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Here we Go, hour two and a Monday, Matt Hasselbeck here in studio in about five minutes, live in Los Angeles. It's the Herd wherever you may be and however you may be listening. Thanks for making us part of your day. I have terrible peripheral vision, apparently because he was right next to me. I had no idea it was going to stop by today. He was with his wife seeing their kids, and he gets stole chowping on sit in our studio today, which is always fun for us when you get a Brady breeze. Hassle Beck, guy's gotta sit in our studio.

Here we Go, hour two and a Monday, Matt Hasselbeck here in studio in about five minutes, live in Los Angeles. It's the Herd wherever you may be and however you may be listening. Thanks for making us part of your day. I have terrible peripheral vision, apparently because he was right next to me. I had no idea it was going to stop by today. He was with his wife seeing their kids, and he gets stole chowping on sit in our studio today, which is always fun for us when you get a Brady breeze. Hassle Beck, guy's gotta sit in our studio.

And j Mac.

And j Mac.

I don't know how good your weekend was, but UH had a pretty good weekend.

I don't know how good your weekend was, but UH had a pretty good weekend.

Oh really?

Oh really?

Flexing on the game undefeated.

Flexing on the game undefeated.

I have the Jets to night undefeated, three and zero.

I have the Jets to night undefeated, three and zero.

Maybe you should do blazon four now instead of blazing Five's a good idea.

Maybe you should do blazon four now instead of blazing Five's a good idea.

I don't want to short change America, but I generally don't have five good picks. But uh, you know what, I should do that, just because I already know my bets. Minnesota off of bye against Detroit, off a blowout win, Detroit will comeback to earth. Minnesota is so well coached. Rams off of bye New York jobs like you guys can all bang on the Giants. Cincinnati had to win that game. They didn't have elak neighbors. I think. I think that coach is excellent. They don't have much to work with. I think he's really good. All right, we do it every Monday. It's called right wrong.

I don't want to short change America, but I generally don't have five good picks. But uh, you know what, I should do that, just because I already know my bets. Minnesota off of bye against Detroit, off a blowout win, Detroit will comeback to earth. Minnesota is so well coached. Rams off of bye New York jobs like you guys can all bang on the Giants. Cincinnati had to win that game. They didn't have elak neighbors. I think. I think that coach is excellent. They don't have much to work with. I think he's really good. All right, we do it every Monday. It's called right wrong.

Let's go where Colin was right well, I said.

Let's go where Colin was right well, I said.

This week with Detroit, the Cowboys oil leak and regression as a franchise would begin this weekend. I think their rosters average. I think in a weapons league they have one great weapon, CD Land. I think you can't have an eighty two year old general manager. There's too many jones Is in the building. They need outside influence. They're too insular. They remind me a lot of the Lakers with one or two great players, and that's it. This is what I told you. I thought they'd finished third in division as of this morning, that's where they're going to finish. We were right on the Cowboys where Colin was wrong. Was I wrong on Lincoln Riley five and eight in his last thirteen games. They just don't have enough top talent. Considering their NIL is fortified at about thirteen million a year, they have a huge brand. I like their wide receivers. I think their secondary is the best it has been in years. But there's just no there there. They don't feel terribly resilient. Situationally, they're okay. They are very very young, but letting Penn States tight end have seventeen catches is absolutely absurd.

This week with Detroit, the Cowboys oil leak and regression as a franchise would begin this weekend. I think their rosters average. I think in a weapons league they have one great weapon, CD Land. I think you can't have an eighty two year old general manager. There's too many jones Is in the building. They need outside influence. They're too insular. They remind me a lot of the Lakers with one or two great players, and that's it. This is what I told you. I thought they'd finished third in division as of this morning, that's where they're going to finish. We were right on the Cowboys where Colin was wrong. Was I wrong on Lincoln Riley five and eight in his last thirteen games. They just don't have enough top talent. Considering their NIL is fortified at about thirteen million a year, they have a huge brand. I like their wide receivers. I think their secondary is the best it has been in years. But there's just no there there. They don't feel terribly resilient. Situationally, they're okay. They are very very young, but letting Penn States tight end have seventeen catches is absolutely absurd.

I was wrong where Colin was right.

I was wrong where Colin was right.

When the Ravens went Ohen two, I said, don't worry owner GM coach quarterback A plus at all of them. They're fine, And here they come. Cleveland's a mess. The Steelers are limited offensively, and Lamar Jackson would be my MVP. I can't I cannot believe how good Lamar Jackson is, the fact that everybody doesn't love him. I don't get the kids incredible fourth straight win and four straight game. His passer rating is one fourteen. That is a streak. They lead the NFL in rush offense. Yeah, Derreck Henry's part of it, and so was Lamar. Where Colin was raw boy, I thought Doug Peterson, I'd banged on that for six months. I thought he was a perfect fit in Jacksonville. They don't do anything right. And what really concerns me is Trevor Lawrence has regressed. Some of this is on coaching. He has regressed badly in his last eighteen games. In their last twelve games, they're two and ten, and they feel incredibly inefficient and loose. That game wasn't even close. I mean, did you ever think Jacksonville had a shot against a young team in Chicago that's trying to find their footing in their way total control of that football game in London for three and a half hours. Where Colin was right, You guys were all bailing on Steve Sarkisian and I said he may be the best recruiter in the country now that Nick Saban's retired. He's a tremendous play caller and his quarterbacks. You can go back to was Washington USC days they all get better quickly. I love Sark. They ran over Oklahoma thirty four to three, not a big surprise. They were a two touchdown favorite. That the last unbeaten team in the SEC. I think the only team that can really match up with him is Ohio State and they played Georgia this weekend. I like Texas to win that game, but I think it's a competitive game. But I think Ohio State could potentially beat him. Maybe Georgia could, but that offensive line looks like an offensive line full of guys that will play on Sunday. Where Colin was right, well, I said all summer Ohio State is going to play for the national championship, but they're going to lose in Eugene, and I thought if they played again, Ohio State would win. I am concerned that the defense continues to get gashed in these big games against top ten teams. But Ohio State's a very good football team. But Eugene is different. If the loudest college stadium I've ever been in, it's built into the ground, and I mean listen, Oregon's got four and five star guys everywhere. I wouldn't be surprised if Oregon and Ohio State and Texas are the three best teams when you look up in December. But we called this one. I think if they met again, and by the way, they had eight penalties, fall starts, clock management issues. We had predicted that crowd for a college program. They're going to go on the road and look unsettled offensively, and they did at.

