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It is a Tuesday, a lot to talk about live in Los Angeles. It's The Herd. Wherever you may be and however you may be listening. Thanks for making us part of your dad. We're thinking about this coming in in what we do for a living. Whenever there's like a big trade or like the NFL Draft, everybody's always Jmax saying this team won the trade, this team lost. And the biggest trade in recent memory is Luca to the Lakers for Ad.

It is a Tuesday, a lot to talk about live in Los Angeles. It's The Herd. Wherever you may be and however you may be listening. Thanks for making us part of your dad. We're thinking about this coming in in what we do for a living. Whenever there's like a big trade or like the NFL Draft, everybody's always Jmax saying this team won the trade, this team lost. And the biggest trade in recent memory is Luca to the Lakers for Ad.

And there's a feeling is.

And there's a feeling is.

Dallas will be terrible and the Lakers will win several titles.

Dallas will be terrible and the Lakers will win several titles.

But they would not have traded Luca.

But they would not have traded Luca.

If he was in great shape and was an unbelievable defender, well then he'd be Lebron.

If he was in great shape and was an unbelievable defender, well then he'd be Lebron.

You wouldn't trade him.

You wouldn't trade him.

They traded him for a reason because they saw holes in his game, which, by the way, he'd missed the last two camps. He had multiple injuries. So here's what's interesting. When Lebron leaves, they comes back and he's not at one hundred percent, Lakers are trash. That's funny because Lebron, even way past his prime. Lebron has won without AD, has won without Austin Rivers, and one without Luca, one with bad coaches. But Luca, without Lebron or Lebron at one hundred percent, Lakers get throttled by bad teams. Why is that? That's why Dallas let him go? And I wouldn't have but this idea that Luca was like Lebron, elite defender, elite leader, elite offensive player, elevated, everybody build a franchise around him, no flaws. That's not what Luca is, and you're seeing it here is Luca without Lebron, they've lost seven of ten. Or Luca now with Lebron not quite in game shape, not quite at one hundred percent, they're getting throttled by bad teams. And this has always been my several year argument. If your company doesn't re sign you, even if you're talented, they see a hole in your game. This is why I argued for years Carmelo Anthony's a great all time player, Hall of Famer, didn't elevate teammates, didn't play defense. Luca is a much better version of Carmelo. By the way, Carmelo and Dominique, Wilkins and Luca great scores. None of them defend at that level. Kobe and MJ are great scores. They had a different mindset, and you're gonna get points with Luca defense. Forget about it elevating everybody. He'll elevate some players, he'll take the ball away from others. Lebron's also a great on court coach and leaders. Talking is often barking at refs or trash talking, and by the way, that's part of basketball's culture. It doesn't bother me. But Lebron talking and Luca talking are two different things. I mean, JJ Reddick has complained multiple times, Yeah, we don't communicate when Lebron's out. Well, isn't that where Lucas should step in. Luca's game is much more individualists, you know, he is much more an individual star, more of a lead singer in a band who can occasionally step back, you know, and and let the bass player have his moment, but he's a lead singer. Lebron's always been more magic than Michael or Kobe. He's much more an orchestra leader, elevating everybody, much more magic, stepping back, making sure there's a rhythm and spacing. Lebron isn't a trash talker Luca is. Lebron doesn't spend a lot of time barking at refs Luca does. Lebron moves furiously without the ball at time, Luca doesn't. Lebron defends Luca has very little interest, more of a hobby than a vocation.

They traded him for a reason because they saw holes in his game, which, by the way, he'd missed the last two camps. He had multiple injuries. So here's what's interesting. When Lebron leaves, they comes back and he's not at one hundred percent, Lakers are trash. That's funny because Lebron, even way past his prime. Lebron has won without AD, has won without Austin Rivers, and one without Luca, one with bad coaches. But Luca, without Lebron or Lebron at one hundred percent, Lakers get throttled by bad teams. Why is that? That's why Dallas let him go? And I wouldn't have but this idea that Luca was like Lebron, elite defender, elite leader, elite offensive player, elevated, everybody build a franchise around him, no flaws. That's not what Luca is, and you're seeing it here is Luca without Lebron, they've lost seven of ten. Or Luca now with Lebron not quite in game shape, not quite at one hundred percent, they're getting throttled by bad teams. And this has always been my several year argument. If your company doesn't re sign you, even if you're talented, they see a hole in your game. This is why I argued for years Carmelo Anthony's a great all time player, Hall of Famer, didn't elevate teammates, didn't play defense. Luca is a much better version of Carmelo. By the way, Carmelo and Dominique, Wilkins and Luca great scores. None of them defend at that level. Kobe and MJ are great scores. They had a different mindset, and you're gonna get points with Luca defense. Forget about it elevating everybody. He'll elevate some players, he'll take the ball away from others. Lebron's also a great on court coach and leaders. Talking is often barking at refs or trash talking, and by the way, that's part of basketball's culture. It doesn't bother me. But Lebron talking and Luca talking are two different things. I mean, JJ Reddick has complained multiple times, Yeah, we don't communicate when Lebron's out. Well, isn't that where Lucas should step in. Luca's game is much more individualists, you know, he is much more an individual star, more of a lead singer in a band who can occasionally step back, you know, and and let the bass player have his moment, but he's a lead singer. Lebron's always been more magic than Michael or Kobe. He's much more an orchestra leader, elevating everybody, much more magic, stepping back, making sure there's a rhythm and spacing. Lebron isn't a trash talker Luca is. Lebron doesn't spend a lot of time barking at refs Luca does. Lebron moves furiously without the ball at time, Luca doesn't. Lebron defends Luca has very little interest, more of a hobby than a vocation.

And that is not to say Lucas not great.

And that is not to say Lucas not great.

But if you're at a company and they're like, yeah, we're gonna we're gonna move on, it's not always the company was wrong. Again, I'll make this argument. Charles Barklay's made it. When Dallas is totally healthy, probably next year they have a chance to get to the finals a d I mean, Kyrie, even Max Christie can play a center rotation the kid out of Duke the minute. Lebron's not around the minute. Lebron's not at one hundred percent. What's JJ Reddick complain about? We don't communicate. We don't rotate as well well they do when Lebron's there and Luca's not. And this is the difference. Maybe this is just the difference between like MJ and Barkley. You know, one was always in great shape. One defended. They both scored a lot of points. But there is a gap between all time Lebron and all time Luca. Don't kid yourself. There is a major gap. And they've lost three of they've won three of ten, and this is not one hundred percent Lebron. So again, the way we do it in sports, this team got nothing in return, and this team got the greatest player of all time.

But if you're at a company and they're like, yeah, we're gonna we're gonna move on, it's not always the company was wrong. Again, I'll make this argument. Charles Barklay's made it. When Dallas is totally healthy, probably next year they have a chance to get to the finals a d I mean, Kyrie, even Max Christie can play a center rotation the kid out of Duke the minute. Lebron's not around the minute. Lebron's not at one hundred percent. What's JJ Reddick complain about? We don't communicate. We don't rotate as well well they do when Lebron's there and Luca's not. And this is the difference. Maybe this is just the difference between like MJ and Barkley. You know, one was always in great shape. One defended. They both scored a lot of points. But there is a gap between all time Lebron and all time Luca. Don't kid yourself. There is a major gap. And they've lost three of they've won three of ten, and this is not one hundred percent Lebron. So again, the way we do it in sports, this team got nothing in return, and this team got the greatest player of all time.

But it is interesting.

But it is interesting.

