Hour 3 - Vince Wilfork

Published Feb 5, 2025, 8:25 PM

Covino & Rich, in for Colin Cowherd, talk with 2x Super Bowl Champion Vince Wilfork about his memories in playing in the Big Game. Covino is beside himself that the Mavericks would offer refunds to season ticket holders after trading Luka. Plus, one MLB All-Star is picking up the pickleball racket!

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But it's a pleasure bringing you into the room where it happens. We're here at the convention Center. There's a buzz in the air, and we're just pumped.

Man.

Just to look around. I saw Page Sporannic again.

I don't do that.

I saw a bird Chreiser.

You know.

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We saw Jake Glazer walking by, and it's just that Rock was over there. It's nice to bump into people on and off the earth. It's very, very very cool to be here.

And now listen. Earlier today, caught up with a really good dude.

And when I say a really good dude, I assumed dude have a fun time talking to him. But Vince Wilfork, a guy that's been to four Super Bowls, one of the greatest defensive players of our lifetime.

New England Patriot. We love them and we want you to hear it.

So this is our hang earlier today with Vince will Fork on the Herd, Cavino and Rich. It's Coveno and Rich on Fox Sports Radio, and we are joined by two time Super Bowl champions. Five hundred and sixteen tackles, one of the greatest those tackles of all time.

Vince Wilford Trump, what's on?

That's pretty cool?

Like that?

You feel good? Nice? You should?

Yeah, man, looking good.

Too, Thank you, thank you, thank you.

You know I'm looking at your stats.

And again, five hundred and sixteen tackles, one defensive TD.

Do you still think about that one? Tell us about that one, man, that one. I fell on them ball and the end zone. But still it's a touchdown. It goes down town, right, But yeah, that's.

What it was. I mean, I was on the bottom of the pow and it took by five minutes for everybody to get off of me.

Is that scary man, where you're the guy underneath?

But you know what, I never thought about it. When I was up underneath there, I was like, because you know, got the face man, and I was just face down like oh, and I'm telling everybody I got the ball. Will Fork got the ball, got the ball. I was just having fun and making jokes about it. But I got the ball. Real I got the ball with for scar.

That scares the hell out of me.

I mean, if you're claustrophobic and all all those big dudes are piled on you, that's not a fun moment. I mean, you got to touch that, but that those moments being under the pile god fun.

But the thing is if you, if you own the under pile, be face down right, don't don't don't face that like no, you know like that now that would have creaked me out right, Yeah, I'm a face down I couldn't seen thathing but the ground. Yeah, but you try to figure out in the end zone, right yeah, yeah, I don't know, but I got the ball. I have the ball.

By the way, Vince will Fork no stranger to this week super Bowl week. I got to ask you about the highs and lows of a Super Bowl when you win or when you lose.

Because of the games you they're all close.

Like now you're on the sideline thinking, crap, the Seahawks got us.

You win.

You're on the sideline thinking we got the Giants. They win, like how are those emotions.

Well, during the game, you just locked in, you know, even a Seattle game, it's like we I always thought we had a shot in every game we play, no matter what it looked like, because of twelve and because of Bill Belichick, right, because so I'll you know, always thought that way. So that Seattle game, like the marching and all that stuff it really done. Didn't done on me that we're just gonna lose a game like it is what it is, because my mind said, okay, okay, worst can happen to us. They score, we get a ball back to Tom and he go do what he got to do in two minutes. Because mind you, Tom torched them up over three hundred and fifty yards passing the game. So I wasn't worried about that. So when you're in it, you don't really think about it. It's just like being in battle, where no matter what's going on around you have a job to do. You don't got you have to stay locked in and stay focused in what you're doing because anything is possible. Right, And Malcolm ended up making that play, you know, and.

Do you love him forever because of that play?

You got to love him. That's that's a great football play, Like you just have to chalk that up because ten out of ten times it's incomplete, right, you know, it's an incomplete ball. But for some reason, man, a good man was on our side with doubt. But that hell of a catch and the hell of a just a hell of a football play. And guess what I was on the opposite end of that with the helmet catch, yep, and with the scene route, you know, the route that I think Many him against Eli third and Long backed up on the sideline, Cover two, perfect ball right on sideline. So I was, trust me, I had it twice. Who I lost in two I won. So it says you have to take it and you have to just chalk it up to a good football play. And those plays like that helmet catch, I mean, it is what it is like, ten out of ten times incomplete, right you know. But that pass on the sideline that Many threw too many hand whatever, that was cover two, perfect thrown ball, perfect coverage, perfect catch, perfect locase.

