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LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox filling in for calling here hour two of this three hour extravaganza.
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That time at that hour, So Lee, yeah, yeah, probably Lee, probably our producer.
Yes, this we do know. He really is almost he may not.
Be with us. He may be walking the streets.
Lee may not make it back. A lot of stuff goes on on Bourbon Street. Man, I mean you guys, God, I wish you guys could see him. He really, He's going on, how many what are we? Forty five minutes sleep?
He said, uh yeah, if that not that not quite that much.
I had about a half hour. I don't know how much of that was actual sleep.
Can I just go back to the question. I think we've all brought it up. You must want to prolong this relationship. If you're choosing to run it out only for a month, talk to him. Can not just lower the price and trying to sell it like just so you can cut ties.
Tell him if I can sell it today, I would, but I'll take the I'll take the month runt.
You're lying, dude, You're lying, Lee?
Yes, why do you you?
You know, habitual liars do not realize that they are lying, bro, like you.
Have like Stockholm syndrome. Man, I'm just saying, there's something going on here.
It's not that bad, is it not?
Hey?
Lee?
Why we're in a crop top today?
Jeez?
It's a new fan Punky Brewster. He how's your computer doing?
I got a new charger. So on my third computer, now on my third laptop, Well, why is that? Lee? The other one got a little wet. Le didn't have a flo How to get wet?
Lee? I don't know. I don't know. By the way, it was nobody in the body of water. You weren't in the body of water. That that that computer, that laptop he.
Was taking for a frisbee. M bye.
Who By the way, Le doesn't use air tags. He uses lifeguards to get his belongings back.
Hey, Lee, who thought that your.
Laptop was a frisbee?
I don't know. I just saw fly out the window, that's all.
What window? Whose windows? From your window?
That is correct?
Okay, all right.
All right, so there you go.
All right, all right, So from from that and we'll get to the bottom of whatever the hell's going on there with Lee and why why Lee found out an hour before the show he was homeless. Cam Newton, the former NFL quarterback, is now making the rounds. He's not a huge fan of uh, you know, Jason Whitlock and some others.
These days.
There's been a lot of back and forth from Cam and the media. If you're at a seven on seven tournament, and you try and throw down with him, He'll just control you with one r and slap your buddies around.
Will never lose his hat. He looked like Jean Claude Van Damit, he afraid.
Did he have any more ks on him? Like any rips in his close any amazing.
Not even a wrinkle.
And I've said I will say it before.
He is an Adonis, Like he is one of the most physically imposing people you have ever seen. Like you you got to see when when defenders walk on the field pregame and they see how big Cam was. Like I remember playing against Been twenty twelve and I was just like, dude, I was like, bruh, yeah, yeah, someone's got to try to tackle him in our second the same size?
What are you?
No, No, buddy, I swear to God when I stood there and you like you look up like he I don't know what he is. He's listed has if he's six five six, No, he is like six foot seven, he's he's closer to six seven.
Then I swear he is six five.
He's I just and he can he can he deal?
Yeah?
He was.
He was a bad dude.
Yeah, he's good at media. I mean he's he's a lightning rod in media. I mean, people are paying attention to him.
He's basically Brady Quinn. Is what you're saying, Lebar the black version?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a great point. Yeah, and a little bit more athletic, you know what I mean?
Ay Lee?
Can we run with that on Twitter? Brady Don Brady Quinn is the white Cam Newton or Cam Newton is the black Brady Quinn. If you just do that, I think, very good looking dude, keep going over six foot four.
I'm with you.
Yeah, I mean definitely not music. You could attest to this too correct Well. Not only is that, I just want to know who has the better hat collection, because Brady, I hear you get pretty close to some of these things we've seen Cam Newton wearing.
Cam's hats are crazy where you actually actually, if we're really going to call it someone for their hats on this show, it's all you showed up with a fire hat at a funeral.
I did what I did. It was a black hat.
I can't bring this up because it's listen, I know that that is correct and and his and he had perfect vision. He was able to see, like you know, any uh any hammocks right.
