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You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Yeah, we love quarterback drama in these waters. All right, let's bring on Tom Pelasarow NFL Network. Try to make some sense of Schadure again. Tom and Tom with some of the greatest hair on television. Listen, you don't want to overreact to ots, it's June. But when Schiduur doesn't get first team reps all of a sudden, it's WHOA wait a minute, they don't like him. What are we supposed to make of it? You cover the league, you know everything start with this.

You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. Yeah, we love quarterback drama in these waters. All right, let's bring on Tom Pelasarow NFL Network. Try to make some sense of Schadure again. Tom and Tom with some of the greatest hair on television. Listen, you don't want to overreact to ots, it's June. But when Schiduur doesn't get first team reps all of a sudden, it's WHOA wait a minute, they don't like him. What are we supposed to make of it? You cover the league, you know everything start with this.

Jason, he's a fifth round pick. You Shador Sanders, He's a fifth round pick. And if you went around the league for the I mean, let's just you know, equated to the twenty three years that I've been covering the league, you'd be hard pressed to find a lot of occasions where a fifth round pick as a rookie was getting first team reps. There have been guys drafted in that similar area who eventually have gotten opportunity.

Jason, he's a fifth round pick. You Shador Sanders, He's a fifth round pick. And if you went around the league for the I mean, let's just you know, equated to the twenty three years that I've been covering the league, you'd be hard pressed to find a lot of occasions where a fifth round pick as a rookie was getting first team reps. There have been guys drafted in that similar area who eventually have gotten opportunity.

Sam Howell toward the end of his rookie year was one, and.

Sam Howell toward the end of his rookie year was one, and.

It's a pretty decent, you know, case study comparison to a Shador Sanders, a guy who was rumored, as you know, first second round pick ight upslide down to the fifth He end up getting his opportunity in a.

It's a pretty decent, you know, case study comparison to a Shador Sanders, a guy who was rumored, as you know, first second round pick ight upslide down to the fifth He end up getting his opportunity in a.

Year two, but in year one he was a backup, you know.

Year two, but in year one he was a backup, you know.

Then throwing the fact that you've got Dylan Gabriel there, who clearly the Browns had rated higher on their board than Shador Sanders, plus the guy they traded for in Kenny Pickett, plus the guy they've gone to the playoffs with in Joe Flacco. And that's without even mentioning Deshan Watson, who you know all likelihood is not going to be available to them in twenty twenty five, but he's continuing to rehab here. It just makes logical sense.

Then throwing the fact that you've got Dylan Gabriel there, who clearly the Browns had rated higher on their board than Shador Sanders, plus the guy they traded for in Kenny Pickett, plus the guy they've gone to the playoffs with in Joe Flacco. And that's without even mentioning Deshan Watson, who you know all likelihood is not going to be available to them in twenty twenty five, but he's continuing to rehab here. It just makes logical sense.

Now. Having said that, a.

Now. Having said that, a.

Lot of times, when you're going through the spring and the way the teams structure their offseason programs, you're installing everything right. Your process of OTAs in mini camp, it's a lot of install and then there's some reviewers. You get into mini camp week, then you come all the way back to training camp and you do it again. So they're exposing him to a lot of different types of things. Here, they're exposing all the quarterbacks to different things. They're seeing how they react. I've said this consistently, Jason. I think that's the important thing to remember. Let's see how the reps are divided those first two to three weeks of training camp and then up to and the week beyond the first preseason game. That's going to give you a much clearer picture of exactly where things stand. Is it going to be the chalk starter, which you have to say, is Joe Flacco again based upon the experience that he's got in that system and they know what they're going to get for him, do you potentially see somebody else starting to slip in and getting those first team reps?

Lot of times, when you're going through the spring and the way the teams structure their offseason programs, you're installing everything right. Your process of OTAs in mini camp, it's a lot of install and then there's some reviewers. You get into mini camp week, then you come all the way back to training camp and you do it again. So they're exposing him to a lot of different types of things. Here, they're exposing all the quarterbacks to different things. They're seeing how they react. I've said this consistently, Jason. I think that's the important thing to remember. Let's see how the reps are divided those first two to three weeks of training camp and then up to and the week beyond the first preseason game. That's going to give you a much clearer picture of exactly where things stand. Is it going to be the chalk starter, which you have to say, is Joe Flacco again based upon the experience that he's got in that system and they know what they're going to get for him, do you potentially see somebody else starting to slip in and getting those first team reps?

Have you seen it in training camp? That's going to be the clear indicator.

Have you seen it in training camp? That's going to be the clear indicator.

But you know the fact that Ota Shador Sanders is not the top to depth chart.

But you know the fact that Ota Shador Sanders is not the top to depth chart.

That shouldn't shock anybody.

That shouldn't shock anybody.

Because regardless of what his name is, he's a fifth round pick, and those guys just don't get spring opportunities to show that they can run the ones.

Because regardless of what his name is, he's a fifth round pick, and those guys just don't get spring opportunities to show that they can run the ones.

A great point. Thank you for writing the clarity.

A great point. Thank you for writing the clarity.

There's a lot of Schidure slash Dion fans out there who just don't want to hear that.

There's a lot of Schidure slash Dion fans out there who just don't want to hear that.

Now there is a world where Pickett don't.

Now there is a world where Pickett don't.

I don't see Flako, but maybe Pickett gets flipped to another team that needs a quarterback. And we just got word this morning that Shane Steichen revealed that Anthony Richardson has a shoulder issue. Now they're not really talking to in depth. I'm sure maybe you've heard more, Tom, but Anthony Richardson will not be doing any activity here for a minute. And uh, that doesn't sound great given his injury history last year with the Colts.

I don't see Flako, but maybe Pickett gets flipped to another team that needs a quarterback. And we just got word this morning that Shane Steichen revealed that Anthony Richardson has a shoulder issue. Now they're not really talking to in depth. I'm sure maybe you've heard more, Tom, but Anthony Richardson will not be doing any activity here for a minute. And uh, that doesn't sound great given his injury history last year with the Colts.

So my understanding, Jason is that this is not, you know, a huge blinking red light type of awarding here on Anthony Richardson. He had the ac joint injury last year. He's been dealing with the shoulder through the off season. Neil Alatrash, the famed surgeon, basically the advice was hey went in doubt rested here. The Colts doctors have been on board with the plan all along. Everybody's communicating here. I was told this morning one thousand percent Anthony Richardson's going to be ready to roll when we come to training camp. But certainly it's cast in a different light when you suddenly have a legitimate player to try to beat him out. This isn't Gardner Minshew, this isn't Joe Flacco. This is Daniel Jones, who was a first round draft pick and his one games in the league's won a playoff game in his time with the Giants, and somebody that the coaching staff in Indianapolis really liked when they were looking for who's going to be the right player, the right veteran to challenge Anthony Richardson.

