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So Joel Klatt, you know, former Colorado football stud Colorado kid. We were both lamenting when Denver got eliminated by Minnesota. Boston sort of probably breathed a sigh of religion. Yeah, I mean like Boston won the title that night. Yeah, the matchups little did anyone know? Yeah, Dallas doesn't have enough defense because Luca's a liability and so's Kyrie, and Minnesota didn't have the offense. That's right. So basically Boston has benefited greatly, Yeah, from Denver getting knocked out and Denver still the favorite for next year. But it is interesting. I watched the It's a non college football topic, but something you know a lot about because you know the industry people. You know, because the NBA, every call is like pass interference. It's all objective, it's all subjective. Everybody thinks the league is rigged. I can assure you Boston got every late call last night, which is exactly the opposite with the league or ESPN wanted. It was their nightmare scenario. Of course, every go either way call went to the team, leading to nothing in the series. Networks hemorrhage money on sweet That's right, they hemorrhage money and whether league by the way, they want the games. They want more discussion about the league. Of course, every single like in Baseball or the NFL, peek behind the curtain. The networks sell as if the series is going to go six games. So any any series that goes fewer than six games, the network loses money and they have to do what's called them make good on different programming wherever it is on all of the those sales items. So every call that went Boston's way last night, everyone in the league and ed ESPN was like no. When I worked at the other place, it was palpable detention. If a series was going to be a sweep. You could sense it in the building. It was like not good. Notes, Boston is bad for business. I mean, listen, they're fifteen and two in the playoffs. I'll say it I sense it around here. Every Faulder in the World Series. That's all I'm rooting for. Everybody. By the way, I'm a baseball I'm rooting for seven. Yeah, fans think you're rooting for a team Fox, ESPNNBC seven for seven. That's it. That's all we're rooting for. But he gets from bonus. That's right when it gets to seven. So you recently interviewed Steve Sarkejan, Let's play a moment of this interview. As you've interviewed done notable coaches around.

So Joel Klatt, you know, former Colorado football stud Colorado kid. We were both lamenting when Denver got eliminated by Minnesota. Boston sort of probably breathed a sigh of religion. Yeah, I mean like Boston won the title that night. Yeah, the matchups little did anyone know? Yeah, Dallas doesn't have enough defense because Luca's a liability and so's Kyrie, and Minnesota didn't have the offense. That's right. So basically Boston has benefited greatly, Yeah, from Denver getting knocked out and Denver still the favorite for next year. But it is interesting. I watched the It's a non college football topic, but something you know a lot about because you know the industry people. You know, because the NBA, every call is like pass interference. It's all objective, it's all subjective. Everybody thinks the league is rigged. I can assure you Boston got every late call last night, which is exactly the opposite with the league or ESPN wanted. It was their nightmare scenario. Of course, every go either way call went to the team, leading to nothing in the series. Networks hemorrhage money on sweet That's right, they hemorrhage money and whether league by the way, they want the games. They want more discussion about the league. Of course, every single like in Baseball or the NFL, peek behind the curtain. The networks sell as if the series is going to go six games. So any any series that goes fewer than six games, the network loses money and they have to do what's called them make good on different programming wherever it is on all of the those sales items. So every call that went Boston's way last night, everyone in the league and ed ESPN was like no. When I worked at the other place, it was palpable detention. If a series was going to be a sweep. You could sense it in the building. It was like not good. Notes, Boston is bad for business. I mean, listen, they're fifteen and two in the playoffs. I'll say it I sense it around here. Every Faulder in the World Series. That's all I'm rooting for. Everybody. By the way, I'm a baseball I'm rooting for seven. Yeah, fans think you're rooting for a team Fox, ESPNNBC seven for seven. That's it. That's all we're rooting for. But he gets from bonus. That's right when it gets to seven. So you recently interviewed Steve Sarkejan, Let's play a moment of this interview. As you've interviewed done notable coaches around.

The league, of all the stuff that's happening. How good can our culture be in this building right, whether it's the players, whether it's the support staff, whether it's the coaching staff, whether it's the administration. Is everybody on the same accord. Is everybody talking the same language? Is everybody working together? Do we have a healthy environment that people want to come in here every day?

The league, of all the stuff that's happening. How good can our culture be in this building right, whether it's the players, whether it's the support staff, whether it's the coaching staff, whether it's the administration. Is everybody on the same accord. Is everybody talking the same language? Is everybody working together? Do we have a healthy environment that people want to come in here every day?

