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All right, it's our two. We go to Joel Klatt and the Big Tall Media Days in a couple of minutes live in Chicago. It's the Herd wherever you may be, however you may be listening. Thanks for making us part of your day. I am off tomorrow and next week doing a little travel with my son as we embark on the NBA Finals. I think the Knicks are in trouble. Indiana wraps up tonight. I think okac rold Minnesota last night, and so j Mack will be here instead and we'll do a great job as always. I think Jamick, you brought something up that's interesting. During the last hour you said I was a quarterback elitist.

All right, it's our two. We go to Joel Klatt and the Big Tall Media Days in a couple of minutes live in Chicago. It's the Herd wherever you may be, however you may be listening. Thanks for making us part of your day. I am off tomorrow and next week doing a little travel with my son as we embark on the NBA Finals. I think the Knicks are in trouble. Indiana wraps up tonight. I think okac rold Minnesota last night, and so j Mack will be here instead and we'll do a great job as always. I think Jamick, you brought something up that's interesting. During the last hour you said I was a quarterback elitist.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Do I look at quarterbacks who are taken in the first round or early second round? Is different. I'll give you an example I think you can make an argument that every great quarterback in the league now there is something that is wow. Mahomes arm talent, Wow, Wow, I'm throwing it left handed. Josh Allen about six different sixty six two point fifty. I mean just he is the wow quarterback of my life. He in l Way, Lamar Jackson athletically Wow. I think Joe Burrow's precision throwing. It's a lot like Jayden Daniels. These guys are so accurate under pressure, bad offensive lines. Jayden Daniels and Burrow. It's like whoa like right now? So Herbert size arm Wow Wow. Even Russell Wilson or a Kyler Murray, though diminutive, their elusiveness in their prime is like, it's next level, Like it's wow. So Jalen Hurts, though not a first rounder, he was a second rounder. His wow is strength. He squats six hundred pounds. We have a play in the NFL that's unstoppable, that doesn't work with any other team because Jalen Hurts is so strong. So Jalen does have a wow. It's a weird wow. I've never talked about a quarterback squatting before, but it's a wow. That is the knock on third, fourth, fifth, sixth, and seventh round and undrafted quarterbacks. So wow, who don't.

Do I look at quarterbacks who are taken in the first round or early second round? Is different. I'll give you an example I think you can make an argument that every great quarterback in the league now there is something that is wow. Mahomes arm talent, Wow, Wow, I'm throwing it left handed. Josh Allen about six different sixty six two point fifty. I mean just he is the wow quarterback of my life. He in l Way, Lamar Jackson athletically Wow. I think Joe Burrow's precision throwing. It's a lot like Jayden Daniels. These guys are so accurate under pressure, bad offensive lines. Jayden Daniels and Burrow. It's like whoa like right now? So Herbert size arm Wow Wow. Even Russell Wilson or a Kyler Murray, though diminutive, their elusiveness in their prime is like, it's next level, Like it's wow. So Jalen Hurts, though not a first rounder, he was a second rounder. His wow is strength. He squats six hundred pounds. We have a play in the NFL that's unstoppable, that doesn't work with any other team because Jalen Hurts is so strong. So Jalen does have a wow. It's a weird wow. I've never talked about a quarterback squatting before, but it's a wow. That is the knock on third, fourth, fifth, sixth, and seventh round and undrafted quarterbacks. So wow, who don't.

Have a wow? They just happen to rank one and two all time in the history of football at the position of quarterback. Sixth round Tom Brady and third rounder Joe Montana neither has a wow, but they're basically considered the greatest quarterbacks in NFL history.

Have a wow? They just happen to rank one and two all time in the history of football at the position of quarterback. Sixth round Tom Brady and third rounder Joe Montana neither has a wow, but they're basically considered the greatest quarterbacks in NFL history.

Okay, So in that era, not everybody was allowed to play quarterback. There was a certain style and size and boxes you had to check. And over the last ten to twelve years fifteen years, Michael Vick to me, really changed the game that people went, oh, what if we put our best athlete at quarterback? And so high school coaches, college coaches, NFL coaches, now you have the best athlete on the team, often as the quarterback. That was never the case in the Montana Brady drafting era. So the world has changed. It's like trying to compare Babe Ruth to Bryce Harper. Nutrition nobody through sliders. The sport is global. So Brady and Montana are in a completely different era of what what coaches, GMS owners, what they're looking for, and what's allowed to play quarterback.

Okay, So in that era, not everybody was allowed to play quarterback. There was a certain style and size and boxes you had to check. And over the last ten to twelve years fifteen years, Michael Vick to me, really changed the game that people went, oh, what if we put our best athlete at quarterback? And so high school coaches, college coaches, NFL coaches, now you have the best athlete on the team, often as the quarterback. That was never the case in the Montana Brady drafting era. So the world has changed. It's like trying to compare Babe Ruth to Bryce Harper. Nutrition nobody through sliders. The sport is global. So Brady and Montana are in a completely different era of what what coaches, GMS owners, what they're looking for, and what's allowed to play quarterback.

I suppose you could play that card, but it's weird because I don't hear you say about them, Well, they had two of the greatest coaches in football history in Belichick and Bill Walsh.

I suppose you could play that card, but it's weird because I don't hear you say about them, Well, they had two of the greatest coaches in football history in Belichick and Bill Walsh.

Well you don't play.

Well you don't play.

That like they had stacked rosters.

That like they had stacked rosters.

Well, no, no, I have talked about that. There are no great quarterbacks without great coaches. Bradshaw had nol Fouts had Coriel, Brady had Belichick, Apeman had Jimmy Johnson, Montana had Walsh, so did Steve Young Farv had home Grin. I mean, you see a trend here. Jalen Hurts is one with two different whoa whoa. But let's that's that's why, let's let's slow down on Jalen Hurts is great, He's not. He's Greg Cosell knows more about this than anybody that in the country, arguably that goes on TV. Greg Cosell said this about Russell Wilson in his prime, Colin, he misses open throws. That's exactly what he said with Jalen Hurts. He said, there's for the record, he was very critical of Aaron Rodgers for years, saying he's like a jazz musician. He plays to his own notes. He leaves completions on the field. Jalen Hurts is not a great quarterback. Burrow Mahomes allan if Jalen Hurts was on the market, you think you think ca into Cities calling Cincinnati's calling. No, there now, Baltimore, there are quarterbacks better. So though you're you're you get it because you're an underdog in life. I think you view that. So you love Austin Reeves and you but realize that is part of your narrative that you love the second, third, fourth, fifth. You can do that with Puka Nakula or a corner overwhelmingly left tackles and star quarterbacks over Marino.

Well, no, no, I have talked about that. There are no great quarterbacks without great coaches. Bradshaw had nol Fouts had Coriel, Brady had Belichick, Apeman had Jimmy Johnson, Montana had Walsh, so did Steve Young Farv had home Grin. I mean, you see a trend here. Jalen Hurts is one with two different whoa whoa. But let's that's that's why, let's let's slow down on Jalen Hurts is great, He's not. He's Greg Cosell knows more about this than anybody that in the country, arguably that goes on TV. Greg Cosell said this about Russell Wilson in his prime, Colin, he misses open throws. That's exactly what he said with Jalen Hurts. He said, there's for the record, he was very critical of Aaron Rodgers for years, saying he's like a jazz musician. He plays to his own notes. He leaves completions on the field. Jalen Hurts is not a great quarterback. Burrow Mahomes allan if Jalen Hurts was on the market, you think you think ca into Cities calling Cincinnati's calling. No, there now, Baltimore, there are quarterbacks better. So though you're you're you get it because you're an underdog in life. I think you view that. So you love Austin Reeves and you but realize that is part of your narrative that you love the second, third, fourth, fifth. You can do that with Puka Nakula or a corner overwhelmingly left tackles and star quarterbacks over Marino.

