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A Monday, and we are gonna be loaded Jimmy Johnson the Hall of Fame in one hour with Colin Wright Colin Wrong live in Los Angeles.

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And once again, I did not see any of the movies that won the Oscars last night, for the ninth straight year.

And once again, I did not see any of the movies that won the Oscars last night, for the ninth straight year.

I used to watch all of them. Now I watch none of them.

I used to watch all of them. Now I watch none of them.

Jmak, you know, you said, and I said, you know, you're a little ahead of yourself at that young man, that young stallion energy of yours. You had Luca turning the Lakers into Bill Russell's Celtics, and I was like, hold on there, cowboy. But I will say they leaned on Luca last night, and something is happening here, you start looking at the last six or seven games with Luca. They didn't even have Austin Reeves and Ruey last night, and they won. And there was a brief moment as they beat the Clippers last night that we thought tech CEO billionaire Steve Baumer would overtake the Bus family and the Lakers Genie and Jim Buss were struggling to get along. Yeah, that idea has been squashed. The Lakers better today, the Lakers future much brighter. Last night, Luca huge, first half of the Lakers once again bolt out to a lead, and the Clippers, desperate to have relevance in a star have the unlikable Kawhi who's never available and rarely talks, and James James Harden who can still give you numbers but was minus eighteen plus and minus last night. The Lakers have lovable Luca. Everybody loves Austin Reeves, and whether you love Lebron or not, you have to worship at the altar of his physicality, his biology. He is playing like he's twenty seven years old. And the Lakers have always understood this, and the Clippers, in their growth and their ascension, don't understand this. It's not just about having a star. It's about in Los Angeles, having the right star. This is not Indianapolis, this is not Orlando. They're stars everywhere. It's about having the right star. Kawhi, James Harden, come on, No, it's about having Jim Harbaugh's coach or Matt Stafford or Shohey or Tani or Luca. Luca is big and that the Lakers have always done that. I mean, they've had some stars who were stoic, like Kareem, but they got him, Magic Paw Gasol bit more stoic, and they've got Kobe. The Lakers have understod But it's not just a star.

Jmak, you know, you said, and I said, you know, you're a little ahead of yourself at that young man, that young stallion energy of yours. You had Luca turning the Lakers into Bill Russell's Celtics, and I was like, hold on there, cowboy. But I will say they leaned on Luca last night, and something is happening here, you start looking at the last six or seven games with Luca. They didn't even have Austin Reeves and Ruey last night, and they won. And there was a brief moment as they beat the Clippers last night that we thought tech CEO billionaire Steve Baumer would overtake the Bus family and the Lakers Genie and Jim Buss were struggling to get along. Yeah, that idea has been squashed. The Lakers better today, the Lakers future much brighter. Last night, Luca huge, first half of the Lakers once again bolt out to a lead, and the Clippers, desperate to have relevance in a star have the unlikable Kawhi who's never available and rarely talks, and James James Harden who can still give you numbers but was minus eighteen plus and minus last night. The Lakers have lovable Luca. Everybody loves Austin Reeves, and whether you love Lebron or not, you have to worship at the altar of his physicality, his biology. He is playing like he's twenty seven years old. And the Lakers have always understood this, and the Clippers, in their growth and their ascension, don't understand this. It's not just about having a star. It's about in Los Angeles, having the right star. This is not Indianapolis, this is not Orlando. They're stars everywhere. It's about having the right star. Kawhi, James Harden, come on, No, it's about having Jim Harbaugh's coach or Matt Stafford or Shohey or Tani or Luca. Luca is big and that the Lakers have always done that. I mean, they've had some stars who were stoic, like Kareem, but they got him, Magic Paw Gasol bit more stoic, and they've got Kobe. The Lakers have understod But it's not just a star.

It's Magic, it's Shack.

It's Magic, it's Shack.

It's Kobe, it's Lebron, it's Luca bigger than life. A lot of stars out there in the NBA that don't translate to wins. The other thing about the Lakers is they get stars. They're not desperate to get them. Same with the Dodgers. Dodgers and the Lakers aren't desperate for stars. They want to get stars like Freddie Freeman and Mookie Betts, who win games, who are great postseason guys, who can do multiple things well and I mean, comparing the Clippers and Lakers is six flags to Disney. You gotta be more than roller coasters. You gotta bring more in than roller coasters. And that's the difference with the Lakers last twenty two games, their first, second, and third in every analytic that matters first and wins. And there's so much inherent love and tradition and history with the Lakers in Los Angeles and the Dodgers that if you bring in a catalyst like a show Hey or a Luca, they're not only the biggest game in town to the biggest team in their sport. So they've won six straight and give JJ Reddick credit. Didn't have Austin Reeves, didn't have Rui. They're playing incredible defense, as Anthony Davis arguably the best defense in the league left. They're playing out of their mind. He's experimenting with small ball lineups. It's got a little Warriors feel to it. They don't have to necessarily a center on the floor at all times. I know a lot of people questioned Reddick, and I may have wondered if Luca was in the right shape, But last night was Luca's night, and once again the Lakers night, and here's the coach after.

It's Kobe, it's Lebron, it's Luca bigger than life. A lot of stars out there in the NBA that don't translate to wins. The other thing about the Lakers is they get stars. They're not desperate to get them. Same with the Dodgers. Dodgers and the Lakers aren't desperate for stars. They want to get stars like Freddie Freeman and Mookie Betts, who win games, who are great postseason guys, who can do multiple things well and I mean, comparing the Clippers and Lakers is six flags to Disney. You gotta be more than roller coasters. You gotta bring more in than roller coasters. And that's the difference with the Lakers last twenty two games, their first, second, and third in every analytic that matters first and wins. And there's so much inherent love and tradition and history with the Lakers in Los Angeles and the Dodgers that if you bring in a catalyst like a show Hey or a Luca, they're not only the biggest game in town to the biggest team in their sport. So they've won six straight and give JJ Reddick credit. Didn't have Austin Reeves, didn't have Rui. They're playing incredible defense, as Anthony Davis arguably the best defense in the league left. They're playing out of their mind. He's experimenting with small ball lineups. It's got a little Warriors feel to it. They don't have to necessarily a center on the floor at all times. I know a lot of people questioned Reddick, and I may have wondered if Luca was in the right shape, But last night was Luca's night, and once again the Lakers night, and here's the coach after.

And it just seemed like throughout the game, when we needed a bucket, when we needed him to draw a second, third defender, at times he was able to make the right play minus the six turnovers, but he played fantastic tonight. And again it was that verve and that spirit of competition, but also just something that is maybe it's an inner demon, I don't know, but it comes out.

And it just seemed like throughout the game, when we needed a bucket, when we needed him to draw a second, third defender, at times he was able to make the right play minus the six turnovers, but he played fantastic tonight. And again it was that verve and that spirit of competition, but also just something that is maybe it's an inner demon, I don't know, but it comes out.

And and it's fantastic for us when it does.

And and it's fantastic for us when it does.

Hey, this can't be overstated.

Hey, this can't be overstated.

For a lot of places in this country, it's just about getting a star that has never been it.

For a lot of places in this country, it's just about getting a star that has never been it.

With the Lakers, it's not just about getting a star.

With the Lakers, it's not just about getting a star.

How Gasol was the right fit for Kobe Bryant, who could be fall centric magic. Johnson was perfect to bring out the best in Kareem And I think what you're seeing with Luca and the reason they made the move.

