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What Up? Welcome in. This is the Herd. Wherever you may be and however you may be making this part of your day. Thanks so much.

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I'm Doug Gottlieb in for Colin Cowherd on a Friday.

I'm Doug Gottlieb in for Colin Cowherd on a Friday.

I think I think the nineties for US. I do.

I think I think the nineties for US. I do.

I do.

I do.

I think the nineties for US.

I think the nineties for US.

And it's weird because when we're in the nineties, there's a lot of us are like, weren't the eighties?

And it's weird because when we're in the nineties, there's a lot of us are like, weren't the eighties?

But you know, and.

But you know, and.

I'm watching last night as Alabama beats BYU, and I do understand.

I'm watching last night as Alabama beats BYU, and I do understand.

By the way that.

By the way that.

Statistically, if you look, you could not you could find very little fault with how BYU played. Right, If you're just waking up or you're watching Major League Baseball, you went to a baseball game last night, you didn't watch the NCAA tournament. Let me tell you what BYU did. Okay, So BYU h forty six percent from the field, eighty from eighty from the line, and they got the line twenty times. They only turned it over eleven times. Now, they were six of thirty from three point range, which is twenty percent.

Statistically, if you look, you could not you could find very little fault with how BYU played. Right, If you're just waking up or you're watching Major League Baseball, you went to a baseball game last night, you didn't watch the NCAA tournament. Let me tell you what BYU did. Okay, So BYU h forty six percent from the field, eighty from eighty from the line, and they got the line twenty times. They only turned it over eleven times. Now, they were six of thirty from three point range, which is twenty percent.

That's that's not good enough.

That's that's not good enough.

They had thirteen offensive rebounds, which is outstanding. So they actually took one less free throw, but six more shots, six more shots. Alabama took sixty six shots, BYU took seventy two. Alabama was thirty five of sixty six. That's a better percentage on fewer shots. They made thirty five field goals. BYU made thirty three field goals. Bama was eighteen of twenty one from the line. BYU is sixteen of twenty from the line. So it just those as raw stats, you would go, oh, okay, you made eighteen free throws, that's two more points. You made thirty five field goals, that's four more points. It was a close game. Alabama beat BYU one thirteen to eighty eight. Let me rebeat they beat Alabama. Alabama BATBYU despite having more turnovers and taking only one more free throw, making two more free throws, making two more field goals. They beat them one thirteen to eighty eight, and it wasn't that close. And obviously if you had like three point shots. I'm natoates who you know a little more than a decade ago as a high school coach at Romulus High School in Detroit, Michigan. Then went on to be an assistant with Bobby Hurley at Buffalo after joining Danny Hurley at Rhode Island, and then he took over at Buffalo. Now he's at Alabama. And they went to the Final four last year and they looked like a final fourteen. They look like no one's beating them last night. And Mark Sears was a fifth year senior. Mark Sears who started his careers from Alabama from Muscle Show. He went to Ohio U his first two years. And again this is why the mid majors don't feel like they compete, because Mark Seers probably wasn't good enough to play to Alabama early on, goes some plays and has it remains confident. I that's a big thing. Right you go to the right level, you can play right away. You re maintain your confidence. He's ten of sixteen from three point range. Amazing, amazing, and they end up winning one thirteen eighty eight. But I just I find it really interesting that even though I love growing up in the nineties, like I do, like I have nothing bad to say about my childhood, but I can tell you that it's way more efficient to have a cell phone or have a smartphone where you don't have to have a computer or even those old Nokia phones, or remember when you had a payphone. Like you want to talk about inefficient, we were. I took my son last week after doing the Herd.

They had thirteen offensive rebounds, which is outstanding. So they actually took one less free throw, but six more shots, six more shots. Alabama took sixty six shots, BYU took seventy two. Alabama was thirty five of sixty six. That's a better percentage on fewer shots. They made thirty five field goals. BYU made thirty three field goals. Bama was eighteen of twenty one from the line. BYU is sixteen of twenty from the line. So it just those as raw stats, you would go, oh, okay, you made eighteen free throws, that's two more points. You made thirty five field goals, that's four more points. It was a close game. Alabama beat BYU one thirteen to eighty eight. Let me rebeat they beat Alabama. Alabama BATBYU despite having more turnovers and taking only one more free throw, making two more free throws, making two more field goals. They beat them one thirteen to eighty eight, and it wasn't that close. And obviously if you had like three point shots. I'm natoates who you know a little more than a decade ago as a high school coach at Romulus High School in Detroit, Michigan. Then went on to be an assistant with Bobby Hurley at Buffalo after joining Danny Hurley at Rhode Island, and then he took over at Buffalo. Now he's at Alabama. And they went to the Final four last year and they looked like a final fourteen. They look like no one's beating them last night. And Mark Sears was a fifth year senior. Mark Sears who started his careers from Alabama from Muscle Show. He went to Ohio U his first two years. And again this is why the mid majors don't feel like they compete, because Mark Seers probably wasn't good enough to play to Alabama early on, goes some plays and has it remains confident. I that's a big thing. Right you go to the right level, you can play right away. You re maintain your confidence. He's ten of sixteen from three point range. Amazing, amazing, and they end up winning one thirteen eighty eight. But I just I find it really interesting that even though I love growing up in the nineties, like I do, like I have nothing bad to say about my childhood, but I can tell you that it's way more efficient to have a cell phone or have a smartphone where you don't have to have a computer or even those old Nokia phones, or remember when you had a payphone. Like you want to talk about inefficient, we were. I took my son last week after doing the Herd.

You guys know this.

You guys know this.

I took my son to six Flags Matched Mountains is his birthday. It's kind of our yearly tradition. And we're getting ready to go on Stream. Stream, by the way, underrated of the roller coasters. It's kind of right in the front of the park. It's blue and red, and it's not as highly touted as some others, but Stream is an outstanding roller coaster. Outstanding anyway, we're in line and it says, you know that you have to place your beepers and cell phones and jewelry into some little box so that you don't lose it on Stream, And my son turns to me and he says, what is a beeper?

I took my son to six Flags Matched Mountains is his birthday. It's kind of our yearly tradition. And we're getting ready to go on Stream. Stream, by the way, underrated of the roller coasters. It's kind of right in the front of the park. It's blue and red, and it's not as highly touted as some others, but Stream is an outstanding roller coaster. Outstanding anyway, we're in line and it says, you know that you have to place your beepers and cell phones and jewelry into some little box so that you don't lose it on Stream, And my son turns to me and he says, what is a beeper?

I was like, well, or maybe I said, Paiger, well, what's a pager? I was like, what's a beeper? What's a beeper?

I was like, well, or maybe I said, Paiger, well, what's a pager? I was like, what's a beeper? What's a beeper?

And I was like, oh my god, you have no idea, so what a beeper is? And there's lots of people there now they're like.

And I was like, oh my god, you have no idea, so what a beeper is? And there's lots of people there now they're like.

