. Raise your hand if you think getting that running back back Sean Payton five becomes ten. Denver's your Jacksonville, Denver is your Minnesota. That's the easiest. I mean, if you and I can go two for two on this, there's a reason you can see signs brilliant offensive coach, You've already got some components, a talented quarterback who had a coach that didn't kind of know what he was doing. And be honest, it Urbans a college coach, not a pro coach. Mike Zimmer defensive coach, not an offensive coach. It's an Offensive League. So this Denver stuff is very interesting. Let's stress though, they must get this head coaching thing right because as you outlined this Russell Wilson, it's issue, not a fracture, but the issues in that locker room they could bubble up even bigger if they don't land a veteran coach like Sean Payton and smooth things over. Yeah. I remember when I used to work at the other place. I thought this was fascinating. ESPN. You were assigned offices unlike the fourth and the fifth floor, and it was based on your longevity at the company in your title. And I always thought that's kind of weird. Like the corner office. People, that's the best because you get the you get the corner office, the two windows, fourth and fifth floor. You gotta look at the trees. It's beautiful. And the reason they do that is because not to fight, not to create these little skirmishes on who gets the good office. It's based on title. You're the company, and so you think it's silly that you know, Russell Wilson's got his own office. Who cares? People care like I wouldn't. But that kind of stuff. You bring your own doctor. You've got your own massage person, you got your corner office. It creates resentment, especially when it's all over the news that you have the biggest house in Denver and you're driving a Bentley and you got this this sport. I mean, what do we talk about with Aaron Rodgers. Embrace the young receivers, go out with them, hang with them, golf with them. Davante Adams left. He didn't feel there was a connection. So Russell's got he's got to start connecting with his young teammates. There you go. So Sean Payton likes them, according to these journalists, and they like Sean. I can confirm, I can confirm one of those. Yeah, he's interested, he likes them. He also likes Fox. He likes me. Frankly, he likes coming on the show. That's that's also me as well. I think he's a fan of my kind of near me um, not quite a three wood from me, but close enough, all right. Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays in noon Easter nine a Empacific on Fox Sports Radio FS one and the iHeart Radio app. Yeah, you're now entering Noble's Own sponsored by Credible Great Rates None of the Bulls. So, um, this is pretty predictable. So the Niners play the Cowboys, UM divisional playoffs, favored by over a field goal. The kid they gave up a bunch of first round picks for some picks for Trey Lance posted a cryptic Instagram message immediately after Tennessee hired their general manager from the Niners organizational Ran Carthon, and Trey Lance went Instagram and he's got his fingers crossed as if insinuating that Tennessee that could use a more athletic young quarterback would consider going and getting Trey Lance. So this stuff is predictable. Four things have happened in the NFL in the last decade. More and more rules have been built for offense. What does that mean? Quarterbacks and offensive coaches have become in gold bars incredibly valuable. I mean, look at the AFC shock Mahomes, Burrow, Alan, Trevor Lawrence in their prime. You know, top ten picks get used to that for a decade. The third thing is general managers now know to win and keep their job, they've got to get the offensive coach, and they've got to get a quarterback. And four people are reaching for guys that really aren't first round quarterbacks, just in the last few years. Trey Lance, the guy only had a handful of ledge games. Zach Wilson tiny from BYU. Baker Mayfield was not that athletic and not very big. Number one pick. It's to reach. Josh Rosen, Dwayne Haskins, Mitch Trubisky was a complete reach. Daniel Jones at six. I know everybody loves the Viking performance. It's a reach. Kenny Pikett was viewed as a third round pick when I talked to a Super Bowl winning general manager late second, early third. He dropped to late first and they played pretty good at the end of the year. It's not viewed as a first round talent. Sam Darneld, you could argue, although Darnold was athletic and big and wasn't already viewed as a reach, it didn't work. But you're getting a lot of these guys. They're smaller, they're not that athletic, they weren't that great in college. They didn't have it, they had scarcity of games, and everybody's reaching on quarterbacks now. The key in this league is admitting when you're wrong and moving off. Philadelphia is the great advance example, So they took Carson Wentz from an FCS school, big strong kid, but didn't play against great competition, and they traded up to get him, and then his backup won a Super Bowl, and the locker room the rumors are people like Nick Foles more than Carson. So then they paid him, and then they quickly bailed on him and got Jalen Hurts. And right now the Eagles are the number one seed in the NFC. Why because they admit they made a mistake and they moved off it. It's okay, Trey Lance is good enough to play in this league somewhere, maybe be a starter, but this offense and this coach, he doesn't fit. It's why the rumors that he wanted Mac Jones Kyle Shanahan didn't make sense. They do make sense because Max, the distributor of the football, will not run out of the play. And it all makes sense. So they need Chris Paul more than Steph Curry. They don't need a shopmaker at quarterback. This get the ball to the right people. And also, if you think of what you gave up, they're all sunken costs. It's already been used. Pick has been used. All you got left is that will first round pick that Denver now has. You're kind of passed it. And the other thing is brock Purty because he's a seventh round pick. The last guy taken is free for three more years. So you say, oh, we got burned on Trey Lance. Yes, but you're getting the most value of any NFL team from your other quarterback. Nobody's gonna pay less for a quarterback in the National Football League for the next three years in San Francisco forty nine ers and you're not paying Trey much. Just gave up sunken costs. So just move off Trey Lance. It's okay. Ship him somewhere, try to get a third or a fourth round pick. You'll get it. You'll get some draft capital back. The mistake in this league is as it's become more offensive, quarterbacks are more valuable. There's more reaches and more whiffs, and a lot of bad whiffs, Guys that don't even look close to a first round pick, like Zach Wilson, and for most of his career Baker Mayfield. You watch Burrow and Mahomes and Alan, you watch Baker. He then looked like a first round pick. You're not big enough, not strong enough, doesn't have an arm, don't have athletic ability. So it's okay, move on, sunken cost. You're getting a freebee out of brock Purty, who, by the way, is better athletically than the Niners thought. So the whole thing up. But we love treys athletic trays. A power runner and a power arm not the right fit. It's okay. Go about fifteen of these in the last five years. Kind of misses on quarterbacks. It's okay, move off at get another one. Jmack with the news. No, no turn on the news. This is the herd Line News. All right, We're gonna go right back to the Niners. Colin brock Purty obviously been playing great since he took over as the starter, undefeated so far, looking to keep that street going against Dallas GM John Lynch was asked about what has impressed him about Purty. Here's what he's had to say. I think just the poise, the presence, the pressure on that position in this league is into myths, it really is. And I think one thing that we saw from day one, he wasn't going to be phased. I think the area that probably is surprised, as you saw some running ability in college, but I didn't know he's this good athlete. He's a very good at His ability to move on the field and create and extend that has been, you know, surprising for us. I can't say that