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Here we go, hour two, just starting out live in Los Angeles. It's the Herd wherever you may be and however you may be listening. Thanks for making us part of your day. Greg Olsen five minutes. He was on the broadcast yesterday Niners. He and Kevin Burkhard do a great job. It was even though it was a blow, and it was a wildly fun exercise for me to sit down and watch two great teams, a lot of good players on Fox Jmax you called it. I kind of called it. We liked the Niners. You liked them big extra rest. When you get to the end of a season, every day counts. San Francisco looked much pressure in the second half. These are long seasons. The weather's cold, you've been in the week before, you're playing Buffalo down to the wire. You get into overtime extra snaps at Philadelphia looked a little gas.

Here we go, hour two, just starting out live in Los Angeles. It's the Herd wherever you may be and however you may be listening. Thanks for making us part of your day. Greg Olsen five minutes. He was on the broadcast yesterday Niners. He and Kevin Burkhard do a great job. It was even though it was a blow, and it was a wildly fun exercise for me to sit down and watch two great teams, a lot of good players on Fox Jmax you called it. I kind of called it. We liked the Niners. You liked them big extra rest. When you get to the end of a season, every day counts. San Francisco looked much pressure in the second half. These are long seasons. The weather's cold, you've been in the week before, you're playing Buffalo down to the wire. You get into overtime extra snaps at Philadelphia looked a little gas.

I'm surprised you didn't go in on the meatball and the Eagles sideline who put his hands on green Law?

I'm surprised you didn't go in on the meatball and the Eagles sideline who put his hands on green Law?

What are you doing touching a Niners player? What do you think is gonna happen?

What are you doing touching a Niners player? What do you think is gonna happen?

And all these Eagles fans defending the guy like dude, this head of security doesn't touch an opposing player. That's way out of boundary. There's chucky he might get suspended, which I would totally agree with.

And all these Eagles fans defending the guy like dude, this head of security doesn't touch an opposing player. That's way out of boundary. There's chucky he might get suspended, which I would totally agree with.

Yeah, I didn't love it either. All right, it's a Monday, it's the second hour. Colin Wright, Colin wrong, plenty of both. Here we go.

Yeah, I didn't love it either. All right, it's a Monday, it's the second hour. Colin Wright, Colin wrong, plenty of both. Here we go.

Where Colin was right?

Where Colin was right?

We had a good Blazing five. We took the Rams, Lions, and Niners. I do apologize the Tim Boyle experiment did not pan out for me or the New York Jets. It was, without question, the silliest pick I've ever made in the history of Blazing five. What was I thinking? Obviously I wasn't We also have the Jags tonight, But we had a winning week three and one with one to go.

We had a good Blazing five. We took the Rams, Lions, and Niners. I do apologize the Tim Boyle experiment did not pan out for me or the New York Jets. It was, without question, the silliest pick I've ever made in the history of Blazing five. What was I thinking? Obviously I wasn't We also have the Jags tonight, But we had a winning week three and one with one to go.

Where Colin was I said?

Where Colin was I said?

Six weeks ago, I said, Jordan Love's inaccurate, apprehensive. I don't see it like he just doesn't have any confidence. I don't know what happened, but his last five games eleven touchdowns, two picks. He's letting it rip. He can be a little erratic. He's a little more far than Rogers. He's not a precise thrower, but he's got these terrific young, twitchy athletes. Boy does Green Bay draft and develop wide receiver talent. He's fun to watch, I said Friday, I didn't care if he won or lost. Just go toe to toe and see if you can play. I'm wrong. He did. It was awesome.

Six weeks ago, I said, Jordan Love's inaccurate, apprehensive. I don't see it like he just doesn't have any confidence. I don't know what happened, but his last five games eleven touchdowns, two picks. He's letting it rip. He can be a little erratic. He's a little more far than Rogers. He's not a precise thrower, but he's got these terrific young, twitchy athletes. Boy does Green Bay draft and develop wide receiver talent. He's fun to watch, I said Friday, I didn't care if he won or lost. Just go toe to toe and see if you can play. I'm wrong. He did. It was awesome.

Where Colin was right, Well, I.

Where Colin was right, Well, I.

Made a prediction Dak Prescott and the Cowboys would roll over Washington Carolina the Giants and probably beat Seattle, and then all of a sudden during the season you'd hear about contract talk for Dak. Well, what do you know, it's fin leeked Ian Rapaport reports the Cowboys Dak are working on a deal. It's as we predicted, Dak beats bad teams, Jerry falls in love, and suddenly you're top and contracts in the middle of a season. Highly cowboy predictable.

Made a prediction Dak Prescott and the Cowboys would roll over Washington Carolina the Giants and probably beat Seattle, and then all of a sudden during the season you'd hear about contract talk for Dak. Well, what do you know, it's fin leeked Ian Rapaport reports the Cowboys Dak are working on a deal. It's as we predicted, Dak beats bad teams, Jerry falls in love, and suddenly you're top and contracts in the middle of a season. Highly cowboy predictable.

Where Colin was raw.

Where Colin was raw.

You know, I gave Russell Wilson a tad too much credit a bad day yesterday. Now, some of it is Houston's defense, and Demico ryans what a great rookie coach he is, but he had three picks. C J. Stroud clearly looked like the better quarterback. And now now Russell had to play at the end of the game to pick up a first down as the pocket collapse. That was classic Russell Wilson. But this was an ugly one. I was probably too much on the hype train. He came back down to earth where Colin was right. I never bought this idea. The Rams were going to be awful. Vegas had their over under it like five and a half, and I kept saying to Jmac, it's a quarterback coach league, and I get mcveighan Stafford as long as he's healthy. With Cooper Cup, they're gonna win some games. Well, right now, they're a playoff team. And I'll say this, I think mcvay's having his best season. I think they're doing an unbelievable job to make this average offensive line work. Poka Naku has been an unbelievable rookie. But if it's a quarterback coach league. McVeigh and Stafford. If Matt's healthy with decent protection, are never going to be terrible. I thought they were an eight win team. They could vie. Didn't necessarily think they were a playoff team, but could vie for it, and they have. Where Colin was wrong, I'm glad Bama made the playoffs. They were nine to zero against the SEC, and I believe Bama deserves to make the playoffs. But I'm surprised. I didn't think they beat Georgia. The quarterback play was inconsistent. They got housed by Texas at home, not only beat by double digits and dominated at home in the fourth quarter. But Saban's a great coach. They got better. I did not think they'd beat Georgia. I didn't think they were consistent enough at quarterback, but it's what Saban does. It didn't help for Georgia a couple of players banged up, but you know what, Alabama lost one of their corners I think during the game. So congrats. I was wrong, and I think they'll make the playoff. Great.

