Hour 1 - The Lakers keep doing this

Published Feb 12, 2025, 9:39 PM

Colin looks forward to Luka Doncic's second game as a Laker and can't believe this franchise found a way to land another young superstar

He outlines the issues the Chiefs have on offense as they look to return to Super Bowl contention and Travis Kelce considering retirement

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There wasn't a feeling prior to this trade that the Lakers were headed to the Western Conference finals, and now you can make that case.

I think there's a lane there.

I still wouldn't call them the favorite in the West, but I definitely think it's going to be interesting.

And just that.

Idea that if they wanted to, the Lakers could play either Luca or for forty eight straight minutes often both of them is crazy.

Yeah, it's more than that. Lakers lebron Luca again Game two together, this time in Salt Lake. So uh, you know, super Bowls always resonate. One thing we do know in the last decade, if you lose a Super Bowl, no matter how good your quarterback is, there's only one exception, and that was the Patriots. Once that you go back and you crush again. Everybody pulls back if they lose a Super Bowl. They get to the Super Bowl, they lose, they don't get back. It's just the way it is. And Travis Kelcey was on his podcast with his brother, and you know, he kind of disappeared last couple of games. He has been their number one target last three four years or longer, and he's just a very important person. He blocks, he's tough, the physicality, the temperament. But it may be time to quit retire.

I know everybody wants to know whether out on play next year and right now, I'm just kicking everything down the road. I'm kicking every can I can down the road, and I'm not making any crazy decisions. The fact that we keep going to these AFC Championships and these Super Bowls, and that means I'm playing the extra three games more than everybody else in the in the entire league. And that's a lot of wear and tear on your body, and it's a lot of time spent in the building.

Yeah, we've said this about Lebron. Lebron's played over three full seasons of just playoff games. You start looking at Travis Kelcey in the last seven years, he's played another season of NFL football for playoff games. And we ask our tight ends the block often the best athlete on the other side of the field. So let's be honest about Kansas City's offense. Remember when Tom Brady got to the end of New England and there was that piece of video him screaming. It was a maybe I've been a Thursday night game or a Sunday night game. He's screaming at his wide receivers. Somebody get open. But New England was unable because they were other players, including Brady and they didn't draft wide receivers well. So if you really are honest about Kansas City, in the last three years, they've kind of been patchwork on offense. I mean, all five Super Bowl trips have had five different left tackles. They've never had a great left tackle. Patchwork. The wide receivers in the last three Super Bowls, Richie James, McCole, Hardman, Sky Moore, Kadarius Tony, Marquis Valden, Scandling here kind of bounce around the NFL guys, that's all they are. They don't have a ton of stability at running back. I mean, we're doing Kareem Hunt again. Isaiah Pacheco is a great story. Is he a great player? Clyde Edwards Hilaire was a bust. There are warning signs here now. Some of it is Mahomes is super expensive, Travis Kelsey super expensive, Chris Jones super expensive. They have a very good GM and they draft well. But if you remember in the end Tom Brady in New England, Tom Brady was sort of holding that offense up with duct tape. And after I'm watching that game against Philadelphia and the game again, it's only Buffalo. They always score thirty five points or more. You start looking Buffalo's defense. The top corner was out. We don't consider it an elite defense. We don't we consider the offense with Josh Allen and James Cook and Kincaid. That's the part of the Bills that is elite. You just start looking at this team when they played good defenses like Houston and Philadelphia. They got a bunch of b dudes. It's the Brady Patriots at the end. You're just holding it together. It's patchwork guys everywhere. And again, I'll go to the Super Bowl runner up. Since twenty fourteen Patriots won the Super Bowl, you've got four different teams missed the playoffs. You got teams losing wild card and divisional round stuff. So I think it's pretty clear. And when you draft thirty first in a very very weak draft, where draft people who I lean on say there are twelve, maybe thirteen max elite first round players, Kansas City's getting none of them. And they need one at left tackle, they need another one at tight end, they need another one at running back, and by the way, they need another interior offensive lineman. They gotta spend some time in capital on that offensive line that got pushed around for four hours against Philadelphia. So my take on Travis Kelsey has been this is the perfect time for a clean break. He's got tons of money, lots of options, and I think one of the mistakes basketball football teams do is they cling to the end. You could say, well, what about Lebron. Lebron's still elite. Lebron's still a top seven player in the league. There are nights he's a top pre player in the league. There's knights that he's the best player in the NBA still depending on the schedule. So to me, this feels like it's time for a clean break. He's expensive, he's a tight end. This is a good tight end draft. If they were gonna move up and be aggressive outside of left tackle, it'd be for tight end. But J Mack, when you lose those Super Bowls and you lose the way they did, it is interesting. It does change your opinion on stuff. Now you called it, you said it was going to be a D line rolling over Kansas City. I did not. But it's funny two or three days later, you know it sounds like, oh, it's kind of a recency bias. But when you lose like that. It does change your opinion on a lot of things.