So is there any ways can do besides you know, out playing Mahomes at a Super Bowl and then winning a Super Bowl MVP? Is there anything you can do to get into your upper crust of Wow?

So is there any ways can do besides you know, out playing Mahomes at a Super Bowl and then winning a Super Bowl MVP? Is there anything you can do to get into your upper crust of Wow?

Yes, let's see six more six more years of PFF not saying the weakness of the Eagles is the passing.

Yes, let's see six more six more years of PFF not saying the weakness of the Eagles is the passing.

Game, which it is, so there's nothing Hurts can do on the field.

Game, which it is, so there's nothing Hurts can do on the field.

No, let's get better at the quarterback position like aunt is an SGA and Yoki. I'm watching the games he's not. He's not close to Jokic. I mean, Jokis should have could have beaten OKC with an old, banged up roster. Guy's just big and ran out of gas and didn't run out of gas and ran out of stuff. He just doesn't have the elements needed. So that's what I said about PFFF. They're right. The weakness of Philadelphia is is Jalen gonna be good in the pocket because he's not regularly. It's not a knock on him. But remember, it's just like anything else. If you get if you get admitted to Oxford over in the UK, there is something that the administration sees and goes, wow, it could be your sat it could be your experience. It generally to get drafted in the first round, you have got this. And I think scouting is better today than it's ever been. I think it's smarter. I think fans are smarter in order to get drafted at the top of a NFL draft, even if you're a bus thirty percent of the first round is a bus is something. I mean Quentin Johnson for the Chargers has not worked out. The dude is six' five and it runs world class. Speed now does he run the right? Routes does he always catch the? Ball is he? Consistent? No but there is wow. There you see him in the hotel, Lobby you're, Like, okay you see The Boise state guy who's a better, player and you're likely. Small he's not a, Burner so you have to. Contextualize some of it is. Systems some of it is who's the offensive? Coordinate CAN i ask you one more?

No, let's get better at the quarterback position like aunt is an SGA and Yoki. I'm watching the games he's not. He's not close to Jokic. I mean, Jokis should have could have beaten OKC with an old, banged up roster. Guy's just big and ran out of gas and didn't run out of gas and ran out of stuff. He just doesn't have the elements needed. So that's what I said about PFFF. They're right. The weakness of Philadelphia is is Jalen gonna be good in the pocket because he's not regularly. It's not a knock on him. But remember, it's just like anything else. If you get if you get admitted to Oxford over in the UK, there is something that the administration sees and goes, wow, it could be your sat it could be your experience. It generally to get drafted in the first round, you have got this. And I think scouting is better today than it's ever been. I think it's smarter. I think fans are smarter in order to get drafted at the top of a NFL draft, even if you're a bus thirty percent of the first round is a bus is something. I mean Quentin Johnson for the Chargers has not worked out. The dude is six' five and it runs world class. Speed now does he run the right? Routes does he always catch the? Ball is he? Consistent? No but there is wow. There you see him in the hotel, Lobby you're, Like, okay you see The Boise state guy who's a better, player and you're likely. Small he's not a, Burner so you have to. Contextualize some of it is. Systems some of it is who's the offensive? Coordinate CAN i ask you one more?

Thing? So AND i Love Justin. Herbert i'm a huge. FAN i think he's gonna be. Great he has zero career playoff, wins he Has Jim harbaugh and now as his head. Coach and you're, Saying Jalen hurts with The Super BOWL, mvp, yes and total dominance can do nothing to get.

Thing? So AND i Love Justin. Herbert i'm a huge. FAN i think he's gonna be. Great he has zero career playoff, wins he Has Jim harbaugh and now as his head. Coach and you're, Saying Jalen hurts with The Super BOWL, mvp, yes and total dominance can do nothing to get.

In just let me ask you. THIS a trust fund guy has more money than. You does that make him a better worker and smarter than? You what's around him that thirty two thousand a month he gets From? Gramps by the, Way last, year this is gonna be a hard. One last, Year jalen hurts through for fewer yards Than Daniel? Jones is it a passing yards? CONTEST i would rather Win Super bowls than throw for as in yards than win. Nothing, again you're conflating Super bowls with better. Quarterback Trent, Dilford Brad, Johnson Joe flacco And Nick foles have Trophies marino dozen fifty. YEARS i, mean well they're.

In just let me ask you. THIS a trust fund guy has more money than. You does that make him a better worker and smarter than? You what's around him that thirty two thousand a month he gets From? Gramps by the, Way last, year this is gonna be a hard. One last, Year jalen hurts through for fewer yards Than Daniel? Jones is it a passing yards? CONTEST i would rather Win Super bowls than throw for as in yards than win. Nothing, again you're conflating Super bowls with better. Quarterback Trent, Dilford Brad, Johnson Joe flacco And Nick foles have Trophies marino dozen fifty. YEARS i, mean well they're.

Outliers would you agree those guys that wants to win A Super bowl is not just.

Outliers would you agree those guys that wants to win A Super bowl is not just.

Looney it's not rubbing off a lottery. Ticket you have to beat multiple good teams off and on the. ROAD i, Mean Nick foles Beat Tom brady And, belichick And belichick had one of his best super. Bowls belichick Was brady was. Flawless they couldn't stop at. ME i don't Think New england. PUNTED i Mean brady was flawless and he beat. Him so, again you love the, UNDERDOG i. DON'T i just like. Talent, HOWEVER i don't care if it's a. PODCASTER i don't care if it's a. QUARTERBACK i don't get anything out Of well he came from the fifth. Round, well he's cheaper for a few, years but the guy in the first round is probably bigger and. Stronger by the, Way John elway is the best quarterback prospect. Ever he got blown out for years In Super. Bowls why had no running, game he didn't have the elements needed around, him but he was getting a pretty limited roster at. Times to The Super, bowl by the, Way Buffalo Jim kelly never won A Super. Bowl Jim kelly's an incredible. Quarterback he was Facing Jimmy Johnson's. Cowboys you, know they had one game, AGAIN i think The, giants and they lost that and The Scott norwood. Thing but the reality is is that you. Can't that's Why i've never bought into. This, Well jordan's six for, Six Robert horry's won seven. Titles we're not going to contextualize. IT i, mean we're not going to contextualize That robert or has more championships Than Charles. Barkley we're just going to, say, well it's. CHAMPIONSHIPS i don't think those are the be all end. All so many things have to go, Right, like by the, way much easier now to get to THE Nba finals out of The east than it is out of The. West it's much easier to get to the playoffs out of THE acc that it is out of The Big ten or THE. Sec so you could be a really good team in The Big ten that you could beat. Everybody you could beat The brakes off everybody outside of Maybe. Clemson you can't even get into the playoffs out of THE. SEC i largely agree championships aren't. EVERYTHING i Have lebron Over. Jordan lebron has fewer. Championships but at some POINT.

Looney it's not rubbing off a lottery. Ticket you have to beat multiple good teams off and on the. ROAD i, Mean Nick foles Beat Tom brady And, belichick And belichick had one of his best super. Bowls belichick Was brady was. Flawless they couldn't stop at. ME i don't Think New england. PUNTED i Mean brady was flawless and he beat. Him so, again you love the, UNDERDOG i. DON'T i just like. Talent, HOWEVER i don't care if it's a. PODCASTER i don't care if it's a. QUARTERBACK i don't get anything out Of well he came from the fifth. Round, well he's cheaper for a few, years but the guy in the first round is probably bigger and. Stronger by the, Way John elway is the best quarterback prospect. Ever he got blown out for years In Super. Bowls why had no running, game he didn't have the elements needed around, him but he was getting a pretty limited roster at. Times to The Super, bowl by the, Way Buffalo Jim kelly never won A Super. Bowl Jim kelly's an incredible. Quarterback he was Facing Jimmy Johnson's. Cowboys you, know they had one game, AGAIN i think The, giants and they lost that and The Scott norwood. Thing but the reality is is that you. Can't that's Why i've never bought into. This, Well jordan's six for, Six Robert horry's won seven. Titles we're not going to contextualize. IT i, mean we're not going to contextualize That robert or has more championships Than Charles. Barkley we're just going to, say, well it's. CHAMPIONSHIPS i don't think those are the be all end. All so many things have to go, Right, like by the, way much easier now to get to THE Nba finals out of The east than it is out of The. West it's much easier to get to the playoffs out of THE acc that it is out of The Big ten or THE. Sec so you could be a really good team in The Big ten that you could beat. Everybody you could beat The brakes off everybody outside of Maybe. Clemson you can't even get into the playoffs out of THE. SEC i largely agree championships aren't. EVERYTHING i Have lebron Over. Jordan lebron has fewer. Championships but at some POINT.