You know, I gave Russell Wilson a tad too much credit a bad day yesterday. Now, some of it is Houston's defense, and Demico ryans what a great rookie coach he is, but he had three picks. C J. Stroud clearly looked like the better quarterback. And now now Russell had to play at the end of the game to pick up a first down as the pocket collapse. That was classic Russell Wilson. But this was an ugly one. I was probably too much on the hype train. He came back down to earth where Colin was right. I never bought this idea. The Rams were going to be awful. Vegas had their over under it like five and a half, and I kept saying to Jmac, it's a quarterback coach league, and I get mcveighan Stafford as long as he's healthy. With Cooper Cup, they're gonna win some games. Well, right now, they're a playoff team. And I'll say this, I think mcvay's having his best season. I think they're doing an unbelievable job to make this average offensive line work. Poka Naku has been an unbelievable rookie. But if it's a quarterback coach league. McVeigh and Stafford. If Matt's healthy with decent protection, are never going to be terrible. I thought they were an eight win team. They could vie. Didn't necessarily think they were a playoff team, but could vie for it, and they have. Where Colin was wrong, I'm glad Bama made the playoffs. They were nine to zero against the SEC, and I believe Bama deserves to make the playoffs. But I'm surprised. I didn't think they beat Georgia. The quarterback play was inconsistent. They got housed by Texas at home, not only beat by double digits and dominated at home in the fourth quarter. But Saban's a great coach. They got better. I did not think they'd beat Georgia. I didn't think they were consistent enough at quarterback, but it's what Saban does. It didn't help for Georgia a couple of players banged up, but you know what, Alabama lost one of their corners I think during the game. So congrats. I was wrong, and I think they'll make the playoff. Great.

Where Colin was right, I've been.

Where Colin was right, I've been.

A Stark guy forever. I know he's got a lot of critics, but Steve sarkkej and I believe can coach. The Longhorns are twelve and one. I think they're offensively deep and creative. They've got a great deal of dexterity. They can win a lot of different ways. I don't know if they could beat back to back a Washington and Bama or a Washington in Michigan. I do think Michigan feels like the best team this year, and I'm gonna make them my pick to win it. But sark can coach. I mean, let's be honest. Texas is a great program. But how many times if they fired a coach and couldn't win at this level?

A Stark guy forever. I know he's got a lot of critics, but Steve sarkkej and I believe can coach. The Longhorns are twelve and one. I think they're offensively deep and creative. They've got a great deal of dexterity. They can win a lot of different ways. I don't know if they could beat back to back a Washington and Bama or a Washington in Michigan. I do think Michigan feels like the best team this year, and I'm gonna make them my pick to win it. But sark can coach. I mean, let's be honest. Texas is a great program. But how many times if they fired a coach and couldn't win at this level?

A lot?

A lot?

Mac Brown won, Sarkas won.

Mac Brown won, Sarkas won.

They deserve credit where Colin was wrong.

They deserve credit where Colin was wrong.

Oregon, what happened to the Ducks? I thought they were the best team along with Michigan and Georgia I saw this year, and let me tell you something, it wasn't that close. I don't care what the score is. Washington had ten more first downs, Washington was ten for fifteen. On third down, Washington jumped out to a lead. Washington was more focused. I think Kaylin de Borr schematically is as good as any college foot coach this thing. Oregon got out schemed outplayed out physicaled. Washington won that game, sort of like the Packers last night. I know it was close, but in the end you felt like Green Bay was the better team. The Huskies were absolutely the better team.

Oregon, what happened to the Ducks? I thought they were the best team along with Michigan and Georgia I saw this year, and let me tell you something, it wasn't that close. I don't care what the score is. Washington had ten more first downs, Washington was ten for fifteen. On third down, Washington jumped out to a lead. Washington was more focused. I think Kaylin de Borr schematically is as good as any college foot coach this thing. Oregon got out schemed outplayed out physicaled. Washington won that game, sort of like the Packers last night. I know it was close, but in the end you felt like Green Bay was the better team. The Huskies were absolutely the better team.

Where Colin was right.

Where Colin was right.

I never bought these stories about Aaron Rodgers coming back to play. First of all, he shouldn't. He's forty. It's a bad offensive line. Who wants to see Aaron Rodgers get hurt? But it kept Aaron in the news cycle, It kept the locker room optimistic. I kind of see why Aaron did it. It's an impulsive owner. You wanted to help Sala, keep everybody in the right frame of mind. But this is not a place where Aaron could come back. If you had the Lions offensive line or the Cowboys offensive line, or if you had the Niners weapons where you could go back three step drop letter ripped, that's not what we have here. I didn't buy that Aaron would play. I understood why he talked about it and discussed it, but the story is today he's unlikely to play.

I never bought these stories about Aaron Rodgers coming back to play. First of all, he shouldn't. He's forty. It's a bad offensive line. Who wants to see Aaron Rodgers get hurt? But it kept Aaron in the news cycle, It kept the locker room optimistic. I kind of see why Aaron did it. It's an impulsive owner. You wanted to help Sala, keep everybody in the right frame of mind. But this is not a place where Aaron could come back. If you had the Lions offensive line or the Cowboys offensive line, or if you had the Niners weapons where you could go back three step drop letter ripped, that's not what we have here. I didn't buy that Aaron would play. I understood why he talked about it and discussed it, but the story is today he's unlikely to play.

Where Colin was right.

Where Colin was right.

Diana Russini, Great Reporters as Roger Goodell wants to get rid of the Toush push. Now, the Competition Committee may push back, but this has been my contention that it's bad television. This is a TV product. I don't like the idea of quarterbacks getting smushed with three hundred and thirty pound offensive lineman. I think it's dangerous. Now, it is something that Philadelphia has better than everybody in football, and they deserve a ton of credit for that. I respect that heck out of Philadelphia, but I don't like the way it looks. I think it can be dangerous. I think you want to keep quarterbacks healthy. And the story is Roger Goodell does not like it either. It will go to a vote in the committee and it'll probably a closet. I can say where Philadelphia is going to vote that part, I can tell you. And with that he and Kevin Burkkhart. I thought it was an entertaining game, and most blowouts aren't fourteen years three Pro bowlers, Fox Sports analysts, So we instead coming into it when seasons, when you get to this point in the season, Greg, you know this, every day counts. Every day you can be in the in the in the tub, in the ice room, you can get therapy. I kind of felt like a rested Niner team really did have a situational advantage on a team that came out of an overtime game. Did you feel like that going in?

Diana Russini, Great Reporters as Roger Goodell wants to get rid of the Toush push. Now, the Competition Committee may push back, but this has been my contention that it's bad television. This is a TV product. I don't like the idea of quarterbacks getting smushed with three hundred and thirty pound offensive lineman. I think it's dangerous. Now, it is something that Philadelphia has better than everybody in football, and they deserve a ton of credit for that. I respect that heck out of Philadelphia, but I don't like the way it looks. I think it can be dangerous. I think you want to keep quarterbacks healthy. And the story is Roger Goodell does not like it either. It will go to a vote in the committee and it'll probably a closet. I can say where Philadelphia is going to vote that part, I can tell you. And with that he and Kevin Burkkhart. I thought it was an entertaining game, and most blowouts aren't fourteen years three Pro bowlers, Fox Sports analysts, So we instead coming into it when seasons, when you get to this point in the season, Greg, you know this, every day counts. Every day you can be in the in the in the tub, in the ice room, you can get therapy. I kind of felt like a rested Niner team really did have a situational advantage on a team that came out of an overtime game. Did you feel like that going in?

We did, you know.

We did, you know.

I think when we started kind of breaking down the game, you know, the night before and all week. I think when we said it at the top of the broadcast, it's not an excuse, and no coaches ever gonna address it, no coaches ever gonna use it. Leading up to the game, when we talked to Nick Sirianni, he said, listen, you know, we know this is hard. We knew all year this was going to be the stretch of games that was gonna challenge us. But I think the reality is it did matter. I do think now do I think if they came in on ten days rest like San Francisco, they would have beat San Francisco. I don't think anyone's beating San Francisco when they play like that, So I think that's first and foremost. I think San fran was just the better team yesterday. But with that being said, they go two back to back thrillers, one going into overtime. Their defense played ninety two snaps last week against Buffalo and winning for behind. I think the physical toll, but even when we talked about the emotional toll, just continuing to get up week after week and play the biggest game of the season every single week you get everyone's best shot. Yeah, I think it's a I don't think it's an excuse, but there's no question it was. It was definitely a factor.