You know, there's a clip of Travis Kelce. You're right right around the forty eight yard line near midfield, and he runs a little bit of the pass pattern and then just sits at the forty eight yard line because he saw a flag like, does not engage in the rest of the play and Chiefs fans are kind of ticked off online. Patrick Mahons is scrambling for his life and Travis Kelce's literally just standing there. And Colin, I know this isn't right to say, but do you think the Chiefs quit a little bit in the Super Bowl when they were down twenty four to nothing.

Oh, the body language wasn't good. They started making really dumb mistakes lining up off sides. Yeah, I think. You know, this is something else that the pressure of being number one. I remember listening to a baseball general manager fifteen years ago and he said, what you don't realize. He was talking about the Yankees. This was like fifteen when I lived on the East Coast. He said, what people don't realize about the Yankees because they're good every year in the playoffs. Every year you are taxing your bullpen. You're taxing your starters. It's an unnatural act to throw a ball ninety five miles an hour. He goes, these pitchers go into spring and you got to ramp it up again. He's like, we're playing twenty five more games than everybody else and they're intense national TV, high leverage situations. Now in football, you don't have an unnatural act. But you have to remember when you're going to Super Bowls year after year after year like the Patriots are doing, it beats up on your team. That's a tight end over the course of six years being tackled another one hundred times.

Okay, but hold on, Colin. Remember they didn't play their starters week EIGHTEAM. Then they had to buy It was like three weeks for Travis Kelcey and he had a good game against the Texans, but then played that they had to play the next week, did nothing against the Bills, got the bye week before the Super Bowl, and did nothing in the Super Bowl.

It looked like all the energy they had. You know, we always think Buffalo never beats Kansas City. They actually did two weeks earlier. Is that all the Chiefs energy went to beat Buffalo that's fair. They played a great game, they emptied the tank and they had nothing left. So let me ask Cooper Cup and the Rams are going to be parting ways. Cooper Cup, you know injuries.

Wear and tear, not really deliberate expense.

The Chiefs go that route with Travis kelce If you're if you're moving off Kelsey, you're saving money. Why would you bring in an older injury.

I don't mean bring in Cooper Cup. I just meant the way the Rams are moving off of him. Do the Chiefs say, hey, Travis, thank you for your service. Oh yeah, but that's it's a rap.

I think it is a rap. And that's okay. I think it's a rap. This is not the NBA where players control all those personnel decisions. I think it's a wrap. By the way, it's it's folks, We've all got eyes, we're all watching it. We're watching what's happening. It's the reality with Travis is it's been a remarkable career. But tight ends don't last forever. They're not quarterbacks, they're not kickers. This stuff ends quickly. I mean Travis Kelcey last year acknowledged he'd had ten surgeries.

Yeah, so they could look a lot different next year with no Travis Kelce.

Holy So I saw something yesterday that is I don't understand. I got an Aaron Rodgers story, I got a Kevin Durant story. But man, I saw a quote yesterday.

Do we all.

Understand what is happening to the biggest brand in America? And we'll talk about that.