I think we got to, say, like hey, man we've got to look at the quarterback position differently than we did, five, ten fifteen years. Ago jalen hurts just because he's different and a dual threat guy who squat six hundred pounds and was drafted in the second, round it doesn't mean he's not better right now than just in.

I think we got to, say, like hey, man we've got to look at the quarterback position differently than we did, five, ten fifteen years. Ago jalen hurts just because he's different and a dual threat guy who squat six hundred pounds and was drafted in the second, round it doesn't mean he's not better right now than just in.

Eath this is What tim Tebow wance came up to, me and he, Goes, colin you AND i just. Disagree there's more than one way to win in THE. Nfl AND i, said, no there's, Not, Tim AND i told him to his, face, no there's Not. Tim you got to be better in the. Pocket Greg hosel says it every. Week you can run, around you can squat six hundred. Pounds you have to have a stacked roster to win Super bowls if you're not elite in the. Pocket Joe burrow got to A Super bowl with an ATROCIOUS o line and a mediocre. Defense that is a plus. Plus that's taking a bad script and a bad director and Getting oscar nominated even if you don't win The. Oscar to get nominated when the script's. Okay that is. Acting to take an average script as a director and get nominated for A Golden. Globe that is. Directing it's not being Handed Tom cruise the mission, impossible like if the director retired today From mission, impossible getting that series that, inertia that momentum cruise and, saying, yeah we made four hundred and eighty million. Dollars you better because everything that surrounds you in the momentum with, it remember.

Eath this is What tim Tebow wance came up to, me and he, Goes, colin you AND i just. Disagree there's more than one way to win in THE. Nfl AND i, said, no there's, Not, Tim AND i told him to his, face, no there's Not. Tim you got to be better in the. Pocket Greg hosel says it every. Week you can run, around you can squat six hundred. Pounds you have to have a stacked roster to win Super bowls if you're not elite in the. Pocket Joe burrow got to A Super bowl with an ATROCIOUS o line and a mediocre. Defense that is a plus. Plus that's taking a bad script and a bad director and Getting oscar nominated even if you don't win The. Oscar to get nominated when the script's. Okay that is. Acting to take an average script as a director and get nominated for A Golden. Globe that is. Directing it's not being Handed Tom cruise the mission, impossible like if the director retired today From mission, impossible getting that series that, inertia that momentum cruise and, saying, yeah we made four hundred and eighty million. Dollars you better because everything that surrounds you in the momentum with, it remember.

Hurts though he's essentially gotten nominated for Two oscars with two different. Directors at some point we got to look and, say, man it can't just be the. Coach it can't be the roster the.

Hurts though he's essentially gotten nominated for Two oscars with two different. Directors at some point we got to look and, say, man it can't just be the. Coach it can't be the roster the.

Director in Philid the director In philadelphia Is Howie. Roseman it's not the.

Director in Philid the director In philadelphia Is Howie. Roseman it's not the.

Coach so it's now THE gm that, okay got it.

Coach so it's now THE gm that, okay got it.

Well he is viewed as the BEST, gm arguably in the history of the. League, yes he is. VIEWED i, MEAN i don't think any of us deny the secret sauce of The. Lions Dan campbell's done a good. Job it's the guy upstairs that doesn't miss on draft. Picks So Howie roseman is a historic outlier that we look at the secret. Sauce it's not quarterback and it's NOT i mean they Stole Saquon barkley from their. Rival like that's different. Level GMing to me that How he's in a different. Class philadelphia's story is About, Mahomes reed And Brett, veach that all of them are absolutely and The hunt family. SOLID i mean The rams story is you, know it's a lot McVeigh gets At Stafford kronkey less. Neat BUT i mean in The philadelphia story is OWNER gm are really really. Good Ow Jalen hurts is Watching, JALEN i love you sound you sound like you love him.

Well he is viewed as the BEST, gm arguably in the history of the. League, yes he is. VIEWED i, MEAN i don't think any of us deny the secret sauce of The. Lions Dan campbell's done a good. Job it's the guy upstairs that doesn't miss on draft. Picks So Howie roseman is a historic outlier that we look at the secret. Sauce it's not quarterback and it's NOT i mean they Stole Saquon barkley from their. Rival like that's different. Level GMing to me that How he's in a different. Class philadelphia's story is About, Mahomes reed And Brett, veach that all of them are absolutely and The hunt family. SOLID i mean The rams story is you, know it's a lot McVeigh gets At Stafford kronkey less. Neat BUT i mean in The philadelphia story is OWNER gm are really really. Good Ow Jalen hurts is Watching, JALEN i love you sound you sound like you love him.

Either, no, no, no it's A.

Either, no, no, no it's A.

Gm, WELL i think the franchise isn't About Nick. CERIANI i think we both. Agree if you look at that, roster it's like the HELL i, mean PFF's like they don't have a weakness, WELL i mean other than the passing. Game and by the, way their passing game has lots of Good. Sundays it's not like it's, terrible it's just not as. GOOD i mean, again when you have to pick a weakness With, philadelphia that is the. Weakness joel klats around the. Corner it's The.

Gm, WELL i think the franchise isn't About Nick. CERIANI i think we both. Agree if you look at that, roster it's like the HELL i, mean PFF's like they don't have a weakness, WELL i mean other than the passing. Game and by the, way their passing game has lots of Good. Sundays it's not like it's, terrible it's just not as. GOOD i mean, again when you have to pick a weakness With, philadelphia that is the. Weakness joel klats around the. Corner it's The.

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Debates, Today Joel klatt's going to be joining us in about five. Minutes but, first J mack with the. News, no, no, no turn on the.

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News this is The Herd line.

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Fun by the, WAY i checked my phone. In let's just, say a lot of my friends In, pennsylvania for WHERE i used to, live are very upset with you for your failure, slander AND i will leave it at, That, colin all, right let's get started with The Los Angeles. Lakers one of the best teams in THE nba this. YEAR i think they finished third in The. West. Right they are looking for bargain deals this, Offseason, Colin are they gonna be able to find? One given you know they don't want to part With Austin. Reeves it looks like this should be a good offseason for. Them obviously they're looking at. Center they need a Rim, runner someone to join force With. Luca your thoughts on The Lakers morgan hunting this.

Fun by the, WAY i checked my phone. In let's just, say a lot of my friends In, pennsylvania for WHERE i used to, live are very upset with you for your failure, slander AND i will leave it at, That, colin all, right let's get started with The Los Angeles. Lakers one of the best teams in THE nba this. YEAR i think they finished third in The. West. Right they are looking for bargain deals this, Offseason, Colin are they gonna be able to find? One given you know they don't want to part With Austin. Reeves it looks like this should be a good offseason for. Them obviously they're looking at. Center they need a Rim, runner someone to join force With. Luca your thoughts on The Lakers morgan hunting this.

Offseason, yeah, yeah bargains are gonna Beat okac And. Indy, okay, yeah. OKAY i mean that's. Fine if you want to get a used car eighty eight thousand miles in the odometer and you think that's gonna be To bentley And, okac knock yourself, out but it's.

Offseason, yeah, yeah bargains are gonna Beat okac And. Indy, okay, yeah. OKAY i mean that's. Fine if you want to get a used car eighty eight thousand miles in the odometer and you think that's gonna be To bentley And, okac knock yourself, out but it's.

