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Here we go. It's hour two and a Monday, live in Los Angeles. It's The Herd. Wherever you may be and however you may be listening. Thanks for making us part of your day if you're just tuning in. Mike McCarthy and the Cowboys have agreed to part ways. It came down to years, not money, meaning, Jerry said. Jerry and Mike came to terms with money. But Mike McCarthy has a new agent, Don Yee, who I know a little bit, highly respected, highly cerebral, knows how to market his guys. He had Brady for years. He may still have Tom. I think he told McCarthy asked for the moon. You're the best coaching candidate out there now that Rabel's signed. In fact, you got a ring and Mike Brabel doesn't as a head coach and I think the Cowboys. Jerry didn't want to pay him for five years, and McCarthy smartly said, I'm looking at my roster in Philadelphia's. I'm not signing a three or four year deal. This is a rebuild. And if you're the GM, Jerry, I want five years, and Jerry didn't want it. Mike McCarthy wins, All right, we do it. On Mondays, Colin was right, Colin was wrong. Here we go.

Here we go. It's hour two and a Monday, live in Los Angeles. It's The Herd. Wherever you may be and however you may be listening. Thanks for making us part of your day if you're just tuning in. Mike McCarthy and the Cowboys have agreed to part ways. It came down to years, not money, meaning, Jerry said. Jerry and Mike came to terms with money. But Mike McCarthy has a new agent, Don Yee, who I know a little bit, highly respected, highly cerebral, knows how to market his guys. He had Brady for years. He may still have Tom. I think he told McCarthy asked for the moon. You're the best coaching candidate out there now that Rabel's signed. In fact, you got a ring and Mike Brabel doesn't as a head coach and I think the Cowboys. Jerry didn't want to pay him for five years, and McCarthy smartly said, I'm looking at my roster in Philadelphia's. I'm not signing a three or four year deal. This is a rebuild. And if you're the GM, Jerry, I want five years, and Jerry didn't want it. Mike McCarthy wins, All right, we do it. On Mondays, Colin was right, Colin was wrong. Here we go.

Where Colin was right.

Where Colin was right.

I picked the Washington Commanders as my surprise playoff team in the NFL. I didn't know if they'd win a game, but they did. I love Dan Quinn, Cliff Kingsbury, Jaden Daniels. I thought it worked, and I thought their division had a couple of teams in the Giants in Dallas with the week rosters. I said Friday, I don't think they're as good as Tampa. I don't think they'll win, but if they do, it's because of, singularly Jaden Daniels. And that's exactly what happened.

I picked the Washington Commanders as my surprise playoff team in the NFL. I didn't know if they'd win a game, but they did. I love Dan Quinn, Cliff Kingsbury, Jaden Daniels. I thought it worked, and I thought their division had a couple of teams in the Giants in Dallas with the week rosters. I said Friday, I don't think they're as good as Tampa. I don't think they'll win, but if they do, it's because of, singularly Jaden Daniels. And that's exactly what happened.

Where Colin was row.

Where Colin was row.

I got a little too high on Jordan Love j Max scolded me the entire season, But you know what I thought after that, green Bay Dallas performance. I thought this guy is gonna be great, and it was a roller coaster year. Three picks against Philly. I was told out of college by a GMI trust that he thought he was a little loose and he wasn't sure you could coach that out of him. But if you count the playoff game in Philly, he ended up with fourteen picks and the nineteenth highest passer rating in the NFL. I think he needs an off season with Matt Lafleur to clean it up. I still like him a lot, but I was a little too high on him, where Colin was right. Mike Rabel to the Patriots, I said Friday, Rabel's the best candidate, Patriots the best job. This is an easy one. People always say you can't go home again, but this is the only opening where you get two things that are necessary, and they get both a stable owner with championship pedigree and and a young quarterback on a rookie deal that shows great promise. Now, I mean, I guess you could say Washington, but we didn't know much about the new owner. We know Robert Kraft. This makes a lot of sense. I think he's gonna win in fact, I think New England next year. You think I'm crazy. I think they'll battle for a playoff spot, a wild card playoff spot. You can always get better on the perimeter, faster than you can on the lines. You can go get corners, you can go get wide receivers in the draft. This is the best running back draft in a decade, and there's tons of receivers. I think he's a culture builder. I think it's perfect where Colin was wrong, justin Herbert Listen. You know I love him, but that was a stinker. Now, former Charger Dan Fouts had his worst game as a pro in the playoffs. But if you take out one pass to Lad McConkey, they didn't do anything. And I love him, but he was off in two playoffs starts. I've got to be honest. He has a passer rating a sixty and has completed only fifty two percent of his throws. I still think he's great, but you know what, your legacy gets cemented and regresses in the playoffs, and he needs a really great playoff performance. Two trips, two ugly ones.

I got a little too high on Jordan Love j Max scolded me the entire season, But you know what I thought after that, green Bay Dallas performance. I thought this guy is gonna be great, and it was a roller coaster year. Three picks against Philly. I was told out of college by a GMI trust that he thought he was a little loose and he wasn't sure you could coach that out of him. But if you count the playoff game in Philly, he ended up with fourteen picks and the nineteenth highest passer rating in the NFL. I think he needs an off season with Matt Lafleur to clean it up. I still like him a lot, but I was a little too high on him, where Colin was right. Mike Rabel to the Patriots, I said Friday, Rabel's the best candidate, Patriots the best job. This is an easy one. People always say you can't go home again, but this is the only opening where you get two things that are necessary, and they get both a stable owner with championship pedigree and and a young quarterback on a rookie deal that shows great promise. Now, I mean, I guess you could say Washington, but we didn't know much about the new owner. We know Robert Kraft. This makes a lot of sense. I think he's gonna win in fact, I think New England next year. You think I'm crazy. I think they'll battle for a playoff spot, a wild card playoff spot. You can always get better on the perimeter, faster than you can on the lines. You can go get corners, you can go get wide receivers in the draft. This is the best running back draft in a decade, and there's tons of receivers. I think he's a culture builder. I think it's perfect where Colin was wrong, justin Herbert Listen. You know I love him, but that was a stinker. Now, former Charger Dan Fouts had his worst game as a pro in the playoffs. But if you take out one pass to Lad McConkey, they didn't do anything. And I love him, but he was off in two playoffs starts. I've got to be honest. He has a passer rating a sixty and has completed only fifty two percent of his throws. I still think he's great, but you know what, your legacy gets cemented and regresses in the playoffs, and he needs a really great playoff performance. Two trips, two ugly ones.

Where Colin was right.

Where Colin was right.