I think when we started kind of breaking down the game, you know, the night before and all week. I think when we said it at the top of the broadcast, it's not an excuse, and no coaches ever gonna address it, no coaches ever gonna use it. Leading up to the game, when we talked to Nick Sirianni, he said, listen, you know, we know this is hard. We knew all year this was going to be the stretch of games that was gonna challenge us. But I think the reality is it did matter. I do think now do I think if they came in on ten days rest like San Francisco, they would have beat San Francisco. I don't think anyone's beating San Francisco when they play like that, So I think that's first and foremost. I think San fran was just the better team yesterday. But with that being said, they go two back to back thrillers, one going into overtime. Their defense played ninety two snaps last week against Buffalo and winning for behind. I think the physical toll, but even when we talked about the emotional toll, just continuing to get up week after week and play the biggest game of the season every single week you get everyone's best shot. Yeah, I think it's a I don't think it's an excuse, but there's no question it was. It was definitely a factor.

There's also as you know, Greg, having played fourteen years, there are teams that you matched up better against. The reality is Philly lost the best linebacker. They got new coordinators and the skill people for the Niners, Greg, they're Hall of Fame level talent, Debo Kittle, McCaffrey, and the guys in the back end. For Philly, they're older, or they're good players, they're not Hall of Fame level. I watch this matchup and I think as long as Kyle can get the ball out, three step shotgun out, it's a matchup problem for Philadelphia with this. I mean, even if they met again, it's not like Deebo, Christon and George are going to be less talented.

There's also as you know, Greg, having played fourteen years, there are teams that you matched up better against. The reality is Philly lost the best linebacker. They got new coordinators and the skill people for the Niners, Greg, they're Hall of Fame level talent, Debo Kittle, McCaffrey, and the guys in the back end. For Philly, they're older, or they're good players, they're not Hall of Fame level. I watch this matchup and I think as long as Kyle can get the ball out, three step shotgun out, it's a matchup problem for Philadelphia with this. I mean, even if they met again, it's not like Deebo, Christon and George are going to be less talented.

Yeah, And that was something I had to kind of set this stage early in the game. The strength of Philly's defense is of course the front. It's their five to man, the rotation, the D line, the depth, the edge, their ability to not only be strong interior against the run, but the edge pressure being able to rush the passer. So the question for Kyle Shanahan was, Okay, how do I take advantage of some pass opportunities on the second and third level. They got two backups playing linebacker, a secondary that's one of the bottom five in the league. How do we take advantage of the back end and the space in the passing game without letting one of the best fronts in the league takeover. So like that was the equation. What's great about Shanahan's system is it's built to protect the protectors right aside from Trent Williams. They can then kind of scheme their way play action pass, quick game, half boots, get the ball out of Perty's hand, not stress the protection, and then allow Deebo, Samuel and McCaffrey and Kittle and Ayuk and all those guys you just mentioned to then take advantage. And that's the chess match. But that's the advantage of this Shanahan system. There's no system in the league that does a better job protecting the guys up front, which then passes that protection along to the quarterback. And then when you have the skill players that he has and the ability to scheme up open space, run after catch, it's a nightmare. And when they're healthy, and again that three game skid, they lost Deebo. We saw McCaffrey get knocked out of the Cleveland game. They lost Deebo, Trent Williams, and McCaffrey all in the same game. The other two didn't come back. McCaffrey played. Now that they're healthy, I think a healthy forty nine ers team, I just I think it's hard to make an argument that they're not the best team in the league right now.

Yeah, And that was something I had to kind of set this stage early in the game. The strength of Philly's defense is of course the front. It's their five to man, the rotation, the D line, the depth, the edge, their ability to not only be strong interior against the run, but the edge pressure being able to rush the passer. So the question for Kyle Shanahan was, Okay, how do I take advantage of some pass opportunities on the second and third level. They got two backups playing linebacker, a secondary that's one of the bottom five in the league. How do we take advantage of the back end and the space in the passing game without letting one of the best fronts in the league takeover. So like that was the equation. What's great about Shanahan's system is it's built to protect the protectors right aside from Trent Williams. They can then kind of scheme their way play action pass, quick game, half boots, get the ball out of Perty's hand, not stress the protection, and then allow Deebo, Samuel and McCaffrey and Kittle and Ayuk and all those guys you just mentioned to then take advantage. And that's the chess match. But that's the advantage of this Shanahan system. There's no system in the league that does a better job protecting the guys up front, which then passes that protection along to the quarterback. And then when you have the skill players that he has and the ability to scheme up open space, run after catch, it's a nightmare. And when they're healthy, and again that three game skid, they lost Deebo. We saw McCaffrey get knocked out of the Cleveland game. They lost Deebo, Trent Williams, and McCaffrey all in the same game. The other two didn't come back. McCaffrey played. Now that they're healthy, I think a healthy forty nine ers team, I just I think it's hard to make an argument that they're not the best team in the league right now.

So you know this. So you were, you know, a high draft pick, but you walked into your camps and you'd see fifth six guys, fifth six round guys, undrafted guys, and you knew it three or four practices in whoa this guy can really play? So we have Kurt Warner undrafted, Tony Romol undrafted, the goat, Tom Brady blah blah blah, sixth round. I look at and I'm like, doesn't have a huge arm, He's not you know, he's not Jalen Hurts Mobile. But when you are in that stadium and you see the play develop, what does he do where you go, Okay, this is not just players and coaching, Like what do you see where you're like, okay, that's You've been in the hure in this league for a long time. You've seen guys who can spin it. He makes some throws, right, yeah.

So you know this. So you were, you know, a high draft pick, but you walked into your camps and you'd see fifth six guys, fifth six round guys, undrafted guys, and you knew it three or four practices in whoa this guy can really play? So we have Kurt Warner undrafted, Tony Romol undrafted, the goat, Tom Brady blah blah blah, sixth round. I look at and I'm like, doesn't have a huge arm, He's not you know, he's not Jalen Hurts Mobile. But when you are in that stadium and you see the play develop, what does he do where you go, Okay, this is not just players and coaching, Like what do you see where you're like, okay, that's You've been in the hure in this league for a long time. You've seen guys who can spin it. He makes some throws, right, yeah.

I think obviously we know the things that work against him. Everything you just mentioned his draft status being mister irrelevant. He's not the tallest guy. He's not going to win the Combine. He's not going to win the you know, he's not gonna be the most impressive looking quarterback on the field. But there's two things that separate him. He is a highly elite processor. When you talk to Kyle Shanahan, I had a minute to talk with Sam Darnold before the game, who I've gotten to know from his time here in Carolina, and he said, listen, I've been around a lot of guys and this was unsolicited. We were just kind of bsing on the field, just kind of catching up. And he goes, he processes and can go through reads. He can check off. Okay, that's a bad look. Get out of that faster than any quarterback or any guy that I've ever played with at any level. I mean, that's a pretty unique conversation for a guy that's only in his second year as a starter, first year as a full season starter. So he does he does that highly at a high level, and he does a great job operating in muddy environments. There's times where there's leakage, there's time where he has to move in the pocket, there's time the protection is not perfect, there's bodies around him, and he is highly accurate. So I think those two things, being highly accurate and being a fast processor, you can make up for not being six to three.

