Hour 3 - Urban Meyer stops by The Herd

Published Jun 10, 2025, 8:25 PM

Colin talks to 3x National Champion head coach Urban Meyer about the changes coming to college football, USC - Notre Dame rivalry and expectations for Arch Manning at Texas

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Urban Meyer now joining us Fox Sports college football analysts. I got a bunch of stuff. I want to talk about big picture and small picture. But I was reading all my college football magazines and the NIL is one thing, the transfer portals another. So Brian Kelly went heavy portal, Lincoln Riley heavy portal, Deon Sanders heavy portal, Belichick heavy portal. You can buy players, you can't buy chemistry. Ohio State has bought elite players. But for some reason, Ryan Day has made it work where they've had an influx of guys. Maybe they just get better guys. But I'm watching a lot of these. I think Lincoln can coach, I think Brian can coach. I think Dion's been a good coach. How is Ohio State use the NIL and it worked for them? It hasn't disrupted chemistry.

You know, a lot of guys equated it to back in the day when Kansas State was getting all those junior college players, and most college coaches avoided that because they didn't want to disrupt their culture. You look up Mike Norvel, that might be the you know, the case study for you take an undefeated team, take a bunch of transfers, and they took some wrong guys. Quite honestly, you watch them play from one year to the other, and they're not even close to what it was. Where you look at Ohio State. I think Ohio State and I've talked to coach Day about this and Mark Pantoni. Their GM is that they have never been more cautious about what they bring into that program. First of all, you don't need to change much. They recruit on a level. They recruit on an incredible way. So if you're going to bring somewey in, you know, I finally I got there at a point a couple of times in my career where do not take that person. If that can disrupt the culture, don't do it. And as a result, we let some good players get away from us. But we're not going to change our culture.

So that's what.

They're doing.

Speaking of Big ten, you know James Franklin very well. College football is going through massive change. And I've said this, I don't care if it's tech, it's AI, it always becomes the wild wild West. Bitcoin will eventually settle down, but when anything's changing, it's wild and you try to get guardrails. Do you think college football has put it enough guardrails when you talk to guys like James Franklin or are they kind of terrified the portal, the nil and where it's going.

I just spoke to James Franklin and we have a great relationship, and the one thing I want to hit is that I'm mesmerized by this whole the new commission that's going to now enforce rules.

And I kind of lost.

It on someone the other day on a podcast where they said, well, finally we have rules and we have guardrails, and I'm like, wait a minute. For forty years they we had to take a test on a three to four inch rule book. We had to sign our name to saying that we're in compliance. It wasn't the fact that there weren't rules. There are rules for everything. There is no comp there was no enforcement. The NCAA could write a book on how not to enforce and how not to investigate, and it was not their fault. They had no subpoena power and there is no It was toothless. Every time they made the decision on infraction case the litigated Tom Mars. I heard that name. You know Tom Mars is going to sue and they lose. So my understanding, Colin, this is the game changer. This new commission is going to have subpoena power that will expediate the process of investigation. And I'm hoping that it also if once you're investigated you don't tell the truth, you know, the punishment's going to be ridiculous and it's not going to be four to five years after the fact. And then they say that the power four conferences. This came from A twelve, the Big twelve commissioner. We spoke to him as well. Is that they're all going to have to sign to be part of this. They're going to sign an agreement that they're going to first follow the rules and they're not going to litigate. If this commission finds a big guilty. I'm skeptical because of forty years of watching it and If that can happen, then you can officially say that college football was in compliance.

I hope it does. Here's my question. I can buy high school players, now, what is I mean? What can't I do? If I can buy players? What is really the death penalty now for college football that a compliance guy comes in and says, okay, coward, that is off limits. What's off limits? Now?

Well, everyone from Texas Tech, we had that coach on our podcast the other day, from Texas Tech to Penn State to Ohio State, Alabama. They have a salary cap it's twenty point five million dollars. Anything above that is nil. But that has to go through Deloitte and they have to They can't give some outrageous number through that collective or through the nil issues. So once again, I'm skeptical as can be. But if this is as a fact, I love what I'm hearing. That means that you cannot go. Ohio State's going to have the same solary cap as Texas Tech. And then the nil on top of that is going to be all scrutinized and you turn into proper paperwork and say we can't give that seventeen year old five million dollars to go do a charity event and sign his name. You know that that's kind of stuff was going on. And so if this is all true Colin what I've heard in the last three days, I'm excited about it, yet extremely skeptical.