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Greg Cosal of our Number two. I was thinking about something the other day. You get into these moments, it never feels like what I'm about to say is true. Is half the biggest brands in sports are hitting. Half the biggest brands in America are hitting, and then half are reeling or rebuilding or remodeling or rebooting. And I was just thinking about the biggest brands in sports, and let's just take a second to think about so like, if you go to Major League Baseball, you know the biggest brands Yankees and Dodgers. So I mean the Yankees just bringing in Paul Goldsmith, Cody Bellinger, Max Freed, they just got to a World Series for the first since two thousand and nine. They didn't get Soto, but they upgraded their pitching Dodgers. Meanwhile, I just I was looking at Jim Bowden article this morning. He thinks the Dodgers are the most improved team in the league and they just won a World Series. They have added all throughout their pitching staff. So the two biggest brands, the Yankees and the Dodgers, are humming in Major leig baseball. Let's go to the NBA. Listen, the Luca trade is an unbelievable reboot for the Lakers, and the Celtics are the best team in basketball. Golass the Knicks that have been run over steamrolled by him twice this year. But I would also put the Knicks as the third biggest brand. Forbes says it's the most valuable and this is the best Knicks team since nineteen ninety seven. And I like the team. I don't think they can beat Boston. I think they can beat everybody else in the league. So Boston Lakers, Knicks very very strong. Let's go to college football, very popular. Sport Ohio State just won to Natty. Michigan won the year before Notre Dame in Texas are exceptional to me. Those are the four biggest brands in college football. BAM is big in the South, not as big nationally. It's Ohio State, Michigan, Notre Dame in Texas. They are all hummon. Michigan pulled back last year, landed the number one quarterback in the country. They'll be good again and this year I think are they hosting Ohio State this year instead of going on the road. I don't know, but they'll be very, very good. Let's go to college basketball. Last fifteen years, Yukon and do Duke's got the number one player Yukon back to back titles. I mean, even non sports, if you look at stock prices, the three biggest brands to be in the in the nation, you can argue just the biggest brands in the country, Apple, Amazon, Coca Cola up year over year and those are about as big a brands as you have in America Coke, Apple, and Amazon. I mean, the only thing that's appears to be missing. Let me think about this. Oh, the Dallas Cowboys are awful. They are the only big, huge, massive brand in America that is awful, and they just had they just hired a coach and they've dumped it on a Friday news dump. And Dak Prescott said this yesterday at UH what do they say? The best problem, best way to correct a problem is to acknowledge you have a problem. So Stephen Jones about a month ago said drought. Remember he put it in quotes, drought like we're having a drought, spens, it's a drought. Jerry Jones said over the weekend, Hey, we could have been here and Dak Prescott talking about the Eagles and the Super Bowl going forward.

I'm not feel like we compete with the Eagles and beat them for the most part, and that we've played them. I don't want to say, check the record one that the guy's holding the trophy right now, so they're credit to them. They've learned and they deserved it by all means. But yeah, very close.

Okay, not quite acknowledging the issue. Could we think we can stack up with Philadelphia? You got two guys who could play ceede Lamb and Micah. I'm not sure anybody else gets on the field, and I'm dead serious. Zach Martin maybe, but I'm not sure. The Cowboys have two starters, two that start for Philadelphia and Phillies players. Many of the best ones are like rookies in the second year guys, they're getting better. So I was thinking about this for the record. It also shows you how powerful the NFL is. They just got one hundred and twenty seven million people to watch the Game of record, and Dallas is in the toilet. But I told the staff this morning, if you just went to the NFC, forget the Ravens, forget Harbond, the Chargers, forget the Chiefs, forget Buffalo, forget those teams. Houston, Let's just go to the NFC. If you told me next year the top ten teams in the NFC, I don't have Dallas in that. I think Philadelphia easily the best roster, Detroit second best roster, Aiden Hutchinson coming back. Rams aren't missing on draft picks of Stafford's days. They Green Bay and Washington with Jayden Daniels are a handful. The Niners will figure it out when Christian McCaffrey gets healthy. I don't think they're a top three or four team, but they'll get better. Minnesota and Seattle have too many good players, and I think I think Baker's better than DAK. I'll put them nine, and I do think Ben Johnson in Chicago's roster will make noise. I don't know if their playoff team. Dallas is not in the same class as Philadelphia, and from what I've seen with Jayden Daniels, they're not close to Washington. So if Shador Sanders landed with the Giant, I'm not so sure Dallas isn't a fourth place team. So yesterday, as some sort of a joke, I said the dynasty was dead in Kansas City, I had a little tombstone. Let's be honest, we have a real tombstone. Go ahead, but we can show the real tombstone. It's over. It's the last brand in American sports, I mean huge brand that is in the toilet, and it's not close Dak's second surgery. DAK is going to be the biggest salary cap hit in league history next year unless Jerry, who from what we can tell, is tapped, figures out a way to pay some of it. Early Jmack with the.

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It's amazing all the brands in this country, the big ones. Yeah, I mean so all the big sports brands.

It's been quite a fall for Dallas.

And let's start with another franchise that had a fall, and that's the forty nine. They pulled back after going to the Super Bowl, missed the playoffs, finished six and eleven.