In the last ten games, seven no Lebron, and now you're getting you know, a guy who missed a couple of weeks. He's acknowledging he's not quite right defensively, not quite right cardio wise. They're not very good. And here's JJ Reddick after losing to Orlando last night. I don't know, we just like we look tired, and I don't know what contributes to that. That happens periodically throughout a season where the group gets tired.

In the last ten games, seven no Lebron, and now you're getting you know, a guy who missed a couple of weeks. He's acknowledging he's not quite right defensively, not quite right cardio wise. They're not very good. And here's JJ Reddick after losing to Orlando last night. I don't know, we just like we look tired, and I don't know what contributes to that. That happens periodically throughout a season where the group gets tired.

That's what it feels like right now.

That's what it feels like right now.

No, when they don't look tired is when Lebron is playing, not injured one hundred percent. You never hear that the other team looks flat, doesn't communicate looks tired. When Lebron's not at one hundred percent and the Lakers look tired and can't beat Orlando. It's funny how that works, isn't it. So this is something I talked about yesterday on the show, and I don't think it's a conspiracy theory. It is easy right now to rip Aaron Rodgers. What is he making people wait for? So yesterday I brought this up on the show, is that I think Aaron's too smart to look at Pittsburgh and go this is perfect. He flew there to the Steelers and he didn't leave with a contract. Now he may sign by the end of this rant, but he didn't sign for the great Pittsburgh Steelers. And Albert Breer had a story today that Aaron Rodgers is telling friends. We talked about this yesterday. He's looking for a better call culture. He looked at Green Bay and realizes not only a good culture, but an offensive culture.

No, when they don't look tired is when Lebron is playing, not injured one hundred percent. You never hear that the other team looks flat, doesn't communicate looks tired. When Lebron's not at one hundred percent and the Lakers look tired and can't beat Orlando. It's funny how that works, isn't it. So this is something I talked about yesterday on the show, and I don't think it's a conspiracy theory. It is easy right now to rip Aaron Rodgers. What is he making people wait for? So yesterday I brought this up on the show, is that I think Aaron's too smart to look at Pittsburgh and go this is perfect. He flew there to the Steelers and he didn't leave with a contract. Now he may sign by the end of this rant, but he didn't sign for the great Pittsburgh Steelers. And Albert Breer had a story today that Aaron Rodgers is telling friends. We talked about this yesterday. He's looking for a better call culture. He looked at Green Bay and realizes not only a good culture, but an offensive culture.

And this is what I said.

And this is what I said.

I think Aaron Rodgers is sitting around for a couple of weeks, and I think he's right waiting on the Niners Brock party. I don't think the Niners are going to pay Brock pretty fifty nine million a year, and that, according to his agent, is what he wants. And I can't believe I'm saying this, but Aaron needs to go in another darkness retreat. Aaron needs to hide, avoid commitment, plan an excursion. Call your travel agent if people use those anymore. The Steelers as fools goal Tomlin can't figure out the offense. It's been seven years, forget about it, and fifty nine.

I think Aaron Rodgers is sitting around for a couple of weeks, and I think he's right waiting on the Niners Brock party. I don't think the Niners are going to pay Brock pretty fifty nine million a year, and that, according to his agent, is what he wants. And I can't believe I'm saying this, but Aaron needs to go in another darkness retreat. Aaron needs to hide, avoid commitment, plan an excursion. Call your travel agent if people use those anymore. The Steelers as fools goal Tomlin can't figure out the offense. It's been seven years, forget about it, and fifty nine.

Listen to this.

Listen to this.

It was sixty sixty year before fifty nine quarterbacks played last year. There will be opportunities. You could argue Kirk Cousins should have waited last year until after the draft and not gone to Atlanta. But he signed in March and the Atlanta draft a quarterback. Is it the worst thing in the world for Aaron to not sign wait on the draft, see how the dominoes fall. And somebody could go, guys, we didn't get a quarterback. We're in trouble here now. Now, I think you can fairly say, and this isn't really a criticism of farv and Aaron Rodgers. I mean, green Bay's pretty small and sleepy. Is that maybe they didn't appreciate it. Grass is greener, you know, friendly media, good organization. That's not a real criticist. I could see somebody playing for fifteen years in Green Bay and thinking, man, I'm kind of jealous of those New York, La San Francisco, you know, big city teams.

It was sixty sixty year before fifty nine quarterbacks played last year. There will be opportunities. You could argue Kirk Cousins should have waited last year until after the draft and not gone to Atlanta. But he signed in March and the Atlanta draft a quarterback. Is it the worst thing in the world for Aaron to not sign wait on the draft, see how the dominoes fall. And somebody could go, guys, we didn't get a quarterback. We're in trouble here now. Now, I think you can fairly say, and this isn't really a criticism of farv and Aaron Rodgers. I mean, green Bay's pretty small and sleepy. Is that maybe they didn't appreciate it. Grass is greener, you know, friendly media, good organization. That's not a real criticist. I could see somebody playing for fifteen years in Green Bay and thinking, man, I'm kind of jealous of those New York, La San Francisco, you know, big city teams.

I get that.

I get that.

That's not a criticism, but I'm not given brought pretty fifty eight million dollars. In one of the reasons, I've said this before on the show, if you wonder if you're making a great move, you could be a TV executive. You could be an NFL general manager. If you are about to make a big move, what does your rival think? And you know who would be okay with Purty getting sick tea million a year. Sean McVay, he'd be really okay with that, with his young defense, little Brock Purty, not a big arm Brock party. Sean McVay would be just fine having Matt Stafford for two more years. And they're locked in on a sixty million dollar a year Brock Purty deal. So it's you know, I just look at.

That's not a criticism, but I'm not given brought pretty fifty eight million dollars. In one of the reasons, I've said this before on the show, if you wonder if you're making a great move, you could be a TV executive. You could be an NFL general manager. If you are about to make a big move, what does your rival think? And you know who would be okay with Purty getting sick tea million a year. Sean McVay, he'd be really okay with that, with his young defense, little Brock Purty, not a big arm Brock party. Sean McVay would be just fine having Matt Stafford for two more years. And they're locked in on a sixty million dollar a year Brock Purty deal. So it's you know, I just look at.

This whole thing.

This whole thing.

Is that Aaron multiple reports said he really wanted the Vikings offer why because of Kevin O'Connell. It wasn't the receiver, it was Kevin O'Connell offensive coach Aaron last year, in his last ten starts, do you realize this, with arguably the worst coaching staff in the league, certainly the worst offensive coaching staff in the league and a mediocre O line had more touchdown passes in a higher passer rating than Brock Purty with Kyle Shanahan. I honestly think, and again, he could sign with Pittchburg today.

Is that Aaron multiple reports said he really wanted the Vikings offer why because of Kevin O'Connell. It wasn't the receiver, it was Kevin O'Connell offensive coach Aaron last year, in his last ten starts, do you realize this, with arguably the worst coaching staff in the league, certainly the worst offensive coaching staff in the league and a mediocre O line had more touchdown passes in a higher passer rating than Brock Purty with Kyle Shanahan. I honestly think, and again, he could sign with Pittchburg today.

I know you don't have to like Aaron.

I know you don't have to like Aaron.