Okay, I get a lot of pushback on this. I did not grow up in a family of great tradition. And I've said before, Lincoln Riley's job is to get to the playoff, and Lincoln Riley's like, timeout, I don't get Washington State anymore. I don't get Oregon State, I don't get cow I don't get Arizona. I get I have to go to Madison and ann Arbor and Columbus. And the only teams that came to the Pac twelve, came to the Big ten were Oregon, Washington and my rival. So I don't get any cream puffs. So Lincoln Riley, I don't know if Lincoln Riley's spearheading this, but people at USC are like, so we want another November cold weather game. No, we'll do. We'll play you Notre Dame on a year to your basis, only in September. We'll play in South Bend and Zeid We're not playing in November with the Buckeyes coming up. So my take is this id the oh college football Notre Dame USC. The highest rated game last year was Georgia T It was a non rivalry game. If you if I'm USC, why do I have to play Notre Dame two? Notre Dame won't They won't join a conference. It's on them, not on me? Is it not? It is?

But I coached at Notre Dame, and I guess there's I'm a sixty year old that's probably acted like a seventy five year old because I love it, the pageantry, I love the rivalries. Please don't take away that game. Please don't move the Ohio State Wolverine game the middle of the season. You know, we saw what happened when Texas quit playing Texas A and M. I thought it was awful. Maybe people did it. You know, BYU should be playing Utah. So I hope that doesn't go away. I get it. I understand you're but I'm also saying, if I'm a Notre Dame fan, I'm writing a check. You're playing USC. If I'm a USC fan, you're playing Notre Dame.

Yeah, maybe Notre Dame should consider joining a conference. All you Golden domers out there, we don't need a conference. It's funny how you guys just Notre Dame just signed a twelve year deal with Clemson, and you know why they did that because the ACC staks and they need one great game on their skit. No, that's true, by the way, absolutely correct.

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How much pressure. I saw the over under on USC seven and a half games, and I think that's accurate. I think they're best players of safety. I think they're very very young. I think they're an eight win team. At some point, when's the hammer come down? Or do you think this remains long term? Lincoln is fine? What if they go eight and five? Is that good enough?

Well? I guess the way I've always looked at USC is I equate them to oh State, Alabama, Texas, and Florida. I just I've always looked at USC as one of the top five jobs in America. So I've got a lot of respect for Lincoln Riley, and I never I promised myself, I would never call for jobs because I'm not going to do that. However, when seven eight wins is accepted USC, that's when you you know, I don't know. I don't agree with that. I think you take a five hour you take a five hour net and drop it on USC and you see the best players in the country. So I think this is the year the recruiting. Here's a question about USC. That have the number one recruiting class in the country right now? Should they have that every year? I mean, USC is USC, and I think they're gonna have a great year, and I think we're not after this conversation. But eight and five, go eight and five and Ohio State and see if that happens.

Oh no, it's a whole different ballgame. I want to talk arch Manning for a second because I haven't seen enough of him. But what I see I like, he's put on weight, he moves. Well, if you knew you had Arch Manning and you knew the speculative nature, here comes the media. I remember when you were at Florida you could you could kind of fend off the media. Those days are over. Kids have their social media. You can't that. There's too many platforms, there's too many media people, there's drones everywhere. What do you do if you're sarked? Do you just sort of say, if you're sarked, hey, he's a Manning, He'll be able to handle it. Arch I don't remember, maybe Tebow. I don't remember a college quarterback that was more anticipated to play in twenty years, maybe t Bow than Arch Manning. How did you coach Tebow going into his last year at Florida knowing the onslaught of media and expectations.

Well, quick history lesson. Tebow won the Heisman Trophy of sophomore year, won the National champions junior year, and he was the Golden child. And then all of a sudden people turned on him. You know, he's not an NFL quarterback, he's throwing motions all this, and that we'd win by two scorers against Tennessee and that was enough. T Bo's not playing well, and I saw that the media and the people kind of turned, not not the Gator nation, but the country kind of turned on a little bit. I couldn't understand that, you know, whether it was they criticized his religion or whatever. But my answer would be, you embrace it. I mean, Arch Fanning is there for a reason. It's not because of his last name, because if he was a bad quarterback and he had that last name, then he wouldn't be getting it. He's potentially a great quarterback, embrace it. That's life in the big city, and you're gonna get scrutinized and you can give far too much credit for when the team plays well. So I think Sark Sarks the perfect guy for him. Sarks been in it. He's a quarterback guy's he played quarterback himself, and he's coached at Alabama, so he's got the Arch has got the perfect coach to handle those expectations.

