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In a town Hollywood that nobody's relatable, Miles Teller maybe the most relatable guy in Hollywood. I like his work. He's a normal guy. He likes sports, he likes you know, he's like an He's like a normal Hollywood guy. And there's like four of them in the world. Wow, I didn't know you were such a Miles Teller just top gun. He's amazing. Then the making of The Godfather? Have you seen that one? I have not seen Colby offer. Oh, he's sensational. There was the one movie where he was playing an instrument and yeah, yeah, that's Whip Last. Whip Last. That's one of the greatest utmost underrated movies in the last fifty years. So Miles Teller is my new guy in Hollywood. I've always liked Michael Keaton, always like Ed Norton, Don Cheatle, Matt Damon, wife loves Matt Damon, and now it's Miles Teller. I'm a Jerry O'Connell guy myself. I kind of know him a little bit and he's a Jets fan. So yeah, that's sad here all right, Here we go, Colin right, Colin wrong in a Monday, Here we go where Colin was right. Another winning week, Blazing five, three and two. We took the Seahawks to upset the Chargers. We took the Jets to beat Denver h and we took the points with a commander, So we want the Ravens. I'm done betting the Ravens. They become my Falcons. They just keep burning me week after a week, and I like them, but I'm over it. I'm done. I was on the wrong side of the Chiefs game. I'm sorry for that. So three and two were eighteen and twelve on the year where Colin was raw. I had Brady in the Bucks as a Super Bowl bubble team. They're a mess. Todd Bowl said this weekend, they're in a dark place. I think Brady's personal issues are affecting his play. He's got more power. He wanted Bruce Arians out. Well, guess what Bruce Arians and Tom Brady were magic he and Todd Bowles. He's got too much power. It's not working completely wrong. When a coach admits we're in a dark place, well, it's week seven. You got to get to the right place here within the next couple of weeks. Where Colin was right, the rest of you were selling your Bengal stock, and I said, all buy all of it. Slow down, Joe Burrow had major surgery. They took his appendix out. He didn't practice, he didn't play. By the second half of the Cowboys game, I said, I see a really good team developing. Well, I think they're the third or fourth best team in the league. They have not allowed a touchdown. This is remarkable in the second half all year. That is an unbelievable number. I think that hasn't happens. It's like the seventies. The Bengals are legit. I never sold my stock, and here we are where Colin was wrong. Well, it's not about the individual game. The Niners were terrible, but I did think it was the ugliest performance I have seen in some time. Now. They got the Rams, the Chargers in Arizona coming up, and I think they're gonna go three and ozero or at least two and one. But I did not expect this performance. It was, you know, chalk it up to Mahomes. Is amazing. By the way, if you notice how the Chiefs are using Juju Smith Schuster, you guys all sold your stock. I sold mine. It's amazing. You put him with a coach, you put him with Mahomes. But that you know, I'm a Niner guy, and that was a mess. That was a mass at home where Colin was right. Listen, Dan Campbell's a really nice guy. He's earnest, he's genuine, but raw ros got a ceiling. You know, I've said before he's a nice man, but he's got sort of a former player meet head quality. I'm not into one and five this year, three thirteen and one last year. I know everybody loves him, but bad at the podium didn't help. I think he's a nice guy, and I think he's genuine and earnest, and I think he should be a football coach. But being a head coach, some guys are vice presidents, some guys are presidents. Some people are coordinators, some people are head coaches. It's a lot of raw, raw, nineteen seventies, eighties football stuff in the game. I just don't think Dan Campbell's the guy where Colin was really wrong, not only on the Seahawks, but Geno Smith. This is the wrongest I have been in a long time. Five of their draft picks have become starters. Gino Smith is not only the comeback Player of the Year, they should name the award after him. He's the comeback player of the decade. He goes from a bust to a backup to a star. He's big, good arm, and they're coaching the heck out of him. They lead the NFC West. I'm from Seattle and I've ripped this organization for five years in a row. They're playing great. They're fast, they play with energy, they play with a purpose, and the genos Smith's story is like nothing I have ever seen in my life. Where Colin was right. I said, I do not think Russell Wilson and Jerry Juny click. My sources tell me he's fast but immature, and Russell's not into him. The story this weekend, He's on the trade block, and so is kJ Hamler. This is what I've been told about this organization is that they're fast and they're talented, but there are concerns into the organization. Russell's just not going to connect with these guys. You know, he's Russell's like thirty three going on forty three, and these guys are kids. But he is now on the trade block. I'm not saying he's the fault or the problem for their issues, but we told you this wasn't gonna work and wasn't working and they're ago where Colin was wrong. I love Sark, but he's ten and tenant Texas. Wherever he goes, the defense flails, and he simply loses too many of these shootout games. Here's another one, Oklahoma Straight State trailed by ten and the third quarter and all of a sudden you look up and Oklahoma stake has succeeds sees total control in the football game. Sark is a great recruiter and a very very clever play designer, but wherever he goes, the defense is man overboard, and he loses too many of these wild games, and he loses control of his team late in these games ten and ten at Texas, I'm wrong where Colin was right. Well, the Lakers, as we predicted, are a mess. They're forty four over under win total. Best bet of the year bet the under. It's the worst shooting team in the NBA. They're seventh and three attempts dead last in making them. Darvin Ham's a rookie coach. They have no bench, they have no shooters. They're not built for Lebron. Lebron's a driver and a disher. They got no shooters. The Westbrook thing. Now, stop being stubborn. Nobody in LA cares about draft picks four years from now. Go get players, Go get shooters. Lebron's in year twenty. You owe him that. Here's Lebron after the game about Westbrook. I don't know. I feel like this is an interview of trying to set me up to say something. I can tell you that you guys are in the whole Russell Westbrook category right now. You guys can write a ball Russ and all the things you guys want to try to talk about Rustban. I'm not apparent to do that. I won't do it. I've said it over and over. That is not my That's not who I am. So, by the way, Russ's Westbrook is not the Lakers problem. He's a symptom of their problems for eight years. They've been bought him ten and three point shooting. That said, he's shooting eight percent on three pointers. That's what it says in front of me. Where Colin was right. I think at this point I can shoot eight percent on three pointers. Brian Kelly, I know he's not cool. The internet savers that I know he can be cringe e. Yeah, he's five and two, crushed Old Miss that was unbeaten, tied with BAM in the SEC West, and he's made that quarterback Jaden Daniels looked like potentially an NFL quarterback. Sorry, he's not cool. This guy wins everywhere he goes, and he wins quickly everywhere he goes. I look at LSU and they are Remember they were six and seven last year and now they're tied with Alabama. Oh, by the way, Notre Dame stinks. I know you only like cool coaches. I think this guy's top three or four in the country has been for years. Everywhere Brian Kelly goes, they win. He knows offense. Listen, sometimes he's a little loud, but he went to LSU for a reason because they that is a NFL machine, and he wanted to be able to say, okay, I've got his players, as Nick Saban does. Now, we got a fair fight, and he's probably a year or two a recruiting class away from having just that. Colin right, Colin wrong on a Monday, all right, three years with the Jets, coach of the Browns as well. Fox Sports Eric man Genie on a Monday, joining us. You know, I said this to Trent Delfer, coach, I said, when Tom was in New England, it was a do your job. You don't have power, we're gonna bark at you. Sacrifice For the team had a lot of success, structure, structure, structure, He goes to Tampa, gets all the power. The longer he's in Tampa, the uglier it gets. Now it's a coaching issue, a personal life issue. The team's a mess. And I feel like saying, sometimes all of us, all of us in life, want power and we want to do it our way. Structure and sacrifice is hard. And I'm watching this thing in Tampa, Eric and the more leverage in power and say Tom has the Uglierard gets every week. That's what I see it. They're just unraveling. What do you make of it? Yeah, I don't see this as a Tom Brady power issue at all. Look, the guy's forty five years old. He's going through things in his personal life that he hasn't gone before through before, and it's obviously very difficult and he's navigating through that. So maybe he can't be as all in as he typically has been. But that you would expect that to me, that there's bigger issues here. He has nothing to do with the defense, and the defense isn't playing very well. When you give up one hundred and twenty six quarterback rating to p J. Walker, When you give up a six point four yard average that the Carolina's running in after they trade