How Gasol was the right fit for Kobe Bryant, who could be fall centric magic. Johnson was perfect to bring out the best in Kareem And I think what you're seeing with Luca and the reason they made the move.

They already had a d and Lebron two stars.

They already had a d and Lebron two stars.

But their takeaway was Luca will be better with Lebron. Luca on the nights, Lebron is a little tired, Luca can score thirty points and take over the game. You never knew if you were getting that with Ad eighty was a star. His personality more number two, little more stoic, a little more reticent.

But their takeaway was Luca will be better with Lebron. Luca on the nights, Lebron is a little tired, Luca can score thirty points and take over the game. You never knew if you were getting that with Ad eighty was a star. His personality more number two, little more stoic, a little more reticent.

But again it's not just about the start.

But again it's not just about the start.

Meanwhile, the Clippers have Kawhi Leonard who's almost never available. They give him an extension. They just want a star. Just give us a star. We just don't want to be irrelevant. The Lakers are never irrelevant, so they don't have to worry about they get the right star. And that's the difference between those two organizations. Six Flag and Disney both have roller coasters. One of them is beyond that. One of them is hotels, one of them is movies, one of them is films. One of them is working the late Steve jobs, connecting to people's hearts, not just going up and down on a roller coaster. Right, So when I'm watching Luca last night, like once again the Lakers do it, it's not just that, hey, we got a famous guy, that's not it. Spielberg can get a lot of famous actors. He leans on the really really box office draws who can draw people into a theater. That's the difference. And I thought this was interesting weekend. So you know, the forty nine ers will get to this later they'll be fine. But Deebo Samuel got traded to the Washington Commander. So this is something Jay Mack and I have been talking about. I think we even talked about this December January, like Deebo was unhappy, you know, where he'd fit Washington. So this was a pretty easy one to predict. The two things that jump out to me with this deal. Number one, it's a perfect fit. So Washington's got a ton of cap space, and Cliff Kinsbury's offense, which is a lot of motion, a lot of tricks, needs a chess piece. Deebo is not your classic number one receiver. He doesn't really separate. I think he's had one thousand yard reception year and that was four years ago. He's not Jamar Chase or Justin Jefferson. But Deebo Samuel is a great chess piece, and Shanahan is a chess master, and Cliff Kingsbury as an offensive coordinator is a chess master. So Deebo really works with about a half dozen teams in this league. So that's the first thing, he's a good fit. The second thing, though, oh, they only gave a fifth round pick.

Meanwhile, the Clippers have Kawhi Leonard who's almost never available. They give him an extension. They just want a star. Just give us a star. We just don't want to be irrelevant. The Lakers are never irrelevant, so they don't have to worry about they get the right star. And that's the difference between those two organizations. Six Flag and Disney both have roller coasters. One of them is beyond that. One of them is hotels, one of them is movies, one of them is films. One of them is working the late Steve jobs, connecting to people's hearts, not just going up and down on a roller coaster. Right, So when I'm watching Luca last night, like once again the Lakers do it, it's not just that, hey, we got a famous guy, that's not it. Spielberg can get a lot of famous actors. He leans on the really really box office draws who can draw people into a theater. That's the difference. And I thought this was interesting weekend. So you know, the forty nine ers will get to this later they'll be fine. But Deebo Samuel got traded to the Washington Commander. So this is something Jay Mack and I have been talking about. I think we even talked about this December January, like Deebo was unhappy, you know, where he'd fit Washington. So this was a pretty easy one to predict. The two things that jump out to me with this deal. Number one, it's a perfect fit. So Washington's got a ton of cap space, and Cliff Kinsbury's offense, which is a lot of motion, a lot of tricks, needs a chess piece. Deebo is not your classic number one receiver. He doesn't really separate. I think he's had one thousand yard reception year and that was four years ago. He's not Jamar Chase or Justin Jefferson. But Deebo Samuel is a great chess piece, and Shanahan is a chess master, and Cliff Kingsbury as an offensive coordinator is a chess master. So Deebo really works with about a half dozen teams in this league. So that's the first thing, he's a good fit. The second thing, though, oh, they only gave a fifth round pick.

Now think about that. A fifth round pick, okay.

Now think about that. A fifth round pick, okay.

The Dallas Cowboys in their division, gave up a fourth round pick for quarterback Trey Lance. And basically every quarterback that Kyle Shanahan's ever had, he makes them better. Kyle Shanahan gave up on Trey Lance. The Cowboys gave up a fourth round pick for Trey Lance. It didn't play third string behind Cooper Rush. They gave up a fourth round pick. The Cowboys did for Jonathan Mingo, who I told you the day they did it.

The Dallas Cowboys in their division, gave up a fourth round pick for quarterback Trey Lance. And basically every quarterback that Kyle Shanahan's ever had, he makes them better. Kyle Shanahan gave up on Trey Lance. The Cowboys gave up a fourth round pick for Trey Lance. It didn't play third string behind Cooper Rush. They gave up a fourth round pick. The Cowboys did for Jonathan Mingo, who I told you the day they did it.

That's a terrible move.

That's a terrible move.

A Mingo, by the way, last year, had five catches for Dallas. Like I'm telling you, moves. I'm a sportscaster. You can't just give away picks. And and you see this in the NFL. You start making two or three great moves. You get a Jayden Daniels, you get a Debo for a fifth round pick. You get Kingsbury, he was going to be a Raider or Bear coordinator. No, you steal Kingsbury with an aggressive deal. And then you on the other side in your division, you overpay a quarterback who's a b dack and make him eight plus plus money quarterback, and then you give away fourth round picks and all of a sudden one year later, you look at the Cowboys in Washington. Two years ago, Cowboys are winning twelve games. Washington is a laughing stock today the d Ball move considered Washington's a better team, a better organization, a better quarterback, and a much better deal. That's how quickly it happens in the NFL. I mean, look at the Cowboys coaching situation was a mess. The Mike McCarthy, basically begging for a job, got one with Dallas and.

A Mingo, by the way, last year, had five catches for Dallas. Like I'm telling you, moves. I'm a sportscaster. You can't just give away picks. And and you see this in the NFL. You start making two or three great moves. You get a Jayden Daniels, you get a Debo for a fifth round pick. You get Kingsbury, he was going to be a Raider or Bear coordinator. No, you steal Kingsbury with an aggressive deal. And then you on the other side in your division, you overpay a quarterback who's a b dack and make him eight plus plus money quarterback, and then you give away fourth round picks and all of a sudden one year later, you look at the Cowboys in Washington. Two years ago, Cowboys are winning twelve games. Washington is a laughing stock today the d Ball move considered Washington's a better team, a better organization, a better quarterback, and a much better deal. That's how quickly it happens in the NFL. I mean, look at the Cowboys coaching situation was a mess. The Mike McCarthy, basically begging for a job, got one with Dallas and.

Said no thanks, I'm out of here.

Said no thanks, I'm out of here.