Okay, finally back to Ohio State. They've never won back to back titles and a lot of it is just the reality of that program right like it's And now they've got a Michigan issue, although I think they'll overcome it this year. They have to replace I mean, I think sixteen starters. So it's now they have the two best players in the country in my opinion, Caleb Downs and Smith. So that's a great starting block. And it is Ohio and they recruited at an amazing level, and I think they won a national title yet last year without a great old line, which is hard to do. So I think they'll be better up front. What is your number one concern though? For Ryan Day no back to back natties ever at Ohio State. What is the messaging you think to a team last year that pulverized people in the playoffs, humiliated Tennessee. What's the messaging?

Well, it all starts through the quarterback and they got a new one and they have saying and Klain Holtsen you have you know, but that position's got to get good and get good fast. As they open with Texas. The biggest issue I think is when a team wins a national championship, everything changes. I talked to Joe Madden in twenty to sixteen. He just came off winning a World Series and I went Solomont to Chicago Cubs when he was the manager of the Cubs, and he was miserable and he said, how hard it is to you know, have back to back. It doesn't happen very often. Why because complacency sets in the program. So I think that's Ryan Dage number one, and not so much with the players. He's replacing a bunch of players I'm talking about the coaching staff. I'm talking about everybody in that organization. Is that you know enough of patent on the back that one is ancient history that's over and that's going to be the challenge. And I talked to many coaches have won national titles. Is you know dealing with the complacency that seeps into your program is the biggest issue.

Yeah, by the way, your buddy Belichick, I said yesterday, I think they'll be fine. I don't care about Jordan Hudson. She does his social media stuff, but he does have two of his sons on the staff and one of Mike Lombardi's sons on the staff. And I said, there's nothing against that. Pete Carroll's son was on a staff, and like, I'm not anti that, but I do wonder. It does make me think a little bit when you're building a staff. Bill doesn't. Bill doesn't understand that you got, you know, seventeen hours, kids have class. They're young, less mature, moodier. If I said to you, Bill's going to have one big challenge that's going to surprise him. You've coached both pro and college. Not the stuff that's obvious. But if I said, there's one thing Bill's going to call you in week six and complain about what is it going to be.

I think the difference between an NFL player that's his job and a college kid. Unfortunately, sometimes they don't look at it that way at all. You know, they look at it as this is a means to an end to get an education. And I'm saying, that's great, You're asking me what the What the issue Coach Belichick I think will face. He's the fact that there's gonna be players on the team that don't you know that don't throw everything into it like you do in the NFL. If you don't throw the NFL, you get cut. In college football, you got to motivate and inspire these guys. It is what it is now. You can make a change after the season. But him and his staff are going to have to pull greatness out of people that you know they're they just don't have the same It's not survival in college and I think that'll be his biggest challenge.

Urban Meyer getting any golf.

In a bunch of golf, a bunch of travel grandkids going good.

That's good life, my friend. How about you? I had a terrible round of golf in Rhode Island. I don't want to talk about it, but I got new clubs, so that's my excuse. And I didn't drink. I was just I don't want to talk about it. Was terrible. I couldn't I couldn't find the greens whatever. You know, it's new clubs. That's the new clubs. When they get I get that's right. When I get those grooved, I'll be fine. Uh oh, so do you coach good senior Urban Meyer? Yeah? It is uh the nil, the transfer portal, all that stuff. I love college football. I can't wait to watch Ohio State arch manning USC Notre Dame. You can make all these changes and you can complain about it. I love college football. I'm pouring over my magazines, fly in and hanging out this weekend. I'm all fired up. So did you. I don't know. People complain about all the changes. Never loved it more, never look forward to a season more college football playoff I thought was great last year. Indiana disappointed me. SMU was what they were. But the Ohio States and the Oregons and the Tennessees and the Texas and Notre Dames were great and it's only going to get better.