Ohio State. I picked them to be in the National Championship before the year, I said they would lose at Odson and beat Oregon the next time. And I also said, even after they beat Michigan, I still think they're one of the top two teams in the country. I think they're gonna beat Notre Dame and I like Notre Dame a lot. But Ryan Day and Chip Kelly that Michigan loss was jet fuel. They are playing tremendous football. Will Howard after a bad Michigan game is on it. I don't. I mean, listen, their O line isn't all time stuff, and the Buckeyes usually have great old lines. But running back receiver Will Howard coaching there. There's nothing not to like here, and it just proves rivalries are great. But Nick Saban won a Natty one year after losing to Auburn. It comes in Ohio State. You got to move past the Michigan game sometimes this team. The Michigan loss actually was a catalyst for this performance where Colin was raw. Listen, I had the Longhorns winning the National championship and they lost twice to Georgia, once to Ohio State, and they should have lost Arizona State situationally, and I think Sarks a very good coach, but boys situationally, they made some calls. I did not love running outside on that goal line. Play was not didn't work for me. I think they got the most out of Quinn Yeers. I think he is what he is. Arch Manning will start this point forward, But watching that game, I never felt Texas was as good as Ohio State. And maybe it just comes down to personnel. But I had them winning the Natty and I'm wrong where Colin was right. I've been saying this now for several years. I like Mike Tomlin, and he's great as an underdog coach, but when they lose effort, you're in trouble because offensively, he can't figure out offensive lines. They're offensive lines again seven straight year. They can't establish a run game, and again they'll lead the NFL in defensive spending. I think he's a good football coach, but I think even good football coaches sometimes need a fresh start. And again I would hire Mike Tomlin. I mean, if if the Cowboys called now that McCarthy's leaving, I'd hire Mike Tomlin. I think he's a good coach. I think the Pittsburgh thing, I think they need to reboot and I think Mike Tomlin does too. Where Colin was right, Lamar Jackson won his third playoff game. Listen, I know, I know, but he can't beat Kansas City, and nobody could beat Tiger Woods in his prime or Michael Jordan when he got to the finals. Sometimes winning in the playoffs against the greatest quarterback playing in the sport is really hard. But I think Lamar once again one hundred and thirty two passer rating two TV's no picks without Zay Flowers. I mean they they knew. Everybody in the ballpark knows they don't have they don't have a receiver. It's Mark Edwards, Dereck Henry and Lamar didn't matter, poised great. We got to stop the Lamar Jackson stuff. Yeah, he struggles against Kansas City, the world struggled against MJ Like Phil Micholson's an all timer, couldn't be Tiger much. I still think Lamar Jackson is really really special. Colin Wright, Colin wrong, and with that eighteen years in the NFL, three Pro Bowls, Super Bowls as well, Matt hasselbal Let's first address, Mike McCarthy. You know, generally in this sport, players occasionally have leverage. You guys do occasionally. Coaches don't, almost never gms don't. I kind of feel like Mike McCarthy after Vrabel signed, he and his agent went, you know, Jerry, we want five years guaranteed. It feels like and I don't I think Mike's a good coach. Matt, what do you make of it? And what do you make of Mike?

Ohio State. I picked them to be in the National Championship before the year, I said they would lose at Odson and beat Oregon the next time. And I also said, even after they beat Michigan, I still think they're one of the top two teams in the country. I think they're gonna beat Notre Dame and I like Notre Dame a lot. But Ryan Day and Chip Kelly that Michigan loss was jet fuel. They are playing tremendous football. Will Howard after a bad Michigan game is on it. I don't. I mean, listen, their O line isn't all time stuff, and the Buckeyes usually have great old lines. But running back receiver Will Howard coaching there. There's nothing not to like here, and it just proves rivalries are great. But Nick Saban won a Natty one year after losing to Auburn. It comes in Ohio State. You got to move past the Michigan game sometimes this team. The Michigan loss actually was a catalyst for this performance where Colin was raw. Listen, I had the Longhorns winning the National championship and they lost twice to Georgia, once to Ohio State, and they should have lost Arizona State situationally, and I think Sarks a very good coach, but boys situationally, they made some calls. I did not love running outside on that goal line. Play was not didn't work for me. I think they got the most out of Quinn Yeers. I think he is what he is. Arch Manning will start this point forward, But watching that game, I never felt Texas was as good as Ohio State. And maybe it just comes down to personnel. But I had them winning the Natty and I'm wrong where Colin was right. I've been saying this now for several years. I like Mike Tomlin, and he's great as an underdog coach, but when they lose effort, you're in trouble because offensively, he can't figure out offensive lines. They're offensive lines again seven straight year. They can't establish a run game, and again they'll lead the NFL in defensive spending. I think he's a good football coach, but I think even good football coaches sometimes need a fresh start. And again I would hire Mike Tomlin. I mean, if if the Cowboys called now that McCarthy's leaving, I'd hire Mike Tomlin. I think he's a good coach. I think the Pittsburgh thing, I think they need to reboot and I think Mike Tomlin does too. Where Colin was right, Lamar Jackson won his third playoff game. Listen, I know, I know, but he can't beat Kansas City, and nobody could beat Tiger Woods in his prime or Michael Jordan when he got to the finals. Sometimes winning in the playoffs against the greatest quarterback playing in the sport is really hard. But I think Lamar once again one hundred and thirty two passer rating two TV's no picks without Zay Flowers. I mean they they knew. Everybody in the ballpark knows they don't have they don't have a receiver. It's Mark Edwards, Dereck Henry and Lamar didn't matter, poised great. We got to stop the Lamar Jackson stuff. Yeah, he struggles against Kansas City, the world struggled against MJ Like Phil Micholson's an all timer, couldn't be Tiger much. I still think Lamar Jackson is really really special. Colin Wright, Colin wrong, and with that eighteen years in the NFL, three Pro Bowls, Super Bowls as well, Matt hasselbal Let's first address, Mike McCarthy. You know, generally in this sport, players occasionally have leverage. You guys do occasionally. Coaches don't, almost never gms don't. I kind of feel like Mike McCarthy after Vrabel signed, he and his agent went, you know, Jerry, we want five years guaranteed. It feels like and I don't I think Mike's a good coach. Matt, what do you make of it? And what do you make of Mike?

Yeah, there's no doubt. I think I think he's a great coach.

Yeah, there's no doubt. I think I think he's a great coach.

You know, this is kind of one of those things in negotiating, it feels like Mike McCarthy's just kind of betting on himself. You know, he looks out there, he realizes what he is as a coach and what his resume is, and then also, I think, probably most importantly, his resume working with quarterbacks. His first ever quarterback coaching job in the NFL was with the Kansas City Chiefs coaching Joe Montana. And it started with Joe Montana and it runs right through look it up. It's pretty impressive. Brett Favre, Aaron Rodgers, and so like, I think if you think about the jobs that are out there and the quarterback help that needs to happen, Micha McCarthy's the perfect guy. And I think when it comes to these negotiations as well, he's not just thinking about himself. He's thinking about the job security of his entire staff. And that's probably where he kind of bowed up for his staff and said, Hey.

You know, this is kind of one of those things in negotiating, it feels like Mike McCarthy's just kind of betting on himself. You know, he looks out there, he realizes what he is as a coach and what his resume is, and then also, I think, probably most importantly, his resume working with quarterbacks. His first ever quarterback coaching job in the NFL was with the Kansas City Chiefs coaching Joe Montana. And it started with Joe Montana and it runs right through look it up. It's pretty impressive. Brett Favre, Aaron Rodgers, and so like, I think if you think about the jobs that are out there and the quarterback help that needs to happen, Micha McCarthy's the perfect guy. And I think when it comes to these negotiations as well, he's not just thinking about himself. He's thinking about the job security of his entire staff. And that's probably where he kind of bowed up for his staff and said, Hey.

You know, we want more, We want more commitment than you're offering for the rest of the guys here.

You know, we want more, We want more commitment than you're offering for the rest of the guys here.

And I think the coaching staff appreciates that as well, and I think you'll get a lot of the best coaches to come with him.

And I think the coaching staff appreciates that as well, and I think you'll get a lot of the best coaches to come with him.

Yeah, that's really interesting. I said this last week, Matt, and I made me off my rocker, but I said, the public loves two kind of coaches, the hip, young ones, you know, Sean McVay, Mike McDaniel, the cool guys, and they liked the old Alphas. They liked Rabel and Dan Campbell. And I'm like, he's not really either. He's just a really good coach among players. How is he viewed like like what's his little secret sauce because he wins with everybody, including Cooper Rush.

