Thanks for listening to the Herd Podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports Radio in noon to three eastern nine am to noon Pacific. Find your local station for The Herd at Fox Sports Radio dot com, or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. Thanks for listening to the Herd Podcast earlier. Fans, you know, the games mean more, the intensity is more, and a lot of fans are talking about Kansas City's getting the home calls. Jmack is all over this there getting the better calls. But I tended to think years ago, when New England was dominating, you'd say to yourself, well, they don't turn it over and they don't get called for a lot of holding. I remember there was a time that New England never fumbled. Like everybody else in the NFL fumbled at a certain rate, New England never fumbled. Well, they've got to be using stickhem like well coached teams don't get penalized heavily. More mature. Older. As Josh Allen's gotten older, he's a more mature quarterback. So I mean you start looking at this Buffalo team, Josh Allen veteran, Deon Dawkins, veteran Milano veteran, A lot of their best players now. Dawson Knox like, you just get to certain players, you look around and you're like, oh, they're those defensive linemen have been around a while. And Matt Hasselbeck talks about listen, is Hasslebeck leaning into some of these heads that make it look like it's roughing. I get fooled by him. I was fooled. I think they're roughing. Here's Hasslebeck earlier.

Thanks for listening to the Herd Podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports Radio in noon to three eastern nine am to noon Pacific. Find your local station for The Herd at Fox Sports Radio dot com, or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. Thanks for listening to the Herd Podcast earlier. Fans, you know, the games mean more, the intensity is more, and a lot of fans are talking about Kansas City's getting the home calls. Jmack is all over this there getting the better calls. But I tended to think years ago, when New England was dominating, you'd say to yourself, well, they don't turn it over and they don't get called for a lot of holding. I remember there was a time that New England never fumbled. Like everybody else in the NFL fumbled at a certain rate, New England never fumbled. Well, they've got to be using stickhem like well coached teams don't get penalized heavily. More mature. Older. As Josh Allen's gotten older, he's a more mature quarterback. So I mean you start looking at this Buffalo team, Josh Allen veteran, Deon Dawkins, veteran Milano veteran, A lot of their best players now. Dawson Knox like, you just get to certain players, you look around and you're like, oh, they're those defensive linemen have been around a while. And Matt Hasselbeck talks about listen, is Hasslebeck leaning into some of these heads that make it look like it's roughing. I get fooled by him. I was fooled. I think they're roughing. Here's Hasslebeck earlier.

I will never criticize officials. It's bang bang, you're trying to do the best you can. Happens in real time. I think our officials do a really good job. Actually, but we're using replay assists for all this other stuff, and there's only one game going on during the playoffs. It's not a one o'clock game on a Sunday during the regular season where there's so much to watch.

I will never criticize officials. It's bang bang, you're trying to do the best you can. Happens in real time. I think our officials do a really good job. Actually, but we're using replay assists for all this other stuff, and there's only one game going on during the playoffs. It's not a one o'clock game on a Sunday during the regular season where there's so much to watch.

You gotta get this right.

You gotta get this right.

We have slow motion, we have high deaf, we have replay assists. That's where I'm saying, like, hey, now, listen. I also would say watching the Baltimore versus Buffalo game the next night, you can't tell me that those officials didn't just let those guys play. It was a completely different game how it was officiated.

We have slow motion, we have high deaf, we have replay assists. That's where I'm saying, like, hey, now, listen. I also would say watching the Baltimore versus Buffalo game the next night, you can't tell me that those officials didn't just let those guys play. It was a completely different game how it was officiated.

Did the consistency was not there?

Did the consistency was not there?

I saw an official get knocked over to the ground after a late hit on a fight.

I saw an official get knocked over to the ground after a late hit on a fight.

Nothing happened, like they weren't even calling PI.

Nothing happened, like they weren't even calling PI.

So like to think that, like there wasn't some sort of conversation like, hey, we maybe over did it.

So like to think that, like there wasn't some sort of conversation like, hey, we maybe over did it.

By the way, let's go to Urban Meyer because there's a Buckeye officiating question. I have so Ohio State seven hundred and twenty eight straight plays that Ohio State's defense has been on the field, and it's a very good defense. And there hasn't been a holding call on any offensive line over those seven hundred and twenty eight games. So you got Sawyer, you got NFL bodies. So you tell me, is that something Ryan Days saying to the officials, Guys, I got first round defensive line and you're telling me seven hundred and twenty eight plays, nobody's held us once. What do you do as a coach?

By the way, let's go to Urban Meyer because there's a Buckeye officiating question. I have so Ohio State seven hundred and twenty eight straight plays that Ohio State's defense has been on the field, and it's a very good defense. And there hasn't been a holding call on any offensive line over those seven hundred and twenty eight games. So you got Sawyer, you got NFL bodies. So you tell me, is that something Ryan Days saying to the officials, Guys, I got first round defensive line and you're telling me seven hundred and twenty eight plays, nobody's held us once. What do you do as a coach?

Oh, you certainly you call it into the head of the officials. And then the other thing is you just worked the game constantly, and I've done that before, and you know, to act like there's a conspiracy SERI against a have state. That's that's silly to think that. But the numbers are pretty When I saw that today, I was like, man, that does not make sense. But you watch him, he'll constantly they worked the officials throughout the course of the game. And uh, and that's what I don't know if I ever heard that stat before.

Oh, you certainly you call it into the head of the officials. And then the other thing is you just worked the game constantly, and I've done that before, and you know, to act like there's a conspiracy SERI against a have state. That's that's silly to think that. But the numbers are pretty When I saw that today, I was like, man, that does not make sense. But you watch him, he'll constantly they worked the officials throughout the course of the game. And uh, and that's what I don't know if I ever heard that stat before.

What's the biggest advantage the Buckeyes have? Then I coach.

What's the biggest advantage the Buckeyes have? Then I coach.

Their defense? Ohigh, stage defense is incredible. I was talking earlier today on Big ten Network about Ryan Day and Chip Kelly to game man, to manage the game and to call the game. When you know your defense, you score three point three touchdowns, you're probably gonna win. And uh, I think your high steep defense is elite. I think a Notre Dame offense. You know, they're a decent running team. Their quarterback has been their number one ball carry the last three games in the playoffs. They just really struggle throwing the ball. That I used to tell our offenses Colin, when we had a defense like that, get us two first downs every time you touch the ball will win this game. That means you're always making them play the long field, and it's great to manage a game when you have a defense like this.

Their defense? Ohigh, stage defense is incredible. I was talking earlier today on Big ten Network about Ryan Day and Chip Kelly to game man, to manage the game and to call the game. When you know your defense, you score three point three touchdowns, you're probably gonna win. And uh, I think your high steep defense is elite. I think a Notre Dame offense. You know, they're a decent running team. Their quarterback has been their number one ball carry the last three games in the playoffs. They just really struggle throwing the ball. That I used to tell our offenses Colin, when we had a defense like that, get us two first downs every time you touch the ball will win this game. That means you're always making them play the long field, and it's great to manage a game when you have a defense like this.