When the Ravens went Ohen two, I said, don't worry owner GM coach quarterback A plus at all of them. They're fine, And here they come. Cleveland's a mess. The Steelers are limited offensively, and Lamar Jackson would be my MVP. I can't I cannot believe how good Lamar Jackson is, the fact that everybody doesn't love him. I don't get the kids incredible fourth straight win and four straight game. His passer rating is one fourteen. That is a streak. They lead the NFL in rush offense. Yeah, Derreck Henry's part of it, and so was Lamar. Where Colin was raw boy, I thought Doug Peterson, I'd banged on that for six months. I thought he was a perfect fit in Jacksonville. They don't do anything right. And what really concerns me is Trevor Lawrence has regressed. Some of this is on coaching. He has regressed badly in his last eighteen games. In their last twelve games, they're two and ten, and they feel incredibly inefficient and loose. That game wasn't even close. I mean, did you ever think Jacksonville had a shot against a young team in Chicago that's trying to find their footing in their way total control of that football game in London for three and a half hours. Where Colin was right, You guys were all bailing on Steve Sarkisian and I said he may be the best recruiter in the country now that Nick Saban's retired. He's a tremendous play caller and his quarterbacks. You can go back to was Washington USC days they all get better quickly. I love Sark. They ran over Oklahoma thirty four to three, not a big surprise. They were a two touchdown favorite. That the last unbeaten team in the SEC. I think the only team that can really match up with him is Ohio State and they played Georgia this weekend. I like Texas to win that game, but I think it's a competitive game. But I think Ohio State could potentially beat him. Maybe Georgia could, but that offensive line looks like an offensive line full of guys that will play on Sunday. Where Colin was right, well, I said all summer Ohio State is going to play for the national championship, but they're going to lose in Eugene, and I thought if they played again, Ohio State would win. I am concerned that the defense continues to get gashed in these big games against top ten teams. But Ohio State's a very good football team. But Eugene is different. If the loudest college stadium I've ever been in, it's built into the ground, and I mean listen, Oregon's got four and five star guys everywhere. I wouldn't be surprised if Oregon and Ohio State and Texas are the three best teams when you look up in December. But we called this one. I think if they met again, and by the way, they had eight penalties, fall starts, clock management issues. We had predicted that crowd for a college program. They're going to go on the road and look unsettled offensively, and they did at.

Times where Colin was raw.

Times where Colin was raw.

I fell in love with the San Diego Padres after Game three and they didn't score a run from that plane forward. Yeah, I mean, Manny, Machado and Tatis were one for fifteen in their last two games the minute I fell in love with them. Apparently they sent all the bats home because they couldn't score a run. LA used eight relievers unheard of to shut them out in the playoff game. I think San Diego is so much fun to watch, but I mean Jack Flaherty, Aamamoto, all those relievers. Eventually the better team won in Los.

I fell in love with the San Diego Padres after Game three and they didn't score a run from that plane forward. Yeah, I mean, Manny, Machado and Tatis were one for fifteen in their last two games the minute I fell in love with them. Apparently they sent all the bats home because they couldn't score a run. LA used eight relievers unheard of to shut them out in the playoff game. I think San Diego is so much fun to watch, but I mean Jack Flaherty, Aamamoto, all those relievers. Eventually the better team won in Los.

Angeles, where Colin was right.

Angeles, where Colin was right.

Steelers offensive coordinator Arthur Smith, we predicted this would like justin Fields more than Russell Wilson. Last week, Arthur Smith was quoted saying, I like fields. There's no drama. He doesn't try to create a perception he's endearing to his teammates, which was a bizarrely aggressive shot at Russell Wilson. But this is what we predicted, is that the guys are gonna like Justin Fields. He's not rich, he's not sitting around on social media. He's just a regular dude. Even in Chicago when he was losing, everybody liked Justin Fields.

Steelers offensive coordinator Arthur Smith, we predicted this would like justin Fields more than Russell Wilson. Last week, Arthur Smith was quoted saying, I like fields. There's no drama. He doesn't try to create a perception he's endearing to his teammates, which was a bizarrely aggressive shot at Russell Wilson. But this is what we predicted, is that the guys are gonna like Justin Fields. He's not rich, he's not sitting around on social media. He's just a regular dude. Even in Chicago when he was losing, everybody liked Justin Fields.

Where Colin was right.

Where Colin was right.

Finally, the New Orleans Saints are what we thought they were. I always judge a coach is he at least good on his side of the ball. He may not be good on the other side. But Dennis Allen, the Saints are now allowing the most yards per game in the NFL, and he's a defensive coach. I think he's a bit over a skis. I think they probably have to take a big swing at quarterback. But I picked them for third or fourth in the division. I just too many, too many great quarterbacks and too many great great coaches in this league, and I don't think New Orleans is good enough at those two positions. Where Colin was right. Where Colin was wrong on a Monday, And with that, what a pleasure. Three time Pro bowler in Super Bowl, eighteen years in this league. Matt Hasselback, Seahawks, Colts, Packers, Titans joining us here in the herd. Let's hear it for our guy. Listen to get you out of that nice place you always join us live. It's a real win for us.

Finally, the New Orleans Saints are what we thought they were. I always judge a coach is he at least good on his side of the ball. He may not be good on the other side. But Dennis Allen, the Saints are now allowing the most yards per game in the NFL, and he's a defensive coach. I think he's a bit over a skis. I think they probably have to take a big swing at quarterback. But I picked them for third or fourth in the division. I just too many, too many great quarterbacks and too many great great coaches in this league, and I don't think New Orleans is good enough at those two positions. Where Colin was right. Where Colin was wrong on a Monday, And with that, what a pleasure. Three time Pro bowler in Super Bowl, eighteen years in this league. Matt Hasselback, Seahawks, Colts, Packers, Titans joining us here in the herd. Let's hear it for our guy. Listen to get you out of that nice place you always join us live. It's a real win for us.

So school football man. You know, I'm working man.

So school football man. You know, I'm working man.

You know, let's go on the flight back. You've got your game plan on.

You know, let's go on the flight back. You've got your game plan on.

Halready, did it? Did it last night? You know for today's practice.

Halready, did it? Did it last night? You know for today's practice.

Got a script for tomorrow seven on seventeen, you know, all the good stuff.

Got a script for tomorrow seven on seventeen, you know, all the good stuff.

So I want to start with a London game. So a lot of times when I watch a young quarterback, I tend to watch feet is a frenetic. I tend to watch where's the head going. A couple of times yesterday with with Caleb Williams. I mean it was like left middle, right, middle, left, and I was like, Okay, that's good. That's like that's you when you're older. That that feels like it takes a while. Some guys maybe have it innately, but I do feel like the feet where he's looking, it feels like there's growth here.

So I want to start with a London game. So a lot of times when I watch a young quarterback, I tend to watch feet is a frenetic. I tend to watch where's the head going. A couple of times yesterday with with Caleb Williams. I mean it was like left middle, right, middle, left, and I was like, Okay, that's good. That's like that's you when you're older. That that feels like it takes a while. Some guys maybe have it innately, but I do feel like the feet where he's looking, it feels like there's growth here.

Right.

Right.

Yeah, well I think his eyes than feet. You know, usually most teams. They Bears don't have it, but you think, got like a stripe on the middle of the helmet there, right, And so in the camera when you're studying film you're looking behind the quarterback. That stripe helps the quarterback coach know where the eyes are because you can't see the eyes with that tape you know, on the helmet tells you like, oh, your eye's in the right spot.

Yeah, well I think his eyes than feet. You know, usually most teams. They Bears don't have it, but you think, got like a stripe on the middle of the helmet there, right, And so in the camera when you're studying film you're looking behind the quarterback. That stripe helps the quarterback coach know where the eyes are because you can't see the eyes with that tape you know, on the helmet tells you like, oh, your eye's in the right spot.

Okay, So it really starts there.

Okay, So it really starts there.

I think what I see out of Caleb though, is like when you're talking about his footwork, he's throwing on top. I'm in rhythm with the quick game, and that's very important because you're avoiding sacks, you're getting the ball out of your hands into the hands of the athletes. But then where he's exceptional is when plays take a little bit longer and you're throwing the ball down field. His scramble ability is translating from the college game to the pro game, and that doesn't always happen with guys.