we saw that, I saw a good athlete. I did not see this, and so he's been tremendous for us. This is a really interesting point. So I can see people watching or listening to our show think, how could you not see how athletic he is. I'm going to give you two other examples. Justin Herbert, his coach, because they didn't have a capable backup at Oregon, wouldn't let him move. Herbert goes to the Rose Bowl, his last college game. Mario crystal Ball says, okay, y know, man, do your thing. I had two gms that were on the field. They were like, we never saw that. Justin Herbert, c J. Stroud, Yes, okay. Ohio State didn't have a guy ready that could compete with the big boys, so they protect acted CJ. They get to the Georgia game and they're like, we can't beat Georgia unless we unlease CJ. Strout. None of us have seen that CJ. Strout, brock Purty. Look how bad Iowa State is without him. The program didn't have any quarterback in the building that was nearly as gifted. So they protect him, some of the offenses, get rid of it, distribute. Then he comes to the NFL and guys, I'm a really good athlete. CJ. Strout, justin Herbert. It needs college programs if you have a star quarterback. It's very difficult at Oregon to have a star behind him. At Iowa State, even at Ohio State, they don't have a bunch of NFL quarterbacks. And so this is something that's happening more and more where these young quarterbacks are finally eventually allowed to use their athleticism and it's much greater than all the film shows out of college. And to the point about poise that Lynch talked about, since he became the starter, fourteen touchdowns, two picks, and Colin, it's gonna come down to turnovers. Dallas led the league in takeaways with thirty three. They flipped that game against Tampa with the interception in the end zone. So my question, do you do you think Purdie finally slips up because he has not since he's come in. I don't know if he's at even out of fumble No, But I think Kyle Shanahan looks at those numbers and says, what you did, Let's not lose the game to Dallas. I think they compress the game plan. They take a little more out of Brock's hands. It's a better pass rush than Seattle. Sealla's got a terrible pass rush. Now Dallas has a very good pass rush. So Kyle's gonna restrict and shrink the game plans, take it out of Purdie's hands slightly. Because Seattle's a bad defense. Dallas a great name. Do you remember what happened in the playoff game last year? Garoppolo struggled. His interception opened the door, but the run game was dominant. They had like one hundred and sixty nine yards on the ground. They were leading that game twenty three seven. Colin I talked about it on my podcast today. Dallas had one hundred and eighty four yards with ten minutes left in that playoff game at home against San Franz. Do we think it's going to be different all of a sudden, or is Purty gonna make a mistake? Like Garoppolo and open the game. I think San Francisco views this they're the better team, they're at home. We just can't lose the game, and that would be pretty with a mistakes. So I think that's where the number comes from. In Vegas, it's gonna be a lower scoring game. San Francisco will clearly feel like the better team, but it ends up twenty four twenty ish. They're not where you lose this game. If you're the Niners, is Brock running around lets, You're not gonna lose this game on personnel. But this do you remember Gardner Minshew when he went into Dallas like five weeks ago. They were dominating that game up and down the field, and then they had three turnovers unlucky handoff Minshew over the middle. As long as Purtty doesn't do that, I think the Niners of the side. I finally bet this game last night at three and a half. Some of the other books I know we see three and a half on the screen have had four in Vegas, so I think we're headed to four. Next up, Cincinnati Bengals, colin your guy Joe Borrow going into the Divisional round matchup against the Bills as an underdog Buffalo. According to Fox Bet, it's at five and a half. Okay, that's going up remembers three and a half four earlier this week. But Joe Burrow does not think his team is at a disadvantage. After practice yesterday, said he never feels like an underdog. Cullin the Bengals last two seasons as they rode underdog sixteen and four against the spread. Would Joe Burrow Yeah, If Cincinnati's offensive line was intact, I think they blow out Buffalo, and Buffalo blow out. I think they dominate the game. I think they're the only team that matches up player to player with Kansas City. So why is this number going up to five? Because the old line's a mess, and that's it's literally changed every Mahomes got blown out in the Super Bowl when he missed both tackles. You can only do so much. So if it was against a Tampa team with a nasty defensive front, well, Buffalo's defensive front is nasty. Well, their linebackers are great. They've got a pretty good edge presence. My takeaway is that's why I kept saying all week. If Kappa played and I'm missing two starters, one interior line, one tackle. I feel like Cincinnati could pull it out. You're missing three. It's probably a Buffalo game. I don't want to go over the top here, but Colin, you just said the Bengals would blow out Buffalo. Do you think there's pressure on McDermott in this game? Absolutely? Okay. I think the one underplayed story in this one. McDermott a defensive uru. So you better show up against the line missing three starters. Yeah. And the other thing is Cincinnati's been to a Super Bowl and Kansas said he's been to it and one we're all waiting for Buffalo to move to the next level. So the pressures on Buffalo all weekend. So what happens when a defensive coach sees his quarterback making a lot of mistakes? He starts to what, Hey, we gotta reign in the offense, Dorcy, I know you're interviewing out there. Got to dial back the offense. I don't know, Colin. I feel like like Cincinnati. I like Cincinnati. There Amaruno, I believe he's the defensive coordinator. Ye second half, he's been lights out. He confused Mahomes in that AFC Championship he would rush three drop eight. You think I'm crazy to say this. If Cincinnati was healthy offensive line, they'd have the better a line, they'd have the better quarterback, they'd have the more consistent run game. I think they have a better pass game with Higgins Boyd Chase. By the way, Davis is kind of hit and miss. I like him, but he disappears is Gabriel David, he'd kind of vanished. The Bengals secondary is a bit of a weakness of the line. It was an Eli Apple that got torched by DeMarcus Robinson. Hui. He would even make the Bengals starting lineup. So I think we're in lockstep here. Picks coming tomorrow, right four, My blazing five's done for the year. Yes, so we hit fifty five percent, but I'm gonna do a blazing four tomorrow, blazing for I feel good about it. I like my sides. I already made it, already got my pick all the games. I think like them all. Last week, I was very nervous. I switched one in the last hour and that hits. Yeah, Mike will I thought you were crazy for that. But let's go to the final story. And I wanted to chew up a lot of time, so we can buzz through this one quickly, because it just annoys the hell out of me. The Jets are looking for a new offensive coordinator. Former Broncos head coach Nathaniel Hackett is a candidate. How you feel about that? The Jets reportedly met with him on Wednesday. Hackett and Salo were both assistants with the Jags in twenty fifteen and twenty sixteen. Hey, you feel about that? For being completely honest? Yeah, I think Salo is doing his guy a favor. Hackett is I mean, no, nobody's touching this guy, so he's throwing him a bone and say, oh, let's bring in Hackett for an interview. Let's make it look like, Hey, this guy's not totally toasting the league. Let's do him a solid. They're not gonna hire him. Hell no, if they do. What I mean, what are we doing at quarterback? Do you think anybody's gonna want to come Jimmy Garoppolo, Derek Cart You think they're coming to work with Nathaniel Hackett, who may have just ruined Russell Wilson. No way, Hey, we need to salvage Jack Wilson. Let's bring on Hackett. Yeah, that guy called a great offense in Denver. Listen, I'm too fired