Not, wait, okay s's all of a sudden A BENTLEY.

Not, wait, okay s's all of a sudden A BENTLEY.

Jj reddick will not Play Jackson. Hayes, well he's, unpleased sore they have they have one big AND Jj reddick doesn't like. Him and by the, way the thunder have two bigs and The knicks have two big and The pacers have two. BIGGS i, mean you Got Miles turner And siakam really highly, capable OR i can Get hartenstein or Chet holm grew or you, KNOW i, mean look at what you're going up. Again and then this is both A laker and A warrior. Problem ALTHOUGH i like The warrior's future. Better is these teams now that are at the. Top they got two. BIGS i, like you don't have ANY Jj ruddick doesn't like the one big they, have and you want to go bargain.

Jj reddick will not Play Jackson. Hayes, well he's, unpleased sore they have they have one big AND Jj reddick doesn't like. Him and by the, way the thunder have two bigs and The knicks have two big and The pacers have two. BIGGS i, mean you Got Miles turner And siakam really highly, capable OR i can Get hartenstein or Chet holm grew or you, KNOW i, mean look at what you're going up. Again and then this is both A laker and A warrior. Problem ALTHOUGH i like The warrior's future. Better is these teams now that are at the. Top they got two. BIGS i, like you don't have ANY Jj ruddick doesn't like the one big they, have and you want to go bargain.

Shopping come, off mister Anti. Laker just keep it, up all. Right let's go To Anthony Edwards. Colin he had a Rough conference finals there AGAINST, okac despite only winning one game last year Against dallas and this year AGAINST. Okc Ant, man WHO i believe is twenty three years, old is not concerned about getting back.

Shopping come, off mister Anti. Laker just keep it, up all. Right let's go To Anthony Edwards. Colin he had a Rough conference finals there AGAINST, okac despite only winning one game last year Against dallas and this year AGAINST. Okc Ant, man WHO i believe is twenty three years, old is not concerned about getting back.

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Here and what people would think he were.

HURT i mean it's deciding for. Me i'm twenty.

HURT i mean it's deciding for. Me i'm twenty.

THREE i get to do it a whole bunch of. Times i'm, hurt more so for myself For. MIKE i came up sure For. Mike LIKE i, said we try last. Year we can't get it With triggan this year or trying next. Year but harding is a terrible war to. Use i'm good.

THREE i get to do it a whole bunch of. Times i'm, hurt more so for myself For. MIKE i came up sure For. Mike LIKE i, said we try last. Year we can't get it With triggan this year or trying next. Year but harding is a terrible war to. Use i'm good.

Now there is this trend that teams look, unbelievable like The celtics last year and don't make it back Or denver the previous year and don't make it. Back so are we hyper ventilating here on okc's, DEFENSE i would say, yes IF sga got hurt, yes if you've got to eventually Pay sga And Jalen. WILLIAMS i could See Jalen williams at some point like the Hardened Oka see. TEAM i could See Jalen, williams you, know going somewhere because they just can't pay. EVERYBODY i could see by the Way yannis going To San antonio and, changing and then all of a, sudden The spurs look like with their roster they can do. It SO i do think we tend to recency, bias fall in. Love But sga is the league's leading scorer and just going into his, prime and the roster's. Ridiculous the GM's, great the coach is, outstanding and their number two and three players are only getting. Better it's it's hard to overlook.

Now there is this trend that teams look, unbelievable like The celtics last year and don't make it back Or denver the previous year and don't make it. Back so are we hyper ventilating here on okc's, DEFENSE i would say, yes IF sga got hurt, yes if you've got to eventually Pay sga And Jalen. WILLIAMS i could See Jalen williams at some point like the Hardened Oka see. TEAM i could See Jalen, williams you, know going somewhere because they just can't pay. EVERYBODY i could see by the Way yannis going To San antonio and, changing and then all of a, sudden The spurs look like with their roster they can do. It SO i do think we tend to recency, bias fall in. Love But sga is the league's leading scorer and just going into his, prime and the roster's. Ridiculous the GM's, great the coach is, outstanding and their number two and three players are only getting. Better it's it's hard to overlook.

THAT i, MEAN i wonder If giannis is sitting at, Home colin and looking at this and, Saying, huh where CAN i get a stacked team to take these guys? Down do? You BECAUSE i, mean going to The spurs is, interesting BUT i don't know that that makes them ready right now to. DOMINATE i think about The knicks are way closer right now than The spurs are for winning a.

THAT i, MEAN i wonder If giannis is sitting at, Home colin and looking at this and, Saying, huh where CAN i get a stacked team to take these guys? Down do? You BECAUSE i, mean going to The spurs is, interesting BUT i don't know that that makes them ready right now to. DOMINATE i think about The knicks are way closer right now than The spurs are for winning a.

Title next, year we'll see Chat holmgren And Jalen williams are eligible for rookie. Extensions between the, two it'll be five hundred ninety two. Million SO i mean you Can't that's, right you can't pay. Everybody my guess is they'll Keep Home groun because he's he's he's a little bit of a you, know there's not many guys that can operate at that height and that can do the things he can do offensively like A kd at that, height he's holler THAN. KD i would Keep Home groun, size rim protection and a union offensive, body AND i would KEEP. Sga so, so, okay they won't be as good Without. Williams so there are openings with a NEW cba and the multiple, aprons there are openings that the league is not built for. DYNASTIES i think it, is but BUT i will say of all the recent, Dynasties, okay, see with two first, rounders is really really set up to make a.

Title next, year we'll see Chat holmgren And Jalen williams are eligible for rookie. Extensions between the, two it'll be five hundred ninety two. Million SO i mean you Can't that's, right you can't pay. Everybody my guess is they'll Keep Home groun because he's he's he's a little bit of a you, know there's not many guys that can operate at that height and that can do the things he can do offensively like A kd at that, height he's holler THAN. KD i would Keep Home groun, size rim protection and a union offensive, body AND i would KEEP. Sga so, so, okay they won't be as good Without. Williams so there are openings with a NEW cba and the multiple, aprons there are openings that the league is not built for. DYNASTIES i think it, is but BUT i will say of all the recent, Dynasties, okay, see with two first, rounders is really really set up to make a.

Run whether or not that's good for the, league we'll talk about it a later. Date final, Story colin is The Houston texans added a weapon FOR. Cj. Stroud they signed Former Jacksonville Jaguar Christian. Kirk Houston number one Receiver Nico collins talked about the Impact kirk will have on the. Offense here's what he had to.

Run whether or not that's good for the, league we'll talk about it a later. Date final, Story colin is The Houston texans added a weapon FOR. Cj. Stroud they signed Former Jacksonville Jaguar Christian. Kirk Houston number one Receiver Nico collins talked about the Impact kirk will have on the. Offense here's what he had to.

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Say slop, Majicent, man you know he's a slab, meagine, man you know he and a slot going.

Crazy you know that's one.

Crazy you know that's one.

Guy you need another, playmaker you, know need to know the guy on. Offense you know that's gonna make.

Guy you need another, playmaker you, know need to know the guy on. Offense you know that's gonna make.

Plays and that's one.

Plays and that's one.

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Though, YEAH i mean last year their receivers fell, apart.

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Soll it digs got.

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Hurt just two.

Items Number, ONE i saw on THAT pff List houston had like the seventh best. Roster that's. Insane they are not that good of a, roster way. Overblown And, Second Christian kirk underwhelmed With Trevor, lawrence this idea that he's gonna be a game. TAGER i don't.

Items Number, ONE i saw on THAT pff List houston had like the seventh best. Roster that's. Insane they are not that good of a, roster way. Overblown And, Second Christian kirk underwhelmed With Trevor, lawrence this idea that he's gonna be a game. TAGER i don't.

Know i'm kind of Off.

Know i'm kind of Off.

Houston i'm not feeling it the offensive. LINE i JUST i don't love WHAT i see the coaching.