I think what I see out of Caleb though, is like when you're talking about his footwork, he's throwing on top. I'm in rhythm with the quick game, and that's very important because you're avoiding sacks, you're getting the ball out of your hands into the hands of the athletes. But then where he's exceptional is when plays take a little bit longer and you're throwing the ball down field. His scramble ability is translating from the college game to the pro game, and that doesn't always happen with guys.

So I think the combination of obviously.

So I think the combination of obviously.

They're playing good around him playing well, but the quick game is working, and then the exceptional explosive plays that you saw at SC they're still there as well.

They're playing good around him playing well, but the quick game is working, and then the exceptional explosive plays that you saw at SC they're still there as well.

You know, he really does have a power arm. I think he likes to throw from the pocket. He was asked out a lot in Collogy Goes. I'd actually rather be in the pocket. I think he likes. Some guys like to move because they question their ability there. I think Caleb would like to sit in the pocket for ninety percent of the stuff.

You know, he really does have a power arm. I think he likes to throw from the pocket. He was asked out a lot in Collogy Goes. I'd actually rather be in the pocket. I think he likes. Some guys like to move because they question their ability there. I think Caleb would like to sit in the pocket for ninety percent of the stuff.

I think there's still a lot of room for growth with him, obviously. I mean that's you know, I think it's going to get hard at some point for them. Like it's been pretty smooth right now.

I think there's still a lot of room for growth with him, obviously. I mean that's you know, I think it's going to get hard at some point for them. Like it's been pretty smooth right now.

Yeah, bad teams.

Yeah, bad teams.

Yeah, I don't want to say it that way, but yeah, but I think it was Houston they played and it didn't go as well, and I think that's probably more what you're going to see out of that team a quarter like. I think the Bears are doing a great job of this. As you're winning games, you're developing your young quarterback. Some people throw a young quarterback out there and they lose and they're like, oh, well, we gotta lose because we got our We need our young quarterback to develop. The Bears aren't doing that. I think they're playing really well around him, and I think the future is bright. I don't know if it's this year. I'm not as sold on that team, but clearly the game in London was huge.

Yeah, I don't want to say it that way, but yeah, but I think it was Houston they played and it didn't go as well, and I think that's probably more what you're going to see out of that team a quarter like. I think the Bears are doing a great job of this. As you're winning games, you're developing your young quarterback. Some people throw a young quarterback out there and they lose and they're like, oh, well, we gotta lose because we got our We need our young quarterback to develop. The Bears aren't doing that. I think they're playing really well around him, and I think the future is bright. I don't know if it's this year. I'm not as sold on that team, but clearly the game in London was huge.

So you know, if a team is losing, it can be a lot of things. It can be injuries. I mean the Rams had cluster injuries at wide receiver and O line. Okay, it can happen, but yesterday Phillies got both their receivers Saquon Barkley. I mean they got dudes. That's a great roster and this worries me. First two series off a by offensive coach Jalen's O for five and two punts. Matt, you give McVeigh off a bye that first series or Andy Reid, Like, I'm sorry, but isn't that an issue?

So you know, if a team is losing, it can be a lot of things. It can be injuries. I mean the Rams had cluster injuries at wide receiver and O line. Okay, it can happen, but yesterday Phillies got both their receivers Saquon Barkley. I mean they got dudes. That's a great roster and this worries me. First two series off a by offensive coach Jalen's O for five and two punts. Matt, you give McVeigh off a bye that first series or Andy Reid, Like, I'm sorry, but isn't that an issue?

No?

No?

I mean, listen, everyone's got injuries, like you said, but the key injuries I think for Philly, they lose those two wide receivers, they're a completely different team. And then when you come back, like you just never know, like you just never know, like sometimes it takes guys. Some guys are rusty, some guys are just ready to roll. I think Philly. I don't think the sky is falling as much on Philly as I don't personally think the sky is falling in Philly the way other people do think Philly rights the ship. They have not looked good, They've looked very, very bad. Sort of trust the pieces there if they.

I mean, listen, everyone's got injuries, like you said, but the key injuries I think for Philly, they lose those two wide receivers, they're a completely different team. And then when you come back, like you just never know, like you just never know, like sometimes it takes guys. Some guys are rusty, some guys are just ready to roll. I think Philly. I don't think the sky is falling as much on Philly as I don't personally think the sky is falling in Philly the way other people do think Philly rights the ship. They have not looked good, They've looked very, very bad. Sort of trust the pieces there if they.

Can get help.

Can get help.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah, there's transition there with like new coordinators, just a lot of stuff and hitting adversity. I do believe that this team they'll pull together, they won't pull apart. I do believe in Jalen Hurts the leader, and I think that's something that doesn't show up in stats. A lot of people, especially in the media, they love to just get on the stats, and like, while that's important, there's another aspect to being a franchise quarterback that I believe Jalen Hurts has and that's leadership, and I think that that counts for something. Yeah, and also the rest of the division kind of stinks, with the exception of Washington.

Yeah, there's transition there with like new coordinators, just a lot of stuff and hitting adversity. I do believe that this team they'll pull together, they won't pull apart. I do believe in Jalen Hurts the leader, and I think that's something that doesn't show up in stats. A lot of people, especially in the media, they love to just get on the stats, and like, while that's important, there's another aspect to being a franchise quarterback that I believe Jalen Hurts has and that's leadership, and I think that that counts for something. Yeah, and also the rest of the division kind of stinks, with the exception of Washington.

So there was a I don't think hockey guys or football players don't quit because you get hurt, but there's a tempo. The governor was turned down on the Cowboys yesterday, Like it's just not quite there. And it's easy for us to blame dak or Mike McCarthy, but your owner's your GM and they've been hit and miss undrafting. Not terrible, But I do feel like, and I've said this about the Lakers for years, is that there's too many people that are friends and relatives of the Lakers and not enough outside influence. And I feel with a cowboy, there's a lot of Jones in the building and it's like it's when they succeeded. Parcels came in and Jimmy Johnson came in, and I look at this organization as kind of insular. Matt, how do I Baltimore ran them over? Detroit random over. I watched last year Green Bay the same ran them over. Is it just possible it's a mediocre roster.

So there was a I don't think hockey guys or football players don't quit because you get hurt, but there's a tempo. The governor was turned down on the Cowboys yesterday, Like it's just not quite there. And it's easy for us to blame dak or Mike McCarthy, but your owner's your GM and they've been hit and miss undrafting. Not terrible, But I do feel like, and I've said this about the Lakers for years, is that there's too many people that are friends and relatives of the Lakers and not enough outside influence. And I feel with a cowboy, there's a lot of Jones in the building and it's like it's when they succeeded. Parcels came in and Jimmy Johnson came in, and I look at this organization as kind of insular. Matt, how do I Baltimore ran them over? Detroit random over. I watched last year Green Bay the same ran them over. Is it just possible it's a mediocre roster.

Yeah, I think injuries are huge.

Yeah, I think injuries are huge.

You know, you take again, you take away some superstars, you know, you take away just one guy, take away Michael Parsons is a different team, right And I'm not in the building, so I can't speak to that, but I can't speak to the film. And I would just say this, when a defense you mentioned tempo, when they struggle to line up, like then you're like Dallas defense used to.

You know, you take again, you take away some superstars, you know, you take away just one guy, take away Michael Parsons is a different team, right And I'm not in the building, so I can't speak to that, but I can't speak to the film. And I would just say this, when a defense you mentioned tempo, when they struggle to line up, like then you're like Dallas defense used to.

Be the aggressor. They used to come out under Dan Quintin.