You can be resentful about his vaccine status and is whatever, but he's not a dummy. And when you see those pictures in Malibu when he's listening to stuff, I think he's sitting there thinking Minnesota would have been great. I know the division, I love the coach, I love their weapons. O line got upgraded significantly in Minnesota in the offseason. I think he looks at Pittsburgh and so much of it sounds good. Steelers defense Mike Tomlin battle line lost their left tackle two high maintenance wide receivers spend more money on defense than anybody in the league. Is that really a great fitnes? Does Aaron feel like a Pittsburgh guy. He loves Malibu and he loves New York and if the Giants were humming, he'd probably sign there. But this Albert Breer story that Aaron is talking to people like he wants the organization is key, not just the personnel. And I think once Minnesota said no, thanks, San Francisco's something to keep your eye on again. Kirk Cousins signed in March. He would not have signed with Atlanta in April late April after the Panics, they.

You can be resentful about his vaccine status and is whatever, but he's not a dummy. And when you see those pictures in Malibu when he's listening to stuff, I think he's sitting there thinking Minnesota would have been great. I know the division, I love the coach, I love their weapons. O line got upgraded significantly in Minnesota in the offseason. I think he looks at Pittsburgh and so much of it sounds good. Steelers defense Mike Tomlin battle line lost their left tackle two high maintenance wide receivers spend more money on defense than anybody in the league. Is that really a great fitnes? Does Aaron feel like a Pittsburgh guy. He loves Malibu and he loves New York and if the Giants were humming, he'd probably sign there. But this Albert Breer story that Aaron is talking to people like he wants the organization is key, not just the personnel. And I think once Minnesota said no, thanks, San Francisco's something to keep your eye on again. Kirk Cousins signed in March. He would not have signed with Atlanta in April late April after the Panics, they.

Wouldn't have signed there. Kirk Cousins now is looking.

Wouldn't have signed there. Kirk Cousins now is looking.

For a new team. Aaron could think, well, what if I signed blank? What if I signed with Pittsburgh and all of a sudden somebody falls and they end up picking a quarterback mid to late first round Jackson Dart.

For a new team. Aaron could think, well, what if I signed blank? What if I signed with Pittsburgh and all of a sudden somebody falls and they end up picking a quarterback mid to late first round Jackson Dart.

What am I doing here?

What am I doing here?

I'm just I'm saying I'm not advocating for in season ayahuasca, but another darkness retreat is not a terrible idea for Aaron Rodgers. Take a deep.

I'm just I'm saying I'm not advocating for in season ayahuasca, but another darkness retreat is not a terrible idea for Aaron Rodgers. Take a deep.

Breath, go hide for a while. So Jay Mac.

Breath, go hide for a while. So Jay Mac.

I'm still I don't mean to gloat, but fifteen of sixteen teams left in the tournament. I couldn't sleep last night. I just had I had tom Izzode, you know, in my sleep last night. Very excited.

I'm still I don't mean to gloat, but fifteen of sixteen teams left in the tournament. I couldn't sleep last night. I just had I had tom Izzode, you know, in my sleep last night. Very excited.

Then let's not get into that.

Then let's not get into that.

Yeah, yeah, let's go back to Aaron Rodgers. I got this sat from a Jets fan.

Yeah, yeah, let's go back to Aaron Rodgers. I got this sat from a Jets fan.

Are you ready?

Are you ready?

So Aaron Rodgers had the second most passing yards of any quarterback in the league in the fourth quarter. And know those weren't clutch comebacks, those who are basically the Jets getting buried after three quarters and Rogers just stat padding. So I know you're pumped up about those final ten games, but thirty one percent of his yards, thirty one percent of his touchdowns came in the fourth quarter.

So Aaron Rodgers had the second most passing yards of any quarterback in the league in the fourth quarter. And know those weren't clutch comebacks, those who are basically the Jets getting buried after three quarters and Rogers just stat padding. So I know you're pumped up about those final ten games, but thirty one percent of his yards, thirty one percent of his touchdowns came in the fourth quarter.

Well, you know, when you're old, those bones take a couple of quarters to warm up.

Well, you know, when you're old, those bones take a couple of quarters to warm up.

Yeah, excuse his excuses. I love it.

Yeah, excuse his excuses. I love it.

So there is it possible that there is an unsolvable problem and every league has one and all go over him coming up next? Every league has one unsolvable problem? Is that it's just baked in, embedded in the sport. Does the NBA have a tanking issue and there's nothing they can do about it, and I'll talk about that next. Save big and your water and energy bills. With a new Navvy and tankless water heater. They provide endless hot water spawl like comfort, makes it easy to go tankless. Visit Tankless made Simple dot com.

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All right, welcome back, Nick Wright. One hour from now, about fifty minutes actually from now. So there was a story. You know, there's been a lot of talk about load management in the NBA. Here's the good news. The young players like Sga Tatum and those guys like to play. They play every night. So a lot of the old school guys Lebron's gonna take some time off ad for injuries, can take time off, but the young guys mostly like to play. Janis will take time off. Bigger guy body falls apart a little bit. Dame can take night. Of young guys want to play. Tatum wants to play, Jalen Brown and those guys want to play. But there is the other issue that we talked about yesterday. Late season tanking. So I looked at the Pelicans and Sixers played last night. The starting lineups, they're embarrassing. I mean I would not watch them play if they were playing in my backyard. I mean, it was just like just a bunch of nonsense.

All right, welcome back, Nick Wright. One hour from now, about fifty minutes actually from now. So there was a story. You know, there's been a lot of talk about load management in the NBA. Here's the good news. The young players like Sga Tatum and those guys like to play. They play every night. So a lot of the old school guys Lebron's gonna take some time off ad for injuries, can take time off, but the young guys mostly like to play. Janis will take time off. Bigger guy body falls apart a little bit. Dame can take night. Of young guys want to play. Tatum wants to play, Jalen Brown and those guys want to play. But there is the other issue that we talked about yesterday. Late season tanking. So I looked at the Pelicans and Sixers played last night. The starting lineups, they're embarrassing. I mean I would not watch them play if they were playing in my backyard. I mean, it was just like just a bunch of nonsense.

And I think the.

And I think the.

League has tried to fix it by flattening the lottery odds, so tanking won't help you, so you can have the worst record and not get the number one pick. So the league has really tried to do this. I think load management David Stern solved it with fines, and I think a lot of these young guys want to play more games, so I think load management's bad. But I think you can tweak it.

League has tried to fix it by flattening the lottery odds, so tanking won't help you, so you can have the worst record and not get the number one pick. So the league has really tried to do this. I think load management David Stern solved it with fines, and I think a lot of these young guys want to play more games, so I think load management's bad. But I think you can tweak it.

They did this year. They tweaked it.

They did this year. They tweaked it.

You don't win certain awards unless you play over sixty five games. I think that's been helpful. I don't think you can solve the tanking thing.

You don't win certain awards unless you play over sixty five games. I think that's been helpful. I don't think you can solve the tanking thing.

And it's hurting the ratings.

And it's hurting the ratings.

There's no question the quality of basketball in the NBA march on from the non playoff teams is garbage. It's turning off fans and hurting the ratings. And maybe it's just this. Every sport has an unsolvable issue. The NFL has violence and players get hurt sometime seriously, and there's concussions and they've tried to end them. They can't totally hockey. Most of us didn't play, we didn't play as kids. We're not connected to it. It feels like Canada sport baseball. There's really no urgency because the season's so until like late September and October. And in the NBA in basketball, and we know this and it's the same and international soccer. If you get a superstar, it changes everything in one year. I mean, I was just watching Celtic City, the Bill Simmons Project. I watched two episodes last night. Episode three, loved it, and then episode four with Larry Bird.