away that their best running back, that's a defensive issue. Your best player drops a touchdown pass. There's other things there that aren't related to Tom Brady and the power struggle, And when you look at it from a coaching perspective, I think one of the most interesting things there is Todd Bowles goes from just a defensive coordinator to the head coach and the defense isn't playing as well. And now you've got Bruce Arians who's still in the building. Yeah, and I know they're not talking about coaching changes, but that's a very easy, easy transition to make. Maybe it's not he goes back to being the head coach, but he could easily become way more involved very quickly. All Right, Bruce Arians in the building. Good point. So um I said before the season. People are what they are. Your game is your game. Aaron is not a patient mentoring. Put my arms around these kids, guy. It's not as it's not who he is. He's young, he's thirty eight single, not like he didn't walk the dog in the morning, he doesn't bring the wife coffee. Aaron's gonna do what Aaron's gonna do. He's not perfectly built for a young receiving core to be patient. It's I roll City. I don't think you can solve this unless you go get him a veteran receiver. I what do they do well? I mean, you tell me what they do well. Well, here's what I'm encouraged by in this situation. So Aaron Rodgers when they draft Jordan Love, he's pissed off when he doesn't have a new contract. He's pissed off. When he's pissed off he's MVP, and then he comes this year. He gets it. He gets all the money, he gets all the power, he gets everything he wants. He goes on the Zen trip in the summertime, and he's very content. And when he's content, he's not very good. And sometimes great players need to play angry. They need to find some way to continue to motivate him. When it's not the money, it's not the fame, it's not the success. And now he's back to being pissed off, and that's good. And look in twenty sixteen, there were four and six, right, and then they go on an eight game winning street, they almost run the table. They lose to the Falcons the NFC Championship game. The thing that I like the best about this situation is it looks like Aaron Rodgers is back to being pissed off, and so maybe he's not going to nurture the young guys, but maybe he's going to demand that they perform warm at the level they're supposed to as as professional football players. No, that's a different take. Um, there are things in life that don't have a precedent, and so I don't know how to explain him. A quarterback is a bust a backup and becomes a star. I don't even know what to make a Geno Smith. I don't I've never seen this before. He was basically borderline out of the league. He was a backup, and he looks fantastic. I mean, what do you explain it to me? Colin? I feel like I woke up this morning in some sort of NFL alternate university. Tom Brady's Tom Brady's on a team that's losing, Aaron Rodgers on a team that's losing, Russell Wilson's on a team that's losing, and Gino Smith is playing incredibly. If you had if you had told me before the season so that this was going to happen, and it's a guarantee, and you could bet your life savings, there's no way I would have done it. There's no and it's it's incredible one hundred and seven quarterback rating running the ball as well as Seattle's run the ball with two rookie tackles. So the names you gotta know are Sane Waldron and Andy Dickerson. Stand Waltern's the offensive coordinator. Andy Dickerson is the run game coordinator and O line coach. And they are both young and smart, and look, you have to give them a ton of credit because Seattle's not winning with defense. Seattle's winning in an unbelievable fashion, more unbelievable than the Giants to me, right point, Yeah, no, it's crazy. So um, listen, Mike McDaniel's getting heat for the kickfield goal stuff. But there is a stat you you've told me this before. If you score first in the NFL, you win seventy percent of the time. If you score first at home, you went about seventy five percent of the time. I don't know what the number is scoring first at home against the rookie quarterback, but it's probably ninety percent of the time. And I watched those first three series and that was schemed, practice, scripted, and I was like, wow, that is coaching. And then two off the script doesn't do anything, and so everybody's beaten up on him on the two points start, you know, or going for going forward instead of the field goals. I don't love it either, but man, that first quarter looked like unbelievable offensive coaching. To me. My interpretation is he's doing a great job with what two is able to do. There's things he doesn't talk. I mean, what do you make him? McDaniels, Yeah, I like him. I like his demeanor. It's it's it's obviously very different than than my demeanor and the coaches that have been around demeanor. But I think I think it works and and there has been creativity in that offense, and two has looked like a like a real guy, and and he's and he's been criticized since he's got in. He's he's underachieved in a lot of ways. Since he's got in and McDaniels has a relationship with him, he's done creative things with him. He's got him to play well and if he hadn't had the concussions and the setbacks that he has, Miami at you know, three games ago was the hottest team in the NFL and an explosive and I don't see why they can't get back to that. And he's going to get better as a head coach as it moves on. There's a lot of learning curve that goes into especially early in the season. Yeah, hey, I gotta talk about the Jets. By the way, I've got an hour and a half on this show and haven't talked to Dallas Cowboys, so everybody says all you do is talk. No, I'm going to talk about him in a second. For about four minutes, I thought their game was totally boring. But I will say this, I had my doubts on Zach Wilson and Sala. Sala's had a great year. Zach Wilson I'm still out on. It's almost as if they're coaching to just not let him lose the game. By the way they see practice. I don't they're taking the ball out of his hands totally. But I will say this, when I watched that defense and that energy, that's a lot of sala. I mean, it looks like he is that culture, that team loves him and buys into him. That's what I see. What do you see? Yeah, you feel that, And to me, it is it is managing Zach Wilson. They're trying to not have him lose the game at this point, and and we haven't seen any games where you look at and says, Okay, he went and won this game for us. It's definitely managing that process. And that's really hard from from a planning standpoint. But the rest of the group, you've seen tremendous progress defensive leave, you've seen progress on special teams. And when he stood up in the podium and everybody was down on him and down on the team and he said, look, you're wrong and I'm going to take receipts, we all took a step back and said, he probably don't want to do that, but I'm sure in the locker room those guys appreciated the fact that he had such a conviction as to where they were and where they were going, and it wasn't it wasn't for show, it wasn't for the meat. It was something that he sincerely felt. And the players I imagined rally behind that. Yeah, Hey, finally tonight, Patriots and the Bears. I like New England a lot tonight. This is what Bill does. You're a young quarterback. You but in the rooms, Justin Fields, I'm gonna make a prediction is gonna struggle with his defense. So what is Bill? I mean, folks, I've seen it a thousand times that I've seen it twice. So what will Bill do tonight? With young Justin Fields? What do you expect to see? Look, Unfortunately, Justin Fields has struggled with most defenses as he's gone through the early part of his career. But with Bill, I'm sure it's an emphasis over and over again of we have got to keep this guy in the pocket. We cannot let broken plays become big plays. He has got to beat us as a conventional quarterback in the pocket. And that's gonna I would imagine. It's all gonna be the best run stoppers, their biggest players, they're most athletic edge setters, to keep them in the pocket and see whether or not the Bears can beat him throwing the ball. And if they do, they do. But you can't come out of that game where they beat you running the ball, and they beat you because he's got a bunch of broken plays that suddenly translate into twenty one point. Yeah, all right, Eric Manginie, New York. The Giants and the Jets forget their baseball teams. They're done October. The Giants and the Jets are a real story. The Yankees and the Mets out. What a strange October it is in the in the Apple, great scene, you coach, good scene, you to go. I mean, isn't that crazy? If I had told you in August? Yankees will get swept, the Mets can't get out of early rounds, and the Jets and the Giants will be the shock of the league. And there you go. I mean, it's fun. You know, everybody complains like the second half. I thought the Miami Pittsburgh game was wildly entertaining. Now, the first half was way more big plays. But I watched the Jets and the Broncos, and I gotta be honest with you. I know everybody loves offense, but watching the Jets sort of, how do we hold onto this, how do we just without giving our quarterback situations to make mistakes? It was real chess. It was like Sala's like played the field position game, field position game. Just make Denver drive the field and score. They're not going to and uh, I don't know. Ugly football can be fun too. You also love to talk about quarterbacks. Culin if you were to look around the league, thirty two teams, just guessing right now, how many teams do you think need