Be the aggressor. They used to come out under Dan Quintin.

And had this idea of like, no, no, we don't even need our offense to score. We're gonna score. Like that was the mindset of the Dallas defense. Now you see the Dallas defense like not even lining up on time the ball is snapped. The d line doesn't even have their hands in the dirt.

And had this idea of like, no, no, we don't even need our offense to score. We're gonna score. Like that was the mindset of the Dallas defense. Now you see the Dallas defense like not even lining up on time the ball is snapped. The d line doesn't even have their hands in the dirt.

You know, they're.

You know, they're.

In a bunch set, a cluster formation, and the dbs haven't even decided like who's got who, who's got inside, who's got outside, Like they're not even lining up, and you know, it just kind of reminds me a little bit too, like that's pre snap.

In a bunch set, a cluster formation, and the dbs haven't even decided like who's got who, who's got inside, who's got outside, Like they're not even lining up, and you know, it just kind of reminds me a little bit too, like that's pre snap.

Now talk about post snap.

Now talk about post snap.

So the I I heard the defensive coordinator for the Green Bay Packers, Jeff Affley say this once and I thought it was excellent. The love how much you love your teammate and how accountable you are to your teammate can be measured on defense by.

So the I I heard the defensive coordinator for the Green Bay Packers, Jeff Affley say this once and I thought it was excellent. The love how much you love your teammate and how accountable you are to your teammate can be measured on defense by.

How close you are to the ball when the whistle is blown. Pursuit effort.

How close you are to the ball when the whistle is blown. Pursuit effort.

You know, you hear people this year talking about guys on defense making business decisions.

You know, you hear people this year talking about guys on defense making business decisions.

They don't want to tackle a Derrick Henry.

They don't want to tackle a Derrick Henry.

They don't want to tackle in a game that's already out of hand like stuff like that. I think effort in your pursuit to the ball matters a lot on defense too, And that's another thing. Just put it on the list that I think needs to get corrected in Dallas.

They don't want to tackle in a game that's already out of hand like stuff like that. I think effort in your pursuit to the ball matters a lot on defense too, And that's another thing. Just put it on the list that I think needs to get corrected in Dallas.

How much is this though? Detroit's very unique. The Patriots could do this at their prime is that they can run with power, they can do trick plays, they can be cute. It's very rare. Usually because of a salary cap. You got a hole. If you do the power game, you're not cute. You know. Baltimore for years didn't have great receivers Mark Andrews, but they can do the power game. But they weren't gonna beat you down the field. And I watch I watched this team and I'm like, they're a little like a younger version of the Niners. They just they got personnel, they kind of do everything.

How much is this though? Detroit's very unique. The Patriots could do this at their prime is that they can run with power, they can do trick plays, they can be cute. It's very rare. Usually because of a salary cap. You got a hole. If you do the power game, you're not cute. You know. Baltimore for years didn't have great receivers Mark Andrews, but they can do the power game. But they weren't gonna beat you down the field. And I watch I watched this team and I'm like, they're a little like a younger version of the Niners. They just they got personnel, they kind of do everything.

Yeah, I mean that was fun to watch, right, Detroit's offense. It kind of reminds me and listen Detroit. If you've been following the NFL for a long time, Detroit's been picked on. They've been the joke, you know for many years, Like they've been like the team that no one counts on. They've been bullied a little bit, yeah, right, And you know when you play, when you play in the NFL, it's very common when you go out and you're leaving the locker room pep talk or whatever, the coach or a guy on the team says, we're gonna go out and we're gonna hit him in the mouth in their house, you know. But like it's like it's just talk right right. When Detroit says it, it feels different. When Dan Campbell says it, it feels different. There's something about this team that's like fed up. And I worked with Rex Ryan for a long time, and you know I remember Rex like really believing in Dan Campbell and really believing.

Yeah, I mean that was fun to watch, right, Detroit's offense. It kind of reminds me and listen Detroit. If you've been following the NFL for a long time, Detroit's been picked on. They've been the joke, you know for many years, Like they've been like the team that no one counts on. They've been bullied a little bit, yeah, right, And you know when you play, when you play in the NFL, it's very common when you go out and you're leaving the locker room pep talk or whatever, the coach or a guy on the team says, we're gonna go out and we're gonna hit him in the mouth in their house, you know. But like it's like it's just talk right right. When Detroit says it, it feels different. When Dan Campbell says it, it feels different. There's something about this team that's like fed up. And I worked with Rex Ryan for a long time, and you know I remember Rex like really believing in Dan Campbell and really believing.

In this Detroit team.

In this Detroit team.

And he would see, you know, talk about the book and he's like, you just watch one of these days.

And he would see, you know, talk about the book and he's like, you just watch one of these days.

You know, one of these days.

You know, one of these days.

Detroit's gonna say enough and they're going to go into like the bully's house. And like, in my mind, I'm picturing like, you know, George McFly and Biff, you know, get your damn hands off or Biff, you know, and then you knock them out, like you hit them in the mouth at their place on primetime. You know, like this is the Dallas Cowboys, who better to do it against? And that's what they did, and everything was different after that. Everything, And that's how I feel about this Detroit team. Like they sent a message. They lost their best player. They did whatever they wanted to do in the passing game, perfect passer rating, they did whatever they wanted to do in the running game. They're trying to throw touchdowns offensive linemen. They're throwing hooking laterals to offensive linemen, like they sent a message. And Ben Johnson, like, you know, he could have left last year and been a head coach. He said, no, there's something special brewing here. I'm staying maybe I'm not ready to be a head coach. This is what I'm meant to do. This is what I love to do. So I think they got something special. Now they're gonna hit adversity because they lost you know, Aiden Hutchinson, but the trade deadline hasn't happened. There's players all around the league on bad teams like you know, I don't name names, but like a Max Crosby or like somebody like that that would fit nicely, and they're saying, man, get me to Detroit. There's something special about Detroit. I want to be on a team like that. That's how I play the game, and I want to be on that team.

Detroit's gonna say enough and they're going to go into like the bully's house. And like, in my mind, I'm picturing like, you know, George McFly and Biff, you know, get your damn hands off or Biff, you know, and then you knock them out, like you hit them in the mouth at their place on primetime. You know, like this is the Dallas Cowboys, who better to do it against? And that's what they did, and everything was different after that. Everything, And that's how I feel about this Detroit team. Like they sent a message. They lost their best player. They did whatever they wanted to do in the passing game, perfect passer rating, they did whatever they wanted to do in the running game. They're trying to throw touchdowns offensive linemen. They're throwing hooking laterals to offensive linemen, like they sent a message. And Ben Johnson, like, you know, he could have left last year and been a head coach. He said, no, there's something special brewing here. I'm staying maybe I'm not ready to be a head coach. This is what I'm meant to do. This is what I love to do. So I think they got something special. Now they're gonna hit adversity because they lost you know, Aiden Hutchinson, but the trade deadline hasn't happened. There's players all around the league on bad teams like you know, I don't name names, but like a Max Crosby or like somebody like that that would fit nicely, and they're saying, man, get me to Detroit. There's something special about Detroit. I want to be on a team like that. That's how I play the game, and I want to be on that team.

So tonight, I think it's very interesting. So my general rule on football is if you are talented and play poorly like the Cowboys, they'll probably play better next week. I don't think they're great. So Aaron Rodgers probably had his worst game as a pro. I mean, all three picks were bad. Aaron has maybe one of those a month. He had three in one game. And my guess is they they made a move at OC which I think was a right move. Sometimes it's uncomfortable with a new guy, but I actually think the Jets will play really, really well tonight. I have to ask you. I know the guy was in the building, but replacing the play caller, how difficult is it.