There was three takeaways from that funeral.
There was at the gravesite.
I didn't want to see it, but some things you just see.
You know.
It was Levar's hat. I was like, oh, that's a statement hat for a funeral.
It was the It was it was your your in laws, your family, and that car that I believe in hydraulics.
Yes, yes man. It was like half the block with with with with Tyrone the chauffeur.
And and and a twine bailey in the back. And that's six ten.
I've never seen someone pull up to a funeral.
I was like like Cam Newton sitting on someone's shoulders.
He all I know is the Knox Brothers. Yeah, boys, y'all got this stating for whips. I had no idea what's all about. But y'all, y'all, y'all vehicles. I don't get it.
The last thing was is the the attire was risquet.
B Uncle LeVar like a shot approve. I'm sitting there saying my goodbyes.
And while I'm looking to say my goodbyes, so was I a red thong? I mean, I didn't know. I couldn't look at the final flight.
Burial was like, brought the sling shot. I looked at LeVar like did you just see that? He just gave me that like very sly nod of like yes, yeah.
So just if we can peel back the curtain just a bit, the curtain of the thong.
We just peeled back just a bit. We uh we all.
I think it's the only time that this show has ever all gotten together. Outside the show is at a funeral, uh not not to be named. Who was who was who was being lowered down? But somebody at the funeral who was a a family member decided to go no belt and red thong when they bent over to say they're goodbyes, and LaVar was the first one to spot it, like a draw spotted LeVar like a drone space You are stupid.
I am not a hawk a like that.
I was looking at the we're looking at I was like, Wow, that's a beautiful casket. Whoa what is that?
Like?
Why is that there?
LeVar? Just one of these things don't belong here.
Everybody. It's like a somber moment. People are laying flowers on the casket. It was that moment you just hear LeVar in the background, Go, jeez, LeVar, you.
Saw the red Road and it matched the Red Falls and that was what it.
Was, very Rose reddish and I don't know why I remember that, but do you know?
So from that over to Cam Newton, Yeah. Cam Newton has some thoughts on the debate between MVP and Super Bowl. Obviously an MVP winner, obviously not a Super Bowl winner, did appear in one and this was his take on First Take yesterday.
I asked you, Cam, if you could give back that league MVP for a Super Bowl championship, would you do it?
Nope?
Oh?
Really? Really?
Wow?
What's more important impact or championships? If we're being honest, the impact of you holding yourself accountable to say everybody has a responsibility to do.
And you could say, as an MVP.
Award winner or All American, you've hailed yourself or you've hailed Joe into the bargain down, and that's what it really comes down to for me.
I know that's not the popular pickup.
I'm trying to be popularized, but my take is I'm taking individual success because I did my job.
So there's Cam Newton discuss disagree with him.
You guys could take it First, I don't disagree with like all of it. So I would rather have a super Bowl. I would rather have a chance, I would have rather have a national title. I'd rather have a super Bowl. But he's I mean, what is inaccurate about what he's saying. If you've held yourself personally to the highest standard that you can, and you worked your now if it came at the expense of others, if you getting the award that you got most Valuable Player award, which how would you be the most valuable player? If you're costing your teammates, if you're costing the team games.
So to me, I.
Would I can understand the reasoning of saying that I'd rather have the MVP title or whatever it may be, based off of what I've helped myself accountable to to what my level of play is going to be.
I mean, I don't have a problem with that. Let me just put it this way.
I think when he answered the question, he answered it, but then he kind of pivoted to like a different conversation, because what you're talking about are like two kinds of separate things. To me, if you asked me and granted, like I guess the only thing I can say is, you know, when the Heisman, I won the Maxwell, right, so that's a Player of the Year award. Would I have traded that for a national championship? There is no doubt in my mind. And I think had I had a successful enough career to ever win MVP or even be a part of a team won a super Bowl, to me, there's no hesitation.
You take the championship and take the super Bowl.