So my understanding, Jason is that this is not, you know, a huge blinking red light type of awarding here on Anthony Richardson. He had the ac joint injury last year. He's been dealing with the shoulder through the off season. Neil Alatrash, the famed surgeon, basically the advice was hey went in doubt rested here. The Colts doctors have been on board with the plan all along. Everybody's communicating here. I was told this morning one thousand percent Anthony Richardson's going to be ready to roll when we come to training camp. But certainly it's cast in a different light when you suddenly have a legitimate player to try to beat him out. This isn't Gardner Minshew, this isn't Joe Flacco. This is Daniel Jones, who was a first round draft pick and his one games in the league's won a playoff game in his time with the Giants, and somebody that the coaching staff in Indianapolis really liked when they were looking for who's going to be the right player, the right veteran to challenge Anthony Richardson.

Now, all those first team reps you would presume.

Now, all those first team reps you would presume.

Go to Daniel Jones in mini caamp, and again anytime we're talking about these battles, they're going to be sorted out in training camp. But the bottom line is, when you're watching one guy get all the reps, if you feel good about it the way that your brain is thinking for the next six weeks leading up to training camp, Daniel Jones has an opportunity to influence that here over the next week.

Go to Daniel Jones in mini caamp, and again anytime we're talking about these battles, they're going to be sorted out in training camp. But the bottom line is, when you're watching one guy get all the reps, if you feel good about it the way that your brain is thinking for the next six weeks leading up to training camp, Daniel Jones has an opportunity to influence that here over the next week.

Now, I do recall Steichen had a ton of success. I believe Jalen Hurts and Philly and everybody thought, oh, running quarterback, it's going to work. With Richardson, it really hasn't so far. Is that cause for concern with the injuries?

Now, I do recall Steichen had a ton of success. I believe Jalen Hurts and Philly and everybody thought, oh, running quarterback, it's going to work. With Richardson, it really hasn't so far. Is that cause for concern with the injuries?

Well, Anthony Richardson, I wouldn't even consider Jason a running quarterback so much as he was a big raw athlete. You just don't get six foot five, two hundred and fifty pound guys who have absolute candidates for arms. We started thirteen games in college. It was a massive projection. They're sitting there with the number four overall pick. They weren't going to be able in that draft to get Bryce Young or get c J.

Well, Anthony Richardson, I wouldn't even consider Jason a running quarterback so much as he was a big raw athlete. You just don't get six foot five, two hundred and fifty pound guys who have absolute candidates for arms. We started thirteen games in college. It was a massive projection. They're sitting there with the number four overall pick. They weren't going to be able in that draft to get Bryce Young or get c J.

Stroud.

Stroud.

Who's really you take Anthony Richardson or do you take Will Levis. They had pressure on them because they've been going the veteran route through you know, the Carson Wentzes and Philip Rivers and Matt Ryans of the world. Chris Baller needed to draft the quarterback here. And you understood it from an upside perspective with Anthony Richardson.

Who's really you take Anthony Richardson or do you take Will Levis. They had pressure on them because they've been going the veteran route through you know, the Carson Wentzes and Philip Rivers and Matt Ryans of the world. Chris Baller needed to draft the quarterback here. And you understood it from an upside perspective with Anthony Richardson.

But you know, as much as.

But you know, as much as.

The ceiling was high, the floor was low, and we really still don't have an idea of exactly what direction he's going to go because he flat out hasn't been on the field. When you're a guy who just needs reps above all else, spending a lot of time in the training room is going to hinder that development because you're just not getting those types of opportunities here. So yeah, that was certainly part of the the consideration was the success with an athletic type quarterback. Will Levis is a really good athlete too. Nobody's built like Jalen Purson, but you thought there'd be some similar elements you might be able to unleash here. The bottom line is Anthony Richardson has missed so much time in his young career for a guy who also missed time and didn't play a whole lot in college, he's just he's a complete enigma.

The ceiling was high, the floor was low, and we really still don't have an idea of exactly what direction he's going to go because he flat out hasn't been on the field. When you're a guy who just needs reps above all else, spending a lot of time in the training room is going to hinder that development because you're just not getting those types of opportunities here. So yeah, that was certainly part of the the consideration was the success with an athletic type quarterback. Will Levis is a really good athlete too. Nobody's built like Jalen Purson, but you thought there'd be some similar elements you might be able to unleash here. The bottom line is Anthony Richardson has missed so much time in his young career for a guy who also missed time and didn't play a whole lot in college, he's just he's a complete enigma.

At this point. You know, I don't put the bus label on him. We just don't know what he is. And until he's actually able to stay on the field and show some of that progression, that's where he's going to stay.

At this point. You know, I don't put the bus label on him. We just don't know what he is. And until he's actually able to stay on the field and show some of that progression, that's where he's going to stay.

Truck with Tom Pella Sero NFL Network. All right, Tom, let me ask you c J. Stroud Also, we got word this week he's dealing with shoulder soreness. Can you for foot for football people, can you put that in lingos to what that means?

Truck with Tom Pella Sero NFL Network. All right, Tom, let me ask you c J. Stroud Also, we got word this week he's dealing with shoulder soreness. Can you for foot for football people, can you put that in lingos to what that means?

In June, Well, we had I.

In June, Well, we had I.

Think report Sayans a peck, we had report Sayants' shoulder. We got Jamiko Ryans going full NHL and saying general body soreness. It doesn't sound like it's a big deal. Again, we're in June, You're not playing games in June. You got three months until this thing kicks off, and so if there's any types of an issue, you're going to hold back on a guy who as important to your team as CJ. Stroud when it comes to the spring. But we also know shoulder injuries have a habit of lingering, which is also why you back off. Whether it's Richardson, whether it's Stroud, whether it's anybody else. You back off those things in the spring just because, yeah, those reps are important, but they're not nearly as important as being available in the fall. I would say, you know, let's keep an eye on it as we get to start a training camp.

Think report Sayans a peck, we had report Sayants' shoulder. We got Jamiko Ryans going full NHL and saying general body soreness. It doesn't sound like it's a big deal. Again, we're in June, You're not playing games in June. You got three months until this thing kicks off, and so if there's any types of an issue, you're going to hold back on a guy who as important to your team as CJ. Stroud when it comes to the spring. But we also know shoulder injuries have a habit of lingering, which is also why you back off. Whether it's Richardson, whether it's Stroud, whether it's anybody else. You back off those things in the spring just because, yeah, those reps are important, but they're not nearly as important as being available in the fall. I would say, you know, let's keep an eye on it as we get to start a training camp.