Vince woll fourth, let's talk about the two wins again.

You were with the Patriots from four to twenty fourteen, then the Texans after that.

What was the difference in Super Bowl wins.

I think you and Brady were the only two to win in four and fourteen, two different decades. So what were the difference in wins one earlier in your career one later in your career.

Well, I think the difference was one I was a rookie and one I was a veteran, you know, rookie year. I basically came in. Yeah, I played and all of that stuff, but that really wasn't my defense of my team, you know, I was you know, I wasn't that. You know, I had others in front of me. I was waiting my time now my last one. That was my team.

Did you not feel as part of it though?

Looking back? Yeah, because I mean I was a young bug, Like I was a rookie. You know, I had guys around me that's been in the game for so long, like you know, Rable Guy, William McGinnis and uh Bruski Rodney Harrison. So I had guys around me that's been playing for you know, a good while that that was their their team and their deals.

So they were veterans and you're sort of like cheering with them. You're still part of the I'm still part of it. The last one was that was my team, that was defense. Those guys I basically brung up. I helped them, I taught them. You know, there was my linebackers. That was my secondary. When I spoke, it was like I was like the big brother, and.

You got a little taste of everything.

You know, winning young, winning older, uh, losing Super Bowl.

We had a little bit of everything.

But when you watch like a documentary Man in the Arena, Tom Brady, do you get emotional watching those old highlights when it's all in slow motion and they tell like an emotional story along with the games.

Well, a lot of times we don't realize some stories behind things, you know, and watching stuff like that, he's like, man, we did that. Damn Like dan't tell them you like it. It puts you in awe because you don't realize how great things were until you retire and you look back on your career because you have to understand, as you plan, it's go, go, go go. I don't have time to reminisce on the play that I made, you know, I don't got time to I don't have I don't have time to reminisce on losing every every week is you have to go. But once you retire and sit back and you'd be like, wow, and we did that, or man I did that, that's crazy. That's when you could kind of reminisce on your career what it meant for you the teammates you had stuff like that and be in a certain situations. You thought it was one thing, but you find out there was so much other stuff going on. It's like, man, I didn't have no clue. So it's bittersweet, you know, it's bittersweet, but it's always cool to look back and just realize what we accomplished over that span.

When you see what Mahomes is doing right now, do you get defensive of twelve of Tom Brady or do you or do you admire what Mahomes is?

Not A myer him? I am him because you know, Mahomes won me over last year when you know, Chiefs was not looking like the Chiefs and you know they they hit a stride and Mahomes game changed. And you see when his game changed, the team game change. He basically put that team on his back. He said I'm going and get him, and I became a Mahomes fan then, you know, but twelve is twelve. That's just what it is. Twelve is what it is.

Yeah, he's different.

Yeah, speaking of Mahomes, you know he's going for the three piece, something that Brady hasn't done. But Jingalen Hurts doesn't want to lose again, right, especially to the Chiefs. You've lost in a super Bowl. Can you tell us about the motivation factor? Rich and I have been arguing all week because I feel like both teams wanted. He's like the Eagles made one more. I'm saying, what's a greater motivator to win again? Like you've been fed already or haven't gotten one yet and you've lost, Like, what's a greater motivator losing or going for the three P.

Losing because you know three peak. I mean it's three P. Yeah, it's cool, it's history and all that. But if if I lost the Super Bowl, I know that feeling. See, people don't understand I can. I can never explain it to the point that you would get it because you have that's something you have to experience. Losing the Super Bowl is the worst, worst time in my career. You understand other team confetti hitting you, you're walking off the field. You got to go do media. You don't want to talk to media. You're pissed off because everything you put into it. Losing a game of Super Bowl it's.

Like someone taking your girl in front of you and you have to watch it.

You have to watch it. You can't do nothing. You have to respect you. So I always think losing is a bigger deal than three peating because three pa, you got two already and then you might not three p but you might. Can you know, lose one and go you got a chance to do another. But you're losing. It's a big deal. So he was, it's a huge deal. So I think the Eagles looking at it in the aspect of, hey, we remember this feeling, how we felt losing before. We don't want that feeling ever again. Like we know, we don't want that feeling.

And everybody's so focused on the three pet and I'm like, yo, they're pretty motivated too, And they got sequon bark defensive legends.

Are you seeing how this guy looks unstoppable?