How do you not know it?

How do you not know it?

Beer like, well, he's sixteen years old, Like I understand it blew off people's in the Middle East, because if you know about that IDF story, he's really defense for story. What they did with hesbe Llah a couple months ago, it's pretty amazing. But then even then you had to explain what a beeper was or a pager is, so in order for someone to get a hold of you. And it started really with doctors, yes, and drug dealers. If you watch the wire, you could page somebody and then you would page them with a number to call them back. Right then you'd have to go find a payphone and either find coins for that payphone or call collect where they'd either have to say you have a call from Doug Gottlieb or have a call from hey seven one four seven six eight two oh two, oh, call me back right at which time they would then have to call it listen to pick it up, listen and then call you back unless they got it on their their answer machine. Now we just call you or in the most efficient way to get somebody to call them back at the most appropriate time is you text somebody call me when you have a chance.

Beer like, well, he's sixteen years old, Like I understand it blew off people's in the Middle East, because if you know about that IDF story, he's really defense for story. What they did with hesbe Llah a couple months ago, it's pretty amazing. But then even then you had to explain what a beeper was or a pager is, so in order for someone to get a hold of you. And it started really with doctors, yes, and drug dealers. If you watch the wire, you could page somebody and then you would page them with a number to call them back. Right then you'd have to go find a payphone and either find coins for that payphone or call collect where they'd either have to say you have a call from Doug Gottlieb or have a call from hey seven one four seven six eight two oh two, oh, call me back right at which time they would then have to call it listen to pick it up, listen and then call you back unless they got it on their their answer machine. Now we just call you or in the most efficient way to get somebody to call them back at the most appropriate time is you text somebody call me when you have a chance.

Right.

Right.

The point is that I love my childhood, but we've become way more efficient with our time. Isn't that the thing that that COVID showed us. Yes, people are going back to work and it is important to have the human interaction. But a lot of these jobs we can do from home. And if you do it from home, are there some things that you like? Sure, but you know what you don't have. You don't have traffic. You just sit down at your desk and you open up your laptop and you can still face to face. You just press zoom, which we didn't even know existed before COVID or whatever other you know, teams whatever are the device. The point is that not all efficiency is perfect, and you do need some sort of kind of human warmth and human touch and human interaction fact, no question, And it's not an all or nothing thing. You don't just shoot layups, free throws or threes, but mostly why because you're trying to be more efficient. You're trying to be more efficient. In no world, in no other place are we trying to become less efficient? Is there can anyone think of a job like, hey, let's be less efficient. Then, I mean, you're gonna go fly on a plane. What do you do?

The point is that I love my childhood, but we've become way more efficient with our time. Isn't that the thing that that COVID showed us. Yes, people are going back to work and it is important to have the human interaction. But a lot of these jobs we can do from home. And if you do it from home, are there some things that you like? Sure, but you know what you don't have. You don't have traffic. You just sit down at your desk and you open up your laptop and you can still face to face. You just press zoom, which we didn't even know existed before COVID or whatever other you know, teams whatever are the device. The point is that not all efficiency is perfect, and you do need some sort of kind of human warmth and human touch and human interaction fact, no question, And it's not an all or nothing thing. You don't just shoot layups, free throws or threes, but mostly why because you're trying to be more efficient. You're trying to be more efficient. In no world, in no other place are we trying to become less efficient? Is there can anyone think of a job like, hey, let's be less efficient. Then, I mean, you're gonna go fly on a plane. What do you do?

You have the app?

You have the app?

You know, you download the app, you type of thing, you get a boarding pass. Otherwise you got to go to check in, and then if you get your bag, then you gotta go over to the bag drop thing. Then they put the sticker on it, then they go get the bag. Then you get the printed off ticket and then you go through. Or you can just print out your boarding pass. By the way, clear is awesome. I should get some nil for clear. Go through clear, never check a bag, right to your app, right to the plane, get on in, go.

You know, you download the app, you type of thing, you get a boarding pass. Otherwise you got to go to check in, and then if you get your bag, then you gotta go over to the bag drop thing. Then they put the sticker on it, then they go get the bag. Then you get the printed off ticket and then you go through. Or you can just print out your boarding pass. By the way, clear is awesome. I should get some nil for clear. Go through clear, never check a bag, right to your app, right to the plane, get on in, go.

You know.

You know.

I mean, look, I don't know if it's more or less expensive to get you know, to use an app based ride. But the only difference between it and a taxi is you press the button. You don't have to tell them the address, you don't have to tell anything. You just walk, get in your car and go and everyone I know time, don't you time it out? When I land at home, I want I got my Uber waiting there, just like or just like I'm some big baller with a car service. And then as I'm on my way home, I usually use like a door dash or Uber eats whatever, so I have food waiting for me as soon as I get home. Why it's all about efficiency. I don't want to cook and clean. It's not just the work. It's like it's such an inefficient thing. Time is money. Let's save time. Let's use more time to check in on people we care, or to sleep, or to take care of yourself. I don't understand why people fight the efficiency of sport, and I guess it's because we yearn for the older stuff it makes It makes us our time feel more relevant. Even how you buy records, there was a place called the Warehouse. Shout out to the Warehouse on Chapman Avenue. Right, album would come out and a lot of times you would go and get a single and then if you remember again, this is child of the nineties, but I think it started in the late eighties. Right, you had the high speed dubbing, high speed dubbing, So you take a cassette tape and then if you wanted to stop after each song, you had to start and stop, or you just got to record it, make your own mixtape. You fast forward until the spot, and then you'd high speed dub so it would be faster. Why was it high speed dub because it was more efficient. And then we went from cassette tapes to CDs, right, And now that once we got to the real reason that we had. You know that Apple music became so big is you didn't have to buy a whole album. You didn't have to buy a whole album, right, just download the song you want, preview the other songs you don't like it, don't download it, pay one fee. It's all inefficiency. And yet Alabama takes fifty threes.

I mean, look, I don't know if it's more or less expensive to get you know, to use an app based ride. But the only difference between it and a taxi is you press the button. You don't have to tell them the address, you don't have to tell anything. You just walk, get in your car and go and everyone I know time, don't you time it out? When I land at home, I want I got my Uber waiting there, just like or just like I'm some big baller with a car service. And then as I'm on my way home, I usually use like a door dash or Uber eats whatever, so I have food waiting for me as soon as I get home. Why it's all about efficiency. I don't want to cook and clean. It's not just the work. It's like it's such an inefficient thing. Time is money. Let's save time. Let's use more time to check in on people we care, or to sleep, or to take care of yourself. I don't understand why people fight the efficiency of sport, and I guess it's because we yearn for the older stuff it makes It makes us our time feel more relevant. Even how you buy records, there was a place called the Warehouse. Shout out to the Warehouse on Chapman Avenue. Right, album would come out and a lot of times you would go and get a single and then if you remember again, this is child of the nineties, but I think it started in the late eighties. Right, you had the high speed dubbing, high speed dubbing, So you take a cassette tape and then if you wanted to stop after each song, you had to start and stop, or you just got to record it, make your own mixtape. You fast forward until the spot, and then you'd high speed dub so it would be faster. Why was it high speed dub because it was more efficient. And then we went from cassette tapes to CDs, right, And now that once we got to the real reason that we had. You know that Apple music became so big is you didn't have to buy a whole album. You didn't have to buy a whole album, right, just download the song you want, preview the other songs you don't like it, don't download it, pay one fee. It's all inefficiency. And yet Alabama takes fifty threes.