Yeah, that's really interesting. I said this last week, Matt, and I made me off my rocker, but I said, the public loves two kind of coaches, the hip, young ones, you know, Sean McVay, Mike McDaniel, the cool guys, and they liked the old Alphas. They liked Rabel and Dan Campbell. And I'm like, he's not really either. He's just a really good coach among players. How is he viewed like like what's his little secret sauce because he wins with everybody, including Cooper Rush.

Yeah, listen, he was my quarterback coach early in Green Bay when Ray Rhodes was the head coach actually, and it was kind of miserable to have him as a position coach because he worked us so hard, you know, so like I mean that, I guess it's a compliment, like it was tough. But he was a great teacher, and I think he was a great developer. Like he developed the roster Brett fav was the starting quarterback, but he was developing me, some kid off the practice squad the year before. He was developing Aaron Brooks, a late round pick that later became his starting quarterback when he was the offensive coordinator for the New Orleans Saints. So, you know, teacher, developer, those are all things you're looking for in a coach.

Yeah, listen, he was my quarterback coach early in Green Bay when Ray Rhodes was the head coach actually, and it was kind of miserable to have him as a position coach because he worked us so hard, you know, so like I mean that, I guess it's a compliment, like it was tough. But he was a great teacher, and I think he was a great developer. Like he developed the roster Brett fav was the starting quarterback, but he was developing me, some kid off the practice squad the year before. He was developing Aaron Brooks, a late round pick that later became his starting quarterback when he was the offensive coordinator for the New Orleans Saints. So, you know, teacher, developer, those are all things you're looking for in a coach.

And then I think at some level you have to be able to, you know.

And then I think at some level you have to be able to, you know.

Push a guy and inspire a team or the guys that you're with to think bigger than they're actually thinking for themselves. I know he did that for me personally, and so just take that as a position coach, as a coordinator, and just move it up to the head coach. That's really what you are doing for the team when you talk to the team. And then I think one of the most underrated parts of being the head coach, yes, game management.

Push a guy and inspire a team or the guys that you're with to think bigger than they're actually thinking for themselves. I know he did that for me personally, and so just take that as a position coach, as a coordinator, and just move it up to the head coach. That's really what you are doing for the team when you talk to the team. And then I think one of the most underrated parts of being the head coach, yes, game management.

That's important. Everybody knows about that.

That's important. Everybody knows about that.

But handling the bullets at the podium at the press conference, when adversity strikes, when there's drama around your team, being the guy that takes the blame, being the guy that deflects the credit. He's got a lot of experience at the podium that way. Some head coaches they can coach, but they can't handle the podium. And for that reason, I think you've got a proven commodity and Mike McCarthy here.

But handling the bullets at the podium at the press conference, when adversity strikes, when there's drama around your team, being the guy that takes the blame, being the guy that deflects the credit. He's got a lot of experience at the podium that way. Some head coaches they can coach, but they can't handle the podium. And for that reason, I think you've got a proven commodity and Mike McCarthy here.

Okay, I know you love your Eagles, but they've got Jalen Hurtskwon Barkley, the best all line, two good receivers, Dallas Goddard, and they were two for eleven on third down. I watched them.

Okay, I know you love your Eagles, but they've got Jalen Hurtskwon Barkley, the best all line, two good receivers, Dallas Goddard, and they were two for eleven on third down. I watched them.

Yeah it was bad.

Yeah it was bad.

I mean bad.

I mean bad.

Well, when you watch it, is it fair to say they're really led by Saquon Barkley, not the quarterback. That's kind of what I feel like.

Well, when you watch it, is it fair to say they're really led by Saquon Barkley, not the quarterback. That's kind of what I feel like.

You know, I just think they're a team.

You know, I just think they're a team.

You know, I really think they're a team, and I think the unselfishness of Saquon Barkley is uh is like, you need more.

You know, I really think they're a team, and I think the unselfishness of Saquon Barkley is uh is like, you need more.

Guys to have that mindset.

Guys to have that mindset.

Listen, I've been on this team this entire year, I like this team, I like the quarterback. The quarterback did not play well. I mean you could pretend like he played great.

Listen, I've been on this team this entire year, I like this team, I like the quarterback. The quarterback did not play well. I mean you could pretend like he played great.

He didn't. But I would just say this, having.

He didn't. But I would just say this, having.

Been a quarterback who's come out of concussion protocol. It's one thing to pass concussion protocol. It's a whole another thing to feel like you are really absolutely one hundred percent yourself. And so like I saw a guy that was maybe a little tentative, maybe a little bit slower than normal, maybe just didn't have that same like something just felt off to me.

Been a quarterback who's come out of concussion protocol. It's one thing to pass concussion protocol. It's a whole another thing to feel like you are really absolutely one hundred percent yourself. And so like I saw a guy that was maybe a little tentative, maybe a little bit slower than normal, maybe just didn't have that same like something just felt off to me.

So if I'm just speaking.

So if I'm just speaking.

Anecdotally for myself or what it was like for me coming out of those situations, you know, that first game back usually wasn't my best, And you know, maybe this next week he'll feel more like himself, He'll look more like himself, and the Eagles are gonna need him to be that way to get the win because it's gonna take more than what they had offensively in the passing game this week.

Anecdotally for myself or what it was like for me coming out of those situations, you know, that first game back usually wasn't my best, And you know, maybe this next week he'll feel more like himself, He'll look more like himself, and the Eagles are gonna need him to be that way to get the win because it's gonna take more than what they had offensively in the passing game this week.

I don't I said, if you look at the history of the NFL and you talk all time stuff, and I'm talking forar of Peyton Mahomes, I mean, like all time stuff, you could argue there's been fifteen or sixteen of those quarterbacks that are just different. I don't know how Jaden Daniels as a rookie is this good laden games? Is it cognitive? Is it intuitive? Is it just innate? Matt he looks calmer. This is very Mahomes. Remember Mahomes first couple of years, we were like you could never tell what the score was. He was as good trailing as he was leading. And it was just like it almost like he just kind of privately shifted gear and was more accurate in crisis. I don't even know what to make of jad and Daniels. I mean, what do you see.

I don't I said, if you look at the history of the NFL and you talk all time stuff, and I'm talking forar of Peyton Mahomes, I mean, like all time stuff, you could argue there's been fifteen or sixteen of those quarterbacks that are just different. I don't know how Jaden Daniels as a rookie is this good laden games? Is it cognitive? Is it intuitive? Is it just innate? Matt he looks calmer. This is very Mahomes. Remember Mahomes first couple of years, we were like you could never tell what the score was. He was as good trailing as he was leading. And it was just like it almost like he just kind of privately shifted gear and was more accurate in crisis. I don't even know what to make of jad and Daniels. I mean, what do you see.

That he's unfazed and and he's really unbelievable, Like in the pressure moments, not only does his team believe in him, does everyone at home believe like, yeah, he's gonna get it done. I really believe the opponent thinks like, ah, here we go again. You know, we gave him too much time the balls in his hands, and that's as a runner or as a thrower. And you know some of those great quarterbacks you mentioned Mahomes, Like, I'm as big a Mahomes fan as you could possibly be, but like he's got that emotional like roller coaster he gets, you know, he gets into it with officials and he's yelling and he's you know, I feel like Andy Reid's got to put his hands on his shoulders sometimes and be like, hey, I'm down, take a deep breath. Yeah, and you know, like that's great. You can be that way. Jaden doesn't seem that way, like up down, high low, game winner.