And I think it's in part because you know, for me person because because look, it's all about perspective, it's all about how he feels like he won the MVP. Now he's been to a Super Bowl, he lost it, and so I would I would think from his perspective, there's not too many other people that could kind of understand what he's saying and how he's saying it and why he wouldn't trade that. But I think for most players, most people, you would take the championship in part because it's not such an individual thing. You get to share that moment, that history. You know, it's one more than forever, right. You hear that phrase all the time because you're gonna forever be remembered in history together as a part of that team that won a championship, and that, to me is the ultimate thing about football. Like what I love about football is even as much importance as the quarterback position has. And you might say, hey, it's the most important position in all of sports. That may be the case, but there's still a defense. There's still all these other variables and pieces and people around you that it takes in order for you to be able to win. It's the ultimate team sport. Nothing else is even close in my mind. So because of that, I think the power of winning a championship and all the people that it impacts, your teammates, that coaches, for everything else to make it come together and make it work, is that much more powerful than just winning that MVP because there's no one else that can share it with you. Like, yeah, you can have guys that say many you guys help me win this Player of the Year and you help me win this MVP aboard. That's great, but it's not impacting them the same. They're not going to a super Bowl with their family one day when they have kids and say, yes, son, I remember when we came here and we won, Like that's where this ring comes from. They're not sharing in that, like those guys who are on Camp's team that year don't have a ring that they're showing and saying, yeah, remember when Cam will that MVP, Like, here's my MVP ring from you know, saying so. I think the difference is and this is where I think there's a difference in how people talk about leadership.
Leadership.
Some people would just say if it's doing the right thing right saying doing the right thing, But there's an element of accountability too. It's being the type of person that's gonna be able to bring people along with you in that sixth and hold them accountable for doing their job too. Like doing your job is just not enough. I know it's a phrase that people throw around a lot, but I think the best teams have players who forced guys to come along with them and then that there's kind of shared success in those championships. But if you're doing your job the best your ability and you're doing it so high that you win MVP, great, But ultimately, like I don't think there's many players or many guys, let's just put it this way, who've won MVP that wouldn't trade that for a Super Bowl or for another Super Bowl, they had one. I'll just put it that way. That's a very unique take. And I think some people probably look back at that at that play in the Super Bowl when there was the fumble and he kind of didn't really go for it, and they're like, well, yeah, kind of makes sense.
I don't know.
I don't get that deep with it in terms of him not going for the fumble. I mean, I didn't like that you didn't go for it, But that man did what I felt was like humanly possible to win for that team, especially the things he accomplished that year.
I just I just look at it again.
If I am going to be the best teammate, I've got to get myself up in the morning. That starts with me. I have to get myself out of the bed. I gotta get myself to the facility. That starts with me. I have to put in the work in the time to study the plays and know the playbook and know what I need to do.
That starts and ends with me.
The only way we can be great together and when is if all the individuals on the team, knowing that they're individuals, bring the best them. You got to bring the best you. You got to be the best you that you can possibly be. And I if you're going to be measured and judged in a way where they say, all right, you were the best of the best, of being measured to the standard of what is the best that comes to the table in terms of becoming an MVP, I just I again, I don't think that there should be an either or for one, I know it was an either or question. I don't think that you should have to give away the idea or the understanding that being the best you that you can be and being recognized for that, I feel like that's ultimately going to lead to all those things you just explained. Like for me, I don't like we never won a national title in college. I'm super close with my teammates. We're super tight.
I made it.
Into the Pro I mean into the College Hall of Fame, and even when I went to the Pro Bowls and in the league, like we're all going, like, let's go linebackers, We're going whatever whatever it may be, We're going. I know for certain that it's my effort and my accountability to my teammates that's going to get me up every morning, that's going to have me run in that wind sprint as hard as I possibly can. It's not to get the personal award. It's to be the best teammate that I can possibly be because I want us to win. If that leads to me becoming a pro bowler, if it leads to me being a Defensive Player of the Year or anything like that, where I get an award that recognizes my effort, then I'm not one again.
I'm not.