What do you make of Riley Leonard as a prospect? I like him. I've been saying this all year. He's the most underrated quarterback in college football. Everybody says, I'm out of my gord. I don't love his throwing motion. But he's big, tall, athletic, He's kind of relentless, he's toughee, take shots, he's a leader. What do you make of him as a can he play on Sundays? What do you make of him?

What do you make of Riley Leonard as a prospect? I like him. I've been saying this all year. He's the most underrated quarterback in college football. Everybody says, I'm out of my gord. I don't love his throwing motion. But he's big, tall, athletic, He's kind of relentless, he's toughee, take shots, he's a leader. What do you make of him as a can he play on Sundays? What do you make of him?

Yeah? I don't know about that. I love Riley Leonard. I love it. You know, there's two ways I used to evaluate a quarterback. Number One, do they elevate those around him? Check? Yes? Do they get first downs? And he'll get him any way possible running. You saw that the time he launched himself for the first down in the final drive against Georgia. However, I also have had some great quarterbacks struggle in the NFL because it is a whole different animal. Now you've got tighter I don't know if he can hit those tight windows like you have to hit in the NFL because you're facing you know, this will be the best defense that Riley Leonards played. Imagine that every Sunday. So I'm skeptical that he'll be a starter. I think he'll make the NFL because he's such a tough kid and a winner, But to be a star in the NFL, I am skeptical about that.

Yeah? I don't know about that. I love Riley Leonard. I love it. You know, there's two ways I used to evaluate a quarterback. Number One, do they elevate those around him? Check? Yes? Do they get first downs? And he'll get him any way possible running. You saw that the time he launched himself for the first down in the final drive against Georgia. However, I also have had some great quarterbacks struggle in the NFL because it is a whole different animal. Now you've got tighter I don't know if he can hit those tight windows like you have to hit in the NFL because you're facing you know, this will be the best defense that Riley Leonards played. Imagine that every Sunday. So I'm skeptical that he'll be a starter. I think he'll make the NFL because he's such a tough kid and a winner, But to be a star in the NFL, I am skeptical about that.

Ohio State has been much more aggressive since the Michigan loss. Is that Ryan Day looking himself in the mirror? Is that Chip Kelly talking to him? This offense? They've gotten very aggressive. What's happened inside the room that I don't see the film room, sitting down going to lunch with Ryan Day and Chip Kelly? What turned it for Ryan?

Ohio State has been much more aggressive since the Michigan loss. Is that Ryan Day looking himself in the mirror? Is that Chip Kelly talking to him? This offense? They've gotten very aggressive. What's happened inside the room that I don't see the film room, sitting down going to lunch with Ryan Day and Chip Kelly? What turned it for Ryan?

Well, there are two criticisms that were very justifiable against that Wolverine and the robbery game and number one which were the Wolverine strengths they've got. They've gotten very creative. You can see in the pre in the scripts. You know they usually script about ten or fifteen players to start the game. Our boy, Jeremiah Smip is in that script. He's getting the ball early and often. His best players are getting the ball early and often, and they're not playing between the tackles, they're playing outside the tackles and they're throwing the ball, which is their strength. I think they're the strongest. You know, they're the best perimeter team in the country with their skill sets. So that's that's what they've been doing. And then also once they cross the fifty yard line with this defense, they have you get real aggressive because even if you turn it over or if you have to punt, that's a win because that offense is starting your opponent opponents in offense is starting deep in their own territory.

Well, there are two criticisms that were very justifiable against that Wolverine and the robbery game and number one which were the Wolverine strengths they've got. They've gotten very creative. You can see in the pre in the scripts. You know they usually script about ten or fifteen players to start the game. Our boy, Jeremiah Smip is in that script. He's getting the ball early and often. His best players are getting the ball early and often, and they're not playing between the tackles, they're playing outside the tackles and they're throwing the ball, which is their strength. I think they're the strongest. You know, they're the best perimeter team in the country with their skill sets. So that's that's what they've been doing. And then also once they cross the fifty yard line with this defense, they have you get real aggressive because even if you turn it over or if you have to punt, that's a win because that offense is starting your opponent opponents in offense is starting deep in their own territory.

If you were Notre Dame, you can't match up with Ohio State offensively. If your Notre Dame. They have very good corners. I mean, last couple of years they got NFL players. Would you roll the dice on Smith on the outside and say, let's and we got to load the box up. We got to force them to beat us over the top. They're not going to grind us and keep our offense off the field. Like, how do you how would you defend Ohio State's offense when you have a perimeter player that that might as well be an NFL player playing on Saturdays.

If you were Notre Dame, you can't match up with Ohio State offensively. If your Notre Dame. They have very good corners. I mean, last couple of years they got NFL players. Would you roll the dice on Smith on the outside and say, let's and we got to load the box up. We got to force them to beat us over the top. They're not going to grind us and keep our offense off the field. Like, how do you how would you defend Ohio State's offense when you have a perimeter player that that might as well be an NFL player playing on Saturdays.

Yeah, that's a great question. College I would not al Golden is the front of min. He's an excellent pach. They play the most man coverage in America, but they have not faced anything close to this. They've not faced a good quarter a great quarterback. You know, Georgia was a shell of themselves, and Penn State the receivers just aren't you know, aren't typical Penn State receivers, so they've not faced anything like this. I would change the I mean, this is pretty drastic. You've had over a week to prepare for this game. I would come out with the Wolverine defense. That means play too high, force them and challenge them to run the ball and rally up and keep the ball in front of you. I would not Now, I know they have very good players on defense, but you played man coverage against this Ohio State team, a consistent dose of it. I'm not sure this game they're going to score a lot of points early in the first half. The other way, I think you keep the ball in front of you. It's a little bit against what Notre Dame has done in the past this year, but they've not seen anything like this as far as the offensive skill. So no, I would not play. I would not sit man coverage against the shas STI team.

Yeah, that's a great question. College I would not al Golden is the front of min. He's an excellent pach. They play the most man coverage in America, but they have not faced anything close to this. They've not faced a good quarter a great quarterback. You know, Georgia was a shell of themselves, and Penn State the receivers just aren't you know, aren't typical Penn State receivers, so they've not faced anything like this. I would change the I mean, this is pretty drastic. You've had over a week to prepare for this game. I would come out with the Wolverine defense. That means play too high, force them and challenge them to run the ball and rally up and keep the ball in front of you. I would not Now, I know they have very good players on defense, but you played man coverage against this Ohio State team, a consistent dose of it. I'm not sure this game they're going to score a lot of points early in the first half. The other way, I think you keep the ball in front of you. It's a little bit against what Notre Dame has done in the past this year, but they've not seen anything like this as far as the offensive skill. So no, I would not play. I would not sit man coverage against the shas STI team.