a new quarterback? Like the Jets. We agree, Zach Wilson, Well, I don't think they need one yet. You gotta get I mean again, they're winning and that is something we're looking it. At least ten teams that need quarter Ask yourself this, so Seattle to see have two first, two seconds, a third, two fourths. They're stacked, and they have five kids they drafted last year that are starting and really good. Seattle nails us next draft. I mean, they'll take a quarterback, but you can argue now with the talent they could bring it. And remember, Seattle's got a ton of cap space, so they can go buy some deficiencies. They got their tackles they're running back their hedge rushers. You could, you could. If you're Seattle. You look around and you're like, do we have to take a quarterback with a first pick? Well, they have Denver's pick as well, right, no, two seconds, So it's Seattle's in an interesting situation. Geno looks like not only a starter, but win a bunch of games starter. It's as Eric Mangini said, if you'd have told me this in August, I'd say you're out of your mind. But the NFL does this to us every year. Half the teams that make the playoffs dope the following year, and a team doubles their win total. And I think we could probably agree the Tampa Bay Buccaneers with Tom Brady at it's rate, why would Brady come back? Right, He's got to retire after the season. So now you add Tampa to the mix and needing a quarterback, and you know, Jimmy Garoppolo baby becomes attractive. Daniel Jones could surface elsewhere or do the Giants keep him? Like there's so many goods, Daniel Jones is going to be really interesting because they've been bad for a long time. So the question is, even if inside the room. You've convinced yourself we're not beating mahomes Alan with this it you can convince yourself we can win the division with this. So it'll be interesting to walk. I want to see Daniel Jones against the Eagles. Do you know how close the Giants are to being like three and four or two and five? I mean again again, I know the record says it's the NFL. The margins are tiny. The Daniel Jones story is. I mean, the Jets are telling you we don't really trust this kid. Yet the Giants are like, no, We're asking them to make big throws in territory that's dangers to no receivers. They have no receivers. Daniel Jones is becoming a not geno smith. Shocking, but this turnarounds pretty impressive. One more Herd. The Herd streams twenty four hours a day, seven days a week within the iHeartRadio app. Search Herd to listen live or on demand whenever you like. The two twenty two World Series begins Friday, as Bryce Harper and the Phillies look to continue their storybook postseason run against an Astro's team, making their fourth trip to the Fall Classic in the last six seasons. Coverage begins Friday at seventies turn fourth Pacific only on Fox and Fox Sports at hour and a half. Didn't talk to Cowboys job, don't need to, but I will say this, My interpretation of that looked like every single Cowboy game I've seen this year. With Dak Or Cooper rush ten to six, Dallas led with two forty five and the fourth quarter, that's what the game was. They stay in the NFL, I don't they do? Jimmy Johnson does Sean Payton? Does you lose more games in the NFL than you win? Here's the Lions who let it half six three. Here's their second half possessions, interception, punt, fumble, interception, fumble, fumble. The Lions lost this game. The Cowboys didn't win it. Detroit lost this game. Doesn't mean they're better, but Dallas was lousy on third down. They averaged five and a half a play. They're no better than Detroit. They probably got a better coach and they've got a much better defense. But if you're pretending this was Dak led, you're nothing more than a fanboy. This The story of the Dallas Cowboys this year is defense, defense, defense. That is exactly what it is. Is Dak better than Cooper Rush? Yeah? And who cares? He should be? He makes forty million a year. This team is five and zero when the defense holds an opponent to seventeen or less. The two times their defense isn't amazing. The Cowboys are owing two one with Cooper, one with Dak. I think, I mean that's what they are. Any claim Dallas isn't about defense is you're just a fan, And that's okay. You should be a fan fan. That's watch the Phillies, you know, watch the Astros. Fans make sports, right, There's the athletes, then then there's the fans and it creates this amazing chemistry. But this is all about defense. This this this offense is limited with weapons limited at quarterback. Okay, on the offensive line, I mean what what? I don't even what is Zeke average a game? Now? Sixty yards a game? I think Ceedee Lambs is really talented, but he's not a dominant number one. This is a defensive story. And I think if it was twelve years ago, this team would be capable of winning multiple playoff games. And they are very lucky they are in the NFC and maybe even luckier than they're in the NFC East. But that game looked exactly like every Cowboy game this year with Cooper Dak. It sounds like you just called them a rich Man's New York Jets, right win with defense? Is Dak is better than Zack Wilson, Yes, yeah, yeah, but I'm saying, um, I mean, Dak's better than Cooper Rush, I would hope. So you're paying forty million dollars. That's like saying Colin loves his kids. It helps on their dad. I mean, it's like there's certain things that have to be true. By the way, Jared Goff won that game for Dallas, he was abysmal. I mean, two brutal interceptions that you showed every coach we've ever brought on the show, you'll lose more games than you'll win. Detroit lost that game. That thing was six three at half Detroit, it was ten six, ten six. With two forty five left in the fourth quarter, Detroit fumbled on the one yard line. I think at the kids. Paul Williams, he had never fumbled in his career six years in the league, first fumble ever at the goal line. Of course, I was on the Lions by one loss of the weekend. Not happy. Well, I don't think Dallas won. I think Detroit lost. I would agree one hundred percent with that, and then they are in the market for a quarterback. But if you're Detroit, do you go? Cej Stroud at the top. State quarterbacks have not had a lot of success in the none. There's never been a great Ohio state quarterback in the NFL. Not one ever. The very interesting top of the draft. It's gonna be Lions, Texans, maybe Seattle with Denvers No no, no, no Seatle's gonna win getting nu Us no Seattle with Denver's pick. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, good point. Here's dak On returning to the lineup after watching Cooper rush. This time that I had off, I was a blessing. Coop did an amazing job obviously of keeping us in this position, and once again just the defense and the team just playing complimenting football. And so it's important for me to see that and to recognize that no coming back. Don't try to do too much. It's great just to be a part of it. As I said, I'm just trying to play my role to make sure that I put this team in the best chance to win each and every game. If if you look at this, if you look at the pass rating one thirteen, you're like, whoa, It's like Detroit was Detroit in the second half, had multiple opportunities, fumbles, picks, awful coaching, bad by again, Well, Dak, Dak's better than Cooper Rush, but he's got to be better than him. You're paying forty million dollars a year. You've got to be better than them. Jay Mack with the News. No, no, turn on the news. This is the herd Line News. Start with a quarterback that we both like but has not played well in recent weeks. Lamar Jackson did absolutely nothing one hundred twenty passing yards. Ravens, who had blown double digit second half lets in all three of their losses, blew another one on Sunday, but they survived another Cave York missfield goal by the Browns, and Baltimore prevails twenty three twenty. I still like Baltimore so much. I do off though, doesn't it They're They're an exhausting team to love because you watch these games. You watch the Giants game ninety percent of it. I thought Baltimore was better. They lost. I watched this game ninety percent of it, outside of maybe an early drive. I thought Baltimore's way better, and they're either losing or clean on for dear life. I there's so much about Baltimore and the infrastructure I love. I still I like Lubart Jackson a lot, but they are exhausting. They lead points on the boy. You always feel like with Baltimore, they just left like ten points in the locker room. And I'm not blaming anybody. Just feels like that to me. There's too much about this organization, owner, GM, coach, quarterback, There's too much I like about them to ever bail on them. They're gonna end up winning the division or getting into the playoffs, but they are exhausting. I am glad I'm not a Ravens fan. They're an exhausting team to pull for. So if you watch that game closely, Colin Lamar Jackson not throwing at all. They ran the ball forty four times, taking the ball out of Lamar's hands. Yeah, and none of the carries were over twelve yards, So it's all like three yards in a cloud of dust with gust the bus and a little Kenyan Drake and Something seems off with the Ravens right now. I'm I can't put my finger on it, but they're not the Baltimore Ravens that we expected them to be. They should have never been a dog fight at all. Right, they can't happen now, let's be fair. Though it is a division game. It is a division game, and Cleveland's got six or seven great player Cleveland has the best guards in the league. They have Miles Garrett. They I mean, Cleveland's got players. They have a couple. I really actually like Cleveland