I'm not going to sit here and say I would want the championship. But at the end of the day, if if I got a personal award because of my effort, my effort being being seen and being being you know, recognized that way, I'm not going to have a problem with it either. So for him to say he'd rather have it, I don't have a problem. I don't have an issue with his his mind or his reasoning behind wanting it. One of the examples he gave were quarterbacks, you know, like Nick Foles, quarterbacks like Trend Dilfer, you know, And there was another one. Brad Johnson was the other quarterback that he gave, like, would I rather, you know, trade my career with them? They won super Bowls when never won an MVP, And I'm curious would he feel the same trading a career with Matt Stafford because staff never won an MVP, but he's got a Super Bowl Or Drew Brees never.
Won an MVP.
Thosebacks than the ones he gave a.
But my point would be they don't have the MVP, So would you trade your career for theirs? Which is a bigger picture question. But I don't know how anybody and Cam Newton's fantastic, but I don't know how you could look at the career of Cam Newton and a Drew Brees or Matt Stafford and say he had a better run than they did. So in totality, I just I think this, And furthermore, if they win that Super Bowl in twenty sixteen, they beat Denver, Cam Newton's probably a Hall of Famer, right, I mean, he's got He's got both with him.
It's just kind of an interesting retrospective on it, you know what I wonder.
I wonder if his perspective too comes from like do you remember at Auburn they won the national championship, he won the Heisman Trophy and I think he played on that team that you can go back and research this, but they didn't have many draft picks. They might have had like one or two, maybe three on the team. And it was one of those championships, some one of those runs where you're like, this guy was so dominant that he was superman, he was the entire team, and so like there's elements of like he's kind of been that right where he won that Player of the Year, where he won that national championship and displayed all of that, and so again maybe that impacts his perspective of when he got in the NFL. And I think, and the hard thing is when you get in the NFL, is even as good as he was in that MVP season, it still wasn't enough to be able to win a championship. And I think if had he phrased it and said, like, here's the tough thing about answering that question, is.
Where you're going is correct? If you're going on, we had an amazing team.
But the problem is, even at my best, I wasn't lucky enough to be in an organization or a part of a team that we had enough to be able to win it all. And that's the reality for I think a lot of guys, I mean think about the Green Bay Packers teams. There are Rogers has been the MVP, and they make a run, but they get you know, they get stop by the San Francisco forty nine ers. You know, there's there's those years where it's like, despite the fact of like him play at the high level, it's still not enough. And I think that's more of the perspective that I thought he was going to lean into when he answered it that yeah, I wouldn't trade it because I feel like from my standpoint, like I've been there as the best player and won a championship, and I realized at the next level that it's not enough to be even the best in the league. You still have to have peace and help around you. And so I think, again that's why I go back to what I initially said, it's the ultimate team sport, and I think being able to share more in that and you go back to Penn State all the time, Yeah, I mean, and you were the defensive player of the year, like when you finished there, like you were that guy.
But the difference is.
If you wouldn't I would trade it a hundred times, if one hundred times, to have had it exactly.
Because because you know what they'd be saying hendon to twenty twenty five, like, hey, James Franklin, Penn State. They just got Jim Knowles, they got Christian Aller coming back, the running backs are back the hole. Everyone besides the number one overall pick, probably an Abdiel Carter is coming back to try to go all into one, and it'd be the first time since LeVar Arrington was here win won one. Like that's what they'd be said. Every time you'd go back, they'd remind you of that. And so that's I don't know. Again I would have answered it differently, But I also think the way he went about answering it didn't probably fully portray like the difficulty of to just winning games in the NFL and getting the playoffs and winning a Super Bowl. And I think it more talks about too, like what the Chiefs are attempting to do is ridiculous. I mean, really, what Patrick Mahomes and this team and Andy Ry have done since he started and taken over is ridiculous.
To that much sustained.
Success where all you know is that minimum the AFC Championship game, if not what five or six you said in the Super Bowl.