That he's unfazed and and he's really unbelievable, Like in the pressure moments, not only does his team believe in him, does everyone at home believe like, yeah, he's gonna get it done. I really believe the opponent thinks like, ah, here we go again. You know, we gave him too much time the balls in his hands, and that's as a runner or as a thrower. And you know some of those great quarterbacks you mentioned Mahomes, Like, I'm as big a Mahomes fan as you could possibly be, but like he's got that emotional like roller coaster he gets, you know, he gets into it with officials and he's yelling and he's you know, I feel like Andy Reid's got to put his hands on his shoulders sometimes and be like, hey, I'm down, take a deep breath. Yeah, and you know, like that's great. You can be that way. Jaden doesn't seem that way, like up down, high low, game winner.

He's just kind of like he's just cool.

He's just kind of like he's just cool.

He's just medium, as they say, and and that's fine. Like I just I think, to me, to me, I talk about it like all the time, the quarterback position. When you get that right, it could be you're you now are amazing marin aasauce over yesterday's pasta.

He's just medium, as they say, and and that's fine. Like I just I think, to me, to me, I talk about it like all the time, the quarterback position. When you get that right, it could be you're you now are amazing marin aasauce over yesterday's pasta.

You cover up for all bad play calls.

You cover up for all bad play calls.

Uh medium talent, miss block up front wide receiver, didn't run a great route, it's all of a sudden, a perfect throw.

Uh medium talent, miss block up front wide receiver, didn't run a great route, it's all of a sudden, a perfect throw.

Like he is that guy. He is everything you're looking for at a quarterback that way. So so look out.

Like he is that guy. He is everything you're looking for at a quarterback that way. So so look out.

I mean, you want to talk about a guy that can pull off an upset, Jayden Daniels is your guy.

I mean, you want to talk about a guy that can pull off an upset, Jayden Daniels is your guy.

So I got to ask you. I know, it's a it's a week off but Baltimore without Jay Flowers. Wow, uh, Buffalo, this is the most complete I would argue outside of Detroit and Philly, and maybe along with them James Cook, two tight ends, three receivers. You forget Amari Cooper's on the team, a great left tackle, Josh Allen. I don't know, I I I think Buffalo is the best team I've seen in the AFC. What do you expect in that game?

So I got to ask you. I know, it's a it's a week off but Baltimore without Jay Flowers. Wow, uh, Buffalo, this is the most complete I would argue outside of Detroit and Philly, and maybe along with them James Cook, two tight ends, three receivers. You forget Amari Cooper's on the team, a great left tackle, Josh Allen. I don't know, I I I think Buffalo is the best team I've seen in the AFC. What do you expect in that game?

Listen?

Listen?

I like Buffalo. I love the quarterback, I love the coach. I love a lot about what they're doing offensively. I don't like this matchup. I mean, the only good thing I can say really is that this time around, this game is in Buffalo. But if you go back and watch that game September twenty ninth, Buffalo goes to Baltimore, I mean that was a beat down. I mean it wasn't even really competitive, and so like matchup wise, you know, I just really think that they're going to have their hands full with the running game. You know, we're going to talk about Derek Henry, we talk about Lamar. I just think Todd Munkin in Baltimore. They're rolling right now. A lot of times you'll hear coaches say this, Hey, let's just get into the tournament and let's play our best football at the at the right time. I think that's what's happening for Baltimore right now. So quite honestly, this might be you know, the Super Bowl may happen a few weeks whatever. This might be the best game though. This might be the best game of the entire playoff. Two of the top quarterbacks. I just think that run game is going to be a real problem for Buffalo. They have to have a different game plan than they had the first time.

I like Buffalo. I love the quarterback, I love the coach. I love a lot about what they're doing offensively. I don't like this matchup. I mean, the only good thing I can say really is that this time around, this game is in Buffalo. But if you go back and watch that game September twenty ninth, Buffalo goes to Baltimore, I mean that was a beat down. I mean it wasn't even really competitive, and so like matchup wise, you know, I just really think that they're going to have their hands full with the running game. You know, we're going to talk about Derek Henry, we talk about Lamar. I just think Todd Munkin in Baltimore. They're rolling right now. A lot of times you'll hear coaches say this, Hey, let's just get into the tournament and let's play our best football at the at the right time. I think that's what's happening for Baltimore right now. So quite honestly, this might be you know, the Super Bowl may happen a few weeks whatever. This might be the best game though. This might be the best game of the entire playoff. Two of the top quarterbacks. I just think that run game is going to be a real problem for Buffalo. They have to have a different game plan than they had the first time.

Yeah, Dereck Henry is the opposite of most great backs. He wasn't great early in his career, but he's better as an old running back. Usually running backs have like six years of great and then they tail off. I don't know what he I mean, it's it's some vitamin program, but it is well.

Yeah, Dereck Henry is the opposite of most great backs. He wasn't great early in his career, but he's better as an old running back. Usually running backs have like six years of great and then they tail off. I don't know what he I mean, it's it's some vitamin program, but it is well.

It fits. It fits together because you have to.

It fits. It fits together because you have to.

You have to decide are we gonna honor the naked bootleg or are we gonna honor the zone read to the quarterback?

You have to decide are we gonna honor the naked bootleg or are we gonna honor the zone read to the quarterback?

Or are we going to commit an extra guy to Derrick Henry?

Or are we going to commit an extra guy to Derrick Henry?

And if one guy misses, he's out the gate And Todd Munkin's done a great job of having naked bootlegs and plays off of it. Direct snap I candy smoking mirrors to the quarterback running a jet suite. I mean, it all fits together right now, and it's just headaches. You can't play your normal NFL style defense against this offense.

And if one guy misses, he's out the gate And Todd Munkin's done a great job of having naked bootlegs and plays off of it. Direct snap I candy smoking mirrors to the quarterback running a jet suite. I mean, it all fits together right now, and it's just headaches. You can't play your normal NFL style defense against this offense.

Wow. Finally, I look, I look it over the landscape, and almost every quarterback outside of Jared Goff that is winning in this league moves. They all move. Mahomes moves, Hurts moves, Jaden moves. It's I look at this pocket thing, and I think, well, Brady won a bunch and GoF does have a great old line. But I'm watching Jaden last night and I'm thinking to myself, is the pocket court? I know you gotta throw from the pocket, but it felt like all weekend the mobility was a huge factor on third down for these teams. Do you feel like as a pocket you could move, but as a pocket guy that the game's just changed and you have to move to win the ring?

Wow. Finally, I look, I look it over the landscape, and almost every quarterback outside of Jared Goff that is winning in this league moves. They all move. Mahomes moves, Hurts moves, Jaden moves. It's I look at this pocket thing, and I think, well, Brady won a bunch and GoF does have a great old line. But I'm watching Jaden last night and I'm thinking to myself, is the pocket court? I know you gotta throw from the pocket, but it felt like all weekend the mobility was a huge factor on third down for these teams. Do you feel like as a pocket you could move, but as a pocket guy that the game's just changed and you have to move to win the ring?

I would agree with you.

I would agree with you.

I think the movement, the quarterback movement was a major factor this weekend. Big plays third down, fourth down, especially fourth down this week I thought that was a real factor. I would just say this though, I've heard that conversation for years and years and years, and I heard it.

I think the movement, the quarterback movement was a major factor this weekend. Big plays third down, fourth down, especially fourth down this week I thought that was a real factor. I would just say this though, I've heard that conversation for years and years and years, and I heard it.

All throughout the playoffs, and you saw a lot of it.

All throughout the playoffs, and you saw a lot of it.