So tonight, I think it's very interesting. So my general rule on football is if you are talented and play poorly like the Cowboys, they'll probably play better next week. I don't think they're great. So Aaron Rodgers probably had his worst game as a pro. I mean, all three picks were bad. Aaron has maybe one of those a month. He had three in one game. And my guess is they they made a move at OC which I think was a right move. Sometimes it's uncomfortable with a new guy, but I actually think the Jets will play really, really well tonight. I have to ask you. I know the guy was in the building, but replacing the play caller, how difficult is it.

It's hard to been a part of it. It's tough, but it's in the short term. I agree with you. It's a good thing. It's a wake up call. Things change, a fresh set of eyes. Someone who's had success somewhere else understands, like you know what, I know what this team can. It's not about what we can't do, It's about what this team can do. Okay, But I think the other thing that I don't think people ever talk about is it now becomes a blind date for the Buffalo Bills. They don't know, Like it's so much analytics and film study and like, are on third and three to six they're sixty five percent that on third and seven to ten they're thirty two percent. This, Like it's so much analytics that goes into it. Now now it's literally like you don't really know. Like in fact, if I was the Jets, I don't think I would have announced who the play caller was because that even gives them more of a competitive advantage, right, So, like they don't really know Jeff Ulbrick, Like, I mean, I know Jeff Olbrick played against him for years. He coached me in Seattle, But like, I don't know what's he gonna do as a head coach. Is he gonna be a guys going forward and fourth down? You know, what are they gonna do offensively? Are they going to be more like what Downing's done in the past. Are they going to have more control for Aaron Rodgers less?

It's hard to been a part of it. It's tough, but it's in the short term. I agree with you. It's a good thing. It's a wake up call. Things change, a fresh set of eyes. Someone who's had success somewhere else understands, like you know what, I know what this team can. It's not about what we can't do, It's about what this team can do. Okay, But I think the other thing that I don't think people ever talk about is it now becomes a blind date for the Buffalo Bills. They don't know, Like it's so much analytics and film study and like, are on third and three to six they're sixty five percent that on third and seven to ten they're thirty two percent. This, Like it's so much analytics that goes into it. Now now it's literally like you don't really know. Like in fact, if I was the Jets, I don't think I would have announced who the play caller was because that even gives them more of a competitive advantage, right, So, like they don't really know Jeff Ulbrick, Like, I mean, I know Jeff Olbrick played against him for years. He coached me in Seattle, But like, I don't know what's he gonna do as a head coach. Is he gonna be a guys going forward and fourth down? You know, what are they gonna do offensively? Are they going to be more like what Downing's done in the past. Are they going to have more control for Aaron Rodgers less?

Like?

Like?

So, I just really think that you're gonna see a different tempo and energy because there's gonna be a part of the team in New York. That's like, Man, we let our coaching staff down, we let our head coach down, we let our oc down. We gotta we gotta play different. We got to play more the way that they would want to would have wanted us to play. And then also just the unknown. And I think that's a that's a tough thing.

So, I just really think that you're gonna see a different tempo and energy because there's gonna be a part of the team in New York. That's like, Man, we let our coaching staff down, we let our head coach down, we let our oc down. We gotta we gotta play different. We got to play more the way that they would want to would have wanted us to play. And then also just the unknown. And I think that's a that's a tough thing.

Now.

Now.

In the long run, I think it catches up to you. Yeah, But but for right now.

In the long run, I think it catches up to you. Yeah, But but for right now.

Tonight look out. So you know, it's interesting I've defended Lamar Jackson for three years on this show that he's really much more consistent in the pocket than people think. The quarterback that isn't now is Josh Allen. So he plays tonight. So I think Lamar is remarkable. But I want to stay on the Buffalo Jets. What troubles me with Kyler Murray's inconsistency. I almost feel like, because I've had it so sourced from players, executives to coaches around Kyler, there's some immaturity issues, there are some commitment issues. I don't hear that with Josh. My sources say he's totally committed, immature kid, locker room leader. We are getting to a point though with Josh is I feel he's a bit oc dependent, although everybody is. The inconsistency is a bit troubling. Where does that come from. It's not that he loses his arm strength or ability.

Tonight look out. So you know, it's interesting I've defended Lamar Jackson for three years on this show that he's really much more consistent in the pocket than people think. The quarterback that isn't now is Josh Allen. So he plays tonight. So I think Lamar is remarkable. But I want to stay on the Buffalo Jets. What troubles me with Kyler Murray's inconsistency. I almost feel like, because I've had it so sourced from players, executives to coaches around Kyler, there's some immaturity issues, there are some commitment issues. I don't hear that with Josh. My sources say he's totally committed, immature kid, locker room leader. We are getting to a point though with Josh is I feel he's a bit oc dependent, although everybody is. The inconsistency is a bit troubling. Where does that come from. It's not that he loses his arm strength or ability.

No, I think he's great.

No, I think he's great.

I mean, I think Josh Allen's one of the most talented quarterbacks I've ever watched.

I mean, I think Josh Allen's one of the most talented quarterbacks I've ever watched.

Sometimes you can try to do too much. Sometimes you can be a little.

Sometimes you can try to do too much. Sometimes you can be a little.

Careless, like he's careless with his body, and like, you know, Andrew Luck was that way, Like he was careless with his body. He's one of the reasons that he was so fun to watch and his teammates loved him. Like, man, this dude is laying it out on the like he's landed on the line for us, for our team. But there's a there's a fine line between being careless with your body and being careless with the football. And like, I think that's the tough thing. And so how do you do that as a quarterback with split second decisions? And you know, the best way that I've ever heard it described, Clyde Christiansen was the quarterback coach in Indy. We're coaching Andrew Luck, and it was Andrew was kind of going through one of these, you know, parts of the season, just like Josh.

Careless, like he's careless with his body, and like, you know, Andrew Luck was that way, Like he was careless with his body. He's one of the reasons that he was so fun to watch and his teammates loved him. Like, man, this dude is laying it out on the like he's landed on the line for us, for our team. But there's a there's a fine line between being careless with your body and being careless with the football. And like, I think that's the tough thing. And so how do you do that as a quarterback with split second decisions? And you know, the best way that I've ever heard it described, Clyde Christiansen was the quarterback coach in Indy. We're coaching Andrew Luck, and it was Andrew was kind of going through one of these, you know, parts of the season, just like Josh.

Allen has had sometimes. And this so Clyde brings this admiral in from.

Allen has had sometimes. And this so Clyde brings this admiral in from.

The Navy to talk about how they trained fighter pilots to cut it loose, to trust their training, be aggressive. You're the best in the world at what you do. But at the same time, that fighter jet that you have doesn't belong to you. You don't get to just hit a jet whenever you want, like it belongs to the taxpayers. It's millions and millions of dollars. And in the same way that football doesn't belong to you. You need to be more careful with that football. Now, how do you do it?

The Navy to talk about how they trained fighter pilots to cut it loose, to trust their training, be aggressive. You're the best in the world at what you do. But at the same time, that fighter jet that you have doesn't belong to you. You don't get to just hit a jet whenever you want, like it belongs to the taxpayers. It's millions and millions of dollars. And in the same way that football doesn't belong to you. You need to be more careful with that football. Now, how do you do it?