Yeah? I have always thought this is the most appealing national program in the country. Uniforms, city gravitas. I think Texas football feels gigantic. The problem is that everybody in Texas knows it's gigantic, and it can be a little high maintenance behind the scene. I think that that's absolutely fair. I think for the ever since Mac mac brown started to remember, they went to the National Championship game and lost with Cold McCoy getting injured in that game to Alabama, Nick Saban's first title at Alabama. From that point until last year, way too many cooks in the kitchen at Texas. Every booster wanted their way, and they've got Rich Houston, They've got a lot of influential people. And I give the Texas administration a lot of credit. Crystal Conti is their athletic director. They allowed Steve Sarkisian to come in and build his program, and that hasn't really been the case over that last period of time, you know, fourteen fifteen years at Texas, and Steve's done a remarkable job. And I think what you heard in that answer is why they're starting to have success, and that's because they have an internal standard and they don't allow themselves to be defined by outside entities. And I think that that's, by the way, a real epidemic across our culture. I think that we as a culture or individuals or an organization can allow people to define us, and then we allow those expectations to be heaped onto our shoulders, and we try to measure up to what others think we should be. And I think the most successful people, whether it's individuals or organizations in life, internally define what they are, who they are, and how they're going to have success. And that's what Texas feels like to me when I go down there, like I did this offseason, covered them last year. We'll cover them again week two as they travel to Michigan to face the defending that national champions. When I'm around Steve Sarkisian, he's very comfortable in his own skin because he defines himself and sets his own standards for him as an individual and for their program. And I think that's what's so valuable about what he's doing right now now now a program that doesn't have that big feel I got a little into itself. Colorado and Dion got a little into themselves last year. Chaduur and Dion And let me let me pose you a question a lot of noise, let me pose you a question about Colorado. Did Dion change at all from the day he was hired until today or did the outside expectations change based on the way that the season started like did so basically, I'm saying, did you change or did Dion change? You telling me he got all of a sudden he got full of himself. Really, was that the case? Or is what you expected of him and his program different? Based on the way that they started to see, well, when you talk the game, I want to see you walk the game. And it felt like they were a little better at the pr than the football by the end of the season. Okay, was a four hundred percent increase in wins better? Well, they were a one win team and totally irrelevant. And I think people forget about that. It's not like he took over somebody. Here's the nil here. You should be able to improve pretty quickly. Yeah, and they did four hundred percent. I don't know, did you not hear what I just said? I wasn't good at math? Four hundred percent? You know, a plus three in the win column, four wins from one. It was a success. Now, did they fall short of even their own expectations? Yes, And he would have said that. And I thought that they let some games go that they should have won, and Stanford being one of them, and probably Oregon State being another. And now all of a sudden. You're talking about a team that they feel like probably should have been a bowl team and fell short of that. I would pose you this question. I have been accused of being a homer and apologists for Colorado Now best journalist. However, should or the quarterback Dean Sung was sacked over fifty times last year. It was the clear weakness on a team that was very competitive if they protected. Yeah, they were bad upfront. They have totally rebuilt their offensive line through the transfer portal, mainly and getting Jordan Seaton, the number one rated offensive tackle in the recruiting cycle last year. I'm just going to throw out a hypothetical. If they can now go from giving up over fifty sacks to giving up somewhere in the high twenties, which is still a lot. I'm not saying that they're the most dominant offensive line in college football. I'm saying that they're middle of the pack average high twenties in terms of sacks. Tell me where their win total goes in a schedule that's going to be far more easy, I would argue than it was a year ago. You see, this is why I say, yeah, there's a path to eight or nine wins and everyone's like, what are you talking about? Well, the schedule. Just look at it for a moment and think to yourself, with the growth of the growth of the offensive line, what they are if he is upright in the pocket, with the skill position players they have on the outside, and the schedule that they face far difficult, far more difficult early than it is throughout the entirety of the schedule it is. It is not impossible. And I think that probably likely that Colorado wins at least eight games, maybe more.

Yeah? I have always thought this is the most appealing national program in the country. Uniforms, city gravitas. I think Texas football feels gigantic. The problem is that everybody in Texas knows it's gigantic, and it can be a little high maintenance behind the scene. I think that that's absolutely fair. I think for the ever since Mac mac brown started to remember, they went to the National Championship game and lost with Cold McCoy getting injured in that game to Alabama, Nick Saban's first title at Alabama. From that point until last year, way too many cooks in the kitchen at Texas. Every booster wanted their way, and they've got Rich Houston, They've got a lot of influential people. And I give the Texas administration a lot of credit. Crystal Conti is their athletic director. They allowed Steve Sarkisian to come in and build his program, and that hasn't really been the case over that last period of time, you know, fourteen fifteen years at Texas, and Steve's done a remarkable job. And I think what you heard in that answer is why they're starting to have success, and that's because they have an internal standard and they don't allow themselves to be defined by outside entities. And I think that that's, by the way, a real epidemic across our culture. I think that we as a culture or individuals or an organization can allow people to define us, and then we allow those expectations to be heaped onto our shoulders, and we try to measure up to what others think we should be. And I think the most successful people, whether it's individuals or organizations in life, internally define what they are, who they are, and how they're going to have success. And that's what Texas feels like to me when I go down there, like I did this offseason, covered them last year. We'll cover them again week two as they travel to Michigan to face the defending that national champions. When I'm around Steve Sarkisian, he's very comfortable in his own skin because he defines himself and sets his own standards for him as an individual and for their program. And I think that's what's so valuable about what he's doing right now now now a program that doesn't have that big feel I got a little into itself. Colorado and Dion got a little into themselves last year. Chaduur and Dion And let me let me pose you a question a lot of noise, let me pose you a question about Colorado. Did Dion change at all from the day he was hired until today or did the outside expectations change based on the way that the season started like did so basically, I'm saying, did you change or did Dion change? You telling me he got all of a sudden he got full of himself. Really, was that the case? Or is what you expected of him and his program different? Based on the way that they started to see, well, when you talk the game, I want to see you walk the game. And it felt like they were a little better at the pr than the football by the end of the season. Okay, was a four hundred percent increase in wins better? Well, they were a one win team and totally irrelevant. And I think people forget about that. It's not like he took over somebody. Here's the nil here. You should be able to improve pretty quickly. Yeah, and they did four hundred percent. I don't know, did you not hear what I just said? I wasn't good at math? Four hundred percent? You know, a plus three in the win column, four wins from one. It was a success. Now, did they fall short of even their own expectations? Yes, And he would have said that. And I thought that they let some games go that they should have won, and Stanford being one of them, and probably Oregon State being another. And now all of a sudden. You're talking about a team that they feel like probably should have been a bowl team and fell short of that. I would pose you this question. I have been accused of being a homer and apologists for Colorado Now best journalist. However, should or the quarterback Dean Sung was sacked over fifty times last year. It was the clear weakness on a team that was very competitive if they protected. Yeah, they were bad upfront. They have totally rebuilt their offensive line through the transfer portal, mainly and getting Jordan Seaton, the number one rated offensive tackle in the recruiting cycle last year. I'm just going to throw out a hypothetical. If they can now go from giving up over fifty sacks to giving up somewhere in the high twenties, which is still a lot. I'm not saying that they're the most dominant offensive line in college football. I'm saying that they're middle of the pack average high twenties in terms of sacks. Tell me where their win total goes in a schedule that's going to be far more easy, I would argue than it was a year ago. You see, this is why I say, yeah, there's a path to eight or nine wins and everyone's like, what are you talking about? Well, the schedule. Just look at it for a moment and think to yourself, with the growth of the growth of the offensive line, what they are if he is upright in the pocket, with the skill position players they have on the outside, and the schedule that they face far difficult, far more difficult early than it is throughout the entirety of the schedule it is. It is not impossible. And I think that probably likely that Colorado wins at least eight games, maybe more.