And from what I can tell, Jerry Jones walked down the hallway at one Cowboy place and said, what's your name again, Schottenheimer? I knew your father, would you like to be coach? I mean it was a mess. It was a Friday news dump. So one of the things that's great about the NFL and baseball, you know, it takes a while to go from awful to good. In the NBA, you got to land the right stars. It takes a while. I mean the draft, it's a bunch of eighteen nineteen year old kids. They can't even get into the hotel bar. They're staying at the rips. But in the NFL, you get the coach right, the quarterback right. Two years of making good deals in the front office, Houston Texans laughing stock to playoff team Washington Commanders laughing stock that they are now a better team, better quarterback, better GM savvier coach. Oh, by the way, their coach dan Quinn. They stole from the Cowboys and it did not appear to be great for Dallas. So yeah, I thought this move, I mean, forget Philadelphia, they laped the Cowboys years ago. But this you start watching the Commanders right now. From stealing Cliff Kingsbury, who everybody he wanted to go to Vegas in Chicago, Washington. He's more of a Texas West Coast guy. Washington gets him. They draft Jayden Daniels. Remember a lot of people thought they were gonna draft Drake May. Nope, the Jade and Daniels move. They get an NBA ish guy, Adam Peters. The GM make him a football guy. Now they get Deebo Samuel, which, yes, it was obvious it would work. I only gave up a fifth rounder, didn't even have to give up Jonathan Allen, a good defensive lineman in the In the move which which that was rumored, didn't have to. So the silver star in Dallas becoming a bit of a black hole. That's what I feel like this morning. Does not take long in the NFL. Two or three missteps overpay for a quarterback. You go from a big brand to irrelevant. That's Dallas this morning. Who by the way, Jerry did not show up reasons unknown to the combine. They're giving away fourth round picks. You overpay Dak that is a third or fourth round team. If Matt Stafford would have gone to the Giant, I'd pick Dallas for last. Aaron Rodgers reportedly still in line potentially for the Giants. If that happens, I'd pick Dallas last. J Mac, you were right on Luca and his relevance. You know what's really interesting. When JJ Reddick got the job, everybody's.

And from what I can tell, Jerry Jones walked down the hallway at one Cowboy place and said, what's your name again, Schottenheimer? I knew your father, would you like to be coach? I mean it was a mess. It was a Friday news dump. So one of the things that's great about the NFL and baseball, you know, it takes a while to go from awful to good. In the NBA, you got to land the right stars. It takes a while. I mean the draft, it's a bunch of eighteen nineteen year old kids. They can't even get into the hotel bar. They're staying at the rips. But in the NFL, you get the coach right, the quarterback right. Two years of making good deals in the front office, Houston Texans laughing stock to playoff team Washington Commanders laughing stock that they are now a better team, better quarterback, better GM savvier coach. Oh, by the way, their coach dan Quinn. They stole from the Cowboys and it did not appear to be great for Dallas. So yeah, I thought this move, I mean, forget Philadelphia, they laped the Cowboys years ago. But this you start watching the Commanders right now. From stealing Cliff Kingsbury, who everybody he wanted to go to Vegas in Chicago, Washington. He's more of a Texas West Coast guy. Washington gets him. They draft Jayden Daniels. Remember a lot of people thought they were gonna draft Drake May. Nope, the Jade and Daniels move. They get an NBA ish guy, Adam Peters. The GM make him a football guy. Now they get Deebo Samuel, which, yes, it was obvious it would work. I only gave up a fifth rounder, didn't even have to give up Jonathan Allen, a good defensive lineman in the In the move which which that was rumored, didn't have to. So the silver star in Dallas becoming a bit of a black hole. That's what I feel like this morning. Does not take long in the NFL. Two or three missteps overpay for a quarterback. You go from a big brand to irrelevant. That's Dallas this morning. Who by the way, Jerry did not show up reasons unknown to the combine. They're giving away fourth round picks. You overpay Dak that is a third or fourth round team. If Matt Stafford would have gone to the Giant, I'd pick Dallas for last. Aaron Rodgers reportedly still in line potentially for the Giants. If that happens, I'd pick Dallas last. J Mac, you were right on Luca and his relevance. You know what's really interesting. When JJ Reddick got the job, everybody's.

Like, well, yeah, he's got a little bit of a duke y ego.

Like, well, yeah, he's got a little bit of a duke y ego.

He's coaching the hell out of this team. They are experient. Let me last night, it's like, Okay, we need more Dalton Dalton connect. I mean, we need more from other guys. You don't get Ruey in the corner. You don't have Ruey's side, you don't have the playmaking of Austin Reeves. Lebron only gave you seventeen. You needed Luca to be more centralized focus of the offense. JJ Reddick is becoming a coaching so I think.

He's coaching the hell out of this team. They are experient. Let me last night, it's like, Okay, we need more Dalton Dalton connect. I mean, we need more from other guys. You don't get Ruey in the corner. You don't have Ruey's side, you don't have the playmaking of Austin Reeves. Lebron only gave you seventeen. You needed Luca to be more centralized focus of the offense. JJ Reddick is becoming a coaching so I think.

He's a Coach of the Year without questioning the NBA.

He's a Coach of the Year without questioning the NBA.

By the way, when you saw the Clippers start double teaming, Luca instantly goes to the bench. Julta cannect get in there, and he starts getting wide open threes. Hit five threes. That's as many as Kawhi and James Harden hit combined. I mean, Colin, this Lakers team to the finals. I've been saying this down for two weeks. People yelling at me, laughing, Oh, making fun on the Lakers.

By the way, when you saw the Clippers start double teaming, Luca instantly goes to the bench. Julta cannect get in there, and he starts getting wide open threes. Hit five threes. That's as many as Kawhi and James Harden hit combined. I mean, Colin, this Lakers team to the finals. I've been saying this down for two weeks. People yelling at me, laughing, Oh, making fun on the Lakers.

You watch this team.

You watch this team.

I mean that twenty two game sample size you posted about earlier, that's like a quarter of the season.

I mean that twenty two game sample size you posted about earlier, that's like a quarter of the season.

They're playing amazing right now. Yeah, how low Casey beating the team?

They're playing amazing right now. Yeah, how low Casey beating the team?

Just tell me and and you know it's it's hard when you give up stars. I mean, Jimmy Butler leaves Miami with a great coach and they're rudderless to be able to get Luca going into his prime and still be a very good defensive team and It's really true. The Clippers just want a star. The Lakers picked the right start they had one with Ad. I mean you could have argued, I mean, why move Ad because the Lakers are like, we think this star plays better than a star that already won a title with Lebron. AD and Lebron did work. We think we can elevate another level of a Shaq Kobe combination Kobe Gasol, like we think can be better with Luca Lebron than Ad Lebron and a D Lebron was very good.

Just tell me and and you know it's it's hard when you give up stars. I mean, Jimmy Butler leaves Miami with a great coach and they're rudderless to be able to get Luca going into his prime and still be a very good defensive team and It's really true. The Clippers just want a star. The Lakers picked the right start they had one with Ad. I mean you could have argued, I mean, why move Ad because the Lakers are like, we think this star plays better than a star that already won a title with Lebron. AD and Lebron did work. We think we can elevate another level of a Shaq Kobe combination Kobe Gasol, like we think can be better with Luca Lebron than Ad Lebron and a D Lebron was very good.

Can you imagine when Lucas starts actually making three pointers like he was last night, Like he's probably at eighty to ninety percent coming back from the injury, probably eighty once he finds his legs.

Can you imagine when Lucas starts actually making three pointers like he was last night, Like he's probably at eighty to ninety percent coming back from the injury, probably eighty once he finds his legs.