There's no question the quality of basketball in the NBA march on from the non playoff teams is garbage. It's turning off fans and hurting the ratings. And maybe it's just this. Every sport has an unsolvable issue. The NFL has violence and players get hurt sometime seriously, and there's concussions and they've tried to end them. They can't totally hockey. Most of us didn't play, we didn't play as kids. We're not connected to it. It feels like Canada sport baseball. There's really no urgency because the season's so until like late September and October. And in the NBA in basketball, and we know this and it's the same and international soccer. If you get a superstar, it changes everything in one year. I mean, I was just watching Celtic City, the Bill Simmons Project. I watched two episodes last night. Episode three, loved it, and then episode four with Larry Bird.

They were bad. Larry Bird arrives, they were good.

They were bad. Larry Bird arrives, they were good.

It was that fast, and so I think it's also just part of the basketball culture, from AAU to college to the NBA. Go get the guy, you win immediately. And in basketball it's different because you can spot the next great basketball prodigy at fourteen years old. Go google when Wemby was first spotted, or Luca was spotted, or Lebron was first spotted. It's fourteen, fifteen years old. Cooper Flag two years ago, well, let's say one year ago, he was about sixteen, seventeen years old. Everybody's like, oh, that'll be the number one guy. That's not the case in football. Who are you tanking for? The three best players in the league are Mahomes, Josh Allen and arguably Lamar Jackson. They went to second tier football schools. They didn't get drafted number one. They had doubters all the way through. College football is more about even when you're great. We've seen Patrick Mahomes get blown out in two Super Bowls. Why left tackles bad Cleveland? When Lebron showed up. He was scoring twenty five to nine as a rookie for a horrible Cleveland franchise. He was still a star on both ends of the floor. So my take is Cooper Flag now is seventeen. People have known for the last year minimum, get Cooper Flag. That's the guy, and so teams can plan two and three years out. I mean there was Wemby talk three years ago. San Antonio's like suddenly started letting players go. Remember they didn't re sign like it.

It was that fast, and so I think it's also just part of the basketball culture, from AAU to college to the NBA. Go get the guy, you win immediately. And in basketball it's different because you can spot the next great basketball prodigy at fourteen years old. Go google when Wemby was first spotted, or Luca was spotted, or Lebron was first spotted. It's fourteen, fifteen years old. Cooper Flag two years ago, well, let's say one year ago, he was about sixteen, seventeen years old. Everybody's like, oh, that'll be the number one guy. That's not the case in football. Who are you tanking for? The three best players in the league are Mahomes, Josh Allen and arguably Lamar Jackson. They went to second tier football schools. They didn't get drafted number one. They had doubters all the way through. College football is more about even when you're great. We've seen Patrick Mahomes get blown out in two Super Bowls. Why left tackles bad Cleveland? When Lebron showed up. He was scoring twenty five to nine as a rookie for a horrible Cleveland franchise. He was still a star on both ends of the floor. So my take is Cooper Flag now is seventeen. People have known for the last year minimum, get Cooper Flag. That's the guy, and so teams can plan two and three years out. I mean there was Wemby talk three years ago. San Antonio's like suddenly started letting players go. Remember they didn't re sign like it.

Do Jon Day Murray or something.

Do Jon Day Murray or something.

Why why wouldn't they re sign him? They wanted Wemby and Papovich wasn't geta get fired. So I do think to some degree this is an unsolvable problem. I think load management. I think the NBA has done things like you got to play sixty five games so you don't win awards. I think the young players have seen that and aunt SGA, Jason Tatum. Simmons talked about this yesterday. Jason Tatum, he's the first of the arena, last to leave. He likes to play. It's been Tatum season.

Why why wouldn't they re sign him? They wanted Wemby and Papovich wasn't geta get fired. So I do think to some degree this is an unsolvable problem. I think load management. I think the NBA has done things like you got to play sixty five games so you don't win awards. I think the young players have seen that and aunt SGA, Jason Tatum. Simmons talked about this yesterday. Jason Tatum, he's the first of the arena, last to leave. He likes to play. It's been Tatum season.

He's the best guy in the team, and other than SGA and Jokic, she's been the most day to day impactful guy in the league.

He's the best guy in the team, and other than SGA and Jokic, she's been the most day to day impactful guy in the league.

And he's really durable, which I think, you know, both of.

And he's really durable, which I think, you know, both of.

Us have criticized NBA players for you play sixty five games and you call it a season, and you take like little sabbaticals or you leave or your nurse injuries.

Us have criticized NBA players for you play sixty five games and you call it a season, and you take like little sabbaticals or you leave or your nurse injuries.

Tatum's out there all the time.

Tatum's out there all the time.

I've said this. I've gone to see Tatum play four times, never in Boston. First guy on the floor two hours before tip off, working on his jumper. So it was shocking last night. Tatum tweak his ankle yesterday, which was shocking because he's so durable, and he plays both ends of the floor, and so I think you can work your way around load management. I do not think in basketball you can work your way around tanking. Find us.

I've said this. I've gone to see Tatum play four times, never in Boston. First guy on the floor two hours before tip off, working on his jumper. So it was shocking last night. Tatum tweak his ankle yesterday, which was shocking because he's so durable, and he plays both ends of the floor, and so I think you can work your way around load management. I do not think in basketball you can work your way around tanking. Find us.

It doesn't. We get Wemby.

It doesn't. We get Wemby.

We're gonna make He'll make the franchise where two billion more dollars? Go ahead, find me. Find me fifty million dollars as an owner? Go ahead, go ahead, find me. Well, what was Lebron worth for the Cavaliers? Two billion dollars minimum? You can't find teams enough that tank owners don't care. If I you know, I buy a team for two billion dollars, it'll be worth eight over the next decade. Go ahead, find me.

We're gonna make He'll make the franchise where two billion more dollars? Go ahead, find me. Find me fifty million dollars as an owner? Go ahead, go ahead, find me. Well, what was Lebron worth for the Cavaliers? Two billion dollars minimum? You can't find teams enough that tank owners don't care. If I you know, I buy a team for two billion dollars, it'll be worth eight over the next decade. Go ahead, find me.

What do I care?

What do I care?

I want Wemby, I want Cooper flag J Mack with a.

I want Wemby, I want Cooper flag J Mack with a.

News no, no turn on the news. This is the herd line news.

News no, no turn on the news. This is the herd line news.

I think we probably agreed. Tanking doesn't work. NFL, NBA. Remember when the Eagles pulled their theirs, their quarterback at like halftime of a game. Their coach it was it was the coach before Siriani, Doug Peterson. He caught so much heat for that. But you tank can keep a pick NBA. Happens all the time.

I think we probably agreed. Tanking doesn't work. NFL, NBA. Remember when the Eagles pulled their theirs, their quarterback at like halftime of a game. Their coach it was it was the coach before Siriani, Doug Peterson. He caught so much heat for that. But you tank can keep a pick NBA. Happens all the time.

Yeah, Andrew Luck with the Colts, I'm pro tanking.

Yeah, Andrew Luck with the Colts, I'm pro tanking.

I don't know about you.

I don't know about you.

Yeah, I mean I think I wouldn't say I'm pro tanking, but I do think there are times when you have generational talent that I mean, I mean, there are certain talents like they were talking about Luke and Wemby when they were fourteen years old, you know, I mean that we looked it up this morning, like so and Lebron was fifteen. Bryce Harper, everybody knew Bryce Harper in high school at Bishop Gorman High School in Las Vegas. He was sixteen in sports ullustrated.