They can blame injuries.

They don't have a completely n f GM, but heading into the offseason, owner Jed York is confident in the brain trust of their GM and head coach, saying there's no one I respect more and trust more than Lynch and Shanahan to get us back on track. Obviously, those two have to navigate this Brock Purty deal and Colin listen, there's a world where guys like Sam Darnold, Kirk Cousins, Aaron Rodgers, Russell Wilson, Matthew Stafford.

There's a lot of guy quarterbacks on the market.

I don't know if they're definitely gonna say, Brock, we're not paying you. We're gonna we're gonna roll the dice with Sam Darnold for two years.

This is gonna come down to Brock Purdy and his agent. If they are willing to accept a Daniel Jones contract, then I think he's the quarterback. If they try to argue they deserve a dack contract. You have to move on. This is not, by the way brock Purty and his agent think they have leverage. No, they don't. Well, next year is a very good quarterback draft out of college.

Timeout, But you've got to be awful to get one of the good quarterbacks. The forty nine ers aren't going to fall off the map.

Right will they they?

Well, do you have to be awful or do you have to be average? Draft about fourteenth? Give away a couple of picks to get your guy.

I don't like moving up. The Bryce Young deal soured me on trading. I remembers a lot of these quarterbacks. Mahomes went ten, Josh Allen didn't go number one. You start look at where did Justin Herbert go? Where did Jalen Hurts go?

The idea that all the best quarterbacks go in the top five is simply not true.

Okay, fair, but I guess the pushback would be there is looking at the landscape, only a handful of good quarterbacks in this league.

You could argue right now that twelve team zeed quarterbacks.

But the team, now that's an interesting topic. So over the last I think it's six to eight years We've had three different college drafts that have produced at least four franchise quarterbacks. Now, remember you and I grew up where everybody always talked about that one draft that at elwayn Marino eighty three. We've had three of those doubled in the last six seven years. Quarterback play is much better in high school in college. So next year is another year projected for four to five first round quarterback. This is a week year. Next year's back to four to five first round quarterbacks. Somebody's gonna go one, somebody will probably go three, somebody will go eight, somebody will go thirteen. Remember where did Michael just start looking around with these quarterbacks? Bow Knicks first year? What did he get? Drafted twelve or thirteen? So Lamar Jackson late first round, Patrick Mahomes ten. If you finish middle of the pack in the NFL next year the following draft, you will get a first round.

Quarterback one of those. I just listened to the three names you shot out. It was Mahomes, Lamar Jackson, and Bo Nicks. So the coaches Sean Payton, Andy Reid, Yes, and John Harbor.

I have three winning franchise.

A Hill smart Well, San Francisco's got Kyle Shanahan.

They do. But I thought you were out on him.

No, I'm not out on him, all right. I am out on this franchise. If you're trying to convince me, brock Purty is a sixty million dollar quarterback, you know, J Mack. There's a lot of things I like. I bought a car six months ago. I liked it for the price. Okay, cay, if i'd have paid double what I paid for my average A nice car, not spectacular, I liked it for the price. Everything's got a price. About six quarterbacks all pay top dollar. That's about it. Everybody else I'm looking for value.

How do you think rock Perty feels about that?

I'm not concerned a seventh round pick. He'll carry your franchise quarterback if you make forty million a year from a small town in Arizona and you're the last guy picked. Sometimes in life, don't don't try to get happier than happy. He's in a great spot. He inherited, he inherited, Trent Williams, Christian McCaffrey, George Kittle, Kyle Shanahan, a world class organization. Oh, he didn't get paid his first contract. That's your problem. You make forty million for four years, you'll never work again. Sorry.

But even though he sees his peer liked, how.

Would you feel if Sam Darnald got a bigger contract than him?

Sam Donald's first round quarterback? Who cares?

That was like eight years ago.

Bigger, stronger, more athletic. Doesn't struggle when it When it.

Struggle with it matters except Week eighteen in the playoffs.

Doesn't scial rock Perty dominated last year? He was great in the playoffs, coming fired up, drizzles.

Little disrespectful for my guy, rock Perty. I was cap up for him. I think we're going to revisit this at some point, all right. Next story, Colin is.

The Green Bay Packers have made the playoffs in both seasons with Jordan Love starting under center, but they still don't have a true number one target.

Now.