Legend? I fell in love with Barkley. Listen what he's done this year. I fell in love. I became I don't know if you call me an Eagles fan or whatever it may be. But I fell in love with him just the way he approaches the game, and I want them to win it for that. You know. Before him, you know, and people doubting him or he's not the same in this, that and the other. He came back and had a monster year, like one of the best years of running back and half in.

The history of this game. And he seems like a good dude, and he.

Seems like a great guy. It seemed like when you when you have a guy like that, it's easy to play and rally around a guy like like listen and not let's not talk about the Eagles, their their their defensive front or their offensive front, like they have what it takes to win. They do they I believe they're the most physical team. I think they have more depth all on defensive line and they have playmakers on a defensive line that can ruin the game or.

As a defensive gun. How would you stop him? How would you stop Barkley? Everyone's saying, don't you can't bet against Mahomes, but they're saying, you can't stop sit on Barkley.

So how would you approach that?

Man? It's big boy game? Because Gouse, I can't. I can't dedicate eight in the box. I can't because guess what, I have these guys on the outside. We have these guys, these playmakers on the outside into my tight end in the back, out of the backfield. I can't do that because if you do that, I'm over the top. I got a speech to run a for to one that can get down a feel in two seconds, Like you're putting so much stress on your second Like, no, you can't do that. So you're gonna have to play smart schematic You're gonna have to do some things differently, show them some different looks, disguise.

You know, you may be think of something.

Speaking of doing things differently, I know it's always been a part of the game, but do you think there has been an increase in knocking the ball out, punching the football?

What are your thoughts on that? Are they taking boxing lessons?

How are they so accurate in today's game knocking the ball out, punching it out?

I think it's just practice more right, Yeah. I mean they took they took something that was very successful and just implementing and and just practices and practices. Because I just look at it as nowadays with NFL, you can't hit, you can't tackle certain type of ways. So the most important thing in football it's the ball, right, The ball turnovers. So if I can't knock your head off, how can I get this ball? I can't hit you and get it off? So what else I say? You know what, I'm crazy punching? You have a box, a whole new part of the game. Yeah, but me, I'll be like, man, I'm getting too close. I need to do something. But these patient pa. You know, it's a credit to the coaches that's coaching it, and it's credit to the players that's taking that part of their game and elevating it because it make a huge game.

Mike Tyson is gonna be a football coach.

Yeah, I'm working with the Raiders that Yeah.

Yeah, you know that's crazy.

Eat your face.

I love it.

Yeah, Vince will fark, I gotta ask you because you're here with Kingsford R. Yes, yes, yes, So I'm here all week and we're having a super Bowl party at my house when I get back to California.

And my wife said, Babe, this week.

While you're gone, I want to buy a new smoker and a new grill. And I want to experiment with new food for the party. And I'm like, Babe, that's not the time to start out making you smoking meats or taking on this task before.

You know what kings from making very easy for you, but it kings for the originally is the choice of champions. Just get you some keys because you know what you know, some people think grilling is just all about a seasonal thing, willingness all year round. I cook all the time, and because it's it's the flav withs, the smell. It's bringing people together, family, friends, And we were talking earlier just growing up, going to the park and just having that a romance. Son, you knew what time it was, so it is perfect time. It is perfect time for you and your wife. All right, get keys for the o boy, go get your keys for for game day preparations to make. But it makes it so so simple and easy because it's just it brings so many people together food and football. It's like amazing collap you know.

When it comes to that, Vince, I gotta ask you what happens if someone tries to man your grill?

Can you take over another man's grill?

Man? That's a listen here man, that's got to be pretty bad to make that man listen. That's that's right up there. How I feel about boiling ribs, like, we don't do that. You don't touch you don't touch my grill, don't touch another man's radio. You don't do that. So there's nobody come in peeking like we're not doing that. That's fighting, right, right. So I'm very very protected over my grill and my setup and how I do things like if stay in the house, I'll let you know when the food is done, you know.

Speaking of the Kingsford stuff too, you're working with Jason Kelsey. I'm just wondering what it's like working with this guy. He's so popular now is it crazy to see something?

You know?

It was cool and we had a good time having it. We had a great time on set and amazing, amazing guy, you know, and I was happy to bring him on to the Kings for failing to teach him a little something something about being the king of the grill, you know. So he's learning. He's almost there. He'll probably tell you he's there, but you know, it's a working progress. But I'm happy with him and we had a great time. It was Kingsford and Jason and myself like, man, we we've done amazing things, you know, and we're going hopefully we can continue to do this stuff and bring you got some more good stuff.

Goodness, I love it, man, A pleasure having Sensuel RK.

Thank you Guy good Den.