Yeah, I mean I think I wouldn't say I'm pro tanking, but I do think there are times when you have generational talent that I mean, I mean, there are certain talents like they were talking about Luke and Wemby when they were fourteen years old, you know, I mean that we looked it up this morning, like so and Lebron was fifteen. Bryce Harper, everybody knew Bryce Harper in high school at Bishop Gorman High School in Las Vegas. He was sixteen in sports ullustrated.

You do what you have to do to get him.

You do what you have to do to get him.

Yeah, let's talk about Kirk Cousins.

Yeah, let's talk about Kirk Cousins.

Colin.

Colin.

I mean, listen, we haven't said much about him in the offseason. He's still with Atlanta, He's not gonna be the starter, and he wants out. However, reports are saying Cousins will not wave his no trade clause until after the draft, despite the Falcon shopping him. So it's pretty clear Kirk was to see how the dust settles. Who gets shador. We know cam Ward is going to the Titans one and Kirk Cousins is probably gonna say, fine, wave my clause so I can go to X team where I could probably be the starter. It seems like though we're down to the Browns, the Giants, and the Steelers. Those are the only three teams. The Jets clearly made a promise to Justin Fields that he's our guy.

I mean, listen, we haven't said much about him in the offseason. He's still with Atlanta, He's not gonna be the starter, and he wants out. However, reports are saying Cousins will not wave his no trade clause until after the draft, despite the Falcon shopping him. So it's pretty clear Kirk was to see how the dust settles. Who gets shador. We know cam Ward is going to the Titans one and Kirk Cousins is probably gonna say, fine, wave my clause so I can go to X team where I could probably be the starter. It seems like though we're down to the Browns, the Giants, and the Steelers. Those are the only three teams. The Jets clearly made a promise to Justin Fields that he's our guy.

Yeah, I think Kirk is playing it smart here. And this goes back to my Aaron Rodgers thing. What's the hurry? Pittsburgh's really a great fit for Malibu guy. Pittsburgh defensive culture, Like, I think Aaron Rodgers is too smart to make a really dumb decision. And I don't care about DK Metcalf. That's not why I'm going to go to a team because I like a wide receiver you roll on ankle. You don't have DK Metcalf. That's not why I'm going to a team. And no, I think listen when you get it. It's one thing if you're in the prime of your career or you're a young but when you're at the end of your career, you should be pick here. Aaron should be pick Kirk. Cousins and Aaron have three hundred million dollars, what's the point of playing and getting hurt. Like as you get older and have more money, you have more leverage because you have less options, but less need to build a legacy or build your bank account.

Yeah, I think Kirk is playing it smart here. And this goes back to my Aaron Rodgers thing. What's the hurry? Pittsburgh's really a great fit for Malibu guy. Pittsburgh defensive culture, Like, I think Aaron Rodgers is too smart to make a really dumb decision. And I don't care about DK Metcalf. That's not why I'm going to go to a team because I like a wide receiver you roll on ankle. You don't have DK Metcalf. That's not why I'm going to a team. And no, I think listen when you get it. It's one thing if you're in the prime of your career or you're a young but when you're at the end of your career, you should be pick here. Aaron should be pick Kirk. Cousins and Aaron have three hundred million dollars, what's the point of playing and getting hurt. Like as you get older and have more money, you have more leverage because you have less options, but less need to build a legacy or build your bank account.

So why not we and for the Falcons, you know you could get a win. You don't want to wish, But like a quarterback somewhere gets hurt in the offseason, he's gonna be out until December's bringing to Kirk Cousins. And now you trained for him. You got to give up some draft capital. But Kirk Cousins, I would agree playing it's smart here Colin, it's crazy. Two years ago he was with Minnesota and they hosted a home playoff game. Remember how good he was. They lost to the Giants, and then he the Achilles and now he's a backup and it's just say, oh man, it's just tough go for Kirk Cousins. Let's get to the next story, and that is the vikings at Aaron Rodgers. Rumors seem to be over, but it doesn't mean they've crowned JJ McCarthy the new king of the North just yet. Take a listen to McCarthy talking about the starting QB job.

So why not we and for the Falcons, you know you could get a win. You don't want to wish, But like a quarterback somewhere gets hurt in the offseason, he's gonna be out until December's bringing to Kirk Cousins. And now you trained for him. You got to give up some draft capital. But Kirk Cousins, I would agree playing it's smart here Colin, it's crazy. Two years ago he was with Minnesota and they hosted a home playoff game. Remember how good he was. They lost to the Giants, and then he the Achilles and now he's a backup and it's just say, oh man, it's just tough go for Kirk Cousins. Let's get to the next story, and that is the vikings at Aaron Rodgers. Rumors seem to be over, but it doesn't mean they've crowned JJ McCarthy the new king of the North just yet. Take a listen to McCarthy talking about the starting QB job.

We as a fan base or even media found out like you're the guy v the guy recently?

We as a fan base or even media found out like you're the guy v the guy recently?

When did you know?

When did you know?

When did they tell you or when was that message to you?

When did they tell you or when was that message to you?

They haven't told me. I'm happy they didn't because I tried to Aaron it every single day and I never want that to be given to me, and it's such a privilege and opportunity to give that, give me that chance, and I'm just going to make the most of it.

They haven't told me. I'm happy they didn't because I tried to Aaron it every single day and I never want that to be given to me, and it's such a privilege and opportunity to give that, give me that chance, and I'm just going to make the most of it.

It's a good attitude, answered answer, young quarterback saying all the right things.

It's a good attitude, answered answer, young quarterback saying all the right things.

You know he's going to be the guy, but he's said, hey, nothing's given to me.

You know he's going to be the guy, but he's said, hey, nothing's given to me.

I kind of liked that, kind of like that attitude, you know, one of us.

I kind of liked that, kind of like that attitude, you know, one of us.

Here on this set, like Tim at Michigan a lot. Remember when I had him in my mock draft top dead and you kind of sort of scoped.

Here on this set, like Tim at Michigan a lot. Remember when I had him in my mock draft top dead and you kind of sort of scoped.

O you you you a year before the draft you went on some sort of weird campaign for JJ McCarthy and I said, it'd be nice if he ever liked through thirty times in one game, or if you played from behind or you know, occasionally played under duress without a great run game and a great coach. It had a very Bama quarterback feel, like I got sabing a run game, a lead. But I will say when he did play in the preseason, I liked what I saw.

O you you you a year before the draft you went on some sort of weird campaign for JJ McCarthy and I said, it'd be nice if he ever liked through thirty times in one game, or if you played from behind or you know, occasionally played under duress without a great run game and a great coach. It had a very Bama quarterback feel, like I got sabing a run game, a lead. But I will say when he did play in the preseason, I liked what I saw.

Well, you remember that playoff game against Alabama. I think he almost threw a pick on like the second pass of the game. Yes, and I was like, oh, JJ, bro don't do this. And then he rebounded. He had rally to victory. He was very good. I'm just saying Kevin O'Connell can make quarterbacks pretty awesome. Yeah, I think there's huge upside. They're my sleeper in the NFC if you could win year.

Well, you remember that playoff game against Alabama. I think he almost threw a pick on like the second pass of the game. Yes, and I was like, oh, JJ, bro don't do this. And then he rebounded. He had rally to victory. He was very good. I'm just saying Kevin O'Connell can make quarterbacks pretty awesome. Yeah, I think there's huge upside. They're my sleeper in the NFC if you could win year.