up. I gotta I gotta rate it in. Um So it was it Frank Reich or Nathaniel Hackett Collin? What do we? I love Frank. It's a guy doing a buddy of favor. It happens all the time. Yeah, people in the media industry. Solid luck, you do a solid Yeah, it's nice. Yeah. Jmack with the news, Well that's the news. I love the third Lie and I and I Joy was such an irra irrational Miami Heat fan. That was hysterical for me to watch. And you are so crazy. Happy birthday to Joy two days ago, the same birthday as my wife. And I didn't say it on the air of such a jerk, and then but I called, and then I called Joy, I'm sorry, And then you are such an irrational Jets fan. Is I have not that I'm cynical, but I've been doing this so long. It's all produced to me. People don't come to me all the time, grocery store. Who's your favorite team? And I'm like the one of the most drama. I don't care. Just give me drama and tire fires. I don't care. Give me a tire fire on the four oh five. Anything that gets attention is fun. It's good for revenue rating. I don't care, but I do love. I do miss loving something as much as Joy loves the heat and you love the Jets. I am a little jealous of that now. I've got a little bit of that with the USC football a little bit. But like the two lane loss didn't affect me. And so it's like, I'm not you like you are. Literally the weekend is ruined. No, that is not true. Oh you are not listen. There are some mornings when I come in excited about Jets are gonna make the hurt hierarchy and you you snubbed them like you did, also did, but it bothers you when they poop their pants against Seattle. Yeah it bothered, but you know I had some money on the game. Whatever. But um, yeah I don't. I'm not irrational, Like they're not listening the comments going on in my life. I got direct League basketball team. We just took down the defending chances. We're better than the Jets, bottom line. Like, I get excited about a lot of stuff, coaching my kids in sports, and it's a compliment. Is never give that up because it I used to work. I didn't work with Mike Greenberg, but he was in ESPN. He was a Jets fan and he was literally inconsolable after they lost. He was just and he has a great family and the kids. It's okay. I miss that part of it where I don't have a team that I'm literally throwing a shoe at the television. And I think it's a great quality that you should never give. So never change. I thought that was like a big like a shot at hey. Never change everybody. You gotta change, you gotta adapt. Everybody should have three percent of irrational with their sports. I mean, so what's your three percent of the USC? But he but I know Chip Kelly well and like him, so I mean I don't want to. I don't root against anybody. When Lincoln Riley goes to the Jets in three years, I will be furious. Why would you give your career of Jets ownership mess? He's not going to the Jets. That's not happening. Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd week Days and Nun Easter nine, a Empacific folly Fosco here with Tony Fosco. Yo. As you all know, we're the host of the number one rated show in all the sports talk, the Folly and Tony Fosco Shop Numero Oh no, yeah, And we know why millions of people tune in every week. They want to hear us talk sports, not on idiot guests who think they know more about sports than we go. He listened to these dummies about this is the worst thing. He's still the shop. You don't know ball. 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So apparently I don't follow it, but there's some website that tracks how often I talk packers and negatively about Aaron Rodgers. So this is day thirty nine in a row. So Aaron had a quote on a YouTube show with Pat McAfee, this is classic. I don't know if I want to come back. You know, it's about the guys that I rely on, like Mercedes Lewis. By the way, friend of the show, nobody throws shade at Mercedes Lewis on this show. He goes, I want to I want to still play with Randall Cobbs of the world, Alan Lazard, Bobby Tanyan, David Baktiar. Yet the problem is that's half of your offense, and your offense was twenty fourth in the red zone and seventeenth in scoring. Your offense is weak and outside of baktri those are not considered elite players, but they are like unrestricted free agents, meaning somebody could get an offer outside of the building and you'd have to overpay for Alan Lazard. So Aaron's becoming Lebron without you know, the titles. There's a reason to movie Studio gives a multitude of concessions to Tom Cruise. He wants this. This this because because Top Gun made one point four billion dollars. There is a reason that even the great pat Riley gave concessions to Lebron James. They got the four straight finals one two. Concessions are for the greats of the great A movie studio gives you, you know, they give you a car points on the back end. You're Tom Cruise, the last remaining true superstar movie star. Maybe Hanks get it, maybe Denzel gets it, Ryan Gosling. Not a lot, but you get something for the concession. The Green Bay offense was the third most dynamic in their own division. What am I getting for the concessions? Okay, where's the payoff? This is why I'd moved to Jordan Love. I've said this, you can finish second or third in a division with Jordan Love and I can get draft capital. So remember years ago, Aaron was really really upset when Green Bay let go of Jake Kumero at wide receiver. Oh, Aaron through a tizzy thing. That guy's got seven catches in three years. Aaron doesn't know personnel. Aaron should stay out of personnel. It's not Green Bay's job to make Aaron comfortable. He's become like he's become meet the parents, old and crusty and doesn't let anybody in his circle of trust. He's telling the package, you gotta keep this guy, this guy, this guy, this guy, this guy, meaning you'll probably have to overpay for him. Meaning they're half the offense, and outside of Bactieri, they're not elite. And I love Mercedes Lewis as a blocking tight end. I like Alan Lazard as a four, maybe a three, But Aaron wants these concessions. In my takeaways, what do I get for it? You're twenty fourth in the red zone. That's with Aaron Jones with a powerback with the fourth highest rated OH line. You're twenty fourth in the red zone. Dallas has won your seventeenth in scoring. What do I get for the concessions. It's crazy town. So yesterday I was reading something I thought it was interesting on the interweb and we were talking about this. Ryan glass Spiegel is a media critic for the New York Post. He's very active on Twitter, very relatable guy, and he brought up the point and I didn't see what the result was, but it's an interesting question. Wouldn't you rather have this morning Aaron's career or Eli Mannings? Now my immediate reaction is, Baseball's about stats, Basketball's about flair. Football is about winning championships. So I'd rather have Eli Manning's career. He's got two super Bowls over Brady and Belichick too, the most iconic Froze ever, Mario Manningham and David Tyree. Now he's a five hundred quarterback. But there's a lot of guys that have won a singular Super Bowl, Trent Dilford, Brad Johnson, Bob Greasy. When I was a kid, there's a lot of guys that have won Super Bowls. They're not great. You get to two super Bowls. Peyton, Brady, Montana, Ben Stabach, Eli Manning, I'm sure I missed somebody. Farve's got one, Elway I think he always got two. The class of two super Bowls. That is a that is the ultimate VIP club in the most important position in America's most popular sport is the two plus super Bowl club. Aaron's not close to one. He's got one, He's not even close to two. And now he's demanding I want my C plus tight end, my number three receiver, my number four receiver, my blocking tight end. I gotta have those guys back. What do I get for the concessions, because I'll tell you right now, offensively, you're not as good as Minnesota or Detroit next year. And Detroit's got I think two first and two seconds and a better role line going forward, inexpensive and great. So it's not a shot at Aaron. But if you want can and I get concessions, Tom Cruise gets some lebron and his prime gets them. There's no question I would give Yannis concessions right now. There's there's about three guys