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At Media Row super Bowl fifty nine in New Orleans, and where's Colin?

Where's the Herd?

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We'll be doing our regular show later today, so it's a double.

Dooozy of CNR on FSR. And if you missed our show yesterday, we had Page Sporanic on, former pro golfer turned influencer. Everybody knows her. She's got eleven million follows on social media. And we had Kurt Schilling on and we know he has a reputation.

He was a delight. We could have talk to that guy all day about baseball.

He was very cool.

If you missed anything, catch it on the podcast. Just search Covino and Rich wherever you stream your podcast. But thanks again for joining us today. It's always a pleasure. And by the way, congratulations in order. Did you see Giselle had a baby, no way.

Yeah, her and the.

Fitness instructor, the jiu jitsu dude jock. Yeah, they always the jiu jitsu guy.

Or chat at work.

They had the baby, and I think the only the only thing they could be a real like gut punch would be fast forward twenty years.

You mean judo chomp? Oh, yeah, the good one.

Imagine this kid becomes a football star and Tom Brady's kids dump. That's the only that's the only, you know way this goes weird. But he congrats to Gazelle. Saw that just broken the news. So you know, you think think things like that are gonna be devastating, but I've lived it, and you know it's.

Things for a second. You move on with your life.

I'm sure Tom Brady is happy for her, and he moves on and you know he wishes her the best.

It's as simple as let me just say.

Nine months ago must have been a busy time because Aaron Judge became a dad.

I just saw that happened to daddy Yankee is the quote? Yeah, the real daddy Yankee.

So babies being born, super Bowl week and Uvin, I know there's so many things we want to get to and we have it two hours more later on today, like you said on Fox Sports Radio, filling in for Colin Now. Yeah again, I'm Steve Cavino. That is Rich Davis. Danny's getting ready for your Herdline news. Danny G's super producing. Thanks again to Bursch and for fet back at the studio, and thanks again to Travis Matthew for the sweet jacket.

I'm rocking one.

Yeah, but I want to know your thoughts on this. Actually you brought this up to me, Rich, and I feel like you forgot about it. I forget everything in passing you said to me.

Isn't it weak?

Isn't it week the math they're offering refund, I.

Think it's the weakest sauce I've ever heard of, So hold on, I'm trying to break this down too. The Mavericks released some sort of statement that if you're real upset that they got rid of their star player, the franchise player they got rid of Luca, if you are so butt hurt by this, they will offer you a refund. Now I kind of get the thinking because you and I do a Patreon podcast, right, we do our own Patreon. Of course, people complain for whatever reason, like we're customer service. I'm like, did you want a refund? Or if they don't like my opinion on something, I'm like, hey dude, you want to refund?

Uh? Hoock yup?

You know it's a nice way of shutting people up sometimes, So maybe it's as simple as that, Like, well, people take them up on it, though, Like there are times where yeah, some one's like Cavino will hit your take on this, and Kavino will respond dannyg Hey, do you want to send your five or ten bucks back? Hey dude, if you want your five bucks back, I'll send it to you. Seriously, Like I mean it is stop complaining. Yeah, exactly, like I'd rather give you your money back than listen to you complain about nonsense. So it might be a simple way of of doing that. Two layers here for me, go ahead by offering refunds, Like what a Karen of a fan you have to be. And I say that respectfully to all the Karen's out there, What a Darren, What a pain in the ass fan? You dark what to demand a refund? Now that Luca's not on the team, they're still playing. It's not like you're showing up and there's an understudy and you're disappointed. Well, I was gonna say, I have two thoughts. Number One, you're insinuating that you got the weakest end of this trade, right like you're a knitting Anthony Davis is a defensive player of the year.

Anthony Davis is one of the top players, one of the top seventy five.

Means, it's not like Emicks are coming into the thinking here that they got the piece they need to win.

That's the thinking behind it.

So that shows how supportive of a fan you really are to now want your money back. In fact, we mentioned it before during Danny's headline News Herdline News. Ad also waived six million dollars so that the Mavericks could get other pieces that they need.

So like, he's doing everything to benefit.

By offering a refund, You're somehow, in a weird way, admitting we got the weaker end of this trade. And if anything, baby be, you got Anthony Davis, one of the best defensive guys, and you clearly were not happy with Luca and how.

He played defensively.

It's not like you traded Luca for I don't know, so many picks and a player to be named later or some nonsense. This is a monster trade, two stars, right, I mean, am I blaming you for feeling a little confused about it? Like upset about it? You're still processing it. I mean even Patrick Mahomes publicly.