And most of these horrorball Michigan recruits, I like him. They had the right mindset, like the School of hard Knocks with Jim Harball. Like I'm trying to think of any Michigan guy in recent memory. I didn't like now Blake Korham didn't do anything for the Rams, but he got he broke his wrist or something banged.

And most of these horrorball Michigan recruits, I like him. They had the right mindset, like the School of hard Knocks with Jim Harball. Like I'm trying to think of any Michigan guy in recent memory. I didn't like now Blake Korham didn't do anything for the Rams, but he got he broke his wrist or something banged.

It was weird that he didn't play more.

It was weird that he didn't play more.

But you know, there is some value. And I like Alabama players coming out mostly because they've been hard coached by Saban and most of Harbaugh's guys like JJ McCarthy got hard coaching and like you have to mean Jim's not gonna suffer fool. So you know JJ is a hard worker, he's a focus kid, he's smart, because Harball wouldn't have a quarterback.

But you know, there is some value. And I like Alabama players coming out mostly because they've been hard coached by Saban and most of Harbaugh's guys like JJ McCarthy got hard coaching and like you have to mean Jim's not gonna suffer fool. So you know JJ is a hard worker, he's a focus kid, he's smart, because Harball wouldn't have a quarterback.

That's not final story is the New York Giants have signed Jameis Winston. That happened over the weekend. But here's the interesting thing. They are sitting on the third pick and would you guess who the betting favorite is to go third overall? And that is Shadoor Sanders plus one oh five. Now, you and I I don't see how the Browns don't take Shador. It does not make sense at all. So I'm personally not buying this. And just to be clear, you can't get down huge, but you can't go bet six figures on this right now at anywhere. They just won't let you because you probably have inside info. So I'm still gonna say Shdor goes two to the Browns. I don't see how they pass up.

That's not final story is the New York Giants have signed Jameis Winston. That happened over the weekend. But here's the interesting thing. They are sitting on the third pick and would you guess who the betting favorite is to go third overall? And that is Shadoor Sanders plus one oh five. Now, you and I I don't see how the Browns don't take Shador. It does not make sense at all. So I'm personally not buying this. And just to be clear, you can't get down huge, but you can't go bet six figures on this right now at anywhere. They just won't let you because you probably have inside info. So I'm still gonna say Shdor goes two to the Browns. I don't see how they pass up.

Well, he's not going lower than three, and it would be a big mistake. Yeah, yea, yeah, I will. I'm going to talk about this more today. I do not understand the Chaudeur Sanders shade. And I'll get into this more today. I think people are making I think people are overthinking the room. I think he's going to be really good as a pro I'm gonna talk about this more later.

Well, he's not going lower than three, and it would be a big mistake. Yeah, yea, yeah, I will. I'm going to talk about this more today. I do not understand the Chaudeur Sanders shade. And I'll get into this more today. I think people are making I think people are overthinking the room. I think he's going to be really good as a pro I'm gonna talk about this more later.

Well, where he goes matters. If he goes to Dabo or Stefanski, I think it's win win.

Well, where he goes matters. If he goes to Dabo or Stefanski, I think it's win win.

Colorado was a horrible old o line trailing and no run game, and he completed seventy four percent of his throws.

Colorado was a horrible old o line trailing and no run game, and he completed seventy four percent of his throws.

You can't look yourself in the mirror and say I thought JJ McCarthy was a better pro prospect than Shad or Sanders. He was not, absolutely not. So there was a better quarterback now I'm McCarthy. I totally agree with McCarthy's just toolsy. He's got size.

You can't look yourself in the mirror and say I thought JJ McCarthy was a better pro prospect than Shad or Sanders. He was not, absolutely not. So there was a better quarterback now I'm McCarthy. I totally agree with McCarthy's just toolsy. He's got size.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah, no, I totally agree, And that's not an anti JJ McCarthy. I think Shaduur is a really good prospect. Is he a great prospect? No, but he's a really good part to come. Yeah, like a one every seven years.

Yeah, no, I totally agree, And that's not an anti JJ McCarthy. I think Shaduur is a really good prospect. Is he a great prospect? No, but he's a really good part to come. Yeah, like a one every seven years.

I like cam Ward Is he a great prospect? I don't think so he's great?

I like cam Ward Is he a great prospect? I don't think so he's great?

No, I don't.

No, I don't.

Caleb Williams great prospect.

Caleb Williams great prospect.

Great prospect?

Great prospect?

Right?

Right?

J Mack with the news.

J Mack with the news.

Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the herd Line News.

Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the herd Line News.

You know it's funny you have kids, and all my kids now except one, are in their twenties, and so they go on job interviews, and you know, I've talked to my kids about this, like there's certain things. You know, I'm not going to tell you. I'm not gonna helicopter parent, but you know I'll tell my daughter. Yeah, you probably don't want to bring up vacation time on your first interview. I have a company fifty employees, growing fast. If you're asking about that in the first five minutes, you're probably not built for my company. I like grinders. Sorry, there are things you just don't say in life. Even though you think them, you may not want to say them. And this was a moment yesterday. It's not the end of the world. But football is the ultimate team sport. It is the ultimate team sport. Everybody plays her, everybody plays her. You grab that rope, and if there's one loose grip on that rope, it can screw up the whole team. One guy not committed. And I heard Pokin Nakua yesterday at twenty three years old, say this, and I didn't love it.

You know it's funny you have kids, and all my kids now except one, are in their twenties, and so they go on job interviews, and you know, I've talked to my kids about this, like there's certain things. You know, I'm not going to tell you. I'm not gonna helicopter parent, but you know I'll tell my daughter. Yeah, you probably don't want to bring up vacation time on your first interview. I have a company fifty employees, growing fast. If you're asking about that in the first five minutes, you're probably not built for my company. I like grinders. Sorry, there are things you just don't say in life. Even though you think them, you may not want to say them. And this was a moment yesterday. It's not the end of the world. But football is the ultimate team sport. It is the ultimate team sport. Everybody plays her, everybody plays her. You grab that rope, and if there's one loose grip on that rope, it can screw up the whole team. One guy not committed. And I heard Pokin Nakua yesterday at twenty three years old, say this, and I didn't love it.

I want to retire at the age of thirty. I'm twenty three right now, I'm going into year three, so like ten years, it wouldn't even be ten years. It'd be like maybe seven or eight. But like ad I think of Aaron Donald like man like he to go out at the top. I think it would be super cool. Hopefully like the rest of our career will go healthy. But I like, man, you have shoulder surgery, you have knee surgery, you have ankle and be like yo, Like by the time my kids could be eighteen, I'm like, I could be very walking if I like, if you play the game and like you sustain all the injuries.

I want to retire at the age of thirty. I'm twenty three right now, I'm going into year three, so like ten years, it wouldn't even be ten years. It'd be like maybe seven or eight. But like ad I think of Aaron Donald like man like he to go out at the top. I think it would be super cool. Hopefully like the rest of our career will go healthy. But I like, man, you have shoulder surgery, you have knee surgery, you have ankle and be like yo, Like by the time my kids could be eighteen, I'm like, I could be very walking if I like, if you play the game and like you sustain all the injuries.

Don't love it.

Don't love it.