By the way, you were a big underdog very very infrequently. In fact, I can't remember ever. When you go into a game and it's a big game and you are a prohibitive favorite, how does that not get in your head? Urban I mean, if you have an early turnover and just say, guys, come on, we're getting a little real we're losing ourselves here. When you go in as a big favorite and a big game, does it somewhat psychologically change if things go a little sideways early?

By the way, you were a big underdog very very infrequently. In fact, I can't remember ever. When you go into a game and it's a big game and you are a prohibitive favorite, how does that not get in your head? Urban I mean, if you have an early turnover and just say, guys, come on, we're getting a little real we're losing ourselves here. When you go in as a big favorite and a big game, does it somewhat psychologically change if things go a little sideways early?

Well, we were a big underdog, ironically against Ohio State when I was a Florida and the O six national championship. I didn't believe it as a game got closer, but we were over a touchdown underdog. And does it get in your head? Yeah, it pisses you off if you're the opponent, and I use that. I mean, my gosh, our players got tired of hearing it and reading about it. But I've also been a big favorite, and that you know, I much rather be the favorite because that means usually got the better team, better players. So let's if you're the underdog, I mean, if I'm Marcus Freeman, I'm beating that up because there's nothing quite like coaching a pissed off football team. And if he can get Notre Dame to play like that, you know this could be a street fight.

Well, we were a big underdog, ironically against Ohio State when I was a Florida and the O six national championship. I didn't believe it as a game got closer, but we were over a touchdown underdog. And does it get in your head? Yeah, it pisses you off if you're the opponent, and I use that. I mean, my gosh, our players got tired of hearing it and reading about it. But I've also been a big favorite, and that you know, I much rather be the favorite because that means usually got the better team, better players. So let's if you're the underdog, I mean, if I'm Marcus Freeman, I'm beating that up because there's nothing quite like coaching a pissed off football team. And if he can get Notre Dame to play like that, you know this could be a street fight.

Yeah. How many scripted plays? If you're Marcus Freeman and you think to yourself, I got a little better quarterback, I got a playmaker. I want to let him be an athlete. You know, Andy Rito says that I want to coach you. I don't want to coach the athlete out of you. So I'm Marcus Freeman. I'm coming to this thing. I'm like, listen, we don't have as good as stock as they do. We don't have as good as players. So I got to let Riley make some stuff happen. I got to let my playmakers, and I don't have a ton of them. How many do you script? If you're Marcus, do you say to yourself, I'm going to script you about six. But kid, some of this stuff's gonna have to be you. I mean, what do you do if you're Notre Dame in Freeman knowing we don't on paper, I may see a score in a touchdown? How do you generate? Is it tricks? Special teams? By the way, coach do you come in and say, we got some explosives on special teams. That's an advantage to me. Marcus Freeman may have like, I know, I got to take risks and I'm comfortable if they fail.

Yeah. How many scripted plays? If you're Marcus Freeman and you think to yourself, I got a little better quarterback, I got a playmaker. I want to let him be an athlete. You know, Andy Rito says that I want to coach you. I don't want to coach the athlete out of you. So I'm Marcus Freeman. I'm coming to this thing. I'm like, listen, we don't have as good as stock as they do. We don't have as good as players. So I got to let Riley make some stuff happen. I got to let my playmakers, and I don't have a ton of them. How many do you script? If you're Marcus, do you say to yourself, I'm going to script you about six. But kid, some of this stuff's gonna have to be you. I mean, what do you do if you're Notre Dame in Freeman knowing we don't on paper, I may see a score in a touchdown? How do you generate? Is it tricks? Special teams? By the way, coach do you come in and say, we got some explosives on special teams. That's an advantage to me. Marcus Freeman may have like, I know, I got to take risks and I'm comfortable if they fail.

When you look at what they did against Georgia, there was a it was a seven to seven game and there was a fourteenth point flip within fifty four seconds. What happened the universe Georgia made a mistake and they tried in that two minute drill, tried to force you know, when they shouldn't have. They had a backup quarterback and they weren't. You know, they haven't played Grady all year on offense. And what happens They turn it over. Notre Dame scores on the short field and then they hit the kickoff return for a touchdown. So special teams. Ohio State is a very conservative special teams. They don't returner kicks, they rarely go after the punts. So I would if i'm and I know Marcus Freeman, well he's thinking this is an advantage. So what that's one of the few advantages that they have. The other thing is, yes, you have to somehow get an extended drive. How's that a fake punt like they did against Georgia. So I would expect, and I'm glad you brought that up. I think the viewer can expect at some point he's I bet he's got four momentum shifts on his game plan, and a momentum shift is a fake punt or some type of reverse something to get extend a player get a big hit.

When you look at what they did against Georgia, there was a it was a seven to seven game and there was a fourteenth point flip within fifty four seconds. What happened the universe Georgia made a mistake and they tried in that two minute drill, tried to force you know, when they shouldn't have. They had a backup quarterback and they weren't. You know, they haven't played Grady all year on offense. And what happens They turn it over. Notre Dame scores on the short field and then they hit the kickoff return for a touchdown. So special teams. Ohio State is a very conservative special teams. They don't returner kicks, they rarely go after the punts. So I would if i'm and I know Marcus Freeman, well he's thinking this is an advantage. So what that's one of the few advantages that they have. The other thing is, yes, you have to somehow get an extended drive. How's that a fake punt like they did against Georgia. So I would expect, and I'm glad you brought that up. I think the viewer can expect at some point he's I bet he's got four momentum shifts on his game plan, and a momentum shift is a fake punt or some type of reverse something to get extend a player get a big hit.

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Do you get nervous for games you're not coaching in when it involves a team you've coached, like Ohio State?

Do you get nervous for games you're not coaching in when it involves a team you've coached, like Ohio State?

Not at all. I just I'm very close obviously with Ryan Day and their staff, but I'm also close with Marcus Freeman, and I spent several years at Notre Dame and I got so much respect for that school. So I'm really happy these two teams are playing it. But do I get nervous. No, I'm talking to Colin Coward a couple hours for the game. He couldn't.

Not at all. I just I'm very close obviously with Ryan Day and their staff, but I'm also close with Marcus Freeman, and I spent several years at Notre Dame and I got so much respect for that school. So I'm really happy these two teams are playing it. But do I get nervous. No, I'm talking to Colin Coward a couple hours for the game. He couldn't.

I sometimes I get nervous for these young players. You know, maybe it's my age, but I'm like yesterday with Josh Allen and Lamar. I felt so terrible when Lamar threw a pick. I'm like, oh, I love this kid. This is the Ohio State Notre Dame that is big time college football. I know there's been a lot of nil and a lot of transfer port on, a lot of stuff that drives us crazy. By the way, if you talk to Belichick, what does he make in the first couple of weeks on the job.