Do you play defensive like a driver's ed sixteen and a half year old? No, you don't.

Do you play defensive like a driver's ed sixteen and a half year old? No, you don't.

You cut it loose and you trust your training, but you have to have respect for the fact that, like, if you want to be reckless with your body, fine, you don't get to be reckless with that football.

You cut it loose and you trust your training, but you have to have respect for the fact that, like, if you want to be reckless with your body, fine, you don't get to be reckless with that football.

I love the coaches bring in fighter pilots. That is great.

I love the coaches bring in fighter pilots. That is great.

It's kind of like one of those mister Miagi moments too, because you get you get a big game the next day and you're like, all right, you know, what's the first fifteen plays going to be? And then all of a sudden, like an admiral from the Navy comes in, and you're like, I mean, what is this wax on?

It's kind of like one of those mister Miagi moments too, because you get you get a big game the next day and you're like, all right, you know, what's the first fifteen plays going to be? And then all of a sudden, like an admiral from the Navy comes in, and you're like, I mean, what is this wax on?

Wax off? What is this even good for? Why do we need to know about fighter pilots? And then all of a sudden, like it's over, and you're just.

Wax off? What is this even good for? Why do we need to know about fighter pilots? And then all of a sudden, like it's over, and you're just.

Like, oh, like the light bulb goes off, Like that was epic, Like that was like next level.

Like, oh, like the light bulb goes off, Like that was epic, Like that was like next level.

It was a Hall of Fame coaching. And I'll never forget it. Miss years ago.

It was a Hall of Fame coaching. And I'll never forget it. Miss years ago.

It's probably ten and eleven years ago, and you know, I'm coaching high school football now and I still look for those types of nuggets because I think it's even harder.

It's probably ten and eleven years ago, and you know, I'm coaching high school football now and I still look for those types of nuggets because I think it's even harder.

To coach.

To coach.

Kid distracted.

Kid distracted.

Well, it's it's harder to.

Well, it's it's harder to.

Coach really creative players who feel like, hey, I know, I already know, I know, coach I know, and so like, think about what that's like coaching the game's best, the Josh Allen's, the Patrick Mahomes, you know, those types of guys.

Coach really creative players who feel like, hey, I know, I already know, I know, coach I know, and so like, think about what that's like coaching the game's best, the Josh Allen's, the Patrick Mahomes, you know, those types of guys.

You have to get creative.

You have to get creative.

I want to ask you one college question. So everybody beats up on Will Howard at Ohio State. You know, he scrambles, he doesn't get down in time. But I had said, going into this game for an eighteen nineteen, twenty twenty one year old college players, NFL is different to travel three thousand miles. I guarantee a ninety nine percent of that roster had never been to the Pacific Northwest. That's one of the loudest places. So everybody's beaten up on Will Howard, and I'm like, I get it, like you're I mean, Andy Reid got crushed for clock management until he got my homes and the minute Brady left New England, everybody said Belichick's clock management is terrible. Take me to how hard it is in these last moments or did you was it easier for you?

I want to ask you one college question. So everybody beats up on Will Howard at Ohio State. You know, he scrambles, he doesn't get down in time. But I had said, going into this game for an eighteen nineteen, twenty twenty one year old college players, NFL is different to travel three thousand miles. I guarantee a ninety nine percent of that roster had never been to the Pacific Northwest. That's one of the loudest places. So everybody's beaten up on Will Howard, and I'm like, I get it, like you're I mean, Andy Reid got crushed for clock management until he got my homes and the minute Brady left New England, everybody said Belichick's clock management is terrible. Take me to how hard it is in these last moments or did you was it easier for you?

Well it's different this year, right, because now the college game has the coach to quarterback communication system. Guys like David Shaw were fighting for this forever because they had to signal it in I mean, you can remember like college quarterbacks like taking a knee on fourth down or sorry, spiking it, I'm fourth down, Like it's just hard, Like these are college kids, right, you know, I mean I played eighteen years in the NFL. I threw more touchdown. I through more interceptions than touchdowns in college, I was a kid. I rushed for negative two hundred and eighty eight yards in my college career. Like, I mean, so who am I to pile onto a college kid? But I do think like now that the coach to quarterback communication system is there, more responsibility falls on the coaching staff, and I think that that's a kind of a welcome thing. But no, the whole thing's tough. I mean, these guys are also going to school. It's it's it's crazy. So like we have professionalized I call it professional amateur sports with college football.

Well it's different this year, right, because now the college game has the coach to quarterback communication system. Guys like David Shaw were fighting for this forever because they had to signal it in I mean, you can remember like college quarterbacks like taking a knee on fourth down or sorry, spiking it, I'm fourth down, Like it's just hard, Like these are college kids, right, you know, I mean I played eighteen years in the NFL. I threw more touchdown. I through more interceptions than touchdowns in college, I was a kid. I rushed for negative two hundred and eighty eight yards in my college career. Like, I mean, so who am I to pile onto a college kid? But I do think like now that the coach to quarterback communication system is there, more responsibility falls on the coaching staff, and I think that that's a kind of a welcome thing. But no, the whole thing's tough. I mean, these guys are also going to school. It's it's it's crazy. So like we have professionalized I call it professional amateur sports with college football.

Play crack and field a little bit. There are amateurs but getting paid.

Play crack and field a little bit. There are amateurs but getting paid.

No doubt.

No doubt.

And so the scrutiny is on these especially at the top schools, the rare air schools, the scrutiny is on those quarterbacks, just like it is on these pro guys. And I just think it's tough, like the the lack of experience, the you know, like still going to school, like all of it. I do think it's tough. So I'm like usually the last guy to pile on onto those guys. And again because like if you were to evaluate me at that time. I mean, mistakes all over the place. And the good thing about mistakes as you learned from them, but in the moment. But to do it under the microscope like these guys got to do is very very tough.

And so the scrutiny is on these especially at the top schools, the rare air schools, the scrutiny is on those quarterbacks, just like it is on these pro guys. And I just think it's tough, like the the lack of experience, the you know, like still going to school, like all of it. I do think it's tough. So I'm like usually the last guy to pile on onto those guys. And again because like if you were to evaluate me at that time. I mean, mistakes all over the place. And the good thing about mistakes as you learned from them, but in the moment. But to do it under the microscope like these guys got to do is very very tough.

I one more I've said this. You were mechanically very sound. You moved well. When I watched Shador Sanders moving forward back, left, right, he's just accurate. CJ Stroud has this. CJ's just accurate. Some guys mechanically and Sam Darnold his mechanics needed like training. So I watched the dour this weekend with the bad old line and no run game and its top two receivers out, and I'm like, man, that is that is effortlessly accurate. Was accuracy easy for you? Did you ever see somebody in the league that you thought was great but actually had to put the time into accuracy And.

I one more I've said this. You were mechanically very sound. You moved well. When I watched Shador Sanders moving forward back, left, right, he's just accurate. CJ Stroud has this. CJ's just accurate. Some guys mechanically and Sam Darnold his mechanics needed like training. So I watched the dour this weekend with the bad old line and no run game and its top two receivers out, and I'm like, man, that is that is effortlessly accurate. Was accuracy easy for you? Did you ever see somebody in the league that you thought was great but actually had to put the time into accuracy And.

Like, oh, yeah, without a doubt.

Like, oh, yeah, without a doubt.