Like, oh, this is just what basketball has become. And do you mean more efficient? You mean smarter, not harder?

Like, oh, this is just what basketball has become. And do you mean more efficient? You mean smarter, not harder?

You do know it's actually easier to rebound when you have five guys outside the three point line, don't you. That's what people don't really understand. If you post up, it's a less efficient shot, right, And when you shoot the ball in the post, if it's not a surefire layup. You're shooting the ball over an extended hand, and then in order to get the rebound, you have to go through that same guy's body. Whereas if you're spread outside five guys outside three point line and the shot goes up, you can b lining for the basket and get offensive rebounds, because it's really hard when your man is in the lane to box you out when you got a five step running start. Apparently baseball, especially basketball, and football, are the only three things in life that people want to be less efficient. No, no, no mid range shots. Where are the post ups? Go back and watch those games. The players were great and they played to a role that was established. I have no doubt in my mind, okay, that Larry Bird would be right in any conver station the greatest three point shooter of all time, just like Steph Curry had it been encouraged back in the day. How do I know that because when he had to, when they had the three point shooting contest, he won and it wasn't that hard. And he is a better ten times the rebounder of Dirt Novitsky and ever bit the score inside of Nikola Jokic. He was amazing, But that's not how the sport was played, but we found ways to be to work smarter, not harder, in all aspects of life. And yet people in basketball, people in baseball, people in football want it done the old way.

You do know it's actually easier to rebound when you have five guys outside the three point line, don't you. That's what people don't really understand. If you post up, it's a less efficient shot, right, And when you shoot the ball in the post, if it's not a surefire layup. You're shooting the ball over an extended hand, and then in order to get the rebound, you have to go through that same guy's body. Whereas if you're spread outside five guys outside three point line and the shot goes up, you can b lining for the basket and get offensive rebounds, because it's really hard when your man is in the lane to box you out when you got a five step running start. Apparently baseball, especially basketball, and football, are the only three things in life that people want to be less efficient. No, no, no mid range shots. Where are the post ups? Go back and watch those games. The players were great and they played to a role that was established. I have no doubt in my mind, okay, that Larry Bird would be right in any conver station the greatest three point shooter of all time, just like Steph Curry had it been encouraged back in the day. How do I know that because when he had to, when they had the three point shooting contest, he won and it wasn't that hard. And he is a better ten times the rebounder of Dirt Novitsky and ever bit the score inside of Nikola Jokic. He was amazing, But that's not how the sport was played, but we found ways to be to work smarter, not harder, in all aspects of life. And yet people in basketball, people in baseball, people in football want it done the old way.

That's dumb. That's dumb.

That's dumb. That's dumb.

It's honestly not. Unlike I heard Bill Mars say this, right, we want manufacturing jobs back in the United States.

It's honestly not. Unlike I heard Bill Mars say this, right, we want manufacturing jobs back in the United States.

Who's going to do that?

Who's going to do that?

Right, Robots will do it, not human beings, because human beings go to school now to be more efficient, to develop apps, to develop things that are that are are digitally based, work smarter, not harder. Yet for some reason, we have this loving, enjoyable view of our childhood like it was better. Like do you know why we established these rules in the NBA where you can't hand check because it was awful to watch, it was terrible, But it's like we want to bite off our hand to spie our face and tell people what's wrong. When last night I can't think of one moment where I thought, Alabama, Hey, why don't you guys stop shooting the reason start shoot shooting mid rain shots? Doug Gottliebin for calling this is the herd. Wait, do you hear what Mick Cronin said yesterday in regards to recap it for you and react to it next in the Hurd.

Right, Robots will do it, not human beings, because human beings go to school now to be more efficient, to develop apps, to develop things that are that are are digitally based, work smarter, not harder. Yet for some reason, we have this loving, enjoyable view of our childhood like it was better. Like do you know why we established these rules in the NBA where you can't hand check because it was awful to watch, it was terrible, But it's like we want to bite off our hand to spie our face and tell people what's wrong. When last night I can't think of one moment where I thought, Alabama, Hey, why don't you guys stop shooting the reason start shoot shooting mid rain shots? Doug Gottliebin for calling this is the herd. Wait, do you hear what Mick Cronin said yesterday in regards to recap it for you and react to it next in the Hurd.

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You go.

You go.

From Murray State, and you know then as he's kind of climbed in his career to Cincinnati. I covered his teams in Cincinnati in the NCAA Tournament, now to UCLA. I thought this was interesting that he said he was talking about the NCAA Tournament and Cinderella's. This was mccronan on it. Oh, I'm sorry, this this is cronin on Cooper Flag.

From Murray State, and you know then as he's kind of climbed in his career to Cincinnati. I covered his teams in Cincinnati in the NCAA Tournament, now to UCLA. I thought this was interesting that he said he was talking about the NCAA Tournament and Cinderella's. This was mccronan on it. Oh, I'm sorry, this this is cronin on Cooper Flag.

What if Cooper Flag could play three years at college and he was coming into the NBA, then then people would be saying, as this guy, Larry Bird, you know how good you have to be? Like like, look, none of those guys were ready. I mean, whomen Yama wasn't ready to make a team. No you can't go make a team win when you're eighteen, nineteen years old.

What if Cooper Flag could play three years at college and he was coming into the NBA, then then people would be saying, as this guy, Larry Bird, you know how good you have to be? Like like, look, none of those guys were ready. I mean, whomen Yama wasn't ready to make a team. No you can't go make a team win when you're eighteen, nineteen years old.

You just can't do it.

You just can't do it.

Can't get into the hotel bar.

Can't get into the hotel bar.

Give him a hon some college games, then let him go to the NBA. But those days, you know, then it's Magic Johnson, it's you know, it's Larry Bird, it's whatever. I mean, he's that good guys.

Give him a hon some college games, then let him go to the NBA. But those days, you know, then it's Magic Johnson, it's you know, it's Larry Bird, it's whatever. I mean, he's that good guys.

