Thanks for listening to The Herd podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday from twelve to three eastern, nine to noon Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and FS one. Find your local station for The Herd at Fox Sports Radio dot com, or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching Herd. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Well, whenever anything's happening in Cleveland. For the last ten years of my career, here the other place, I call Mary Kay Cabot, beat writer for Cleveland dot Com and the Plain Dealer totally tied in. I always respect Mary Kay because if you really do your job in this business, half the fans hate you, and so she gets a bunch of crap all the time, and that's what I love about it. So, Mary Kay, hope you have a great summer. The Deshaun Watson six games suspension, my takeaway was the Haslem's immediately said we're good with it. The NFL immediately said we're good with it, because I think they feel they got a break on it. It felt light to me. I mean, what was your takeaway on this mentioned in the Times six Games? Well, I think the Browns were probably very happy with six games. I think they were bracing themselves for six to eight, so this was on the light end of that. I think Deshaun Watson in his camp, we're pretty happy with six games, although they really wanted nothing. And then as far as the NFL is concerned, I think they're the side of it that, you know, they're not happy with six games. They wanted more. They didn't even want to settle in negotiations for fewer than twelve. They really wanted that full year. And now we're going to have to see how they respond. So both sides, the league and the nfl PA agreed a couple of years ago to this process to have a you know, like an arbiter or it's usually a retired judge an independent person come in. So I think Roger Goodell's in kind of a complicated spot. He wants more, and as we know Mary Kay, commissioners rarely get in trouble for punitive punishment. It's when they go light they get in trouble. So I think you want it's more, But he's concerned if he goes four more games or five more games or the season, then the NFLPA they can sue, they can appeal and Deshaun could be playing Week one on appeals. So well, if you had to kind of guess where the NFL goes, having covered it for twenty years, what is your thought on that? You know, I think the first inclination for them is to appeal. I really think that after everything that they've been through, and after going through this new process as you mentioned, and knowing that they have the right to appeal that both sides do. I think that, you know, they want to take it to its fullest extent and try to get what they want. We know, as I said that they wanted a full year, they didn't want only twelve and six probably just isn't cutting it for them. So I think their first thought, their first inclination would be appeal, and we will know that by Thursday morning. But then they have to work through all the ramifications and all the consequences of that, as you mentioned, including a lawsuit from the NFLPA, because that will happen. So they have to decide do they want to end up in court? Do they want this thing to drag out for many many more months when in actuality they could have it be over pretty much now. How has Deshaun Watson been treated greeted at camp. I haven't checked today. You know, is he talking, How are the fans treating him? What's the environment like? You know, the fans have embraced him. I mean, you know you're preaching to the choir when you're out here at Brown's practice, that's for sure. So you know, this is where the tried and true come to see their beloved Cleveland Browns. So he has been embraced. Fans have loved him. I've watched him on the first day for fans, you know, play rock paper scissors with two young boys, give a cleat to each one of them. Autographed yesterday, fans were clamoring for autographs even after he had been suspended for the six games. So it's business as usual in Brownstown, at least for the people that are coming out to watch practice. So, um, the schedule first six games, in my opinions, pretty light. Justin Herbert would be the only like, you know, pro Bowl level elite quarterback they faced. Then it gets rough Burrow, Lamar Jackson, josh Allen Brady, you know, then it's the best in the business. So Jacoby Brissette, it's certainly a capable backup. You know, I look at that schedule and I think, you know, Atlanta's tanking, and you know, we don't know what the Steelers are doing at quarterback Carolina who's starting. I kind of look at it and think they're gonna go with Jacoby Brissette and just try to go three and three that from the outside, you're there, do you think they would make a move on a Garoppolo. They do have cap space, you know. If it stays at six games, I just don't see that happening. I see them going with Jacoby Brissette. I mean, if you remember Andrew Barry the Browns GM was in Indianapolis with Jacoby Brissette, so they have some inside intel on him. They really like him. They don't think that he's played with a roster quite like this before. Ported with this running game and with this defense, I don't see them making that pitch for Jimmy Garoppolo. If this stands at six games, I don't even know if they go for Garoppolo if it gets up to something like ten games, but they will probably at that point and have to put their heads back together and talk about it. But at this point, I think they're ready to ride with Jacoby. Yeah, I'll tell you. I still contend it's a very good team. I mean, as you look at this, you know, usually mary Kay, noise translates to a bad season, you know, the noisier the offseason. Have they kind of kept it together mostly during this Does it feel a little more disrupted at the staff the players? What is the vibe around the team in your opinion? Well, Kevin Stefanski sets the tone for the vibe on this football team, and he is unflappable. I mean, he's got ice in his veins and you just cannot rattle him no matter what. So he's handling this all very well. And it's trickling on down to the players to a man. We were asking guys today if they have even read the sixteen page decision. They said, no, that's not in our lane. You know, we are just here doing our job. So I think for the most part, the players are very dialed in, very focused, That's what we're hearing. It's a very smart football team, are very dedicated and efficient staff, and so they are holding it together pretty well. Mary Kay, You're great. Thanks to Zola's continue to have a good summer. Although your summer's done. Now it's over. It is. Yeah, well good luck to you, Mary Kay, thank you, thank you. You know, it's a joy. I came out, was it a week ago? I mean, Ryan of course was off. You know, he's on another one of his jumps, and so it's like a six week vacation. So I get COVID, I'm back an hour later, you know. Anyway, I want to get into that. The point being is I came out with my prediction. Yes, I didn't do records. I came out with my prediction. I put Cleveland fourth because I'm like, I think it's going to be eight games, and I just think that there's they're gonna lose like five of them. But when I saw the six, my takeaway was, no, they're too good to be fourth. Like, so it did affect Just if we want to