But you know, I also think, like there's all these hidden things that I think quarterbacks respect, the offensive linemen and respect, and I think they just kind of go unnoticed. You know a lot of times people say, oh, the offensive line's bad. Well, you can like at the end of the year in the NFL at the end of the year. Every year you assigned blame for the sacks. They kind of assigned blame oll that was on the guard, that was on the tackle, that was on the quarterback, whatever that was on the coach, that was on the scheme. But like when we would do that in the off season, I would kind of say, like, Okay, what could I have done different? Like what could I have done different? Even if the blame wasn't technically on me. And I think there's something to throwing the ball shorter on time at times and also just finding a way to throw the ball away. So like it, you know, when they were in their heyday, Tom Brady Aaron Rodgers were like leading the league in throwaways. And to me, that's avoiding sacks.

But you know, I also think, like there's all these hidden things that I think quarterbacks respect, the offensive linemen and respect, and I think they just kind of go unnoticed. You know a lot of times people say, oh, the offensive line's bad. Well, you can like at the end of the year in the NFL at the end of the year. Every year you assigned blame for the sacks. They kind of assigned blame oll that was on the guard, that was on the tackle, that was on the quarterback, whatever that was on the coach, that was on the scheme. But like when we would do that in the off season, I would kind of say, like, Okay, what could I have done different? Like what could I have done different? Even if the blame wasn't technically on me. And I think there's something to throwing the ball shorter on time at times and also just finding a way to throw the ball away. So like it, you know, when they were in their heyday, Tom Brady Aaron Rodgers were like leading the league in throwaways. And to me, that's avoiding sacks.

Now.

Now.

Is that hurting your quarterback rating? Yeah? You know, is that hurting your own personal stats?

Is that hurting your quarterback rating? Yeah? You know, is that hurting your own personal stats?

Yeah?

Yeah?

Is that helping the team though? Yes? Is that helping the offensive line?

Is that helping the team though? Yes? Is that helping the offensive line?

And so I think there are quarterbacks who do an amazing job of protecting the team with not taking sacks, and then there's other guys that it's just like you know, your fingernails on a chalkboard.

And so I think there are quarterbacks who do an amazing job of protecting the team with not taking sacks, and then there's other guys that it's just like you know, your fingernails on a chalkboard.

They'll take a sack.

They'll take a sack.

When there was absolutely no reason to take a sack and you put your team behind. Now, it hurts the offense, it hurts the defense. So I think that's an area where more athletic quarterbacks because they can get away with scrambling. I think that's an area, like I've mentioned to you, I think Steve Young was a guy that he said it was hardest for me because I knew I could trust my legs, and for you know a lot of guys, it's a curse in a blessing.

When there was absolutely no reason to take a sack and you put your team behind. Now, it hurts the offense, it hurts the defense. So I think that's an area where more athletic quarterbacks because they can get away with scrambling. I think that's an area, like I've mentioned to you, I think Steve Young was a guy that he said it was hardest for me because I knew I could trust my legs, and for you know a lot of guys, it's a curse in a blessing.

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Like big games. This weekend Minnesota Detroit's a big one. I'm going to take the vikings in that one. You know, it's funny when I go around the country wherever I'm at, how many Viking fans there are, and how appreciative Viking fans are of us in the media saying nice things about their team. I run into somebody from Minnesota, and I am not joking. I run into a Viking fan every day of the week somewhere in Los Angeles. Could go up out to get coffee or you know, you're going to get something, Jim, Viking fans, we hear you. They're so appreciative that because I think they think we're all kind of rolling our eyes. Minnesota looks like the best team in the league, better than Kansas City on a lot of Sundays, and I think off of Bye they're going to be a handful for Detroit. I like Minnesota in that spot. Jmack with the News.

Like big games. This weekend Minnesota Detroit's a big one. I'm going to take the vikings in that one. You know, it's funny when I go around the country wherever I'm at, how many Viking fans there are, and how appreciative Viking fans are of us in the media saying nice things about their team. I run into somebody from Minnesota, and I am not joking. I run into a Viking fan every day of the week somewhere in Los Angeles. Could go up out to get coffee or you know, you're going to get something, Jim, Viking fans, we hear you. They're so appreciative that because I think they think we're all kind of rolling our eyes. Minnesota looks like the best team in the league, better than Kansas City on a lot of Sundays, and I think off of Bye they're going to be a handful for Detroit. I like Minnesota in that spot. Jmack with the News.

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Jim Harball had a scary moment uh Sunday Chargers Broncos. He went to the blue medical ten in the first quarter and then went back to the locker room. The Chargers designated Harball questionable to return. This is the head coach, By the way, Harball eventually came back to the sidelines and coached the rest of the game.

Jim Harball had a scary moment uh Sunday Chargers Broncos. He went to the blue medical ten in the first quarter and then went back to the locker room. The Chargers designated Harball questionable to return. This is the head coach, By the way, Harball eventually came back to the sidelines and coached the rest of the game.

Afterward, he was joking about the health scare tu oh with.

Afterward, he was joking about the health scare tu oh with.

Uh an arrhythmias. Yeah, I could tell her there's there was some irregular beats. Co I am qualified to talk about. This is me I'm allowed to you know.

Uh an arrhythmias. Yeah, I could tell her there's there was some irregular beats. Co I am qualified to talk about. This is me I'm allowed to you know.

Uh yeah, nobody could quite figure it out. His brother John like stopped his press conference short when he heard about it. So this is something else he's he is. Uh that game yesterday j Mack was one of the easier ones to pick. So Chargers had both their tackles back. Their receiving corps is limited, and it got beat up Herby I think was concussims. Yeah, I mean, so Herbert, there's always something missing for Justin Herbert. It's either his old line or his receivers. He's never really had a full healthy compliment for a month of his career. But yeah, I think that they came out obviously on script Greg Roman. They came out and took command of that game immediately.

Uh yeah, nobody could quite figure it out. His brother John like stopped his press conference short when he heard about it. So this is something else he's he is. Uh that game yesterday j Mack was one of the easier ones to pick. So Chargers had both their tackles back. Their receiving corps is limited, and it got beat up Herby I think was concussims. Yeah, I mean, so Herbert, there's always something missing for Justin Herbert. It's either his old line or his receivers. He's never really had a full healthy compliment for a month of his career. But yeah, I think that they came out obviously on script Greg Roman. They came out and took command of that game immediately.

So it was some guy caught a touchdown pass from Herbert and I'm looking at his number on like thirty seven.

So it was some guy caught a touchdown pass from Herbert and I'm looking at his number on like thirty seven.

Who is this guy?

Who is this guy?

It was some name someone named Kimani Vidal. I'd never heard his name before. They caught an awesome touchdown pass from Herbert. This is who Herbert's throwing too randoms. Just to be clear though, this was twenty three nothing in the fourth quarter before a lot of garbage time stuff from the Broncos.

It was some name someone named Kimani Vidal. I'd never heard his name before. They caught an awesome touchdown pass from Herbert. This is who Herbert's throwing too randoms. Just to be clear though, this was twenty three nothing in the fourth quarter before a lot of garbage time stuff from the Broncos.

No, no, no, no, I know you got.

No, no, no, no, I know you got.

Bo Nicks.

Bo Nicks.

Bowen. I don't want to go back.

Bowen. I don't want to go back.

To Friday's Perty versus bo Nicks thing, but bo Nicks I think had twenty two yards passing in the first half.

To Friday's Perty versus bo Nicks thing, but bo Nicks I think had twenty two yards passing in the first half.

