Colin talks to legendary head coach Rick Pitino about Flagg and why he’s destined for success in the NFL and why Caitlin Clark reminds him on Steph Curry
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It's NBA Draft night, a draft chuck full of domestic players. Couple Rutger guys, three guys d Cooper Flag will go number one Arizona. You're getting big schools, big brands, very good players. Is it a great draft? I think it's good at the top, but again it's an NBA draft. These are young players. It's not the NFL. We're guys giving it twenty three. They've been in call it for three or four years. Their bodies are mature. I mean even Cooper Flag right now. Had he not taken the opportunity to move ahead, he would be in high school getting his diploma right now, so he shouldn't have played college yet. But he was so good out of Maine in the Duke that they moved his progress up. And now Cooper Flag is gonna go number one to Dallas the number two pick. There are reports Dylan Harper that the Spurs, if they got an amazing offer, would move the pick. I don't think they're going to. But if somebody gets on the phone and offers at four number, you know, four lottery picks, you do it. You know, almost everybody's tradable. MAV's the first pick. I think we know they're going to take. I think Dylan Harper's the obvious pick for the Spurs. Dylan Harper not getting talked a lout because let's be honest, we watch college basketball mostly in March.
Six' six left the good.
Handles he's a really good, player not close to what he's going to. Become Whereas Cooper, flag you feel like you kind of know what he's going to look. Like But, harper of the two, players he's a, playmaker can create shots for himself and. Others you, know he's a smooth lefty and he is probably in the fifth inning of his. Development he's just starting so and a lot of these, drafts you, know in, baseball you can draft a college. Kid so he's been AT lsu or he's been at Like michigan a good, program so you kind of.
Know what you're.
Getting in THE, nba you're projecting a. Lot you're doing a lot of projecting on what's gonna. Be so it's hard to call any draft a great. Draft what you have now is a great, prospect Like weimby was a great.
Prospect we Thought zion And John morant.
Were great prospects and they just weren't mature enough at the time to take over a. Team WHAT i like About Cooper flagg is he won't be asked to take over a. Team he's got an a. Coach they've got an incredible front line In. DALLAS i said this last year with A Nico harrison trade With, Luca i'm, like If kyrie And ady didn't get, hurt this team is really, good really, good And cooper flag is what they need, transition can hit, three can be a.
Playmaker they need young.
Legs and he's a guy that needs to get out on the, break so he doesn't want he won't have to defend the. Rim dallas has trees back. There he can sit, back get the, ball couple dribbles past half, court ready to. Roll SO i think it's gonna BE i think it's gonna be an absolutely fascinating, draft One i'm gonna. Watch in, FACT i said last, YEAR i thought THE Wnba draft was better than THE Nba draft because THE wnba, stars the college basketball women's, stars john have been in college for four.
Years they're not leaving. Early and SO i Watched.
South, CAROLINA i watched the Women's final, FOUR i watch ucon. Play so a lot of the draft is your visceral. Connection that's, Why like whether you Like Baker mayfield or, not you watched him play for two or three years in. College you have an opinion on. Him Cooper, flag you have an opinion on, him and that's what makes THE nfl draft. Better to this point in THE Nba, draft we've seen him and we've got strong opinion for.
Sure you had, mentioned you, know one of the better prospects in the last decade With wemby And. Zion zion looked like an offensive lineman or a defensive unique body.
Type wemby's like eight feet.
Tall Cooper flag looks like what AN nba player is supposed to look, like right right in that six body.
Type it just.
Works you, Know, wemby it, might BUT i Mean he's already battled some. Injuries zion has battled his weight from the jump Like Cooper.
Flag that, translates.
Yeah AND i was reading Some Cooper flag stuff like some of you have, Done i'm sure over the last couple of. Days his high school career In. Maine one of the THINGS i really like about, him AND i think his, compass sort Of Jason. TATUM i just like how darn aggressive he. Is AND i think the old school players were all fighting for financial, pie The Michael, jordan's The Larry, BIRDS i, mean And Rick. Patino our guest knows that the league was. Feisty the league had some angry players fighting for the. Pie now bench guys make fifteen. Million they're all like. Friends they do each other's, charities they go on each other's. Podcast cooper's got a little old school. Feisty he's got a little old school. Chip AND i want to bring in many people over the, years WHEN i talked to them on or off the, AIR i always, say if there's a coach in, college you would not want to coach Against Rick patino's one or. Two And i've ASKED nba people, like give me somebody that changed the way you saw, basketball and they often Say Rick, patino he did At Saint, john's which all of us who Grew i'm A West coast. KID i grew up not loving The pac. TWELVE i love The Big.