in every mahomes. I'll make concessions. You know, Joe Burrow and Alan very close to a lot of concessions. I'm willing to do that, Tom Cruise, Denzel Gosling, you know, whoever whoever's moving the needle. I get it. You're twenty fourth in the red zone. Your offense is third best in your DEVI you're seventeenth in scoring. What am I getting? That's why, By the way, the Lakers won't give up picks to get Lebron helped. Their takeaway is okay, your body now does not give us eighty two games a year. You're having a stupendous season. But are we going to give up our future when you may not be part of it because of your age. We're gonna need those picks because in three years you're gone. We're not going to give up all those picks. If Lebron was nine years younger, you give up those draft picks today for the Lakers. But the Lakers are saying, we're not good now, you're gonna leave in three years. How do we build for later? We need draft capital and where even if you trade those picks and got a couple of guys, Lakers, aren't I mean in a half court playoffs setting Westbrook's complete liability as a half court player. Ad can't stay healthy And the truth is Lebron's playing out of his mind. But there's a chance he'll miss games by the end of the season because he has the last three years. He's an older player. Okay, can I bring up a point against Eli Manning? So Karen in his late thirties? Yeah, you know what Eli was doing in his late thirties. Absolutely nothing when he was thirty six. They went three and twelve when he was thirty seven, five and eleven when he was thirty eight. He got pulled after a few games or injured whatever. Played four games when he was thirty eight years old. Aaron Rodgers got an MVP award last year. In his late thirties, Aaron Rodgers had a better career unequivocally than Eli Manning. Not a better career. What would you want? I want to be in the two rings club. There's like seven eight guys in the history of the sport. A lot of guys have won a Super Bowl. Okay, so let me take it a step further. Eli Manning or Dan Marino who has no rings? Eli Manning? Is that a difficult one? Our two nexts

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The problem, of course, is the Yankee separated financially from everybody, and at the time the Red Sox did so they just go buy the best players. Now, it feels like the Dodgers, the Astros, the Braves, the Yankees, the Mats, they've separated. So baseball, if there's a great player out there, it feels like there's four or five teams have a shot. Then there was the NBA. You know this, so for the off season was often better than the season. But the truth is, although we did have sort of a tunnel of mobility, it does feel like a lot of the great players like Jannis, they just Damon Lillard. They want to stay home. Yeah, the NFL has become the hot stove plus the NBA, plus young GM's star quarterbacks. There's a lot of stuff going on now. Very exciting time, Colin. Listen, there are some coaching rumors. You're gonna get too shortly. There's kind of stunning to me. What's going on around the league's just stunning. I don't want to talk about the Jets this early in the show. I don't want to get down with this, all right, the search for the OC, I don't want to talk about that. Okay, this is a guy trsh Rick Stroud. No, Rick Well worked in Tampa. The Bucks have fired Byron Leftwich, their offensive coordinator, and five offensive assistants two on defenses. They're gonna get let go all right? What does that mean? That is Tampa's public plead to Tom Brady to stay in Tampa. So Tampa right now is selling Tom Brady on number one. Gazelle lives with the kids in Miami. You want to go play with the Niners and Raiders thirty two hundred miles away. Miami's keeping two. According to the reports from Adam Schefter. By the way, Ryan Jensen comes back at center, Tristan Worthshack Mason. Three of our five guys are Pro bowlers on the old line. We just had bad injuries. So I was told a week ago from somebody close to Brady that the lack of details on the coaching staff, the offensive coaching staff, drove Brady nuts too sloppy, too often. So now the Buccaneers go public, go public, leak at This is them saying Tom, we hear you and we want you back. Remember remember this. The AFC now is so deep at quarterback. It's Mahomes, it's Burrow, it's Lamar, Deshaun Watson's going to be back, Josh Allen. Does Brady really want to go over to the Raiders? Herbert. There's Tampa now is selling Tom on. We have a lot, a lot to offer. We'll clean up the coaching mess. For the record, in twenty three years in the league, it is the first time an offensive coordinator of Tom Brady has been fired. So this is sort of twenty three years, this is a first. This is a drastic measure. Brady's also forty six years old. The division is awful. It's virtually guaranteed to be a home field playoff game with a chance if you play well to get a buy. So there's no guarantees in the AFC. The Bucks are in dire need of a running game. You can do that in the draft. You can find great running backs in the fifth, sixth, seventh round. So what Brady basically is now, he's the oldest kid at summer camp and he just needs some new counselors, people who know how to set up the archery range and know where the kayak paddles are. Like, he just needs some help with counselors. He'll probably live with Todd Bowles. But I believe this is the word is out. They want Tom to see. It will fire left, which will fire the staff. We'll get you somebody else here comes Ryan Jensen, Tristan were of Shack Mason. The O line's good. This is a plea to get Tom Brady back. That is my guest this morning. And I was told a week ago by somebody close to Tom the coaching their lack of details, sloppiness drove him nuts. He probably will at first choice on coordinator. All right now. The second story, speaking of stars, a report by a Denver reporter that Mike Cliss Sean Payton was impressed with the Bronchos during his interview Monday. I can confirm that I went to dinner with Sean. He was and the Bronchos he is their number one candidate. So let's talk about this. Let's talk about this. There's a lot of things that we know make Denver a good job. First of all, the defense is good, so he didn't have to clean up both sides of the ball. They got a lot of talent on defense, a lot of talent, some of it young. They're not even paying yet, so they've drafted well, we know that to be true. That's good. We also know that the Bradley Chubb trade got them a first round pick back, which they may have to give up to the Saints to get Sean Payton. But in the building in Denver that's viewed as a steal. They get a first round pick for Chubb who was no longer productive. So that we know the defense is good. Also, the number one unit you have to clean up. Everybody agrees with offensive line. They have a good left tackle, one guard is okay. They got to go in free agency in the draft and they haven't clean it up. The other thing we know that's good. They have a star running back that got hurt. He returns, So you've got a good defense. You have a very clear area you have to clean up. The Chargers cleaned up their old line in one year. Free agency and draft. You can clean it up. They have a star running back that returns and excellent weapons on the outside. There's a lot of good to this job. Here's one of the things that isn't being talked about. So Sean Payton came to Fox to do television and he really likes it and he's really good at it. Have you ever noticed this with Fox? I'll just use Fox as an example. Look at the people at Fox do in the NFL. Michael Strahand, where did he play New York Giants, blue Blood Terry Bradshaw, Pittsburgh Stee Jimmy Johnson coach the Dallas Cowboys when Troy Aikman was here, Dallas Cowboys. You don't want to go coach in Carolina and disappear, right, you want to stay prominent. The Denver Broncos. I don't think people out east quite get this. It's a huge brand after the forty nine Ers, after the forty nine Ers, the most popular NFL team Denver West is the Broncos. And if you coach the Broncos, you got Patrick Mahomes. Television games Sunday Night Football, CBS, Primetime, Fox, Thursday Night Football. You get two games with Mahomes a year and two games with Herbert. And the