Yeah, yeah, for what is worth. If the Carolina Panthers were on the trajectory that the Chiefs are on right now, Cam Newton would have been the catalyst of it. Like you guys said, whether we say Drew Brees or not, you know, in terms of MVP or whatever it may be, Drew Brees was the catalyst of how good that that Saints team was. Then you're going to be recognized that way, even if you won a Super Bowl or you did it. If they're on that trajectory, Cam Newton would have been spoken of and in the same terms that we're speaking of Patrick Mahomes. So either with the MVP award or without it, he would have been spoken up in the same exact manner, in the same exact manner. So, I mean, you got the award, and you get to stand on the fact that you had the award. But at the end of the day, I would I would rather be able to stand there with knowing that I was a key part of it. I'm one of the key reasons why we won it all. But I would rather that Cam Newton's numbers at Auburn that year just looking at him again, oh stagger like over twenty eight hundred yards passing thirty touchdowns. Brou He's a unicorn.
Another almost fifteen hundred yards rushing and twenty touchdowns. The guy had fifty one touchdowns. That year was the greatest season.
It was the greatest single season in college football history until Joe Burrows season for LSU.
Believable. That's the reality is.
He had the greatest single season ever in college football history. And people can challenge that all they want. When you think of who is playing around him, what they went through in the SEC to win it, and how dominant he was. It was the greatest single season ever in college football history until Burrow, who I think unseated him, and mostly because of the path that they went on. But even his stats were ungodly. I'm just ridiculous what he did. Animals In twenty.
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It's a herd Here on Fox Sports Radio, LeVar Arrington, Brady Quinn, Jonas Knox with you. So coming up in a little over fifteen minutes from now, we are going to tell you about how somebody's got a a specific rooting interest in this Super Bowl that may be different from the past. We will get into that for you. It's a superstar involved in the game. That'll be yours here on FSR. We're also going to catch up here in just a couple of moments from now with Mike Renner, a golden domer if I'm not mistaken, Ain't that right, Brady Quinn, big time golden domer there from CBS Sports. That's NFL and draft analyst, that's right. Who was there at the recess? Yeah, I'm curious they hand out like a free recisame Mike, thanks for joining us here. How many bags of Reese's pieces did you go home with?
I didn't get any of this year. I actually they usually have him in the hotel and I didn't go to the team hotel where they're all stank, so none for me, thankfully.
I'm trying to So you didn't you didn't do your job, Mike, Is that what you're saying.
I'm Ryan, Ryan Wilson rich s Field over here at TVs. They were the ones interviewing the players that I was getting to sleep in there.
All right, So let me ask you this before we get into this specifics player upon player position group that you've been the most impressed with thus far.
That's a good question. I think the tight ends down there in Mobile, there's probably a handful of guys that I see going on Day two of that class, maybe as much as four that were down there, Which is I mean for a tight end class down seat, Well, that's a lot. So I mean there are other classes that are going to have first rounders, Like it was a pretty deep defensive line class as well. There's probably gonna be a handful of guys go in the Round one by that class, But tight ends, like I think this is a year where you can find a lot of starters on Day two of the draft.
Mike, I want to ask you about the quarterback class.
There's been a lot of talk of maybe some teams looking at twenty twenty six, and especially coming off of that twenty twenty four class, we had so many guys go in the top what twelve or whatever it was. How would you rate this year's class and how would you order these guys?
Yeah, I mean, if he's compared to last year, there's at least four guys that I would put above anyone in this class. It's probably you talked to other people, there may be as many as six. Like all six of the first rounders last year they have higher grades on than anyone in this class. So from that perspective, its weak. But then like you look at Lash's class and all six kind of look good, right, Like there's no none of the first rounder is really crashed and burned out of the gate, So maybe that's not the worst thing in the world. So it's not super deep to me. It's a three man class in my opinion. It's cam Ward, it's Shador Standers, and it's Jackson dark I was talking to Rick Spielman yesterday, former GM Minnesota Viking. He said he thinks Jackson Dart's going to be a first rounder after his week in Mobile. Now, I'm not willing to go that far, but I do think he's the most intriguing option if I'm taking a swing somewhere on day two in this quarterback class, after those three, everyone else is like, I see just back up or intriguing project that you're gonna have to wait three or four years for them to ever come along. So I think it's a real thin class and lacking of top end talent, but it's not as bad as twenty twenty two, right where Kerdye Pickett that class whereas only one first rounder, it's not completely breast of talent, but it's definitely a down year at the position.