EAST.
Pj, Carlissimo Louis Carnaseca, patino was It?
Providence that's the BASKETBALL i grew.
Up With beeheim At syracuse And Rick patino now who has Turned Saint john's. Around he has the number one incoming class coming. In, rick it's interesting people have grumbled about the transfer portal in THE nil and you had a really interesting take on, this which was stop grumbling about. It you're using it to your. Advantage SO i want to start. There there's been a lot of, changes but you've really put your arms around all the changes despite not being a thirty five year. Old that's easy when you're thirty five years, old you're an older. Coach why did you not grumble about the transfer portal AND nil and instead used?
It, WELL i felt the change was here and, quitting, resigning complaining is of no.
Value you have to win the.
Day you have to get the job, done AND i just felt, That, okay we're going to use it to the best of our abilities At Saint. John's so we're an urban, school we're a commuters, school we play In Madison Square garden as a home. Court how can we maximize off potential by embracing THE nil and the transfer. Portal we went away from high school basketball, players although we had taken one or two a year to, develop but by and large we've gone after older.
Players, RICK i have been saying this now for a, year that college basketball is having a, renaissance that THE nil is keeping some pros in college for one more, year and you guys are also poaching international players who are really, good and that WHEN i Watched yukon two years, AGO i, Said, okay college basketball's. Back they got SEVEN nba. Guys that team could compete against anybody that's a real basketball. Team, length, aggressiveness perimeter. DEFENSE i think you have gone back into. College do you notice it over the last year or two that there is a there's more layers to the talent in your.
Sport, definitely we've found that why go to THE G league when you can make seven eight hundred thousand. Dollars so Many european basketball players if they sign on With, olympiaco So, Puneta naiko so or. Somebody lower level, teams they're going to make maybe three hundred four hundred. Thousand they could go to college and make a lot more than. That so we're finding that The european players want to come here and attend college and stay away from going to the.
Pros so you have an intricate knowledge of high, SCHOOL, aau college pro. Basketball give me two traits About Cooper flag that you say to, yourself those are pro traits that will work.
Immediately, well he's physically.
Ready he's extremely, athletic he shoots the, basketball he's a tough young, man and he's maybe one of like three players that are ready to have an impact right away for The Dallas. Mavericks he's got a good inside, game good outside. Game he drives with, force he knows how to play the. Game he actually is, young he's skipped a year of high. School so's he's ready for THE nba AND i think he'll be an impact basketball player right.
Away so you FACED. Vj edgecombe From.
Baylor, okay what did you see that you like as a pro and is there anything he needs to work on as a?
Pro?
Vj is a tremendous. Athlete, fast he plays way way above the. Rim he's lightning quick in the open. Court he's got an average to good jump. Shot he needs a lot of work on his jump. Shot but that being, said most guys when they go to THE, nba from being the clad non shooters become great shooters by the time they're in their second third year in THE.
Nba, yeah it is.
FUNNY i don't Remember Ray allen being that good of a shooter in. College in, FACT i remember him being, athletic and five years later he's an unbelievable.
Shooter SO i don't. KNOW i think you're right on.
That so WHEN i look At Dylan, HARPER i see a guy that's in the fourth inning of a nine inning, game like he's got a long way to. Go, Again i'll ask, you if many suspect he's the number two, pick do you think he is worthy of a number two?
Pick what do you, see RICK i Do because he understands the.
Game there are very few players out there that totally get the game and how it should be.
Played Dylan happer is someone that understands the.
Game he has great, pace great, tempo gets his shout off in, traffic but really understands how to make players. Better there aren't too many guys in the drift that make players. Better he's one of, those you.
KNOW i it's funny about THE, nba WHERE i.
Think it's an. Advantage in THE.
Nba people have always, said, oh you want to be you want to be in a big. Market and my take is, no if you're in a big, market tibbs happens that the owners, like we got to win. Now but In Okac sam prest he's doing a. Rebuild it's the only game in.
Town they're.