Raiders still have, despite their lack of success, a very strong brand domestically, a very strong brand, especially Midwest West. And so Peyton's not going to disappear. He's going to be in big games. They have a clear issue that everybody agrees with O line. They have an excellent defense, and they have accumulated a first round pick they'll give back to New Orleans to get Sean. So anytime you take over a business, they've got problems, They've got a clear issue a line. Now let's get to the Russell Wilson piece. And this is substantial, is that? And I talked to Sean about this, and some of this I'll convey, some I won't. But the reality with Russell Wilson, most people understand the problem with Russell right now. He's too isolated. He's got you know, he's got this chiropractor and this thrown coach in his own office. And though it doesn't bother me, there is a sense, and it's well reported and well documented now that Russell's a little isolated from a lot of the young players, young receivers on the team. And they're gonna get younger because they're gonna have to pay some of these defensive guys in Denver, right they're good, They're gonna have to pay him. So the defense over the next four years is going to be expensive and older. They're gonna fix the offense by drafting it. So this is going to be a very young offense. And Russell's aging as a player and he's getting a little cringey and lack self awareness, and they've got to get him out of this isolation. Tunnel with him in cr They've got to be part of the group. Tom Brady for years and years did this. He from music to technology. Tom stayed young in the building and connectable and relatable. So they believe in Denver. Sean can fix it. Sean I know can fix it. And Russell Wilson has contacted Sean legally by the way, you know, through channels. He wants Sean Payton. He needs fixing. He knows he needs fixing. So when I look at this situation, it's fairly clear. Great defense, right, richest owners in the league, both impressed with each other. Solve the offensive line, free agency in the draft, and can Sean fix Russ I believe the answers yes. And the thing that's not talked about is it Denver's very attractive because Sean is good at TV. He likes So if he coaches for six to seven years and decides to pimpot back to football, you're not in Carolina. You disappear. Look who the network's put on every week. Pack They want the Steelers to be good, the Cowboys, the Packers, the Niners. This network is dying for the Bears to be relevant. You know how happy people are at Fox. Now we've got the Niners, the Cowboys, the Eagles, and the Giants. Do you know how happy we are at Fox. We had huge concerns this year, and I talked about him on the air. You start ended up with small market teams and teams like your Carolinas that disappear not good for us. We like the Niners, we like back in the Cowboys, we like the Eagles, we like the Giants. So you don't disappear in Denver when you're facing Mahomes twice a year, the Raiders twice a year, Herbert twice a year. It's a big job. Elway one of the most popular players in league history there for fifteen years. Denver's big. It's a big brand. It's a big job. It's Mahomes, it's Herbert. You're in television games. Very exciting potential. I am rooting for Sean not to take it because I like him on my show. Selfishly, I hope he doesn't go. But but the Russell components interesting. Some of this stuff I'm not going to get into because I don't want to, you know, break any trust here, but there's it is a solvable piece Russell has and this has all been reported by multiple people. Russ now feels isolated from some of the younger players, and Denver's gonna get younger because this defense, they're not giving up Patrick's or ten. They're not giving up guys like that. They got four or five guys on defense. They're paying them and they're giving them long contracts. So the defense is going to be older and more expensive over time, and the offense is going to be young. You gotta relate to the young guys. And right now, Russell's got a little bit of problem there. That's a little barrier he's got. He's gotta kind of not beat the mansion all the time with a beautiful wife, the Bentley, you know, the personal doctors. You gotta get out of that space and connect with people. I think at this point, if they get Sean Payton, the Broncos go in that bucket with the Lions and Steelers as buy offsea and teams, the three arrow pointing up. Well, every year in this league, seven new playoff teams, and there's always a team I picked this year. I think you picked the Jags. I picked the Vikings as the as the teams that come closest to doubling their wins, So we were both right. You were more right. So your team, like I think, did double their wins. What both had to do with good coaches, right, you upgraded Minnesota Doug Peterson's massive up offensive coaches. So it would have been it would have been ridiculous a year ago to say Minnesota is gonna win the division going away. They did. Jacksonville will win because after Urban it was a mess. Offensive coaches fixed the culture immediately. So Denver one how many games this year? Five foot They had a double digit win total in Vegas of the season, so they won five games. Raise your hand if you think getting that running back back Sean Payton five becomes ten. Denver's your Jacksonville, Denver is your Minnesota. That's the easiest. I mean, if you and I can go two for two on this, there's a reason you can see signs brilliant offensive coach, You've already got some components, a talented quarterback who had a coach that didn't kind of know what he was doing. And be honest, it Urbans a college coach, not a pro coach. Mike Zimmer defensive coach, not an offensive coach. It's an Offensive League. So this Denver stuff is very interesting. Let's stress though, they must get this head coaching thing right because as you outlined this Russell Wilson, it's issue, not a fracture, but the issues in that locker room they could bubble up even bigger if they don't land a veteran coach like Sean Payton and smooth things over. Yeah. I remember when I used to work at the other place. I thought this was fascinating. ESPN. You were assigned offices unlike the fourth and the fifth floor, and it was based on your longevity at the company in your title. And I always thought that's kind of weird. Like the corner office. People, that's the best because you get the you get the corner office, the two windows, fourth and fifth floor. You gotta look at the trees. It's beautiful. And the reason they do that is because not to fight, not to create these little skirmishes on who gets the good office. It's based on title. You're the company, and so you think it's silly that you know, Russell Wilson's got his own office. Who cares? People care like I wouldn't. But that kind of stuff. You bring your own doctor. You've got your own massage person, you got your corner office. It creates resentment, especially when it's all over the news that you have the biggest house in Denver and you're driving a Bentley and you got this this sport. I mean, what do we talk about with Aaron Rodgers. Embrace the young receivers, go out with them, hang with them, golf with them. Davante Adams left. He didn't feel there was a connection. So Russell's got he's got to start connecting with his young teammates. There you go. So Sean Payton likes them, according to these journalists, and they like Sean. I can confirm, I can confirm one of those. Yeah, he's interested, he likes them. He also likes Fox. He likes me. Frankly, he likes coming on the show. That's that's also me as well. I think he's a fan of my kind of near me um, not quite a three wood from me, but close enough, all right. Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays in noon Easter nine a Empacific on Fox Sports Radio FS one and the iHeart Radio app. Yeah, you're now entering Noble's Own sponsored by Credible Great Rates None of the Bulls. So, um, this is pretty predictable. So the Niners play the Cowboys, UM divisional playoffs, favored by over a field goal. The kid they gave up a bunch of first round picks for some picks for Trey Lance posted a cryptic Instagram message immediately after Tennessee hired their general manager from the Niners organizational Ran Carthon, and Trey Lance went Instagram and he's got his fingers crossed as if insinuating that Tennessee that could use a more athletic young quarterback would consider going and getting Trey Lance. So this stuff is predictable. Four things have happened in the NFL in the last decade. More and more rules have been built for offense. What does that mean? Quarterbacks and offensive coaches have become in gold bars incredibly valuable. I mean, look at the AFC shock Mahomes, Burrow, Alan, Trevor Lawrence in their prime. You know, top ten picks get used to that for a decade. The third thing is general managers now know to win and keep their job, they've got to get the offensive coach, and they've got to get a quarterback. And four people are reaching for guys that really aren't first round quarterbacks, just in the last few years. Trey Lance, the guy only had a handful of ledge games. Zach Wilson tiny from BYU. Baker Mayfield was not that athletic and not very big. Number one pick. It's to reach. Josh Rosen, Dwayne Haskins, Mitch Trubisky was a complete reach. Daniel Jones at six. I know everybody loves the Viking performance. It's a reach. Kenny Pikett was viewed as a third round pick when I talked to a Super Bowl winning general manager late second, early third. He dropped to late first and they played pretty good at the end of the year. It's not viewed as a first round talent. Sam Darneld, you could argue, although Darnold was athletic and big and wasn't already viewed as a reach, it didn't work. But you're getting a lot of these guys. They're smaller, they're not that athletic, they weren't that great in college. They didn't have it, they had scarcity of games, and everybody's reaching on quarterbacks now. The key in this league is admitting when you're wrong and moving off. Philadelphia is the great advance example, So they took Carson Wentz from an FCS school, big strong kid, but didn't play against great competition, and they traded up to get him, and then his backup won a Super Bowl, and the locker room the rumors are people like Nick Foles more than Carson. So then they paid him, and then they quickly bailed on him and got Jalen Hurts. And right now the Eagles are the number one seed in the NFC. Why because they admit they made a mistake and they moved off it. It's okay, Trey Lance is good enough to play in this league somewhere, maybe be a starter, but this offense and this coach, he doesn't fit. It's why the rumors that he wanted Mac Jones Kyle Shanahan didn't make sense. They do make sense because Max, the distributor of the football, will not run out of the play. And it all makes sense. So they need Chris Paul more than Steph Curry. They don't need a shopmaker at quarterback. This get the ball to the right people. And also, if you think of what you gave up, they're all sunken costs. It's already been used. Pick has been used. All you got left is that will first round pick that Denver now has. You're kind of passed it. And the other thing is brock Purty because he's a seventh round pick. The last guy taken is free for three more years. So you say, oh, we got burned on Trey Lance. Yes, but you're getting the most value of any NFL team from your other quarterback. Nobody's gonna pay less for a quarterback in the National Football League for the next three years in San Francisco forty nine ers and you're not paying Trey much. Just gave up sunken costs. So just move off Trey Lance. It's okay. Ship him somewhere, try to get a third or a fourth round pick. You'll get it. You'll get some draft capital back. The mistake in this league is as it's become more offensive, quarterbacks are more valuable. There's more reaches and more whiffs, and a lot of bad whiffs, Guys that don't even look close to a first round pick, like Zach Wilson, and for most of his career Baker Mayfield. You watch Burrow and Mahomes and Alan, you watch Baker. He then looked like a first round pick. You're not big enough, not strong enough, doesn't have an arm, don't have athletic ability. So it's okay, move on, sunken cost. You're getting a freebee out of brock Purty, who, by the way, is better athletically than the Niners thought. So the whole thing up. But we love treys athletic trays. A power runner and a power arm not the right fit. It's okay. Go about fifteen of these in the last five years. Kind of misses on quarterbacks. It's okay, move off at get another one. Jmack with the news. No, no turn on the news. This is the herd Line News. All right, We're gonna go right back to the Niners. Colin brock Purty obviously been playing great since he took over as the starter, undefeated so far, looking to keep that street going against Dallas GM John Lynch was asked about what has impressed him about Purty. Here's what he's had to say. I think just the poise, the presence, the pressure on that position in this league is into myths, it really is. And I think one thing that we saw from day one, he wasn't going to be phased. I think the area that probably is surprised, as you saw some running ability in college, but I didn't know he's this good athlete. He's a very good at His ability to move on the field and create and extend that has been, you know, surprising for us. I can't say that we saw that, I saw a good athlete. I did not see this, and so he's been tremendous for us. This is a really interesting point. So I can see people watching or listening to our show think, how could you not see how athletic he is. I'm going to give you two other examples. Justin Herbert, his coach, because they didn't have a capable backup at Oregon, wouldn't let him move. Herbert goes to the Rose Bowl, his last college game. Mario crystal Ball says, okay, y know, man, do your thing. I had two gms that were on the field. They were like, we never saw that. Justin Herbert, c J. Stroud, Yes, okay. Ohio State didn't have a guy ready that could compete with the big boys, so they protect acted CJ. They get to the Georgia game and they're like, we can't beat Georgia unless we unlease CJ. Strout. None of us have seen that CJ. Strout, brock Purty. Look how bad Iowa State is without him. The program didn't have any quarterback in the building that was nearly as gifted. So they protect him, some of the offenses, get rid of it, distribute. Then he comes to the NFL and guys, I'm a really good athlete. CJ. Strout, justin Herbert. It needs college programs if you have a star quarterback. It's very difficult at Oregon to have a star behind him. At Iowa State, even at Ohio State, they don't have a bunch of NFL quarterbacks. And so this is something that's happening more and more where these young quarterbacks are finally eventually allowed to use their athleticism and it's much greater than all the film shows out of college. And to the point about poise that Lynch talked about, since he became the starter, fourteen touchdowns, two picks, and Colin, it's gonna come down to turnovers. Dallas led the league in takeaways with thirty three. They flipped that game against Tampa with the interception in the end zone. So my question, do you do you think Purdie finally slips up because he has not since he's come in. I don't know if he's at even out of fumble No, But I think Kyle Shanahan looks at those numbers and says, what you did, Let's not lose the game to Dallas. I think they compress the game plan. They take a little more out of Brock's hands. It's a better pass rush than Seattle. Sealla's got a terrible pass rush. Now Dallas has a very good pass rush. So Kyle's gonna restrict and shrink the game plans, take it out of Purdie's hands slightly. Because Seattle's a bad defense. Dallas a great name. Do you remember what happened in the playoff game last year? Garoppolo struggled. His interception opened the door, but the run game was dominant. They had like one hundred and sixty nine yards on the ground. They were leading that game twenty three seven. Colin I talked about it on my podcast today. Dallas had one hundred and eighty four yards with ten minutes left in that playoff game at home against San Franz. Do we think it's going to be different all of a sudden, or is Purty gonna make a mistake? Like Garoppolo and open the game. I think San Francisco views this they're the better team, they're at home. We