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Within the last hour, Shane Steichen announced there is no timetable for his return. He's got shoulder shoulder soreness, and remember it's in his surgically repaired throwing shoulder.

Albert Breer reports Richardson.

Is set to meet with a renowned shoulder surgeon for another opinion. This is not good at all for the young star quarterback potential start. I shouldn't call the star.

It's good for the It's good of the Colts because instead of this fantasy that he's a franchise quarterback, they can move on with Daniel Jones. You're already saying.

No shot at being a fantasic quarterback.

No, no, it's listen. When I had a general manager tell me been in this league twenty five years, say he'd never seen a quarterback struggle on the layups and the basics out in the flat easy stuff. More than Anthony Richardson. Remember he only started thirteen games in college. He was a small school kid, a recruit, He was raw. And here's my take. When when Kyle Shanahan couldn't get Trey Lance right, there's a signal it's not going to work. When Shane stikeen this is not a defensive culture. When Shane Steichen can't get improvement, it's over. There are certain there are certain coaches. Sean Payton can fix quarterbacks, Shane Steiken can fix quarterbacks. McVeigh. If they give up Shanahan, it's over. Well, time out.

Sticken has not given up on him yet. They you know, with the shoulder injury and his repair, they brought in Daniel Jones.

Here's the only.

Defense of Richardson and is kind of thin. He has started fifteen games, not even a full season. And I want to remind you one of his comps was he's kind of Josh Allen ish coming out of Wyoming.

Not MVP Josh Allen right.

Coming out of college, Josh Allen couldn't hit the broad side.

Of a barn with a pass.

His completion percentage was in the fifties.

Okay, Richardson is in that boat. And he only has one season under his belt.

I would say he's still gonna get time. Obviously, these injuries not something that Josh Allen had to deal with.

I thought, first of all, Josh Allen was a top ten prospect. Ever Richardson went top five bro No, no, no, Josh Allen was a top ten quarterback prospect. Ever, Russell Wilson had been to two Super Bowls, John Snyder and Pete Carroll went to Wyoming. Josh Allen was a completely different level prospect. Half the league thought Anthony Richardson was a stretch in the first round, and also Josh Allen had a ton of college starts around that really marginal talent. Anthony Richardson was at Florida with the NFL guys around him thirteen starts. So I didn't have a problem drafting him because he was a big, strong kid. You know, every time he heard him talk, he was a nice kid. It seemed like he had his head on straight. But then you start throwing in that thing he did last year where he took himself out of a game. There's just too many red flags and I just don't think judgment so far in his career from the pocket or non pocket has been great.

That's all very fair. You know, he did not have the starts in college. Probably should have stayed in school, but got the NFL.

Hey you're going first round, bro.

Somebody likes you, So I mean I'm bullish on him. I'm not throwing in the towel. Obviously he's a pivotal year. We'll see what happens. Let's go to quarterback you actually like, and that's bow Knicks. He had a fantastic rookie season. Essentially it was basically the second best rookie QB after Jayden Daniels. But bow Knicks, man, I love this attitude.

Colin.

Take a listen.

I haven't done anything up until this point, and I got a lot to prove, lots of shows, so you know, every day it's it's working. Every day, it's find a way to get better, because you don't want to get to you know, year or two or go down the road and you know, all of a sudden you got stuck and didn't get any better. So that's my focus right now, is just not even worried about what people are saying. Just internally, you know, I know I got a long way to go.

I hope everybody notices what they did to their defense. Greenlaw, who funk on the back end. This is gonna be a really good defense. They're not gonna have to win shootouts. Bow Knicks is going to be a playoff quarterback again next year.

Okay, not that out of a take, I will say I like the mindset of bow Knicks. I basically come into work here. I've been on the show, I think two years. I haven't accomplished anything. I got a long way to go. I'm very stay humble, right, Like Kendrick Lamar said, I think bon Nicks is growing on me. By the way, do you remember when he came into the studio, He was like the nicest guy, so quiet. I think he was with his girlfriend, his mom, whatever it was, and like he was just a laid back. You would never guess this guy's gonna be, Oh my god, top fifteen.