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Well, what I want to pivot to all these pac twelve schools going to the Big Ten. So the Big Ten, it's feeling themselves now because Michigan won the Natty. Now, the previous fifteen years they got pushed around mostly by the SEC. But they're feeling themselves and and and but now Jim Harbaugh left and so did twenty players and a lot of like senior leaders and old I mean they Michigan. You're saying, yeah, I mean they lost like every I mean they lost everybody. I mean these were red shirt senior I mean everybody. I shouldn't say everybody. They lost a lot of here's where the Big Ten uh flyover country. It's gonna have to listen, uncle Colin, who grew up on the West Coast. Let's see what do we got. Oregon's gonna Oregon is gonna beat Ohio State and Eugene are they It's gonna be Ohio State's only loss on the year. They're gonna go on to win the national championship. So I'm calling it, But I think the Big Ten these are big pronouncements in the summer. Yeah, a lot of these Big Ten fans think, oh, they can't play this physical football. I would argue, at least this year, because of the Michigan regression, new staff, new players, Michigan's gonna pull back that the best team will be Ohio State. They''ll lose at Oregon, and then the next two to three best teams will be from the West Coast and it will be an invasion of aerial excellence and they'll be a little on their heels. You're trying so hard to not say usc like you're all in, You're all in on US. I think Jedfish very clever in Washington. Think I think Lincoln Riley Arry Washington lost more as far as ACTA players than even Michigan. I'm just gonna say, keep your eye on ore again. Beating Ohio State USC very clever. Now Lincoln gets his offense back a little. Let me let me pose this this idea for you and and I think that everyone has to wrap their arms around this. In the new era that we'll be going into this year with the twelve team playoffs, Yes, these non conference games are going to be massive, in particular against teams that you would suspector or expect to be in this in a similar position within their league in the SEC and the Big Ten. And that's what we have with LSU and USC. And they play each other, and so the winner of that game is going to feel like they have an opportunity to go and finish in third or second in their conference, because I don't think either of them will win their conference with some of the strength that we have on the top end. But if USC wins that game against LSU, they've got to think to themselves, Okay, we can go be a playoffs game. USC got a total break. No Oregon, no Ohio State, Michigan in a total rebuild, and LSU as bad defensively they've ever been losing Jayden Daniels in Las Vegas, which which gotta feel like a good break. You cannot get a bigger break than the USC got in their first year schedule. Okay, So so I'm with you, right, I'm no bullition, games, clever, really good skilled people. Everybody's talking about West Coast people can't handle a few snowflakes. I'm staying Midwest people. Welcome to the brain power and offensive symmetry of the West Coast. Well, I mean we will see and then and then to to to echo your point about Oregon that is big, but that that is really really good. Yeah, they have good quarterbacks, They are really good. I think that there are four teams in the country that are clearly right now better than everybody else, at least now sitting here in the summer in the Texas, Ohio State, Georgia, Texas, Ohio State, Georgia, and Oregon. Yep, the Oregon Ducks. Those four teams are going to be in the top four. I saw you were a little shy when I said Oregon's beating Ohio State. You're on that game, I'm not, Well, that's stupid. I believe I believe that that is one of our network partners that have that game. Well, we'll have to get rid of them. Well, let me tell you something, Oregon. I know Ohio State has a hard time believe in this. Oregon's nil. They buy five star guys too. Well, of course, of course they do. And I love Dan Lanning and what he's built there. And I've said this publicly and I've said it on our Big New Conversation. I went up to Eugene Dan actually, you know, I was around the team for a couple of days, spoke with them, spoke to them, and then interviewed Dan and and I said it right to his face, and he got sheepish and his face turned red. But I was like, listen, if there is a young coach, okay, so remember this is only going to be his third year as a head coach. If there's a young coach in America that I could buy stock in, it would be Dan Lanning. Yeah. I think I didn't think a Georgia kid. I didn't think a Southern kid would come up here and fit so seamlessly. Not only that, but he really loves it. You don't think he had an opportunity to at least peek at that Alabama job. And he said, you know what, No, I'm good here. And he really loves Eugene and more importantly, his family loves Eugene. Yeah, and he's got young kids. And he said to himself, I'm good And this is the most important part. We're actually sitting there playing golf together and he says, and I know I can do it here. And I'm like, okay, there we go. So he's seen it. He was at Georgia and won a national championship as an assistant coach. He knows what it takes. He knows the players and what they should look like. He knows what the culture should look like. He understands the backing. That's exactly where. He understands the financial backing that it takes. And even he knows, like, we can do it here. And and this team is going to have a real chance. I think Oregon's gonna have a real chance not only to win the Big Ten, but to compete for and potentially win the national championship. No, I'm excited for it. So you got Sark, Dion Sanders, Matt Ruhle, Ryan Day, Kaylin de Boor, James Franklin, Dan Lanning. I am usually a believer, Like when Howard Stern leaves FM Radio, don't take the job. Take the job from the guy who that replaced it the bam ASSISI when I retire, the poor schmuck that takes over for me is done. Well, I've already worked it into my contract and we're going to just go to the moon. No, I'm kidding. I think the person that replaces the legends toast. I think Kaylin de Boor could be a little bumpy this year. I think he is in a short list of the best coach in the country. No, I agree, and and okay, so there. I think he's brilliant. I think to this idea I keep I keep thinking about. I was actually sitting up you know, I'm a golf nut, and so I'll watch, you know, things in a particular, anything Tiger Woods that comes on the TV. I'm just in. It's Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, Muhammad Ali, any of these. I'm like, yes, I want to watch documentary shows, whatever it is. And the show comes on about Tiger, and he was talking about and his child sports psychologist was talking about the importance not of his technical ability ability as a kid, but that he learned how to win and he won everything as a kid, and how that's what translated and how you see a lot of these in particular golf phenoms as kids. Well the phenom aspect is their technical ability, but they don't know how to win. This is why Adam Scott or Michelle Wee or are some of these people that were can't miss prospects never actually materialized into what we wanted to see out of them, because why Colin, they didn't know exactly how to win. They knew how to technically.