Was like, I'm sick over this trade. I don't know how to feel about it.

I'm sick.

But then once it processed, he's like, oh my guy, admit a d and Kyrie are gonna be nice. Though. I imagine there was a trade in the NFL and it was like, straight up, I'm a Ross Saint Brown straight up for Justin Jefferson and one of the teams like are we'll offer a refund if you're really outsat.

You're the complaining fans. It really is just to shut them up. That's my theory.

And again I'm not blaming anybody if you're a Luca fan like for feeling a little disappointed or feeling shocked or gut punched by the whole situation.

I get that he's your guy, he was your franchise guy.

You thought you were gonna grow old with them. I understand, I understand it. It takes a minute to process. Yeah, said I'd be more upset of a Luca jersey and now it's irrelevant, but demanding refunds the Mavericks being put in a position where they're offering refunds to people that are upset by this.

It's sort of a weak move. It's you're you're.

Accommodating the weakest part of your fan base, because the real thinking should be, Hey, we made the move that we thought was necessary.

Deal with it.

You're not running a team now, you think you know what's best for the team, Get at it. Do you think it was partially a sarcastic yes. If you want to refax my thinking, you could get one your little baby be is that because like I don't have time for sports babies. If you if you are going to cry about this, here's your money back. Because most fans are not gonna be behave that way. They're adjust to the new players on your team. You know this is not the same my dad who's retired, well, every so often Danny g bring his wife into Manhattan to go see a Broadway show.

Oh, my dad going to Broadway.

So my dad, Greg will take his wife into the city. They'll go see a show, get some lunch, retired life, let's be nice, go see Radio City music. Oh, I'll go to go see Hamilton. So my dad and his wife are big fans of Hugh Jackman.

I mean the guy.

I mean he is the greatest show.

I mean he is.

I mean he's a star.

My dad probably paid three or four hundred dollars a ticket to go see Hugh Jackman on Broadway.

I mean he is the headlining name of this product Marque.

But a couple day before the performance. Now this is a couple of years ago. This is like towards the tail end of like the COVID days. I can't wait to see Huge Jackman. There was their dad probably says his name wrong. Huge Jackman, Huge jack Dad, It's huge, Oh, huge Jackman. So my dad seems on like Fox five News in New York, like Hugh Jackman has COVID, he has to cancel a week of shows.

There'll be an understudy. My dad called the box off and he's like.

Yeah, can I want to reschedule my tickets and get new tickets because I think he wanted to see Hug Jacks.

Dad.

That's fair, that's fair. That is not what's happening in Dallas. Right, You're not canceling because you trade a player. They're not replacing Hugh Jackman in this story with Zach Effron, who is also in the Greatest Showman, where it was like, well it's not Hugh Jackman, but he's still a big step Like oh but Brian Kristen will be playing the role, Like right, yeah, yeah, you know in this case, you still get I don't know, Anthony Davis and Kyrie and the rest of the Mavericks that you're supposed to be a fan of.

So again, I do think it's just it's just good pr and a courtesy to.

The whiny, complaining fans, and it just goes to show you the culture we live in where people are so quick to complain and speak to the manager mentality.

It's like, ah, bar, it really is. It's really catering to that type of person.

You could argue it's the super serving of the fans that a guy like Mark Cuban's usually doing. Maybe this is a Mark Cuban, like listen, I'm I'm such the people pleasing owner. Everyone loves Mark Cuban. Everyone wants a guy like him running their team. Maybe it's his way of saying, like listen, there's plenty of people excited. But if you're not, if you want to be a baby, you're catering to sports babies. And the right mentality is simply this. Look, Lakers fans still have to process losing a D. They one with a D. He's been there for what six years? That's Lebron's guy, right. The right mindset is to now look at the Mavericks or the Lakers, But Mavericks in this store with Man, I gotta see how this all unfolds, Like I want to see the chemistry between Kyrie and Ad. You got to be excited about the move that they made, not crying about it moving forward. So anyway, that's the story, and that's our side to it. That's our take on it. The Mavericks are offering refunds to cry baby fans.

That's how I view it.

Get a bunch of babies. Hey, I got a story that I'm gonna add to the Herdline News.

So let's hit it. It's time Herdline news. No, no turd on the news.

This is the Herdline News, all right. Leading headline from Super Bowl week in New Orleans. Fox Sports radio head honcho and Radio Hall of Famer Don Martin says that Rich Davis feeding our boss Scott food was literally the weakest thing he's seen in thirty years of covering the Big Game.