I sometimes I get nervous for these young players. You know, maybe it's my age, but I'm like yesterday with Josh Allen and Lamar. I felt so terrible when Lamar threw a pick. I'm like, oh, I love this kid. This is the Ohio State Notre Dame that is big time college football. I know there's been a lot of nil and a lot of transfer port on, a lot of stuff that drives us crazy. By the way, if you talk to Belichick, what does he make in the first couple of weeks on the job.

I have not. I texted him. He did not hit me back. They might have a different number now. But I saw some pictures of him and his shirt and tie and sport coat, you know, on the road recruiting, and I can't wait to talk to him. At some point I say, my gosh, man, do you really enjoy that? And going to the kids home and all that. So he's probably great at it, because he's great at everything he does, and he's going to death well. So, I mean, that's going to be a great storyline to watch what happens with coach.

I have not. I texted him. He did not hit me back. They might have a different number now. But I saw some pictures of him and his shirt and tie and sport coat, you know, on the road recruiting, and I can't wait to talk to him. At some point I say, my gosh, man, do you really enjoy that? And going to the kids home and all that. So he's probably great at it, because he's great at everything he does, and he's going to death well. So, I mean, that's going to be a great storyline to watch what happens with coach.

Have fun tonight, coach Ohio State Notre Dame. I like the Buckeys, but I think Marcus will have a trick or two up his sleeve and make it close and good talking to you again. I appreciate it always calling. Thank you. Yeah, favorites win this game, the favorites in college football because remember in the NFL you got salary caps, and there's certain mechanisms that keep sort of rosters close. That's not necessarily the same. And then when you put jet fuel, Ohio State already out recruits Notre Dame. They have historically, Ohio State's the best northern program in recruiting in the country. They recruit like Georgia and Alabama. They've always out recruited Michigan on average, out recruited Penn State. Ohio State's and SEC team basically just up north. But when you add jet fuel with the nil and you can go steal Caleb down from Bama, and you can go grab the best players elsewhere. I mean, you watched when you watched the Ohio State play Tennessee, and Tennessee looked intimidated. And when you watch them play Oregon, Oregon's like oooh, It's like getting in the ring with Tyson when he was like twenty two. It's like, I don't know if I'm ruady for this. Ohio State just has a volume of athleticism. I think that, and I think it's fascinating how bad they were. I was watching that Michigan Ohio State replay. I was watching highlights of that over the weekend. How they lost that game, I'll never know. J Mack with a news.

Have fun tonight, coach Ohio State Notre Dame. I like the Buckeys, but I think Marcus will have a trick or two up his sleeve and make it close and good talking to you again. I appreciate it always calling. Thank you. Yeah, favorites win this game, the favorites in college football because remember in the NFL you got salary caps, and there's certain mechanisms that keep sort of rosters close. That's not necessarily the same. And then when you put jet fuel, Ohio State already out recruits Notre Dame. They have historically, Ohio State's the best northern program in recruiting in the country. They recruit like Georgia and Alabama. They've always out recruited Michigan on average, out recruited Penn State. Ohio State's and SEC team basically just up north. But when you add jet fuel with the nil and you can go steal Caleb down from Bama, and you can go grab the best players elsewhere. I mean, you watched when you watched the Ohio State play Tennessee, and Tennessee looked intimidated. And when you watch them play Oregon, Oregon's like oooh, It's like getting in the ring with Tyson when he was like twenty two. It's like, I don't know if I'm ruady for this. Ohio State just has a volume of athleticism. I think that, and I think it's fascinating how bad they were. I was watching that Michigan Ohio State replay. I was watching highlights of that over the weekend. How they lost that game, I'll never know. J Mack with a news.

No, no turn on the news. This is the herd Line news.

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All right.

All right.

We spent a lot of time talking about the great Saquon Barkley in Philly's win, but we haven't spoke much about Jalen hurts knee injury. Columnist looked pretty damn ghastly. I thought he was done for the game, the way it bends back and you could just see the grimace on his face. He took a pretty bad safety after that where he could not even he didn't even try to run away from anybody. He came back with a knee brace. Hurts is not really giving any clarity on the injury. Here he is after the game.

We spent a lot of time talking about the great Saquon Barkley in Philly's win, but we haven't spoke much about Jalen hurts knee injury. Columnist looked pretty damn ghastly. I thought he was done for the game, the way it bends back and you could just see the grimace on his face. He took a pretty bad safety after that where he could not even he didn't even try to run away from anybody. He came back with a knee brace. Hurts is not really giving any clarity on the injury. Here he is after the game.

How do you feel physically?

How do you feel physically?

How you went to medical? Tampa has come out of the gap.

How you went to medical? Tampa has come out of the gap.

It's a tough game, a challenge, a game.

It's a tough game, a challenge, a game.

I was able to finish the game and see.

I was able to finish the game and see.

How it would goes.

How it would goes.

Yeah, And there's a clip of him limping down the tunnel after the game. Saw that, and I think that's probably why there was some early money on Washington, just as a hedge in case, look it hurts here.

Yeah, And there's a clip of him limping down the tunnel after the game. Saw that, and I think that's probably why there was some early money on Washington, just as a hedge in case, look it hurts here.

That's not a guy who could play.

That's not a guy who could play.

I mean, come on now, it was freezing and he got dinged up, and you know it'll probably shoot him up with some stuff and he'll be fine. But any concern here if this had become any Pickett.

I mean, come on now, it was freezing and he got dinged up, and you know it'll probably shoot him up with some stuff and he'll be fine. But any concern here if this had become any Pickett.

Game, No, absolutely, I think or McKee ta First of all, Washington, there is a you know, it's really funny. I remember talking to Bill Romanowski about this. The legendary linebacker is that there are playoff games and then there's a conference championship game and it's like, oh this this nerves and then there's a super Bowl where a lot of players in their first Super Bowl don't remember the first couple series, like it's just a blur. Brady could get tight. But conference championships aren't that because you know, you have a home and a road team. But conference championships can feel different. And you've seen I just think Washington. This Philadelphia roster has so many guys that have played in big games and they're at home and they're not playing well and they're controlling the Rams and the Packers and not playing And then I get to a point where they're not playing well because this is what Philadelphia is. They're not brilliantly coached. You don't get a game like Buffalo where you're like, man, they are just no penalties, no turnovers, absolute game plan. I think Philadelphia, you gotta be honest, They're gonna let people have a chance. The fact the Rams complete a bullet you take Jalen Carter out of that game. Rams could have won that football game and they there's no short week. Stafford's a bad outdoor, cold weather quarterback Kyern Williams fumbles. I mean that game was there for Philadelphia to blow them out and they could.