corners a lot Newsom awards. Cleveland's got players, don't This is not a Cleveland I don't think this year. But if Deshaun Watson is ninety percent of what he was, they've got really good talent. Cleveland is not without talent. That is not the issue. Price to see Jacoby Brissette go up and down the field. They lost in Joku Amari Cooper's roasting Baltimore defensive backs. Something's off with the Ravens. I don't know. Um. Next up, Taylor Heineke. We had a good headline for him on Friday. He got his first start of the season for the Commander. Listen it didn't start well. He threw a pick six and then had a fumble for touchdown that was called off due to a penalty. He did finish with two hundred one yards, two touchdowns and got the dub twenty three twenty one over the Packers. After the game, he said he didn't pay any attention to anyone who doubted that he could help his team be success. I don't care about the doubters. I don't care what they have to say. I care about the people who believe in me, and I want to prove them right. That means more to me than anyone else has something negative to say. I want to prove the people that believe in me right more than the doubters. Row I could care less about those people. He's got a little Bailey's appy. You watch him, you can say what you want, a little undersized, get rid of it, a little bit of a gamer. Bailey's appy got bench tonight not happy. But we both like the commanders? Did we not at the commanders. It's interesting if you listen closer to what he just said, it's like the antithesis of Baker Mayfield. Baker Mayfield only cares what the doubters say he likes tweets that are negative. Taylor Heineke is like, mister positive, mister sunshine, I kind of did this this. Oh listen, they've won two in a row. Again. It's the Bears and the Packers. But they're gonna get Chase Young back here in short order. Terry McLaurin looked incredible yesterday. Beaten up on JayR Alexander a little bit. Keep an eye on Washington, NFC beast they're calling it now, not the NFC least Washington coming out of the cellar. I don't know if they fight for a wild card, but I like, honey, well, their divisions better than everybody thought, including well certainly better than I thought. Yeah, absolutely, yeah, all right, final story, Colin, This one is a little bit crazy. So if you look at the video here after the Bucks lost to the Panthers, a referee appears to be asking Mike Evans for an autograph. According to Tom Pellasaro of the NFL Network, the league is reviewing the incident because the CBA between the league and the referees states that no official can ask players, coaches, or team personnel for autographs or memorabilia. Ask yourself this how bad does your judgment have to be as an official to think this is appropriate? You have literally no. I mean again, it's we all make mistakes in life, but you had a lot of time there to go. God, this is a really bad decision. I remember talking about this years ago when I was on the air. I don't know if it's ESPN at the place before. I knew a major to gumpire that asked for like six autograph baseballs from Barry Bonds and it's like, I could name the umpire's name, and I'm like, I told him, I'm like, that's completely inappropriate. The look of impropriety is brutal. No, I mean, it's for my nephew, doesn't matter who it's for. Like, be smarter than that. I remember the league is embracing gambling now, even though it didn't factor in here or at all to the spread. This is one of those things that the league's gonna be like, I guarantee he's like, well, it's from my nephew. No, nobody. I would never let that guy work in the league again. Well, there's speculation online that this is his last year. He's on a retirement tour. I don't care. I agree. I agree with you on this, but uh, he's just not a good look at all. God, folks, that's not even a hard one to figure out. And if it was Mike Evans, what do you do for Tom Brady? You know, maybe you got P J. Walker's autograph. I don't know. He beat Brady J. Mack with the news. Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the Herd line. So much stuff here to talk about we haven't gotten to. Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays and noon Easter not a Empacific on Fox Sports Radio FS one and the iHeart Radio app. Hey, this is Jason McIntyre. 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We know what turbisky is. You don't know what Kenny pick It is. He's a first round pick. See if he can play. Secondly, he's not great yet. He had a couple three picks last night. He could have had five, and you're gonna lose a bunch of games. And that's actually the right plan. This is exactly what the process looks like. Peyton Manning year one, a lot of picks, a lot of losses. Joe Burrow year one, a lot of losses. Not necessarily picks, but a lot of losses. Josh Allen year one had more picks than touchdown passes. But those organizations don't have the Pittsburgh Steelers history, and so this is uncharted territory. This is a year of discovery. That's the term this year for Pittsburgh, the year of discovery. What do we got here? What do we not have here? Receivers are great, you got you got a running back, a tight end. I like defense, there's a lot you know you have. But in this league twenty twenty two, can a quarterback play? This is the process going on the road, asking him to make a bunch of rows, trailing seeing if he's got the it. I don't see a lot of special I told you I liked him in college. Then I talked to a lot of people who I trust, like scouts and executives and a couple GMS that I really trust, said, you know, he's a late second early third round pick. He's not a first round pick. And there isn't a lot of like wow and sizzle to his game. But this is what it looks like and you got to figure it out. And there's no reason to play a tribisky. If you'll lose the next eight games, you'll know what you have because they've got weapons. You can't tell me they don't have weapons, Claypool Johnson, George Pickens. Those are great weapons, very good young tight end nights, running back. So it's the year of discovery and it's bumpy and and you should lose, you'd rather win the Peyton Manning, Joe Burrow, Josh Allen, that's what it looks like, even if they become stars. This is kind of what it looks like. He's got to deal with it for a year. You've been winning for years. You never have a losing year. You gotta get over that. This could be the ugly year with four wins. But at the end of it, you're like, you know what, Kenny Pickett made a lot of mistakes. He won't make him. He won't make him in year two. Peyton Manning didn't make him as often. Year two, Josh Allen didn't make him as much. In year two, Joe Burrow didn't make him as often. A year two, year one is ugly. For the stars that can be unbelievably ugly. Mahomes in Kansas City, they sat him down. Watch Alex Smith, that's ideal. That doesn't happen much. That doesn't happen where you have a giving mentor. And Alex Smith and they get you to a playoff. And that's not the way it works in real life. It's ugly a lot. Pickett is a twenty four years old calling, so he's not like some young pop right out of college. I'm just curious, where are you on Pickett at this stage. I don't see the juice. But he's got three really good receivers. Claypool, Johnson and Pickens are very good. Well, Pickens a star. The other two are good. Pickens is a star, Naja Harris. The big problem is he has no offensive line. I mean, it's just crumbling every every every running first life, and they have no Tomlins got no offensive philosophy, speaking of full of sap. Even the all time greats need structure. Peyton Manning, the Colts had Tony Dungee, Bill Pauli and Ursy Hey. Michael Jordan had two three peats. He battled Jerry Krauss, he battled Ryan'sdorf, the owner, Phil Jackson and him. Phil Jackson asked him to make some sacrifices, but they had two three peats. Brady in New England a lot of sacrifice and a lot of structure. Guys love power. We like fast boats. And fast cars and knockout punches and home run hit it. We like power, and Brady moves to Tampa and he gets all this power. Let's get Bruce arians upstairs. I want Gronk, I want a b But am I the only person. The longer Brady is in Tampa, the weirder, uglier and stranger it gets. Year one was the year of overcoming pandemic practice super Bowl. Year two was the year of a boy. It's indifferent. Then we find out Tom was thinking about retiring, and Tom was thinking about buying the Dolphins a Year two was like indifferent and odd after the season. Year three is a mess. The team's a mess. You know, he's going through a horrible situation in his private life. I think he moved to Tampa and he was, you know, wanted a little more respect and a little more leverage and a little more say and a little more power. And be careful what you wish for, because the New England story for Tom was one of sacrifice, do your job, no days off, total structure, sacrifice, pay and here you have all the power and it is turning into a mess. It's like a little bit like Aaron Rodgers. Tom's numbers look good again, the passer rating. Now the numbers look good. And I'm not blaming Aaron and Tom for all of it, but it's like most people thrive in structure, need to be told. No, myself included. Everybody needs structure, and we're all guys tend to seek power. And the longer Tom's in Tampa, the stranger it gets. Belichick barked at him, Arians barked at him. Josh McDaniels barked at him. Todd Ball's defensive guy, Tom at your offense. This is what it looks like. You know what. This is what it looks like. Bad, not close, ugly, really ugly. Our number three still loaded live at LA. It's the hurt.