I think obviously we know the things that work against him. Everything you just mentioned his draft status being mister irrelevant. He's not the tallest guy. He's not going to win the Combine. He's not going to win the you know, he's not gonna be the most impressive looking quarterback on the field. But there's two things that separate him. He is a highly elite processor. When you talk to Kyle Shanahan, I had a minute to talk with Sam Darnold before the game, who I've gotten to know from his time here in Carolina, and he said, listen, I've been around a lot of guys and this was unsolicited. We were just kind of bsing on the field, just kind of catching up. And he goes, he processes and can go through reads. He can check off. Okay, that's a bad look. Get out of that faster than any quarterback or any guy that I've ever played with at any level. I mean, that's a pretty unique conversation for a guy that's only in his second year as a starter, first year as a full season starter. So he does he does that highly at a high level, and he does a great job operating in muddy environments. There's times where there's leakage, there's time where he has to move in the pocket, there's time the protection is not perfect, there's bodies around him, and he is highly accurate. So I think those two things, being highly accurate and being a fast processor, you can make up for not being six to three.

You can make up for not running four five.

You can make up for not running four five.

I mean, there's a lot of things that you can do to make up for maybe physical limitations. But the notion that he's just the feeld good story that has to be put to rest, Like this guy is a full blown NFL starter. That conversation, in my mind, should be put to rest. Will he win the MVP? I don't know. Is he in the five man race? Absolutely?

I mean, there's a lot of things that you can do to make up for maybe physical limitations. But the notion that he's just the feeld good story that has to be put to rest, Like this guy is a full blown NFL starter. That conversation, in my mind, should be put to rest. Will he win the MVP? I don't know. Is he in the five man race? Absolutely?

So, you had green Law on the egs kind of security guard on the sideline everybody's got a strong opinion on it. You know, I always kind of feel like players have to and it's really hard to ask a player, you guys are all going a thousand miles an hour and to say, hey, be calm, be collected. Well, it's easy for a guy like me to say that you guys are going to your hair's on fire and you're breathing. What did you make of this?

So, you had green Law on the egs kind of security guard on the sideline everybody's got a strong opinion on it. You know, I always kind of feel like players have to and it's really hard to ask a player, you guys are all going a thousand miles an hour and to say, hey, be calm, be collected. Well, it's easy for a guy like me to say that you guys are going to your hair's on fire and you're breathing. What did you make of this?

I'll be honest. In the moment and watching it again is kind of surreal. In the moment, it brought some life to our game. You know, he was getting out of hand there for a minute, and san Fran was kind of running away. We thought coming out of the second half that Philly need a little spark, they needed a little juice. This was it for a brief period of time. And again Big Dom, who's kind of become a local legend before this and obviously now after it.

I'll be honest. In the moment and watching it again is kind of surreal. In the moment, it brought some life to our game. You know, he was getting out of hand there for a minute, and san Fran was kind of running away. We thought coming out of the second half that Philly need a little spark, they needed a little juice. This was it for a brief period of time. And again Big Dom, who's kind of become a local legend before this and obviously now after it.

He can't put his hands on green Law.

He can't put his hands on green Law.

That's no question me personally, I don't think any of it really warranted either one of them getting ejected. Yeah, green Law, the penalty he kind of suplexed Smith.

That's no question me personally, I don't think any of it really warranted either one of them getting ejected. Yeah, green Law, the penalty he kind of suplexed Smith.

That was clearly a penalty.

That was clearly a penalty.

The sidelines kind of put their hands I don't necessarily think either one of them did anything that egregious.

The sidelines kind of put their hands I don't necessarily think either one of them did anything that egregious.

I mean, I don't think green Law.

I mean, I don't think green Law.

I mean, I think a lot of it was kind of overblown at the end of the day. Yes, Tom cannot put his hands on players. I'm sure, Siriana. You heard him apologize to Shanahan after the game. I think that's for sure. I don't think green Laws should have been thrown out. I don't think he should have been removed from the sidelines. The penalty was enforced on the field. Everything else was just emotions running hot. But it did bring some energy and some fun life to the game, so we had a good time with it.

I mean, I think a lot of it was kind of overblown at the end of the day. Yes, Tom cannot put his hands on players. I'm sure, Siriana. You heard him apologize to Shanahan after the game. I think that's for sure. I don't think green Laws should have been thrown out. I don't think he should have been removed from the sidelines. The penalty was enforced on the field. Everything else was just emotions running hot. But it did bring some energy and some fun life to the game, so we had a good time with it.

Yeah, I mean, it's I kind of feel like you did it. We in the media sometimes we want this immediate reaction after a win or a loss, and it's like, can we let these players their hairs on fire? You've been in these You're a smart, concient, just guy. You've probably lost yourself for a moment in the game, have you not. Yeah?

Yeah, I mean, it's I kind of feel like you did it. We in the media sometimes we want this immediate reaction after a win or a loss, and it's like, can we let these players their hairs on fire? You've been in these You're a smart, concient, just guy. You've probably lost yourself for a moment in the game, have you not. Yeah?

Absolutely, Yeah, And that's why I think, again, when you look back on it, I really didn't think even in the moment, and we kind of had made light of it to a degree, and I think people are overreacting. I'm reading articles today that the Philadelphia you know, head of security, dom like he needs to be banned from NFL sidelines forever. I just feel like people just take everything to the complete extreme. I don't think there's any possibility of suspension for green Law. I don't think him kind of to me, it looked like he was like pointing in his face less than trying to strike him. Yeah, so the refs were trying to get a hold of it. I thought it actually brought some fun excitement. Philly ended up finishing the drive with two quarterback sneaks. At some point they're going to run a quarterback sneak from first and.

Absolutely, Yeah, And that's why I think, again, when you look back on it, I really didn't think even in the moment, and we kind of had made light of it to a degree, and I think people are overreacting. I'm reading articles today that the Philadelphia you know, head of security, dom like he needs to be banned from NFL sidelines forever. I just feel like people just take everything to the complete extreme. I don't think there's any possibility of suspension for green Law. I don't think him kind of to me, it looked like he was like pointing in his face less than trying to strike him. Yeah, so the refs were trying to get a hold of it. I thought it actually brought some fun excitement. Philly ended up finishing the drive with two quarterback sneaks. At some point they're going to run a quarterback sneak from first and.

Goal of the five.

Goal of the five.

At this point, it just keeps getting further further and further away. But that was a big moment. And then San France converts on third down the ensuing drive, and then Debo breaks five tackles and bust in. The game back over. But but for a minute there, that five to six minutes of that quarter, that was when the game kind of came to life a little bit.

At this point, it just keeps getting further further and further away. But that was a big moment. And then San France converts on third down the ensuing drive, and then Debo breaks five tackles and bust in. The game back over. But but for a minute there, that five to six minutes of that quarter, that was when the game kind of came to life a little bit.