Literally, Yeah, we're gonna cover this later on our show.

I think splitting food with another grown man is totally fun, and then feeding each other as a whole.

Other stories, all right.

As you guys know, the NBA trade deadline is tomorrow, one rumor and one trade. Kd is dealing with a left ankle sprain. It's uncertain whether or not Durant has played his last game for the Suns. Sources say Phoenix has been willing to listen to offers for Kevin Durant In recent days, the Warriors are among the teams with interest.

According to Brian Windhorst.

What about Jimmy Butler, Man, is that window closing on him or is he going suns?

Like?

What's his deal?

No new news on on Butler as a bright hand, he.

Just sort of like becoming too much of a pain in the ass.

Guy.

He always has such a good start and he's so good in the postseason. It's just when things go bad, they go really bad for him.

And I think once he make I heard some reference today like where he makes when he has his mindset on something and that's just how it is.

Yo.

He wants out and that's just how it is. I gotta ask you.

I mean, because again, this is usually around the time where a lot of people start honing into the NBA more because you just had the Super Bowl left and then after that before baseball, it's NBA NBA, some people loving some hockey.

I'll get it this way.

NBA, there's a lot of moves, am I wrung by saying more than the past few years where there's a lot of players that there could be a lot of movement in the next twenty four hours, and I like I like it. I think I'm excited to see some of these new guys on their new teams and see how the second half of the season on Vaults.

I think it could just feel like that too, because we had the biggest trade in all sports for many oh week.

Right, we're getting ready for Sunday Super Bowl. It's media row and we're talking NBA.

That would never happen.

That would never happen.

If that trade didn't happen.

Speaking of that, Shams has more breaking news this morning. The Bucks trade three time All Star Chris Middleton to the Wizards and a deal that sends Kyle Kuzma, former Laker, to Milwaukee.

Middleton is thirty three.

He spent the last eleven plus seasons in Milwaukee, big part of that Bucks championship team. In twenty one, he's averaging just twelve point six points per game the season injuries that plagued him the past few years. Meanwhile, Kuzma is twenty nine, averaging over fifteen points and almost six rebounds. He injects some youth to a Bucks roster that now has a new big three, Jannis Lillard and Kuzma.

Yeah, you know, it's crazy.

We seem to discount that Bucks team with Giannis because they're middle of the pack in the East.

But you make some adjustments, they could rise in the second half. I mean, they're only a couple of years removed from winning a championship.

So into the NFL.

The reason we're here in New Orleans, the back to back Super Bowl MVP Patrick Mahomes expects a different Vic Fangio this Sunday. Every time I've played coach Fangio, there's been different changeups and different things that he's shown us. Mahomes said this morning. I think that's what makes him so great is he's not gonna just do exactly what you saw the last time. I'm sure there's gonna be blitzes during the game. I'm sure there's gonna be times where they play coverage. It's gonna be a chess match. But you want to go up against the best, and he's one of the best defensive coordinators in the league. It'll be a great challenge for us and the refs. Not Mahomes went six and oh, by the way, versus Fangio when he was head coach of the Broncos added two more victories over Miami last year where he worked his defensive coordinator. Only Peyton Manning nine and one has more wins over a Fangio led defense.

Man.

You know, I think I think Patrick's is saying all the right things to be honest. I mean, is there anyone that can really game plan for the magic that Patrick Mahomes seems to bring in the playoffs. He's won, you know, three of the last four Super Bowls going into his fifth one. Here this is you know, we're talking about a guy that beat Kyle Shanahan and great defensive coordinators twice.

He beat the Eagles. You know that one blemish Tom Brady beating him. Besides that he shows up to play.

Yeah, in Covino earlier you said our boys spot was in the bathroom with Gronk at the same time, not together, they just be recide by side. Gronk came out and said the reason he's picking the Chiefs is because of their record versus Fangio, six and Oh Lee.

I haven't checked it out, but I'm pretty sure six and Oh.

I want to add one story to your headline news. Taylor's She's gonna be there in the two.

Okay, we went a whole show bringing her up last year. Show you ruin last year she was there.

She's here now, a two million dollars suite and they're talking about the elevated menu. No, you know what US is going to be there right at the game, your boy Donald Trump dot Donald will be there. Taylor Swift is headed back to the suite and they're saying, here's what's on the menu, lobster keesadilla's.

There's there's a lot of good foot on this menu.

They're saying all types of like Kobe beef, like little sliders and uh, just shrimp cocktail. And they're breaking out all the Cajun creole Southern food for Taylor Swift.