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In a town Hollywood that nobody's relatable, Miles Teller maybe the most relatable guy in Hollywood. I like his work. He's a normal guy. He likes sports, he likes you know, he's like an He's like a normal Hollywood guy. And there's like four of them in the world. Wow, I didn't know you were such a Miles Teller just top gun. He's amazing. Then the making of The Godfather? Have you seen that one? I have not seen Colby offer. Oh, he's sensational. There was the one movie where he was playing an instrument and yeah, yeah, that's Whip Last. Whip Last. That's one of the greatest utmost underrated movies in the last fifty years. So Miles Teller is my new guy in Hollywood. I've always liked Michael Keaton, always like Ed Norton, Don Cheatle, Matt Damon, wife loves Matt Damon, and now it's Miles Teller. I'm a Jerry O'Connell guy myself. I kind of know him a little bit and he's a Jets fan. So yeah, that's sad here all right, Here we go, Colin right, Colin wrong in a Monday, Here we go where Colin was right. Another winning week, Blazing five, three and two. We took the Seahawks to upset the Chargers. We took the Jets to beat Denver h and we took the points with a commander, So we want the Ravens. I'm done betting the Ravens. They become my Falcons. They just keep burning me week after a week, and I like them, but I'm over it. I'm done. I was on the wrong side of the Chiefs game. I'm sorry for that. So three and two were eighteen and twelve on the year where Colin was raw. I had Brady in the Bucks as a Super Bowl bubble team. They're a mess. Todd Bowl said this weekend, they're in a dark place. I think Brady's personal issues are affecting his play. He's got more power. He wanted Bruce Arians out. Well, guess what Bruce Arians and Tom Brady were magic he and Todd Bowles. He's got too much power. It's not working completely wrong. When a coach admits we're in a dark place, well, it's week seven. You got to get to the right place here within the next couple of weeks. Where Colin was right, the rest of you were selling your Bengal stock, and I said, all buy all of it. Slow down, Joe Burrow had major surgery. They took his appendix out. He didn't practice, he didn't play. By the second half of the Cowboys game, I said, I see a really good team developing. Well, I think they're the third or fourth best team in the league. They have not allowed a touchdown. This is remarkable in the second half all year. That is an unbelievable number. I think that hasn't happens. It's like the seventies. The Bengals are legit. I never sold my stock, and here we are where Colin was wrong. Well, it's not about the individual game. The Niners were terrible, but I did think it was the ugliest performance I have seen in some time. Now. They got the Rams, the Chargers in Arizona coming up, and I think they're gonna go three and ozero or at least two and one. But I did not expect this performance. It was, you know, chalk it up to Mahomes. Is amazing. By the way, if you notice how the Chiefs are using Juju Smith Schuster, you guys all sold your stock. I sold mine. It's amazing. You put him with a coach, you put him with Mahomes. But that you know, I'm a Niner guy, and that was a mess. That was a mass at home where Colin was right. Listen, Dan Campbell's a really nice guy. He's earnest, he's genuine, but raw ros got a ceiling. You know, I've said before he's a nice man, but he's got sort of a former player meet head quality. I'm not into one and five this year, three thirteen and one last year. I know everybody loves him, but bad at the podium didn't help. I think he's a nice guy, and I think he's genuine and earnest, and I think he should be a football coach. But being a head coach, some guys are vice presidents, some guys are presidents. Some people are coordinators, some people are head coaches. It's a lot of raw, raw, nineteen seventies, eighties football stuff in the game. I just don't think Dan Campbell's the guy where Colin was really wrong, not only on the Seahawks, but Geno Smith. This is the wrongest I have been in a long time. Five of their draft picks have become starters. Gino Smith is not only the comeback Player of the Year, they should name the award after him. He's the comeback player of the decade. He goes from a bust to a backup to a star. He's big, good arm, and they're coaching the heck out of him. They lead the NFC West. I'm from Seattle and I've ripped this organization for five years in a row. They're playing great. They're fast, they play with energy, they play with a purpose, and the genos Smith's story is like nothing I have ever seen in my life. Where Colin was right. I said, I do not think Russell Wilson and Jerry Juny click. My sources tell me he's fast but immature, and Russell's not into him. The story this weekend, He's on the trade block, and so is kJ Hamler. This is what I've been told about this organization is that they're fast and they're talented, but there are concerns into the organization. Russell's just not going to connect with these guys. You know, he's Russell's like thirty three going on forty three, and these guys are kids. But he is now on the trade block. I'm not saying he's the fault or the problem for their issues, but we told you this wasn't gonna work and wasn't working and they're ago where Colin was wrong. I love Sark, but he's ten and tenant Texas. Wherever he goes, the defense flails, and he simply loses too many of these shootout games. Here's another one, Oklahoma Straight State trailed by ten and the third quarter and all of a sudden you look up and Oklahoma stake has succeeds sees total control in the football game. Sark is a great recruiter and a very very clever play designer, but wherever he goes, the defense is man overboard, and he loses too many of these wild games, and he loses control of his team late in these games ten and ten at Texas, I'm wrong where Colin was right. Well, the Lakers, as we predicted, are a mess. They're forty four over under win total. Best bet of the year bet the under. It's the worst shooting team in the NBA. They're seventh and three attempts dead last in making them. Darvin Ham's a rookie coach. They have no bench, they have no shooters. They're not built for Lebron. Lebron's a driver and a disher. They got no shooters. The Westbrook thing. Now, stop being stubborn. Nobody in LA cares about draft picks four years from now. Go get players, Go get shooters. Lebron's in year twenty. You owe him that. Here's Lebron after the game about Westbrook. I don't know. I feel like this is an interview of trying to set me up to say something. I can tell you that you guys are in the whole Russell Westbrook category right now. You guys can write a ball Russ and all the things you guys want to try to talk about Rustban. I'm not apparent to do that. I won't do it. I've said it over and over. That is not my That's not who I am. So, by the way, Russ's Westbrook is not the Lakers problem. He's a symptom of their problems for eight years. They've been bought him ten and three point shooting. That said, he's shooting eight percent on three pointers. That's what it says in front of me. Where Colin was right. I think at this point I can shoot eight percent on three pointers. Brian Kelly, I know he's not cool. The internet savers that I know he can be cringe e. Yeah, he's five and two, crushed Old Miss that was unbeaten, tied with BAM in the SEC West, and he's made that quarterback Jaden Daniels looked like potentially an NFL quarterback. Sorry, he's not cool. This guy wins everywhere he goes, and he wins quickly everywhere he goes. I look at LSU and they are Remember they were six and seven last year and now they're tied with Alabama. Oh, by the way, Notre Dame stinks. I know you only like cool coaches. I think this guy's top three or four in the country has been for years. Everywhere Brian Kelly goes, they win. He knows offense. Listen, sometimes he's a little loud, but he went to LSU for a reason because they that is a NFL machine, and he wanted to be able to say, okay, I've got his players, as Nick Saban does. Now, we got a fair fight, and he's probably a year or two a recruiting class away from having just that. Colin right, Colin wrong on a Monday, all right, three years with the Jets, coach of the Browns as well. Fox Sports Eric man Genie on a Monday, joining us. You know, I said this to Trent Delfer, coach, I said, when Tom was in New England, it was a do your job. You don't have power, we're gonna bark at you. Sacrifice For the team had a lot of success, structure, structure, structure, He goes to Tampa, gets all the power. The longer he's in Tampa, the uglier it gets. Now it's a coaching issue, a personal life issue. The team's a mess. And I feel like saying, sometimes all of us, all of us in life, want power and we want to do it our way. Structure and sacrifice is hard. And I'm watching this thing in Tampa, Eric and the more leverage in power and say Tom has the Uglierard gets every week. That's what I see it. They're just unraveling. What do you make of it? Yeah, I don't see this as a Tom Brady power issue at all. Look, the guy's forty five years old. He's going through things in his personal life that he hasn't gone before through before, and it's obviously very difficult and he's navigating through that. So maybe he can't be as all in as he typically has been. But that you would expect that to me, that there's bigger issues here. He has nothing to do with the defense, and the defense isn't playing very well. When you give up one hundred and twenty six quarterback rating to p J. Walker, When you give up a six point four yard average that the Carolina's running in after they trade