talk football a day removed from this, it's kind of tacky to talk about it yesterday, but I guess it's less tacky each and every day. Right, is that the roster that is too good? The Raiders are going to finish fourth in my opinion, with a good roster. The division's insane. This division's not insane. Pittsburgh doesn't know what they're gonna do that Cincinnati is still going to be good or better. No, I think Cincinnati is gonna be good, and I think Baltimore I don't know exactly what their passing game will look like, but since Lamar entered the league, they win seventy five percent of the game. So going to be healthier than they were last year and they'll be good. So Cleveland to me, but look, let's let's just let's say it's between the Steelers and Cleveland. Let's look at our schedule, so let's go. Let's go through this. Would Jacoby Brissette for six games, I think they beat would Jacobe Brissette that it's my takeaway. They beat Carolina, that's a rebuilding team, Baker or Donald. They absolutely beat the Jets at home. I think they beat the Steelers at home. They absolutely beat Atlanta. They're not beating the Chargers. Let's just say Belichick out smarts Brissette and okay, that's that's I think they go three and three. I don't think they beat the Steelers. If you I would take three and three tomorrow. This is the best case scenario, as Mary Kay just said, for Deshaun Watson and for the Browns. That's why the Haslem's immediately released a statement. We know it's difficult, will accept it, and it's it's likely why the NFLPA and Deshaun Watson's camp came out before the official announcement and said we won't fight it. Because the sense was, and we talked about this a week ago. I think I think you did. The sense was it was gonna be lighter than we thought. I was leaning towards it was going to be a I mean, I think six games is egregious, but I thought it was going to be around two games. Yeah, I thought it would be eight, I said Thanksgiving. So it seems light. Well, all right, there's a lot of stuff going on. Okay, we also have massive baseball move today. Massive baseball move today. So Tony gwyn Junior, do you know Tony Gwynn, the late Tony gwen was the first interview I ever did in my life my career. I got a job at a college in Vegas. Vegas was the Triple A team for the Padres. I thought it was like a evil Kineval type guy. Well, that wasn't an interview. I interviewed captain dynamite, right, and he blew himself up at minor league baseball games. So no, no, I was already working at the station when that happened. Okay, okay, So the first official interview like it was it Tony gwyn very gracious, one of the great peer hitters, Ted Williams Gwynn one of the great peer hitters ever, incredibly accommodating. So his son is now a broadcaster for the Padres, and uh so there you go. Comes full circle. The Podres now acting like the Yankees and the Dodgers and the Astros, have apparently got the commerce going that they are. They are putting together an all star lineup. It's a lot of people in sports are reticent to go all in. Podres have gone all in. Not sure how profitable they'll be, but they've gone all in. One more heard The Herd streams twenty four hours a day, seven days a week within the iHeartRadio app. Search Herd to listen live or on demand whenever you like. You ever been last in line for a say, hot shower, high school, your family, got a lot of kids, it's lukewarmwater, it's a oh I'm not reading this yet. Am I No, I'm not. It's Joey Taylor with the news I think going to interrupts you. I'm still a little fuzzy. Eric Cosmer rejected the deal to Washington and will not be a part of the Soto deal purse source. So the Padres have less than five hours to figure out what to do with Osmar, who has owed thirty nine million twenty so we couldn't crush the deal. No, Soto is still going to go there, okay, and then you get all their prospects. But they have to figure out what to do with Osmer because the Nats are going to launt something. He's gone to, Yes, separate deal. He's going to the Red Sox. Yes, So the Nats are still like Soto for five prospects there. I don't know that it's completely finished yet, but they have a few hours to finish the rest of it. It's it's at the trade denline. So I've been thinking about this. The Red Sox now get the afterthought, like I mean, it used to be the Red Sox would get so, it would get Soto and the Potres would get like like an Eric Hosmer a good player. Now the Red Sox they're not involved in the big deal. They get the secondary player. That that's where it feels like baseball has gone from Yankee Red Sox arms race to it feels like Dodgers and like three other team's arm race. So Dallas, you can pretty much just predict this every single year. But Dallas is the world's most valuable sports franchise for the third year in a round world. In the world, yes, the world, coming in at seven point six four billion dollars. Okay, so it's this says here the most valuable NFL franchises, Yes, but they are the world's most valuable sports also, so their valuation is six hundred and thirty million more than the second most valuable franchise, which is the Yankees. They are they are the most valuable NFL franchise. That's what batlass is that we're showing. But they are also the world's most valuable franchise. So following Dallas, the NFL had the Rams, Patriots, Giants, forty nine Ers, and Bears all valued at five billion or more. And they also added that sixteen NFL franchises are worth at least four billion, with only four MLB teams and three NBA teams worth as much. So this is the these are the top NFL Francis. I think if I was if I had, if I was a billionaire, I would buy all of those except the Commanders. I think they are the stink is so bad for the last ten years. I don't want anything to do with that organization. The others i'd buy tomorrow. If I was a rich guy, I would buy. I though nine of those ten I would line me up. Yeah, the commanders of something so I was always something interesting going on. Sometimes you're so poorly run for fifteen years, I just can't. I don't want to deal with ten years. I just the rebrand is just too much. The fascinating part of the Cowboys to me really is that they are as popular and as valuable as they are without the postseason success. It's incredible, really amazing. I mean, Jerry has figured out a way to make them relevant despite being three playoff wins in twenty six years. Say that out loud. Three playoff wins in twenty six years in but they've rarely been terrible date of the crushed the division. That's like the Dolphins. The Dolphins are never terrible. They're I always feel like they're a game out of the playoffs, and so when they get hot like they are, it's purgatory. Yeah, you can see it. You can see It's almost like, you know what it's like being a Dolphin fan is sitting in the first role of coach on an aeroplane. You can smell what the first class is eating and you can see it being delivered, but you also don't have any space to put your stuff and then give you crack front of you. Yeah, and I'm like, oh, the steak, a sirloin steak is delicious, and you're in like row thirteens. You can see the guy and you can see what first class is eating and smell it, but you don't get it. So Pitt head coach Paton Ardoozy is the most recent coach to talk