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I got a lot of pushback last week when I said Jason Tatum's a great kid and wildly productive and super talented. He is not face of the league. I don't believe you need a face of the league in sports. I don't believe that's true. I think we've had three. I think Michael was Magic was Lebron is you can have one at a time. In my lifetime, there's been fifty great players. There's been three faces of the league. Jason Tatum's not on a face of the league. So Friday night they face the Cavs and Jason has forty six points.

I got a lot of pushback last week when I said Jason Tatum's a great kid and wildly productive and super talented. He is not face of the league. I don't believe you need a face of the league in sports. I don't believe that's true. I think we've had three. I think Michael was Magic was Lebron is you can have one at a time. In my lifetime, there's been fifty great players. There's been three faces of the league. Jason Tatum's not on a face of the league. So Friday night they face the Cavs and Jason has forty six points.

Oh, I am bombarded.

Oh, I am bombarded.

Collin you have forty six points, and I said, ah, it's interesting. James Harden led the NBA in scoring three straight years. Was he face of the league? In the last week, ten guys have scored forty or more points, including Quinton Grimes.

Collin you have forty six points, and I said, ah, it's interesting. James Harden led the NBA in scoring three straight years. Was he face of the league? In the last week, ten guys have scored forty or more points, including Quinton Grimes.

Is he a face of the league?

Is he a face of the league?

Dominique Wilkins scored sixty one times? Sixty one times. Dominique Wilkins scored over forty points. He was a scoring and dunking machine. Was he face of the league? No, I'll say it again. Face of the League is a formula. It is production and aura and personality and maybe your college career. But you know the most important thing with it? Are you great in the clutch? Magic Johnson NBA Finals, Center's hurt. He plays center, goes forty two and seventeen. I mean, that's face of the league. You're good in the clutch. You don't have to be the scoring champ. You don't have to have the flashiest game. You gotta be good in the clutch. Remember that Olympic game this pasta of the Olympics in Paris. Remember Tatum gold medal game. He had two points. He did not play against Serbia in the game before. That's face of the league. Okay, even even Friday night against the Cavs. Friday night against the Calves in the Big Tatum game, game was tied, three fifteen left, they needed buckets, they were at home. Tatum never scored again. Great first half, but in clutch time. There's a clutch time stat in the NBA, clutch time. The league keeps track of it. He shoots eighteen percent on three pointers in clutch time this year.

Dominique Wilkins scored sixty one times? Sixty one times. Dominique Wilkins scored over forty points. He was a scoring and dunking machine. Was he face of the league? No, I'll say it again. Face of the League is a formula. It is production and aura and personality and maybe your college career. But you know the most important thing with it? Are you great in the clutch? Magic Johnson NBA Finals, Center's hurt. He plays center, goes forty two and seventeen. I mean, that's face of the league. You're good in the clutch. You don't have to be the scoring champ. You don't have to have the flashiest game. You gotta be good in the clutch. Remember that Olympic game this pasta of the Olympics in Paris. Remember Tatum gold medal game. He had two points. He did not play against Serbia in the game before. That's face of the league. Okay, even even Friday night against the Cavs. Friday night against the Calves in the Big Tatum game, game was tied, three fifteen left, they needed buckets, they were at home. Tatum never scored again. Great first half, but in clutch time. There's a clutch time stat in the NBA, clutch time. The league keeps track of it. He shoots eighteen percent on three pointers in clutch time this year.

That's abysmal.

That's abysmal.

He shoots twenty seven on three pointers in the fourth quarter. By the way, his free throw percentage in clutch is the worst of any quarter, sixty six percent. So he's a worst three point shooter. He's a worst three point shooter in the fourth and overtime, and in clutch he's a worst free throw shooter. Then, but hey, he had forty he had a great first half against the Cavs. It's not about that. It is a formula to be faced of the league. You gotta want it, and he does want it, and he does have things that help.

He shoots twenty seven on three pointers in the fourth quarter. By the way, his free throw percentage in clutch is the worst of any quarter, sixty six percent. So he's a worst three point shooter. He's a worst three point shooter in the fourth and overtime, and in clutch he's a worst free throw shooter. Then, but hey, he had forty he had a great first half against the Cavs. It's not about that. It is a formula to be faced of the league. You gotta want it, and he does want it, and he does have things that help.

He went to Duke and he plays for the Celtics. That helps. That gives you it.

He went to Duke and he plays for the Celtics. That helps. That gives you it.

You're not going to be face of the league if you're playing probably for the Atlanta Hawks and you went to college SMU, we don't know who you are.

You're not going to be face of the league if you're playing probably for the Atlanta Hawks and you went to college SMU, we don't know who you are.

It helped.

It helped.

That's why international players we don't see him until are like, you know, third year in the league. We don't pay attention to a lot of them. So it does help.

That's why international players we don't see him until are like, you know, third year in the league. We don't pay attention to a lot of them. So it does help.

He went to Duke. He's a great kid. He wants to be it.

He went to Duke. He's a great kid. He wants to be it.

He plays for the Celtics and they got to the finals and they won and Jalen Brown was the MVP. How many times was Scotty Pippen an NBA in the finals when he played with Jordan Okay, it's nothing against him.

He plays for the Celtics and they got to the finals and they won and Jalen Brown was the MVP. How many times was Scotty Pippen an NBA in the finals when he played with Jordan Okay, it's nothing against him.

I like him.

I like him.

I think there's an argument he's a top five or six player in the NBA. I have always seen him closer to eighth than second or third. But I like him, and it's not hate. But if you're making the claim that somebody is the face of Hollywood. Everybody got to know who you are when they walk into the theater. That guy that won the Oscar last night Best Actor, ninety percent of Americans don't know who he is. Tom Cruise walks into every room in America. You know who he is. That's a movie star. The guy that won last night's a really talented actor. So Face of the League is the NBA's version.

I think there's an argument he's a top five or six player in the NBA. I have always seen him closer to eighth than second or third. But I like him, and it's not hate. But if you're making the claim that somebody is the face of Hollywood. Everybody got to know who you are when they walk into the theater. That guy that won the Oscar last night Best Actor, ninety percent of Americans don't know who he is. Tom Cruise walks into every room in America. You know who he is. That's a movie star. The guy that won last night's a really talented actor. So Face of the League is the NBA's version.

Of movie star.

Of movie star.

Eastern Conference Finals last year Finals. Last year, Jalen Brown was the MVP of both bruh. I don't care how many points he scored. Quentin Grimes dropped a forty burger last week. Okay, ten guys scored over forty. Dominique did over forty sixty one times. James Harden let the NBA and scoring three times. Tatum has many of the qualities necessary. He wants to be it. He went to Duke. He's a great kid, excellent NBA player, Celtics. But there's an aura thing and a clutch thing. You can't give me two in the Olympic gold medal game and be a DNP against Serbia and be.

Eastern Conference Finals last year Finals. Last year, Jalen Brown was the MVP of both bruh. I don't care how many points he scored. Quentin Grimes dropped a forty burger last week. Okay, ten guys scored over forty. Dominique did over forty sixty one times. James Harden let the NBA and scoring three times. Tatum has many of the qualities necessary. He wants to be it. He went to Duke. He's a great kid, excellent NBA player, Celtics. But there's an aura thing and a clutch thing. You can't give me two in the Olympic gold medal game and be a DNP against Serbia and be.

Faith of the league. It doesn't work that way.

Faith of the league. It doesn't work that way.

All right, you can't do straight to video movies and be the faith of Hollywood.