Does Dark remind you of bo Nix a little bit? That's kind of what I see watching. That's why I think he will go end up going in the first round.
A little I mean body type wise, arm wise, the way they throw. I think there's a lot of comparisons to be made there. I thought Bow was just a much quicker processor with Dart, I wasn't a huge fan coming into this year. You watch the ole Miss offense and it is comical what Lane Kiffin's doing there. From like a NFL projectable standpoint, it's not even like half field greed. It's like one man Reyes. They're just reading like a defender and he's making a decision off of that, which that's fine, but you don't really know what that guy's going to look like in the NFL. So I thought that's why his Senior Bowl is so big from and him looking like the best quarterback down there. That's why you're getting you know, Rich Spielman saying he wouldn't be surprised if he goes in the first round. But I thought ball placement was much much better this year. And I think he's a little bit underrated of an athlete. Uh you know, obviously he's white, so that's always going to be an underrated trait for but.
Wow, that coming well, he's correct, He isn't lying. Uh huh, Mike, let me let me ask you this. You just sat there and you said, improved his draft status this week. I wonder, and knowing that obviously the the combines and personal workouts will come come in you know, later weeks, does this when when when you see them, you know, participate, How important is it because you know guys are opting out of playing in the Senior Bowls based upon you know, going deep into the playoffs. Do you lose any traction by not participating on the even Shador he's not participating in the senior Boys. He's there, but he's not participating. Do you see this playing any type of role in maybe not helping or hurting their their chances of improving their draft stock going into the draft.
I think it's very important for specific players. So for Dark specifically, obviously, question mark is that offense that ole miss What does he look like in a pro style offense doing what he's going to be doing in the NFL? And so he goes down the Seeder Bowl and all of a sudden, that's what he's dropped into and has to operate in that. So then looking good in a completely different offense that's big for his stock. Now with Shadura, you know, he's played four years of football, I don't think that's the question mark with him, is how he's going to operate, you know, an NFL caliber offense with what he did at Colorado, So I don't think it's as important for him. But then you have other guys like Gray's Abel, who's like a North Dakota State offensive lineman who's switching from tackle to guard or center in the NFL. This is huge for him because he's never played in tier off of the line before, he's never played NFL caliber talent before. That guy made himself a ton of money this week with his performance on the football field. But other guys who are like already first rounders, already top fifteen picks, played in the SEC. Maybe you talk about some of these Ohio State guides that have played the top competition. It's meaningless for those guys, you know them, going to Senior Bowl is really just to get exposure to coaches and GMS and interviews that they wouldn't otherwise get. So it's really case by case basis. But basically for guys who need something, need a box to tick that they haven't necessarily ticked on their collegiate film.
Right, Mike Greenner.
Joining us here on the Herd here on Fox Sports Radio, CBS Sports, NFL and Draft analysts. He is at the Senior Bowl there and mobile. We've talked a lot about obviously, you know, the age of the players coming out of college with you know, the red shirts and extra years and COVID years and all that stuff, they get older and older. Have you noticed in talking with people there any issues or concerns about the development of some of these players as far as transferring from school to school, being able to opt out and go from place to place. There been a disconnect from when they arrive in Alabama getting ready for the draft.