Houston i'm not feeling it the offensive. LINE i JUST i don't love WHAT i see the coaching.

Staff, REMEMBER i.

Staff, REMEMBER i.

Don't, know, man what AM i missing?

Don't, know, man what AM i missing?

HERE i like the, COACH i like the, quarterback don't like the ownership. Situation but we have to REMEMBER Afc, south The colts do not know who's going to quarterback The, jaguars regardless of It's Urban, meyer if It's Doug, peterson, like it doesn't work down. There SO i AND i Think tennessee with Cam ward could be really. Interesting but he is a. Rookie so when people SAY i DON'T i don't know IF i Love, HOUSTON i don't know IF i love him, Either BUT i don't know IF i Love. TAMPA i Like Baker mayfield in the A Nfc south playing The saints who don't know what they're doing at quarterback and Playing carolina who hasn't proven they can win. Consistently so a lot of this stuff is you, know who are you? Playing that's. There jmack with the.

HERE i like the, COACH i like the, quarterback don't like the ownership. Situation but we have to REMEMBER Afc, south The colts do not know who's going to quarterback The, jaguars regardless of It's Urban, meyer if It's Doug, peterson, like it doesn't work down. There SO i AND i Think tennessee with Cam ward could be really. Interesting but he is a. Rookie so when people SAY i DON'T i don't know IF i Love, HOUSTON i don't know IF i love him, Either BUT i don't know IF i Love. TAMPA i Like Baker mayfield in the A Nfc south playing The saints who don't know what they're doing at quarterback and Playing carolina who hasn't proven they can win. Consistently so a lot of this stuff is you, know who are you? Playing that's. There jmack with the.

News well that's the, news and thanks for stopping by The Herd Line.

News well that's the, news and thanks for stopping by The Herd Line.

News by the, way you, Know i've been talking today about THE pff rankings the best rosters in THE. Nfl The Pittsburgh steeters are twenty, first so their strength is defensive. Line THE x Factors Aaron rodgers if he, signs and the rookie to watch is running Back Caleb. Johnson we'll see their weakness a below average. Offense so you, know Maybe, AARON i mean Maybe aaron hasn't signed with The steeters because he does his own research and he went TO pff and he's seen. This so there are certain big brands in, sports And i'm talking like these big all time brands that because of either a loopy front office dysfunction inability to. EVOLVE i just don't consider championship Teams dallas And, Dallas chicago and The. Steelers NOW i Think chicago's finally got the coach in the, quarterback BUT i would say The steelers and The cowboys sort of fall into. This where the good news about THE nfl you can fix it. QUICKLY i, Mean detroit was a laughingstock even With Matt, stafford and then they hired the RIGHT gm and they have a stack. Roster and for the years and, years like fifteen, years twenty, Years washington was a mess and they got a really cool, owner less dysfunctional, owner and a great. Quarterback so THE nfl does allow you to very swiftly. Change even in THE, nba The knicks they got the, President Leon, rose they Got Jalen, brunson their star point guard slash, quarterback and you, know it doesn't take long to do. It in pro sports what's concerning about The steelers is that they have stable, ownership and they have stable, coaching and they have a stable front, office and they still remain incredibly tone deaf to the CURRENT nfl like your life basically is a product of your, priorities and in THE, nfl your franchise and your roster is a product of your. Priorities and The, steeters once, again for the third straight, year maybe fourth in an offensive, league led THE nfl in defensive. Spending, now some of it, is we got to give credit where credits to some of it. Is this stuff all got really bad when Big ben. Left AND i probably never gave Big ben kind of the love he deserved BECAUSE i was so fascinated With Brady manning and Then mahomes is THAT i always felt like Big ben was a notch. Below but we have to be. Honest since Big ben, left he masked a lot of the. Issues since he, left The steelers average nineteen points a, game and by the, way their red zone touchdown percentage under. Half so they're twenty, seventh twenty, seventh twenty four to twenty ninth last three. Season some of, THIS i, mean, Listen brady Left New england With belichick tone deft, Offense Big ben Leaves pittsburgh mess, offensively not mess as a, franchise not mess as a. Coach so maybe it's as simple as. This brady masked a very defensive first culture and When brady, left it was a bit of a house of. Cards And Big ben masked a lot of the problems In pittsburgh. Offensively he was so. Gifted he leaves and you can see they don't know what they're doing. Offensively so it could just be, that you, know Green bay never gets into that situation Because Green bay drags quarterbacks three four years before they're going to. Play but Maybe i'm too hard On pittsburgh and not hard enough On New england because the Star hall Of fame quarterback leaves and both feel like they don't even get. OFFENSE i Mean New england it's putting a defensive coordinator offensive, coordinator like what are we? Doing And pittsburgh again is just spending all their money on. Defense what are you? Doing so maybe it's as simple as. That but A pff has The steelers at a twenty first best roster we talked about to lead the, show and we'll talk about it more third. Hour BUT i think one of the things in THE, nba AND i Like Jason tatum a. Lot he's a great player ALL. Nba BUT i think What jokic did a couple of years ago and what he's become and WHAT sga is doing is really the standard that we've all been told you have to do to be a number. One and that's my criticism Of, tatum which, Is, okay you keep telling me for years and years when And lebron would occasionally not take the final shot you. PREACHED i, argued you, preach you got to be the, man got to want the, shot and Mostly lebron, did but none all the. Times so, essentially When i'm critical Of, Tatum i'm just doing the standard that you have. Set you got to be THE mvp of the conference, finals in the, finals.

News by the, way you, Know i've been talking today about THE pff rankings the best rosters in THE. Nfl The Pittsburgh steeters are twenty, first so their strength is defensive. Line THE x Factors Aaron rodgers if he, signs and the rookie to watch is running Back Caleb. Johnson we'll see their weakness a below average. Offense so you, know Maybe, AARON i mean Maybe aaron hasn't signed with The steeters because he does his own research and he went TO pff and he's seen. This so there are certain big brands in, sports And i'm talking like these big all time brands that because of either a loopy front office dysfunction inability to. EVOLVE i just don't consider championship Teams dallas And, Dallas chicago and The. Steelers NOW i Think chicago's finally got the coach in the, quarterback BUT i would say The steelers and The cowboys sort of fall into. This where the good news about THE nfl you can fix it. QUICKLY i, Mean detroit was a laughingstock even With Matt, stafford and then they hired the RIGHT gm and they have a stack. Roster and for the years and, years like fifteen, years twenty, Years washington was a mess and they got a really cool, owner less dysfunctional, owner and a great. Quarterback so THE nfl does allow you to very swiftly. Change even in THE, nba The knicks they got the, President Leon, rose they Got Jalen, brunson their star point guard slash, quarterback and you, know it doesn't take long to do. It in pro sports what's concerning about The steelers is that they have stable, ownership and they have stable, coaching and they have a stable front, office and they still remain incredibly tone deaf to the CURRENT nfl like your life basically is a product of your, priorities and in THE, nfl your franchise and your roster is a product of your. Priorities and The, steeters once, again for the third straight, year maybe fourth in an offensive, league led THE nfl in defensive. Spending, now some of it, is we got to give credit where credits to some of it. Is this stuff all got really bad when Big ben. Left AND i probably never gave Big ben kind of the love he deserved BECAUSE i was so fascinated With Brady manning and Then mahomes is THAT i always felt like Big ben was a notch. Below but we have to be. Honest since Big ben, left he masked a lot of the. Issues since he, left The steelers average nineteen points a, game and by the, way their red zone touchdown percentage under. Half so they're twenty, seventh twenty, seventh twenty four to twenty ninth last three. Season some of, THIS i, mean, Listen brady Left New england With belichick tone deft, Offense Big ben Leaves pittsburgh mess, offensively not mess as a, franchise not mess as a. Coach so maybe it's as simple as. This brady masked a very defensive first culture and When brady, left it was a bit of a house of. Cards And Big ben masked a lot of the problems In pittsburgh. Offensively he was so. Gifted he leaves and you can see they don't know what they're doing. Offensively so it could just be, that you, know Green bay never gets into that situation Because Green bay drags quarterbacks three four years before they're going to. Play but Maybe i'm too hard On pittsburgh and not hard enough On New england because the Star hall Of fame quarterback leaves and both feel like they don't even get. OFFENSE i Mean New england it's putting a defensive coordinator offensive, coordinator like what are we? Doing And pittsburgh again is just spending all their money on. Defense what are you? Doing so maybe it's as simple as. That but A pff has The steelers at a twenty first best roster we talked about to lead the, show and we'll talk about it more third. Hour BUT i think one of the things in THE, nba AND i Like Jason tatum a. Lot he's a great player ALL. Nba BUT i think What jokic did a couple of years ago and what he's become and WHAT sga is doing is really the standard that we've all been told you have to do to be a number. One and that's my criticism Of, tatum which, Is, okay you keep telling me for years and years when And lebron would occasionally not take the final shot you. PREACHED i, argued you, preach you got to be the, man got to want the, shot and Mostly lebron, did but none all the. Times so, essentially When i'm critical Of, Tatum i'm just doing the standard that you have. Set you got to be THE mvp of the conference, finals in the, finals.