All right, you can't do straight to video movies and be the faith of Hollywood.

Okay, I don't go to a theater anymore. You know who gets me to a theater? Two people, Christopher Nolan the director and Tom Cruisey actor.

Okay, I don't go to a theater anymore. You know who gets me to a theater? Two people, Christopher Nolan the director and Tom Cruisey actor.

That's it, Matt Damon all consider, I'm telling out there, does not many get me there? So you can't be a DNP against Serbia and a new rule on the show.

That's it, Matt Damon all consider, I'm telling out there, does not many get me there? So you can't be a DNP against Serbia and a new rule on the show.

If you want to be a face of the league.

If you want to be a face of the league.

There can never be a DNP in a big game unless you have like a broken kneecap, and even then, and I'm watching to wobble out there like Willis Reid or MJ Flugate. Yeah, DNP coaches decision not acceptable and I like him.

There can never be a DNP in a big game unless you have like a broken kneecap, and even then, and I'm watching to wobble out there like Willis Reid or MJ Flugate. Yeah, DNP coaches decision not acceptable and I like him.

J Mack with the.

J Mack with the.

News, No, no, turn on the news. This is the herd Line news. What what?

News, No, no, turn on the news. This is the herd Line news. What what?

What are you upset with? The Quentin grime slander?

What are you upset with? The Quentin grime slander?

I need to I need to apologize to the audience for muttering some F bombs under my breath during that ramp. I mean, geez, Colin, what twenty five minutes into a Monday show and you're going off on tatom.

I need to I need to apologize to the audience for muttering some F bombs under my breath during that ramp. I mean, geez, Colin, what twenty five minutes into a Monday show and you're going off on tatom.

I'm upset.

I'm upset.

I am upset sometimes honesty hurt a little.

I am upset sometimes honesty hurt a little.

Okay, all right, let's go to the Cowboys Michael Parsons. There's discussions about a new deal in Dallas. Parsons is headed in the last season of his five year contract, schedule to make twenty four mil next season. A lot of people are assuming Parsons is gonna demand, not ask for, demand more than Nick Posa's thirty four mil will make well, which will make in me NFL's highest paid pass rusher.

Okay, all right, let's go to the Cowboys Michael Parsons. There's discussions about a new deal in Dallas. Parsons is headed in the last season of his five year contract, schedule to make twenty four mil next season. A lot of people are assuming Parsons is gonna demand, not ask for, demand more than Nick Posa's thirty four mil will make well, which will make in me NFL's highest paid pass rusher.

Colin Can they possibly.

Colin Can they possibly.

Have the highest paid pass rusher and highest paid quarterback and even contend.

Have the highest paid pass rusher and highest paid quarterback and even contend.

For a player?

For a player?

No, no, again, this is no again. Congratulations I again. Micah Parsons, Jason Tatum absolutely great players, but that they're they're They're not the people I'm relying on in the biggest games, right Ceedee, Lamb is gonna have to carry in big games because that's what the league is now. Okay, Kansas City's great defense couldn't stop Philadelphia. Nobody can stop anybody at the end of the year. So again, there's a handful of pass rushers. Max Crosby, I would absolutely pay, Miles Garrett, I would absolutely pay by TJ Watt. Mica is the next level by Bosa in San Francisco. But I like folk Bosa, but in big games, let's be honest, playoff games, he was not a game wrecker. He just was not a difference maker in a couple of big playoff games.

No, no, again, this is no again. Congratulations I again. Micah Parsons, Jason Tatum absolutely great players, but that they're they're They're not the people I'm relying on in the biggest games, right Ceedee, Lamb is gonna have to carry in big games because that's what the league is now. Okay, Kansas City's great defense couldn't stop Philadelphia. Nobody can stop anybody at the end of the year. So again, there's a handful of pass rushers. Max Crosby, I would absolutely pay, Miles Garrett, I would absolutely pay by TJ Watt. Mica is the next level by Bosa in San Francisco. But I like folk Bosa, but in big games, let's be honest, playoff games, he was not a game wrecker. He just was not a difference maker in a couple of big playoff games.

Here we go with the chart of the highest paid non quarterbacks in the league.

Here we go with the chart of the highest paid non quarterbacks in the league.

I can't put him in that class. I can't.

I can't put him in that class. I can't.

I like Michael Parses a lot, So I just don't know that this Dallas model is sustainable. What they're doing after paying Dak and now Micah, and now you're basically tapped out. What are they going to do in free agency? What did Jerry Jones say last year, We're all in and then they did nothing. I don't I don't think they're going to have an opportunity to annie up in free agency.

I like Michael Parses a lot, So I just don't know that this Dallas model is sustainable. What they're doing after paying Dak and now Micah, and now you're basically tapped out. What are they going to do in free agency? What did Jerry Jones say last year, We're all in and then they did nothing. I don't I don't think they're going to have an opportunity to annie up in free agency.

And they need a.

And they need a.

Lot of guys.

Lot of guys.

So much of this league, so much of professional sports, but especially the NFL, because players have a more impact in the NBA. So much of the NFL is not signing a contract. It's knowing when to walk away from a good player.

So much of this league, so much of professional sports, but especially the NFL, because players have a more impact in the NBA. So much of the NFL is not signing a contract. It's knowing when to walk away from a good player.

But he's not game changing.

But he's not game changing.

Micah is a very good player, but he is not Miles Garrett. He's not Von Miller, in his prime. He is not Max Crosby. So this this league isn't about. I mean, everybody that should get paid gets paid. You know, example is the Niners. We got enough weapons here. They figured out it's time to walk with Deebo. And I like Deebo and you like him, but Miami Jimmy Butler and I'll get to this, but but but Miami's like, we like Jimmy Butler, but for us now it doesn't make sense and we'll have to rebuild it. And I just think Micah to me is if you're gonna make him highest paid pass rush and Dak is now a ninety million dollar cap hit, you can't have two guys that are top of the league in their contract.

Micah is a very good player, but he is not Miles Garrett. He's not Von Miller, in his prime. He is not Max Crosby. So this this league isn't about. I mean, everybody that should get paid gets paid. You know, example is the Niners. We got enough weapons here. They figured out it's time to walk with Deebo. And I like Deebo and you like him, but Miami Jimmy Butler and I'll get to this, but but but Miami's like, we like Jimmy Butler, but for us now it doesn't make sense and we'll have to rebuild it. And I just think Micah to me is if you're gonna make him highest paid pass rush and Dak is now a ninety million dollar cap hit, you can't have two guys that are top of the league in their contract.

You cannot do it well.

You cannot do it well.

The only different Deebo a little older, Jimmy Butler a little older. Michah Parsons is just entering his prime. He's turned in twenty.

The only different Deebo a little older, Jimmy Butler a little older. Michah Parsons is just entering his prime. He's turned in twenty.

Six here in NY. I don't know what that signals to the fan base in the locker room. If you get off of the Michael Parson like.

Six here in NY. I don't know what that signals to the fan base in the locker room. If you get off of the Michael Parson like.

Who cares you gotta have?

Who cares you gotta have?

What do you mean? Who cares?

What do you mean? Who cares?

You know? What it saying?

You know? What it saying?

You want an empty Jerry Dome next time, Cowboys.

You want an empty Jerry Dome next time, Cowboys.