If CJ.

If CJ.

Stroud is ramped up to a full go within the first week of camp, I wouldn't say that's a big concern. If we get several weeks into camp and they're still holding back on his throwing regimen, then there might be a little bit more to it.

Stroud is ramped up to a full go within the first week of camp, I wouldn't say that's a big concern. If we get several weeks into camp and they're still holding back on his throwing regimen, then there might be a little bit more to it.

All Right, let's go to a team, you know, well, Minnesota Vikings that wanted an impassion rant about how I believe in jj McCarthy. Hey, Jim Harball believes in him. Kevin O'Connell believes in him. And starting to get some pushbacks from some people offline. What are you hearing about McCarthy's situation in Minnesota, his recovery from the surgeries.

All Right, let's go to a team, you know, well, Minnesota Vikings that wanted an impassion rant about how I believe in jj McCarthy. Hey, Jim Harball believes in him. Kevin O'Connell believes in him. And starting to get some pushbacks from some people offline. What are you hearing about McCarthy's situation in Minnesota, his recovery from the surgeries.

I mean, hasn't thrown an NF i'll pass yet. How are things going for him?

I mean, hasn't thrown an NF i'll pass yet. How are things going for him?

Well, first off, Jason, he's put them He's put the weight back on. We all saw him on the sideline last year when he's we weighing like a buck seventy or something. He's put the weight back on. He's upwards to two hundred pounds. He looks a lot better physically at this point. And everything I've been told is that he's, you know, essentially full go in terms of doing football activities through the spring. Here now there's no contact in the spring, we'll see you know how cautious if that all the vikings are when we get into training camp. But in terms of how JJ McCarthy has embraced everything from learning the offense to you know, I was at the Warriors Wolves game five in front and center at center courts Justin Jefferson sitting next to JJ McCarthy, and I said to Justin, you know, hey, like, you know, it's interesting.

Well, first off, Jason, he's put them He's put the weight back on. We all saw him on the sideline last year when he's we weighing like a buck seventy or something. He's put the weight back on. He's upwards to two hundred pounds. He looks a lot better physically at this point. And everything I've been told is that he's, you know, essentially full go in terms of doing football activities through the spring. Here now there's no contact in the spring, we'll see you know how cautious if that all the vikings are when we get into training camp. But in terms of how JJ McCarthy has embraced everything from learning the offense to you know, I was at the Warriors Wolves game five in front and center at center courts Justin Jefferson sitting next to JJ McCarthy, and I said to Justin, you know, hey, like, you know, it's interesting.

In your next to him.

In your next to him.

He's like, Hey, I feel like I want to bring him out in the world. The fact that Justin is kind of rallying around him, he's at the OTA's developing chemistry with his new quarterback. I would not overlook that in terms of the belief that teammates have in him. Certainly the front office has a high degree of belief in j J.

He's like, Hey, I feel like I want to bring him out in the world. The fact that Justin is kind of rallying around him, he's at the OTA's developing chemistry with his new quarterback. I would not overlook that in terms of the belief that teammates have in him. Certainly the front office has a high degree of belief in j J.

McCarthy.

McCarthy.

That's why they traded up one spot to go get him in the draft a year ago. There's a huge unknown when you're talking about a guy who not only didn't play as a rookie, we didn't have any reps Jason. I mean, he tore them Inniscus in the first preseason again missed the entire year. There's a lot he had to go through there was a second procedure that he had to have in December, but everything from a physical perspective is tracking now. It's just in an offense where we've seen different quarterbacks Kirk Cousins, Sam Darnold play at least statistically the best football of their lives. Let's see if JJ McCarthy could elevate his game once those live bullets start five.

That's why they traded up one spot to go get him in the draft a year ago. There's a huge unknown when you're talking about a guy who not only didn't play as a rookie, we didn't have any reps Jason. I mean, he tore them Inniscus in the first preseason again missed the entire year. There's a lot he had to go through there was a second procedure that he had to have in December, but everything from a physical perspective is tracking now. It's just in an offense where we've seen different quarterbacks Kirk Cousins, Sam Darnold play at least statistically the best football of their lives. Let's see if JJ McCarthy could elevate his game once those live bullets start five.

All right, going off the board here, Tom NFC North is loaded kindly ranked the quarterbacks heading into this season in the NFC North.

All right, going off the board here, Tom NFC North is loaded kindly ranked the quarterbacks heading into this season in the NFC North.

It's very tough. I think I've done this with three people and all of them gave different answers.

It's very tough. I think I've done this with three people and all of them gave different answers.

Well, I think that the guy that you have to look at is Jordan Love first and foremost in terms of a young player who is on the ascent. He dealt with injuries last year. I mean that injury that he had in the opener in Brazil was no joke. Took him a few weeks to get back, battled through it probably wasn't one hundred percent, then got banged up again later in the season here. But the Jordan Love that we've seen at his best, the Jordan Love we saw down the stretch in twenty twenty three that last throw against the forty nine ers. Now with standing, that's a really really good quarterback. Jared Goff is obviously one at a really high level. Guy's been to the Super Bowl. He's played really good football for the Lions. You know, I mean, I'm not giving you a hot take here, Jason, but you say one game with one of those two guys, I'd say, Well, the guy who's done it before is Jared Goff, but the guy you probably trust more in the Skiell set is Jordan Love. So those guys are probably one A, one B, however you want to rank them. JJ McCarthy is a total unknown. Like I said, he has not taken a regular season snap. He's only taken preseason snaps in one game. Let's see where we are with him when we get into the season. And then Caleb Williams I would still put in the unknown bucket because Mancy suck.

Well, I think that the guy that you have to look at is Jordan Love first and foremost in terms of a young player who is on the ascent. He dealt with injuries last year. I mean that injury that he had in the opener in Brazil was no joke. Took him a few weeks to get back, battled through it probably wasn't one hundred percent, then got banged up again later in the season here. But the Jordan Love that we've seen at his best, the Jordan Love we saw down the stretch in twenty twenty three that last throw against the forty nine ers. Now with standing, that's a really really good quarterback. Jared Goff is obviously one at a really high level. Guy's been to the Super Bowl. He's played really good football for the Lions. You know, I mean, I'm not giving you a hot take here, Jason, but you say one game with one of those two guys, I'd say, Well, the guy who's done it before is Jared Goff, but the guy you probably trust more in the Skiell set is Jordan Love. So those guys are probably one A, one B, however you want to rank them. JJ McCarthy is a total unknown. Like I said, he has not taken a regular season snap. He's only taken preseason snaps in one game. Let's see where we are with him when we get into the season. And then Caleb Williams I would still put in the unknown bucket because Mancy suck.

Caleb Williams played pretty good football last year.