And at the end of the year, it was a guy like Tom Brady or Nick Foles or somebody else, you know, having the great year. Matt Ryan had an MVP year. And so I don't think there's one way to skin a cat that way. I think quarterback movement keeps defensive coordinators up at night. You say, who would you rather defend? They don't want to defend a guy that can move around. But at the end of the day, it's the consistent delivering the ball on time, on the proper shoulder to convert third downs to win in the red area. I think that's that's probably the thing that's been true over time. But there's no doubt the creativity from the college game with these quarterbacks that can move and then the scramble drills. If you ask any decordinator, they want none of that.

And at the end of the year, it was a guy like Tom Brady or Nick Foles or somebody else, you know, having the great year. Matt Ryan had an MVP year. And so I don't think there's one way to skin a cat that way. I think quarterback movement keeps defensive coordinators up at night. You say, who would you rather defend? They don't want to defend a guy that can move around. But at the end of the day, it's the consistent delivering the ball on time, on the proper shoulder to convert third downs to win in the red area. I think that's that's probably the thing that's been true over time. But there's no doubt the creativity from the college game with these quarterbacks that can move and then the scramble drills. If you ask any decordinator, they want none of that.

Finally, Jimmy Johnson yesterday suggested McCarthy to Pittsburgh, Tomlin to Dallas. What do you make of that? It sounds fun, It's genius.

Finally, Jimmy Johnson yesterday suggested McCarthy to Pittsburgh, Tomlin to Dallas. What do you make of that? It sounds fun, It's genius.

I mean, that'd be super fun.

I mean, that'd be super fun.

There's nobody more Pittsburgh that I've ever met than Mike McCarthy. I mean that that dude loves Pittsburgh. But I just, you know, I think Mike Tomlin's an awesome coach. I think the talks of getting rid of Mike Tomlin are kind of ridiculous. The only way I think that that could work is if if Mike Tomlin wanted to wanted to change his scenery for some reason. I think he's a great coach. Changes need to need to happen, though, Like the effort in the pursuit that I saw defensively from from Pittsburgh yesterday, at times it looked like a Pro Bowl defense, like, you know, just tagging off, standing around the pile.

There's nobody more Pittsburgh that I've ever met than Mike McCarthy. I mean that that dude loves Pittsburgh. But I just, you know, I think Mike Tomlin's an awesome coach. I think the talks of getting rid of Mike Tomlin are kind of ridiculous. The only way I think that that could work is if if Mike Tomlin wanted to wanted to change his scenery for some reason. I think he's a great coach. Changes need to need to happen, though, Like the effort in the pursuit that I saw defensively from from Pittsburgh yesterday, at times it looked like a Pro Bowl defense, like, you know, just tagging off, standing around the pile.

I just didn't recognize it.

I just didn't recognize it.

Having gone against that team for many, many years, their defense was just always relentless, always tough, physical, flying around to the ball. You know, Like I used this quote before on defense, your love for your teammate and for what we're doing can be measured by how close you are to the ball when the whistle blows.

Having gone against that team for many, many years, their defense was just always relentless, always tough, physical, flying around to the ball. You know, Like I used this quote before on defense, your love for your teammate and for what we're doing can be measured by how close you are to the ball when the whistle blows.

And uh, you know, so I think that's got to get fixed.

And uh, you know, so I think that's got to get fixed.

I think If Mike Tomlin wants to stay, he's earned the right to be the guy to fix it.

I think If Mike Tomlin wants to stay, he's earned the right to be the guy to fix it.

Matt Hasselbeck, eighteen years in the NFL. Love having you on on a Monday, Thanks buddy.

Matt Hasselbeck, eighteen years in the NFL. Love having you on on a Monday, Thanks buddy.

All right, Sea going all right.

All right, Sea going all right.

Of all the players that come on and have rooms behind them, that's my favorite room. Even his room looks organized behind him. Mike McCarthy is available on the market. If I'm Chicago, I would offer him the job today. If I was the Chicago Bears, I'd offer him the job today. If I was the Pittsburgh Steelers who can't get their run game or all line right, I would offer Mike McCarthy the Steelers job today. Dallas, I think I look at Dallas and I think they don't have the personnel to match up with teams. So I may go Ben Johnson. I'm gonna need somebody that can innovate beyond my personnel. That's not really McCarthy. He's good, but I think Dallas may need an innovator. I mean, he can go to Dallas, but Dallas is personnel. And we've been on this all year. I don't like their roster, don't love it.

Of all the players that come on and have rooms behind them, that's my favorite room. Even his room looks organized behind him. Mike McCarthy is available on the market. If I'm Chicago, I would offer him the job today. If I was the Chicago Bears, I'd offer him the job today. If I was the Pittsburgh Steelers who can't get their run game or all line right, I would offer Mike McCarthy the Steelers job today. Dallas, I think I look at Dallas and I think they don't have the personnel to match up with teams. So I may go Ben Johnson. I'm gonna need somebody that can innovate beyond my personnel. That's not really McCarthy. He's good, but I think Dallas may need an innovator. I mean, he can go to Dallas, but Dallas is personnel. And we've been on this all year. I don't like their roster, don't love it.

Let me back up for a second, do the Bears need to wait to see what happens with Tomlin?

Let me back up for a second, do the Bears need to wait to see what happens with Tomlin?

Because I gotta be honest, I didn't. I thought the smoke was I.

Because I gotta be honest, I didn't. I thought the smoke was I.

Would take McCarthy over Tomlin because I've got listen, Tomlin can't figure out the Steelers old line. Job one in Chicago has fix that old line. It's been terrible for seven years. Coaches for the GM, well, Mike mcg andy, Reid and Sean McVay. I've watched them fix an offensive line and he.

Would take McCarthy over Tomlin because I've got listen, Tomlin can't figure out the Steelers old line. Job one in Chicago has fix that old line. It's been terrible for seven years. Coaches for the GM, well, Mike mcg andy, Reid and Sean McVay. I've watched them fix an offensive line and he.

Has a great GM. Come on, well, it is one of the best in the league.

Has a great GM. Come on, well, it is one of the best in the league.

Well, I'm just.

Well, I'm just.

We gotta stop comparing people to the Chiefs all weekend. People are well, justin Herbert through four Pixie stinks. He's not Patrick Mahomes yout.

We gotta stop comparing people to the Chiefs all weekend. People are well, justin Herbert through four Pixie stinks. He's not Patrick Mahomes yout.

No bleep Sherlock.

No bleep Sherlock.

We know that.

We know that.

Let's stop comparing teams to the chief eying lined up.

Let's stop comparing teams to the chief eying lined up.

Here's what the Bears haven't had a lot of Super Bowl winning coaches who get the most out of quarterbacks. They don't do that very often. Have they had tough defensive guys? Dave Wantstatt, Yeah, they've hadded defensive guys, and I don't think the Bears job is just about maximizing Caleb it. You know my rule in this game. Number one is get your quarterback. Chicago has it. Number two is protect your quarterback. Your old line is an insurance policy. And the Bears old line regressed significantly.

Here's what the Bears haven't had a lot of Super Bowl winning coaches who get the most out of quarterbacks. They don't do that very often. Have they had tough defensive guys? Dave Wantstatt, Yeah, they've hadded defensive guys, and I don't think the Bears job is just about maximizing Caleb it. You know my rule in this game. Number one is get your quarterback. Chicago has it. Number two is protect your quarterback. Your old line is an insurance policy. And the Bears old line regressed significantly.

This yay, So okay, Tomlin's not on the market.

This yay, So okay, Tomlin's not on the market.