about the transfer portal and nil now. His comments come after wide receiver Jordan Addison transferred from Pitt to USC earlier this summer, and he called out Lincoln Riley's recruitment process. Well. Riley previously fought off these accusations back in April and May, but now he is speaking about it again at PAC twelve Media Days. When someone challenges that with no facts and just only emotion. Um yeah, I mean I think personally, you take it personally, absolutely, you do. I understand this is an emotional time. It's an emotional game with a lot of emotional people. We recruited Jordan just like we did every other transfer. Jordan got in the transfer portal. Jordan came on a visit to USC despite all the negative things that were put out magically by somebody. He's a kid that's all about ball. Now. We talked about this transfer when it happened. Obviously you are on these yes, these moves, and I you know, I'm from Pittsburgh. University of Pittsburgh is a wonderful place to play football. They have had a lot of success over the years. Dan Marino pretty good, pretty good career in lay, many other great professionals. But times change and kids would have as change. And I actually agree with Lincoln Riley not to be you know, naive in the situation. I think Nil does have a lot to do with a lot of these decisions. It's not outrageous If you are a top level offensive player that you would want to play for Lincoln Riley, that's not an outrageous thing of course, for all these conversations about the transfer portal and nil, you're still seeing these top prospects go to top programs. Why is that? Riddle me? That is it possible that maybe they have great coaching staffs and great training staffs, and great facilities and great options and great nutrition programs, the great weight lifting programs for these top recruits. I've argued with friends who are big college football fans. I said, you know, if they go to somewhere that is a good program, I'm like, you're not one of national titles anyway, and you're not gonna win them now. It's not changing anything. Name the program in the last ten years that was no good and now suddenly nil, they're great. It's Miami and USC, right, But they've been great before. Correct. So this is kind of a dramatic, glamorous money fu situations helping to benefit someone, yes, on the higher ends than others. That's what changes do. That's why people freak out about it. But I don't think the Miami USC things about money. I think it's about Mario crystal Ball and Lincoln Riley are are really good leaders and coaches. Yes, And that's my point when people argue about how NIL is just destroying the parody in college football. I really actually can't take that seriously because you can't possibly argue nobody can believe in college football to begin with. But I do understand the argument for separating the middle from the top that that is going to happen. Yeah, but that was already happening. Yeah, And it's just going to make more competition for the top level programs. So over time it actually may benefit those middle schools because if you are able to put together a good program, if you are able to get your boosters involved, you might be able to steal some recruits that those top level programs are ignoring. Yeah. I mean, Michigan State has very committed boosters and they feel more vibrant today than they did five years ago. And the nil's not crushing them. They've got two rich, three rich boosters and they want figure it out. So liv goolf continues to add former PGA stars to its roster, but Tiger Woods is not going to be one of them. Yeah. Woods previously said he disagrees with player the players choices to leave for liv golf, and the players have turned their back on want to allow them to get into this position. Liv Golf CEO Greg Norman confirmed yesterday that before he took the job, liv Goolf reached out to Tiger and made him an offer in the neighborhood of seven hundred to eight hundred million, which Woods declined. Okay, well, you know we've so live golf. What they call it in business is a disruptor, correct. Now, sometimes the disruptor Uber eliminates the traditional business cabs. I was just in Chicago and see a cab, so that now, UFC was a disruptor. They have not eliminated boxing, but made it less appealing to many people, myself included I watched more UFC than boxing. So we'll live golf. Do what Uber did and eliminate the PGA. No, they don't have the Masters. They don't. PGA is fine. Will it be like the UFC and make the PGA less appealing to many? Yes, but I think the PGA will be fine. The PGA's never run the Masters, the US Open Rider Cup anyway, I mean I think they may with somebody run the Rider Cup. They don't run the majors, usually British Open they don't. So my takeaway is this is going to be a little like UFC boxing, where live is gonna get a lot of attention and some people are gonna go all in on it. But the boxing still is vibrant, there's pay per view, there's good fighters. I still watch fights, and I'm still gonna watch the PGA. And to be honest with you, I didn't watch a lot of PGA. I watched events. The PGA does control. I watch every US Open, every Master, the Ryder Cup, and the British Open. Those are the four I watch and I'm not controlled by the thing. And I'm not terribly surprised that Tiger is not joining liv golf. I'm it's apparent Tiger has taken good care of his money over the years. Maybe he doesn't want to add in controversy of that people are being greeted with for joining liv golf. Everyone's not going to do everything, which is why the reaction to live golf has swung so far. To your point, the PGA is still going to exist. They're still going to be people that golf in it. It's it's it's competition. The PGA Tour is not a league. They were always Golfers were always allowed to play everywhere up well they're an organizing arm. Yes, all they are. That's all. People aren't as loyal to organizing arms as they are the league's That's right. So congratulations to our associate producer Whitney Benson and former Herd producer John Goulay for the birth of their baby girl, Gianna Lynn. She was born last night at six forty four pm, seven pounds, six ounces and twenty two inches long. So welcome to the Herd family. Gianna, way to goal. What a cutie. I love the bow. Look at that now John left us, so we really like her more than John, but we love her baby, very cute. Congratulations guys, different life, better life, fun life. Good for those guys. Joy with the news. Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the Herd Line News. Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays and noon Easter nine am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio FS one and the iHeart Radio app. I'm George Reister, host of the Reister or Wrong Podcast. This is the intersection where sports, business, society, and pop culture meet the truth, absolute fire on Monday's, Wednesdays and Fridays, Facts Only. Make sure you check your feelings at the door because no bies is allowed. We keep it one hundred. This is where real conversations happen. Listen to the Rice are Wrong podcasts on the iHeartRadio appum Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcasts. Well it is. Baseball has often been because of no salary Kappa team sport of have and have nots, where the Yankees and the Dodgers and the Astros and the Braves have big money now because of Steve Cohen the Mets, but over the last two to three years, the Padres, who don't have the richest ownership group, they obviously have some money now they have Josh had, Juan Soto, Manny Machado, Fernando Tatis signed a three hundred forty million dollar extension. Tony Gwynn Junior, who played in the Bigs for eight years, he's a Padre analyst for six seasons, joining us live now already at the stadium. You know I've asked this question Tony, that baseball San Diego feels more like a Minnesota or a Seattle where it's not one of these you know, where there's just endless capital. But they spend now close to a Dodger or a Yankee, explain this to our audience. Because there's one pro team in the market, San Diego State. I've never thought of it as a huge market, a little bit in the shadow of southern California. Where's the money come from, where's the finance team come from? Because they are just signing massive deals. Well, look, I think it really boils down to ownership, right, and the willingness to go out and spend. I think this is proof of that. Right. This isn't, as you mentioned, this isn't the biggest media market where revenue is coming in at as a higher rate as a New York team would. But certainly for the Padres, this ownership has made that commitment. Really from day when they took over. They were very honest with the city in terms of the plan and how they were going about getting to this point, and they've held they're end of the bargain. And this is further proof that when you have a committed ownership, no matter where you are, you can make things happen. Well, some of it feels like, hey, the Dodgers are so committed that the Padres say, listen, this is the game in our division, and all boats rise here because every time the Dodgers come to town, they sell out. Is some of this pressure from the Dodgers. I don't know if it's pressures, but if if you want to compete being in the same division as the Dodgers, you're gonna have to rise to the occasion. There's just no way about getting to that level that the Dodgers have been at so consistently for so long. Unless you're willing to take your salary upwards. You know you're not gonna get to that level. But with the help of drafting and developing and being able to spend money when it counts in the right spots, I think the Dodgers certainly are a driving force behind the Padres and really every team in this division having to kind of, you know, look under the hood a little bit and see how much further they can go. What is the I mean, seriously, what is it give me the top four in the batting order after the trade? What is it gonna look like? I mean, me and my partner, Jesse Agler, had been going back and forth, and it's the last few days, but I mean, my guess is that Bob Melvine likes to go left right left or right left, right to his lineup, and if Fernando is leading off, you can see a scenario in which Soto's been hitting behind him, Manny behind him, Josh Bell then behind him, and then you know, Luke Voight then follows. He can go right, left, right down the entire portion of the lineup and it would be a daunting task for any rotation. It doesn't matter who we're talking, Dodgers Mets to get through a line up like that without being taxed when they got towards the end of their their outing, and you know, that's where this game has made at. Now you get into that bullpen after taxing a starter, you can have some success. We've seen the Padres do it throughout the year. So far, you guys are drawing great. I just looked up the attendance numbers today. You're fifth and major League Baseball. It's a gorgeous stadium. Now, to me, this puts immense pressure on Bob Melvin. I mean, when you get that's the downside to having this lineup is, as Aaron Boone is finding out, as the Dodgers manager finds out, is Melvin secure if they don't make the playoffs? Does he have to win now, No, No, I don't think so. I think Bob is definitely secure. The Padres really are in the position to am are in right now in large part due to Bob Melvine. You start this season and you lose a guy like Fernando Tatts Junior after the way you finish the last season, that could have easily snowballed into this season. But from the day Fernando got hurt or it was announced he was hurt, he was out in front. He gave the guys like a day to kind of almost get it out of their system, and then it was back to work. And these guys have had this kind of workman like attitude all season long. They've done it far better than anybody expected without Fernando Tatteas Junior. And I think a large part of that is due to Bob Melvin's leadership. So to answer your question, I don't think he's under any pressure to win this year, but there is a window. I don't think there's any question about that. There's a window that the Padres are trying to capitalize on, especially with this reported move that's going down Juan Soto. Does he change the chemistry of the team, Do you play a different style with him. What will he do to the way the Padres look? Obviously he's a great player, but sometime, you know, milkie backs. For the Dodgers, I feel like they're just more athletic. He forces everybody to be more aggressive, more detailed. What does Soto do to very similar, very similar as characteristics for for Mookie and Wane in terms of what they bring to a lineup. Um, he's gonna lengthen out this lineup a whole lot more. And um, when you have a presence of a Juan Soto, um, it really changes the dynamic, the beauty. The beautiful thing about Wuan Soto, in my opinion is that for as talented, as talented as he is, he plays the game like he needs to move a runner over. He can move a runner over. And the Padres have won the majority of their games this year, low scoring, tight games, very few mistakes early on, and for as explosive and as talented as as one is, he can play the game of baseball. And I think that fits well into this locker room. I think it fits well into this lineup. And you know that's just that's just the baseball element. I mean in terms of what he brings individually, the power that the Padres lacking us. He's instant punched in the middle of that lineup. Yeah, watched that Mets team. They went out and got power a couple of weeks ago, right, like the Yankees have the power, the Dodgers have some of it. Houston's got some, the Mets added some, and now the Podres are adding some. Well, we got a top heavy sport, maybe, but there are six or seven great rosters. Those Dodger Podres series are gonna look like an All Star game. Tony Gwynn junior Podres analyst, obviously his late father, Tony gwyn mister Podre. It's great seeing you. Congratulations, your job just got even cooler. Congrats, Thank you God. I appreciate you having me on. I mean, just can you imagine if Fernando Tatis it's an All Star team? Wow, it isnt That's the way it was years ago Red Sox Yankees would play and you felt like you were watching an all star team. Like every if you combine the rosters, and that's what the Podres Dodgers are now. Nuts endless hot water. Choose Navy and all the hot water you need They only heat it when you need it so it never runs out. Got a tanklessmadesimple dot Com, tanklessmade simple dot Com? Is there a show after us today? I don't even know anymore? We do, we continue to carry this network. I couldn't go to the Fox NFL Big Bank with the last couple of nights up in Tarana. I was all bummed out. Looked great, got all the new crews up there, look fantastic. All Right, we're done. How about the Padres having never said that in a show before, It's the herd