Well, what I want to pivot to all these pac twelve schools going to the Big Ten. So the Big Ten, it's feeling themselves now because Michigan won the Natty. Now, the previous fifteen years they got pushed around mostly by the SEC. But they're feeling themselves and and and but now Jim Harbaugh left and so did twenty players and a lot of like senior leaders and old I mean they Michigan. You're saying, yeah, I mean they lost like every I mean they lost everybody. I mean these were red shirt senior I mean everybody. I shouldn't say everybody. They lost a lot of here's where the Big Ten uh flyover country. It's gonna have to listen, uncle Colin, who grew up on the West Coast. Let's see what do we got. Oregon's gonna Oregon is gonna beat Ohio State and Eugene are they It's gonna be Ohio State's only loss on the year. They're gonna go on to win the national championship. So I'm calling it, But I think the Big Ten these are big pronouncements in the summer. Yeah, a lot of these Big Ten fans think, oh, they can't play this physical football. I would argue, at least this year, because of the Michigan regression, new staff, new players, Michigan's gonna pull back that the best team will be Ohio State. They''ll lose at Oregon, and then the next two to three best teams will be from the West Coast and it will be an invasion of aerial excellence and they'll be a little on their heels. You're trying so hard to not say usc like you're all in, You're all in on US. I think Jedfish very clever in Washington. Think I think Lincoln Riley Arry Washington lost more as far as ACTA players than even Michigan. I'm just gonna say, keep your eye on ore again. Beating Ohio State USC very clever. Now Lincoln gets his offense back a little. Let me let me pose this this idea for you and and I think that everyone has to wrap their arms around this. In the new era that we'll be going into this year with the twelve team playoffs, Yes, these non conference games are going to be massive, in particular against teams that you would suspector or expect to be in this in a similar position within their league in the SEC and the Big Ten. And that's what we have with LSU and USC. And they play each other, and so the winner of that game is going to feel like they have an opportunity to go and finish in third or second in their conference, because I don't think either of them will win their conference with some of the strength that we have on the top end. But if USC wins that game against LSU, they've got to think to themselves, Okay, we can go be a playoffs game. USC got a total break. No Oregon, no Ohio State, Michigan in a total rebuild, and LSU as bad defensively they've ever been losing Jayden Daniels in Las Vegas, which which gotta feel like a good break. You cannot get a bigger break than the USC got in their first year schedule. Okay, So so I'm with you, right, I'm no bullition, games, clever, really good skilled people. Everybody's talking about West Coast people can't handle a few snowflakes. I'm staying Midwest people. Welcome to the brain power and offensive symmetry of the West Coast. Well, I mean we will see and then and then to to to echo your point about Oregon that is big, but that that is really really good. Yeah, they have good quarterbacks, They are really good. I think that there are four teams in the country that are clearly right now better than everybody else, at least now sitting here in the summer in the Texas, Ohio State, Georgia, Texas, Ohio State, Georgia, and Oregon. Yep, the Oregon Ducks. Those four teams are going to be in the top four. I saw you were a little shy when I said Oregon's beating Ohio State. You're on that game, I'm not, Well, that's stupid. I believe I believe that that is one of our network partners that have that game. Well, we'll have to get rid of them. Well, let me tell you something, Oregon. I know Ohio State has a hard time believe in this. Oregon's nil. They buy five star guys too. Well, of course, of course they do. And I love Dan Lanning and what he's built there. And I've said this publicly and I've said it on our Big New Conversation. I went up to Eugene Dan actually, you know, I was around the team for a couple of days, spoke with them, spoke to them, and then interviewed Dan and and I said it right to his face, and he got sheepish and his face turned red. But I was like, listen, if there is a young coach, okay, so remember this is only going to be his third year as a head coach. If there's a young coach in America that I could buy stock in, it would be Dan Lanning. Yeah. I think I didn't think a Georgia kid. I didn't think a Southern kid would come up here and fit so seamlessly. Not only that, but he really loves it. You don't think he had an opportunity to at least peek at that Alabama job. And he said, you know what, No, I'm good here. And he really loves Eugene and more importantly, his family loves Eugene. Yeah, and he's got young kids. And he said to himself, I'm good And this is the most important part. We're actually sitting there playing golf together and he says, and I know I can do it here. And I'm like, okay, there we go. So he's seen it. He was at Georgia and won a national championship as an assistant coach. He knows what it takes. He knows the players and what they should look like. He knows what the culture should look like. He understands the backing. That's exactly where. He understands the financial backing that it takes. And even he knows, like, we can do it here. And and this team is going to have a real chance. I think Oregon's gonna have a real chance not only to win the Big Ten, but to compete for and potentially win the national championship. No, I'm excited for it. So you got Sark, Dion Sanders, Matt Ruhle, Ryan Day, Kaylin de Boor, James Franklin, Dan Lanning. I am usually a believer, Like when Howard Stern leaves FM Radio, don't take the job. Take the job from the guy who that replaced it the bam ASSISI when I retire, the poor schmuck that takes over for me is done. Well, I've already worked it into my contract and we're going to just go to the moon. No, I'm kidding. I think the person that replaces the legends toast. I think Kaylin de Boor could be a little bumpy this year. I think he is in a short list of the best coach in the country. No, I agree, and and okay, so there. I think he's brilliant. I think to this idea I keep I keep thinking about. I was actually sitting up you know, I'm a golf nut, and so I'll watch, you know, things in a particular, anything Tiger Woods that comes on the TV. I'm just in. It's Michael Jordan, Tiger Woods, Muhammad Ali, any of these. I'm like, yes, I want to watch documentary shows, whatever it is. And the show comes on about Tiger, and he was talking about and his child sports psychologist was talking about the importance not of his technical ability ability as a kid, but that he learned how to win and he won everything as a kid, and how that's what translated and how you see a lot of these in particular golf phenoms as kids. Well the phenom aspect is their technical ability, but they don't know how to win. This is why Adam Scott or Michelle Wee or are some of these people that were can't miss prospects never actually materialized into what we wanted to see out of them, because why Colin, they didn't know exactly how to win. They knew how to technically.