Caleb Williams played pretty good football last year.

And if you look at really ramping up to that game against the Commanders that everybody remembers for Tyreek Stevenson taunting the fans and they hit the Hail Mary. If that game goes the other way, Jason, it's the Bears that are in first place in the NFC North. The Commanders take a huge loss on their home field. Where's the rest of that season go? The Bears didn't win another game. Matt Everfluss got fired before they won another game and Week eight team against the Packers. But Kale was on the ascent. You saw it like weeks three, four five. You saw him play it better and better football. I am fascinated to see what Ben Johnson is going to be able to do with him.

And if you look at really ramping up to that game against the Commanders that everybody remembers for Tyreek Stevenson taunting the fans and they hit the Hail Mary. If that game goes the other way, Jason, it's the Bears that are in first place in the NFC North. The Commanders take a huge loss on their home field. Where's the rest of that season go? The Bears didn't win another game. Matt Everfluss got fired before they won another game and Week eight team against the Packers. But Kale was on the ascent. You saw it like weeks three, four five. You saw him play it better and better football. I am fascinated to see what Ben Johnson is going to be able to do with him.

I'm fascinating to see.

I'm fascinating to see.

What without Ben Johnson the Lions are going to do with Jared Goff. I would just say for me in terms of the trajectory the upside, knowing how Matt lafleuor coaches him, it's hard to bet against Jordan Love is the top quarterback within the division.

What without Ben Johnson the Lions are going to do with Jared Goff. I would just say for me in terms of the trajectory the upside, knowing how Matt lafleuor coaches him, it's hard to bet against Jordan Love is the top quarterback within the division.

But when we got multiple guys that we just haven't.

But when we got multiple guys that we just haven't.

Seen do it, at least for any extended period yet, that those rankings could be all over the place.

Seen do it, at least for any extended period yet, that those rankings could be all over the place.

By Stem all right, Tom Pellasaro, NFL Network, Great stuff, Enjoy the offseason.

By Stem all right, Tom Pellasaro, NFL Network, Great stuff, Enjoy the offseason.

I'll talk to you soon. Tom.

I'll talk to you soon. Tom.

You got Chase Naytom all right.

You got Chase Naytom all right.

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Good stuff from Tom Pellisso I don't know about this Colts quarterback situation.

Good stuff from Tom Pellisso I don't know about this Colts quarterback situation.

I guess we'll find out about the injury soon.

I guess we'll find out about the injury soon.

Let's go to Alex Cury with the news.

Let's go to Alex Cury with the news.

No, no, turn on the news. This is the Herd Line News.

No, no, turn on the news. This is the Herd Line News.

Now we're gonna start with the Colts quarterback situation because Anthony Richardson is suffering from a shoulder injury, per head coach Shane Steiken. Now, apparently Richardson felt soreness from his surgically repaired acy joint after an OTA practice last week. Colts have an OTA practice on Thursday and then three veteran mini camp practices next week. There's no timetable at the moment for richard Since return, but the team does not think.

Now we're gonna start with the Colts quarterback situation because Anthony Richardson is suffering from a shoulder injury, per head coach Shane Steiken. Now, apparently Richardson felt soreness from his surgically repaired acy joint after an OTA practice last week. Colts have an OTA practice on Thursday and then three veteran mini camp practices next week. There's no timetable at the moment for richard Since return, but the team does not think.

He'll require surgery.

He'll require surgery.

So Jim mc never a good sign when there's no timeline, especially when it's on an existing injury. However, he was told by doctors win in doubt, just rest it. We still got a couple months for the start of the season. But when you look at his two year career so far, he's only played fifteen games in two seasons, four games in his rookie year, eleven games.

So Jim mc never a good sign when there's no timeline, especially when it's on an existing injury. However, he was told by doctors win in doubt, just rest it. We still got a couple months for the start of the season. But when you look at his two year career so far, he's only played fifteen games in two seasons, four games in his rookie year, eleven games.

In year two.

In year two.

And he has a lookit competition this year, like kind of with Daniel Jones there, who's been a starting quarterback, has a lot to prove this season. But another interesting thing here, Okay, the last quarterback that started for Indy besides Richardson and Camp, should the Colts trade for flat Goo?

And he has a lookit competition this year, like kind of with Daniel Jones there, who's been a starting quarterback, has a lot to prove this season. But another interesting thing here, Okay, the last quarterback that started for Indy besides Richardson and Camp, should the Colts trade for flat Goo?

Oh?

Oh?

I know, I know who wedged that in me?

I know, I know who wedged that in me?

Yeah he did.

Yeah he did.

I didn't think they should trade for Flack. Okay, let me back up.

I didn't think they should trade for Flack. Okay, let me back up.

So you were a big time soccer player, you had surgeries.

So you were a big time soccer player, you had surgeries.

I'm assuming I never had.

I'm assuming I never had.

Surgery, really, but I tore all the.

Surgery, really, but I tore all the.

Ligaments angle and you just decided let it.

Ligaments angle and you just decided let it.

He did.

He did.

I didn't know surgerated because I just wonder.

I didn't know surgerated because I just wonder.

You mentioned a good point that, like listen man, they just signed Daniel Jones.

You mentioned a good point that, like listen man, they just signed Daniel Jones.

That's what he hasn't been a starter.

That's what he hasn't been a starter.

He has and he has wanted to prove. He wants to prove that he can still be a start.

He has and he has wanted to prove. He wants to prove that he can still be a start.

If you're Richardson coming off of surgery, you want to get out there and get your job.

If you're Richardson coming off of surgery, you want to get out there and get your job.

Yeah, but you're not getting You're not guaranteed Q one reps right out of the gate like you have Daniel Jones.

Yeah, but you're not getting You're not guaranteed Q one reps right out of the gate like you have Daniel Jones.

You can't.

You can't.

But you also don't want to push it and re injure it because he was told by doctors when and Dow rested.

But you also don't want to push it and re injure it because he was told by doctors when and Dow rested.

And it's like this guy's twenty two. He's but like a tank.

And it's like this guy's twenty two. He's but like a tank.

He's played, he's played fifteen games in two seasons.

He's played, he's played fifteen games in two seasons.

He's been injured.

He's been injured.

Maybe not in all plastic tank, Yeah, a delicate tank. I just I would what do you do? How is this?

Maybe not in all plastic tank, Yeah, a delicate tank. I just I would what do you do? How is this?

But I will watch Anthony Richardson, yeah, play quarterback.

But I will watch Anthony Richardson, yeah, play quarterback.

I will not watch any dings I've seen that.

I will not watch any dings I've seen that.