just can't lose the game, and that would be pretty with a mistakes. So I think that's where the number comes from. In Vegas, it's gonna be a lower scoring game. San Francisco will clearly feel like the better team, but it ends up twenty four twenty ish. They're not where you lose this game. If you're the Niners, is Brock running around lets, You're not gonna lose this game on personnel. But this do you remember Gardner Minshew when he went into Dallas like five weeks ago. They were dominating that game up and down the field, and then they had three turnovers unlucky handoff Minshew over the middle. As long as Purtty doesn't do that, I think the Niners of the side. I finally bet this game last night at three and a half. Some of the other books I know we see three and a half on the screen have had four in Vegas, so I think we're headed to four. Next up, Cincinnati Bengals, colin your guy Joe Borrow going into the Divisional round matchup against the Bills as an underdog Buffalo. According to Fox Bet, it's at five and a half. Okay, that's going up remembers three and a half four earlier this week. But Joe Burrow does not think his team is at a disadvantage. After practice yesterday, said he never feels like an underdog. Cullin the Bengals last two seasons as they rode underdog sixteen and four against the spread. Would Joe Burrow Yeah, If Cincinnati's offensive line was intact, I think they blow out Buffalo, and Buffalo blow out. I think they dominate the game. I think they're the only team that matches up player to player with Kansas City. So why is this number going up to five? Because the old line's a mess, and that's it's literally changed every Mahomes got blown out in the Super Bowl when he missed both tackles. You can only do so much. So if it was against a Tampa team with a nasty defensive front, well, Buffalo's defensive front is nasty. Well, their linebackers are great. They've got a pretty good edge presence. My takeaway is that's why I kept saying all week. If Kappa played and I'm missing two starters, one interior line, one tackle. I feel like Cincinnati could pull it out. You're missing three. It's probably a Buffalo game. I don't want to go over the top here, but Colin, you just said the Bengals would blow out Buffalo. Do you think there's pressure on McDermott in this game? Absolutely? Okay. I think the one underplayed story in this one. McDermott a defensive uru. So you better show up against the line missing three starters. Yeah. And the other thing is Cincinnati's been to a Super Bowl and Kansas said he's been to it and one we're all waiting for Buffalo to move to the next level. So the pressures on Buffalo all weekend. So what happens when a defensive coach sees his quarterback making a lot of mistakes? He starts to what, Hey, we gotta reign in the offense, Dorcy, I know you're interviewing out there. Got to dial back the offense. I don't know, Colin. I feel like like Cincinnati. I like Cincinnati. There Amaruno, I believe he's the defensive coordinator. Ye second half, he's been lights out. He confused Mahomes in that AFC Championship he would rush three drop eight. You think I'm crazy to say this. If Cincinnati was healthy offensive line, they'd have the better a line, they'd have the better quarterback, they'd have the more consistent run game. I think they have a better pass game with Higgins Boyd Chase. By the way, Davis is kind of hit and miss. I like him, but he disappears is Gabriel David, he'd kind of vanished. The Bengals secondary is a bit of a weakness of the line. It was an Eli Apple that got torched by DeMarcus Robinson. Hui. He would even make the Bengals starting lineup. So I think we're in lockstep here. Picks coming tomorrow, right four, My blazing five's done for the year. Yes, so we hit fifty five percent, but I'm gonna do a blazing four tomorrow, blazing for I feel good about it. I like my sides. I already made it, already got my pick all the games. I think like them all. Last week, I was very nervous. I switched one in the last hour and that hits. Yeah, Mike will I thought you were crazy for that. But let's go to the final story. And I wanted to chew up a lot of time, so we can buzz through this one quickly, because it just annoys the hell out of me. The Jets are looking for a new offensive coordinator. Former Broncos head coach Nathaniel Hackett is a candidate. How you feel about that? The Jets reportedly met with him on Wednesday. Hackett and Salo were both assistants with the Jags in twenty fifteen and twenty sixteen. Hey, you feel about that? For being completely honest? Yeah, I think Salo is doing his guy a favor. Hackett is I mean, no, nobody's touching this guy, so he's throwing him a bone and say, oh, let's bring in Hackett for an interview. Let's make it look like, Hey, this guy's not totally toasting the league. Let's do him a solid. They're not gonna hire him. Hell no, if they do. What I mean, what are we doing at quarterback? Do you think anybody's gonna want to come Jimmy Garoppolo, Derek Cart You think they're coming to work with Nathaniel Hackett, who may have just ruined Russell Wilson. No way, Hey, we need to salvage Jack Wilson. Let's bring on Hackett. Yeah, that guy called a great offense in Denver. Listen, I'm too fired up. I gotta I gotta rate it in. Um So it was it Frank Reich or Nathaniel Hackett Collin? What do we? I love Frank. It's a guy doing a buddy of favor. It happens all the time. Yeah, people in the media industry. Solid luck, you do a solid Yeah, it's nice. Yeah. Jmack with the news, Well that's the news. I love the third Lie and I and I Joy was such an irra irrational Miami Heat fan. That was hysterical for me to watch. And you are so crazy. Happy birthday to Joy two days ago, the same birthday as my wife. And I didn't say it on the air of such a jerk, and then but I called, and then I called Joy, I'm sorry, And then you are such an irrational Jets fan. Is I have not that I'm cynical, but I've been doing this so long. It's all produced to me. People don't come to me all the time, grocery store. Who's your favorite team? And I'm like the one of the most drama. I don't care. Just give me drama and tire fires. I don't care. Give me a tire fire on the four oh five. Anything that gets attention is fun. It's good for revenue rating. I don't care, but I do love. I do miss loving something as much as Joy loves the heat and you love the Jets. I am a little jealous of that now. I've got a little bit of that with the USC football a little bit. But like the two lane loss didn't affect me. And so it's like, I'm not you like you are. Literally the weekend is ruined. No, that is not true. Oh you are not listen. There are some mornings when I come in excited about Jets are gonna make the hurt hierarchy and you you snubbed them like you did, also did, but it bothers you when they poop their pants against Seattle. Yeah it bothered, but you know I had some money on the game. Whatever. But um, yeah I don't. I'm not irrational, Like they're not listening the comments going on in my life. I got direct League basketball team. We just took down the defending chances. We're better than the Jets, bottom line. Like, I get excited about a lot of stuff, coaching my kids in sports, and it's a compliment. Is never give that up because it I used to work. I didn't work with Mike Greenberg, but he was in ESPN. He was a Jets fan and he was literally inconsolable after they lost. He was just and he has a great family and the kids. It's okay. I miss that part of it where I don't have a team that I'm literally throwing a shoe at the television. And I think it's a great quality that you should never give. So never change. I thought that was like a big like a shot at hey. Never change everybody. You gotta change, you gotta adapt. Everybody should have three percent of irrational with their sports. I mean, so what's your three percent of the USC? But he but I know Chip Kelly well and like him, so I mean I don't want to. I don't root against anybody. When Lincoln Riley goes to the Jets in three years, I will be furious. Why would you give your career of Jets ownership mess? He's not going to the Jets. That's not happening. Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd week Days and Nun Easter nine, a Empacific folly Fosco here with Tony Fosco. Yo. As you all know, we're the host of the number one rated show in all the sports talk, the Folly and Tony Fosco Shop Numero Oh no, yeah, And we know why millions of people tune in every week. They want to hear us talk sports, not on idiot guests who think they know more about sports than we go. He listened to these dummies about this is the worst thing. He's still the shop. You don't know ball. If you want to hear how sports talk should be done, listen to The Folly and Tony Fusco Show on the iHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. The NFC Divisional play Baby presented by Into a TurboTax or on Fox. Starting on Saturday, Jalen Hurts leads Eagles against the rival Giants at seven thirty Eastern. Then on Sunday, Dak and the Cowboys were new a classic playoff rivalry against the Niners at six eastern on on Fox and the Fox Sports App. Oh you hear that music, that's Fox. That's big ratings. Niners, Cowboys, Giants, Eagles those sound big. Decent lineup yeah, I was looking. I was looking at the NBA Western Conference standings. It's Memphis, Denver, Sacramento. Baby, none of those sound big. They're talented, they don't sound big. Daron Fox, Kegan Murray, come on, get with it. Sacramento first round against Memphis, wants to SA. Nobody's watching that, and they're both good teams. So so this is interesting. So apparently I don't follow it, but there's some website that tracks how often I talk packers and negatively about Aaron Rodgers. So this is day thirty nine in a row. So Aaron had a quote on a YouTube show with Pat McAfee, this is classic. I don't know if I want to come back. You know, it's about the guys that I rely on, like Mercedes Lewis. By the way, friend of the show, nobody throws shade at Mercedes Lewis on this show. He goes, I want to I want to still play with Randall Cobbs of the world, Alan Lazard, Bobby Tanyan, David Baktiar. Yet the problem is that's half of your offense, and your offense was twenty fourth in the red zone and seventeenth in scoring. Your offense is weak and outside of baktri those are not considered elite players, but they are like unrestricted free agents, meaning somebody could get an offer outside of the building and you'd have to overpay for Alan Lazard. So Aaron's becoming Lebron without you know, the titles. There's a reason to movie Studio gives a multitude of concessions to Tom Cruise. He wants this. This this because because Top Gun made one point four billion dollars. There is a reason that even the great pat Riley gave concessions to Lebron James. They got the four straight finals one two. Concessions are for the greats of the great A movie studio gives you, you know, they give you a car points on the back end. You're Tom Cruise, the last remaining true superstar movie star. Maybe Hanks get it, maybe Denzel gets it, Ryan Gosling. Not a lot, but you get something for the concession. The Green Bay offense was the third most dynamic in their own division. What am I getting for the concessions? Okay, where's the payoff? This is why I'd moved to Jordan Love. I've said this, you can finish second or third in a division with Jordan Love and I can get draft capital. So remember years ago, Aaron was really really upset when Green Bay let go of Jake Kumero at wide receiver. Oh, Aaron through a tizzy thing. That guy's got seven catches in three years. Aaron doesn't know personnel. Aaron should stay out of personnel. It's not Green Bay's job to make Aaron comfortable. He's become like he's become meet the parents, old and crusty and doesn't let anybody in his circle of trust. He's telling the package, you gotta keep this guy, this guy, this guy, this guy, this guy, meaning you'll probably have to overpay for him. Meaning they're half the offense, and outside of Bactieri, they're not elite. And I love Mercedes Lewis as a blocking tight end. I like Alan Lazard as a four, maybe a three, But Aaron wants these concessions. In my takeaways, what do I get for it? You're twenty fourth in the red zone. That's with Aaron Jones with a powerback with the fourth highest rated OH line. You're twenty fourth in the red zone. Dallas has won your seventeenth in scoring. What do I get for the concessions. It's crazy town. So yesterday I was reading something I thought it was interesting on the interweb and we were talking about this. Ryan glass Spiegel is a media critic for the New York Post. He's very active on Twitter, very relatable guy, and he brought up the point and I didn't see what the result was, but it's an interesting question. Wouldn't you rather have this morning Aaron's career or Eli Mannings? Now my immediate reaction is, Baseball's about stats, Basketball's about flair. Football is about winning championships. So I'd rather have Eli Manning's career. He's got two super Bowls over Brady and Belichick too, the most iconic Froze ever, Mario Manningham and David Tyree. Now he's a five hundred quarterback. But there's a lot of guys that have won a singular Super Bowl, Trent Dilford, Brad Johnson, Bob Greasy. When I was a kid, there's a lot of guys that have won Super Bowls. They're not great. You get to two super Bowls. Peyton, Brady, Montana, Ben Stabach, Eli Manning, I'm sure I missed somebody. Farve's got one, Elway I think he always got two. The class of two super Bowls. That is a that is the ultimate VIP club in the most important position in America's most popular sport is the two plus super Bowl club. Aaron's not close to one. He's got one, He's not even close to two. And now he's demanding I want my C plus tight end, my number three receiver, my number four receiver, my blocking tight end. I gotta have those guys back. What do I get for the concessions, because I'll tell you right now, offensively, you're not as good as Minnesota or Detroit next year. And Detroit's got I think two first and two seconds and a better role line going forward, inexpensive and great. So it's not a shot at Aaron. But if you want can and I get concessions, Tom Cruise gets some lebron and his prime gets them. There's no question I would give Yannis concessions right now. There's there's about three guys in every mahomes. I'll make concessions. You know, Joe Burrow and Alan very close to a lot of concessions. I'm willing to do that, Tom Cruise, Denzel Gosling, you know, whoever whoever's moving the needle. I get it. You're twenty fourth in the red zone. Your offense is third best in your DEVI you're seventeenth in scoring. What am I getting? That's why, By the way, the Lakers won't give up picks to get Lebron helped. Their takeaway is okay, your body now does not give us eighty two games a year. You're having a stupendous season. But are we going to give up our future when you may not be part of it because of your age. We're gonna need those picks because in three years you're gone. We're not going to give up all those picks. If Lebron was nine years younger, you give up those draft picks today for the Lakers. But the Lakers are saying, we're not good now, you're gonna leave in three years. How do we build for later? We need draft capital and where even if you trade those picks and got a couple of guys, Lakers, aren't I mean in a half court playoffs setting Westbrook's complete liability as a half court player. Ad can't stay healthy And the truth is Lebron's playing out of his mind. But there's a chance he'll miss games by the end of the season because he has the last three years. He's an older player. Okay, can I bring up a point against Eli Manning? So Karen in his late thirties? Yeah, you know what Eli was doing in his late thirties. Absolutely nothing when he was thirty six. They went three and twelve when he was thirty seven, five and eleven when he was thirty eight. He got pulled after a few games or injured whatever. Played four games when he was thirty eight years old. Aaron Rodgers got an MVP award last year. In his late thirties, Aaron Rodgers had a better career unequivocally than Eli Manning. Not a better career. What would you want? I want to be in the two rings club. There's like seven eight guys in the history of the sport. A lot of guys have won a Super Bowl. Okay, so let me take it a step further. Eli Manning or Dan Marino who has no rings? Eli Manning? Is that a difficult one? Our two nexts