We heard Josh Jacobs last week say, hey, we could use a number one receiver. Now, Jordan Love was asked about adding a veteran like a DeVante Adams, and here's what he had to say.

You see it every week. I mean to play make an ability that he has when I was with him. I don't think I mean he might have dropped three passes in the years that I saw him. So he's just a phenomenal receiver. You know, create so much separation off the line, and you know that's that's his game. When you add those good players, you know, it's only going to help our offense.

I think.

And it's got to be the right guys, you know, the right fit for the group we have. And you know it's all about the mindset. You want guys that's gonna come in and want to win it and want to you know, push the envelope and do all the extra things.

Yeah, I think that's overrated.

What's going on in that lockerow? I don't two people from the offense though, calling out the wide receivers basically.

Well, Christian Watson is a little fragile, always hurt. But everybody else maybe they're young, little immature.

Dobs had the moment where he did not how to not get the ball and like got suspended, immature. Jaden Reid is awesome but doesn't show up every game, or maybe he could be skied out.

I don't have a problem going and buying like like T Higgins could fit. I don't think you have to spend a fortune, And again I like T Higgins depending on the price point. He's not a dominant player. He's a really good player when Jamar Chase is doubled. When Jamar Chase is doubled, and you get the second best corner. And very few teams outside the Jets have two great corners. So T Higginsway's face is the second best corner. Now you go to Green Bay. Oh, We're putting the best corner on you. It's a whole different ballgame. So you huh, I like T Higgins, Like I like my car. What's the price Jamar Chase, I'll break the bank, justin Jefferson, Mike Evans, I'll spend whatever. It's different sounds like.

So that's two stories here. Somebody's trying to go a little frugal.

Doesn't want to pay the players, the coastal elite coward does not want to pay the quarterback of the receiver. Final story is the NBA Collins listen man, look at this highlight ryer Joellebee game on the line.

Passes up and open three fumbles it in the look at this What is he doing?

By the way, what is he doing in the perimeter. You're off the base game.

He's off now he doesn't want to end. He said he needs another surgery. Cod This is he got boot off the shit the seconds left. Philly ended up losing to Low Lei Toronto Raptors were like tanking basically. Now it seems like they're gonna try to make the play in. The Sixers are a season worse, thirteen games under five hundred.

Yep. When you pander the players and they have injuries, egos, this is what you get. Nobody to blame but Philadelphia Embiid's been an issue for years. I don't know how. You watch the Olympics and watch how he struggled to fit in with the world's greatest players and came out of that Olympics thinking I really like this guy. This is the future of the franchise. That was a cautionary tale.

You remember when he went all into the MVP Award. Remember that he was like, I gotta get the MVV. He got it. He has not been the same player since. Man, he's constantly hurt.

It's like he went put all his energies into winning a freaking MVP award. He has still never been to a conference finals. It's not happening this.

Has he ever won a second playoff round? Has he ever won in one season a second player?

I don't think so.

No. And by the way, if you look, here's the thing about Philadelphia, it's all ego and nonsense. When I look at the Knicks, or I look at the Celtics, or I look at Cleveland, I just don't sense anything other than chemistry winning. Those teams are well built cams, Nick Celtics. I don't see any disruptions. I don't see any variants outside of go to work, play hard, d up every night. All three of those teams will d you up.

So let me ask you better career Anthony Davis or Joelle and Anthony Davis easily just making sure.

Here's a lot of embid fan boys out there.

And Colin, here's the thing. Ain't nobody trading for this guy? Okay, he's gonna have a surgery in the offseason. I don't know what the market value of Paul George is. I feel a little bad for your boy, Tyrese Maxey, who they got locked up last night by the Raptors. But I mean he's having a good season. You watched the Knicks last night, They got a nice win. Yeah, yeah, over the Pacers. I watch you check it out NBA. Did you watch any got.

A flat tire? So I sat in a car dealership for an hour watching the next win.

Oh wow, flat tire.

Hey, I could have done it my on the four and five.

When was the last time you changed a tire?

I'm gonna get into that.

Yeah, that's what I thought.

When's the last time I considered doing it? You know what?

Years you got a call Triple A, They'll come and fix your flat tire and heartfeat.

I just pulled into a dealership and I watched, and I wasn't happy about it until they were a great dealership, totally took care. They were really nice people.

Well they probably saw like, oh there's a famous guy with a flat tire autograph.