Will alos get Cowboys are like Ohio State football and Duke basketball. They'll sell tickets. If not the secondary market, they'll sell tickets. People will go to watch them around the country if the tickets are cheap.

Will alos get Cowboys are like Ohio State football and Duke basketball. They'll sell tickets. If not the secondary market, they'll sell tickets. People will go to watch them around the country if the tickets are cheap.

The question is that.

The question is that.

In a week draft, what do you get for Micah And the answer is a first round pick. You have got to figure out very quickly because of what you're paying Dak. You've got to figure out a way to get cheaper labor. I mean that like I say, you can pay them homes, but you have to move off Tyreek Hill. Like you have to make very tough decisions. You'll keep Chris Jones, you'll keep Travis Kelcey, and you don't have to pay tight ends what you have to be star receivers, so once you pay the quarterback. These are hard, tough decisions that your fan base may not like.

In a week draft, what do you get for Micah And the answer is a first round pick. You have got to figure out very quickly because of what you're paying Dak. You've got to figure out a way to get cheaper labor. I mean that like I say, you can pay them homes, but you have to move off Tyreek Hill. Like you have to make very tough decisions. You'll keep Chris Jones, you'll keep Travis Kelcey, and you don't have to pay tight ends what you have to be star receivers, so once you pay the quarterback. These are hard, tough decisions that your fan base may not like.

Not easy. Next up is the franchise tag.

Not easy. Next up is the franchise tag.

Deadline is four pm tomorrow four pm Eastern Tuesday, and reports out of Minnesota are saying the Vikings are unlikely to use the franchise tag on Sam Donald. That should surprise nobody. If they don't tag him, he would be a highly sought after free agent. The tag would mean Darnald makes forty one mill If they cannot find a trade partner, that would eat two thirds of Minnesota's projected salary caps face, which is around sixty one million dollars. I think the Vikings are hoping that Donald gets a good deal somewhere else. I do not see him returning now unless McCarthy's banged up and we don't know what was it a me he is?

Deadline is four pm tomorrow four pm Eastern Tuesday, and reports out of Minnesota are saying the Vikings are unlikely to use the franchise tag on Sam Donald. That should surprise nobody. If they don't tag him, he would be a highly sought after free agent. The tag would mean Darnald makes forty one mill If they cannot find a trade partner, that would eat two thirds of Minnesota's projected salary caps face, which is around sixty one million dollars. I think the Vikings are hoping that Donald gets a good deal somewhere else. I do not see him returning now unless McCarthy's banged up and we don't know what was it a me he is?

Well, I mean, you have two teams now, unless the Raiders Chaduere Sanders. I don't you know, people can say what they.

Well, I mean, you have two teams now, unless the Raiders Chaduere Sanders. I don't you know, people can say what they.

Want about shaduor Sanders.

Want about shaduor Sanders.

I have a hard time believing he's going to be available to the Raiders or the Jets. No, I just I have a hot I don't know what you did in your mock draft. Where'd you have him going?

I have a hard time believing he's going to be available to the Raiders or the Jets. No, I just I have a hot I don't know what you did in your mock draft. Where'd you have him going?

Talk about that in like two minutes?

Talk about that in like two minutes?

Okay?

Okay?

So I just think Sam Donald's going to have a market, and the market is probably the Las Vegas Raiders. That's what it feels like. I think Minnesota's did all they can. I think Minnesota I think the Vikings essentially did Sam Donald a favor that they they know they're not bringing him back, but they're doing him a solid. What the message they're sending to the league is Kevin O'Connell, who's a brilliant offensive coach, is having a hard time figuring out if he can let Sam Donald go. I think Kevin's already made a decision. But I think they're doing a solid for Sam Donald because Sam was so much better than they thought he was gonna be, and he got them, you know, a playoffs, and they love them and they love the great kids. So I think Minnesota, they're GM and their head coach really respected, are are doing a solid to Sam Donald. We love this guy and we don't know what in the hell to do. They've already made their decisions and this will elevate Donald from forty million to maybe forty eight to fifty million.

So I just think Sam Donald's going to have a market, and the market is probably the Las Vegas Raiders. That's what it feels like. I think Minnesota's did all they can. I think Minnesota I think the Vikings essentially did Sam Donald a favor that they they know they're not bringing him back, but they're doing him a solid. What the message they're sending to the league is Kevin O'Connell, who's a brilliant offensive coach, is having a hard time figuring out if he can let Sam Donald go. I think Kevin's already made a decision. But I think they're doing a solid for Sam Donald because Sam was so much better than they thought he was gonna be, and he got them, you know, a playoffs, and they love them and they love the great kids. So I think Minnesota, they're GM and their head coach really respected, are are doing a solid to Sam Donald. We love this guy and we don't know what in the hell to do. They've already made their decisions and this will elevate Donald from forty million to maybe forty eight to fifty million.

I keep thinking the New York Giants could be in play, but remember Daniel Jones ended up in Minnesota.

I keep thinking the New York Giants could be in play, but remember Daniel Jones ended up in Minnesota.

Do you think Donald talked to Daniel Jones? Hey, what's life like with that Giants franchise?

Do you think Donald talked to Daniel Jones? Hey, what's life like with that Giants franchise?

And Daniel Jones, who kind of got shafted this season although he's stunt, probably was letting Sam Donald know it's a dysfunctional mess.

And Daniel Jones, who kind of got shafted this season although he's stunt, probably was letting Sam Donald know it's a dysfunctional mess.

Don't go there.

Don't go there.

Now.

Now.

If you say forty five million, I'm sure he's gonna goe. But do you see the Giants as a landings buffer?

If you say forty five million, I'm sure he's gonna goe. But do you see the Giants as a landings buffer?

Dark? Well again, Las Vegas, no state tax, New York City. The bottom line is I take five million less a year and go to the Raiders with Heete Carroll, Chip, Kelly rock Bowers. I would go to the Raiders over the Giants. And by the way, playing indoors, he's played outdoors in crappy weather.

Dark? Well again, Las Vegas, no state tax, New York City. The bottom line is I take five million less a year and go to the Raiders with Heete Carroll, Chip, Kelly rock Bowers. I would go to the Raiders over the Giants. And by the way, playing indoors, he's played outdoors in crappy weather.

Tougher division. Obviously, I don't think.

Tougher division. Obviously, I don't think.

You got you know what, as Pete Carroll's telling his staff, you gotta play those guys anywhere in the years.

You got you know what, as Pete Carroll's telling his staff, you gotta play those guys anywhere in the years.

And it's not like Eagles in Washington who look like a beast. Those are those are not easy. Final story, Colin is a mock draft.

And it's not like Eagles in Washington who look like a beast. Those are those are not easy. Final story, Colin is a mock draft.

Are you ready? Mock draft? Three point zero?

Are you ready? Mock draft? Three point zero?

Cam Ward one, shdu or two. I had Travis Hunter going four to the Patriots. How about my guy Tyler Warren, a tight end from Penn State to the Jets.

Cam Ward one, shdu or two. I had Travis Hunter going four to the Patriots. How about my guy Tyler Warren, a tight end from Penn State to the Jets.

Oh, I would love that. By the way, Jets are going to be moving off DeVante Adams. We'll get to that later. Your guy t Mac eight to the Panthers.

Oh, I would love that. By the way, Jets are going to be moving off DeVante Adams. We'll get to that later. Your guy t Mac eight to the Panthers.

And Interestingly, offensive linemen had a pretty amazing weekend.