Pick, taken a game to the playoffs. Like I was stunned. My favorite part was, I think he had five different offensive coordinators in college, So this kid had constantly sort of have to reinvent an offense Auburn, Oregon, Southwest Coast. I mean, he had your typical successful franchise quarterback, college journey turbulence, coordinators, coaching changes, different conferences. That's the way it works. That's why if you look at a lot of these quarterbacks, they don't come from traditional powers. They have very chaotic journeys. Bone Nicks had sixty one college starts, five different coordinators, two different regions. Liked him more than a lot of the draft people. And I think he's just gonna get better.

By the way.

You like how I'm being positive about all these young quarterbacks. Anthony Richardson Caleb Williams, bow Knicks. I'm pro quarterback. I want to give these guys a chance. Right, you gotta let things bake. I don't know that bow can be like a top five quarterback in the league, but you have to be no.

I think he is exactly what And I heard this before the draft. You know, Kyle Shanahan does not want you add libbing. That's why he loves rock Perty. He made a run at Kirk Cousins like there are You know how they say styles make fights in boxing, styles make quarterbacks. A lot of these coaches do not want you add libbing. Sean Peyton is a play designer and a play caller. Bow Knicks runs the plays and makes the reads he wants to with some mobility. So I think a lot of Peyton bow Knicks is their styles work together.

I do want to see him at play from behind. Uh, I don't think that's gonna be the case this year. A lot of game managing. Bro we got the greatest defense in the league. We don't just don't screw it up. Final story, come Major League Baseball. They're calling this the defensive play of the year. Happened in the first inning last night of A's Angels.

Take a listen the one all Fish and Nolan Shaanival left handed hit or five ball left center Denzel going back here in the track at the track right to the wall, leave.

Big climbing the wall. Did he catch get hit?

Dad?

You can't believe what this kid is doing in center field. He got himself suspended on top of the wall. Had brought it back Brown number two? Every day is a highlight show. Yeah, that's pretty special.

I mean the A's I believe they lost this. Yeah, Angels beat the A's a stink, But that was a hell of a play.

Looked like Spider Man climbing up the wall. There so there was a catch. I bet you's forty years ago, and I bet our staff could find it before the end of the show. In Japanese baseball that were similar. No, I'm dead serious, it happened Broy forty to fifty years ago. When I saw this last night, it made me think of that catch in Japanese baseball. It could have been forty to fifty years ago. Staff YouTube it, go find it and we'll run it before the end of the show. But that's the best catch in baseball in a long time. It's spectacular stuff. Jmack with the news, Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping that. The Herd line news well well, well, more positive news from Dure Sanders. You haters better unite because it's gonna be a long six months watching this show. More positive news on Shador Sanders next.

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Baseball ratings are up. So we showed you. I mean it's almost military grade. Missiles from Shadur Sanders earlier today at a mini camp Mandatory mini camp working with the second team offense, Shaduur Sanders threading the needle up to sidelines. And I know you think I'm embellishing, but here are the numbers. Now, Flacco did not take snaps. It was Dylan Gabriel, Kenny Pickett, and Shador Sanders. Look at the numbers. Chadur once again the most accurate has he thrown in interception in mini camp or OTAs I don't think he has. He was ten for twelve, Kenny Pickett six of ten kind of his career, Dylan Gabriel seven of eighteen. So Schadeur's overall OTA in mini camp numbers seventy four percent completion percentage by far and away the best of all the Browns quarterbacks. Eight touchdown pick that's better than all the other brown quarterbacks. And here we should or're talking about mini camp.

Other few things.

Is I got time.

I got time to be able to grow and mature, you know, and be able to understand the ins and out to the defenses and be able to get the good insight from the bets in the room. So I look at it as you know, a pless like I got time to actually be able to really have a great understanding and whenever you know it's time for me to play on and stuff from your plate. But I'm not looking too far in the future about all that I'm looking about every day in practice.

Listen, there is something to be said about people who accurately throw football, like you can work on it, and Josh Allen is an exception that you come into this league inaccurate and become super accurate. There are guys Joe Burrow jumps to mind, who's just always been pretty accurate, right Like it's you know, Aaron Rodgers very early was just really accurate. Shador Sanders high school, college, and in camp he throws an accurate football. Now there are those who say he holds on the ball too long. You know. I think you can coach yourself. I mean, there's just certain things you can coach up. You can't coach up size, good luck with arm strength. But I think accuracy is another. I think some guys are just accurate. And this kid is Nick Wright. Earlier on the Cleveland quarterback race.