Thanks for listening to The Herd podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday from twelve to three eastern, nine to noon Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and FS one. Find your local station for The Herd at Fox Sports Radio dot com, or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching Herd. You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Well, whenever anything's happening in Cleveland. For the last ten years of my career, here the other place, I call Mary Kay Cabot, beat writer for Cleveland dot Com and the Plain Dealer totally tied in. I always respect Mary Kay because if you really do your job in this business, half the fans hate you, and so she gets a bunch of crap all the time, and that's what I love about it. So, Mary Kay, hope you have a great summer. The Deshaun Watson six games suspension, my takeaway was the Haslem's immediately said we're good with it. The NFL immediately said we're good with it, because I think they feel they got a break on it. It felt light to me. I mean, what was your takeaway on this mentioned in the Times six Games? Well, I think the Browns were probably very happy with six games. I think they were bracing themselves for six to eight, so this was on the light end of that. I think Deshaun Watson in his camp, we're pretty happy with six games, although they really wanted nothing. And then as far as the NFL is concerned, I think they're the side of it that, you know, they're not happy with six games. They wanted more. They didn't even want to settle in negotiations for fewer than twelve. They really wanted that full year. And now we're going to have to see how they respond. So both sides, the league and the nfl PA agreed a couple of years ago to this process to have a you know, like an arbiter or it's usually a retired judge an independent person come in. So I think Roger Goodell's in kind of a complicated spot. He wants more, and as we know Mary Kay, commissioners rarely get in trouble for punitive punishment. It's when they go light they get in trouble. So I think you want it's more, But he's concerned if he goes four more games or five more games or the season, then the NFLPA they can sue, they can appeal and Deshaun could be playing Week one on appeals. So well, if you had to kind of guess where the NFL goes, having covered it for twenty years, what is your thought on that? You know, I think the first inclination for them is to appeal. I really think that after everything that they've been through, and after going through this new process as you mentioned, and knowing that they have the right to appeal that both sides do. I think that, you know, they want to take it to its fullest extent and try to get what they want. We know, as I said that they wanted a full year, they didn't want only twelve and six probably just isn't cutting it for them. So I think their first thought, their first inclination would be appeal, and we will know that by Thursday morning. But then they have to work through all the ramifications and all the consequences of that, as you mentioned, including a lawsuit from the NFLPA, because that will happen. So they have to decide do they want to end up in court? Do they want this thing to drag out for many many more months when in actuality they could have it be over pretty much now. How has Deshaun Watson been treated greeted at camp. I haven't checked today. You know, is he talking, How are the fans treating him? What's the environment like? You know, the fans have embraced him. I mean, you know you're preaching to the choir when you're out here at Brown's practice, that's for sure. So you know, this is where the tried and true come to see their beloved Cleveland Browns. So he has been embraced. Fans have loved him. I've watched him on the first day for fans, you know, play rock paper scissors with two young boys, give a cleat to each one of them. Autographed yesterday, fans were clamoring for autographs even after he had been suspended for the six games. So it's business as usual in Brownstown, at least for the people that are coming out to watch practice. So, um, the schedule first six games, in my opinions, pretty light. Justin Herbert would be the only like, you know, pro Bowl level elite quarterback they faced. Then it gets rough Burrow, Lamar Jackson, josh Allen Brady, you know, then it's the best in the business. So Jacoby Brissette, it's certainly a capable backup. You know, I look at that schedule and I think, you know, Atlanta's tanking, and you know, we don't know what the Steelers are doing at quarterback Carolina who's starting. I kind of look at it and think they're gonna go with Jacoby Brissette and just try to go three and three that from the outside, you're there, do you think they would make a move on a Garoppolo. They do have cap space, you know. If it stays at six games, I just don't see that happening. I see them going with Jacoby Brissette. I mean, if you remember Andrew Barry the Browns GM was in Indianapolis with Jacoby Brissette, so they have some inside intel on him. They really like him. They don't think that he's played with a roster quite like this before. Ported with this running game and with this defense, I don't see them making that pitch for Jimmy Garoppolo. If this stands at six games, I don't even know if they go for Garoppolo if it gets up to something like ten games, but they will probably at that point and have to put their heads back together and talk about it. But at this point, I think they're ready to ride with Jacoby. Yeah, I'll tell you. I still contend it's a very good team. I mean, as you look at this, you know, usually mary Kay, noise translates to a bad season, you know, the noisier the offseason. Have they kind of kept it together mostly during this Does it feel a little more disrupted at the staff the players? What is the vibe around the team in your opinion? Well, Kevin Stefanski sets the tone for the vibe on this football team, and he is unflappable. I mean, he's got ice in his veins and you just cannot rattle him no matter what. So he's handling this all very well. And it's trickling on down to the players to a man. We were asking guys today if they have even read the sixteen page decision. They said, no, that's not in our lane. You know, we are just here doing our job. So I think for the most part, the players are very dialed in, very focused, That's what we're hearing. It's a very smart football team, are very dedicated and efficient staff, and so they are holding it together pretty well. Mary Kay, You're great. Thanks to Zola's continue to have a good summer. Although your summer's done. Now it's over. It is. Yeah, well good luck to you, Mary Kay, thank you, thank you. You know, it's a joy. I came out, was it a week ago? I mean, Ryan of course was off. You know, he's on another one of his jumps, and so it's like a six week vacation. So I get COVID, I'm back an hour later, you know. Anyway, I want to get into that. The point being is I came out with my prediction. Yes, I didn't do records. I