Yeah, I know the guys who are like starting their career at Georgia then go into USC and then to Penn State. Those guys have like a red flag. Those are the ones that scouts are like, Okay, we got do some homework on this guy. No one likes that guy. But I do think from a just a developmental standpoint, it's good that you get guys from lower levels of collegiate football. They get to now play in the SEC after two years improving themselves. Like, you get a lot of guys who you know, you're looking at guys in this class who you know, started at like a Charlotte and then they transferred up and now they're playing Agains the best competition. So I think it's helpful for a lot of those. It's more helpful than not. But it definitely it kind of exposes the red flag guys before they get to the NFL. The guys who are just bouncing in the wins taking whoever is the highest bidder for three straight years. Those are guys who don't necessarily want on your football team. So I think actually is helping evaluations guys staying longer, really getting to know who they are, and getting to develop at the competition level that they should be developing at before they have to make that big lead to the NFL. So, if anything, I do think for an NFL evaluators, these are uh you know, you're actually getting better evalves on these guys because of nil and transfer portal being a thing.
Mike, I'm not sure if you know this. We actually have Pete Prisco on for a weekly on our show, and for folks who out there don't know, you get to work with Pete Prisco. So my first question is, how would you describe Pete Prisco.
Stout Portly, not physical.
I'm not asking for your scouting impression of his bills. Personality, character, personality.
I'm going arm leanks first. I'm going body just out of me. But after that, I mean, he's so a lot of people think he's angry, and he's definitely like a little angry, but he's more just like he is unafraid to say his feelings, and sometimes his feelings trend negatively, but he's gonna back down from a challenge and Oka more than happy to face it.
So yeah, that's okay.
So here's what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna ask you a question and I want you to answer like Pete Prisco, who has been the worst player, who had the worst week at the Senior Pop this week that you're like, my god, that was awful.
Oh gosh, Okay. There is a quarterback from Canada named Taylor Elgizma hadn't watched him going in, but like, I can't remember what school he was from exactly, but the guy just was not ready for the seenable competition. Unfortunately, he had himself a pretty tough week try. I think the cornerback group down there too, I don't want to name too many names.
Her Shallow had a rough time.
Also. I didn't get to see Shallow at the seabol. He actually wasn't on the field when I was there at the Tribe Book. Excuse me what he was there? So I didn't get to see him there. But uh yeah, the wide receiver dB one on ones are not really set up for corners to look good and this wasn't a great wide receiver class, so there weren't a lot of corners to write home about. Unfortunately, Seeable, you named.
One Canadian guy, you can't name one other like mainstream guy that you're like, he was projected high, but he didn't have.
A great week.
Okay.
Dion Walker, the Kentucky defensive tackle who he's huge, right six foot he's the tallest defensive tackle, like since they started recording that stuff in the database in two thousand six seven and a quarter.
He's got a weird build. He couldn't even fill out his pants because I don't think they make camp for that long. But then also because like he has like these spindly legs, unfortunately for a guy that side, so he's really top heavy. It's like this refrigerator on top of uh stool two stool pegs. He can't play low enough on the interior. So he had refs that are good on the edge, like going up against tackles. But I just struggle to see what he's gonna do at the NFL level. That the guy that he can move so well, i'd consider he's still twenty years old. I consider ask him if you want to play off that's that's a bill that could play it off of staff. So that's just going to struggle to hold up against double teams in the NFL, against like guards and centers.
Mike, do you have a before we let you go? Do you have like a sneaky one to look out for somebody that you think, based upon what you've watched, could be, uh maybe a second, third, fourth round pick that could be a potential star in the NFL. Somebody that's your favorite.
I love is David Walker from Central Arkansas. He's six foot to sixty seven and he's an edge rusher who if you tried once he goes to the bull rush. I didn't see a single person even come close stopping him this week. I mean that he said six foot six foot sixty built like I mean, the guy over the explosive off the line of scrimmage and just plays with a tenacity that I mean. I guess that he dumped bull rush five times in the one on ones and like every single time the tackle was running backwards. He's just the guy that that's no one you talk to any off tackle around the NFL. Those are the guys they do not want to block. The guys who literally you cannot get leverage on them if you tried because they're built so low to the earth. So he's the guy that you know central Arkansas. The tape was insane, but it's also low level competition. So see him do it against guys who will play in the NFL next year. Yeah, I felt pretty good about that.