Yeah, no, he's he's incredible. I think in some ways NIL has saved college basketball. And in some ways the people say it's the transfer portal. It's not the transfer portal. Okay, that's it's a very easy one. And again maybe I'm maybe I'm one of those guys that's like correcting you and it doesn't need to be corrected. The transfer portal is nothing more than you put yourself in the old school days. You just have to go in to see your coach. You could do it by going to seeing compliance, but you're supposed to go to see your coach, say hey, coach, I want to transfer. The coach had to release you if you didn't want to be if they didn't want to release you, which is weird because you don't want to be there, But if they didn't release you, Whi's very very rare. You could still ask compliance or athletic director appeal to the NCAA, but usually go in you asked to be released, and you can sign anywhere anywhere except for in conference. That used to be the rule. And if you're in conference, you had to sit two years, whereas if you sat out of conference, you had to sit a year. The only exceptions to that were if you graduated on if you graduated and you still had eligibility and the school you went to didn't have a certain major, you could find that major elsewhere. In other words, grad students got to transfer. And I actually have no problem with that rule. If you've been somewhere for long enough to get a college degree, like that's the whole point of this thing, and you want to go to grad school, fine, you should be.

Yeah, no, he's he's incredible. I think in some ways NIL has saved college basketball. And in some ways the people say it's the transfer portal. It's not the transfer portal. Okay, that's it's a very easy one. And again maybe I'm maybe I'm one of those guys that's like correcting you and it doesn't need to be corrected. The transfer portal is nothing more than you put yourself in the old school days. You just have to go in to see your coach. You could do it by going to seeing compliance, but you're supposed to go to see your coach, say hey, coach, I want to transfer. The coach had to release you if you didn't want to be if they didn't want to release you, which is weird because you don't want to be there, But if they didn't release you, Whi's very very rare. You could still ask compliance or athletic director appeal to the NCAA, but usually go in you asked to be released, and you can sign anywhere anywhere except for in conference. That used to be the rule. And if you're in conference, you had to sit two years, whereas if you sat out of conference, you had to sit a year. The only exceptions to that were if you graduated on if you graduated and you still had eligibility and the school you went to didn't have a certain major, you could find that major elsewhere. In other words, grad students got to transfer. And I actually have no problem with that rule. If you've been somewhere for long enough to get a college degree, like that's the whole point of this thing, and you want to go to grad school, fine, you should be.

Able to leave.

Able to leave.

But what's hurt College sports is not the transfer port. So it's that you don't have to sit out a year. The free and clear, I can go different school, different year. Whatever what holds me back from transferring? And let me destroy a little bit of a narrative that is such a false narrative. Since j Billis has pretty much ruined college sports, with his ideas of paying athletes no repercussions for transfers. Let's also tell you that he's he's ruined a narrative and made it something that is absolutely positively it's he's done what social media does to so many problems. And I actually like and respect Jay, but he's been on this, he's been on this trail, marching down this trail for twenty years.

But what's hurt College sports is not the transfer port. So it's that you don't have to sit out a year. The free and clear, I can go different school, different year. Whatever what holds me back from transferring? And let me destroy a little bit of a narrative that is such a false narrative. Since j Billis has pretty much ruined college sports, with his ideas of paying athletes no repercussions for transfers. Let's also tell you that he's he's ruined a narrative and made it something that is absolutely positively it's he's done what social media does to so many problems. And I actually like and respect Jay, but he's been on this, he's been on this trail, marching down this trail for twenty years.

And congrats, Jay, you've done it. Hey.

And congrats, Jay, you've done it. Hey.

I don't think it was with the intent of making Duke into a superpower, but that's what's ended up happening. This is ended up happening. And if his thing is, hey, you know what I've done is I've created all this wealth for players. Yeah, but the reality is most of these guys, even there's I don't know how many, maybe seventy five to no probably more, probably three hundred high earners six well into six figure earners in college basketball, but some reason they've gotten these agents are getting twenty percent, and it's created an artificial market where when they get done with college.

I don't think it was with the intent of making Duke into a superpower, but that's what's ended up happening. This is ended up happening. And if his thing is, hey, you know what I've done is I've created all this wealth for players. Yeah, but the reality is most of these guys, even there's I don't know how many, maybe seventy five to no probably more, probably three hundred high earners six well into six figure earners in college basketball, but some reason they've gotten these agents are getting twenty percent, and it's created an artificial market where when they get done with college.

Then what.

Then what.

If you get done with college and you've played five years and your last couple of years you make a whole bunch of money and then you try and go and play overseas where they don't really value young players and you have to earn it. You're going to go from say you made five hundred thousand dollars and then you go and play Pro B in Italy or you go and play second division in Spain. You might back one hundred grand. You go from playing college basketball and making five hundred thousand dollars and now is sudden like, hey, your first job is a true professional You'll make a buck twenty five, which is a damn good job, especially maybe a two in Italy, and your salary can go up. You just like, why would I make less money? Because that's how real world works. But but one of the narratives is college coaches are constantly leaving. They're in the transfer port the transfer portal four coaches never never never closes, right, Okay, cool? In the acc in the accay of Florida State's coach retired, nc Stage coach was fired, Miami's coach retired. Right, none of those coaches left their current job. That I'm just I just want to make sure here I got it right with. Yeah, nobody left their current job. Okay, So that's one of the five biggest conferences in the Big twelve. In the Big Twelve, none of those coaches. Utah, they fired their coach before the season was over. A West Virginia's coach did leave and went to Indiana, a job that was opened because the Indiana head coach was retiring. So I've just gone through two conferences, and basically, and again, the Big Twelve, it was Big twelve was sixteen teams something like that.

If you get done with college and you've played five years and your last couple of years you make a whole bunch of money and then you try and go and play overseas where they don't really value young players and you have to earn it. You're going to go from say you made five hundred thousand dollars and then you go and play Pro B in Italy or you go and play second division in Spain. You might back one hundred grand. You go from playing college basketball and making five hundred thousand dollars and now is sudden like, hey, your first job is a true professional You'll make a buck twenty five, which is a damn good job, especially maybe a two in Italy, and your salary can go up. You just like, why would I make less money? Because that's how real world works. But but one of the narratives is college coaches are constantly leaving. They're in the transfer port the transfer portal four coaches never never never closes, right, Okay, cool? In the acc in the accay of Florida State's coach retired, nc Stage coach was fired, Miami's coach retired. Right, none of those coaches left their current job. That I'm just I just want to make sure here I got it right with. Yeah, nobody left their current job. Okay, So that's one of the five biggest conferences in the Big twelve. In the Big Twelve, none of those coaches. Utah, they fired their coach before the season was over. A West Virginia's coach did leave and went to Indiana, a job that was opened because the Indiana head coach was retiring. So I've just gone through two conferences, and basically, and again, the Big Twelve, it was Big twelve was sixteen teams something like that.

If there are four.

If there are four.

Major conferences or five major conferences, you're talking about five or so of the of the coaches moving places from one to another during an offseason. And most times, most times, most times it's because somebody was fired. And most times it's like Richard Patino who joined US earlier.

Major conferences or five major conferences, you're talking about five or so of the of the coaches moving places from one to another during an offseason. And most times, most times, most times it's because somebody was fired. And most times it's like Richard Patino who joined US earlier.