came out with my prediction. I put Cleveland fourth because I'm like, I think it's going to be eight games, and I just think that there's they're gonna lose like five of them. But when I saw the six, my takeaway was, no, they're too good to be fourth. Like, so it did affect Just if we want to talk football a day removed from this, it's kind of tacky to talk about it yesterday, but I guess it's less tacky each and every day. Right, is that the roster that is too good? The Raiders are going to finish fourth in my opinion, with a good roster. The division's insane. This division's not insane. Pittsburgh doesn't know what they're gonna do that Cincinnati is still going to be good or better. No, I think Cincinnati is gonna be good, and I think Baltimore I don't know exactly what their passing game will look like, but since Lamar entered the league, they win seventy five percent of the game. So going to be healthier than they were last year and they'll be good. So Cleveland to me, but look, let's let's just let's say it's between the Steelers and Cleveland. Let's look at our schedule, so let's go. Let's go through this. Would Jacoby Brissette for six games, I think they beat would Jacobe Brissette that it's my takeaway. They beat Carolina, that's a rebuilding team, Baker or Donald. They absolutely beat the Jets at home. I think they beat the Steelers at home. They absolutely beat Atlanta. They're not beating the Chargers. Let's just say Belichick out smarts Brissette and okay, that's that's I think they go three and three. I don't think they beat the Steelers. If you I would take three and three tomorrow. This is the best case scenario, as Mary Kay just said, for Deshaun Watson and for the Browns. That's why the Haslem's immediately released a statement. We know it's difficult, will accept it, and it's it's likely why the NFLPA and Deshaun Watson's camp came out before the official announcement and said we won't fight it. Because the sense was, and we talked about this a week ago. I think I think you did. The sense was it was gonna be lighter than we thought. I was leaning towards it was going to be a I mean, I think six games is egregious, but I thought it was going to be around two games. Yeah, I thought it would be eight, I said Thanksgiving. So it seems light. Well, all right, there's a lot of stuff going on. Okay, we also have massive baseball move today. Massive baseball move today. So Tony gwyn Junior, do you know Tony Gwynn, the late Tony gwen was the first interview I ever did in my life my career. I got a job at a college in Vegas. Vegas was the Triple A team for the Padres. I thought it was like a evil Kineval type guy. Well, that wasn't an interview. I interviewed captain dynamite, right, and he blew himself up at minor league baseball games. So no, no, I was already working at the station when that happened. Okay, okay, So the first official interview like it was it Tony gwyn very gracious, one of the great peer hitters, Ted Williams Gwynn one of the great peer hitters ever, incredibly accommodating. So his son is now a broadcaster for the Padres, and uh so there you go. Comes full circle. The Podres now acting like the Yankees and the Dodgers and the Astros, have apparently got the commerce going that they are. They are putting together an all star lineup. It's a lot of people in sports are reticent to go all in. Podres have gone all in. Not sure how profitable they'll be, but they've gone all in. One more heard The Herd streams twenty four hours a day, seven days a week within the iHeartRadio app. Search Herd to listen live or on demand whenever you like. You ever been last in line for a say, hot shower, high school, your family, got a lot of kids, it's lukewarmwater, it's a oh I'm not reading this yet. Am I No, I'm not. It's Joey Taylor with the news I think going to interrupts you. I'm still a little fuzzy. Eric Cosmer rejected the deal to Washington and will not be a part of the Soto deal purse source. So the Padres have less than five hours to figure out what to do with Osmar, who has owed thirty nine million twenty so we couldn't crush the deal. No, Soto is still going to go there, okay, and then you get all their prospects. But they have to figure out what to do with Osmer because the Nats are going to launt something. He's gone to, Yes, separate deal. He's going to the Red Sox. Yes, So the Nats are still like Soto for five prospects there. I don't know that it's completely finished yet, but they have a few hours to finish the rest of it. It's it's at the trade denline. So I've been thinking about this. The Red Sox now get the afterthought, like I mean, it used to be the Red Sox would get so, it would get Soto and the Potres would get like like an Eric Hosmer a good player. Now the Red Sox they're not involved in the big deal. They get the secondary player. That that's where it feels like baseball has gone from Yankee Red Sox arms race to it feels like Dodgers and like three other team's arm race. So Dallas, you can pretty much just predict this every single year. But Dallas is the world's most valuable sports franchise for the third year in a round world. In the world, yes, the world, coming in at seven point six four billion dollars. Okay, so it's this says here the most valuable NFL franchises, Yes, but they are the world's most valuable sports also, so their valuation is six hundred and thirty million more than the second most valuable franchise, which is the Yankees. They are they are the most valuable NFL franchise. That's what batlass is that we're showing. But they are also the world's most valuable franchise. So following Dallas, the NFL had the Rams, Patriots, Giants, forty nine Ers, and Bears all valued at five billion or more. And they also added that sixteen NFL franchises are worth at least four billion, with only four MLB teams and three NBA teams worth as much. So this is the these are the top NFL Francis. I think if I was if I had, if I was a billionaire, I would buy all of those except the Commanders. I think they are the stink is so bad for the last ten years. I don't want anything to do with that organization. The others i'd buy tomorrow. If I was a rich guy, I would buy. I though nine of those ten I would line me up. Yeah, the commanders of something so I was always something interesting going on. Sometimes you're so poorly run for fifteen years, I just can't. I don't want to deal with ten years. I just the rebrand is just too much. The fascinating part of the Cowboys to me really is that they are as popular and as valuable as they are without the postseason success. It's incredible, really amazing. I mean, Jerry has figured out a way to make them relevant despite being three playoff wins in twenty six years. Say that out loud. Three playoff wins in twenty six years in but they've rarely been terrible date of the crushed the division. That's like the Dolphins. The Dolphins are never terrible. They're I always feel like they're a game out of the playoffs, and so when they get hot like they are, it's purgatory. Yeah, you can see it. You can see It's almost like, you know what it's like being a Dolphin fan is sitting in the first role of coach on an aeroplane. You can smell what the first class is eating and you can see it being delivered, but you also don't have any space to put your stuff and