I don't think they're going to keep four quarterbacks. I know historically that's been done on the rare occasion. I don't think they're going to My guess would be Flacco and Picket are competing to be the starter, and whoever is not the starter of those two veterans, the Browns will try to trade one of them for like a conditional seventh to another team. Shaudors for first objective should be can I beat out Dylan Gabriel for the backup quarterback job? Can I, from now until September first be better than Dylan Gabriel?

I think he can. And if you go.

Into this season as the Browns backup quarterback, then you are eventually going to be the Browns starting quarterback.

That there, That's it, uh, And that's the real truth here is if you look at the schedule, this is the weakest roster in the division and it's not particularly close. Not a lot of star power, best players, Miles Garrett buy a lot and that and that schedule. And my take yesterday was Burrow, Lamar Jackson, Jordan Love, Jared Goff. That is a lot of high flying offense. So it is very reasonable to assume that Cleveland's going to be in track meets and they just don't have the firepower to move the ball. And Jimmy haslam that for a month of it. I think they're gonna I think you're gonna get into I think Flacco is gonna start, and I think if they go, they're not gonna beat Cincinnati in Baltimore. They don't have the personnel, they don't have the quarterback. So they're zero and two. Now, maybe they beat Green Bay at home, but they're not going to Detroit, so they're probably at best one in three Minnesota, depending on JJ McCarthy's development. I think by the Minnesota game, I think there's going to be a call from upstairs to the coaching staff. I want to see should or Sanders. And I think Nick Wright is nailing it. Flaco's going to start. You go zero and three with this history and this franchise, somebody else is getting a nod. And Dylan Gabriel to me, is not a starting NFL quarterback. And you key listen. Cleveland's seen Kenny Pickett play. Nobody's getting excited for Kenny Pickett. Part of the NFL When you're a bad team, are are you interesting? Shouldhur is interesting? Is he great? I don't know, he's interesting. Let me just ask yourself. One o'clock window, Week six, Just think about this. It's the one o'clock window. Right, the best games are the Fox or the CBS lag, the Sunday night, the Monday night, Thursday night, one o'clock window, Week six. You got it, Atlanta. You know, think about the teams that would be in there. You got it, Atlanta. Maybe Houston's in there, Maybe Carolina is in there, Tennessee's in there, Cleveland's gonna be in that window. Who's getting you to watch Shodure Sanders? Like, there are some things you can predict. Baker Mayfield in the NFL was gonna get a number, right, Like Caleb Williams with the Bears was gonna get a number. Even Jayden Daniels didn't get the build up of Caleb. Shodore Sanders is gonna get a number. And I think it matters.

Yeah, you think Kevin Stefanski cares about a number. Colin, Colin, you're gonna need Seal Team six to get Dylan Gabriel out of the backup quarterback spot in Cleveland.

He has that thing locked up. People are tagging me online right now in videos.

Hey tell Colin to show this Dylan Gabriel die.

Let me see if he's dropping dimes. Oh, I'm sure we don't have it.

Of course, we own published Chador videos, but I think you're dreaming here. Honestly, this this Chador stuff, Like, I'm rooting for the guy, but he's gonna have to be extraordinary for Dylan Gabriel to lose that backup job because Stefanski loves him.

Well, we only publish verified video. Some of this is AI generated so so, but aren't you at least going to acknowledge that the numbers for Shador sanders Ota to Mini Camp. The numbers are seventy four percent completion percentage and he's working with second teamers.

You know what I like to say about numbers, right, they're like a bikini. They show a lot, but they don't show everything.

So let's not just take this. Oh my gosh, look at the numbers. Hey, it's a lock. I think we listen.

Schador is a fun story, people are. He's no Caitlin Clark in terms of moving the needle.

Let's be real, but he is.

He has more juice than anyone else in his rookie class. I mean, you've got a Bengals guy sitting out upset with the Bengals. You know, there's not even a lot of rookies moving the needle. This cam Ward, where's the video of him in Tennessee?

Call? Have we seen anything again? We do not show AI generated video. Dur stuff makes it through the sun. Hit cright Brew, Kevin Wilds around the corner. It's the herd.

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