PATIENT i, Mean San antonio won thirty four games last. Year they haven't won more than that in six. Years everybody's all in on the youth. Movement nobody has a. Problem when you look you went To, boston which is the most Pressurized East coast. Market when you look at THE nba right, now.
Do you like where it's at as a.
Sport do you think they're doing a good enough job taking your college players and developing them or do you think sometimes it's a rush.
Job the MISTAKE i think people are making is did too much in tea young. Players for, Instance Walter, clayton Junior. Yeah Walter, clayton WHO i recruited At. Iona he won two high school championships back to. Back comes WITH, us wins A mac, championships he's THE mvp of the. League then he goes To florida as a, transfer elevates his, game wins the national championship right, away very similar TO i look at him like a smaller version Of murray From.
Denver Walter clayton.
Junior because he's a little, older he should If i'm a, COACH i want A Walter clayton junior BECAUSE i know he's a knockdown. SHOOTER i know he makes free. Throws he's an unbelievable foul. Shooter he knows how to, pass he has good. Verticality he does EVERYTHING i want as far as a. Winner but they, say, well he's a little, older so we'll draft the younger. Players it's almost like it's an excuse for the general managers in the scouts to draft a, really really young, player so if he doesn't make, it they'll just, say well he's.
Young it's a building.
Excuse, yeah you know It's we were just talking About Sean payton earlier and all the roadblocks he was able to overcome In, denver AND i, said, Yes sean can be a little overconfident and he's. DIRECT i, said but get over. That people are either, good so is your orthopedic. Surgeon people are confident or they're. NOT i don't have to love my. Pilot can you get me through a lightning? Storm and Take my takeaway is you have been able. There And i'm not even gonna tell you.
Who told me.
This i'll just SAY i talked to two coaches WHO i, respect and they, said here's What patino. Does one of them, was, man they're. Practices rick's gonna work. You those are tough practices if you were Scouting Rick, patino and don't be humble.
Here what do you, Think? Rick what is your?
Belief what are the two things that have made you capable OF i Thought Saint john's they've been trying for twenty years to turn it. Around what is your? Secret SAUCE a couple of tenants from that.
Well we have played development sessions every Month monday Through, friday where we go three to four different sessions with four, players and we try to take players like A Donovan mitchell And Terry rogier who maybe's not ranked top twenty twenty five in high. School they've got a little bit of a. Weakness Donovan mitchell had a weakness with the ark on his jump. Shot everybody's got a weakness coming out that's not top. Ten so we try to take those player development sessions and make the players. Better our, practices, yes are very, difficult BUT i will say, this they're not. Long we don't go more than two, hours but we go hard for two. Hours we're up and down for two. Hours IF i make a comment a, correction it's going to be within twelve, seconds and then we're moving. On because conditioning is a gigantic part of our style of.
Play, yeah, no, NO i heard that At louisville as. Well SO i got to ask you About Caitlin. Clark So i've always tried to defend general managers in THE nba in THE. Nfl it's not an exact. SCIENCE a kid becomes a, pro now he gets. Money you don't. KNOW i was going to, react he may miss home if he played At, alabama now he's playing In.
Seattle you just don't. Know i've got.
Kids you just don't. Know Gino oriama, Said, Hey caitlin will be. Fine but give me a, break she won't be that. Good, Well gino knows basketball pretty well and he undervalued. Her when you Watch Caitlin, clark what do you see? That you, Go, wow that is. SPECIAL i mean she can shoot, obviously what. Else, well she's a great.
Passer she reminds me Of Steph curry When Steph curry came into the. League she's doing what step did early. On she has unbelievable, range she has great. Visions she's a terrific. Passive you, know she's physically a little, weak but that's that's she'll she'll get stronger as time goes. On but she really understands how to. Play and she reminds me of a female version Of Steph. Curry incredible, Range.
Yeah she really. DOES i want to go back to THE.
Nil here's my only knock on THE nil transfer. PORTAL i think sometimes it's the wild Wild. WEST i don't. Think my take is you should not be able to transfer once you go to a school eighteen. Months can't. Transfer everybody always, says, well the coaches, Leave no they. Don't, no coaches aren't leaving in the middle of A coaches aren't leaving that. Much the bottom line is most of you guys never want to. Leave the athletic director asks you relieve so and also managers and let my bosses have things At fox THAT i don't. Get they Should they're responsible For. Fox i'm just responsible for my. Show SO i do think coaches are different than. Players but here's WHAT i don't like about THE nil is That i'm not going to fight through. It louisville wants, me they'll pay me.