It's well, yeah, there's Richardson's electric Yeah, and there's hope, Like there's when you watch him it's like, oh, maybe he can do this, but can't he stay healthy? That's also playing a really big thing for young athletes. You like have an injury pass and his NFL career has been injury pro so far.

It's well, yeah, there's Richardson's electric Yeah, and there's hope, Like there's when you watch him it's like, oh, maybe he can do this, but can't he stay healthy? That's also playing a really big thing for young athletes. You like have an injury pass and his NFL career has been injury pro so far.

Richardson's a guy who will throw a seventy yard bomb in the air.

Richardson's a guy who will throw a seventy yard bomb in the air.

Yeah, and on the next play run over a linebacker at the gold line.

Yeah, and on the next play run over a linebacker at the gold line.

Like that's what I want to see.

Like that's what I want to see.

I don't, okay, but he's got to also be healthy to play.

I don't, okay, but he's got to also be healthy to play.

By the way, what do you think of the nickname for Daniel Jones Vanilla Vick?

By the way, what do you think of the nickname for Daniel Jones Vanilla Vick?

Have you heard that one?

Have you heard that one?

No?

No?

What?

What?

I don't know. It was a nickname back in New York for him? Was it because he was like running memory and okay? Sorry, like Mike is abound funny the first time I heard him?

I don't know. It was a nickname back in New York for him? Was it because he was like running memory and okay? Sorry, like Mike is abound funny the first time I heard him?

Absolutely not, I know, I'm okay. Let's move to the NBA jack like this one.

Absolutely not, I know, I'm okay. Let's move to the NBA jack like this one.

Draymond Green might have had a hotter NBA take than you this week. Take a listen to Draymond talking about winning and losing championships.

Draymond Green might have had a hotter NBA take than you this week. Take a listen to Draymond talking about winning and losing championships.

Would you want to be quite honest with you, I personally think making to the NBA Finals is one.

Would you want to be quite honest with you, I personally think making to the NBA Finals is one.

Of the worst seasons you can have.

Of the worst seasons you can have.

Going to the NBA Finals and winning an NBA championship, those two things are so far apart. Like, you can get to the NBA Finals and not be close to winning an NBA Championship. And I know that may sound hard for people to leave, but those that have won championships would definitely understand what I'm saying. And those that have been there and didn't quite win would definitely understand what I'm saying. It's those two things are so drastically far apart.

Going to the NBA Finals and winning an NBA championship, those two things are so far apart. Like, you can get to the NBA Finals and not be close to winning an NBA Championship. And I know that may sound hard for people to leave, but those that have won championships would definitely understand what I'm saying. And those that have been there and didn't quite win would definitely understand what I'm saying. It's those two things are so drastically far apart.

No, this doesn't make sense.

No, this doesn't make sense.

You are the second closest team to get to an NBA Championship.

You are the second closest team to get to an NBA Championship.

Would you rather to have love and lost than to have never loved at all?

Would you rather to have love and lost than to have never loved at all?

It's like one of those, would you want to get there and have a chance to win, or like, no, you don't even have a chance if you're not in the NBA.

It's like one of those, would you want to get there and have a chance to win, or like, no, you don't even have a chance if you're not in the NBA.

VI romantic always.

VI romantic always.

Always, So I noticed staff experience something when I bring up my men's league at basketball.

Always, So I noticed staff experience something when I bring up my men's league at basketball.

Uh huh.

Uh huh.

So we had a stack team with Richard Jefferson.

So we had a stack team with Richard Jefferson.

We lose an unbelievable turn of events in the final ten seconds, so we were like, we're gonna get the next one.

We lose an unbelievable turn of events in the final ten seconds, so we were like, we're gonna get the next one.

We go back to next year, a bunch of our guys get hurt.

We go back to next year, a bunch of our guys get hurt.

We lose in the champion at RJ on your team not the second year.

We lose in the champion at RJ on your team not the second year.

Okay, after the back to back championship losses. We took off a season.

Okay, after the back to back championship losses. We took off a season.

I couldn't take it. Losing in the championship is so painful. You lose in the first round, it's like who cares?

I couldn't take it. Losing in the championship is so painful. You lose in the first round, it's like who cares?

No, But I can under that's being a sore loser. You have to experience loss to know what it takes to win. That's when you build up your strength. It's when you're down in the ditch and when you've experienced. I don't want to feel that feeling again. I never want to feel that lost feeling again. So I'm gonna do everything in my power not to feel that loss. And that's added motivation to get back and actually win a championship.

No, But I can under that's being a sore loser. You have to experience loss to know what it takes to win. That's when you build up your strength. It's when you're down in the ditch and when you've experienced. I don't want to feel that feeling again. I never want to feel that lost feeling again. So I'm gonna do everything in my power not to feel that loss. And that's added motivation to get back and actually win a championship.

You're running away from.

You're running away from.

No No. We came back pushing so hard.

No No. We came back pushing so hard.

Four of us, including myself, got injuries, and at this point, I'm just so ticked. We dropped out of the league this season, and it's disappointing because the team we usually smashed on defeated. They're gonna whin and nobody cares that.

Four of us, including myself, got injuries, and at this point, I'm just so ticked. We dropped out of the league this season, and it's disappointing because the team we usually smashed on defeated. They're gonna whin and nobody cares that.

This is weird.

This is weird.

I understand where Draymond's coming from. I know people will disagree. I didn't look on to see this on the line or online or people just crushing him for this.

I understand where Draymond's coming from. I know people will disagree. I didn't look on to see this on the line or online or people just crushing him for this.

I haven't I haven't looked at the comments, but I don't agree with what he's saying. I think that's the wrong mentality. You want it, like if if you want to reach the top of the mountain, you got to get close and you got to try, and you gotta fail getting there. Like, oh, I've only even knocked out of the first round. Oh wait, I've made it to the finals, haven't.

I haven't I haven't looked at the comments, but I don't agree with what he's saying. I think that's the wrong mentality. You want it, like if if you want to reach the top of the mountain, you got to get close and you got to try, and you gotta fail getting there. Like, oh, I've only even knocked out of the first round. Oh wait, I've made it to the finals, haven't.

Well, yeah, I think I know what.

Well, yeah, I think I know what.

It tastes to get there.

It tastes to get there.

I think that's a little different.

I think that's a little different.

I think it if you lose in the first round, it it's almost better.

I think it if you lose in the first round, it it's almost better.

If that makes any sense. No, it's not.

If that makes any sense. No, it's not.

If you go to the finals and lose, it is so painful.

If you go to the finals and lose, it is so painful.

Yeah, but then it's also it should motivate you to get back and do it better next.

Yeah, but then it's also it should motivate you to get back and do it better next.

But yeah, the motivation, sure, But like.

But yeah, the motivation, sure, But like.