And Interestingly, offensive linemen had a pretty amazing weekend.

At the Combine.

At the Combine.

I don't know how hill Will Campbell came in short arms.

I don't know how hill Will Campbell came in short arms.

Yeah, they think.

Yeah, they think.

Everything else looks really good for wiki.

Everything else looks really good for wiki.

I gotta tell you, I don't watch as much Combine as I used to, but I still watch it. My takeaway is a couple of the One of the Texas received had a.

I gotta tell you, I don't watch as much Combine as I used to, but I still watch it. My takeaway is a couple of the One of the Texas received had a.

Golden Yep, he's down there at a twenty eight to Bolton.

Golden Yep, he's down there at a twenty eight to Bolton.

Yeah, I thought golden. He is a first round pick.

Yeah, I thought golden. He is a first round pick.

Nine Yeah, And I also think Will Howard had a bad weekend.

Nine Yeah, And I also think Will Howard had a bad weekend.

Oh not.

Oh not.

I don't know if we're gonna put him on blast and show the video book. I mean he missed like every single downstill. Yeah. Yeah, and he's not throwing to superstar receivers anymore. But he did not look like a potential quarterback. I had Ashton genty going twenty two, and basically online, you know, the mondraft.

I don't know if we're gonna put him on blast and show the video book. I mean he missed like every single downstill. Yeah. Yeah, and he's not throwing to superstar receivers anymore. But he did not look like a potential quarterback. I had Ashton genty going twenty two, and basically online, you know, the mondraft.

Goes up there.

Goes up there.

More people were outraged Tod genty going twenty two than any other pick in the first round.

More people were outraged Tod genty going twenty two than any other pick in the first round.

Lie, they think he's a top ten.

Lie, they think he's a top ten.

Los gay time out folks. Folks.

Los gay time out folks. Folks.

It is the deepest running back draft in a decade. There are guys that I watched, and I'd given the USC kid what he marks is the best USC back since Reggie Bush, and people love him.

It is the deepest running back draft in a decade. There are guys that I watched, and I'd given the USC kid what he marks is the best USC back since Reggie Bush, and people love him.

I've talked to two gms who love him.

I've talked to two gms who love him.

He's like twenty four.

He's like twenty four.

I think they have him going late third and he's ninety percent of those first round backs.

I think they have him going late third and he's ninety percent of those first round backs.

Like, this is not a year that you have to reach at running back.

Like, this is not a year that you have to reach at running back.

And I like gent Small and I think he'll be a productive NFL running back.

And I like gent Small and I think he'll be a productive NFL running back.

I'm not denying that, but if.

I'm not denying that, but if.

You need a running back, this is a draft the way you could get one in the second third.

You need a running back, this is a draft the way you could get one in the second third.

Listen that North Carolina kid, Dampton.

Listen that North Carolina kid, Dampton.

I had him at thirty going to the Eagle.

I had him at thirty going to the Eagle.

Okay, I'm not I saw that. That's why I saw that. I'm not so sure he's not the better player.

Okay, I'm not I saw that. That's why I saw that. I'm not so sure he's not the better player.

I mean he's he's young, he's super tough. I mean that kid runs. You know some of these running backs. You're right, this is a monster year for backs, and we saw a resurgence in the NFL running back. I think teams are going to be drafting them. You're, like you said, probably six in the so.

I mean he's he's young, he's super tough. I mean that kid runs. You know some of these running backs. You're right, this is a monster year for backs, and we saw a resurgence in the NFL running back. I think teams are going to be drafting them. You're, like you said, probably six in the so.

I talked to a Super Bowl winning general manager this weekend. Remember we had we talked to rose for me.

I talked to a Super Bowl winning general manager this weekend. Remember we had we talked to rose for me.

No, it wasn't.

No, it wasn't.

Howie, very respected guy, and uh I asked him a few questions. I asked him about t Mac. That receiver it from Arizona, who people are cooling on. He said, uh, he's very good. So just keep your eye on the receiver from Arizona.

Howie, very respected guy, and uh I asked him a few questions. I asked him about t Mac. That receiver it from Arizona, who people are cooling on. He said, uh, he's very good. So just keep your eye on the receiver from Arizona.

Anytime you hear people cooling on somebody. Yeah, why would you put that out there so people aren't on the scent? That kid is immensely talented.

Anytime you hear people cooling on somebody. Yeah, why would you put that out there so people aren't on the scent? That kid is immensely talented.

Listen, I think it's close between him and Travis Hunter in terms of wide receiver skill.

Listen, I think it's close between him and Travis Hunter in terms of wide receiver skill.

Watch some tam Ac dude.

Watch some tam Ac dude.

He's Travis Hunter, I know is super talented, but this kid, t Mac is a monster.

He's Travis Hunter, I know is super talented, but this kid, t Mac is a monster.

All right.

All right.

J Mack with the news.

J Mack with the news.

Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the herd Line News.

Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the herd Line News.

Okay, So I saw a discussion and I heard a comment this weekend. So Travis Hunter is a terrific player. He's gonna play wide receiver and corner in the NFL. And he said he thinks playing both ways in the NFL is much harder than what show hey Otani is doing in Major League Baseball. And I've I've got some thoughts on that coming up next Colin Wright, Colin Wrong, more importantly, Jimmy Johnson, top of Next Hour Live in La.

Okay, So I saw a discussion and I heard a comment this weekend. So Travis Hunter is a terrific player. He's gonna play wide receiver and corner in the NFL. And he said he thinks playing both ways in the NFL is much harder than what show hey Otani is doing in Major League Baseball. And I've I've got some thoughts on that coming up next Colin Wright, Colin Wrong, more importantly, Jimmy Johnson, top of Next Hour Live in La.

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No, that's interesting, I may go to that one. So Travis Hunter is a really good player. He plays for Colorado. He's gonna get drafted top ten somewhere. He plays wide receiver and he plays cornerback, the position that guards wide receiver. And he said this weekend that is harder than doing what Show hay Otani is doing, which is pitching in baseball and hitting in baseball. So let's start with this first of all, show Heyo Tani isn't just pitching in baseball.

No, that's interesting, I may go to that one. So Travis Hunter is a really good player. He plays for Colorado. He's gonna get drafted top ten somewhere. He plays wide receiver and he plays cornerback, the position that guards wide receiver. And he said this weekend that is harder than doing what Show hay Otani is doing, which is pitching in baseball and hitting in baseball. So let's start with this first of all, show Heyo Tani isn't just pitching in baseball.

He was the.

He was the.

Starting pitcher for the American League in an All Star Game. What Show Hayotani is doing, if it was football, is playing quarterback and Mike linebacker. Pitching in baseball isn't just splitting out wide throwing me the ball. You can't get batters out in Major League baseball because you have good cardio. Pitching is a craft. It has developed over a decade, multiple pitching coaches.

Starting pitcher for the American League in an All Star Game. What Show Hayotani is doing, if it was football, is playing quarterback and Mike linebacker. Pitching in baseball isn't just splitting out wide throwing me the ball. You can't get batters out in Major League baseball because you have good cardio. Pitching is a craft. It has developed over a decade, multiple pitching coaches.

It's like golf.

It's like golf.

You got a bunch of clubs in your bag, and if you have any weakness, you can't pitch at the major league level, and you can't play on the tour driver five wood putter. All have to be elite or you're not a tour player in Major League baseball. Velocity, control, off speed, closing pitch, everything matters. A cornerback in football, as they say, is a wide receiver that can't catch.