He blew up that organ tackle, right, was that one of the highlights that went around social media?
No, that was Mike Green the Marshal used to be. He's going to be. He may be very well the highest drafted guy there. He had a great week in the two days that he was there.
Sure it is, Uh, Mike Renner, good stuff, man, Thanks so much for doing it. Also your breakdown and the specs on p prisk go. We can't wait to play that for him at the super Bowl New Orleans next week. So there he is, Mike.
What do you call bortleyt Yeah, I mean he's in scout mode there. It is the herd.
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Who all right, Saiquon Barkley, he's getting ready to play in the Super Bowl for the first time in his career. Well not for the egos though, because regarding the last time they were in the Super Bowl, they were taking on the Chiefs of course, And this is what Saquon Barkley had to say about that matchup. Of course I was rooting against the Eagles. They had just knocked this out of the playoffs. There was no part of me that wanted the Eagles to win that game. Well, of course, two years later, two playoff wins over two thousand yards, things are much different now for Saquon Barkley. Yeah, I mean he's a root for them now. Like Sakwana, you have a little bit of an edge. You just start gambling on the game, you know what I mean, Like, let's let's spiceen this up a little bit here, I mean, do something, you know, take take a better oppression. Would you say you're gonna go for more than one hundred and twenty two rushing?
Right?
And by the way, is there a path to victory for Philadelphia if Saquon doesn't go off in that game? It feels like he's kind of the lynchpin to that entire team per usual. And if he doesn't have a big day, they got no, they got no opportunities unless Jalen hurts all of a sudden starts throw in a downfield like he has an all year long.
Saying out of the straight jacket, Yeah, Okay, yeah, interesting.
I guess so, I would say it feels unlikely. I mean, obviously we know how talented and aj Brown is and even Demanta Smith, which sort of feels like an afterthought at times, but just so much of what they've done this year has been just built through. Is Saquon going for over one hundred yards or not? I have a hard time. I have a hard time seeing that play out that way. Will Joe Shane watch the Super Bowl? Do you think do you think he's gonna Actually, how about this. Let's say Saquon does go off in the Super Bowl. Do you want to be in the room if Joe Shane is watching the Super Bowl? Oh?
God, hell?
Do you fire your GM in New York if they went to Super Bowl and say no, Actually, I'd rather want to be where John Mary is.
Oh yeah, that's where you want. That's the room you want to be in, especially at bedtime.
Let's see how long it take Jonas he said he'd have a hard time sleeping. Broh, Yeah, relax, relax.
I wrap up with this.
Panthers quarterback Bryce Young he had a rocky second season, obviously gotten benched at one point during the year, but did bounce back in a big way. End of the game, end of the season three game stretch, seven touchdowns, no picks, passer rating over one eleven. Well, his head coach, Dave Knalis, here's what he had to say about Young. I just got to give him all the credit handling it the way that he did, with the maturity and attacking it and really positioning himself for the next opportunity, not knowing when that would come, really taking on that challenge and finding joy and playing the game again. So Bryce Young sort of finding his footing towards the end of last season. You know, justin Herbert got an opportunity to play because Tyrod Taylor got stabbed by the team trainer.
Yes.
Yeah, If Andy Dalton doesn't get in that car accident, Bryce Young maybe never gets on the field again for Carolina.
Sorry to take way of looking at it.
I'm just saying credit for how well he played. I mean, he saved his great, He was awesome versus Atlanta to finish the season, his best game as a pro. Hopefully that'll give him some patience with him in the year three to get another shot.
Yeah, jez A car Act, good job, Hey, least deal you know stabbed you huh?
You know, LeVar, I don't like your puncture. Would have been better, but stabbed?
Would you say shift? That's that's just as bad as stabbed. Let's get away from that.
Whoa, hey, you know what, Hey, Lvar, we don't really appreciate your tone today.
To be honest with you, Okay, you know what, don't do it, you know what?
Find it. I'll lead if you don't do if you don't want me to be on the show, I'll leave.
A would say you, Alvar, Hey, you know what