Okay, so we were saying this, I know you were flying home and Jordan Love played Mahomes, and I said that it didn't matter. If Jordan Love won, he would get a huge buying in the building if he could look like when GoF beat Mahomes in La. Had he not won, you were like, oh, GoF can go toe to toe with Mahomes. We got ourselves a franchise guy. This guy can take us places. Because personnel departments every year are looking, you know, they're looking over your shoulder. And I thought, what Jordan Love last night? Win or lose the play calling they're clearly saying, kid, let it rip. And you know this, not every coordinator does it with his players. So do we lose gregor we still have Greg? Can you still see us Greg? No, he just lost him. Greg Olsen, we lost him. I do think you know. And I said, five six weeks ago, I just did not at all see it with Jordan Love. But Matt Lafleur after the game came out and just said, hey, we just told him sometimes you got let it rip. And it's just the maturation and the growth. He'd been on the bench for three years. I figured he'd have it right out of the shoot. He didn't. Now he's got it and it looks special. And I'll tell you this, in the NFC and the AFC, a lot of these teams have drafted quarterbacks and hit on them. Herbert Trevor Lawrence. Okay, let's go back to Greg Olsen. So, Greg, we were talking about Jordan Love. I didn't think he had to win, but he had to show that he could go toe to toe and make plays. And my takeaway after that game is, if you're a Packer fan executive, the guys upstairs, the coach, the coordinator, the dude looks like he can play. He can go toe to toe. He's a little erratic, but there's a lot there. Right.

Okay, so we were saying this, I know you were flying home and Jordan Love played Mahomes, and I said that it didn't matter. If Jordan Love won, he would get a huge buying in the building if he could look like when GoF beat Mahomes in La. Had he not won, you were like, oh, GoF can go toe to toe with Mahomes. We got ourselves a franchise guy. This guy can take us places. Because personnel departments every year are looking, you know, they're looking over your shoulder. And I thought, what Jordan Love last night? Win or lose the play calling they're clearly saying, kid, let it rip. And you know this, not every coordinator does it with his players. So do we lose gregor we still have Greg? Can you still see us Greg? No, he just lost him. Greg Olsen, we lost him. I do think you know. And I said, five six weeks ago, I just did not at all see it with Jordan Love. But Matt Lafleur after the game came out and just said, hey, we just told him sometimes you got let it rip. And it's just the maturation and the growth. He'd been on the bench for three years. I figured he'd have it right out of the shoot. He didn't. Now he's got it and it looks special. And I'll tell you this, in the NFC and the AFC, a lot of these teams have drafted quarterbacks and hit on them. Herbert Trevor Lawrence. Okay, let's go back to Greg Olsen. So, Greg, we were talking about Jordan Love. I didn't think he had to win, but he had to show that he could go toe to toe and make plays. And my takeaway after that game is, if you're a Packer fan executive, the guys upstairs, the coach, the coordinator, the dude looks like he can play. He can go toe to toe. He's a little erratic, but there's a lot there. Right.

Yeah, I think it's exciting, right. I think this young, you know, this athletic, young wide receiver group that had some struggles early in the season just took a little time. I think Jordan Love kind of rode that up and down roller coaster along with them. We saw him on Thanksgiving up in Detroit. Detroit was kind of toast of the league, and I didn't think that was a fluke. The game's coming into Detroit, Jordan Love was playing his best football. Weekend week out Detroit was his best game of his career in the game before was the best game of his career, and now you could argue the Kansas City game was his best moment of his career, you know, winning at home against the defending Super Bowl CHAMPCE.

Yeah, I think it's exciting, right. I think this young, you know, this athletic, young wide receiver group that had some struggles early in the season just took a little time. I think Jordan Love kind of rode that up and down roller coaster along with them. We saw him on Thanksgiving up in Detroit. Detroit was kind of toast of the league, and I didn't think that was a fluke. The game's coming into Detroit, Jordan Love was playing his best football. Weekend week out Detroit was his best game of his career in the game before was the best game of his career, and now you could argue the Kansas City game was his best moment of his career, you know, winning at home against the defending Super Bowl CHAMPCE.

So I don't think there's any question.

So I don't think there's any question.

I think this last five week kind of sample size of Jordan Love. I don't think he's just playing good relative to a young player making his first you know, full season as a starter.

I think this last five week kind of sample size of Jordan Love. I don't think he's just playing good relative to a young player making his first you know, full season as a starter.

I think he's playing playoff football.

I think he's playing playoff football.

I mean, if they continue to play like this and go toe to toe with some of the playoff contenders in this league, I think they got a shot to grab that.

I mean, if they continue to play like this and go toe to toe with some of the playoff contenders in this league, I think they got a shot to grab that.

Last playoff wildcard spot.

Last playoff wildcard spot.

And I don't know if I'm thrilled playing them, even though I get to play him at home.

And I don't know if I'm thrilled playing them, even though I get to play him at home.

Yeah.

Yeah.

No, I actually looked at their schedule last night. I think Green Bayou I would vote today that Green Bay gets in. Now Kansas City. They've had close losses. I kind of feel like I used the example earlier, It's like apple Stock. I know it's good long, but they may occasionally have an iPhone. I don't like. It feels like I know they're going to be final eventually, but this just feels like a bunch of kid receivers and Mahomes is trying to pull them along and they're not there. They don't feel as special this year. Is that fair? Yeah?

No, I actually looked at their schedule last night. I think Green Bayou I would vote today that Green Bay gets in. Now Kansas City. They've had close losses. I kind of feel like I used the example earlier, It's like apple Stock. I know it's good long, but they may occasionally have an iPhone. I don't like. It feels like I know they're going to be final eventually, but this just feels like a bunch of kid receivers and Mahomes is trying to pull them along and they're not there. They don't feel as special this year. Is that fair? Yeah?

I think that's fair. And I think the results in the scores and the metrics and some of the more, you know, the things that were a customed And we said this a little bit about Philly yesterday, and oftentimes in the NFL, you fall victim to your own success. The expectations of what we've seen for years becomes the expectation that if we don't see it on a week by week basis, all of a sudden, you've completely fallen off the map. I think that's happened with Philly. You know, after yesterday's people say, oh my god, they're not as good. The defense is not as dominant as it was last year. I think the same thing can be said about, you know, Mahomes and the Chiefs. The reality is Kansas City is still amongst this top tier because of how good this young defense has gotten. I mean they they kind of went through a little bit of a young rebuild last year on defense, invested a lot of young picks, a lot of young secondary players and upfront playing, and they ended up winning the Super Bowl. They're able to weather turnover because if you have a quarterback and you have a coach, which obviously they have two of the best ever, you can weather turnover it everywhere else. Now, the question is they were able to bring some of those new pass catchers Juju and Tony and these guys last year and win a Super Bowl. Can they bring this new crop of guys. They have Kelsey, they have Pacheco, they have Mahomes. Can they get the rest of this cast on offense to just be dynamic enough that they don't have to win every game on the back of their defense, Because let's be honest, their defense as a whole across the whole season has been better than their offense has been. It's just their offense has lightning in a bottle because they have the best player in the world, one of the best tight ends of all time, and a couple pieces and one of the best play callers head coaches. So they have the pieces on offense to do it at the right spots. But do they have enough guys around them to win a Super Bowl? I think that's the question that remains.