MORE i.
DON'T i, MEAN i look At Michael jordan's career and it's really steeped in failure, early which makes him. Great THE nil worries me that we're taking away the hurdling and the bulldozing of, obstacles that it's just easier to go.
Make twice the.
MONEY i, mean, because let's face, it if you play, it they recuse and they recruited, you you can go down a level and get more money potentially because you're a great.
Player that part bothers. Me does it bother?
You?
YEAH i think that's the next the weakness of THE.
Nil, now during the, year we would meet with our general manager and he would say to, me yet this young man is thinking of transfer. Ic wait a, second It's january and the guy's killing. It he's having a great. Season why would he think about. Transferring, well he's just not. Happy he can make more money. Elsewhere and that's the bad thing OF. Dnil it's so many agents out there are negotiating during the year to.
Get a player more. Money and who's involved in this?
NOW i will say, this more so than any period of my fifty one years in, COACHING i have never seen parents as involved in this whole thing Like i'm seeing in the last four to five. Years WHEN i first started recruiting thirty forty years, ago parents you go in the, home you meet, them and that was the extent of after the campus, visit parents were really in the. Background, today total. Opposite the parents are on the forefront of. Everything and the reason being the money is so substantial that now agents handle is the. Parents everybody's involved in all of. This it's never a SITUATION i never have to go into a home. Anymore they visit campus and you should see the legions of people that come to these.
Kids, yeah let me ask.
You it's interesting about this when when you look at this.
DRAFT i said this.
Earlier you can look at THE nfl and, go that's a good draft because they're twenty three year. OLDS i got four years of. TAPE i don't think we're ever gonna have great drafts. AGAIN i think we're gonna have great prospects in the, draft Like Cooper. Flag but how would you categorize if you were a scout in THE, nba how would you categorize this? Draft can you have a GREAT nba draft?
Anymore with all the?
Youth, WELL i think this draft is not as strong as. OTHERS i think this, draft certainly the players from duca. TERRIFIC i look at how they can, contribute not only right away but down the.
Road who has great?
Upside and there are players here that have, upside especially To european basketball. Players for some, Reason france is now an untapped. Country they are really developing outstanding basketball players and it's gotten very, competitive and so you don't know about the foreign players they come. In they may have more upside because they're not seen as much as the college.
Kids you threw out the first pitch At Yankee.
Stadium if you were not a basketball, coach where is baseball in your life right?
Now were you a baseball? Fan, WELL i grew.
UP i lived in The bronx in the summertime with my, grandparents AND i would my two girl cousins WHO i was about ten nine. Ten we would take one subway stop The Yankee stadium AND i would watch Man, O maris Wow, Well Quebec Cleatis, Boyer Bobby, Richison Moose, scarett A Whitey ford on the. Mound and SO i became a Huge yankee fan from those days as a, youngster and Today I'M i bought four season tickets right behind The yankee.
Dugout is nothing better.
For me than just sitting there having a cold beer and watching the plays At Yankee. Stadium it's it's really a great. Moment, yeah you, know you can just sit there and relax and. Decompress.
Yeah every other sport has a certain level of, urgency and baseball is the one that doesn't have the. Clock AND i find myself when you go to a baseball, game it feels.
Different you can have a conversation with a.
Friend just just make sure When Aaron judge comes, up if he fouls one, off you're paying.
Attention you. Know you know what's.
Funny WHEN i first broke into, business THE nba and THE nfl were like, this college, football college, basketball we're on equal. Terms, today THE nfl and college football have just raised the boss so high that we're not even in a Bad saturday college football game will outdraw.
AN nba playoff.
Game. Yeah so football has just reached a level where six days a, week all the talk shows are just talking about THE. Nfl And i'm sure the gambling component has a lot to do with, it one game per, week no question about.
It but the popularity of.
Football today just blows me away from where it was thirty years.
Ago you, KNOW i did you? Know And i'll tell you, This AND i Told Adam sober. THIS i think THE nba marginalized college. Basketball THE nfl is always understood it's best. Friend it's ally is college. Football it micro waves the. Stars AND i, think And i've Told adam, this AND i Love, adam BUT i, thought it's like w' into the G league.
And i'm like time. Out the coaching's better in.