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Play the sport.

De Bor wins everywhere. De Bor has won everyone, and that's Roan. He wins everywhere. And so I'm watching this documentary and that's all I can think about is I was like, Oh, this is Kaylen de Boor. He's one hundred and four and twelve as a head coach going back to Sue Falls and then President Satan out Washington, and so yes, if you're gonna have a guy that takes over for arguably, and I would admit this the the absolute greatest college football coach of all time? Who would you have do it? A guy that just wins, and so that's Kaylen de Boor And I think that that mindset and that skill hopefully translates for him and for the Alabama faithful. I will say this though, it's just so unique. We don't see it the last time that a coach left a program, whether it was to take another job or retire at the top, and then they hired someone from outside to take his spot. I'm going back in my mind and I was like, it's gotta be Dennis Rickson taking over for Jimmy Johnson. He won a title with Jimmy's guys, and he won a title with Jimmy's guys, which then made me start to think more about, Okay, can Caitlin do that? Absolutely? What do you think he just did with Washington? The majority of those players Peter Roma Dunse, they were Chris Peterson's players. Now did he add to that with a guy he had coached when he was a coordinator at Indiana with Michael Pinnix. Yes, and he will add and he's doing that recruiting very well at Alabama. I'm starting to become bullish for Kaylin Debor in Alabama, the risk becomes, here's the risk for a place that has been the alpha in the sport. They have been the standard. By the way, Kirby Smart, He's like fifty to four in his last fifty four games, one and three against Alabama. Three of the four losses have been Alabama. So as much as Georgia has run the sport and won two national championships, he never really solves Nick Saban and Alabama. You could say that Alabama is still the standard. Well, they're the standard now and in this transition they will be at risk because two of the four best teams in the country are in their conference, Texas and Georgia. They have the resources, they have the coaches, and they have the athletes to put aside Alabama. And that's the challenge for Kaylin de Bores to maintain his presence and more specifically, the program's presence as the pre eminent program, not only in the South but in the country. All Right, san Antonio Brahm is playing the Birmingham Stallion STAFL favorites. They're the dynasty, they've dominated. What do you think? So I'm headed to Saint Louis. I'm headed to Tuscaloosa tonight. I'm gonna sit down with Kaylin tomorrow. Direct flight. Yes, yeah, I wish maybe on air Collin, but no, not not on I'm gonna think about that as a business opportunity, right, I.

De Bor wins everywhere. De Bor has won everyone, and that's Roan. He wins everywhere. And so I'm watching this documentary and that's all I can think about is I was like, Oh, this is Kaylen de Boor. He's one hundred and four and twelve as a head coach going back to Sue Falls and then President Satan out Washington, and so yes, if you're gonna have a guy that takes over for arguably, and I would admit this the the absolute greatest college football coach of all time? Who would you have do it? A guy that just wins, and so that's Kaylen de Boor And I think that that mindset and that skill hopefully translates for him and for the Alabama faithful. I will say this though, it's just so unique. We don't see it the last time that a coach left a program, whether it was to take another job or retire at the top, and then they hired someone from outside to take his spot. I'm going back in my mind and I was like, it's gotta be Dennis Rickson taking over for Jimmy Johnson. He won a title with Jimmy's guys, and he won a title with Jimmy's guys, which then made me start to think more about, Okay, can Caitlin do that? Absolutely? What do you think he just did with Washington? The majority of those players Peter Roma Dunse, they were Chris Peterson's players. Now did he add to that with a guy he had coached when he was a coordinator at Indiana with Michael Pinnix. Yes, and he will add and he's doing that recruiting very well at Alabama. I'm starting to become bullish for Kaylin Debor in Alabama, the risk becomes, here's the risk for a place that has been the alpha in the sport. They have been the standard. By the way, Kirby Smart, He's like fifty to four in his last fifty four games, one and three against Alabama. Three of the four losses have been Alabama. So as much as Georgia has run the sport and won two national championships, he never really solves Nick Saban and Alabama. You could say that Alabama is still the standard. Well, they're the standard now and in this transition they will be at risk because two of the four best teams in the country are in their conference, Texas and Georgia. They have the resources, they have the coaches, and they have the athletes to put aside Alabama. And that's the challenge for Kaylin de Bores to maintain his presence and more specifically, the program's presence as the pre eminent program, not only in the South but in the country. All Right, san Antonio Brahm is playing the Birmingham Stallion STAFL favorites. They're the dynasty, they've dominated. What do you think? So I'm headed to Saint Louis. I'm headed to Tuscaloosa tonight. I'm gonna sit down with Kaylin tomorrow. Direct flight. Yes, yeah, I wish maybe on air Collin, but no, not not on I'm gonna think about that as a business opportunity, right, I.

Think that would be really good.

Think that would be really good.

And then to Saint Louis UFL Championship game on Fox on Sunday. Birmingham's going for their third straight championship. What's their secret sauce? If I'd never seen the UFL, why are they dominating the sport? Skip Holtz has a has the most quarterback friendly offense in the league, and he gets guys that have ability to then go out there and become stars. And Adrian Martinez has become that for Birmingham Nebraska. He was a Nebraska kid and he has developed greatly. Now he struggled a little bit in the semi final game, but he's the league MVP.