He was three for ten.

He was three for ten.

Yeah. Comment on bo Nix's I don't know that throw well to Courtland Sutton in the back of the end zone was pretty Listen, Nate, Here's what I'll say about Bonex. People always bang on quarterbacks. They're padding stats. He made that a game. If they get a fourth down conversion, they are down three doing the on side kicker Rooney.

Yeah. Comment on bo Nix's I don't know that throw well to Courtland Sutton in the back of the end zone was pretty Listen, Nate, Here's what I'll say about Bonex. People always bang on quarterbacks. They're padding stats. He made that a game. If they get a fourth down conversion, they are down three doing the on side kicker Rooney.

Charge Chargers were like prevot defense for like the last twelve bottom line is impressive from the Charger.

Charge Chargers were like prevot defense for like the last twelve bottom line is impressive from the Charger.

This could continue again. That's what you should look like. Hey, come on, Eli, off of by you should look like what the Chargers did Philadelphia off of Bye zero for five and two punts like off of bye with an offensive coach the charge. I mean you literally the second series of the game, you're like, oh, Chargers going this football game. They're in total control of the game. Very impressive stuff.

This could continue again. That's what you should look like. Hey, come on, Eli, off of by you should look like what the Chargers did Philadelphia off of Bye zero for five and two punts like off of bye with an offensive coach the charge. I mean you literally the second series of the game, you're like, oh, Chargers going this football game. They're in total control of the game. Very impressive stuff.

Next story Colin is Drake May got his first start Sunday. He was buying the eight ball quickly against the Texas.

Next story Colin is Drake May got his first start Sunday. He was buying the eight ball quickly against the Texas.

This was a corner TV game.

This was a corner TV game.

I did have a really nice touchdown pass.

I did have a really nice touchdown pass.

They had to give Hi props on that one to Boote who cooked Derek Stingley.

They had to give Hi props on that one to Boote who cooked Derek Stingley.

I need to mention Derek Stingley got roasted again.

I need to mention Derek Stingley got roasted again.

May was up and down. I thought he was kind of good. Tough spot.

May was up and down. I thought he was kind of good. Tough spot.

His head coach said. May was the least of the team's problems.

His head coach said. May was the least of the team's problems.

I thought he showed a lot of foys. I thought he went out there and controlled the huddle, got those guys out of the huddle.

I thought he showed a lot of foys. I thought he went out there and controlled the huddle, got those guys out of the huddle.

And once again make some place.

And once again make some place.

And it's definitely encouraging, you know, as you know, from a team wide perspective, right now, we're just we're not. We let him down. You know, it was his first game and I feel like I let him down. I'm sure all the coaches feel like we let everyone down.

And it's definitely encouraging, you know, as you know, from a team wide perspective, right now, we're just we're not. We let him down. You know, it was his first game and I feel like I let him down. I'm sure all the coaches feel like we let everyone down.

And you just got to be better.

And you just got to be better.

Yeah, I mean, I just I'm gonna hold him to a lower standard. They don't have much to work with.

Yeah, I mean, I just I'm gonna hold him to a lower standard. They don't have much to work with.

Well, let's you could say that, but May had more touchdown passes in one game than Brissett had in the first five. May had three touchdown passes. I know the game state was they're trailing by a million, But for me, I thought Drake May looked pretty good. A couple bad throws, but it's his first start. Remember what Kleb and Jaden they all lost their first start. Yeah, and Drake May showed well. Here's some numbers from yesterday. I will point out first quarter Houston had ten first downs, Patriots at zero. And Joe Mixon is back. We've talked about him on the show a lot. He is so pivotal to that offense.

Well, let's you could say that, but May had more touchdown passes in one game than Brissett had in the first five. May had three touchdown passes. I know the game state was they're trailing by a million, But for me, I thought Drake May looked pretty good. A couple bad throws, but it's his first start. Remember what Kleb and Jaden they all lost their first start. Yeah, and Drake May showed well. Here's some numbers from yesterday. I will point out first quarter Houston had ten first downs, Patriots at zero. And Joe Mixon is back. We've talked about him on the show a lot. He is so pivotal to that offense.

Hewn well, it's much easier to throw it on second and four and third and two, and when you had also it just allows it allows the quarterback to throw on his terms more often than when you're on third and seven and can't run. You're throwing on the defense's terms. So I think if Joe Mixon a real workhorse, a power runner with speed, I think if he's healthy, Houston can win their division and win a playoff game. I don't think they're quite mature enough or ready for They remind me of Green Bay in the NFC. If they got to the conference championship, I would not be surprised, but I'm not sure they're hoisted trophy yet.

Hewn well, it's much easier to throw it on second and four and third and two, and when you had also it just allows it allows the quarterback to throw on his terms more often than when you're on third and seven and can't run. You're throwing on the defense's terms. So I think if Joe Mixon a real workhorse, a power runner with speed, I think if he's healthy, Houston can win their division and win a playoff game. I don't think they're quite mature enough or ready for They remind me of Green Bay in the NFC. If they got to the conference championship, I would not be surprised, but I'm not sure they're hoisted trophy yet.

Well, no Nicocollins, and I was worried about Diggs against Christian Godales. Diggs did it, had a great game. Digs was very good catch and everything. I missed this in the handicap. The Patriots six games now have started six different offensive lines to begin the game.

Well, no Nicocollins, and I was worried about Diggs against Christian Godales. Diggs did it, had a great game. Digs was very good catch and everything. I missed this in the handicap. The Patriots six games now have started six different offensive lines to begin the game.

That's how bad they're so beat up.

That's how bad they're so beat up.

Colin, their starting center for Drake May's first start, was a practice squad player on the Raiders last week and they just brought him over. That's how desperate they are.

Colin, their starting center for Drake May's first start, was a practice squad player on the Raiders last week and they just brought him over. That's how desperate they are.

Patriots could be, could be the worst team in the league.

Patriots could be, could be the worst team in the league.

It's oh, I think they are. I think the Raiders.

It's oh, I think they are. I think the Raiders.

Panthers are definitely down there.

Panthers are definitely down there.

Panthers are They're really I think it's I think it's And my takeaway is when we get to the draft, everybody's going to understand that Chaduere Sanders is the number one and everybody's gonna understand Travis Hunters the second best player in the country. Oh, I think he's going to be number two. I think Colorado's got the two best players in the sport, and then I think, I don't think they have any in the next fifty.

Panthers are They're really I think it's I think it's And my takeaway is when we get to the draft, everybody's going to understand that Chaduere Sanders is the number one and everybody's gonna understand Travis Hunters the second best player in the country. Oh, I think he's going to be number two. I think Colorado's got the two best players in the sport, and then I think, I don't think they have any in the next fifty.

I know you were party on Saturday night, but were you really boozing it up? I mean, were you watching that Colorado game and you're like, come on.

I know you were party on Saturday night, but were you really boozing it up? I mean, were you watching that Colorado game and you're like, come on.

Hot, Shadeur's could he's got something? They were driving for a they were driving for a score at the end, and I'm talking no run game, two receivers out. Kid throws from four hundred yards.

Hot, Shadeur's could he's got something? They were driving for a they were driving for a score at the end, and I'm talking no run game, two receivers out. Kid throws from four hundred yards.

He's he's good, But like, I'm not saying he's a slam dunk number one.

He's he's good, But like, I'm not saying he's a slam dunk number one.

I do after this weekend. I don't think he's Caleb Williams as a prospect. I don't.