You know, when Trevor Lawrence said, I'm not defined by football, it doesn't speak necessarily for me. And my thought was, well, that that says a lot NFL general managers. Here's a little secret. They're not looking for work life balance. They're not. They don't care. They want you to be Kobe, they want you to be obsessed, they want you to be Brady, they want you to be Lamar Jackson. They don't want work life balance. And I think it actually puts a light on Pooka. What if next year, he's got more than more than a few drops. Is that guy committed? Is he putting in the time he misses a couple games in a row. Oh, maybe he's just protecting his body over team. You introduce questions you don't need to introduce. And I know most of you young media, you're all pro player. Oh the humanity of it. Nobody's looking for humanity. They're looking for eighteen nineteen games, one hundred and twenty catches playing hurt. That's what they're looking for. You ever watch the show Survivor? You ever watch that show? Who are the people that unravel first on Survival? They miss their bed, they miss their friends, and you don't root for them. You view them as soft. You root when you watch Survivor for the people that are totally obsessed, really want to win.

You know, when Trevor Lawrence said, I'm not defined by football, it doesn't speak necessarily for me. And my thought was, well, that that says a lot NFL general managers. Here's a little secret. They're not looking for work life balance. They're not. They don't care. They want you to be Kobe, they want you to be obsessed, they want you to be Brady, they want you to be Lamar Jackson. They don't want work life balance. And I think it actually puts a light on Pooka. What if next year, he's got more than more than a few drops. Is that guy committed? Is he putting in the time he misses a couple games in a row. Oh, maybe he's just protecting his body over team. You introduce questions you don't need to introduce. And I know most of you young media, you're all pro player. Oh the humanity of it. Nobody's looking for humanity. They're looking for eighteen nineteen games, one hundred and twenty catches playing hurt. That's what they're looking for. You ever watch the show Survivor? You ever watch that show? Who are the people that unravel first on Survival? They miss their bed, they miss their friends, and you don't root for them. You view them as soft. You root when you watch Survivor for the people that are totally obsessed, really want to win.

They're all in.

They're all in.

That's what you want to see win. And again, it's not the end of the world. But you start talking retirement. This has been said for years, and you're already there. You go back and look at Aaron Rodgers twenty twenty three, Green Bay quoted, I'm ninety percent into retirement. He's never been great since Big Ben started talking retirement. Late Pittsburgh. It ended poorly. You can think about it, you can financially plan for it. I wouldn't discuss it. People are not looking for work life balance. They want their player. I mean, again, the NFL is a team sport. As great as Mahomes is two Super Bowls doesn't have the right left tackle humiliated. You gotta play hurt. This is not baseball. There's a game tomorrow, there's not there's not a game for six months. Play hurt my growin, Yeah, get over it. Everybody's hurts. So it's it's one of those things. And by the way, Pooka's impact on the right, I mean, they're very good with him, they're not good without him. But in two years, by the way, if you're sitting there on the draft board and you're thinking, you know what, maybe time to go first round wide receiver, if anything, it could hurt your leverage. So sometimes you just got to keep things to yourself. And talking about retirement at twenty three. I don't love it. Aaron started talking about it four years ago, and I think green Bay said, well that Jordan loved draft pick was pretty smart after all, right, because if he talked about it publicly, in twenty twenty three, then you knew he had talked about it privately, probably in twenty twenty one or twenty twenty two. Because people talk privately about stuff before they go public with stuff. They practice it on their wives or their friends, they see their reaction from their family.

That's what you want to see win. And again, it's not the end of the world. But you start talking retirement. This has been said for years, and you're already there. You go back and look at Aaron Rodgers twenty twenty three, Green Bay quoted, I'm ninety percent into retirement. He's never been great since Big Ben started talking retirement. Late Pittsburgh. It ended poorly. You can think about it, you can financially plan for it. I wouldn't discuss it. People are not looking for work life balance. They want their player. I mean, again, the NFL is a team sport. As great as Mahomes is two Super Bowls doesn't have the right left tackle humiliated. You gotta play hurt. This is not baseball. There's a game tomorrow, there's not there's not a game for six months. Play hurt my growin, Yeah, get over it. Everybody's hurts. So it's it's one of those things. And by the way, Pooka's impact on the right, I mean, they're very good with him, they're not good without him. But in two years, by the way, if you're sitting there on the draft board and you're thinking, you know what, maybe time to go first round wide receiver, if anything, it could hurt your leverage. So sometimes you just got to keep things to yourself. And talking about retirement at twenty three. I don't love it. Aaron started talking about it four years ago, and I think green Bay said, well that Jordan loved draft pick was pretty smart after all, right, because if he talked about it publicly, in twenty twenty three, then you knew he had talked about it privately, probably in twenty twenty one or twenty twenty two. Because people talk privately about stuff before they go public with stuff. They practice it on their wives or their friends, they see their reaction from their family.

So it's not the end of the world.

So it's not the end of the world.

But I don't love it because I talked to general managers all the time and they're not looking for they're not looking for work life balance. Nobody's interested in that. They want you to be obsessed. Well that's not healthy. Well it's football. It's not that healthy to begin with. You're getting tackled by the strongest men on the planet. It's not that healthy. If again, protein shakes and play through paid and plyometrics play through it, it's not the end of the world. But I don't I don't love when when Trevor Lawrence says I'm not defined by football. Actually that comment sort of defined you. You're not obsessed by it. I know the young media stallions never comfortable with this topic.

But I don't love it because I talked to general managers all the time and they're not looking for they're not looking for work life balance. Nobody's interested in that. They want you to be obsessed. Well that's not healthy. Well it's football. It's not that healthy to begin with. You're getting tackled by the strongest men on the planet. It's not that healthy. If again, protein shakes and play through paid and plyometrics play through it, it's not the end of the world. But I don't I don't love when when Trevor Lawrence says I'm not defined by football. Actually that comment sort of defined you. You're not obsessed by it. I know the young media stallions never comfortable with this topic.

Sorry, Colin not you not your best work there. I'm a huge fan of that take. You're going to catch some heat from the staff online. You know the creatines online that are savages. Like if you could retire at thirty as a millionaire and not take hits to the head deep into your thirty pep, don't you do that?

Sorry, Colin not you not your best work there. I'm a huge fan of that take. You're going to catch some heat from the staff online. You know the creatines online that are savages. Like if you could retire at thirty as a millionaire and not take hits to the head deep into your thirty pep, don't you do that?

Yeah, that's a no brainer. Yeah, And what did I say to Strant? Keep it to yourself. Don't advertise it, don't tell everybody in the room, your GM, your teammates, guys, I'm putting away a lot of money. I am out of here. Just don't tell. When you're interviewing for a job, what's my vacation time? You can want six weeks, you'll probably get three or four. Don't advertise it, don't talk about it. You don't have to put every meal on Twitter.

Yeah, that's a no brainer. Yeah, And what did I say to Strant? Keep it to yourself. Don't advertise it, don't tell everybody in the room, your GM, your teammates, guys, I'm putting away a lot of money. I am out of here. Just don't tell. When you're interviewing for a job, what's my vacation time? You can want six weeks, you'll probably get three or four. Don't advertise it, don't talk about it. You don't have to put every meal on Twitter.

You know you don't have to put.

You know you don't have to put.

Everything on Twitter. You want them to lie in these.

Everything on Twitter. You want them to lie in these.

Media absolutely all you think I tell before I negotiate with Fox everything I'm thinking. You think they're telling me everything they're thinking. Probably my age starts with a six. You think they're telling me everything. You can keep secrets. That doesn't mean it's all sinister. You don't tell everybody everything.

Media absolutely all you think I tell before I negotiate with Fox everything I'm thinking. You think they're telling me everything they're thinking. Probably my age starts with a six. You think they're telling me everything. You can keep secrets. That doesn't mean it's all sinister. You don't tell everybody everything.