Oh but she'll make me hungry man. She'll be in the booth rooting on her. Dude, Travis Calson.

All right, let's wrap it up with the NBA really quick.

Here.

Last night the Lakers beat the Clippers again at the new Into It Dome ninety seven. We saw Lebron and Lucas sitting together for the first time. There's another story from the game. Even global superstars aren't immune to the occasional case of mistaken identity. Travis Scott learned that firsthand last night as he strolled across the court to Greek fellow spectators. A security guard who clearly didn't recognize the rapper, grabbed him by his jacket, attempting to stop him. The confrontation didn't last long, but other security had to intervene, recognizing Scott and signaling that he did have court side permission. Social media ate this up as many like our boys spot Monday Night at the Superdome, have lacked access at times in their life.

Yeah, it's embarrassing getting denied or stop. So you can imagine a guy like Travis Scott how he feels in that moment. You know, it's like you want to drop who you are, but you don't. At the same time, did you see Jordan's son? He dropped the fact that he was Jordan's son, Yeah, pretty quick.

It's different when you have some cocaine on you, right.

I was curious if you were Michael Jordan's son. I think you almost have to pull out that car because you've you are in trouble. You might get a couple offerses that are like, oh, you're Jordan's Sun, Like I you know, it's embarrassing and it's like a week move. He was in trouble, he was on drugs, but allegedly. I think you have to pull that move. And by the way, speaking to that Taylor Swift food, I'm Sorry'm hungry looking at this.

Colossal Gulf shrimp.

Nine hours smoke short ribs in a Remulod sauce with some get this alligator alligator sauce.

Come Belaiyah beef brisket, our boys.

Sager said he had alligator the other day.

You know, maybe we've got to go get some.

We have two hours in between this show and our other show today on Fox Sports, so maybe some alligator.

We're doing some Fat Guy Radio. Thanks for fat Thanks for the Fat Guy updates. And that was the Herd Line News.

Thanks Danny J.

Well, that's the news, and thanks for stopping by The herd Line News.

All right again, it is Cavino and rich In for Colin on The Herd Live from Media Row super Bowl fifty nine New Orleans, and we still got to talk JD.

Martin and more about the game this weekend.

Of course, we still have two more hours of Covino and rich later on, so we have lots to get to stick around, Jad Martinez, pickleball, What's that about? More?

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And for Colin on the Herd Media right, h yeah, exactly because they were sharing food yesterday at the company dinner. We're live from Radio Row super Bowl fifty nine in New Orleans and big thanks again to everybody hanging out with us. Uh, thank you to Colin for trusting us with his show. We appreciate that Pooka Nakoula who stopped by earlier. If you guys missed it, such a good dude, such good energy. Catch it on the podcast search Covino on Rich. Your boy Fred Warner stopped by. He was super cool dude. And Vince will Fork but a quicker two guys. Hey, if you're new to our show again where Covino and Rich gets see our punchable faces at Covino and Rich and extensive coverage at Fox Sports Radio on social media. But join our show. We're still doing our show live today two to four on the West, five to seven on the East. Right here on Fox Sports Radio. Just search Covino and Rich Revue streaming your podcast. I think I know where Colin really was today. Where you see the Goonies reunion?

Is that where he was?

But no, that's every time I scroll on social media other than super Bowl stuff. CNN even reported a few minutes ago the Goonies never Say Die.

Forty years later, they're all supporting.

Khu Kwan is Khu Kwon Whi Kwan sorry, better known as Short Round Short Round and of course his data. He has another movie out and pretty cool to see all the remaining a live cast members supported him at a movie premiere and they're saying, reunion Goonies two.

Would you be down for that? If it was like their kids and they did it right, if the Goony's kids went on an.

Adventure, there's some movies you just got to leave alone.

They're not all there, though, were Sean Aston, Oh he was in another picture.

He's there.

I saw he was there in this picture. But hey man, it's no reunion at Corey Feldman. I love that guy, Richard A big fan of his music. I heard wait, I thought that was Meghan Rapino. No, he has bleach blonde hair and he's like skinny Net.

I love his rendition of free Bird from Leonard's gar I love his dancers.

Hey, happy fortieth Goonies. By the way, I just saw a headline that I wanted to bring up before you get out of here. Okay, this is a true headline. I thought I was heard line. Yeah, according to Front Office Sports, which is legit, Stephen A.

Smith.

The fact of the matter, Stephen A is emerging as a possible demic cretic emerging.

You do not want to make an enemy out of me.

Stephen emerging as a Democratic candidate for the United States president.