Game, No, absolutely, I think or McKee ta First of all, Washington, there is a you know, it's really funny. I remember talking to Bill Romanowski about this. The legendary linebacker is that there are playoff games and then there's a conference championship game and it's like, oh this this nerves and then there's a super Bowl where a lot of players in their first Super Bowl don't remember the first couple series, like it's just a blur. Brady could get tight. But conference championships aren't that because you know, you have a home and a road team. But conference championships can feel different. And you've seen I just think Washington. This Philadelphia roster has so many guys that have played in big games and they're at home and they're not playing well and they're controlling the Rams and the Packers and not playing And then I get to a point where they're not playing well because this is what Philadelphia is. They're not brilliantly coached. You don't get a game like Buffalo where you're like, man, they are just no penalties, no turnovers, absolute game plan. I think Philadelphia, you gotta be honest, They're gonna let people have a chance. The fact the Rams complete a bullet you take Jalen Carter out of that game. Rams could have won that football game and they there's no short week. Stafford's a bad outdoor, cold weather quarterback Kyern Williams fumbles. I mean that game was there for Philadelphia to blow them out and they could.

Yeah, it's weird.

Yeah, it's weird.

Kelly Moore, I didn't think was exceptionally great calling plays. That being said, I thought Hurts did a good job with the line changing the play. Hey, they're playing a light box. We're gonna just hand it to Safequay and he think I had two hundred your herds.

Kelly Moore, I didn't think was exceptionally great calling plays. That being said, I thought Hurts did a good job with the line changing the play. Hey, they're playing a light box. We're gonna just hand it to Safequay and he think I had two hundred your herds.

On the ground.

On the ground.

Again, the Washington defense was not great against the Lions, Like they moved up and down the field. Goff just kept screwing it up. I don't see Hurts making those same mistakes. And if you notice Eagles are playing it safe in the red zone. I think they were zero for two in the red.

Again, the Washington defense was not great against the Lions, Like they moved up and down the field. Goff just kept screwing it up. I don't see Hurts making those same mistakes. And if you notice Eagles are playing it safe in the red zone. I think they were zero for two in the red.

Zone, and it was like, oh, we'll just kick the OL goals. We don't want to turn over. They're playing it a little cautious.

Zone, and it was like, oh, we'll just kick the OL goals. We don't want to turn over. They're playing it a little cautious.

I wonder if the Daniel's fourth downstyle well, which he's dynamic.

I wonder if the Daniel's fourth downstyle well, which he's dynamic.

But here here's the thing changes it. When you've got the better team, there's no reason to take big risks. I was thinking about this. I was thinking about this. So let's say Mark Andrews catches that ball and Buffalo doesn't score, and you go to overtime, who did you like?

But here here's the thing changes it. When you've got the better team, there's no reason to take big risks. I was thinking about this. I was thinking about this. So let's say Mark Andrews catches that ball and Buffalo doesn't score, and you go to overtime, who did you like?

The Ravens would have had the momentum at that.

The Ravens would have had the momentum at that.

There's no question. So it's really it was really interesting because I was thinking if they went two, I thought, man, if I'm Buffalo, I got a minute thirty three left, I am aggressive as hell. I don't want this puppy. I know it's at home. But the total momentum was Baltimore. So it's interesting when you get into this two point conversion stuff. To your point, with Philadelphia, they know they've got better players than Washington. There's no reason for them to take big swing, take the points, take the field goal. I do think you coach differently if you're Ryan Day tonight and all of a sudden, Ryan Day grabs himself for a thirteen to three lead, I could see him saying, guy, there's no reason to throw the ball over the middle in a pass rush. Let's shut it down and run the ball. I do.

There's no question. So it's really it was really interesting because I was thinking if they went two, I thought, man, if I'm Buffalo, I got a minute thirty three left, I am aggressive as hell. I don't want this puppy. I know it's at home. But the total momentum was Baltimore. So it's interesting when you get into this two point conversion stuff. To your point, with Philadelphia, they know they've got better players than Washington. There's no reason for them to take big swing, take the points, take the field goal. I do think you coach differently if you're Ryan Day tonight and all of a sudden, Ryan Day grabs himself for a thirteen to three lead, I could see him saying, guy, there's no reason to throw the ball over the middle in a pass rush. Let's shut it down and run the ball. I do.

The cool thing about the NFL now is you can go on YouTube and watch the other Eagles Washington games.

The cool thing about the NFL now is you can go on YouTube and watch the other Eagles Washington games.

They condense it, show you all that meaningful place.

They condense it, show you all that meaningful place.

But the Eagles have who I think is maybe the best linebacker in the league this year, Zach Bond fifty three. He's everywhere everywhere. I think you just have him spy JAD and Daniels right, you have to. He's one of the few that could keep up with him. And I think the Eagles probably have this game right. But betting against Jayden Daniels has been well fools.

But the Eagles have who I think is maybe the best linebacker in the league this year, Zach Bond fifty three. He's everywhere everywhere. I think you just have him spy JAD and Daniels right, you have to. He's one of the few that could keep up with him. And I think the Eagles probably have this game right. But betting against Jayden Daniels has been well fools.

I finally got hot. I had a three oz weekend. I like Buffalo plus the points, and I like Philadelphia to cover.

I finally got hot. I had a three oz weekend. I like Buffalo plus the points, and I like Philadelphia to cover.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I think that's that's a good early read. I'm probably with you on both of those.

I think that's that's a good early read. I'm probably with you on both of those.

Next up is uh oh, yeah, Jared Goff three interceptions, two of them in the red zone. I mean, just really bad passes. Also lost a fumble, his first pick six of the season. Colin he was thirty percent off target, his highest of the year. This was against the Washington defense. It's nothing special.

Next up is uh oh, yeah, Jared Goff three interceptions, two of them in the red zone. I mean, just really bad passes. Also lost a fumble, his first pick six of the season. Colin he was thirty percent off target, his highest of the year. This was against the Washington defense. It's nothing special.

And he's also an experienced quarterback with a great on line and run game, like he I weak. Yeah, I thought it was a I thought Jared, and I'm an apologist. I thought he really was off. And again it'd be different, like Sam Darnold has a week O line and doesn't have a great run game. So when Sam Donald is going to Detroit or Los Angeles, he's got to make plays. When you're playing Washington and that in that defense, my take is I would have gone into the game as Jared Goff just don't make mistakes. Yeah, eat it go down, like there, you have the better run game, you have the better old line, you're at home. I thought he made a couple of throws. I'm like, Jared. One in the end zone. It's like, Jared, what are you doing?

And he's also an experienced quarterback with a great on line and run game, like he I weak. Yeah, I thought it was a I thought Jared, and I'm an apologist. I thought he really was off. And again it'd be different, like Sam Darnold has a week O line and doesn't have a great run game. So when Sam Donald is going to Detroit or Los Angeles, he's got to make plays. When you're playing Washington and that in that defense, my take is I would have gone into the game as Jared Goff just don't make mistakes. Yeah, eat it go down, like there, you have the better run game, you have the better old line, you're at home. I thought he made a couple of throws. I'm like, Jared. One in the end zone. It's like, Jared, what are you doing?