It's not that.

It's not that.

I mean, listen, here's how you keep.

I mean, listen, here's how you keep.

Your job in the NFL, winning and by the way as a general manager, they all tell me this, They're already looking three drafts down the road. You think the Rams are just worried about this draft. They're looking at next year's quarterback draft because Stafford interesting. But by the way, the Rams know the best freshman quarterbacks in college football.

Your job in the NFL, winning and by the way as a general manager, they all tell me this, They're already looking three drafts down the road. You think the Rams are just worried about this draft. They're looking at next year's quarterback draft because Stafford interesting. But by the way, the Rams know the best freshman quarterbacks in college football.

They are three years.

They are three years.

I remember one time I ran into the ex president of ESPN, George Bodenheimer, in the parking lot years ago.

I remember one time I ran into the ex president of ESPN, George Bodenheimer, in the parking lot years ago.

I think I've told this story before and George I.

I think I've told this story before and George I.

Was talking about some plans I had, and George said, oh, I've got a five and a ten year plan. I said, how can you have a ten year plan? He goes, I know every right available over the next decade. You think these networks are just making it up? Do you think they're advertising it? No? Okay, before companies let go of three hundred people, it often catches people by surprise. Why you don't think they knew about it six months out? Of course they did. I can remember being I can remember being told a secret a decade ago by somebody in management. He said, you can never tell anybody this, and it was it's a term now that's that's used a lot. That's overused. But this manager said at the other place, he was just this community. We were having a beer and I was, you know, we were having a beer. He's one of my friends. He said, just just don't mention this word ever, like, don't mention it. And I said, why he goes, because it's all we talk about in our senior advisory.

Was talking about some plans I had, and George said, oh, I've got a five and a ten year plan. I said, how can you have a ten year plan? He goes, I know every right available over the next decade. You think these networks are just making it up? Do you think they're advertising it? No? Okay, before companies let go of three hundred people, it often catches people by surprise. Why you don't think they knew about it six months out? Of course they did. I can remember being I can remember being told a secret a decade ago by somebody in management. He said, you can never tell anybody this, and it was it's a term now that's that's used a lot. That's overused. But this manager said at the other place, he was just this community. We were having a beer and I was, you know, we were having a beer. He's one of my friends. He said, just just don't mention this word ever, like, don't mention it. And I said, why he goes, because it's all we talk about in our senior advisory.

Keep it to yourself.

Keep it to yourself.

At the same time, don't you think it helps the teams prepare for as of like Andrew look cut them fly? The Colts were not ready. They've been in a total spiral since he left Aaron Donald. They had some time to prepare and guess what they were so adorable?

At the same time, don't you think it helps the teams prepare for as of like Andrew look cut them fly? The Colts were not ready. They've been in a total spiral since he left Aaron Donald. They had some time to prepare and guess what they were so adorable?

Idealistic?

Idealistic?

Do you think the teams tell you their plans in advance?

Do you think the teams tell you their plans in advance?

They should?

They should?

To the superstar, they should.

To the superstar, they should.

You don't think Fox runs to coward? Coward? What do you think about?

You don't think Fox runs to coward? Coward? What do you think about?

When did you become twenty three?

When did you become twenty three?

I forgot?

I forgot?

Oh this idealistic?

Oh this idealistic?

Shouldn't shouldn't? I just shouldn't players tell the teams what they're gonna do three.

Shouldn't shouldn't? I just shouldn't players tell the teams what they're gonna do three.

Years out players, but a handful of stars on the team, the core right, I would if Joe Burrow says, hey, I'm out of here at thirty five, you guys better get your acting.

Years out players, but a handful of stars on the team, the core right, I would if Joe Burrow says, hey, I'm out of here at thirty five, you guys better get your acting.

Get By the way, I'll give you an example. I'll give you an example of Kareem Abdul Jabbar Luel Cinder at the time was in Milwaukee. He did the team of solid. This is very rare. He told the Bucks owner, I want out.

Get By the way, I'll give you an example. I'll give you an example of Kareem Abdul Jabbar Luel Cinder at the time was in Milwaukee. He did the team of solid. This is very rare. He told the Bucks owner, I want out.

Oh yeah, he would.

Oh yeah, he would.

He didn't make it public. He did the Bucks a total solid. So in that instance, when you know you're gone and you don't want to screw it. By the way, he also kept it private because Kareem's very smart. He knew if he let it out, the Lakers would have less leverage. So Carmelo Anthony one time, to your point, was totally honest. So Jmax point is you have to be honest. Carmelo Anthony goes out and says, hey, I'm out of here.

He didn't make it public. He did the Bucks a total solid. So in that instance, when you know you're gone and you don't want to screw it. By the way, he also kept it private because Kareem's very smart. He knew if he let it out, the Lakers would have less leverage. So Carmelo Anthony one time, to your point, was totally honest. So Jmax point is you have to be honest. Carmelo Anthony goes out and says, hey, I'm out of here.

Denver.

Denver.

He got screwed because everybody knew. Denver's like, we're not gonna give the Knicks anything. So he ended up being a ten million dollar chandelier in an empty mansion. Keep it to yourself. That doesn't mean I'm anti boss, but they're not telling me every day. I'm not telling you everything. Who of you want to retire, I've.

He got screwed because everybody knew. Denver's like, we're not gonna give the Knicks anything. So he ended up being a ten million dollar chandelier in an empty mansion. Keep it to yourself. That doesn't mean I'm anti boss, but they're not telling me every day. I'm not telling you everything. Who of you want to retire, I've.

Got no problem with it.

Got no problem with it.

This is a new side of calhert Folks. I gotta be honest. I gotta button it up when I'm around you. Now, I better don't know if I can trust you with this family Seeker truck.

This is a new side of calhert Folks. I gotta be honest. I gotta button it up when I'm around you. Now, I better don't know if I can trust you with this family Seeker truck.

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Honey, How do I look in this dress?

Great? Honey?

Great? Honey?

What about my new haircut? You are amazing?

What about my new haircut? You are amazing?

That's the answer, always wisdom. I like it.

That's the answer, always wisdom. I like it.

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So the draft is less than a month away, and Jay McK and I all love the draft. I love it a lot and I watch I do a lot of mock drafts. I watch a lot of video, Like a lot of you, I'm really into it. If it was if it didn't hurt ratings, I'd probably talk at twelve months out of the year. I love the draft, but you know, probably more than most people do. So a lot of times during the draft process I will just go through YouTube, or I'll watch highlights and I'll see pieces of video not the games. I'll see pieces of video that really strongly alter my opinion. I remember Calvin Johnson at Georgia Tech. I remember the video four or five clips of him. Every time he made a catch, it was off a terrible throw. I mean because his college quarterback completed forty nine percent of his throws, so every catch he was making was a poorly thrown ball. And I kept thinking, good God, if he just gets a competent NFL quarterback. And I said it at the time, this is the greatest college quarterback receiver prospect I've ever seen. And I said that a large part is because of the video. Every catch he made it f like, could somebody throw the ball that's not underthrown, overthrown behind him? And I just kept watching clips over and over, and I'm like, I don't have to watch the games. I can tell how great he is by how bad his college quarterback is. I've said this about or Sanders. I think he's gonna be a really nice pro Why because I watch his video. He's under duress on every thro He's running for his life, and yet with the worst run game in Power five football last two years. He's the most sacked quarterback in Power five football. Last two years. He completed an insane seventy four percent of his throws. If he just gets decent to professional protection, what's he gonna complete in the pros?