College the environments in college get you ready for THE. Nba you go play At kentucky'll play At. Syracuse that's AN nba, environment a playoff. Environment you don't get that in THE G, league AND i THINK i think they found. OUT i think they found out that college basketball That march. Tournament it's free advertising and the coaching's. Better so if you looked at the, Finals Rick oksee In, indy you know you didn't SEE g. Leaguers it was actually not only college. Guys it Was Obie, toppins it WAS, tj it was multiple years of college. BASKETBALL i thought THE Nba finals was an advertisement for college basketball AND i loved.
It, yeah And Adam silva is thinking about. It i've heard him talk about it about going, global having A EuroLeague, overseas AND i think that would be great because then you could take your Young europeans or maybe college guys that are, ready put them in a professional environment like The EuroLeague is over, there and to get them ready for THE. NBA i think it's something that we're looking at down the.
Road, rick what a real pleasure for.
Us you've got a mind that is rarely rivaled in your, sport, international, DOMESTIC, nba AND i just appreciate you taking twenty. Minutes you're a busy. Guy good luck To Saint. JOHN'S i FOUND i said it last. YEAR i don't care who gets. IN i Want Cooper, Flag Tom, izzo And Rick patino in the final. Four whoever else makes, It i'm. GOOD i was fascinated by your story and your Team this year with the incoming class looks.
Great so, congrats thanks so May thanks for having.
Me you Bet Rick, patino who has TURNED i mean listen. Man Saint john's is a great. Story they're playing at The. Garden you got a great, coach he knows THE. Nba they've some of their, boosters and they got a couple boosters that got. Money Saint john's basketball is good for college. Basketball it feels With patino in The. Garden it feels Big.
Bill that was.
Cool, yeah the guy knows his.
Stuff that was.
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News, well speaking Of, Edelman speaking Of, edelman The, patriots they've had it pretty good and not too many.
Bad years Since Robert kraft fought the team back in nighteen nine.
Four, obviously it felt like they made the playoffs every single year With belichick And brady won a bunch of, rings and things fell off a little bit obviously the last couple of seasons four and, Thirteen belichick's last year last year With Gerrod, mayo and speaking At Fanatics, Fest Robert kraft admitted that the last two years were the worst in his run as, known vowing that things will change this season.
Well for the first time Since belichick And brady's last, YEAR i FEEL i have an a coach and an a quarterback at least potential, prospect and.
This is a coach quarterback.
LEAGUE i think Hiring Jared mayo was still a connection To, belichick AND i think when legendary coaches, lead you have to break.
TYPE i think.
You can't say we're going to get somebody that reminds me Of belichick's, like, no, no, no If, pittsburgh If tomlin goes go to an offensive, coach you had a great defensive. Coach SO i think what happens in a, dynasty it's hard to let go because for twenty years everything worked with a defensive culture and defensive. Mindset so you're, like, Well Gerrad mayo embodies a lot of Those Garad, Mayo we're not even, Sure like he six weeks, In you're, Like i'm not, sure especially with a rookie quarterback in a division With Josh, Allen, like was he going to be a guy that was ever going to?
Succeed.
YEAH i think With belichick it was always going to end a little. Rough Once brady bounced in The Mac jones thing and Then josh McDaniels. LEFT i do Think patriot Fans Robert craft, included it doesn't get Any we're never seeing that, again the twenty plus years of the two, guys even Coach reid In, MAHOMES i mean coach reads in his bit. Sixties you know When belichick when they started, THAT i Think bill was about late, forties early, fifties so we had a longer, runway and you, know life was pretty, good AND i think they got a little sense of this is THE. Nfl sometimes you make a bad, higher you make a bad. Pick Obviously bill made a. Few you picked the wrong. Quarterback, yeah that's what you. Get AND i think it's got to be humbling for them dominating that division and now Seeing buffalo turn into The, patriots, RIGHT i, mean they were just running away with that division every single.
Year, well it generally works that.
Way Peyton manning To Andrew luck is a total outlier far To rogers is an. Outlier the dynasty usually ends and somebody else gets the. Quarterback AND i also think the league pivoted the last couple of years In bill's coaching With, brady it pivoted to an offensive, league and The patriots couldn't draft skill, players SO i think the last couple of, years And Tom brady saw this because he said he was going to leave a year out before he, left it was starting to crumble in that last Year tom was In New.