I think that's fair. And I think the results in the scores and the metrics and some of the more, you know, the things that were a customed And we said this a little bit about Philly yesterday, and oftentimes in the NFL, you fall victim to your own success. The expectations of what we've seen for years becomes the expectation that if we don't see it on a week by week basis, all of a sudden, you've completely fallen off the map. I think that's happened with Philly. You know, after yesterday's people say, oh my god, they're not as good. The defense is not as dominant as it was last year. I think the same thing can be said about, you know, Mahomes and the Chiefs. The reality is Kansas City is still amongst this top tier because of how good this young defense has gotten. I mean they they kind of went through a little bit of a young rebuild last year on defense, invested a lot of young picks, a lot of young secondary players and upfront playing, and they ended up winning the Super Bowl. They're able to weather turnover because if you have a quarterback and you have a coach, which obviously they have two of the best ever, you can weather turnover it everywhere else. Now, the question is they were able to bring some of those new pass catchers Juju and Tony and these guys last year and win a Super Bowl. Can they bring this new crop of guys. They have Kelsey, they have Pacheco, they have Mahomes. Can they get the rest of this cast on offense to just be dynamic enough that they don't have to win every game on the back of their defense, Because let's be honest, their defense as a whole across the whole season has been better than their offense has been. It's just their offense has lightning in a bottle because they have the best player in the world, one of the best tight ends of all time, and a couple pieces and one of the best play callers head coaches. So they have the pieces on offense to do it at the right spots. But do they have enough guys around them to win a Super Bowl? I think that's the question that remains.

All right, say hi to cav Greg Olsen great broadcast. Good seeing you again, my friend and the Monday. I appreciate it.

All right, say hi to cav Greg Olsen great broadcast. Good seeing you again, my friend and the Monday. I appreciate it.

You got it, thanks Cayl.

You got it, thanks Cayl.

We know we were saying this about Jordan Love, j Mac is that the AFC so many of these teams have hit on quarterbacks. You know, Josh Allen is obviously a big hit, and Herbert and Trevor Lawrence and Lamar Jackson and Mahomes now has been a year ear Burrow like they've hit on these and it's why the AFC, which I felt was inferior outside of maybe like Peyton's team and Tom's team inferior or the NFC for years. The NFC teams need to hit on some of these guys. By the way, CJ. Stroud looks like a hit in the AFC. Well, Jordan Love at this level, it's like, okay, this is what you need. You need Jordan Love, because you got Aaron Rodgers now leaving, and then you have Russell Wilson Leavin, and then you got Matt Stafford. He stayed, he went to a better coach, So that's good. But the NFC needs some of these young quarterbacks to hit. So Jordan Love that game last night and that game against Detroit. You're like, Okay, Green Bay is gonna be It looks like fine.

We know we were saying this about Jordan Love, j Mac is that the AFC so many of these teams have hit on quarterbacks. You know, Josh Allen is obviously a big hit, and Herbert and Trevor Lawrence and Lamar Jackson and Mahomes now has been a year ear Burrow like they've hit on these and it's why the AFC, which I felt was inferior outside of maybe like Peyton's team and Tom's team inferior or the NFC for years. The NFC teams need to hit on some of these guys. By the way, CJ. Stroud looks like a hit in the AFC. Well, Jordan Love at this level, it's like, okay, this is what you need. You need Jordan Love, because you got Aaron Rodgers now leaving, and then you have Russell Wilson Leavin, and then you got Matt Stafford. He stayed, he went to a better coach, So that's good. But the NFC needs some of these young quarterbacks to hit. So Jordan Love that game last night and that game against Detroit. You're like, Okay, Green Bay is gonna be It looks like fine.

Oh, we're sure of that. This is a three game sample side. I know two of them were Island games. I know one was where Detroit handed than the game I know early. I'm not poop pooing Jordan Love. I'm just saying, like, I need to see a little more.

Oh, we're sure of that. This is a three game sample side. I know two of them were Island games. I know one was where Detroit handed than the game I know early. I'm not poop pooing Jordan Love. I'm just saying, like, I need to see a little more.

Well.

Well.

He looked great the last few weeks.

He looked great the last few weeks.

I thought the game last night was more about the Chiefs though, Colin, they're not scaring anybody these days like they used to be. Like, oh, Patrick Mahomes gets the ball late, that's a touchdown.

I thought the game last night was more about the Chiefs though, Colin, they're not scaring anybody these days like they used to be. Like, oh, Patrick Mahomes gets the ball late, that's a touchdown.

Ring it up.

Ring it up.

I gonna win. I don't have They're they're not delivering.

I gonna win. I don't have They're they're not delivering.

I would say this. My takeaway on that game was that the Chiefs, I think I don't have the data in front of me, have felt like a very good third down defense. And I thought Jordan Love on multiple third downs just made a play. And I'm like, I haven't seen anybody on third down do what Jordan Love did, Like he made a couple of throws and it's just again, it's got a little backyard field to it. It's a little Josh Allen where you're like, I wish he was sad, but that why, let's not undervalue green wide receiver talent may be young, it's good they got some dudes. They got multiple guys that can really run and get open.

I would say this. My takeaway on that game was that the Chiefs, I think I don't have the data in front of me, have felt like a very good third down defense. And I thought Jordan Love on multiple third downs just made a play. And I'm like, I haven't seen anybody on third down do what Jordan Love did, Like he made a couple of throws and it's just again, it's got a little backyard field to it. It's a little Josh Allen where you're like, I wish he was sad, but that why, let's not undervalue green wide receiver talent may be young, it's good they got some dudes. They got multiple guys that can really run and get open.

I didn't factor this in to the handicap of Chiefs Packers because I like, I like the Chiefs in that one. Next week, do you know who the Chiefs play? You want to take a guess, Josh Allen and the Buffalo Bills. That's like a rivalry. That's a big game. This was a non conference game Packers like didn't. I mean Moms' first time to let there just wasn't a lot of juice for the Chiefs in that game. It mattered to the Packers a lot, it was, but his look ahead games in December they matter, that's a thing.

I didn't factor this in to the handicap of Chiefs Packers because I like, I like the Chiefs in that one. Next week, do you know who the Chiefs play? You want to take a guess, Josh Allen and the Buffalo Bills. That's like a rivalry. That's a big game. This was a non conference game Packers like didn't. I mean Moms' first time to let there just wasn't a lot of juice for the Chiefs in that game. It mattered to the Packers a lot, it was, but his look ahead games in December they matter, that's a thing.

This felt like the biggest game in Jordan Love's career. Huge games. They're in the playoffs well, and also the kid can measure up against an all timer. It was a big game.

This felt like the biggest game in Jordan Love's career. Huge games. They're in the playoffs well, and also the kid can measure up against an all timer. It was a big game.

This was just another game for the Chiefs. Next week is their big one against the Bills, who were off a bye.

This was just another game for the Chiefs. Next week is their big one against the Bills, who were off a bye.

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There was a moment yesterday. I know many of you did not watch the Rams Browns game, but there was a moment in that game that Tom Brady had talked about recently, Chess against Checkers. Matt Stafford had a moment in that game. It was a chess moment where he walked to the line. He looked at Cleveland's defense, which is excellent. In fact, the Browns had one of the best passing defenses in the league, and Stafford came back audible, moved the pieces took a snap, quick throw Poka Nakua, longest touchdown pass of the year. That was not the design play. That was a veteran quarterback at the line. It was absolutely a chess over checkers move. He audibled out of something he didn't like. He audibled into something he saw and you rarely see a quarterback do that so deliberately, and it delivers a touchdown on a slant the Puka nakua.

There was a moment yesterday. I know many of you did not watch the Rams Browns game, but there was a moment in that game that Tom Brady had talked about recently, Chess against Checkers. Matt Stafford had a moment in that game. It was a chess moment where he walked to the line. He looked at Cleveland's defense, which is excellent. In fact, the Browns had one of the best passing defenses in the league, and Stafford came back audible, moved the pieces took a snap, quick throw Poka Nakua, longest touchdown pass of the year. That was not the design play. That was a veteran quarterback at the line. It was absolutely a chess over checkers move. He audibled out of something he didn't like. He audibled into something he saw and you rarely see a quarterback do that so deliberately, and it delivers a touchdown on a slant the Puka nakua.