You got a bunch of clubs in your bag, and if you have any weakness, you can't pitch at the major league level, and you can't play on the tour driver five wood putter. All have to be elite or you're not a tour player in Major League baseball. Velocity, control, off speed, closing pitch, everything matters. A cornerback in football, as they say, is a wide receiver that can't catch.

And a cornerback and a.

And a cornerback and a.

Wide receiver share a lot of the same skills twitchiness, good hips, elite speed. Now again, not many people are great at it, but they share a lot of qualities. Okay, pitcher in Major League baseball and hit her in Major League baseball. Don't go ask Tim Tebow about baseball, Go ask MJ about baseball. Patrick Mahomes had one appearance as a college baseball starter. He got run. He got run by the way. Dion Sanders was considered a rare historic two way player. He hit two sixty in the BIGS. That's what he hit, two sixty. So don't kid yourself on show. What Shohil Dohni is doing is like Babe Ruth on HGH, like it's a totally different ballgame. There are certain things, you know, I've said this before, there are certain things in sports that are just way harder than people think. Every guy with a four handicap er last probably thinks, you know what, I'm a good weekend away from making the tour.

Wide receiver share a lot of the same skills twitchiness, good hips, elite speed. Now again, not many people are great at it, but they share a lot of qualities. Okay, pitcher in Major League baseball and hit her in Major League baseball. Don't go ask Tim Tebow about baseball, Go ask MJ about baseball. Patrick Mahomes had one appearance as a college baseball starter. He got run. He got run by the way. Dion Sanders was considered a rare historic two way player. He hit two sixty in the BIGS. That's what he hit, two sixty. So don't kid yourself on show. What Shohil Dohni is doing is like Babe Ruth on HGH, like it's a totally different ballgame. There are certain things, you know, I've said this before, there are certain things in sports that are just way harder than people think. Every guy with a four handicap er last probably thinks, you know what, I'm a good weekend away from making the tour.

No, you're not.

No, you're not.

No, you're not.

No, you're not.

If you don't if you go listen to Phil Mickelson talk about golf, If you don't have every single club in your bag down, how do you play it in rain, high altitude, late afternoon. You have to be an expert at every club in Major League Baseball. You got to have everything dialed in to be a great Major League baseball pitcher. I'm not saying Travis couldn't be a very good receiver and a very good corner. I'm not saying that the corner and wide receiver share many of the same skills. That is just a disrespect for how hard baseball is. I mean, for most of my life they said the hardest thing to do in sports was at a baseball It may be harder. Now go look at the MLB batting stats because now every pitcher feels like they're six to seven and.

If you don't if you go listen to Phil Mickelson talk about golf, If you don't have every single club in your bag down, how do you play it in rain, high altitude, late afternoon. You have to be an expert at every club in Major League Baseball. You got to have everything dialed in to be a great Major League baseball pitcher. I'm not saying Travis couldn't be a very good receiver and a very good corner. I'm not saying that the corner and wide receiver share many of the same skills. That is just a disrespect for how hard baseball is. I mean, for most of my life they said the hardest thing to do in sports was at a baseball It may be harder. Now go look at the MLB batting stats because now every pitcher feels like they're six to seven and.

Throws ninety eight.

Throws ninety eight.

Look at how a few guys in Major League Baseball hit three ten or over. I mean it is like I don't have it in front of me. Look at any Major League Baseball teams. These are great players. Team averages are under two sixty five. I think it's a majority of the teams, so that's not close. What Shohey is doing is historic. What Travis could do potentially is really cool.

Look at how a few guys in Major League Baseball hit three ten or over. I mean it is like I don't have it in front of me. Look at any Major League Baseball teams. These are great players. Team averages are under two sixty five. I think it's a majority of the teams, so that's not close. What Shohey is doing is historic. What Travis could do potentially is really cool.

But it's easier. Okay, so I.

But it's easier. Okay, so I.

Oh, by the way, Mahomes was a reliever in college, not a starter. He still wasn't any good. So this weekend, I think the combine is kind of important, but Sean McVay doesn't go, so it can't be that important. It's not to be all end all, but if you're you can pop and absolutely go from a second rounder to a first rounder. And you can also have a really really bad combine and go from maybe fourth rounder to sixth rounder. That was Will Howard this weekend, the quarterback for Ohio State.

Oh, by the way, Mahomes was a reliever in college, not a starter. He still wasn't any good. So this weekend, I think the combine is kind of important, but Sean McVay doesn't go, so it can't be that important. It's not to be all end all, but if you're you can pop and absolutely go from a second rounder to a first rounder. And you can also have a really really bad combine and go from maybe fourth rounder to sixth rounder. That was Will Howard this weekend, the quarterback for Ohio State.

He really struggled.

He really struggled.

Now, I think Will Howard, I said before the combine, feels like a fifth rounder.

Now, I think Will Howard, I said before the combine, feels like a fifth rounder.

He may be a sixth rounder. But here's the thing that jumps out to me.

He may be a sixth rounder. But here's the thing that jumps out to me.

Joe Burrow is one of the only examples of a college quarterback that played with a stack roster and then went to the NFL and year after year after year after year after a year, no doubt, is a top ten quarterback top three. One of the reasons I like Shadur Sanders because he got the crap beat out of m Colorado. No run game, awful offensive line, always trailing, basically had to create his own offense. Will Howard at Ohio State think about this, completed sixty one percent of his throws at Kansas State. He goes to Ohio State, a much better conference and complete seventy three percent. Did he get that much better in the year. No, it's called Chip Kelly, It's called two NFL running backs. I mean, Shaduur Sanders had no run game. Will Howard had two NFL running backs. Go look at the receivers Ohio State had. Jeremiah Smith would be number one pick he was in this draft, number one pick. Okay Imika Abuka, the receiver would be the number one receiver on NFL teams. He was the second best receiver for Ohio State. And this is not a knock on Will Howard. I thought it was a I don't see him as a franchise quarterback. I think he's a really good backup again, moves pretty well. Big kid did not have a good day. But this is why I've said this before, that there's a reason that Miami of Ohio has a better all time quarterback historically than anybody that played at like Ohio.

Joe Burrow is one of the only examples of a college quarterback that played with a stack roster and then went to the NFL and year after year after year after year after a year, no doubt, is a top ten quarterback top three. One of the reasons I like Shadur Sanders because he got the crap beat out of m Colorado. No run game, awful offensive line, always trailing, basically had to create his own offense. Will Howard at Ohio State think about this, completed sixty one percent of his throws at Kansas State. He goes to Ohio State, a much better conference and complete seventy three percent. Did he get that much better in the year. No, it's called Chip Kelly, It's called two NFL running backs. I mean, Shaduur Sanders had no run game. Will Howard had two NFL running backs. Go look at the receivers Ohio State had. Jeremiah Smith would be number one pick he was in this draft, number one pick. Okay Imika Abuka, the receiver would be the number one receiver on NFL teams. He was the second best receiver for Ohio State. And this is not a knock on Will Howard. I thought it was a I don't see him as a franchise quarterback. I think he's a really good backup again, moves pretty well. Big kid did not have a good day. But this is why I've said this before, that there's a reason that Miami of Ohio has a better all time quarterback historically than anybody that played at like Ohio.

State or Alabama or USC.