England, Well i'll Give Robert kraft and The craft family credit on this. One they made a bad mistake In mayo and they pivoted immediately and they.
Win Got vrabel who's, available AND.
I don't know if it's, lucky but it's going to work, OUT i think pretty well for The. Patriots, okay onto THE, nba where the draft obviously tips off, tonight with The MAVs expected to Select Cooper flag with the number one overall. Pick dallas got extremely lucky landing the pick after trading Away luca mid, season And flag was asked about the preseped the pressure of Succeeding Luka.
DUNGEON i wouldn't look at anything as. PRESSURE i, think you, know any going into whatever SITUATION i go, Into i'm just gonna try and be myself all the, time And i'm gonna push myself to be better and better every single, day and And i'll make the most out of every, day you, Know i'm not worried about living up to certain players expectations or are are things like. That i'm just gonna be myself and really just trying to get better every single day THAT i.
CAN i don't think he has to Replace.
Luca luca is viewed as a mistake by the general. Manager that player is tied forever To Nico. Harris that's not A Jason kidd. Problem that's not A Cooper flag replaced. Problem cooper's a fresh start after what's perceived as a mistake by ownership and the front. OFFICE i don't look at it and, think, oh, kid you better be as good As. Luca luca is an international, Player luca should still be, there SO i don't see him as. REPLACED i think it's a JUST i, think AND i also Think cooper's a different. Player he's much better. Defensively he's a domestic. Player we watched him in college, that Like, luca came from nowhere unless you were A diard. BASKETBALL i don't see the. Correlation Not chevy. NO i mean it's like that's not an, Issue Like luca is just an all time prodigy, offensively whereas we think Of Cooper flagg as he's not an all time. Prodigy he's a highly well rounded duke.
PLAYER i also think it's a little.
Easier, obviously The mavericks are a BIG nba, brand but they're the second brand in their city with The Dallas cowboys going into the. Ball this is not like a situation if The luca situation had been on the reverse to The lakers or to The, celtics where THE nba team is. King he kind of gets to ease, in and like you, said fans aren't mad at. Him he had nothing to do with. It if, anything If i'm a, FAN i was. Out Now i'm kind of creeping back.
In.
YEP i. Agree, okay, last but not, least sticking with THE nba The thunder they are, off obviously winning THE Nba championship Big game seven win over The. Pacers despite raising the, TROPHY a recent report indicates That Sam presty is looking to trade up into the top, ten building a package around a bunch of picks, fifteen.
Twenty, four forty.
Four colin crazy to think The thunders could add a top ten.
Pick no after winning the, Finals.
No this is exactly what you should. DO i want to take you to a football. Thing remember years ago With Marty schottenheimer when The chargers had like Twelve pro bowlers AND Aj, smith THE gm gave up all these picks for the safety From Utah Eric weddle, Yep AND i REMEMBER Aj smith saying there are not four kids in this draft that can start or play for. Us we need a. Safety that guy's. Great so my take is they have such. Depth now you could draft.
Four, guys two may not make the.
Roster you're much better off going and getting the sixth pick and saying this guy is immediately a rotational. PLAYER i think when you're good and, young and it's very, rare you're not usually this good in this young but when you, are they don't need a bunch of. Youth what they need is the best player they can get out of this.
Draft how many guys in this draft.
Could make their roster five less AND i would say less with their current.
Picks but if you could get the fifth pick or.
The sixth, Pick, okay that guy's gonna play next. Year now he may be the third guy off the, bench but it's such an. Advantage it's so rare historically for a young team to win a. Title they don't need more, youth they need the best of the.
Youth CAN i give you another football, Example Thomas Demetrov once upon a time when he Had Matt. Ryan, Yes belichick, said don't do. It he, Said i'm trading way up For Julio. Jones, NOW i don't know if there's A Julio jones at pick five or six in THIS nba, draft BUT i think that logic when you especially when you factor in the. MONEY i think the question Was Sam, presti who just nails draft fix is?
INCREDIBLE.
Gm this owner in your backyard here with The, lakers all that. MONEY i, mean he's he's the top. Dog they're gonna come after him pretty, CONSISTENTLY i would.
IMAGINE i think you're right On John middlecoff with the.
News, well that's the, news and thanks for stopping. That The herd.
Line Cleveland brown quarterback. Situation and it's Not shado who is turning. Heads remember we're Off shador and there's a rumor The spurs are going to trade the number two.