He was in Mexico for four years.

He was in Mexico for four years.

Entire college basketball rosters are wiped out. In my League's got named Andy Toole, and he's a friend of mine. Okay, they finished with the third worst record in the league two years ago. Last year they built up and they won the Horizon League and they won the Horizon League tournament. And his top four players have already gotten to the portal. Congratulations, I'm building up a juggernaut. They're all gone. Now you gotta go do it again. It's such a bull crap narrative that coaches just leave. By the way, when a coach leaves, there's a buyout the seat I occupy. The reason it became open late in the middle of May, when the portal had been open for two months and had already been purged, was because Sundance Wicks is from Wyoming and Jeff Linder, who was gonna be under pressure and probably his last year, he's gone, and he's an amazing offensive coach at Texas Tech, part of that team that just won last night, and my school, even though he's like, well, heck, he was only there for a year and they're all better.

Entire college basketball rosters are wiped out. In my League's got named Andy Toole, and he's a friend of mine. Okay, they finished with the third worst record in the league two years ago. Last year they built up and they won the Horizon League and they won the Horizon League tournament. And his top four players have already gotten to the portal. Congratulations, I'm building up a juggernaut. They're all gone. Now you gotta go do it again. It's such a bull crap narrative that coaches just leave. By the way, when a coach leaves, there's a buyout the seat I occupy. The reason it became open late in the middle of May, when the portal had been open for two months and had already been purged, was because Sundance Wicks is from Wyoming and Jeff Linder, who was gonna be under pressure and probably his last year, he's gone, and he's an amazing offensive coach at Texas Tech, part of that team that just won last night, and my school, even though he's like, well, heck, he was only there for a year and they're all better.

No, they're not.

No, they're not.

It was a seven hundred thousand dollars buyout. Help balance our books. If you want to start having seven hundred thousand dollars buyouts for coaches for players, by all means you can move. Schools at our level would be more than happy to have huge buyouts.

It was a seven hundred thousand dollars buyout. Help balance our books. If you want to start having seven hundred thousand dollars buyouts for coaches for players, by all means you can move. Schools at our level would be more than happy to have huge buyouts.

Why not you want to move?

Why not you want to move?

Should be a buyout, By the way, that's what happens in the real world. Okay, If Greg Twoey is our esteam producer, Greg, you know this you've been in the radio business. If I've left places, if you leave, you have a non compete. Sure, right, when I left one place and went to another, I had a non compete when I when I left, that was my first one. I left ESPN to go to CBS Sports Radio, I went non compete. And when I left CBS to come to Fox, CBS because I left was still some.

Should be a buyout, By the way, that's what happens in the real world. Okay, If Greg Twoey is our esteam producer, Greg, you know this you've been in the radio business. If I've left places, if you leave, you have a non compete. Sure, right, when I left one place and went to another, I had a non compete when I when I left, that was my first one. I left ESPN to go to CBS Sports Radio, I went non compete. And when I left CBS to come to Fox, CBS because I left was still some.

Time left on my contract.

Time left on my contract.

Fox wanted me to come in and and do things during the NCAA term or do Collins showed like now during the nca term, which I've done every year since, and CBS is like, no, no, you can leave.

Fox wanted me to come in and and do things during the NCAA term or do Collins showed like now during the nca term, which I've done every year since, and CBS is like, no, no, you can leave.

We're not gonna stop you. We're not gonna force you.

We're not gonna stop you. We're not gonna force you.

By the way, media contracts, I don't know how many people would know this. Media contracts totally one side. Any place I've left, if they if they wanted to, they don't execute it. But if they wanted to, they can match any contract offer and you're still under contract with them, and they could execute a non compete for a year or two years. You physically can't work anywhere else. Now they have to pay you at the rate commensurate with whatever you're offered. Otherwise it's it's you can't make them into employees. There's so many reasons why. The biggest reason, the most obvious reason that nobody talks about is college sports operates in under a tax free umbrella, and it saves hundreds of thousands of dollars at our level and millions upon millions of dollars Otherwise, the second they become employees, every benefit they get, every benefit is taxed. In addition to the fact that now all of a sudden they become state employees, and there's all these different processes in terms of being being an employee. When the idea is like, hey, let's how about we get kids a chance to get a great education, to play sports, and yeah, get a little bit of money in their pocket, why not. Nobody's ever been against that. What they've been against is what's happening now where school after school, year after year, new whole, new team.

By the way, media contracts, I don't know how many people would know this. Media contracts totally one side. Any place I've left, if they if they wanted to, they don't execute it. But if they wanted to, they can match any contract offer and you're still under contract with them, and they could execute a non compete for a year or two years. You physically can't work anywhere else. Now they have to pay you at the rate commensurate with whatever you're offered. Otherwise it's it's you can't make them into employees. There's so many reasons why. The biggest reason, the most obvious reason that nobody talks about is college sports operates in under a tax free umbrella, and it saves hundreds of thousands of dollars at our level and millions upon millions of dollars Otherwise, the second they become employees, every benefit they get, every benefit is taxed. In addition to the fact that now all of a sudden they become state employees, and there's all these different processes in terms of being being an employee. When the idea is like, hey, let's how about we get kids a chance to get a great education, to play sports, and yeah, get a little bit of money in their pocket, why not. Nobody's ever been against that. What they've been against is what's happening now where school after school, year after year, new whole, new team.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Does it look bad when and when a coach goes from Drake to West Virginia for a year and he goes to Indiana. Sure, but I think there was a two point six million dollar buyout for West Virginia which will pay for their new head coach for this year. That's what contracts have. They have buyouts in addition to which it happens a handful of times, whereas you're talking about a thousand already and likely to be two or three thousand kids in the transfer portal. And there's other parts to it which aren't great. And look, there's success stories. The year before I got here, all Horizon League player gets big money.

Does it look bad when and when a coach goes from Drake to West Virginia for a year and he goes to Indiana. Sure, but I think there was a two point six million dollar buyout for West Virginia which will pay for their new head coach for this year. That's what contracts have. They have buyouts in addition to which it happens a handful of times, whereas you're talking about a thousand already and likely to be two or three thousand kids in the transfer portal. And there's other parts to it which aren't great. And look, there's success stories. The year before I got here, all Horizon League player gets big money.

Last year kid named Noah Reynolds.

Last year kid named Noah Reynolds.

To go to TCU, and good for him, My best player, Anthony Roy, if he doesn't choose to go to the NBA Draft because of it because he was injured and he played eleven games after leading the country and scoring, he'll make a crazy money. Else, that's great, that's awesome. Those things you should have. But just all the movement to movement, it's not the transfer portal. It's a transfer rule that you don't have to sit out of here. So then when you have your fifth and sixth and seventh school, how are we ever going to have an alumni game?