away that their best running back, that's a defensive issue. Your best player drops a touchdown pass. There's other things there that aren't related to Tom Brady and the power struggle, And when you look at it from a coaching perspective, I think one of the most interesting things there is Todd Bowles goes from just a defensive coordinator to the head coach and the defense isn't playing as well. And now you've got Bruce Arians who's still in the building. Yeah, and I know they're not talking about coaching changes, but that's a very easy, easy transition to make. Maybe it's not he goes back to being the head coach, but he could easily become way more involved very quickly. All Right, Bruce Arians in the building. Good point. So um I said before the season. People are what they are. Your game is your game. Aaron is not a patient mentoring. Put my arms around these kids, guy. It's not as it's not who he is. He's young, he's thirty eight single, not like he didn't walk the dog in the morning, he doesn't bring the wife coffee. Aaron's gonna do what Aaron's gonna do. He's not perfectly built for a young receiving core to be patient. It's I roll City. I don't think you can solve this unless you go get him a veteran receiver. I what do they do well? I mean, you tell me what they do well. Well, here's what I'm encouraged by in this situation. So Aaron Rodgers when they draft Jordan Love, he's pissed off when he doesn't have a new contract. He's pissed off. When he's pissed off he's MVP, and then he comes this year. He gets it. He gets all the money, he gets all the power, he gets everything he wants. He goes on the Zen trip in the summertime, and he's very content. And when he's content, he's not very good. And sometimes great players need to play angry. They need to find some way to continue to motivate him. When it's not the money, it's not the fame, it's not the success. And now he's back to being pissed off, and that's good. And look in twenty sixteen, there were four and six, right, and then they go on an eight game winning street, they almost run the table. They lose to the Falcons the NFC Championship game. The thing that I like the best about this situation is it looks like Aaron Rodgers is back to being pissed off, and so maybe he's not going to nurture the young guys, but maybe he's going to demand that they perform warm at the level they're supposed to as as professional football players. No, that's a different take. Um, there are things in life that don't have a precedent, and so I don't know how to explain him. A quarterback is a bust a backup and becomes a star. I don't even know what to make a Geno Smith. I don't I've never seen this before. He was basically borderline out of the league. He was a backup, and he looks fantastic. I mean, what do you explain it to me? Colin? I feel like I woke up this morning in some sort of NFL alternate university. Tom Brady's Tom Brady's on a team that's losing, Aaron Rodgers on a team that's losing, Russell Wilson's on a team that's losing, and Gino Smith is playing incredibly. If you had if you had told me before the season so that this was going to happen, and it's a guarantee, and you could bet your life savings, there's no way I would have done it. There's no and it's it's incredible one hundred and seven quarterback rating running the ball as well as Seattle's run the ball with two rookie tackles. So the names you gotta know are Sane Waldron and Andy Dickerson. Stand Waltern's the offensive coordinator. Andy Dickerson is the run game coordinator and O line coach. And they are both young and smart, and look, you have to give them a ton of credit because Seattle's not winning with defense. Seattle's winning in an unbelievable fashion, more unbelievable than the Giants to me, right point, Yeah, no, it's crazy. So um, listen, Mike McDaniel's getting heat for the kickfield goal stuff. But there is a stat you you've told me this before. If you score first in the NFL, you win seventy percent of the time. If you score first at home, you went about seventy five percent of the time. I don't know what the number is scoring first at home against the rookie quarterback, but it's probably ninety percent of the time. And I watched those first three series and that was schemed, practice, scripted, and I was like, wow, that is coaching. And then two off the script doesn't do anything, and so everybody's beaten up on him on the two points start, you know, or going for going forward instead of the field goals. I don't love it either, but man, that first quarter looked like unbelievable offensive coaching. To me. My interpretation is he's doing a great job with what two is able to do. There's things he doesn't talk. I mean, what do you make him? McDaniels, Yeah, I like him. I like his demeanor. It's it's it's obviously very different than than my demeanor and the coaches that have been around demeanor. But I think I think it works and and there has been creativity in that offense, and two has looked like a like a real guy, and and he's and he's been criticized since he's got in. He's he's underachieved in a lot of ways. Since he's got in and McDaniels has a relationship with him, he's done creative things with him. He's got him to play well and if he hadn't had the concussions and the setbacks that he has, Miami at you know, three games ago was the hottest team in the NFL and an explosive and I don't see why they can't get back to that. And he's going to get better as a head coach as it moves on. There's a lot of learning curve that goes into especially early in the season. Yeah, hey, I gotta talk about the Jets. By the way, I've got an hour and a half on this show and haven't talked to Dallas Cowboys, so everybody says all you do is talk. No, I'm going to talk about him in a second. For about four minutes, I thought their game was totally boring. But I will say this, I had my doubts on Zach Wilson and Sala. Sala's had a great year. Zach Wilson I'm still out on. It's almost as if they're coaching to just not let him lose the game. By the way they see practice. I don't they're taking the ball out of his hands totally. But I will say this, when I watched that defense and that energy, that's a lot of sala. I mean, it looks like he is that culture, that team loves him and buys into him. That's what I see. What do you see? Yeah, you feel that, And to me, it is it is managing Zach Wilson. They're trying to not have him lose the game at this point, and and we haven't seen any games where you look at and says, Okay, he went and won this game for us. It's definitely managing that process. And that's really hard from from a planning standpoint. But the rest of the group, you've seen tremendous progress defensive leave, you've seen progress on special teams. And when he stood up in the podium and everybody was down on him and down on the team and he said, look, you're wrong and I'm going to take receipts, we all took a step back and said, he probably don't want to do that, but I'm sure in the locker room those guys appreciated the fact that he had such a conviction as to where they were and where they were going, and it wasn't it wasn't for show, it wasn't for the meat. It was something that he sincerely felt. And the players I imagined rally behind that. Yeah, Hey, finally tonight, Patriots and the Bears. I like New England a lot tonight. This is what Bill does. You're a young quarterback. You but in the rooms, Justin Fields, I'm gonna make a prediction is gonna struggle with his defense. So what is Bill? I mean, folks, I've seen it a thousand times that I've seen it twice. So what will Bill do tonight? With young Justin Fields? What do you expect to see? Look, Unfortunately, Justin Fields has struggled with most defenses as he's gone through the early part of his career. But with Bill, I'm sure it's an emphasis over and over again of we have got to keep this guy in the pocket. We cannot let broken plays become big plays. He has got to beat us as a conventional quarterback in the pocket. And that's gonna I would imagine. It's all gonna be the best run stoppers, their biggest players, they're most athletic edge setters, to keep them in the pocket and see whether or not the Bears can beat him throwing the ball. And if they do, they do. But you can't come out of that game where they beat you running the ball, and they beat you because he's got a bunch of broken plays that suddenly translate into twenty one point. Yeah, all right, Eric Manginie, New York. The Giants and the Jets forget their baseball teams. They're done October. The Giants and the Jets are a real story. The Yankees and the Mets out. What a strange October it is in the in the Apple, great scene, you coach, good scene, you to go. I mean, isn't that crazy? If I had told you in August? Yankees will get swept, the Mets can't get out of early rounds, and the Jets and the Giants will be the shock of the league. And there you go. I mean, it's fun. You know, everybody complains like the second half. I thought the Miami Pittsburgh game was wildly entertaining. Now, the first half was way more big plays. But I watched the Jets and the Broncos, and I gotta be honest with you. I know everybody loves offense, but watching the Jets sort of, how do we hold onto this, how do we just without giving our quarterback situations to make mistakes? It was real chess. It was like Sala's like played the field position game, field position game. Just make Denver drive the field and score. They're not going to and uh, I don't know. Ugly football can be fun too. You also love to talk about quarterbacks. Culin if you were to look around the league, thirty two teams, just guessing right now, how many teams do you think