And then to Saint Louis UFL Championship game on Fox on Sunday. Birmingham's going for their third straight championship. What's their secret sauce? If I'd never seen the UFL, why are they dominating the sport? Skip Holtz has a has the most quarterback friendly offense in the league, and he gets guys that have ability to then go out there and become stars. And Adrian Martinez has become that for Birmingham Nebraska. He was a Nebraska kid and he has developed greatly. Now he struggled a little bit in the semi final game, but he's the league MVP.

Now.

Now.

It's back to back years in which the Birmingham quarterback is the league MVP. Last year was Alex Magoo and skip Holtz has done a masterful job. And if I were to boil down, what's the secret sauce for skip Holtz? As a coach, and every coach, by the way, get your notepad out and write down what I'm about to say. Skip Holtz does what every great coach does, which is he coaches and communicates with information and not volume. And that's the key. Every great coach coaches with informations, information and details and not volume. Screaming let's go and finish is not coaching. It's cheerleading. Coach with information and details, and your players will respond. I'm old school. I like to bark at the staff.

It's back to back years in which the Birmingham quarterback is the league MVP. Last year was Alex Magoo and skip Holtz has done a masterful job. And if I were to boil down, what's the secret sauce for skip Holtz? As a coach, and every coach, by the way, get your notepad out and write down what I'm about to say. Skip Holtz does what every great coach does, which is he coaches and communicates with information and not volume. And that's the key. Every great coach coaches with informations, information and details and not volume. Screaming let's go and finish is not coaching. It's cheerleading. Coach with information and details, and your players will respond. I'm old school. I like to bark at the staff.

What do you do?

What do you do?

What do you just hear?

What do you just hear?

Cafe Americana Ryan, Now, hockey scores? Hurry up the meanlik? I want it now. That's how I that's all it works here, all right, Chazz, we got we go to old school here. It's good to see you, man, great to see you. I don't get to see you at this time of the year. I came up just for you.

Cafe Americana Ryan, Now, hockey scores? Hurry up the meanlik? I want it now. That's how I that's all it works here, all right, Chazz, we got we go to old school here. It's good to see you, man, great to see you. I don't get to see you at this time of the year. I came up just for you.

I know.

I know.

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America's oldest ballpark is set to host a celebration a cent TH's in the making when the Giants take on the Cardinals and a special tribute to the.

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All Right, let's not waste any time. Jordan with the news. Turn on the news.

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Colin Anthony Richardson has only played in four games in his short NFL career after his rookie season was cut short dude injury.

Colin Anthony Richardson has only played in four games in his short NFL career after his rookie season was cut short dude injury.

Despite the lack of experience so far.

Despite the lack of experience so far.

Richardson made an interesting comment on how tough it is to play in the NFL.

Richardson made an interesting comment on how tough it is to play in the NFL.

Playing in the NFL, I feel like it's eased in college, real real because right in college you got like you got players. That's why they good. They know they're good, but they're not as confident. You know what I'm saying. They got to allow other players to do this for them to do that. But in the league, everybody an't trying to work this. In the league want saying some key job. Everybody's trying to ball out for sure. That just let me know I ain't gotta do too much. I got to do my job. Yeah, and he going to do his job.

Playing in the NFL, I feel like it's eased in college, real real because right in college you got like you got players. That's why they good. They know they're good, but they're not as confident. You know what I'm saying. They got to allow other players to do this for them to do that. But in the league, everybody an't trying to work this. In the league want saying some key job. Everybody's trying to ball out for sure. That just let me know I ain't gotta do too much. I got to do my job. Yeah, and he going to do his job.

It's interesting because in college you're playing with freshmen. These are like eighteen year olds. Anthony's the youngest player. So if you have confidence in yourself, you're playing with grown men and this is their job. I mean, even at Florida, which is a great football school, half those guys are not pros. Half those guys are freshmen, sophomores. They make mistakes. So what he's basically saying is I know I'm good. I know everybody else here is excellent. I don't have to rely on anybody. Everybody's a pro, does their job. It's an interesting way to look at it, but it tells you how much confidence he has, and it tells you a Florida, you know a lot of times you're trying to compensate for the play call and the teammate. In in the NFL, it's like you get cut this can. In college, you'd feel weird cutting a place, letting him go. You know that here it's just like bye bye.

It's interesting because in college you're playing with freshmen. These are like eighteen year olds. Anthony's the youngest player. So if you have confidence in yourself, you're playing with grown men and this is their job. I mean, even at Florida, which is a great football school, half those guys are not pros. Half those guys are freshmen, sophomores. They make mistakes. So what he's basically saying is I know I'm good. I know everybody else here is excellent. I don't have to rely on anybody. Everybody's a pro, does their job. It's an interesting way to look at it, but it tells you how much confidence he has, and it tells you a Florida, you know a lot of times you're trying to compensate for the play call and the teammate. In in the NFL, it's like you get cut this can. In college, you'd feel weird cutting a place, letting him go. You know that here it's just like bye bye.

But it's not too bad to have to rely on Shane Steike and Colin who had a lot of success in Philly as the OC with Jalen Hurts. Similar skills in terms of athleticism, can move the pocket. Richardson huge arm plus he's bulked up six ' four, two hundred and fifty five pounds, herculean as type figure, and you think about the weaponry they have around him. They bring in Ady Mitchell from Texas, super talented. They paid Michael Pittman junior, Josh down second year out of Carolina, dominant running back in Jonathan Allen.

But it's not too bad to have to rely on Shane Steike and Colin who had a lot of success in Philly as the OC with Jalen Hurts. Similar skills in terms of athleticism, can move the pocket. Richardson huge arm plus he's bulked up six ' four, two hundred and fifty five pounds, herculean as type figure, and you think about the weaponry they have around him. They bring in Ady Mitchell from Texas, super talented. They paid Michael Pittman junior, Josh down second year out of Carolina, dominant running back in Jonathan Allen.

I like Indianapolis a lot, and.

I like Indianapolis a lot, and.

I think if you think about why he'll be successful, he has so many different skills, but you can clearly tell there was a tremendous amount of confidence aunt Anthony Richardson, maybe even more so than he had in college, and that that's a great thing if you're a cold fan.