To go to TCU, and good for him, My best player, Anthony Roy, if he doesn't choose to go to the NBA Draft because of it because he was injured and he played eleven games after leading the country and scoring, he'll make a crazy money. Else, that's great, that's awesome. Those things you should have. But just all the movement to movement, it's not the transfer portal. It's a transfer rule that you don't have to sit out of here. So then when you have your fifth and sixth and seventh school, how are we ever going to have an alumni game?

Ever? Again? What will you ever? Who will you ever call on when you need a job for your basketball family? Ever? What connection do you have with the university. Let's get to Greg Twey with the news.

Ever? Again? What will you ever? Who will you ever call on when you need a job for your basketball family? Ever? What connection do you have with the university. Let's get to Greg Twey with the news.

No, no, no, this is the herd line news. All right, Dougar.

No, no, no, this is the herd line news. All right, Dougar.

So last time, we finally got our first OT game in the tournament, with Texas dech rallying past Arkansas. Sweet sixteen continues tonight, Ole Miss Michigan State kick us off in the South, Kentucky Tennessee in the Midwest, followed by the night cap Michigan first number one seed Auburn in the South as well, and then uh Purdue in Houston. Are we feeling more chalk tonight? Are feeling a little chalky still?

So last time, we finally got our first OT game in the tournament, with Texas dech rallying past Arkansas. Sweet sixteen continues tonight, Ole Miss Michigan State kick us off in the South, Kentucky Tennessee in the Midwest, followed by the night cap Michigan first number one seed Auburn in the South as well, and then uh Purdue in Houston. Are we feeling more chalk tonight? Are feeling a little chalky still?

Uh? Of these games? I mean, I've told you I've mostly mostly been chalk. I was.

Uh? Of these games? I mean, I've told you I've mostly mostly been chalk. I was.

I was all chalk last night and I was three and one, not because I cared about the blind.

I was all chalk last night and I was three and one, not because I cared about the blind.

Uh.

Uh.

Yet, I do think Tennessee beats Kentucky. I think Purdue beats Uh. I do think Houston beats Purdue.

Yet, I do think Tennessee beats Kentucky. I think Purdue beats Uh. I do think Houston beats Purdue.

Okay, Auburn.

Okay, Auburn.

Michigan is big and strong, but I don't love their guard play per se, and I think Aubura on some level will speed them up. The only one that I kind of like is I kind of like old Miss interesting Michigan State.

Michigan is big and strong, but I don't love their guard play per se, and I think Aubura on some level will speed them up. The only one that I kind of like is I kind of like old Miss interesting Michigan State.

Chris Beard.

Chris Beard.

Huh yeah, you're a big Chris Beard.

Huh yeah, you're a big Chris Beard.

Fan.

Fan.

I am a Chris Biger. He's a friend and I think he's an incredible coach. I also I love their point guard. He he goes to He went to Shampadula, went to Edmund Edmund North. Shampadula is a stud. He was at Virginia Tech. And he's so good man. And like, look, if you're gonna be white kid with the head band, you.

I am a Chris Biger. He's a friend and I think he's an incredible coach. I also I love their point guard. He he goes to He went to Shampadula, went to Edmund Edmund North. Shampadula is a stud. He was at Virginia Tech. And he's so good man. And like, look, if you're gonna be white kid with the head band, you.

Better with the tournament.

Better with the tournament.

And he's an absolute hooper in the tournament. He's played two tournament games and been very good, very good in.

And he's an absolute hooper in the tournament. He's played two tournament games and been very good, very good in.

Both of them.

Both of them.

I want to see Rick Barnes get back to the final four. Biggest thing, biggest knock on him has always been he can't win these big games in the tournament.

I want to see Rick Barnes get back to the final four. Biggest thing, biggest knock on him has always been he can't win these big games in the tournament.

Well can't score, they can't score. And this interesting interesting against.

Well can't score, they can't score. And this interesting interesting against.

UH, It'll be interesting against Katucky. Now when he has gotten to the final four, he has made deep runs. Generally, it's when he has DJ Augustine TJ Ford. TJ Ford took him to a final four. It's when he has quality point guard play, quality point guard play, and Szekaia Ziegler is a quality point guard.

UH, It'll be interesting against Katucky. Now when he has gotten to the final four, he has made deep runs. Generally, it's when he has DJ Augustine TJ Ford. TJ Ford took him to a final four. It's when he has quality point guard play, quality point guard play, and Szekaia Ziegler is a quality point guard.

So wouldn' stunt me definitely.

So wouldn' stunt me definitely.

Have the Dodgers officially become the new evil empire in baseball. Obviously, everybody's been mad at the Dodgers for the last couple of years. How they put their team together, that's no surprise.

Have the Dodgers officially become the new evil empire in baseball. Obviously, everybody's been mad at the Dodgers for the last couple of years. How they put their team together, that's no surprise.

Every who's everybody.

Every who's everybody.

Well, I think it's more of like a I think it's I think it's a media thing. I think it's a fan opposing fan thing, you know. I think they just feel like they're taking they're taking all the cake for themselves. But this week Dodgers CEO stand cast until Bob Knight and go At USA today said, we keep hearing people calls the evil empire. If we win the next five years in a row, go ahead, you can call us that, but we're a long way for us to be called evil, let alone an empire. We're proud of what we accomplished, but there's still a lot left to accomplish. So call us evil, calls the favorite, But we're good for our fans that love us, and we're good for the fans that hate us. My thing is, I mean, are the Dodgers really villains because they have so all their stars are re likable Otani Freddie Freeman, who keeps bad.

Well, I think it's more of like a I think it's I think it's a media thing. I think it's a fan opposing fan thing, you know. I think they just feel like they're taking they're taking all the cake for themselves. But this week Dodgers CEO stand cast until Bob Knight and go At USA today said, we keep hearing people calls the evil empire. If we win the next five years in a row, go ahead, you can call us that, but we're a long way for us to be called evil, let alone an empire. We're proud of what we accomplished, but there's still a lot left to accomplish. So call us evil, calls the favorite, But we're good for our fans that love us, and we're good for the fans that hate us. My thing is, I mean, are the Dodgers really villains because they have so all their stars are re likable Otani Freddie Freeman, who keeps bad.

I think I think their ability to. I think their ability to h uh move show Heyotani's money to be deferred.

I think I think their ability to. I think their ability to h uh move show Heyotani's money to be deferred.

Just being smarter than everybody else?

Just being smarter than everybody else?

Does that make you evil if you're smarter though, Yeah, I don't know.

Does that make you evil if you're smarter though, Yeah, I don't know.

I mean, they have a lot of money, They spend a lot of money. I think it's good for the sport. You want to have somebody to now do I think it makes it super competitive? No, but if you want to be more now. They do have the tax system, you know, so it's like anything else. They found loopholes and they're willing to pay whatever there is in tax. So for that part that that everybody's pockets get filled when the Dodgers sing it.