need a new quarterback? Like the Jets. We agree, Zach Wilson, Well, I don't think they need one yet. You gotta get I mean again, they're winning and that is something we're looking it. At least ten teams that need quarter Ask yourself this, so Seattle to see have two first, two seconds, a third, two fourths. They're stacked, and they have five kids they drafted last year that are starting and really good. Seattle nails us next draft. I mean, they'll take a quarterback, but you can argue now with the talent they could bring it. And remember, Seattle's got a ton of cap space, so they can go buy some deficiencies. They got their tackles they're running back their hedge rushers. You could, you could. If you're Seattle. You look around and you're like, do we have to take a quarterback with a first pick? Well, they have Denver's pick as well, right, no, two seconds, So it's Seattle's in an interesting situation. Geno looks like not only a starter, but win a bunch of games starter. It's as Eric Mangini said, if you'd have told me this in August, I'd say you're out of your mind. But the NFL does this to us every year. Half the teams that make the playoffs dope the following year, and a team doubles their win total. And I think we could probably agree the Tampa Bay Buccaneers with Tom Brady at it's rate, why would Brady come back? Right, He's got to retire after the season. So now you add Tampa to the mix and needing a quarterback, and you know, Jimmy Garoppolo baby becomes attractive. Daniel Jones could surface elsewhere or do the Giants keep him? Like there's so many goods, Daniel Jones is going to be really interesting because they've been bad for a long time. So the question is, even if inside the room. You've convinced yourself we're not beating mahomes Alan with this it you can convince yourself we can win the division with this. So it'll be interesting to walk. I want to see Daniel Jones against the Eagles. Do you know how close the Giants are to being like three and four or two and five? I mean again again, I know the record says it's the NFL. The margins are tiny. The Daniel Jones story is. I mean, the Jets are telling you we don't really trust this kid. Yet the Giants are like, no, We're asking them to make big throws in territory that's dangers to no receivers. They have no receivers. Daniel Jones is becoming a not geno smith. Shocking, but this turnarounds pretty impressive. One more Herd. The Herd streams twenty four hours a day, seven days a week within the iHeartRadio app. Search Herd to listen live or on demand whenever you like. The two twenty two World Series begins Friday, as Bryce Harper and the Phillies look to continue their storybook postseason run against an Astro's team, making their fourth trip to the Fall Classic in the last six seasons. Coverage begins Friday at seventies turn fourth Pacific only on Fox and Fox Sports at hour and a half. Didn't talk to Cowboys job, don't need to, but I will say this, My interpretation of that looked like every single Cowboy game I've seen this year. With Dak Or Cooper rush ten to six, Dallas led with two forty five and the fourth quarter, that's what the game was. They stay in the NFL, I don't they do? Jimmy Johnson does Sean Payton? Does you lose more games in the NFL than you win? Here's the Lions who let it half six three. Here's their second half possessions, interception, punt, fumble, interception, fumble, fumble. The Lions lost this game. The Cowboys didn't win it. Detroit lost this game. Doesn't mean they're better, but Dallas was lousy on third down. They averaged five and a half a play. They're no better than Detroit. They probably got a better coach and they've got a much better defense. But if you're pretending this was Dak led, you're nothing more than a fanboy. This The story of the Dallas Cowboys this year is defense, defense, defense. That is exactly what it is. Is Dak better than Cooper Rush? Yeah? And who cares? He should be? He makes forty million a year. This team is five and zero when the defense holds an opponent to seventeen or less. The two times their defense isn't amazing. The Cowboys are owing two one with Cooper, one with Dak. I think, I mean that's what they are. Any claim Dallas isn't about defense is you're just a fan, And that's okay. You should be a fan fan. That's watch the Phillies, you know, watch the Astros. Fans make sports, right, There's the athletes, then then there's the fans and it creates this amazing chemistry. But this is all about defense. This this this offense is limited with weapons limited at quarterback. Okay, on the offensive line, I mean what what? I don't even what is Zeke average a game? Now? Sixty yards a game? I think Ceedee Lambs is really talented, but he's not a dominant number one. This is a defensive story. And I think if it was twelve years ago, this team would be capable of winning multiple playoff games. And they are very lucky they are in the NFC and maybe even luckier than they're in the NFC East. But that game looked exactly like every Cowboy game this year with Cooper Dak. It sounds like you just called them a rich Man's New York Jets, right win with defense? Is Dak is better than Zack Wilson, Yes, yeah, yeah, but I'm saying, um, I mean, Dak's better than Cooper Rush, I would hope. So you're paying forty million dollars. That's like saying Colin loves his kids. It helps on their dad. I mean, it's like there's certain things that have to be true. By the way, Jared Goff won that game for Dallas, he was abysmal. I mean, two brutal interceptions that you showed every coach we've ever brought on the show, you'll lose more games than you'll win. Detroit lost that game. That thing was six three at half Detroit, it was ten six, ten six. With two forty five left in the fourth quarter, Detroit fumbled on the one yard line. I think at the kids. Paul Williams, he had never fumbled in his career six years in the league, first fumble ever at the goal line. Of course, I was on the Lions by one loss of the weekend. Not happy. Well, I don't think Dallas won. I think Detroit lost. I would agree one hundred percent with that, and then they are in the market for a quarterback. But if you're Detroit, do you go? Cej Stroud at the top. State quarterbacks have not had a lot of success in the none. There's never been a great Ohio state quarterback in the NFL. Not one ever. The very interesting top of the draft. It's gonna be Lions, Texans, maybe Seattle with Denvers No no, no, no Seatle's gonna win getting nu Us no Seattle with Denver's pick. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, good point. Here's dak On returning to the lineup after watching Cooper rush. This time that I had off, I was a blessing. Coop did an amazing job obviously of keeping us in this position, and once again just the defense and the team just playing complimenting football. And so it's important for me to see that and to recognize that no coming back. Don't try to do too much. It's great just to be a part of it. As I said, I'm just trying to play my role to make sure that I put this team in the best chance to win each and every game. If if you look at this, if you look at the pass rating one thirteen, you're like, whoa, It's like Detroit was Detroit in the second half, had multiple opportunities, fumbles, picks, awful coaching, bad by again, Well, Dak, Dak's better than Cooper Rush, but he's got to be better than him. You're paying forty million dollars a year. You've got to be better than them. Jay Mack with the News. No, no, turn on the news. This is the herd Line News. Start with a quarterback that we both like but has not played well in recent weeks. Lamar Jackson did absolutely nothing one hundred twenty passing yards. Ravens, who had blown double digit second half lets in all three of their losses, blew another one on Sunday, but they survived another Cave York missfield goal by the Browns, and Baltimore prevails twenty three twenty. I still like Baltimore so much. I do off though, doesn't it They're They're an exhausting team to love because you watch these games. You watch the Giants game ninety percent of it. I thought Baltimore was better. They lost. I watched this game ninety percent of it, outside of maybe an early drive. I thought Baltimore's way better, and they're either losing or clean on for dear life. I there's so much about Baltimore and the infrastructure I love. I still I like Lubart Jackson a lot, but they are exhausting. They lead points on the boy. You always feel like with Baltimore, they just left like ten points in the locker room. And I'm not blaming anybody. Just feels like that to me. There's too much about this organization, owner, GM, coach, quarterback, There's too much I like about them to ever bail on them. They're gonna end up winning the division or getting into the playoffs, but they are exhausting. I am glad I'm not a Ravens fan. They're an exhausting team to pull for. So if you watch that game closely, Colin Lamar Jackson not throwing at all. They ran the ball forty four times, taking the ball out of Lamar's hands. Yeah, and none of the carries were over twelve yards, So it's all like three yards in a cloud of dust with gust the bus and a little Kenyan Drake and Something seems off with the Ravens right now. I'm I can't put my finger on it, but they're not the Baltimore Ravens that we expected them to be. They should have never been a dog fight at all. Right, they can't happen now, let's be fair. Though it is a division game. It is a division game, and Cleveland's got six or seven great player Cleveland has the best guards in the league. They have Miles Garrett. They I mean, Cleveland's got players. They have a couple. I really actually like Cleveland