He did get I think it was a concussion.

He did get I think it was a concussion.

Yeah, why Bridgewater came in and you know it instantly brought me back to that Michigan Ohio State game when Will Howard took that shot early and he never looked the same in the rest of the game. Michigan Ohio State and Goff, I didn't think he was particularly sharp. I don't know if he was impacted by I haven't heard him talk about it, but Penay Sewell defended his quarterback after the game.

Yeah, why Bridgewater came in and you know it instantly brought me back to that Michigan Ohio State game when Will Howard took that shot early and he never looked the same in the rest of the game. Michigan Ohio State and Goff, I didn't think he was particularly sharp. I don't know if he was impacted by I haven't heard him talk about it, but Penay Sewell defended his quarterback after the game.

I just don't understand how a team sport that people can put a blame on one person at all. It's not like he's the one that's out there, you know, by himself type. So it's just like, I'll never understand it. But again, that's not my world. And would I pay attention to so.

I just don't understand how a team sport that people can put a blame on one person at all. It's not like he's the one that's out there, you know, by himself type. So it's just like, I'll never understand it. But again, that's not my world. And would I pay attention to so.

Oh really that I got to totally disagree with that it was Jared Goff dropping back in the pocket and making horrible reads.

Oh really that I got to totally disagree with that it was Jared Goff dropping back in the pocket and making horrible reads.

Well, I mean, you're out recognizing the.

Well, I mean, you're out recognizing the.

Pressure and coughing the ball. But you do go into games with a certain psychology. Like if I'm Lamar Jackson and I'm going into a game without Jay Flowers and I faced Josh Allen in a loaded Buffalo offense, I probably would take more risks if I'm Jared Goff going into this game with my own line and run game. I'm I'm really gonna swallow it. I'm gonna I'm gonna go into the game say I'm probably have three or four balls. I'm just thrown out of the en zone.

Pressure and coughing the ball. But you do go into games with a certain psychology. Like if I'm Lamar Jackson and I'm going into a game without Jay Flowers and I faced Josh Allen in a loaded Buffalo offense, I probably would take more risks if I'm Jared Goff going into this game with my own line and run game. I'm I'm really gonna swallow it. I'm gonna I'm gonna go into the game say I'm probably have three or four balls. I'm just thrown out of the en zone.

Do you think he got a little tight and nervous because the defense couldn't get stopped and they were playing catch up the entire.

Do you think he got a little tight and nervous because the defense couldn't get stopped and they were playing catch up the entire.

Well in the second half.

Well in the second half.

Certainly, I almost felt like he felt the pressure was on him because the defense they couldn't I mean, Danner was just shredding them. I think they were five for five in the red zone. It's like, can't get a stop. I've got to do a lot to help our team, and tried to do too much. Final story college football. Steve Sarkesian, the great Texas coach, reportedly turned down the chance to interview with two NFL teams unnamed and sign an extension with Texas. We don't know the full contract details yet. It's the second extension in two years for Sarcus Bay salary jumps Wow, from five point eight million to ten point three million.

Certainly, I almost felt like he felt the pressure was on him because the defense they couldn't I mean, Danner was just shredding them. I think they were five for five in the red zone. It's like, can't get a stop. I've got to do a lot to help our team, and tried to do too much. Final story college football. Steve Sarkesian, the great Texas coach, reportedly turned down the chance to interview with two NFL teams unnamed and sign an extension with Texas. We don't know the full contract details yet. It's the second extension in two years for Sarcus Bay salary jumps Wow, from five point eight million to ten point three million.

That's not bad. He's kind of earned it though. He's put Texas well. I remember Texas was way down.

That's not bad. He's kind of earned it though. He's put Texas well. I remember Texas was way down.

People forget like five years ago, they were borderline laughing.

People forget like five years ago, they were borderline laughing.

Well, they this is a financial machine. If you can get to the playoff every year, that's the richest athletic department in the country. So the Texas can pay as much as any NFL team, and I mean everyone. They got the best athletic director in the country. They make money in college baseball. I mean, this is a machine in my state school of Texas. My take is the playoff, the twelve team playoff, which is reportedly going to be tweaked the fourteen It's gonna make coaches richer because how are you gonna fire a guy? If Sark says, well, I made the playoffs six years in a row, and I made the National Championship Game twice, you can't fire him. It's why guys like Jim Beheim, you know, they win a Natty, But Jim Beheim could say forever, Well, I've made the tournament twenty eight years in a row. What are you gonna do now?

Well, they this is a financial machine. If you can get to the playoff every year, that's the richest athletic department in the country. So the Texas can pay as much as any NFL team, and I mean everyone. They got the best athletic director in the country. They make money in college baseball. I mean, this is a machine in my state school of Texas. My take is the playoff, the twelve team playoff, which is reportedly going to be tweaked the fourteen It's gonna make coaches richer because how are you gonna fire a guy? If Sark says, well, I made the playoffs six years in a row, and I made the National Championship Game twice, you can't fire him. It's why guys like Jim Beheim, you know, they win a Natty, But Jim Beheim could say forever, Well, I've made the tournament twenty eight years in a row. What are you gonna do now?

How many teams they can throw?

How many teams they can throw?

Oh well, I mean if you're in Texas, you're not Kaitlin the Bores. Let's say for the next four years he makes the tournament in the SEC, he makes it every year.

Oh well, I mean if you're in Texas, you're not Kaitlin the Bores. Let's say for the next four years he makes the tournament in the SEC, he makes it every year.

You're not gonna get rid of him. Okay, so is the opposite troop. If Sark doesn't make the playoff next year with arts banning.

You're not gonna get rid of him. Okay, so is the opposite troop. If Sark doesn't make the playoff next year with arts banning.

What are you running? Just sign a new contract. But I think anytime you have these expanded playoffs, I think coaches love them because once you only have a four team playoff, it's very easy to go well, you can't even get into the playoff, and we know so much of its scheduling and health. So I think a twelve team playoff is gonna make college coaches at the top schools as riches and a coach.

What are you running? Just sign a new contract. But I think anytime you have these expanded playoffs, I think coaches love them because once you only have a four team playoff, it's very easy to go well, you can't even get into the playoff, and we know so much of its scheduling and health. So I think a twelve team playoff is gonna make college coaches at the top schools as riches and a coach.

So what becomes the baseline for Stark.

So what becomes the baseline for Stark.

You must make the playoffs, yes, period, Yes, not like Final four, No, I think.

You must make the playoffs, yes, period, Yes, not like Final four, No, I think.

I think. I think there's about five jobs in the country where you have to make the playoffs. Bama, Georgia, Ohio, State, Texas.

I think. I think there's about five jobs in the country where you have to make the playoffs. Bama, Georgia, Ohio, State, Texas.

Probably Michigan.

Probably Michigan.