I mean, they have a lot of money, They spend a lot of money. I think it's good for the sport. You want to have somebody to now do I think it makes it super competitive? No, but if you want to be more now. They do have the tax system, you know, so it's like anything else. They found loopholes and they're willing to pay whatever there is in tax. So for that part that that everybody's pockets get filled when the Dodgers sing it.

I agree, I agree, And I just think I think this whole like Dodgers versus the field thing, I think it's a great storyline to fall throughout the year. And let's be honest, if they don't win the World Series this year, how are we gonna look at them like it was a massive failure.

I agree, I agree, And I just think I think this whole like Dodgers versus the field thing, I think it's a great storyline to fall throughout the year. And let's be honest, if they don't win the World Series this year, how are we gonna look at them like it was a massive failure.

Like their season was a player.

Like their season was a player.

If they don't win the World Series, I think that's how we all look at it.

If they don't win the World Series, I think that's how we all look at it.

Yeah, I mean, I guess, yeah, I mean, I think I think it'll be looked that way. I don't think that's the case. You know, again, we don't know. It's like a lot like bad holiday. When you joined us, He's like, well are they gonna stay healthy? You know what what happened? And it's baseball. Things go bump to night. But yeah, I mean they're the definitely the odds on favorite. They won it last year. But remember they had to they had to have an incredible last two games against the Padres where it looked like they were dead rights against Padres. Right, So baseball is is quirky enough to where you know there's a lot greater chance than somebody else went with than they.

Yeah, I mean, I guess, yeah, I mean, I think I think it'll be looked that way. I don't think that's the case. You know, again, we don't know. It's like a lot like bad holiday. When you joined us, He's like, well are they gonna stay healthy? You know what what happened? And it's baseball. Things go bump to night. But yeah, I mean they're the definitely the odds on favorite. They won it last year. But remember they had to they had to have an incredible last two games against the Padres where it looked like they were dead rights against Padres. Right, So baseball is is quirky enough to where you know there's a lot greater chance than somebody else went with than they.

That's the news.

That's the news.

Well, that's the news, and thanks for stopping by The Herd Line news.

Well, that's the news, and thanks for stopping by The Herd Line news.

All right.

All right.

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It's the Herd, Fox Sports Radio, iHeartRadio app I. We'll talk a little bit about tonight's games NCAA Tournament. In a second, is it Friday. It's the end of the show. I got something saying for you. I think you're gonna like it. It is not everything is better than it used to be, more efficient, maybe not not better.

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It's what brings us too. Best for Last.

It's what brings us too. Best for Last.

It's almost the end of the show. But that doesn't mean we're phoning it in. Nope, we grind it the very last segment. It's time for best for Last.

It's almost the end of the show. But that doesn't mean we're phoning it in. Nope, we grind it the very last segment. It's time for best for Last.

Okay, last night, the Chicago Bulls had an amazing comeback. Right with twelve seconds go there down five points to hit a three where Lebron stunningly leaves his man open the corner. Then he takes the inbounced pass and almost like Isaiah Thomas against the Celtics, when dj S.

Okay, last night, the Chicago Bulls had an amazing comeback. Right with twelve seconds go there down five points to hit a three where Lebron stunningly leaves his man open the corner. Then he takes the inbounced pass and almost like Isaiah Thomas against the Celtics, when dj S.

Tells the ball, he bets the bird right.

Tells the ball, he bets the bird right.

But the Lakers did get the ball back and Austin Reeves does get a layup in what should have won the game for them.

But the Lakers did get the ball back and Austin Reeves does get a layup in what should have won the game for them.

But then this happened for the Bulls.

But then this happened for the Bulls.

Here's leaves leaves straight. There's a lot of timeouts. Two seconds on Danny for the leaves.

Here's leaves leaves straight. There's a lot of timeouts. Two seconds on Danny for the leaves.

I have, I am possible, Oh, Stacy King uh is the is the color analyst of the call, which brings us to our best for last.

I have, I am possible, Oh, Stacy King uh is the is the color analyst of the call, which brings us to our best for last.

Oh sorry, already had the best for last. My bad. Okay, So here's what I thought.

Oh sorry, already had the best for last. My bad. Okay, So here's what I thought.

Okay, that line, the Elizabeth I'm coming for you that comes from Sanford and Son, doesn't it?

Okay, that line, the Elizabeth I'm coming for you that comes from Sanford and Son, doesn't it?

Elizabeth I'm coming to join you, honey? Right?

Elizabeth I'm coming to join you, honey? Right?

And every time something crazy would happen on Sanford and Son, that's what red that was Red Fox is like go to line And maybe this is what's missing most from TV shows again, way more efficient now if we want to watch it, watch a show, you know, anything from you know Landman to yeah, I mean you you picked, you picked the show, right, you picked the show succession. You can binge watch them, right, you can binge watch them. You can watch them whenever you want. You can download it on your iPad, you can watch it on your heck, you can watch it in your car, doesn't even matter. But we we don't have is these go to lines right like you remember, oh what was that different strokes?

And every time something crazy would happen on Sanford and Son, that's what red that was Red Fox is like go to line And maybe this is what's missing most from TV shows again, way more efficient now if we want to watch it, watch a show, you know, anything from you know Landman to yeah, I mean you you picked, you picked the show, right, you picked the show succession. You can binge watch them, right, you can binge watch them. You can watch them whenever you want. You can download it on your iPad, you can watch it on your heck, you can watch it in your car, doesn't even matter. But we we don't have is these go to lines right like you remember, oh what was that different strokes?

Right?

Right?

What you're talking about willis or you had uh JJ from Good Times.

What you're talking about willis or you had uh JJ from Good Times.

When JJ Yeah, that was his line, dy no mind that a light? Do you remember when yeah, with friends not but friends cheers when Norm would walk in, I mean toy that and right, this is like our childhood, this is what this is, and everyone would everyone would have a line that was like their go to line that they would that they would always have. You had.

When JJ Yeah, that was his line, dy no mind that a light? Do you remember when yeah, with friends not but friends cheers when Norm would walk in, I mean toy that and right, this is like our childhood, this is what this is, and everyone would everyone would have a line that was like their go to line that they would that they would always have. You had.

My dad was a big Archie Bunker fan, right, all in the family and he's to call his son in law that's actually Rob Ryner meathead all the time.

My dad was a big Archie Bunker fan, right, all in the family and he's to call his son in law that's actually Rob Ryner meathead all the time.

Yep, two, you have.

Yep, two, you have.

Any any what was your favorite show or your family show that the line that that the one actor would always happen.

Any any what was your favorite show or your family show that the line that that the one actor would always happen.

Well, my wife's a big Seinfeld fan. So the Kramer entrance on Seinfeld was a.

Well, my wife's a big Seinfeld fan. So the Kramer entrance on Seinfeld was a.

Sure sure, which actually felt like sort of a wink wink nod nod right too. I think the most famous like one line of one word was Alfred Fonzarelli the Fawns, when he would say A A A A A Ryan. Are you gonna sit there and tell us how bad seventies and eighties sitcom television was and how how corny all this stuff was.