I've lost in finals, I've won finals, I've lost in finals in my college career. You never want to experience that again. So you're gonna do everything in your power to not feel that way and use it as motivation to get back.

I've lost in finals, I've won finals, I've lost in finals in my college career. You never want to experience that again. So you're gonna do everything in your power to not feel that way and use it as motivation to get back.

Right.

Right.

Yeah, it's just a tough discuss. Can we get Draymond on? Can you talk to him as your guy.

Yeah, it's just a tough discuss. Can we get Draymond on? Can you talk to him as your guy.

Yeah, I don't.

Yeah, I don't.

I like that on it. That's an interesting topic.

I like that on it. That's an interesting topic.

It is. It's very interesting.

It is. It's very interesting.

I'm on the other side of You're obviously on his side. I'm on the other side. But let's wrap things up in Buffalo. Bill's quarterback Josh Allen had the best season of his career last year, but I've had this. Coordinator Joe Brady says that Josh is even more driven than he was last year. Take a listen Grady to talk about the raining MVT.

I'm on the other side of You're obviously on his side. I'm on the other side. But let's wrap things up in Buffalo. Bill's quarterback Josh Allen had the best season of his career last year, but I've had this. Coordinator Joe Brady says that Josh is even more driven than he was last year. Take a listen Grady to talk about the raining MVT.

What I love about Josh Josh is his demeanor, his approach, his mindset. I mean, it is as impressive as it gets and it's infectious around that around the team. So when he walks in the building, you don't see a guy that you don't feel the guy I just won the MVP last year, and it's like, oh, you know what, like I'm good. You feel a guy that's hungry and is trying to figure out ways to get better and embracing his new teammates.

What I love about Josh Josh is his demeanor, his approach, his mindset. I mean, it is as impressive as it gets and it's infectious around that around the team. So when he walks in the building, you don't see a guy that you don't feel the guy I just won the MVP last year, and it's like, oh, you know what, like I'm good. You feel a guy that's hungry and is trying to figure out ways to get better and embracing his new teammates.

Josh Allen and the Bills are favored in every game this year. This is the year to get it done. The target is on their back. We know how great Josh Allen is obviously he's the reigning MVP.

Josh Allen and the Bills are favored in every game this year. This is the year to get it done. The target is on their back. We know how great Josh Allen is obviously he's the reigning MVP.

But he needs to be better in the postseason.

But he needs to be better in the postseason.

He's seven and six in the playoffs with those losses to Burrow and Mahalmes. He needs to get over that. Hup, that's what has happened. He got to be better in the postseason.

He's seven and six in the playoffs with those losses to Burrow and Mahalmes. He needs to get over that. Hup, that's what has happened. He got to be better in the postseason.

Let me ask you, so, I'm sure you saw the news Josh Allen got married, yeah, last weekend, to this actress, Haley Steinfeld. H So, you know, you hear a lot of stuff. He apparently is buying a place out here in the valley. He's gonna join this golf course over.

Let me ask you, so, I'm sure you saw the news Josh Allen got married, yeah, last weekend, to this actress, Haley Steinfeld. H So, you know, you hear a lot of stuff. He apparently is buying a place out here in the valley. He's gonna join this golf course over.

I just wonder it's not a distraction. Okay, That's where I was going to you.

I just wonder it's not a distraction. Okay, That's where I was going to you.

No, no, no, no, because there.

No, no, no, no, because there.

Are some relationships where it feels like a distraction.

Are some relationships where it feels like a distraction.

She works just as hard as him.

She works just as hard as him.

She's a working actress, and he's talked about the support and love that she's helped provided him that made him a better player.

She's a working actress, and he's talked about the support and love that she's helped provided him that made him a better player.

On the field.

On the field.

When you hear that and you have a supportive partner who pushes you to be better, that's when you're at your best. I mean, he was what he got engaged last year. She was publicly the biggest part of his life last year and he had the best season of his career. So I don't see it being a distraction. I see it being support, which is great for a guy.

When you hear that and you have a supportive partner who pushes you to be better, that's when you're at your best. I mean, he was what he got engaged last year. She was publicly the biggest part of his life last year and he had the best season of his career. So I don't see it being a distraction. I see it being support, which is great for a guy.

Like Josh Allen who can handle that.

Like Josh Allen who can handle that.

Yeah, I'm all in on the Bills. I think they win the Super Bowl. Dang, anybody told Chief, anybody the Chief please?

Yeah, I'm all in on the Bills. I think they win the Super Bowl. Dang, anybody told Chief, anybody the Chief please?

I mean, you don't even have the Chiefs making the playoffs.

I mean, you don't even have the Chiefs making the playoffs.

It's you're wild, ok Alex with the news.

It's you're wild, ok Alex with the news.

Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by The Herd Line News.

Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by The Herd Line News.

All right, folks, the final segment today, So you're gonna love this so obviously that we call it best for Last. And they handed me a sheet and it said Kevin or keV Out?

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Who would you take? Kevin Durant, Kevin or keV Out. You're gonna love that. It's next door on Herd.

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Yeah, they tell me I can't talk about it, so I won't. Anyways, we got the NBA Finals coming up starting tonight. Alex, I know you're excited. But there's a bigger story of foot and that is this gentleman behind me, Kevin Durant bigger. I think it's bigger than the NBA Finals. No, he's a top fifteen player all the time. All right, wait, wait, that's a hot take. You think the Pacers thunder is more excited than KD And just say.

Yeah, they tell me I can't talk about it, so I won't. Anyways, we got the NBA Finals coming up starting tonight. Alex, I know you're excited. But there's a bigger story of foot and that is this gentleman behind me, Kevin Durant bigger. I think it's bigger than the NBA Finals. No, he's a top fifteen player all the time. All right, wait, wait, that's a hot take. You think the Pacers thunder is more excited than KD And just say.

That, Katie, where he's gonna end up is bigger than the NBA Finals is a hot take.

That, Katie, where he's gonna end up is bigger than the NBA Finals is a hot take.

I didn't.

I didn't.

I thought that was like lukewarm, but you could call it huh And of course yes, after my yesterday, Kad went on Instagram and wrote a little reply being angry.

I thought that was like lukewarm, but you could call it huh And of course yes, after my yesterday, Kad went on Instagram and wrote a little reply being angry.

This is what he does.

This is what he does.

So our guys came up with something, keV In or keV Out?

So our guys came up with something, keV In or keV Out?

Who would you who would you rather take next season on your team?

Who would you who would you rather take next season on your team?

Alex Is gonna ask me current NBA star and I'll decide Kevin or keV Out?

Alex Is gonna ask me current NBA star and I'll decide Kevin or keV Out?