corners a lot Newsom awards. Cleveland's got players, don't This is not a Cleveland I don't think this year. But if Deshaun Watson is ninety percent of what he was, they've got really good talent. Cleveland is not without talent. That is not the issue. Price to see Jacoby Brissette go up and down the field. They lost in Joku Amari Cooper's roasting Baltimore defensive backs. Something's off with the Ravens. I don't know. Um. Next up, Taylor Heineke. We had a good headline for him on Friday. He got his first start of the season for the Commander. Listen it didn't start well. He threw a pick six and then had a fumble for touchdown that was called off due to a penalty. He did finish with two hundred one yards, two touchdowns and got the dub twenty three twenty one over the Packers. After the game, he said he didn't pay any attention to anyone who doubted that he could help his team be success. I don't care about the doubters. I don't care what they have to say. I care about the people who believe in me, and I want to prove them right. That means more to me than anyone else has something negative to say. I want to prove the people that believe in me right more than the doubters. Row I could care less about those people. He's got a little Bailey's appy. You watch him, you can say what you want, a little undersized, get rid of it, a little bit of a gamer. Bailey's appy got bench tonight not happy. But we both like the commanders? Did we not at the commanders. It's interesting if you listen closer to what he just said, it's like the antithesis of Baker Mayfield. Baker Mayfield only cares what the doubters say he likes tweets that are negative. Taylor Heineke is like, mister positive, mister sunshine, I kind of did this this. Oh listen, they've won two in a row. Again. It's the Bears and the Packers. But they're gonna get Chase Young back here in short order. Terry McLaurin looked incredible yesterday. Beaten up on JayR Alexander a little bit. Keep an eye on Washington, NFC beast they're calling it now, not the NFC least Washington coming out of the cellar. I don't know if they fight for a wild card, but I like, honey, well, their divisions better than everybody thought, including well certainly better than I thought. Yeah, absolutely, yeah, all right, final story, Colin, This one is a little bit crazy. So if you look at the video here after the Bucks lost to the Panthers, a referee appears to be asking Mike Evans for an autograph. According to Tom Pellasaro of the NFL Network, the league is reviewing the incident because the CBA between the league and the referees states that no official can ask players, coaches, or team personnel for autographs or memorabilia. Ask yourself this how bad does your judgment have to be as an official to think this is appropriate? You have literally no. I mean again, it's we all make mistakes in life, but you had a lot of time there to go. God, this is a really bad decision. I remember talking about this years ago when I was on the air. I don't know if it's ESPN at the place before. I knew a major to gumpire that asked for like six autograph baseballs from Barry Bonds and it's like, I could name the umpire's name, and I'm like, I told him, I'm like, that's completely inappropriate. The look of impropriety is brutal. No, I mean, it's for my nephew, doesn't matter who it's for. Like, be smarter than that. I remember the league is embracing gambling now, even though it didn't factor in here or at all to the spread. This is one of those things that the league's gonna be like, I guarantee he's like, well, it's from my nephew. No, nobody. I would never let that guy work in the league again. Well, there's speculation online that this is his last year. He's on a retirement tour. I don't care. I agree. I agree with you on this, but uh, he's just not a good look at all. God, folks, that's not even a hard one to figure out. And if it was Mike Evans, what do you do for Tom Brady? You know, maybe you got P J. Walker's autograph. I don't know. He beat Brady J. Mack with the news. Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the Herd line. So much stuff here to talk about we haven't gotten to. Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays and noon Easter not a Empacific on Fox Sports Radio FS one and the iHeart Radio app. Hey, this is Jason McIntyre. 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We know what turbisky is. You don't know what Kenny pick It is. He's a first round pick. See if he can play. Secondly, he's not great yet. He had a couple three picks last night. He could have had five, and you're gonna lose a bunch of games. And that's actually the right plan. This is exactly what the process looks like. Peyton Manning year one, a lot of picks, a lot of losses. Joe Burrow year one, a lot of losses. Not necessarily picks, but a lot of losses. Josh Allen year one had more picks than touchdown passes. But those organizations don't have the Pittsburgh Steelers history, and so this is uncharted territory. This is a year of discovery. That's the term this year for Pittsburgh, the year of discovery. What do we got here? What do we not have here? Receivers are great, you got you got a running back, a tight end. I like defense, there's a lot you know you have. But in this league twenty twenty two, can a quarterback play? This is the process going on the road, asking him to make a bunch of rows, trailing seeing if he's got the it. I don't see a lot of special I told you I liked him in college. Then I talked to a lot of people who I trust, like scouts and executives and a couple GMS that I really trust, said, you know, he's a late second early third round pick. He's not a first round pick. And there isn't a lot of like wow and sizzle to his game. But this is what it looks like and you got to figure it out. And there's no reason to play a tribisky. If you'll lose the next eight games, you'll know what you have because they've got weapons. You can't tell me they don't have weapons, Claypool Johnson, George Pickens. Those are great weapons, very good young tight end nights, running back. So it's the year of discovery and it's bumpy and and you should lose, you'd rather win the Peyton Manning, Joe Burrow, Josh Allen, that's what it looks like, even if they become stars. This is kind of what it looks like. He's got to deal with it for a year. You've been winning for years. You never have a losing year. You gotta get over that. This could be the ugly year with four wins. But at the end of it, you're like, you know what, Kenny Pickett made a lot of mistakes. He won't make him. He won't make him in year two. Peyton Manning didn't make him as often. Year two, Josh Allen didn't make him as much. In year two, Joe Burrow didn't make him as often. A year two, year one is ugly. For the stars that can be unbelievably ugly. Mahomes in Kansas City, they sat him down. Watch Alex Smith, that's ideal. That doesn't happen much. That doesn't happen where you have a giving mentor. And Alex Smith and they get you to a playoff. And that's not the way it works in real life. It's ugly a lot. Pickett is a twenty four years old calling, so he's not like some young pop right out of college. I'm just curious, where are you on Pickett at this stage. I don't see the juice. But he's got three really good receivers. Claypool, Johnson and Pickens are very good. Well, Pickens a star. The other two are good. Pickens is a star, Naja Harris. The big problem is he has no offensive line. I mean, it's just crumbling every every every running first life, and they have no Tomlins got no offensive philosophy, speaking of full of sap. Even the all time greats need structure. Peyton Manning, the Colts had Tony Dungee, Bill Pauli and Ursy Hey. Michael Jordan had two three peats. He battled Jerry Krauss, he battled Ryan'sdorf, the owner, Phil Jackson and him. Phil Jackson asked him to make some sacrifices, but they had two three peats. Brady in New England a lot of sacrifice and a lot of structure. Guys love power. We like fast boats. And fast cars and knockout punches and home run hit it. We like power, and Brady moves to Tampa and he gets all this power. Let's get Bruce arians upstairs. I want Gronk, I want a b But am I the only person. The longer Brady is in Tampa, the weirder, uglier and stranger it gets. Year one was the year of overcoming pandemic practice super Bowl. Year two was the year of a boy. It's indifferent. Then we find out Tom was thinking about retiring, and Tom was thinking about buying the Dolphins a Year two was like indifferent and odd after the season. Year three is a mess. The team's a mess. You know, he's going through a horrible situation in his private life. I think he moved to Tampa and he was, you know, wanted a little more respect and a little more leverage and a little more say and a little more power. And be careful what you wish for, because the New England story for Tom was one of sacrifice, do your job, no days off, total structure, sacrifice, pay and here you have all the power and it is turning into a mess. It's like a little bit like Aaron Rodgers. Tom's numbers look good again, the passer rating. Now the numbers look good. And I'm not blaming Aaron and Tom for all of it, but it's like most people thrive in structure, need to be told. No, myself included. Everybody needs structure, and we're all guys tend to seek power. And the longer Tom's in Tampa, the stranger it gets. Belichick barked at him, Arians barked at him. Josh McDaniels barked at him. Todd Ball's defensive guy, Tom at your offense. This is what it looks like. You know what. This is what it looks like. Bad, not close, ugly, really ugly. Our number three still loaded live at LA. It's the hurt.