Sure sure, which actually felt like sort of a wink wink nod nod right too. I think the most famous like one line of one word was Alfred Fonzarelli the Fawns, when he would say A A A A A Ryan. Are you gonna sit there and tell us how bad seventies and eighties sitcom television was and how how corny all this stuff was.

No, I actually liked All the Family, Uh was actually pretty funny.

No, I actually liked All the Family, Uh was actually pretty funny.

Oh my god, hysterical, hysterical, so good, right, Sanford and his Son was an all time or two I mean, really good show. But Stacy Stacey King who Oklahoma first round pick of the Bulls, part of that Bulls first championship team with Michael Jordan, Like that's a quality pull. It's a dated reference, don't get me wrong. Like Towie, did you know that reference?

Oh my god, hysterical, hysterical, so good, right, Sanford and his Son was an all time or two I mean, really good show. But Stacy Stacey King who Oklahoma first round pick of the Bulls, part of that Bulls first championship team with Michael Jordan, Like that's a quality pull. It's a dated reference, don't get me wrong. Like Towie, did you know that reference?

I didn't.

I didn't.

When you told me this morning, I did not. I did not hear. I did not get it. Put tun two together?

When you told me this morning, I did not. I did not hear. I did not get it. Put tun two together?

Ryan, did you know it?

Ryan, did you know it?

Yes?

Yes?

I did.

I did.

Yeah, And I would say that's about that. That's about the ratio, right, if you're like forty or over or somewhere on that forty year over, I would say it's probably in the twenty five percent.

Yeah, And I would say that's about that. That's about the ratio, right, if you're like forty or over or somewhere on that forty year over, I would say it's probably in the twenty five percent.

Get that reference.

Get that reference.

If you're under forty, very a very very small percentage. Even though that show is still probably on on TV Land or Nick at Knight or whatever, like that's just that's a I mean even even references for you mentioned Cheers, I mean, that's that was That was like my family's show. You know, you'd have Cosby Show and then a Different World and then you would have Cheers. That was Thursday night TV. That was so good was first was wasn't it? Cosby Show? Then Family Ties?

If you're under forty, very a very very small percentage. Even though that show is still probably on on TV Land or Nick at Knight or whatever, like that's just that's a I mean even even references for you mentioned Cheers, I mean, that's that was That was like my family's show. You know, you'd have Cosby Show and then a Different World and then you would have Cheers. That was Thursday night TV. That was so good was first was wasn't it? Cosby Show? Then Family Ties?

Then Cheers? Was Family Ties? Different night?

Then Cheers? Was Family Ties? Different night?

I don't remember, but I do remember that most of the comedic actors, you know that whoever the jokesture was in whatever would it would always have one kind of go to line. And when I heard Stacy King break that thing out. But are we done with the Lebron and steven A thing?

I don't remember, but I do remember that most of the comedic actors, you know that whoever the jokesture was in whatever would it would always have one kind of go to line. And when I heard Stacy King break that thing out. But are we done with the Lebron and steven A thing?

Like? Has it ended yet?

Like? Has it ended yet?

Because steven A was like, what was it seventeen minutes uninterrupted on first take yesterday? Have we moved on yet? I just I understand that in terms of replies, right, Lebron won. I don't understand what the what his reasoning was because I felt like he appeared very small despite his immense amount of success, Like he doesn't need to engage.

Because steven A was like, what was it seventeen minutes uninterrupted on first take yesterday? Have we moved on yet? I just I understand that in terms of replies, right, Lebron won. I don't understand what the what his reasoning was because I felt like he appeared very small despite his immense amount of success, Like he doesn't need to engage.

I mean, I think I think stephen A did that so Lebron would respond to him again, he wants this thing to keep going.

I mean, I think I think stephen A did that so Lebron would respond to him again, he wants this thing to keep going.

Yeah, except for what Lebron got up and confronted him during an NBA game, you know, during an NBA game, Like this is crazy, I just you know, and his his thing is, well he made it personal. Well it's impossible not to make it personal. One, it's about your son that people don't think should have been drafted where he's drafted, and the idea he had him out there, you know, first game of the year, throwing him in the game just for a pr thing and you know, full disclosure, you know he had He has had one good shooting game in the NBA, and he had a great game statistically. I didn't watch the game statistically in the G League his last time out. He's clearly improving and getting better. But I don't think anything steven A said was below board or was personal. Again if as Lebron said, hey, I'm okay with talking basketball, talking whenever. So I just don't know why it matters to him.

Yeah, except for what Lebron got up and confronted him during an NBA game, you know, during an NBA game, Like this is crazy, I just you know, and his his thing is, well he made it personal. Well it's impossible not to make it personal. One, it's about your son that people don't think should have been drafted where he's drafted, and the idea he had him out there, you know, first game of the year, throwing him in the game just for a pr thing and you know, full disclosure, you know he had He has had one good shooting game in the NBA, and he had a great game statistically. I didn't watch the game statistically in the G League his last time out. He's clearly improving and getting better. But I don't think anything steven A said was below board or was personal. Again if as Lebron said, hey, I'm okay with talking basketball, talking whenever. So I just don't know why it matters to him.

I don't.

I don't.

Well, like you said when you were I think it was a couple weeks ago when you were filling in you said once he went pro, basically, the gloves are off. He's fair game for anybody to.

Well, like you said when you were I think it was a couple weeks ago when you were filling in you said once he went pro, basically, the gloves are off. He's fair game for anybody to.

Even when you say the gloves are off, it's not like like nobody's beating like I'm not on social media.

Even when you say the gloves are off, it's not like like nobody's beating like I'm not on social media.

I'm not beating up on him.

I'm not beating up on him.

Yeah no, no, no, just like, look, dude, he barely played last year. He should have played and had his confidence now he's getting his confidence. The other part too, it is I think he had thirty nine in the G League. What's crazy about that is like, he never had thirty in a high school game. Ever, at thirty nine in a high school game, I don't think you ever had thirty in an AAU game once.

Yeah no, no, no, just like, look, dude, he barely played last year. He should have played and had his confidence now he's getting his confidence. The other part too, it is I think he had thirty nine in the G League. What's crazy about that is like, he never had thirty in a high school game. Ever, at thirty nine in a high school game, I don't think you ever had thirty in an AAU game once.

He was in high school. And the point is, you're like, why does that matter? Scoring is not everything?

He was in high school. And the point is, you're like, why does that matter? Scoring is not everything?

I agree, and it's one of the reasons that I always thought that if he ever got a shot, he would have a shot, because his only chance to really making the NBA is is a role player. But an NBA player generally, unless you're a super late bloomer and you grow late whatever. Usually there's a couple of games in high school where you're like, that's what NBA, especially for McDonald's American, Like, that's what it looks like and that wasn't him. And that's fair critique. But I guess because about his son, I get it. I get a son who plays. Nobody likes it feels personal, but it should be a fair game.