In my opinion, LSU, that's my LSU's a factory. I would say LSU's gotta make it three out of four years. I think those those five Clemson, Michigan, USC, Oklahoma, we need you to be there regularly. I mean, with Phil Knight's money, Oregon needs to probably make it.

In my opinion, LSU, that's my LSU's a factory. I would say LSU's gotta make it three out of four years. I think those those five Clemson, Michigan, USC, Oklahoma, we need you to be there regularly. I mean, with Phil Knight's money, Oregon needs to probably make it.

But then you made it.

But then you made it.

Okay, they may not make it again for another ten days. That's fine, but they still made it.

Okay, they may not make it again for another ten days. That's fine, but they still made it.

But the jobs that you have to make it. Let's just say five out of six years, Texas, Bama, Georgia, Ohio State.

But the jobs that you have to make it. Let's just say five out of six years, Texas, Bama, Georgia, Ohio State.

I think you gotta from Michigan. Michigan won the title.

I think you gotta from Michigan. Michigan won the title.

Michigan does not. They just give a quote recruit at that level. They never have. Michigan recruits B plus A minus. There's like five schools. I think it's LSU, LSU, Bama, Georgia, Ohio State, Texas. When they're rolling, they recruit different than everybody else. Now, you can Michigan not no, no, no, Michigan Notre Dame recruit well, but not everybody can get into Notre Dame academically. There's just a percentage of kids that can't get in there. And Michigan has never quite recruited at Ohio State's level. Ohio's got more good players in their state high school players than Michigan.

Michigan does not. They just give a quote recruit at that level. They never have. Michigan recruits B plus A minus. There's like five schools. I think it's LSU, LSU, Bama, Georgia, Ohio State, Texas. When they're rolling, they recruit different than everybody else. Now, you can Michigan not no, no, no, Michigan Notre Dame recruit well, but not everybody can get into Notre Dame academically. There's just a percentage of kids that can't get in there. And Michigan has never quite recruited at Ohio State's level. Ohio's got more good players in their state high school players than Michigan.

I mean, so, how.

I mean, so, how.

Did Harbaugh have seventy five guys drafted lad or whatever the record?

Did Harbaugh have seventy five guys drafted lad or whatever the record?

Well, because Harbaugh's an elite all time coach, and for the record, it took him a long time to get there. I mean, Urban Meyer took over Florida and Ohio State and forty five minutes later you're like, they're stacked. It takes longer at Notre Dame and a Michigan to build that thing up. And Harball also is a great developer of players. That Michigan team was easily his best team and it was a lot of upper class.

Well, because Harbaugh's an elite all time coach, and for the record, it took him a long time to get there. I mean, Urban Meyer took over Florida and Ohio State and forty five minutes later you're like, they're stacked. It takes longer at Notre Dame and a Michigan to build that thing up. And Harball also is a great developer of players. That Michigan team was easily his best team and it was a lot of upper class.

Remember Harball with Jip Colin Kaepernick. How was Kaepernick without Harbaugh? It's like, I mean, Harball just makes people superstars.

Remember Harball with Jip Colin Kaepernick. How was Kaepernick without Harbaugh? It's like, I mean, Harball just makes people superstars.

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The way, great catch by the staff. We were talking about Michigan's never really recruited as well as Ohio State or LSU or Georgia or Texas. Harbaughn the Michigan National championship team were fourteenth in roster Composite, ranking the lowest ranked team to win a Natty in the college Football Playoff era. So he just he recruited three and four star guys and developed them into a great unit. So we had Matt Hasselbeck on earlier, and we're talking about, you know, Philadelphia is weird, Like they had sixty five net passing yards, but it was bad weather. They had the better roster. They probably came in with a bit of a conservative game plan. I think guy would if I was Philadelphia. He looked around and you're like, we got better players were at home. Stafford's never he's not mobile, he's not very good in the road in cold weather games. And Matt hasselback earlier that worked against the Rams. But Jade and Daniels is different and why they got to step it up.

The way, great catch by the staff. We were talking about Michigan's never really recruited as well as Ohio State or LSU or Georgia or Texas. Harbaughn the Michigan National championship team were fourteenth in roster Composite, ranking the lowest ranked team to win a Natty in the college Football Playoff era. So he just he recruited three and four star guys and developed them into a great unit. So we had Matt Hasselbeck on earlier, and we're talking about, you know, Philadelphia is weird, Like they had sixty five net passing yards, but it was bad weather. They had the better roster. They probably came in with a bit of a conservative game plan. I think guy would if I was Philadelphia. He looked around and you're like, we got better players were at home. Stafford's never he's not mobile, he's not very good in the road in cold weather games. And Matt hasselback earlier that worked against the Rams. But Jade and Daniels is different and why they got to step it up.

He's got a great leadership style.

He's got a great leadership style.

He doesn't care about leading in stats, you know, in terms of the passing game. But I think they got to be better. They got to be better in the passing game. I'll just flat out say it. The quarterback that they're playing is amazing as a runner and as amazing as a thrower.

He doesn't care about leading in stats, you know, in terms of the passing game. But I think they got to be better. They got to be better in the passing game. I'll just flat out say it. The quarterback that they're playing is amazing as a runner and as amazing as a thrower.

And that's not just on Jalen. The guys around him got to step up.

And that's not just on Jalen. The guys around him got to step up.

It was bad weather this weekend, It's gonna be bad weather probably the next weekend. You got to catch the ball in bad weather. He's got to raise his game and be at his best. Do I think Philly, can you know not fly Eagles, fly ron Eagles run to the Super Bowl. I do, But at the same time, they do need more out of their passing game.

It was bad weather this weekend, It's gonna be bad weather probably the next weekend. You got to catch the ball in bad weather. He's got to raise his game and be at his best. Do I think Philly, can you know not fly Eagles, fly ron Eagles run to the Super Bowl. I do, But at the same time, they do need more out of their passing game.

I know they say they could do it if they wanted to. You're gonna need it against Washington in my opinion, Yeah, And I.

I know they say they could do it if they wanted to. You're gonna need it against Washington in my opinion, Yeah, And I.

Mean I think there's sometimes you see things in sports that you've just never seen before. And I think, you know, when you look at Philadelphia, they're going into this game against Washington and they should be favored, and they are favorites, but then you have Jaden Daniels and we've just never seen a rookie like that. I mean, Jaden Daniels was good this year, but he had a three game losing streak middle of the season, and you know he remember about Jayden. What's funny about Jaden Daniels is he was one and three against like playoff teams at LSU. They had great receivers, so we were all kind of like, is it him or the receivers. He was good at Arizona State, he wasn't amazing. He was really good at LSU, but he was a little thin. He got banged up in the middle of this season. I remember when he got banged up, we all said, this was our big concern about him. But it's his last six seven games where against better teams on the road, he has just shifted gears. And Castlebeck talks about Jayden.