But if something crazy and dumb happens, so all things being equal, Bears are cowboys.

But if something crazy and dumb happens, so all things being equal, Bears are cowboys.

Who has a better roster?

Who has a better roster?

Well Bears?

Well Bears?

Okay, no quest do the Bears need? I know you said offensive line, but don't they need a culture?

Okay, no quest do the Bears need? I know you said offensive line, but don't they need a culture?

This is twenty years.

This is twenty years.

I don't know what the Chicago Bears are. They don't have an identity and haven't for the longest time. Mike Tomlin, bringkay, But Mike Tomlin, we know his record. He's strong, he has he has tone deaf to offense.

I don't know what the Chicago Bears are. They don't have an identity and haven't for the longest time. Mike Tomlin, bringkay, But Mike Tomlin, we know his record. He's strong, he has he has tone deaf to offense.

Yeah, when you got Mason Rudolph and Russell.

Yeah, when you got Mason Rudolph and Russell.

His last five years with Big Ben, no playoffs, it.

His last five years with Big Ben, no playoffs, it.

Was kind of washt. He was always out of shape and he.

Was kind of washt. He was always out of shape and he.

Was in his last two years and they were a bottom ten offense in Big Ben's last three years. You got to fix that quarterback Carthy uh over Tomlin, listen, that's you don't have to love Mike McCarthy. But here's what Mike McCarthy has done. He has worked with Cooper Rush, Dak Farv, Joe Montana, Everybody, Aaron Rodgers, and Prickly. He's had different personalities, different styles with quarterbacks. He's worked with all of them, and I don't think it's a coincidence. I don't think it's a coincidence. He has the most.

Was in his last two years and they were a bottom ten offense in Big Ben's last three years. You got to fix that quarterback Carthy uh over Tomlin, listen, that's you don't have to love Mike McCarthy. But here's what Mike McCarthy has done. He has worked with Cooper Rush, Dak Farv, Joe Montana, Everybody, Aaron Rodgers, and Prickly. He's had different personalities, different styles with quarterbacks. He's worked with all of them, and I don't think it's a coincidence. I don't think it's a coincidence. He has the most.

Medaling owner and no owner in.

Medaling owner and no owner in.

Green Bay, and he worked with both, so he has owner sort of bandwidth.

Green Bay, and he worked with both, so he has owner sort of bandwidth.

Tell your boy West who put that on a poll? Who would you rather have in Chicago? Mike Tomlin or McCarthy. I think that's fat well.

Tell your boy West who put that on a poll? Who would you rather have in Chicago? Mike Tomlin or McCarthy. I think that's fat well.

But Tomlin's got that alpha thing and fans love in Chicago.

But Tomlin's got that alpha thing and fans love in Chicago.

I mean a heartbeat and no justice. I like McCarthy. I think I would take them with the Jets.

I mean a heartbeat and no justice. I like McCarthy. I think I would take them with the Jets.

Listen, the Chicago would probably hire Tomlin because they're still celebrating the eighty five Bears. No, I'm not joking. Like it's like everybody got a restaurant and a car dealership deal. It's they love defense in Chicago. The world. Look at your division, Kevin O'Connell, Matt Lafleur's. I mean it's like you gotta score points in this division. You gotta score points. You listen, It's just like if you're in a division with Mahomes or Josh Allen. That's Bill Belichick was overwhelmed by Josh Allen. Belichick he couldn't stop him. Bill, say what you want about quarterback. Belichick could not stop Josh Allen. Nobody's stopping Lamar Jackson consistently. You got to get that offense right, that O line right, get your quarterback, protect your quarterback, and then draft guys who go get their quarterback. If you just stay on that, you can find running backs, receivers and corners.

Listen, the Chicago would probably hire Tomlin because they're still celebrating the eighty five Bears. No, I'm not joking. Like it's like everybody got a restaurant and a car dealership deal. It's they love defense in Chicago. The world. Look at your division, Kevin O'Connell, Matt Lafleur's. I mean it's like you gotta score points in this division. You gotta score points. You listen, It's just like if you're in a division with Mahomes or Josh Allen. That's Bill Belichick was overwhelmed by Josh Allen. Belichick he couldn't stop him. Bill, say what you want about quarterback. Belichick could not stop Josh Allen. Nobody's stopping Lamar Jackson consistently. You got to get that offense right, that O line right, get your quarterback, protect your quarterback, and then draft guys who go get their quarterback. If you just stay on that, you can find running backs, receivers and corners.

Okay, so real quick, I know we gotta go to break Jets.

Okay, so real quick, I know we gotta go to break Jets.

If McCarthy and Tomlin are both there, who should the Jets go for?

If McCarthy and Tomlin are both there, who should the Jets go for?

And again, Tomlin's not there. I don't think.

And again, Tomlin's not there. I don't think.

McCarthy and Aaron Rodgers Again, well, I would go with Tomlin with the Jets. He's a no nonsense with Aaron Rodgers. Tomlin with the Jets is my choice. Tomlin with the Cowboys could be fine. He would McCarthy to the Bears or the Saints to me.

McCarthy and Aaron Rodgers Again, well, I would go with Tomlin with the Jets. He's a no nonsense with Aaron Rodgers. Tomlin with the Jets is my choice. Tomlin with the Cowboys could be fine. He would McCarthy to the Bears or the Saints to me.

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Some thoughts on the Green Bay Packers and a big change in the NFL that I love. But first, here's j Mack with the news.

Some thoughts on the Green Bay Packers and a big change in the NFL that I love. But first, here's j Mack with the news.

No, no, turn on the news. This is the Herd Line News.

No, no, turn on the news. This is the Herd Line News.

I don't think people get how fired up you are today. Cow Herd is really he's got a lot of material. Let's see what he has to say about the Patriots. Hiring Mike Rabel as the sixteenth head coach in franchise history. Happened over the weekend and he returns to New England, where he was an integral part of three Super Bowl championship teams, playing there for eight seasons.

I don't think people get how fired up you are today. Cow Herd is really he's got a lot of material. Let's see what he has to say about the Patriots. Hiring Mike Rabel as the sixteenth head coach in franchise history. Happened over the weekend and he returns to New England, where he was an integral part of three Super Bowl championship teams, playing there for eight seasons.

I was wrong.

I was wrong.

I thought he was going to the Raiders, But a nice job here by the Patriots to grab him. And Rabel talked about what makes the Patriots special.

I thought he was going to the Raiders, But a nice job here by the Patriots to grab him. And Rabel talked about what makes the Patriots special.

The people, the history, and not that the banners that hang in our stadium they're they're not going to help us win, but I think it's a great reminder of what it takes to win and the type of people that you haven't have to have in the organization, the selflessness that the work and the sacrifice that you have to make.

The people, the history, and not that the banners that hang in our stadium they're they're not going to help us win, but I think it's a great reminder of what it takes to win and the type of people that you haven't have to have in the organization, the selflessness that the work and the sacrifice that you have to make.

So to me, those are great reminders of what it takes.

So to me, those are great reminders of what it takes.

I think they're a playoff team. Next year I called the Commanders, I called the Rams, last year the Vikings. The year before Patriots make the playoffs. There's enough murky chaos in that division. Keep your eye. You can get better at wide receiver very quickly in this league.

I think they're a playoff team. Next year I called the Commanders, I called the Rams, last year the Vikings. The year before Patriots make the playoffs. There's enough murky chaos in that division. Keep your eye. You can get better at wide receiver very quickly in this league.

Okay, I'll take a counter. I'll go opposite here. I'm seeing in the notes.