I think if you think about why he'll be successful, he has so many different skills, but you can clearly tell there was a tremendous amount of confidence aunt Anthony Richardson, maybe even more so than he had in college, and that that's a great thing if you're a cold fan.

Yep.

Yep.

Romo Duz has high expectations after being selected ninth overall and pair with Caleb Williams. Now Dunza spoke to the media yesterday made it clear he's coming for Pook and the coupa's rookie receiving record.

Romo Duz has high expectations after being selected ninth overall and pair with Caleb Williams. Now Dunza spoke to the media yesterday made it clear he's coming for Pook and the coupa's rookie receiving record.

I think that that's important for you know, every player to set those goals and strive for the highest of the high. And you know, it's unique in my situation because guy went to school with Poop and Nicolas, so you know, I was following him and got to see what he did. So absolutely I'm chasing that. I think he's around right around fifty and fifty one hundred right for the rookie season record and absolutely chasing that. I think Brandon Marshall has the same single season record here right of course, chasing chasing those records. And I think that's important because you know I said to that Washington, hopefully the Bears organization organization better than I found it.

I think that that's important for you know, every player to set those goals and strive for the highest of the high. And you know, it's unique in my situation because guy went to school with Poop and Nicolas, so you know, I was following him and got to see what he did. So absolutely I'm chasing that. I think he's around right around fifty and fifty one hundred right for the rookie season record and absolutely chasing that. I think Brandon Marshall has the same single season record here right of course, chasing chasing those records. And I think that's important because you know I said to that Washington, hopefully the Bears organization organization better than I found it.

Yeah, I mean it's really it's encouraging if you're a Bears fan, not only that you land Caleb Williams, but with your second pick, knowing you already have a good receiving core. They doubled down on offense. Historically, this team doesn't do that. They have to be talked into drafting offense and whiff on it a lot. So I think you're gonna have two A rookies and his maturity and you know, a done one. GM told me is about as clean a player as you can get. Maturity, work, ethic, injury history, productivity, whether or not he's a star or not, you know, I mean Dj Moore is the one. So how many looks do you get? But he said, you know they called him Bjeon Robinson when he went to Atlanta out of Texas. It's like, that's a clean player, like injuries, he could block, he doesn't fumble, he's a good teammate, he works hard. Rome is a clean player. He may not be as neighbors, may have more dynamic like jet fuel, but there's virtually no way he busts.

Yeah, I mean it's really it's encouraging if you're a Bears fan, not only that you land Caleb Williams, but with your second pick, knowing you already have a good receiving core. They doubled down on offense. Historically, this team doesn't do that. They have to be talked into drafting offense and whiff on it a lot. So I think you're gonna have two A rookies and his maturity and you know, a done one. GM told me is about as clean a player as you can get. Maturity, work, ethic, injury history, productivity, whether or not he's a star or not, you know, I mean Dj Moore is the one. So how many looks do you get? But he said, you know they called him Bjeon Robinson when he went to Atlanta out of Texas. It's like, that's a clean player, like injuries, he could block, he doesn't fumble, he's a good teammate, he works hard. Rome is a clean player. He may not be as neighbors, may have more dynamic like jet fuel, but there's virtually no way he busts.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Well, he had this similar expectations coming out of Bishop Gorman in Las Vegas decorator recruit goes to Washington, has his great career. I would argue that no quarterback coming out of college, at least in recent memory, has had a better opportunity to succeed than Kayleb Williams talking about DJ Moore, Keenan Allen, DeAndre Swift, Colcomet, they tried to fortify their offensive line. And then I'll just give you a couple of different people that I think can speak really well to Romo Doonesday.

Well, he had this similar expectations coming out of Bishop Gorman in Las Vegas decorator recruit goes to Washington, has his great career. I would argue that no quarterback coming out of college, at least in recent memory, has had a better opportunity to succeed than Kayleb Williams talking about DJ Moore, Keenan Allen, DeAndre Swift, Colcomet, they tried to fortify their offensive line. And then I'll just give you a couple of different people that I think can speak really well to Romo Doonesday.

Kaylen has told me repeatedly, the guy has no weaknesses.

Kaylen has told me repeatedly, the guy has no weaknesses.

Michael Pennix Junior has told me he's extremely precise, he's dominant, he's a dog. He put all that together, you consider the fact that he has a really good offense around him.

Michael Pennix Junior has told me he's extremely precise, he's dominant, he's a dog. He put all that together, you consider the fact that he has a really good offense around him.

I'm fifteen hundred yards calling that feels like a lot.

I'm fifteen hundred yards calling that feels like a lot.

Hoopa Nakoa did that without really Cooper cup So, I mean, how many targets as though, dude's are gonna have to probably.

Hoopa Nakoa did that without really Cooper cup So, I mean, how many targets as though, dude's are gonna have to probably.

Gonna have to get over well over one hundred and twenty five targets to get that number.

Gonna have to get over well over one hundred and twenty five targets to get that number.

Yeah, but yeah, you can do it. Yeah, I think he's gonna be a big hit.

Yeah, but yeah, you can do it. Yeah, I think he's gonna be a big hit.

Yeah.

Yeah.

We've talked about Aaron Rodgers earlier colin in the show, and his unexcused absence from mini camp well with Rogers out of town, his longtime friend in OC, Nathaniel Hackett is reportedly not calling plays for the team's offense during their two man drills. Quarterback quarterback coach past game coordinator Todd Downey was calling plays in his place.

We've talked about Aaron Rodgers earlier colin in the show, and his unexcused absence from mini camp well with Rogers out of town, his longtime friend in OC, Nathaniel Hackett is reportedly not calling plays for the team's offense during their two man drills. Quarterback quarterback coach past game coordinator Todd Downey was calling plays in his place.

What do you make of this?

What do you make of this?

It's not good?

It's not good?

Strange?

Strange?

Yeah, I mean I don't even need to say anything. That's not good. Sorry, Jet fans. I know you think we're picking on you. Do you think that's good? Do you really literally want your coordinator? We don't trust them? With two minutes left?