Pick i'll have thoughts on.
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Fox i've said in The, east one of the TEAMS i like Is orlando Bang Caro, Wagner Jalen. Suggs and then they go Get Desmond bay and they've got their core. Four AND i think these days you kind of need a core. FOUR i think you just Watched Oklahoma. City you GOT, sga you got like a Chedd, holgern A Jay. Dubb you've got you, know Either Lou Dort. Cruz so you got your core. Four Maybe hartenstein's that fourth. Guy so there's a report today that The San Antonio spurs they've already Got, wimby so they got their big they Got Stefan, castle so they've got their combo. Guard they've Got Jeremy, sohan who's a quirky, player but he's. There he's, There, rodman he's, There, forward he's. There you, know kind of a unique. PLAYER i do not think they're going to trade the number two pick And Dylan. HARPER i think he is going to be their core for. Now somebody comes on the, phone there's a report that they they would accept the trade with a ridiculous Hul you always pick up the. Phone unless you Have Patrick mahomes or A Josh, allen you picked the phone. Up SO i think the two things The spurs have going for. Them number, one The San antonio community trusts. Them there's so much equity with the five titles since ninety nine that they'll be. Patient it doesn't matter that they're. Young the fans in the media are all. In and number two, advantages they're the only game in. Town like In Los, angeles they'd be, like trade the, pick you got The dodgers. Winning harbaugh's in town with The, chargers The, RAMS usc and the big ten In Los, angeles you know you got you. Gotta they've got too many Options San. Antonio if you got, money you're a season ticket. Holder SO i think the core four is gonna. STAY i don't think they're gonna trade. HIM i Mean San antonio With wemby only won thirty four games last. Year they only won twenty two games in year one With. Wemby in six seasons they HAVE i think thirty four wins as. Tops so nobody's screaming in the, media nobody is screaming in the fan base that you got to move this pick and get a. VETERAN i THINK i think they're gonna Keep Dylan harper in the. PICK i think they're gonna move Dearon. Fox that's WHAT i think they're gonna. Do so my, protection my prediction is they keep the. Pick harper's not ready to be. Great he's probably in the third or fourth inning of what he'll, be but he's got a lot of. Traits Rick betino was on talking about, that and again you pick up the. Phone but San antonio has so much equity built in the organization that there is no immediate need to.
Win you can be.
Young people feel like In San antonio it's the only game in. Town you're along for the. Journey you know your team better than anybody else. Does you're not getting you, know San antonio two years ago is not getting on NATIONAL. Tv they're accumulating. Picks we don't know how GOOD sga is going to be SO i think they keep the pick they've. Got you, Know pop is not. Coaching they got a new. Coach people will be. Patient one of the things that really Hurts New, York chicago AND la teams is. IMPATIENCE i, mean how many games Is Russell wilson you going to get before they Play Jackson dart. Four you, know in the smaller everybody was always afraid of big. MARKETS i don't like slow. DOWN i said for, Years New york teams are, Bad The bears are, Bad washington was. Bad the pressure that talk radio and the owners listen to, that and the relentless, newspapers and the fans have multiple. Options they'll go watch the baseball, team or THE nba, team or THE nfl, team of the local college.
Team they got things to. Do in these big.
Cities a lot of people making money got a second. Home they'll go to the. Beach And i've always said this About Los. Angeles if you don't, win people don't give up their season, tickets but they just go To vegas or they go to the beach and they move. On Los angeles is lucky that a lot of stars want to play here because of the winter weather is so, nice BUT i Think San antonio has such an advantage of equity only game in. Town it doesn't matter if next year they went only forty. Games nobody's calling for anybody's. Head, okay SO i saw this, story AND i know he's a little, flaky But brown's a wide. Receiver Deon Day, johnson a little, flaky believes that Won Kenny pickett will emerge as the team's starting. Quarterback so it is time for our first edition of The Kenny Picket Press. Gazette extra extra read all about. It high praise from the very Trustable Deontay. Johnson i'm also Told Kenny pickett drives the speed limit and comes to a complete stop at every. Opportunity this is WHAT i like to. SEE a veteran supporting a young, MAN a trustable veteran Supporting Kenny. PICKETT i Know deontay can be a bit.
Of a head.