All right, who would you rather have on your team? Kad or Karl Anthony Town?

All right, who would you rather have on your team? Kad or Karl Anthony Town?

Why are we starting there? I go, we'd guy Schuck, So shut damn it. Okay, So I'm a Nick's guy.

Why are we starting there? I go, we'd guy Schuck, So shut damn it. Okay, So I'm a Nick's guy.

Get done.

Get done.

I'm not saying I want this train, but I would rather have Kevin Durant than Karl Anthony Town's very very slightly after what I don't want the trade. I don't want the trade, but I would rather have kd Does that make any sense?

I'm not saying I want this train, but I would rather have Kevin Durant than Karl Anthony Town's very very slightly after what I don't want the trade. I don't want the trade, but I would rather have kd Does that make any sense?

Yes?

Yes?

After what you just saw in the last round you went off about his defense.

After what you just saw in the last round you went off about his defense.

It was bad that.

It was bad that.

Yeah, something's going on inside that team, definitely, and it sounds like a lot of fingers are being pointed in.

Yeah, something's going on inside that team, definitely, and it sounds like a lot of fingers are being pointed in.

Yeah, okay, next.

Yeah, okay, next.

Up, would you rather have Kati or Steph Curry?

Up, would you rather have Kati or Steph Curry?

Alex, this is your layout?

Alex, this is your layout?

Come on, Steph Curry. Obviously.

Come on, Steph Curry. Obviously.

So I'm playing in this men's league and they what jersey numbers do you want?

So I'm playing in this men's league and they what jersey numbers do you want?

You know?

You know?

No, there's like a real woman And I was like thirty obviously for the chef. I don't. This is no debate.

No, there's like a real woman And I was like thirty obviously for the chef. I don't. This is no debate.

Steph Curry Like, yeah, I don't. I think you the audience are a thousand percent with me.

Steph Curry Like, yeah, I don't. I think you the audience are a thousand percent with me.

Yeah right, oh yeah I am.

Yeah right, oh yeah I am.

But I'm a big Curry fan. I'm a Lebron and Curry fan. Like those are my guys.

But I'm a big Curry fan. I'm a Lebron and Curry fan. Like those are my guys.

You don't like Katie?

You don't like Katie?

No, I'm just saying those are my two favorite plays. Oh yeah. Also like, well Curry is my cousin? Is Sga? What are your favorites going.

No, I'm just saying those are my two favorite plays. Oh yeah. Also like, well Curry is my cousin? Is Sga? What are your favorites going.

No, I'm not training again, I'm not all right?

No, I'm not training again, I'm not all right?

Okay, who would you rather have on your team next season?

Okay, who would you rather have on your team next season?

Katie or Jah Moran?

Katie or Jah Moran?

Yeah, that's tough.

Yeah, that's tough.

I'm gonna go Kevin Durant. John Moran still a bit of a mess off the court. Let's see if you can have an off season? Yeah, not making negative headlines? Yeah, I would go kdither He's thirty seven. John Morant is still an electric player, sells a lot of merch.

I'm gonna go Kevin Durant. John Moran still a bit of a mess off the court. Let's see if you can have an off season? Yeah, not making negative headlines? Yeah, I would go kdither He's thirty seven. John Morant is still an electric player, sells a lot of merch.

He could dunk really cool? Does that even makes it? He's a great dunker. I'm sorry, I can rewind he's a great dunker.

He could dunk really cool? Does that even makes it? He's a great dunker. I'm sorry, I can rewind he's a great dunker.

But I don't know the Moran's game is going to age particularly well. He's like a little bit of Russell Westbrook. Can't shoot flying all around.

But I don't know the Moran's game is going to age particularly well. He's like a little bit of Russell Westbrook. Can't shoot flying all around.

By the way, did you see the report Westbrook may go to Europe? No crazy? Anyways, all right, I'll go.

By the way, did you see the report Westbrook may go to Europe? No crazy? Anyways, all right, I'll go.

Kevin duran Okay, who would you rather have on your team next season?

Kevin duran Okay, who would you rather have on your team next season?

Kd or Tyrese Haliburton.

Kd or Tyrese Haliburton.

I gotta go, what the HELLY give me Tire's Halliburton. I'm a big fan.

I gotta go, what the HELLY give me Tire's Halliburton. I'm a big fan.

I think he's encroaching top ten player in the league. Oh, I think he can show well in the finals. Alex Yeah, I mean he's eleven years younger than KD obviously, And the biggest knock for me on Durant is he doesn't make everyone around him better.

I think he's encroaching top ten player in the league. Oh, I think he can show well in the finals. Alex Yeah, I mean he's eleven years younger than KD obviously, And the biggest knock for me on Durant is he doesn't make everyone around him better.

That's why I love Luca. Yeah, That's why I love Curry, and that's why I love Haliburt.

That's why I love Luca. Yeah, That's why I love Curry, and that's why I love Haliburt.

Well, we heard we played the Lebron sound earlier right where he was talking about guys want to fight for him because he has that energy on the court and.

Well, we heard we played the Lebron sound earlier right where he was talking about guys want to fight for him because he has that energy on the court and.

That that's that's such a key part to a leader.

That that's that's such a key part to a leader.

Not only can you lead by example, but do you motivate everyone around you to elevate their game?

Not only can you lead by example, but do you motivate everyone around you to elevate their game?

Year one hundred?

Year one hundred?

Okay, who would you rather have in your team next season? KD or Joel and b KD? That's no, I don't even know what a beads future in the NBA is.

Okay, who would you rather have in your team next season? KD or Joel and b KD? That's no, I don't even know what a beads future in the NBA is.

Honestly, the guy goes to the Olympics, can barely play, has like a good quarter, maybe a good half, and now he's like a nodal nonfactory needs the surgery, like Kevin Durant in a heartbeat.

Honestly, the guy goes to the Olympics, can barely play, has like a good quarter, maybe a good half, and now he's like a nodal nonfactory needs the surgery, like Kevin Durant in a heartbeat.

Sorry, okay, who.

Sorry, okay, who.

Would you rather have in your team next season? KD or Jimmy Butler?

Would you rather have in your team next season? KD or Jimmy Butler?

A little tougher. I'm gonna go Jimmy Buckets. It's interesting because the words could have gone, so.

A little tougher. I'm gonna go Jimmy Buckets. It's interesting because the words could have gone, so.

I'm saying they could have been in a similar situation.

I'm saying they could have been in a similar situation.

I think Jimmy Butler was the right call. Remember they win in the first round against Houston, if they win Game one against Minnesota, if Curry doesn't get hurt, they're probably fine. Jimmy Butler is a two as a one. He took the Heat to the finals twice. Like, yeah, I go Jimmy Butler over KD next season.