Right.

Right.

Sorry there are, exceptions like When durant came to The warriors and he was better Than. Steph BUT i think what you're watching With, sga it's not just the ability to score, points but it's the ability to play well with a really deep. Roster he is a very good teammate as well as being the NBA's lead, scorer and he talks about.

Sorry there are, exceptions like When durant came to The warriors and he was better Than. Steph BUT i think what you're watching With, sga it's not just the ability to score, points but it's the ability to play well with a really deep. Roster he is a very good teammate as well as being the NBA's lead, scorer and he talks about.

It they made THE nba like not feel like a, job and it. Can it's times without the travel and the hard, days the ups and. Downs, NOW i KNOW i sound spoilt being in THE nba and complaining about hard, days but these guys really make it feel Like i'm a kid playing au basketball and fifteen years old. Again like they make it seem like.

It they made THE nba like not feel like a, job and it. Can it's times without the travel and the hard, days the ups and. Downs, NOW i KNOW i sound spoilt being in THE nba and complaining about hard, days but these guys really make it feel Like i'm a kid playing au basketball and fifteen years old. Again like they make it seem like.

Like it's just.

Like it's just.

Fun AND i think that's what makes us really, Good like we have so much fun being out there. Together, yeah it's.

Fun AND i think that's what makes us really, Good like we have so much fun being out there. Together, yeah it's.

Interesting so all year, long whenever they would do like a postgame show on their, broadcast they would all join. In it's very, collegiate like very very. Collegiate and it's funny Because i've said this, before you, know to people in my, business is that when we had WHEN i got a job In, VEGAS i had no, money we all went out to drink beers together and pitched it into buy like chicken. Wings and then everybody makes more money IN tv and you hang out less and less and, less and now you, know everybody goes home and goes their separate ways as young. People it could be a tech, company it could be a basketball. Team usually don't win in the, playoffs but they have great mstry your chemistry issues Are kobe And shack and their prime are both stars and they have entitlement and. Expectations BUT i do THINK sga is very. UNIQUE i think he is such a likable personality and he is such a collaborative kid THAT i don't see AND i, mean he's already won a scoring, title he's won A CONFERENCE. Mvp if he wins the trophy and they Beat, INDIANA i think are the knicks LIKE i don't, know he doesn't feel like the kind of personality that is he's not Chasing. Lebron he's not Chasing. Michael AND i think a lot of that that pressure On Lebron james the chosen one of The, king he's been. Chasing it feels like he's been chasing the ghost Of Michael jordan forever AND i don't feel. THAT i don't feel that WITH. SGA i think he's really content on being a great. TEAMMATE i, mean, listen The Scoring championship is a real. Thing A conference FINALS mvp is a real. Thing SO i don't see it ending anytime soon for this. Franchise joe klats around the corner Of The.

Interesting so all year, long whenever they would do like a postgame show on their, broadcast they would all join. In it's very, collegiate like very very. Collegiate and it's funny Because i've said this, before you, know to people in my, business is that when we had WHEN i got a job In, VEGAS i had no, money we all went out to drink beers together and pitched it into buy like chicken. Wings and then everybody makes more money IN tv and you hang out less and less and, less and now you, know everybody goes home and goes their separate ways as young. People it could be a tech, company it could be a basketball. Team usually don't win in the, playoffs but they have great mstry your chemistry issues Are kobe And shack and their prime are both stars and they have entitlement and. Expectations BUT i do THINK sga is very. UNIQUE i think he is such a likable personality and he is such a collaborative kid THAT i don't see AND i, mean he's already won a scoring, title he's won A CONFERENCE. Mvp if he wins the trophy and they Beat, INDIANA i think are the knicks LIKE i don't, know he doesn't feel like the kind of personality that is he's not Chasing. Lebron he's not Chasing. Michael AND i think a lot of that that pressure On Lebron james the chosen one of The, king he's been. Chasing it feels like he's been chasing the ghost Of Michael jordan forever AND i don't feel. THAT i don't feel that WITH. SGA i think he's really content on being a great. TEAMMATE i, mean, listen The Scoring championship is a real. Thing A conference FINALS mvp is a real. Thing SO i don't see it ending anytime soon for this. Franchise joe klats around the corner Of The.

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Eastern, Well Joel klatts at The Big Twelve Media, days As fox is now presenting their biggest college football games of the, year And joel clatt is joining. Us loved and love That Texas Ohio state headlines At Ohio State michigan as Well Iowa Iowa. State you, know speaking of rivalry, games And i've said it this, year is that. LISTEN i grew up with The pac twelve AND i loved, it and then it didn't, exist and it didn't take me that long to, Realize, well IF i GET Usc, michigan that's pretty. Cool IF i Get Ohio State. OREGON i watched that game At austin And i'm, like all, Right i'll take. That that beach Cal Arizona Notre DAME usc does feel, Big BUT i can SEE i can See Lincoln riley Going, Okay so the only three teams that came with us or The Big ten Are, Oregon washington and our primary rival into a much better. Conference not to mention the playoff WHERE i could Face george And. BAMA i get them, Saying, okay we'll play, it but it's got to be early and it's every other. Year are you bothered by?

Eastern, Well Joel klatts at The Big Twelve Media, days As fox is now presenting their biggest college football games of the, year And joel clatt is joining. Us loved and love That Texas Ohio state headlines At Ohio State michigan as Well Iowa Iowa. State you, know speaking of rivalry, games And i've said it this, year is that. LISTEN i grew up with The pac twelve AND i loved, it and then it didn't, exist and it didn't take me that long to, Realize, well IF i GET Usc, michigan that's pretty. Cool IF i Get Ohio State. OREGON i watched that game At austin And i'm, like all, Right i'll take. That that beach Cal Arizona Notre DAME usc does feel, Big BUT i can SEE i can See Lincoln riley Going, Okay so the only three teams that came with us or The Big ten Are, Oregon washington and our primary rival into a much better. Conference not to mention the playoff WHERE i could Face george And. BAMA i get them, Saying, okay we'll play, it but it's got to be early and it's every other. Year are you bothered by?

That?

That?

Listen they are doing what everyone does in this, sport which is they make decisions that are in their own self. Interest And i'm not against, that BUT i am saying, that like the model is what's. Broken being in a selection based model for the postseason is going to lead to more of these types of games and rivalries going. Away because what The committee has done during the course of their tenure as an influencing college, football through the fourteen playoff and even now last year in the twelve team Playoff colin is that they have reinforced that it's better to just win than to go play a difficult. Schedule they reinforced that time and time, again year in and year. Out, therefore people are going to behave that. Way so if YOU'RE, usc which has traditionally played one of the more difficult schedules in the. Country in, fact they're one of the few schools that if you look back at all you know the last decade or, so they would average More Powerful power five games than anybody in college. Football they would play eleven in a lot of cases that was far greater than the number Of power Four power five schools that THE sec teams were. Playing and so, like when they make this, DECISION i can't fault them for. IT i don't love, it BUT i can't fault them for. It this is would be my argument would just be we need to go to an access based model for the college football playoffs so that we know the avenues of how we can qualify for the playoff, spots which will lead to these games not being as penal in particular in the in the non conference and we can hopefully see these matchups more.