then give you crack front of you. Yeah, and I'm like, oh, the steak, a sirloin steak is delicious, and you're in like row thirteens. You can see the guy and you can see what first class is eating and smell it, but you don't get it. So Pitt head coach Paton Ardoozy is the most recent coach to talk about the transfer portal and nil now. His comments come after wide receiver Jordan Addison transferred from Pitt to USC earlier this summer, and he called out Lincoln Riley's recruitment process. Well. Riley previously fought off these accusations back in April and May, but now he is speaking about it again at PAC twelve Media Days. When someone challenges that with no facts and just only emotion. Um yeah, I mean I think personally, you take it personally, absolutely, you do. I understand this is an emotional time. It's an emotional game with a lot of emotional people. We recruited Jordan just like we did every other transfer. Jordan got in the transfer portal. Jordan came on a visit to USC despite all the negative things that were put out magically by somebody. He's a kid that's all about ball. Now. We talked about this transfer when it happened. Obviously you are on these yes, these moves, and I you know, I'm from Pittsburgh. University of Pittsburgh is a wonderful place to play football. They have had a lot of success over the years. Dan Marino pretty good, pretty good career in lay, many other great professionals. But times change and kids would have as change. And I actually agree with Lincoln Riley not to be you know, naive in the situation. I think Nil does have a lot to do with a lot of these decisions. It's not outrageous If you are a top level offensive player that you would want to play for Lincoln Riley, that's not an outrageous thing of course, for all these conversations about the transfer portal and nil, you're still seeing these top prospects go to top programs. Why is that? Riddle me? That is it possible that maybe they have great coaching staffs and great training staffs, and great facilities and great options and great nutrition programs, the great weight lifting programs for these top recruits. I've argued with friends who are big college football fans. I said, you know, if they go to somewhere that is a good program, I'm like, you're not one of national titles anyway, and you're not gonna win them now. It's not changing anything. Name the program in the last ten years that was no good and now suddenly nil, they're great. It's Miami and USC, right, But they've been great before. Correct. So this is kind of a dramatic, glamorous money fu situations helping to benefit someone, yes, on the higher ends than others. That's what changes do. That's why people freak out about it. But I don't think the Miami USC things about money. I think it's about Mario crystal Ball and Lincoln Riley are are really good leaders and coaches. Yes, And that's my point when people argue about how NIL is just destroying the parody in college football. I really actually can't take that seriously because you can't possibly argue nobody can believe in college football to begin with. But I do understand the argument for separating the middle from the top that that is going to happen. Yeah, but that was already happening. Yeah, And it's just going to make more competition for the top level programs. So over time it actually may benefit those middle schools because if you are able to put together a good program, if you are able to get your boosters involved, you might be able to steal some recruits that those top level programs are ignoring. Yeah. I mean, Michigan State has very committed boosters and they feel more vibrant today than they did five years ago. And the nil's not crushing them. They've got two rich, three rich boosters and they want figure it out. So liv goolf continues to add former PGA stars to its roster, but Tiger Woods is not going to be one of them. Yeah. Woods previously said he disagrees with player the players choices to leave for liv golf, and the players have turned their back on want to allow them to get into this position. Liv Golf CEO Greg Norman confirmed yesterday that before he took the job, liv Goolf reached out to Tiger and made him an offer in the neighborhood of seven hundred to eight hundred million, which Woods declined. Okay, well, you know we've so live golf. What they call it in business is a disruptor, correct. Now, sometimes the disruptor Uber eliminates the traditional business cabs. I was just in Chicago and see a cab, so that now, UFC was a disruptor. They have not eliminated boxing, but made it less appealing to many people, myself included I watched more UFC than boxing. So we'll live golf. Do what Uber did and eliminate the PGA. No, they don't have the Masters. They don't. PGA is fine. Will it be like the UFC and make the PGA less appealing to many? Yes, but I think the PGA will be fine. The PGA's never run the Masters, the US Open Rider Cup anyway, I mean I think they may with somebody run the Rider Cup. They don't run the majors, usually British Open they don't. So my takeaway is this is going to be a little like UFC boxing, where live is gonna get a lot of attention and some people are gonna go all in on it. But the boxing still is vibrant, there's pay per view, there's good fighters. I still watch fights, and I'm still gonna watch the PGA. And to be honest with you, I didn't watch a lot of PGA. I watched events. The PGA does control. I watch every US Open, every Master, the Ryder Cup, and the British Open. Those are the four I watch and I'm not controlled by the thing. And I'm not terribly surprised that Tiger is not joining liv golf. I'm it's apparent Tiger has taken good care of his money over the years. Maybe he doesn't want to add in controversy of that people are being greeted with for joining liv golf. Everyone's not going to do everything, which is why the reaction to live golf has swung so far. To your point, the PGA is still going to exist. They're still going to be people that golf in it. It's it's it's competition. The PGA Tour is not a league. They were always Golfers were always allowed to play everywhere up well they're an organizing arm. Yes, all they are. That's all. People aren't as loyal to organizing arms as they are the league's That's right. So congratulations to our associate producer Whitney Benson and former Herd producer John Goulay for the birth of their baby girl, Gianna Lynn. She was born last night at six forty four pm, seven pounds, six ounces and twenty two inches long. So welcome to the Herd family. Gianna, way to goal. What a cutie. I love the bow. Look at that now John left us, so we really like her more than John, but we love her baby, very cute. Congratulations guys, different life, better life, fun life. Good for those guys. Joy with the news. Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the Herd Line News. Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays and noon Easter nine am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio FS one and the iHeart Radio app. I'm George Reister, host of the Reister or Wrong Podcast. This is the intersection where sports, business, society, and pop culture meet the truth, absolute fire on Monday's, Wednesdays and Fridays, Facts Only. Make sure you check your feelings at the door because no bies is allowed. We keep it one hundred. This is where real conversations happen. Listen to the Rice are Wrong podcasts on the iHeartRadio appum Apple podcast or wherever you get your podcasts. Well it is. Baseball has often been because of no salary Kappa team sport of have and have nots, where the Yankees and the Dodgers and the Astros and the Braves have big money now because of Steve Cohen the Mets, but over the last two to three years, the Padres, who don't have the richest ownership group, they obviously have some money now they have Josh had, Juan Soto, Manny Machado, Fernando Tatis signed a three hundred forty million dollar extension. Tony Gwynn Junior, who played in the Bigs for eight years, he's a Padre analyst for six seasons, joining us live now already at the stadium. You know I've asked this question Tony, that baseball San Diego feels more like a Minnesota or a Seattle where it's not one of these you know, where there's just endless capital. But they spend now close to a Dodger or a Yankee, explain this to our audience. Because there's one pro team in the market, San Diego State. I've never thought of it as a huge market, a little bit in the shadow of southern California. Where's the money come from, where's the finance team come from? Because they are just signing massive deals. Well, look, I think it really boils down to ownership, right, and the willingness to go out and spend. I think this is proof of that. Right. This isn't, as you mentioned, this isn't the biggest media market where revenue is coming in at as a higher rate as a New York team would. But certainly for the Padres, this ownership has made that commitment. Really from day when they took over. They were very honest with the city in terms of the plan and how they were going about getting to this point, and they've held they're end of the bargain. And this is further proof that when you have a committed ownership, no matter where you are, you can make things happen. Well, some of it feels like, hey, the Dodgers are so committed that the Padres say, listen, this is the game in our division, and all boats rise here because every time the Dodgers come to town, they sell out. Is some of this pressure from the Dodgers. I don't know if it's pressures, but if if you want to compete being in the same division as the Dodgers, you're gonna have to rise to the occasion. There's just no way about getting to that level that the Dodgers have been at so consistently for so long. Unless you're willing to take your salary upwards. You know you're not gonna get to that level. But with the help of drafting and developing and being able to spend money when it counts in the right spots, I think the Dodgers certainly are a driving force behind the Padres and really every team in this division having to kind of, you know, look under the hood a little bit and see how much further they can go. What is the I mean, seriously, what is it give me the top four in the batting order after the trade? What is it gonna look like? I mean, me and my partner, Jesse Agler, had been going back and forth, and it's the last few days, but I mean, my guess is that Bob Melvine likes to go left right left or right left, right to his lineup, and if Fernando is leading off, you can see a scenario in which Soto's been hitting behind him, Manny behind him, Josh Bell then behind him, and then you know, Luke Voight then follows. He can go right, left, right down the entire portion of the lineup and it would be a daunting task for any rotation. It doesn't matter who we're talking, Dodgers Mets to get through a line up like that without being taxed when they got towards the end of their their outing, and you know, that's where this game has made at. Now you get into that bullpen after taxing a starter, you can have some success. We've seen the Padres do it throughout the year. So far, you guys are drawing great. I just looked up the attendance numbers today. You're fifth and major League Baseball. It's a gorgeous stadium. Now, to me, this puts immense pressure on Bob Melvin. I mean, when you get that's the downside to having this lineup is, as Aaron Boone is finding out, as the Dodgers manager finds out, is Melvin secure if they don't make the playoffs? Does he have to win now, No, No, I don't think so. I think Bob is definitely secure. The Padres really are in the position to am are in right now in large part due to Bob Melvine. You start this season and you lose a guy like Fernando Tatts Junior after the way you finish the last season, that could have easily snowballed into this season. But from the day Fernando got hurt or it was announced he was hurt, he was out in front. He gave the guys like a day to kind of almost get it out of their system, and then it was back to work. And these guys have had this kind of workman like attitude all season long. They've done it far better than anybody expected without Fernando Tatteas Junior. And I think a large part of that is due to Bob Melvin's leadership. So to answer your question, I don't think he's under any pressure to win this year, but there is a window. I don't think there's any question about that. There's a window that the Padres are trying to capitalize on, especially with this reported move that's going down Juan Soto. Does he change the chemistry of the team, Do you play a different style with him. What will he do to the way the Padres look? Obviously he's a great player, but sometime, you know, milkie backs. For the Dodgers, I feel like they're just more athletic. He forces everybody to be more aggressive, more detailed. What does Soto do to very similar, very similar as characteristics for for Mookie and Wane in terms of what they bring to a lineup. Um, he's gonna lengthen out this lineup a whole lot more. And um, when you have a presence of a Juan Soto, um, it really changes the dynamic, the beauty. The beautiful thing about Wuan Soto, in my opinion is that for as talented, as talented as he is, he plays the game like he needs to move a runner over. He can move a runner over. And the Padres have won the majority of their games this year, low scoring, tight games, very few mistakes early on, and for as explosive and as talented as as one is, he can play the game of baseball. And I think that fits well into this locker room. I think it fits well into this lineup. And you know that's just that's just the baseball element. I mean in terms of what he brings individually, the power that the Padres lacking us. He's instant punched in the middle of that lineup. Yeah, watched that Mets team. They went out and got power a couple of weeks ago, right, like the Yankees have the power, the Dodgers have some of it. Houston's got some, the Mets added some, and now the Podres are adding some. Well, we got a top heavy sport, maybe, but there are six or seven great rosters. Those Dodger Podres series are gonna look like an All Star game. Tony Gwynn junior Podres analyst, obviously his late father, Tony gwyn mister Podre. It's great seeing you. Congratulations, your job just got even cooler. Congrats, Thank you God. I appreciate you having me on. I mean, just can you imagine if Fernando Tatis it's an All Star team? Wow, it isnt That's the way it was years ago Red Sox Yankees would play and you felt like you were watching an all star team. 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