Okay, I'll take a counter. I'll go opposite here. I'm seeing in the notes.

Josh McDaniel's a definite possibility for offensive court.

Josh McDaniel's a definite possibility for offensive court.

He's pretty good at that.

He's pretty good at that.

It's almost like the Patriots are running their organization like like like the Lakers have. Hey, we got to hire a Lakers guide. We got to do we got to keep it in house. Like there's this is almost more of the same. They're like extending the Belichick legacy.

It's almost like the Patriots are running their organization like like like the Lakers have. Hey, we got to hire a Lakers guide. We got to do we got to keep it in house. Like there's this is almost more of the same. They're like extending the Belichick legacy.

He he is the best coach on the market.

He he is the best coach on the market.

Based on what like I get it. He's high demand. Everybody wants him.

Based on what like I get it. He's high demand. Everybody wants him.

Okay, what he got Ryan Tannehill. Go look at the quarterbacks in the AFC. When he was getting Ryan Tannehill to the AFC Championship and a number eed. Now he lost also to Joe Burrow, but he was a number one seed and they did not have a number one roster. I first of all, at the end when they let go of AJ Brown. The minute they let go of A J. Brown, he was having trouble with people upstairs the GM. Yeah, and when they lost A J. Brown, Mike Rabel just you know what I mean, he knew. Everybody in the world knew. Okay, it's old for that's all they had offensively outside of Derrick Henry.

Okay, what he got Ryan Tannehill. Go look at the quarterbacks in the AFC. When he was getting Ryan Tannehill to the AFC Championship and a number eed. Now he lost also to Joe Burrow, but he was a number one seed and they did not have a number one roster. I first of all, at the end when they let go of AJ Brown. The minute they let go of A J. Brown, he was having trouble with people upstairs the GM. Yeah, and when they lost A J. Brown, Mike Rabel just you know what I mean, he knew. Everybody in the world knew. Okay, it's old for that's all they had offensively outside of Derrick Henry.

So I'm looking up his record here, Okay, Tennessee fifty four and forty five, two or three in the playoffs. Like I mean, he's been ahead coach six years. He had the one awesome season where they were the number one seed.

So I'm looking up his record here, Okay, Tennessee fifty four and forty five, two or three in the playoffs. Like I mean, he's been ahead coach six years. He had the one awesome season where they were the number one seed.

He won the division.

He won the division.

Have you ever thought of the Titans spectacularly run, brilliantly owned.

Have you ever thought of the Titans spectacularly run, brilliantly owned.

I don't know, No.

I don't know, No.

So he had a nice run. And I'm not poo pooing Brig. I think he's good. But this idea that they're going to the playoff.

So he had a nice run. And I'm not poo pooing Brig. I think he's good. But this idea that they're going to the playoff.

He won fifty percent of his games with Marcus Mariota and Ryan Tannehill. Marcus Mariota was like the second pick in the draft and Will Levis Oh my bad, I gotta throwing Will levit he didn't.

He won fifty percent of his games with Marcus Mariota and Ryan Tannehill. Marcus Mariota was like the second pick in the draft and Will Levis Oh my bad, I gotta throwing Will levit he didn't.

Okay, we should make this interesting.

Okay, we should make this interesting.

Do you want to? Yeah, I'll do it right now. Sorry, playoff team next, Okay, I'll get you a big old bag of Rhode Island oysters.

Do you want to? Yeah, I'll do it right now. Sorry, playoff team next, Okay, I'll get you a big old bag of Rhode Island oysters.

I do like oysters.

I do like oysters.

I'm gonna I think they're gonna be you guys all left. Houston did it, Chargers did it, Broncos did it, Commanders did it. If Drake May, who you liked a lot, you would have taken him number I liked.

I'm gonna I think they're gonna be you guys all left. Houston did it, Chargers did it, Broncos did it, Commanders did it. If Drake May, who you liked a lot, you would have taken him number I liked.

I was wrong.

I was wrong.

I still like to Jamis No, but he's still good.

I still like to Jamis No, but he's still good.

Oh okay, let me by the way, they got money to do this.

Oh okay, let me by the way, they got money to do this.

They got money.

They got money.

How about t Higgins to the Patriots? Maybe that would that would be good. Who's coming out of the playoffs?

How about t Higgins to the Patriots? Maybe that would that would be good. Who's coming out of the playoffs?

Who's stepping down because you're putting them in the playoffs.

Who's stepping down because you're putting them in the playoffs.

I think the Chiefs are gonna have a down year? How about this? How about this? I don't even want to answer that question.

I think the Chiefs are gonna have a down year? How about this? How about this? I don't even want to answer that question.

Oh yeah, of course I don't have an answer yet.

Oh yeah, of course I don't have an answer yet.

How about Steelers? Okay, the boom ate the test out, Ryan whispered, got in my ear. Thank you Ryan on the show? Has my back now? Getting doing a lot more than hockey scores over there.

How about Steelers? Okay, the boom ate the test out, Ryan whispered, got in my ear. Thank you Ryan on the show? Has my back now? Getting doing a lot more than hockey scores over there.

Oh boy, here we go. Next up is what are we doing?

Oh boy, here we go. Next up is what are we doing?

Oh oh, they sold MVP stuff between Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson, so both of them are battling for everything. Now they will face off in the divisional round matchup on Sunday.

Oh oh, they sold MVP stuff between Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson, so both of them are battling for everything. Now they will face off in the divisional round matchup on Sunday.

It's the night game. It's it's great. I'm surprised. Look at that line, Colin.

It's the night game. It's it's great. I'm surprised. Look at that line, Colin.

You're seeing that money coming in since the line opened all on the Ravens on the road.

You're seeing that money coming in since the line opened all on the Ravens on the road.

Well, here's the here's the thing that is that really makes you. Buffalo is gonna struggle with this run.

Well, here's the here's the thing that is that really makes you. Buffalo is gonna struggle with this run.

Game defensively in the front.

Game defensively in the front.

Yeah, it's this is not a great matchup. Now again it's at the Bills and Josh Allen like a Jayden Daniels can just be magical. I think this is a stay away game for me.

Yeah, it's this is not a great matchup. Now again it's at the Bills and Josh Allen like a Jayden Daniels can just be magical. I think this is a stay away game for me.

I have not bet this.

I have not bet this.

No, no, no to me. It's just like folks, when you get two great organizations and two superstar quarterbacks, you can't predict it. Now, if Dave Flowers doesn't play, I don't love that. But I think they look okay without it. No, no, but I again, that's Pittsburgh in this. I it's gonna be hard for me to bet against Josh Allen at home. Whoever wins this game, I'm totally happy. I do think Buffalo matches up better against the Chiefs.

No, no, no to me. It's just like folks, when you get two great organizations and two superstar quarterbacks, you can't predict it. Now, if Dave Flowers doesn't play, I don't love that. But I think they look okay without it. No, no, but I again, that's Pittsburgh in this. I it's gonna be hard for me to bet against Josh Allen at home. Whoever wins this game, I'm totally happy. I do think Buffalo matches up better against the Chiefs.

There you go, That's what I was headed to him.

There you go, That's what I was headed to him.

But the Buffalo matches up better with the Chiefs. They already beat him in a week eleven.

But the Buffalo matches up better with the Chiefs. They already beat him in a week eleven.

I did bet the other two games, but I'm leaning bills here, but.

I did bet the other two games, but I'm leaning bills here, but.

I don't have I don't have a cent on this. I mean, it's gonna be great. This is a great matchup.

I don't have I don't have a cent on this. I mean, it's gonna be great. This is a great matchup.