Listen they are doing what everyone does in this, sport which is they make decisions that are in their own self. Interest And i'm not against, that BUT i am saying, that like the model is what's. Broken being in a selection based model for the postseason is going to lead to more of these types of games and rivalries going. Away because what The committee has done during the course of their tenure as an influencing college, football through the fourteen playoff and even now last year in the twelve team Playoff colin is that they have reinforced that it's better to just win than to go play a difficult. Schedule they reinforced that time and time, again year in and year. Out, therefore people are going to behave that. Way so if YOU'RE, usc which has traditionally played one of the more difficult schedules in the. Country in, fact they're one of the few schools that if you look back at all you know the last decade or, so they would average More Powerful power five games than anybody in college. Football they would play eleven in a lot of cases that was far greater than the number Of power Four power five schools that THE sec teams were. Playing and so, like when they make this, DECISION i can't fault them for. IT i don't love, it BUT i can't fault them for. It this is would be my argument would just be we need to go to an access based model for the college football playoffs so that we know the avenues of how we can qualify for the playoff, spots which will lead to these games not being as penal in particular in the in the non conference and we can hopefully see these matchups more.

Often, listen it's Eon sanders And belichick now are getting attention to schools that don't get it much in. Football belichick Aside Dion sanders now didn't have his son Or Travis hunter going? Forward what are they this? Year what's reasonable to? Expect like it's nice when your son who's AN nfl quarterback comes with. You that's a. Bonus AND i still Think shdor is going to be a STARTING nfl. Quarterback what are they, now.

Often, listen it's Eon sanders And belichick now are getting attention to schools that don't get it much in. Football belichick Aside Dion sanders now didn't have his son Or Travis hunter going? Forward what are they this? Year what's reasonable to? Expect like it's nice when your son who's AN nfl quarterback comes with. You that's a. Bonus AND i still Think shdor is going to be a STARTING nfl. Quarterback what are they, now.

THOUGH.

THOUGH.

I don't see them taking a huge step, back maybe a small. One so two.

I don't see them taking a huge step, back maybe a small. One so two.

Things, one they've recruited at a very high, level and they've brought in a couple of. Quarterbacks Cayden salter a quarterback that transferred in From LIBERTY i believe it. Was and they also Got Julian. Lewis Juju lewis who decommitted FROM.

Things, one they've recruited at a very high, level and they've brought in a couple of. Quarterbacks Cayden salter a quarterback that transferred in From LIBERTY i believe it. Was and they also Got Julian. Lewis Juju lewis who decommitted FROM.

Usc and is now At.

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Colorado Like, dion has done a really great, job whether it's been in the portal or in high school or recruiting to try to. Reload they need to continue to get there at the line of. Scrimmage the more difficult part from, me AND i know this sounds even more so than Replacing shador And, travis is that that, league The Big. Twelve And i'm here at these spring. Meetings if you look at right now What vegas says about the team that they think is the worst team in The Big, twelve the over under is set at five and a. Half if you look at the team that they think is the best team in The Big. Twelve the over under is set at eight and a, half so you've got basically fourteen fifteen sixteen teams within three games of one. Another that's WHAT i think is the most difficult part of The Big twelve and why it's so difficult to.

Colorado Like, dion has done a really great, job whether it's been in the portal or in high school or recruiting to try to. Reload they need to continue to get there at the line of. Scrimmage the more difficult part from, me AND i know this sounds even more so than Replacing shador And, travis is that that, league The Big. Twelve And i'm here at these spring. Meetings if you look at right now What vegas says about the team that they think is the worst team in The Big, twelve the over under is set at five and a. Half if you look at the team that they think is the best team in The Big. Twelve the over under is set at eight and a, half so you've got basically fourteen fifteen sixteen teams within three games of one. Another that's WHAT i think is the most difficult part of The Big twelve and why it's so difficult to.

Predict Could colorado be a four win? Team? Maybe could they be a nine win?

Predict Could colorado be a four win? Team? Maybe could they be a nine win?

Team maybe that this conference is just so deep and bunched together with a lot of quality, programs you, Know.

Team maybe that this conference is just so deep and bunched together with a lot of quality, programs you, Know.

JOEL i think the last couple of, years it's been pretty obvious WHEN i Watch Penn, State, Michigan Ohio, state And, oregon these teams at the top of The Big ten are every bit as good as THE, sec or In michigan And Ohio state's, case noticeably. Better explain why over two years it probably has a connection to THE, nil but it felt like for YEARS sec games look different and it doesn't feel like at the last two. YEARS i. Think my take IS i Think Penn state's going to play for The natty Against texas next. Year that's how GOOD i think they. ARE i think they have a top five to six. QUARTERBACK i Think James franklin's a remarkable, recruiter they got SOME nil. Money what has been this two year? Shift? Why oh. Man there's a lot of layers to this, answer AND i think that you'll love all of. THEM i really, Do.

JOEL i think the last couple of, years it's been pretty obvious WHEN i Watch Penn, State, Michigan Ohio, state And, oregon these teams at the top of The Big ten are every bit as good as THE, sec or In michigan And Ohio state's, case noticeably. Better explain why over two years it probably has a connection to THE, nil but it felt like for YEARS sec games look different and it doesn't feel like at the last two. YEARS i. Think my take IS i Think Penn state's going to play for The natty Against texas next. Year that's how GOOD i think they. ARE i think they have a top five to six. QUARTERBACK i Think James franklin's a remarkable, recruiter they got SOME nil. Money what has been this two year? Shift? Why oh. Man there's a lot of layers to this, answer AND i think that you'll love all of. THEM i really, Do.

Colin the first layers is the layer that no one wants to talk about and no one wants to bring, up which is now everyone is paying, players and so the dispersion of talent is going to be greater because now it's legal IN. Il now take that for what it's. Worth that is a sentiment under in college football that some conferences were more entrenched in that style of behavior prior to when nil became. Legal then you get to some of the other, layers which is transfer portal WITH. Inil what does that do? Well THE, sec and in particular the best programs in THE sec can no longer just stockpile talent and keep them as backups and even third stringers at. Time if you look at the depth of the roster of like the twenty, seventeen eighteen NINETEEN Lsus Bamas georgia's even twenty twenty twenty twenty, one those rosters were insanely talented and. Deep but Now, colin rather than sitting as a backup At. Alabama you can go and be a starter at some other program and make you, know six, Figures and so the talent is not sitting there, There they're going all over the. Country so the depth of talent now is kind of dispersing across the. Country and then what you see is that when that, happened it rewards teams that can play quality football at the linus scrimmage and contain, talent get veteran deepen veteran within their. Organizations and that's What michigan did and that's What Ohio state. Did so in, part it's just kind of the overarching shift of where college football has, gone which is allowed to talent to not get really bogged down in one.

Colin the first layers is the layer that no one wants to talk about and no one wants to bring, up which is now everyone is paying, players and so the dispersion of talent is going to be greater because now it's legal IN. Il now take that for what it's. Worth that is a sentiment under in college football that some conferences were more entrenched in that style of behavior prior to when nil became. Legal then you get to some of the other, layers which is transfer portal WITH. Inil what does that do? Well THE, sec and in particular the best programs in THE sec can no longer just stockpile talent and keep them as backups and even third stringers at. Time if you look at the depth of the roster of like the twenty, seventeen eighteen NINETEEN Lsus Bamas georgia's even twenty twenty twenty twenty, one those rosters were insanely talented and. Deep but Now, colin rather than sitting as a backup At. Alabama you can go and be a starter at some other program and make you, know six, Figures and so the talent is not sitting there, There they're going all over the. Country so the depth of talent now is kind of dispersing across the. Country and then what you see is that when that, happened it rewards teams that can play quality football at the linus scrimmage and contain, talent get veteran deepen veteran within their. Organizations and that's What michigan did and that's What Ohio state. Did so in, part it's just kind of the overarching shift of where college football has, gone which is allowed to talent to not get really bogged down in one.