Yeah, I mean I don't even need to say anything. That's not good. Sorry, Jet fans. I know you think we're picking on you. Do you think that's good? Do you really literally want your coordinator? We don't trust them? With two minutes left?

I gotta be honest. I was pretty high on Hackett going to Denver.

I gotta be honest. I was pretty high on Hackett going to Denver.

I was wrong.

I was wrong.

He was very well liked in Green Bay. Clearly he has a relationship with Aaron Rodgers. But Todd Downing, I mean I like the roster a lot, but the coaching stat like Robert solid great coordinator? Is he a great head coach?

He was very well liked in Green Bay. Clearly he has a relationship with Aaron Rodgers. But Todd Downing, I mean I like the roster a lot, but the coaching stat like Robert solid great coordinator? Is he a great head coach?

Hackett?

Hackett?

You know, no more calling two minutes.

You know, no more calling two minutes.

This is not a good This is the only June. You're kind of having some issues.

This is not a good This is the only June. You're kind of having some issues.

Not a great thing.

Not a great thing.

Okay, Finally calling the US Men's national team. Oh yeah, how about this go by politic? Who look Goatso there. The US men's national team had a tough friendly against Brazil last night. Coming off a brutal five to one performance a loss against Columbia, the US held strong in a one to one draw against Brazil. Ballistic score from a direct free kick you see it here. Goalkeeper Matt Turner kept the Americans in it. Yeah, with eleven saves, by the way the most and Tim Howard when he had fourteen and the twenty four team.

Okay, Finally calling the US Men's national team. Oh yeah, how about this go by politic? Who look Goatso there. The US men's national team had a tough friendly against Brazil last night. Coming off a brutal five to one performance a loss against Columbia, the US held strong in a one to one draw against Brazil. Ballistic score from a direct free kick you see it here. Goalkeeper Matt Turner kept the Americans in it. Yeah, with eleven saves, by the way the most and Tim Howard when he had fourteen and the twenty four team.

Oh, I thought we were going to fire Berhalter.

Oh, I thought we were going to fire Berhalter.

Well, it's like, what's the expectation in the kopa for you?

Well, it's like, what's the expectation in the kopa for you?

Well? Did you hear the Brazilian coach after he said I don't know what all the complaining is, He goes, I'm watching this American team. All their best players are overseas playing for great teams and doing well. He's like, I see a bunch of really good players. I'll say it again, ball skills. Best group of players we've ever had in the country. It's the best in terms of just the ability to score, to make plays. This is the best playmaking group we've ever had. I mean shots on goal. This is a legitimate team that could finish, could win three matches in the World Cup. I've never felt as we could. I usually feel the only way for the United States men's national team to flourish is superior goalie play like superior. If we were good, not special, we could win three four matches.

Well? Did you hear the Brazilian coach after he said I don't know what all the complaining is, He goes, I'm watching this American team. All their best players are overseas playing for great teams and doing well. He's like, I see a bunch of really good players. I'll say it again, ball skills. Best group of players we've ever had in the country. It's the best in terms of just the ability to score, to make plays. This is the best playmaking group we've ever had. I mean shots on goal. This is a legitimate team that could finish, could win three matches in the World Cup. I've never felt as we could. I usually feel the only way for the United States men's national team to flourish is superior goalie play like superior. If we were good, not special, we could win three four matches.

I think finals are realistic.

I think finals are realistic.

By the way, Colin Copa America begins July twenty and FS one.

By the way, Colin Copa America begins July twenty and FS one.

You got the Euros, you get it, double dip a little soccer.

You got the Euros, you get it, double dip a little soccer.

The world's game is coming fine.

The world's game is coming fine.

I mean a week ago, every Ethan, Liam, Holden and Beckett wanted to.

I mean a week ago, every Ethan, Liam, Holden and Beckett wanted to.

Fire birth think they're gonna flame.

Fire birth think they're gonna flame.

There, and then they go toe to toe with a world power and had an opportunity after intermission to win. Fire up and soccer fans in this country they're fickle, fickle, also a little bit unrealistic, a little unrealist.

There, and then they go toe to toe with a world power and had an opportunity after intermission to win. Fire up and soccer fans in this country they're fickle, fickle, also a little bit unrealistic, a little unrealist.

Isn't exactly a global power. We're trying to get there, We're trying to elevate.

Isn't exactly a global power. We're trying to get there, We're trying to elevate.

We're not We're not there yet.

We're not We're not there yet.

No, we're not. Uh Jordan with the news, Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by.

No, we're not. Uh Jordan with the news, Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by.

The herd Live.

The herd Live.

I mean a week ago, cats and dogs living together. Burholter you got to get him out of here. And then we go toe to toe foot the foot with Brazil. Look excellent and and I think these friendly matches they don't mean anything. If you get down, things can unravel. You gotta be careful about big judging here. This is a really talented group, but American soccer fans, it's always the coach's fault. It's never a lack of striking ability, it's never a lack of depth. It's always the coach's fault. And it's like, I'm exhausted by it.

I mean a week ago, cats and dogs living together. Burholter you got to get him out of here. And then we go toe to toe foot the foot with Brazil. Look excellent and and I think these friendly matches they don't mean anything. If you get down, things can unravel. You gotta be careful about big judging here. This is a really talented group, but American soccer fans, it's always the coach's fault. It's never a lack of striking ability, it's never a lack of depth. It's always the coach's fault. And it's like, I'm exhausted by it.

This isn't exactly a Bruce Arena situation. This team's going to succeed in the COPA.

This isn't exactly a Bruce Arena situation. This team's going to succeed in the COPA.

I think I think they will. I can't wait for it. All right, Jordan, great job today. I want to thank Joe Klatt, Rachel Nichols, Dan Hurley for stopping by Live in La. It's the herd.

I think I think they will. I can't wait for it. All right, Jordan, great job today. I want to thank Joe Klatt, Rachel Nichols, Dan Hurley for stopping by Live in La. It's the herd.