In twenty twenty eight. And why is that a surprise? I mean, Steven A is a pretty big deal. But president, yeah, president may We've seen.

I mean Ronald Reagan was a president. I mean Arnold was a governor. Donald Trump's the president. So I mean, you're right, stranger things have happened, But I'm going to clean up this town. Yeah, I'm a bad man. I'm a bad president. So I mean, we shall say. I just thought, hey, that's that's uh. That was not on my twenty twenty five Bingo card, as they said.

I love that man, stephen A. We we could say we knew him when I know, right? How cool is that?

And something I guess we'll touch on now, but we'll continue on during our regular show. Again, just search Covino and Rich if you're busy later and check our podcast, follow, rate and review, and follow our adventures at Covino and Rich.

JD.

Martinez, this is your boy. And by the way, Rich, speaking of your Mets, they just got rid of Harrison Bader to the Twins. I'm okay with Jay. He was not a factor, No, but he's a good player. So but sometimes that you know a good player doesn't work out. He didn't sniff the postseason, I know, but I know him personally, No, I know him as a Yankees fan, and I know what he's capable of. He's a good player. It's a good move for the Twins. But your boy JD. Martinez, who had his best days in Boston, well you saw that, listen. I'm not being critical because I wish that I would have even played a minute in any professional sport.

J D.

Martinez a legitimate superstar. If you look at his numbers, they're pretty solid. Three hundred and thirty one career home runs a guy bat at two eighty three lifetime. But there was some years there in the end, we're like, you know, he's still batting two seventy thirty home runs, one hundred three.

Ribbi's with the Dodgers a couple of years ago.

Boston. He raked in Boston. He raked in Boston, Detroit, Houston. Last year's a Met apparently, a great team leader in the clubhouse, a guy that gave them Mets some confidence in the whole, Like yo, I here, because you guys are a postseason team. So sometimes a guy's influence and worth is in the postseason as a leader in the clubhouse or during the season is just a veteran voice. But last year, two thirty sixteen home runs just never really clicked with the Mets. So when I hear that he's moving on, makes sense.

It's time. Yeah, he's looking forward. He signed a deal with I don't know if it's j oo La or Jewela.

It's like an equipment company and it's a pickleball professional brand, and he signed with them because he's saying there's no ceiling on his potential in the world of pickleball.

Swing his talents.

Yeah, pretend like you don't have their equipment in your closet.

I'm not familiar with you know what.

I have to be honest.

Why would I lie?

I've never played pickleball ever in my life. Well, you know what, I'm not opposed to it. I'm not taking some weird stands like it's for lo If you want to play pickaball.

You know where you go.

You see Dan Patrick on his set here at Yeah Ball. He has a pick gold ball court and all the dantz are just playing pick a ball. I just thought it was interesting to see the transition because if you missed our Puka Nakoua interview earlier, we said, hey, man, he's a young player. Now what do you think you'll be doing after a lot of times there's an interest in broadcasting or commentary or podcasting. Even Kurt Shilling yesterday was saying he wants to do what we do. He wants to do like a Manning cast for baseball. You know a lot of people think along those lines. Pookakua said, well, look, man, I'm basically still a young man in life. I want to play professional basketball in another country somewhere or so.

Yeah.

His whole playt was, if you know, football is something that you know lasts until he's thirty something.

Like most wide receiver. He was serious about that.

He thinks that he could go play overseas international basketball, national basketball, and he would love to do that.

So to see JD.

Martinez say I'm an old guy on the field, but still a young guy in life. I could compete in pickleball, I think sets a new precedent of Wow, man, We're gonna see a lot of athletes make that transition. I want to just in the world of golf. For international basketball, pickleball could be an option. What I like about that, and what doesn't surprise me is when you're a professional athlete like a JD. Martinez or a Pooka and Nakua or anyone for that matter, from the time you're a little boy, I was just a little boy. From the time you were a little boy until a grown man, all you know is dominating sports because if you made it to the pros, every step of the way from little league to Pop Warner to junior high high school. You dominated, so when you're playing, days are done and you feel like I got athletic gas in the tank. Not surprising that he's like, YO, sign me up, I'm gonna be a pickleball guy. You think you want to just stop athletics exactly? So again, A were we gonna see more of this? Is this the start of something? Stay tuned?

Is pickleball lame? Maybe we'll talk about that on our show.

Cavino and Rich Hey join us in two hours and thanks against everyone for hanging out with us.

Perfect day. Thank you Colin. We'll see it's not at the party until until later on today

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