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Those players are going all over for more, opportunity more starting. Spots you're not going to make money if you don't, start so you can't sit as a. Backup so those rosters got, thin and then the rosters up, NORTH i think got a lot better and you're seeing that late in the.

Those players are going all over for more, opportunity more starting. Spots you're not going to make money if you don't, start so you can't sit as a. Backup so those rosters got, thin and then the rosters up, NORTH i think got a lot better and you're seeing that late in the.

Season think about these games late in the, season AND i think.

Season think about these games late in the, season AND i think.

Five years ago you would have been shocked if you would have seen results Like Notre dame Beating georgia and handling them at the line of scrimmage in a college football playoff. Game Ohio state Running tennessee out of the building not even close in a college football playoff. Game michigan Beating alabama not only in a college football playoff, game the national semi. Final year later in another bowl, game depleted with all of their starters not, playing Beating alabama, Again illinois Beating South, carolina who we all thought was really on a run late last. Year you start looking at this narrative that THE sec has built up over the last few, years and late last year it started to, crumble which is WHY i point to that game that we announced Today Texas Ohio state is a big, game oh for THE, sec because they haven't had a real marquee win, since you, know early last year when who was it Did Georgia georgia early last? Year so all of those THINGS i think are. Fascinating that's a it was a great, question it really, was but lots of layers to that.

Five years ago you would have been shocked if you would have seen results Like Notre dame Beating georgia and handling them at the line of scrimmage in a college football playoff. Game Ohio state Running tennessee out of the building not even close in a college football playoff. Game michigan Beating alabama not only in a college football playoff, game the national semi. Final year later in another bowl, game depleted with all of their starters not, playing Beating alabama, Again illinois Beating South, carolina who we all thought was really on a run late last. Year you start looking at this narrative that THE sec has built up over the last few, years and late last year it started to, crumble which is WHY i point to that game that we announced Today Texas Ohio state is a big, game oh for THE, sec because they haven't had a real marquee win, since you, know early last year when who was it Did Georgia georgia early last? Year so all of those THINGS i think are. Fascinating that's a it was a great, question it really, was but lots of layers to that.

Thing, Listen Ohio. State i'm gonna wait and see what they are at. QUARTERBACK i think they have arguably the two best players In Caleb downs And Jeremiah smith are unbelievable. Players if they played, quarterback they'd be one and two next year if they were. Available smith still has a couple of, years SO i don't know enough About Ohio. STATE i just have to watch. Them when you lose a, QUARTERBACK i, mean they'll be. GOOD i know that they'll be. Explosive, texas, though is. Interesting the downside To arch manning is that it puts enormous pressure On Steve. Sarkesian let's talk a little bit about. That What i've seen From ARCH i, like BUT i haven't seen a. LOT i Think Drew aller got so much better At Penn state last year from the previous. Year LIKE i can see the, trajectory, like if he gets, Better, okay that's AN nfl. Quarterback what Is arch at this?

Thing, Listen Ohio. State i'm gonna wait and see what they are at. QUARTERBACK i think they have arguably the two best players In Caleb downs And Jeremiah smith are unbelievable. Players if they played, quarterback they'd be one and two next year if they were. Available smith still has a couple of, years SO i don't know enough About Ohio. STATE i just have to watch. Them when you lose a, QUARTERBACK i, mean they'll be. GOOD i know that they'll be. Explosive, texas, though is. Interesting the downside To arch manning is that it puts enormous pressure On Steve. Sarkesian let's talk a little bit about. That What i've seen From ARCH i, like BUT i haven't seen a. LOT i Think Drew aller got so much better At Penn state last year from the previous. Year LIKE i can see the, trajectory, like if he gets, Better, okay that's AN nfl. Quarterback what Is arch at this?

POINT i Believe arch is one of THE i rated him on my Show colin as the second best quarterback in college football going into next.

POINT i Believe arch is one of THE i rated him on my Show colin as the second best quarterback in college football going into next.

Year i'm a big. Believer maybe that's kool aid.

Year i'm a big. Believer maybe that's kool aid.

Drinking i'm not, sure but WHEN i watch him, play he threatens every blade of grass on the field with a really strong, arm and he's accurate and smart with, it and he's better throwing the ball down the field than Even Quinn yours. Was and then all of a, sudden in those couple of starts that he, got he flashed this ability to run THAT i was, LIKE, whoa that looks Like Trevor. Lawrence so that's my comp To. ARCH i Think arch is a lot of what we Saw Trevor lawrence become At. Clemson lawrence had a lot of success. Early remember his true freshman. Year they led him to a national, championship AND i Think. Arch the biggest QUESTION i have For arch is not. Him, actually it's more about rebuilding that offensive.

Drinking i'm not, sure but WHEN i watch him, play he threatens every blade of grass on the field with a really strong, arm and he's accurate and smart with, it and he's better throwing the ball down the field than Even Quinn yours. Was and then all of a, sudden in those couple of starts that he, got he flashed this ability to run THAT i was, LIKE, whoa that looks Like Trevor. Lawrence so that's my comp To. ARCH i Think arch is a lot of what we Saw Trevor lawrence become At. Clemson lawrence had a lot of success. Early remember his true freshman. Year they led him to a national, championship AND i Think. Arch the biggest QUESTION i have For arch is not. Him, actually it's more about rebuilding that offensive.

Line they GET. Cj baxter back and.

Line they GET. Cj baxter back and.

Healthy they've recruited and hit the portal incredibly well all over their. Roster that is a bona fide top end team in college. Football they should start at number one or number two in the. Country and the question becomes, like what are they going to be on the offensive? Line and if that unit plays, WELL i Think arch will be In New. YORK i think that he'll have a huge decision to make whether he wants to come out and be a top three pick in THE nfl draft or if he wants to stay At texas one more year and continue to develop So i'm pretty high On arch And i'm pretty high On.

Healthy they've recruited and hit the portal incredibly well all over their. Roster that is a bona fide top end team in college. Football they should start at number one or number two in the. Country and the question becomes, like what are they going to be on the offensive? Line and if that unit plays, WELL i Think arch will be In New. YORK i think that he'll have a huge decision to make whether he wants to come out and be a top three pick in THE nfl draft or if he wants to stay At texas one more year and continue to develop So i'm pretty high On arch And i'm pretty high On.

Texas, okay this is only one minute. Left Lincoln riley had a transfer thing and it didn't work because the chemistry And Brian kelly AT lsu had a lot of transfers and it didn't. Work And dion did a lot of. Transfers fella chick goes To. Carolina it's a lot of transfers in one. MINUTE i don't know if the chemistry you can do that in the college, campus what are they going to look? LIKE i have no.

Texas, okay this is only one minute. Left Lincoln riley had a transfer thing and it didn't work because the chemistry And Brian kelly AT lsu had a lot of transfers and it didn't. Work And dion did a lot of. Transfers fella chick goes To. Carolina it's a lot of transfers in one. MINUTE i don't know if the chemistry you can do that in the college, campus what are they going to look? LIKE i have no.

IDEA i think it's a huge question and it's boom er busts when you go in the transfer portal that. Heavy we've seen seen teams succeed Like, indiana and we've seen teams fail Like Florida.

IDEA i think it's a huge question and it's boom er busts when you go in the transfer portal that. Heavy we've seen seen teams succeed Like, indiana and we've seen teams fail Like Florida.

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