Case do not attack the. MESSENGER i Trust Deontay johnson's. Opinion Kenny pickett is now the quarterback of note the. Quarterback we will discuss first edition of The Kenny Pickett Press. Gazette apparently he has looked very. Good you, KNOW i haven't asked, you who do you think wins this quarterback?
Competition you know what Team Deontay johnson was on last. Year it's called the waiver. Wire that's where he. WAS i think we gotta be. CAREFUL i Think Joe flacco will win, it but, uh you, know the one of the rookies will be In.
And you AND i have talked about.
This the coaching staff Wanted Dylan gabriel From, oregon, right that's why they drafted him in the third.
Round the owner oneted the other guy in the fifth.
Round, NOW i think the coaching staff can push back a little bit after. Him we told you a couple of. Tickets but he's still on the. Team they're not going to cut. Him so bizarre, situation but it's it's The Cleveland, browns and that's what tends to. HAPPEN i think what's what they should have, done and it was he asked for a. Trade they could have reset everything by Trading Miles. Garrett now they were able to still make that trade With Travis. Hunter THEIR gm and their coach are. GOOD i think they are a well run. Organization the owner just he just can't help. Himself he just likes to get active in.
Football, NO i was telling somebody the, great late Great Jim ersay was a remarkable human, being tons of, compassion fascinating. Guy in the last couple of, years, THOUGH i thought he got, really really, impulsive and you're kind of as an, organization you're a little bit trapped because you, know Like Carson wentz had a really good, year bad game At, jacksonville and they're, like get him out of. Town, Well Chris baller didn't want to get him out of. Town the staff didn't want to get him out of. Town Think frank W reich was the coach that liked, him and SO i kind of feel, like you, Know Jimmy, haslam Like Johnny, manziel the staff wanted to Draft Teddy. Bridgewater he Liked Deshaun. Watson guaranteed. CONTRACTS i, mean first of, all guaranteed contracts are. Rare with his, baggage you wouldn't do it. Now baker is the best of all their. Quarterbacks baker's better than all these guys they have right. Now but, again that was a, hootspa you, know let's go for. IT i Like baker's, Attitude SO i do think sometimes the owners do get in the, way AND i Feel cleveland's owner has gotten in the. Way AND i Think Jim mersey was, remarkable BUT i think in his last three or four, years The Andrew luck, retirement they got a little impulsive.
UPSTAIRS i think you could always scout a draft. Room you, know sometimes.
The owner he's just eating sushi or sandwich in the, corner letting HIS gm and coach. Cook and then there's The jimmy types that are kind of right in between the two and a chair, hovering you, know giving them their pointers what they believe their draft. Board the worst of all time Was Dan, snyder who'd have his own draft board and implement that thing the day of the.
Draft, yeah BUT i.
Think The Shador, Sanders Joe, Flacco Canny pickett is just a disaster waiting to have it.
GOING i, mean it's not going to be. Good.
YEAH i mean there's last, year for one of the only TIMES i, remember the bottom of THE nfl looked like the bottom of THE. Nba that are like eight teams that could not. Compete giants just could not, compete you, Know Saints. RAIDERS i think last year's quarterback draft class again takes some wabbily franchises and solidifies, them kind of modifies HOW i view. THEM i do Think, cleveland The, saints and Both New york teams are on a short. List IF I i had a guest, today the bottom four teams showing the limitations of, coaching although it's, IMPORTANT i would Say, saints he'll be the worst team in the. League giant, Second, cleveland, Third jets.
Fourth the one Thing cleveland they had The jags.
Pick, NOW i don't know how bad The jags are going to, be but they're gonna have some amo next. Year and, well it looks like a pretty good quarterback class in. College SO i would guess that they drafted two quarterbacks in twenty twenty five and draft another quarterback in twenty twenty. Six probably not the ideal, strategy but it's it's one they've implemented there in Clear, well.
It did work For. Arizona Steve kimes, Said, okay we're gonna.
Go Get Kyler murray After.
Rosen, yeah and it's Like i've had a cigar or two With steven talked about that and he just, said hey, man we looked at you, know we looked at all the film and we just Said we're trying to catch up to The niners and The rams and The, seahawks and this kid can help us catch up very very. Quickly, ALSO i, THINK i mean the greatest coaches in the history of the. LEAGUE i, mean Remember Andy, Reid Love Kevin Kobb, like it's okay to miss on this. STUFF i know that internet, trolls anonymous internet net trolls are never.
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