I think Jimmy Butler was the right call. Remember they win in the first round against Houston, if they win Game one against Minnesota, if Curry doesn't get hurt, they're probably fine. Jimmy Butler is a two as a one. He took the Heat to the finals twice. Like, yeah, I go Jimmy Butler over KD next season.

Okay, Kati or Kawhi Leonard.

Okay, Kati or Kawhi Leonard.

This was the toughest, the toughest one for sure.

This was the toughest, the toughest one for sure.

Okay, because Kawhi when he was healthy, looked really good.

Okay, because Kawhi when he was healthy, looked really good.

Remember they pushed Deenverer to seven.

Remember they pushed Deenverer to seven.

Did the healthy Ben is Achilles?

Did the healthy Ben is Achilles?

Heel, Yeah, Kimmy Kevin doing.

Heel, Yeah, Kimmy Kevin doing.

That.

That.

I know that's a tough one.

I know that's a tough one.

I wonder if Kawhi has like a big market, because like, you don't know what you're trading.

I wonder if Kawhi has like a big market, because like, you don't know what you're trading.

Like with KD, you.

Like with KD, you.

Know, sure, how many games are you going to get up?

Know, sure, how many games are you going to get up?

And it's usually end of the season playoffs, which is the worst time to be heard.

And it's usually end of the season playoffs, which is the worst time to be heard.

At least KD plays they may get what by Anthony Edwards and Jason Tatum.

At least KD plays they may get what by Anthony Edwards and Jason Tatum.

But at least he's played, so kd over Kawhi.

But at least he's played, so kd over Kawhi.

All right, let's wrap it up with the big one. Who would you rather have on your team next season? Kati or Lebron?

All right, let's wrap it up with the big one. Who would you rather have on your team next season? Kati or Lebron?

Lebron? I five give me Lebron James.

Lebron? I five give me Lebron James.

You know, forty years old, the stuff he's doing in this league, Alex.

You know, forty years old, the stuff he's doing in this league, Alex.

I am na a Lebron fan.

I am na a Lebron fan.

You don't want to like.

You don't want to like.

I don't understand the hate I do that.

I don't understand the hate I do that.

I'm on record, He's the greatest player in NBA history.

I'm on record, He's the greatest player in NBA history.

I've been saying that since he brought the title to the Lakers in the bubble. Anywhere he goes, he's the system and everyone works around him when it.

I've been saying that since he brought the title to the Lakers in the bubble. Anywhere he goes, he's the system and everyone works around him when it.

Doesn't matter a coach franchises. Yeah, guys, that's a big deal. That is a huge deal. Now I'm a huge Lebron fan. And when he brings to the franchise too.

Doesn't matter a coach franchises. Yeah, guys, that's a big deal. That is a huge deal. Now I'm a huge Lebron fan. And when he brings to the franchise too.

So we got a full screen if you were watching or missed a couple, keV in or keV out, I did take Katie over kat Kadi, over Jah Morant, over.

So we got a full screen if you were watching or missed a couple, keV in or keV out, I did take Katie over kat Kadi, over Jah Morant, over.

Embid and over Kawhi.

Embid and over Kawhi.

Yeah two of those are injury related, but actually and one's off the court, and Kat is.

Yeah two of those are injury related, but actually and one's off the court, and Kat is.

It's a bit of a space cadet.

It's a bit of a space cadet.

But yeah, give me Lebron Butler Hallie and hurry over Kevin Durant.

But yeah, give me Lebron Butler Hallie and hurry over Kevin Durant.

Yeah those are good. Did you off the top of the show? Did I hear this right? Did you say you're taking the Pacers.

Yeah those are good. Did you off the top of the show? Did I hear this right? Did you say you're taking the Pacers.

I'm gonna a little money on.

I'm gonna a little money on.

The Pacers to win the series.

The Pacers to win the series.

I think I'm gonna do an exact Okay, Pacers to win the series for two.

I think I'm gonna do an exact Okay, Pacers to win the series for two.

There's no point in betting on the Okac Thunder, like I'm not.

There's no point in betting on the Okac Thunder, like I'm not.

So is this because you think they can actually do it or because it's a better bet.

So is this because you think they can actually do it or because it's a better bet.

A combination of the two.

A combination of the two.

So I think I saw the number was like plus ten forty if the Pacers win the series exactly for two, Yeah, let's do.

So I think I saw the number was like plus ten forty if the Pacers win the series exactly for two, Yeah, let's do.

They're not sweeping the Thunder for one.

They're not sweeping the Thunder for one.

That ain't happening, and they're not winning Game seven in Oklahoma definitely not.

That ain't happening, and they're not winning Game seven in Oklahoma definitely not.

So their best bet would be four to two at home.

So their best bet would be four to two at home.

Okay, So this is your betting pick. Yeah, now this is a piece of money bet. Yeah, so that's your money bet. What's your brain? Your brain saying.

Okay, So this is your betting pick. Yeah, now this is a piece of money bet. Yeah, so that's your money bet. What's your brain? Your brain saying.

Okay, see okay, see four zero?

Okay, see okay, see four zero?

Oh you're saying sweet, you think it's gonna be a sweet I think that's.

Oh you're saying sweet, you think it's gonna be a sweet I think that's.

In play for sure.

In play for sure.

Okay, if you're if you want to have fun with it, put some money on it.

Okay, if you're if you want to have fun with it, put some money on it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Four two.

Four two.

I mean, like, there's just no I'm not gonna bet one thousand dollars on Oklahoma City to win like seven dollars, Like, that's just dumb.

I mean, like, there's just no I'm not gonna bet one thousand dollars on Oklahoma City to win like seven dollars, Like, that's just dumb.

I don't think that.

I don't think that.

You think they're gonna they're gonna sweep. I do think they're So you're taking game one tonight, Well, there's some bad game one betting trends on underdogs. Okay, so I'm not touching the Pacers tonight. This is kind of a wait and see.

You think they're gonna they're gonna sweep. I do think they're So you're taking game one tonight, Well, there's some bad game one betting trends on underdogs. Okay, so I'm not touching the Pacers tonight. This is kind of a wait and see.

They also had issues getting in. The weather was kind of tall. That's that can affect that. I mean, I don't think it's going to affect them.

They also had issues getting in. The weather was kind of tall. That's that can affect that. I mean, I don't think it's going to affect them.

Let's go score. I'll go one, eighteen to ninety seven. That's under a wan. Let me write that down and keeps it back.

Let's go score. I'll go one, eighteen to ninety seven. That's under a wan. Let me write that down and keeps it back.

Eighteen to ninety seven.

Eighteen to ninety seven.

I'm gonna say it's a five score game.

I'm gonna say it's a five score game.