Whoever can beat the Chiefs. That's why I want to win. I'm so the Chiefs are waxing the Texans. Okay, that's that's gonna be a bloodbath. Final story, Colin, Let's go to the Raiders.

Whoever can beat the Chiefs. That's why I want to win. I'm so the Chiefs are waxing the Texans. Okay, that's that's gonna be a bloodbath. Final story, Colin, Let's go to the Raiders.

Now.

Now.

Would you have a Raiders fan on staff? So he's upset about this.

Would you have a Raiders fan on staff? So he's upset about this.

Deon Sanders is not going to be the next Raiders coach. According to multiple reports.

Deon Sanders is not going to be the next Raiders coach. According to multiple reports.

Prime has expressed interest in the job, but Las Vegas has quote zero interest in bringing deannaboard. Further reports indicate Ben Johnson is their target. He had a Zoom interview Friday. If Ben Johnson's their target, they're gonna be waiting maybe until the Super Bowl or after it because the Lions are looking good. Pete Carrol, the former USC Seahawks coach, is scheduled to interview.

Prime has expressed interest in the job, but Las Vegas has quote zero interest in bringing deannaboard. Further reports indicate Ben Johnson is their target. He had a Zoom interview Friday. If Ben Johnson's their target, they're gonna be waiting maybe until the Super Bowl or after it because the Lions are looking good. Pete Carrol, the former USC Seahawks coach, is scheduled to interview.

I don't think day Carroll's a bad call. There don't. I don't know if it's the best call, but I think Pete Carroll because you didn't get Rayble Brady couldn't talk you into that. And I mean, you know, Tom faced Pete Carroll in a Super Bowl, so he's seen that Pete Carroll defense.

I don't think day Carroll's a bad call. There don't. I don't know if it's the best call, but I think Pete Carroll because you didn't get Rayble Brady couldn't talk you into that. And I mean, you know, Tom faced Pete Carroll in a Super Bowl, so he's seen that Pete Carroll defense.

They shoved out the GM because they have something here. It's some kind of package deal.

They shoved out the GM because they have something here. It's some kind of package deal.

Right.

Right.

You don't wait a day then kick can the coach and wait another day, then fire the GM.

You don't wait a day then kick can the coach and wait another day, then fire the GM.

They got something cooked.

They got something cooked.

Up here, right.

Up here, right.

I I don't think Dion. You've been on Dion to the Raiders. I don't buy it. They've done the star coach, they did John Gruden, They've done that thing. They've done a dynasty coach. I would go. I think at this point they're going to get a quarterback. I would probably this is not a job i'd want. I'll probably go with the whiz kid. I would probably try to get the best offensive coordinator, try to get Liam Cohen from Tampa. If you want to get Aaron Glenn, I think Aaron Glenn's better than this job. But I could see handing it over. If you're in a division with Sean Payton, Jim Harbon, Andy Reid, you better get a clever offensive coach.

I I don't think Dion. You've been on Dion to the Raiders. I don't buy it. They've done the star coach, they did John Gruden, They've done that thing. They've done a dynasty coach. I would go. I think at this point they're going to get a quarterback. I would probably this is not a job i'd want. I'll probably go with the whiz kid. I would probably try to get the best offensive coordinator, try to get Liam Cohen from Tampa. If you want to get Aaron Glenn, I think Aaron Glenn's better than this job. But I could see handing it over. If you're in a division with Sean Payton, Jim Harbon, Andy Reid, you better get a clever offensive coach.

So I missed this.

So I missed this.

This is just a brick in handicapping who's going to get the Raiders' job.

This is just a brick in handicapping who's going to get the Raiders' job.

I had forgotten how bad.

I had forgotten how bad.

The Josh McDaniels experience was there, So I guess Mark daniels was scarred by that.

The Josh McDaniels experience was there, So I guess Mark daniels was scarred by that.

And he's like, I'm not doing Patriot wanning. So we were off on that. I mean, I just totally missed.

And he's like, I'm not doing Patriot wanning. So we were off on that. I mean, I just totally missed.

You.

You.

Remember McDaniels was there and it just yeah, it didn't work. What spiral quickly? And he doesn't want to do what other Patriots got. Ben Johnson is obviously a hot name here. Is there a college guy who gets you excited a Sark?

Remember McDaniels was there and it just yeah, it didn't work. What spiral quickly? And he doesn't want to do what other Patriots got. Ben Johnson is obviously a hot name here. Is there a college guy who gets you excited a Sark?

If you will to Vegas?

If you will to Vegas?

What about Ryan Day and Chip Kelly? Is a package deal after they win the national championship.

What about Ryan Day and Chip Kelly? Is a package deal after they win the national championship.

That's not terrible, that's interesting, Sark.

That's not terrible, that's interesting, Sark.

Listen, Sark's got the best college job, arguably in the country. I'm not taking the Raiders job. Yeah, if you offered me the Bears job that I'm interested in, if I'm sark, that interests me. But I'm not going take it to me. The Raiders is the worst job.

Listen, Sark's got the best college job, arguably in the country. I'm not taking the Raiders job. Yeah, if you offered me the Bears job that I'm interested in, if I'm sark, that interests me. But I'm not going take it to me. The Raiders is the worst job.

Worse than the Saints. Yep, stop, come.

Worse than the Saints. Yep, stop, come.

On, I got Saints have. The Benson family does not run through coaches. They gave Dennis Allen an extra year that I wouldn't have. Mickey Loomis is good.

On, I got Saints have. The Benson family does not run through coaches. They gave Dennis Allen an extra year that I wouldn't have. Mickey Loomis is good.

That's their judgment is cloudy.

That's their judgment is cloudy.

They don't have any cap space. But I I'll feel their.

They don't have any cap space. But I I'll feel their.

Their rosters rut it right now.

Their rosters rut it right now.

The man some of these they moved off Zach Bond and they'd all pro with the Eagles, the guys everywhere, like just some of these personal decisions. I don't love what's going on with the Saints. I think people are maybe sleeping on the Jags is a potential good job. I would go Trevor Lawrence down. Balky obviously is.

The man some of these they moved off Zach Bond and they'd all pro with the Eagles, the guys everywhere, like just some of these personal decisions. I don't love what's going on with the Saints. I think people are maybe sleeping on the Jags is a potential good job. I would go Trevor Lawrence down. Balky obviously is.

I would not go there. Trent Balkey and Harball could not get along. I don't like, you know, Harball was doing too much winning for him.

I would not go there. Trent Balkey and Harball could not get along. I don't like, you know, Harball was doing too much winning for him.

It's funny how all these have like major red flags.

It's funny how all these have like major red flags.

Look at all those teams now they do They're bad teams, bad organizations.

Look at all those teams now they do They're bad teams, bad organizations.

There's a reason they have a job opening. H J Mack with a news.

There's a reason they have a job opening. H J Mack with a news.

Well, that's the news and thanks for stopping by.

Well, that's the news and thanks for stopping by.

The Rabel got the best job in my opinion, Mike McCarthy. I think the Bears is the second best job I'd hire. Mike McCarthy. Uh, Tomlin May. I just can't see Pittsburgh making a move. Some thoughts on the Packers and a a change in the NFL this weekend, and I think it's pretty clear. Get ahead of it, not behind it.

The Rabel got the best job in my opinion, Mike McCarthy. I think the Bears is the second best job I'd hire. Mike McCarthy. Uh, Tomlin May. I just can't see Pittsburgh making a move. Some thoughts on the Packers and a a change in the NFL this weekend, and I think it's pretty clear. Get ahead of it, not behind it.

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