I saw a schmuck who was a sad dog walking into the dealership. But I sat on the good news is I mean? I had a I had a cappuccino and I sat and watching forty five minutes of the Nixon Pacers.

It was great cigar last night to celebrate the flat tire.

No, I didn't have anything to celebrate it. J Mack with the News, Well, that's.

The news, and thanks for stopping by.

It was actually funny. I called a dealership. I said, I, so, I'm I'm for two days. I've been stopping off at every gas station putting air in my tire and it just doesn't hold. And so I finally called him and I said, I'm driving up on Thursday. I got a long drive third day and crappy weather. Can I get a new tire? And the lady says, you can get here in thirty minutes before we close. I got in my car and I'm not joking LA rush Hour. I think I hit a dozen straight green lights. It hit a dozen streets. I got in there and there was about five minutes to go before they closed the doors, and it was like, you know what, there's an angel over me tonight I can be changing this puppy. On the four oh five, I got lucky, watched the Knicks had a cafe clutch a cappuccino. It was clutch. Yeah, it was clutch boy. What a cautionary tale for an NFL team that next live in La The Herd.

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That was a story yesterday. We didn't spend a ton of time on it, but basically, Aaron Glenn is the new coach of the New York Jets, and Aaron Glenn went to Aaron Rodgers and said, listen, you have to show up to training camp and you got to be their mandatory practices, off season stuff even before camp starts, and you can't be on anybody's show and making weekly appearances, which I don't think that big of a deal, but you know, Aaron Glenn does not want the distraction. And I think my wife said, when we were, you know, our kids were younger, were raising kids, he always had a great saying, is that as a parent, be a great example or a horrible warning. They both work. There's a lot of teams that now will look at the Philadelphia Eagles and say, wow, that's how you build a team. But part of building a pro football team is not making a disastrous decision out of desperation and acquiring a quarterback out of desperation, which is what the Jets did, never ends well. You could say, what about New England Tom Brady went to town Tampa was not desperate. They were a five hundred team. They had a very good roster, they have a great GM, they had continuity, but Jamis was mistake prone, so they upgraded at quarterback. They weren't desperate. They were a five hundred team. What about the Rams with Stafford? They weren't desperate. Golf got to a Super Bowl, was forty two and twenty. They wanted to upgrade. Three teams in the last couple of years were desperate at quarterback and went and got a big name Denver with Russell Wilson, Cleveland with Deshaun Watson, and the Jets with Aaron Rodgers, and all three were an abject disaster. And here's one of the things I was thinking about this this morning, and the hidden danger to being desperate is not just the draft capital you give up, but that the star quarterback knows you're desperate. What did Russell Wilson do in Denver? Hey, let me get my own office, cringy, No, he never did that in Seattle. What did Deshaun Watson do in Cleveland? Knowing he had the Browns over a barrel? He was once cleared to playing a game and He's like, yeah, I know, but I just don't feel like it. And then there was Aaron Rodgers. I want you guys to sign Blizard, I want Nat Hackett, I want my buddies on the team. And I'm going to go to Egypt during camp. You know, I went to some of the practices. I'm going to go to Egypt. Russell, Deshaun, and Aaron in a position in American sports, quarterback, which is sort of the glamour position. And I'm not blaming Russell, DeShawn or Aaron for having an ego. You gotta have one to be a pro athlete, especially a quarterback. But when teams are desperate, the quarterbacks know they are desperate and they lean into it, and poorly run businesses get into these spaces. And what's interesting about the Jets now, they won't be as good at quarterback next year because Aaron played pretty well down the stretch, but they won't be desperate. They won't be good at quarterback. They won't be desperate why because the new GM and coach have a pass for a year to build a culture. I mean, Dan Campbell's lines were awful as first year. Secondly, next year's college quarterback draft, you're gonna have four first round guys. And the third thing is if the Jets can land let's say a tight end and a defensive tackle in this draft, Mason Graham first pick, maybe move up and get a good tight end. They actually have a playoff roster. It's actually a really good roster. I like the Jets roster, didn't like the coach, necessarily, didn't like the ownership group. But go look at Denver, go look at Cleveland, go look at the Jets in all three. It's not just giving up draft capital. That's not just it draft pick for a sixty to forty to fifty to fifty proposition to begin with. What it's doing is that quarterback knows you've got the team over a barrel, and they lean into it. So I'm gonna throw this out. So J Mack used to, I'm not sure if he still does, had a relationship with Kevin Durant. So I love Kevin Durant, the player I in my lifetime, I believe Kevin Durant is the greatest catch and shoot player in the history of the basketball worlds. In fact, I've said before, if you did an all time one on one tournament, takeout centers, if you did a one on one tournament, the only guy that I think beats Michael Jordan is Kevin Durant. I don't think Michael can stop him. I just think Kevin Durant is He is a bucket. You can give him the ball late in the possession. He doesn't need to set it up. He's an all time talent. But last night he became the eighth player to score thirty thousand points, and I think it's interesting. It's a milestone on an irrelevant team and a loss, and that sort of sums up his career. But what's amazing is that everybody loves to bang on coaches in the NBA and general managers that guy for Dallas is getting crushed. But I said it at the time, and I was shocked at the lack of agreement within NBA media. Kevin Durant tanked his own career. He really did. He was at the time when he was in Golden State, Kevin Durant was there were a half the people covering the league said he was better than Lebron. He was beating Lebron, he was a better offensive player. He made Steph look small. He was MVP of finals. The league thought it was twice. The league thought it was unfair. I mean, Adam Silver was uncomfortable with how dominant they were, and then he decided, I want to go play with Kyrie and Brooklyn.