So it was.

So it was.

It was the example of what Tom Brady talks about is the kids are playing checkers, the older guys are playing chess, and Stafford you could YouTube it had that play yesterday. I think it was first half. If I recalled a pooka naku, it was a real moment. It all crystallized into one moment. Goes up, steps back, looks around, directs traffic, snap, boom, home run, touchdown, all audible. Jmack with a.

It was the example of what Tom Brady talks about is the kids are playing checkers, the older guys are playing chess, and Stafford you could YouTube it had that play yesterday. I think it was first half. If I recalled a pooka naku, it was a real moment. It all crystallized into one moment. Goes up, steps back, looks around, directs traffic, snap, boom, home run, touchdown, all audible. Jmack with a.

News No no hear on the news. This is the herdline news.

News No no hear on the news. This is the herdline news.

All right, let's go.

All right, let's go.

To one of my favorite stories, this Niners Eagles dust up, perfuffle, whatever word you want to use.

To one of my favorite stories, this Niners Eagles dust up, perfuffle, whatever word you want to use.

Let's be clear, this is a clean tackle.

Let's be clear, this is a clean tackle.

I know that people are complaining about a suplex that's in balance, that's a legit tackle, And instantly you see the guy on.

I know that people are complaining about a suplex that's in balance, that's a legit tackle, And instantly you see the guy on.

The Eagle security.

The Eagle security.

I don't like that he reaches in and Greg Olsen said it just so people don't think I'm I'm a hater. He touches green Law first, so then green Law's like, get the hell off me, dude, and afterward you what's his name? The coach of the Eagles apologized, But there's a clean tackle in the pild to play and what's this guy? He's like complaining, where's the flag? And then he touches him. Just dude, hands off.

I don't like that he reaches in and Greg Olsen said it just so people don't think I'm I'm a hater. He touches green Law first, so then green Law's like, get the hell off me, dude, and afterward you what's his name? The coach of the Eagles apologized, But there's a clean tackle in the pild to play and what's this guy? He's like complaining, where's the flag? And then he touches him. Just dude, hands off.

You can't that security guard has no right to touch that player.

You can't that security guard has no right to touch that player.

Yeah, great, green Law has the right to be fired up anyway. I just I like this video.

Yeah, great, green Law has the right to be fired up anyway. I just I like this video.

I like that his name is Dom. He's a tough Yeah.

I like that his name is Dom. He's a tough Yeah.

I didn't know who he was.

I didn't know who he was.

I was just like, who's this random dude on the sideline? They're like, that's domb and do you know everybody should have a domb?

I was just like, who's this random dude on the sideline? They're like, that's domb and do you know everybody should have a domb?

Yeah?

Yeah?

What does this guy own? Like a what is the cheese steak? I don't know twenty five years or how much I like him.

What does this guy own? Like a what is the cheese steak? I don't know twenty five years or how much I like him.

And the crowd loved him, but I don't like there's no reason to be touching the player.

And the crowd loved him, but I don't like there's no reason to be touching the player.

Especially not the Niners, who were like the biggest, baddest team.

Especially not the Niners, who were like the biggest, baddest team.

In the league. I'm just it's weird how the Niners are.

In the league. I'm just it's weird how the Niners are.

Just listen, Shanahan gets to a Super Bowl with Jimmy Garoppolo and now Rock Party within what a four or five year span.

Just listen, Shanahan gets to a Super Bowl with Jimmy Garoppolo and now Rock Party within what a four or five year span.

Dude, it's got to be one of the best offensive minds the game has ever seen. Like what they're doing.

Dude, it's got to be one of the best offensive minds the game has ever seen. Like what they're doing.

He's good.

He's good.

They've rung forty two on Dallas.

They've rung forty two on Dallas.

And forty two on the Eagles, two of the top five teams in the league.

And forty two on the Eagles, two of the top five teams in the league.

I love it. Anyways, Next up, Jordan Love.

I love it. Anyways, Next up, Jordan Love.

Okay, two hundred sixty seven yards three touchdowns at this is?

Okay, two hundred sixty seven yards three touchdowns at this is?

This is pretty special. That is a great throw. That is an all time back foot thirty yards in the air. Hold on about no, not that one.

This is pretty special. That is a great throw. That is an all time back foot thirty yards in the air. Hold on about no, not that one.

Mc duffy got caught in traffic there, that does.

Mc duffy got caught in traffic there, that does.

But dude, look at that throw back to that is that is Roger.

But dude, look at that throw back to that is that is Roger.

He'd tried to.

He'd tried to.

Make that throw yesterday Russell Wilson at the end of the game and it was intercepted in the end zone.

Make that throw yesterday Russell Wilson at the end of the game and it was intercepted in the end zone.

Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah.

Anyways, here's a Jordan Love talking about how much this game meant to him.

Anyways, here's a Jordan Love talking about how much this game meant to him.

For me personally, it's just obviously I've had this game, you know, circle for a long time. It's my first start. Obviously didn't play how I wanted two of the first game. So the obverse these guys again and get the victory is huge. You know, it is just a great team winning tonight. You know, everybody just balled out. So but it was awesome.

For me personally, it's just obviously I've had this game, you know, circle for a long time. It's my first start. Obviously didn't play how I wanted two of the first game. So the obverse these guys again and get the victory is huge. You know, it is just a great team winning tonight. You know, everybody just balled out. So but it was awesome.

Woe that was fun. That was a fun telcast.

Woe that was fun. That was a fun telcast.

Is the excitement a little bit too much over Jordan Love? It's three games.

Is the excitement a little bit too much over Jordan Love? It's three games.

Well I think it is, but it's three games in a row playing at a high level as something I think we My takeaway is, and this is not a shot at Jordan. We have to give the Packers credit. They do this quarterback thing well and this wider thing receiver thing well. They never draft I mean, Jordan Love is a first round pick. They take defense first round forever. They always have good offensive lines, will always.

Well I think it is, but it's three games in a row playing at a high level as something I think we My takeaway is, and this is not a shot at Jordan. We have to give the Packers credit. They do this quarterback thing well and this wider thing receiver thing well. They never draft I mean, Jordan Love is a first round pick. They take defense first round forever. They always have good offensive lines, will always.

Have the same time.

Have the same time.

Yeah, it's not like they gave him the extension. Remember the offseason, like, hey, take a little bit of a haircut.

Yeah, it's not like they gave him the extension. Remember the offseason, like, hey, take a little bit of a haircut.

I know everybody's like Colin you said the Packers gave him a deal that was like yeah, you're mid. They gave him a total mid cost.

I know everybody's like Colin you said the Packers gave him a deal that was like yeah, you're mid. They gave him a total mid cost.

They didn't know.

They didn't know.

The Packers fans are out of control. Now that being said, they got the Giants this week. That's a w so they'll be seven and six. Then they got Tampa Bay, which is so banged up. Green Bay should double you. Then it's Carolina doub No, Green Minnesota.

The Packers fans are out of control. Now that being said, they got the Giants this week. That's a w so they'll be seven and six. Then they got Tampa Bay, which is so banged up. Green Bay should double you. Then it's Carolina doub No, Green Minnesota.

We don't know who their quarterbacks getting well, I think yeah, West green Bay's getting in. I'll make my I.