Mean I think there's sometimes you see things in sports that you've just never seen before. And I think, you know, when you look at Philadelphia, they're going into this game against Washington and they should be favored, and they are favorites, but then you have Jaden Daniels and we've just never seen a rookie like that. I mean, Jaden Daniels was good this year, but he had a three game losing streak middle of the season, and you know he remember about Jayden. What's funny about Jaden Daniels is he was one and three against like playoff teams at LSU. They had great receivers, so we were all kind of like, is it him or the receivers. He was good at Arizona State, he wasn't amazing. He was really good at LSU, but he was a little thin. He got banged up in the middle of this season. I remember when he got banged up, we all said, this was our big concern about him. But it's his last six seven games where against better teams on the road, he has just shifted gears. And Castlebeck talks about Jayden.

I see people talking about their inexperience being a negative. It is not a negative.

I see people talking about their inexperience being a negative. It is not a negative.

They went on the road to Tampa against a hot Baker Mayfield and Mike Evans team. They said, so what, there's a game anyone, anywhere, anytime, let's go, let's win it. And they go the next week, they win it. They're going to Philly like they don't care, like they don't even know. They've got poise that's that never never been seen before out of a rookie quarterback, and they're playing so well.

They went on the road to Tampa against a hot Baker Mayfield and Mike Evans team. They said, so what, there's a game anyone, anywhere, anytime, let's go, let's win it. And they go the next week, they win it. They're going to Philly like they don't care, like they don't even know. They've got poise that's that never never been seen before out of a rookie quarterback, and they're playing so well.

I think dan Quinn has the bigger job.

I think dan Quinn has the bigger job.

On defense because I don't think the defense is as talented as the offense in Washington, So that'd be the big question for me.

On defense because I don't think the defense is as talented as the offense in Washington, So that'd be the big question for me.

But can they get to the super Bowl? I said it on this show a couple of weeks ago, three weeks a month ago.

But can they get to the super Bowl? I said it on this show a couple of weeks ago, three weeks a month ago.

Absolutely, you could have a rookie quarterback in the Super Bowl, and Jayden Daniels is the guy to me.

Absolutely, you could have a rookie quarterback in the Super Bowl, and Jayden Daniels is the guy to me.

Yep, we've seen a wild card Steeler team. We've seen Joe burrowin road games. Eli Manning and road games. Sometimes when you get into these pressurized markets like Buffalo, you get into like Detroit. There's a lot of pressure in Detroit because Detroit fifteen and you know what's their record, fifteen and two. There are a lot of pressure on the lines. This weekend there were no pressure. And I can remember that Eli Manning team, remember the one that lost to the Patriots around Thanksgiving or something that later in the year. And then so when they played the Patriots in the Super Bowl, and in New England's undefeated, all the pressures on New England. New England's got, you know, Robert Kraft is one of the more powerful owners. You've got Tom Brady. It's undefeated, You've beaten all these you know, really good teams. And the New York Giants came in and like, yeah, we played them pretty tight. We got a better defensive line. There are advantages to be in a considerable underdog. It's just generally speaking, when you get young quarterbacks rookies, Pretty Sanchez, Big Ben for them to get to this spot. These are the rookie quarterbacks to start a championship conference championship game. They all had great defenses Sean King, Big Ben, Flacco, Sanchez Party, so you weren't relying on them to take carry your team. Jayden Daniels is carrying this team. Their scoring defense is near the bottom of the league. That's what makes this so Nutty's. This is not a very good roster. It's not a very good defense. So, I mean, I remember those Mark Sanchez teams. They would Rex Ryan, run the ball, pass rush, get after Manning, and get after Big Ben and Brady. That's not this team. They're gonna you know, they gonna win by shootouts and Philadelphia is gonna move the ball on them. So little. For the record, j Mac, I know it's early, but you got this whole polar vortex thing which is supposed to kind of die down by Saturday. I'm just wondering what the weather's gonna be in the Midwest and outdoors. Are we looking at it like single digit coal? I don't.

Yep, we've seen a wild card Steeler team. We've seen Joe burrowin road games. Eli Manning and road games. Sometimes when you get into these pressurized markets like Buffalo, you get into like Detroit. There's a lot of pressure in Detroit because Detroit fifteen and you know what's their record, fifteen and two. There are a lot of pressure on the lines. This weekend there were no pressure. And I can remember that Eli Manning team, remember the one that lost to the Patriots around Thanksgiving or something that later in the year. And then so when they played the Patriots in the Super Bowl, and in New England's undefeated, all the pressures on New England. New England's got, you know, Robert Kraft is one of the more powerful owners. You've got Tom Brady. It's undefeated, You've beaten all these you know, really good teams. And the New York Giants came in and like, yeah, we played them pretty tight. We got a better defensive line. There are advantages to be in a considerable underdog. It's just generally speaking, when you get young quarterbacks rookies, Pretty Sanchez, Big Ben for them to get to this spot. These are the rookie quarterbacks to start a championship conference championship game. They all had great defenses Sean King, Big Ben, Flacco, Sanchez Party, so you weren't relying on them to take carry your team. Jayden Daniels is carrying this team. Their scoring defense is near the bottom of the league. That's what makes this so Nutty's. This is not a very good roster. It's not a very good defense. So, I mean, I remember those Mark Sanchez teams. They would Rex Ryan, run the ball, pass rush, get after Manning, and get after Big Ben and Brady. That's not this team. They're gonna you know, they gonna win by shootouts and Philadelphia is gonna move the ball on them. So little. For the record, j Mac, I know it's early, but you got this whole polar vortex thing which is supposed to kind of die down by Saturday. I'm just wondering what the weather's gonna be in the Midwest and outdoors. Are we looking at it like single digit coal? I don't.

Early indications are not that cool, okay, but it's not gonna be like a balmy forty five.

Early indications are not that cool, okay, but it's not gonna be like a balmy forty five.

I don't think either. And again, these weather patterns change significantly. You think the outdoors would slow down? Jaydon Daniels cole Well.

I don't think either. And again, these weather patterns change significantly. You think the outdoors would slow down? Jaydon Daniels cole Well.

I think if it's nine degrees, I'll take the run team. Yeah, I'm not taking the slight, thin, mobile quarterback with one really good receiver. I just don't. I don't think the Eagles is a great matchup for the Commanders.

I think if it's nine degrees, I'll take the run team. Yeah, I'm not taking the slight, thin, mobile quarterback with one really good receiver. I just don't. I don't think the Eagles is a great matchup for the Commanders.

I need to see this Quinnon Mitchell injury situation.

I need to see this Quinnon Mitchell injury situation.

He was pivotal. They lost to Kobe Dean last week. That's two starters down on a great defense.

He was pivotal. They lost to Kobe Dean last week. That's two starters down on a great defense.

We'll see.

We'll see.

I can't wait to Monday tonight. Notre Dame, Ohio State third

I can't wait to Monday tonight. Notre Dame, Ohio State third