The hell.

And I've always felt the difference between Lebron and KD is not their games. They're both all time great players. The difference between Lebron and KD is Lebron is more like a Gordon Ramsey or a Jay Z I'm not a businessman. I'm a business man, and Kevin Durant is more the artist who halfway through the tour cancels the tour, sues ticketmaster and gets into a fistfight with his drummer. Is like all basketball players because it's the most creative of our sports. They're all artists. Kobe was an artist, Michael's an artist. All great basketball scorers, Carmelo's an artist. I mean, they've all got a different looking shot. There is nobody that copied the skyhook outside of Jordan. Nobody played quite like him except Kobe. There is no duplicate for Larry Birder magic. I've never seen anybody that plays like him. It's the most artistry. The difference is and neither are starving artists but one and you see this a lot bono with you too, Gordon ramsay Jay z that artist can compartmentalize business in the art and Katie doesn't like it's just all art. And in the end, he literally could be a top three to four player ever and he left. And what the funny thing is, STEP's about the easiest guy in the world to play with, and Klay Thompson maybe the second easiest guy start to play with. And so when he sets that record last night, he's the eighth player to score thirty thousand, there's a warm spot in my heart because I think he is one of the great artists of my lifetime to play basketball. I love watching him play. I think he would win a one on one all time basketball tournament. He's one of the few guys I would pay to watch as a professional athlete. I think he's a really nice guy. But I often look at that and I said it at the time. If Patrick Mahomes in the middle of the dynasty would have said, you don't want to go play with my friend Michole Hartman. With the Jets, you'd be in like, excuse me, you're not leaving Andy Reid. You're not You're not leaving Travis Kelcey. But in basketball, because there's so much artistry that we kind of say, like, hey man, it's just ball. You got to let the artists perform football, we don't. They're all gladiators, right, they're all tackling each other. Shorter careers, they beat on each other, they're wobbling, they're all hurt by like week four. But so last night he set the record and immediately they were talking about his future in Phoenix. If you had your choice in the matter, and it's not under your control, would you rather just play the rest of your career in Phoenix?

Uh?

Man, I'm We'll focus on Houston tomorrow.

Man, we ain't gonna go there right now. Again to the end, incredibly likable. It's just interesting you go back when he was with the Warriors. You were probably one of those saying is he better than Lebron? That was a real discussion in America. Lebron has always been very good at manipulating the business side. Again, a lot of these star chefs, there's a sad ending, a lot of star musicians sad ending, and then you get Mick Jagger or Bono or Gordon Ramsay and it's like, yeah, they get the business side of it. Jay Z gets the business side of it, and that to me, that's the difference. Lebron is great at that and Katie is just more artist. It's about the ball, it's about performing. Depends on the mood. I know you love him, are you still in a relationship where you can discuss I.

Have not dm'd with him lately, but there was a time when he was a two time finals MVP. He was the best player in the league.

I got no disrespect to Lebron. He was I beat him, had to hit in the finals twice.

I was arguing at people who were saying that, and I'm like, but it was a real argument for about a six year stretch. No, KD is better than Lebron, and offensively, I do think he's more gifted. I don't think i'd i'd take I would argue that all day long, hour two next

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