We don't know who their quarterbacks getting well, I think yeah, West green Bay's getting in. I'll make my I.

Think they're in.

Think they're in.

And then the Bears, like Green Bay should be a playoffeam. Now, I don't know how live they are, but.

And then the Bears, like Green Bay should be a playoffeam. Now, I don't know how live they are, but.

You have time out. I think with these weapons now, young teams generally as wild cards, don't go in and win at Philly, at Sanford, at Dallas, I don't think they'd win. But they're a live team with this. They're they're receiving and tight end car dude is bald.

You have time out. I think with these weapons now, young teams generally as wild cards, don't go in and win at Philly, at Sanford, at Dallas, I don't think they'd win. But they're a live team with this. They're they're receiving and tight end car dude is bald.

I'm not so sure the Lions would want to see them.

I'm not so sure the Lions would want to see them.

Oh no, no, no, Lions can't protect them in the first game.

Oh no, no, no, Lions can't protect them in the first game.

And then the Packers got a lot better.

And then the Packers got a lot better.

And now you think this is a fluke. I think they create. I think they're really quick and twitchy, and the Packers have hit several at least strong doubles at wide receives.

And now you think this is a fluke. I think they create. I think they're really quick and twitchy, and the Packers have hit several at least strong doubles at wide receives.

Where are you in a Lafleur Campbell coaching matchup in the playoffs?

Where are you in a Lafleur Campbell coaching matchup in the playoffs?

Yeah?

Yeah?

Not great for the Lions Detroit. You want to avoid them all right.

Not great for the Lions Detroit. You want to avoid them all right.

Let's get to the final story and Florida State that undefeated run this season, capturing the ACC title in a slog over Louisville, but they got denied in the College Football Playoff. Injured quarterback Jordan Travis listen, you got a feel for him. He posted this after the final rankings were announced. Devastated, heartbroken, in so much disbelief right now. I wish my leg broke earlier so y'all could see this team as much more than the QB. I thought results matter thirteen or zero, and this roster matches up across any team in those top four.

Let's get to the final story and Florida State that undefeated run this season, capturing the ACC title in a slog over Louisville, but they got denied in the College Football Playoff. Injured quarterback Jordan Travis listen, you got a feel for him. He posted this after the final rankings were announced. Devastated, heartbroken, in so much disbelief right now. I wish my leg broke earlier so y'all could see this team as much more than the QB. I thought results matter thirteen or zero, and this roster matches up across any team in those top four.

I'm so sorry go Noles.

I'm so sorry go Noles.

I can feel bad for him. I can think two things. He's a great kid, and I feel bad for him, and Alabama should be you. I don't have to mush everything together. I can think two things.

I can feel bad for him. I can think two things. He's a great kid, and I feel bad for him, and Alabama should be you. I don't have to mush everything together. I can think two things.

Who's got unlucky? And you know what? If I think, are they playing Georgia in a bowl game or no?

Who's got unlucky? And you know what? If I think, are they playing Georgia in a bowl game or no?

Yeah, okay, ill.

Yeah, okay, ill.

Georgia is not gonna care at all about that game.

Georgia is not gonna care at all about that game.

Okay, they had won twenty ninth straight, they'd only been to the playoff with the last two.

Okay, they had won twenty ninth straight, they'd only been to the playoff with the last two.

Georgia is gonna beat them. You're not gonna send a third knowing good luck with a third stringquarterback beating Georgia. And by the way, Kirby smart, he's not going to roll over and not care. He's going to be Georgia knew once they lost.

Georgia is gonna beat them. You're not gonna send a third knowing good luck with a third stringquarterback beating Georgia. And by the way, Kirby smart, he's not going to roll over and not care. He's going to be Georgia knew once they lost.

We've seen this.

We've seen this.

Georgia is favored by two touchdowns. They are taking Georgia.

Georgia is favored by two touchdowns. They are taking Georgia.

Be careful. The motivation is everything for these ball games. Do the kids care? Do they want to be there?

Be careful. The motivation is everything for these ball games. Do the kids care? Do they want to be there?

Florida State is super angry and motivated and ticked off. They got like four or five defensive players who are going to be pros. I'm gonna see if they're gonna play, and then I would.

Florida State is super angry and motivated and ticked off. They got like four or five defensive players who are going to be pros. I'm gonna see if they're gonna play, and then I would.

Probably I could argue that Florida State's so dejected they don't give a rip, and the guys are already going to go work out Dot Combine, let me give you it's something about this funny. So the college football Playoff has a problem. It's not a lack of fairness, it's a lack of good games in the semifinal, so only five of the eighteen semifinal games have been close. Last year we got our best semifinal game, arguably ever, Ohio State in Georgia Classic. Yeah, and Ohio State didn't even win their conference, but the eye ball test was Ohio State's really good get him in against Georgia and it was the best game of the year. Two years earlier, it was like Cincinnati Bearcats, what a story dog twenty six to seven this playoff And this is why it was so great because this was the last four team playoffs. So the committee said, screw it, We're just gonna put the best teams in. And it was like, that's how you should always think.

Probably I could argue that Florida State's so dejected they don't give a rip, and the guys are already going to go work out Dot Combine, let me give you it's something about this funny. So the college football Playoff has a problem. It's not a lack of fairness, it's a lack of good games in the semifinal, so only five of the eighteen semifinal games have been close. Last year we got our best semifinal game, arguably ever, Ohio State in Georgia Classic. Yeah, and Ohio State didn't even win their conference, but the eye ball test was Ohio State's really good get him in against Georgia and it was the best game of the year. Two years earlier, it was like Cincinnati Bearcats, what a story dog twenty six to seven this playoff And this is why it was so great because this was the last four team playoffs. So the committee said, screw it, We're just gonna put the best teams in. And it was like, that's how you should always think.

Say you like Washington against Texas, huh.

Say you like Washington against Texas, huh.

I plus four and a half? Yes, the longer now, I think Texas should be favored, but they met last year in the Alamo Boat. Yeah, the longer Kaylin de Borg gets to.

I plus four and a half? Yes, the longer now, I think Texas should be favored, but they met last year in the Alamo Boat. Yeah, the longer Kaylin de Borg gets to.

Prepare, he's good.

Prepare, he's good.

You know, I wouldn't want to face him. I mean, if I'm sarked, I don't want to face him. I faced him in a bowl game last year and I had way better players than I couldn't beat him, So I that's that thing.

You know, I wouldn't want to face him. I mean, if I'm sarked, I don't want to face him. I faced him in a bowl game last year and I had way better players than I couldn't beat him, So I that's that thing.

I took Texas at four, juiced for it out four and a half.

I took Texas at four, juiced for it out four and a half.

All right, all right, I don't think you're wrong, but I just I would not want to face and by the way, Washington has been in so many close games, they are magic in close games. I would not want that puppy to be tied. Was seven to go, yi because Texas rolled over a lot of people, including Bama. I think Michigan is wins by a field goal for Bama, and I think Texas Washington is down to the wire. I think Texas is more talented, clearly, and if they get a lead and can lean on him and run the ball, it could be trouble.

All right, all right, I don't think you're wrong, but I just I would not want to face and by the way, Washington has been in so many close games, they are magic in close games. I would not want that puppy to be tied. Was seven to go, yi because Texas rolled over a lot of people, including Bama. I think Michigan is wins by a field goal for Bama, and I think Texas Washington is down to the wire. I think Texas is more talented, clearly, and if they get a lead and can lean on him and run the ball, it could be trouble.