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Here we go on a big Monday. Super Bowl is now set live and Los Angeles. It's the Herd. Wherever you may be and however you may be listening. Thanks for making us part of your day. Jmac. A lot of America down trodden heads are hanging the outcome they were hoping what not happen has happened. I got a picture send to me of mahomes with three rings, and I can feel America's tension, no blood pressure going off.

Here we go on a big Monday. Super Bowl is now set live and Los Angeles. It's the Herd. Wherever you may be and however you may be listening. Thanks for making us part of your day. Jmac. A lot of America down trodden heads are hanging the outcome they were hoping what not happen has happened. I got a picture send to me of mahomes with three rings, and I can feel America's tension, no blood pressure going off.

I wore Buffalo Blue on Monday four out for the builds or rough when unlucky, because I like to say well.

I wore Buffalo Blue on Monday four out for the builds or rough when unlucky, because I like to say well.

I look at the box score after the game and it was clearly two very even teams total yards, rushing, penalties, time of possession, fourth down efficiency, first downs. These were two very even teams with two A plus quarterbacks, but here is where I continue to see a different and boy did I see it yesterday. Kansas City is liberated by pressure. They're more aggressive, They're more free, They're more aggressive. But Patrick Mahomes averages four rushes a game in the regular season, yesterday he had eleven. Mahomes runs more often, runs more aggressively, a season high in carries. Does it make any sense that Kansas City scored over thirty points for the first time all season. Where Sean McDermott, the defensive wizard as a head coach in big games spags the defensive coordinator, takes bigger risks. Andy Reid in the big games has us all guessing even more than usual with his clever play design and play calling. It's like Mahomes is allowed to finally be free. Like when our parents every summer for a couple of days would say, no curfew tonight, just be safe, your friends are in town. That's what Mahomes plays like. They are liberated by the pressure. It's a blessing. They love it, take bigger swings and risks. It's almost as if Kansas City is bored by the tedium of the regular season and the playoffs is an opportunity to show you the entire playbook because they know they get two weeks off for the next game. And yet Buffalo, to at least some degree, once again against the Chiefs, feels a little burdened by the pressure, a little tight. They change who they are a little like Baltimore doves against Mahomes, I mean Tony Romo. On that first drive, Josh Allen almost had two interceptions. Romo admitted on the air that was nerves. In the second half, Buffalo, a high powered offense, ran sixteen of the first seventeen plays. Would any Reid ever do that with Josh Allen on fourth down? Apparently, offensive coordinator Joe Brady only has a single play in his playbook. Despite having an excellent star running back in James Cook, having an excellent backup running back in Davis, Joe Brady decided, our only play on fourth down is to hand it to our six to seven quarterback and have him leap into the air, which is always a vulnerable spot for a tall player. The Chiefs expand in the playoffs, expand, and the Bills feel like, to some degree they contract. The Chiefs rise to the moment, and Buffalo at least situationally feels like they shrink.

I look at the box score after the game and it was clearly two very even teams total yards, rushing, penalties, time of possession, fourth down efficiency, first downs. These were two very even teams with two A plus quarterbacks, but here is where I continue to see a different and boy did I see it yesterday. Kansas City is liberated by pressure. They're more aggressive, They're more free, They're more aggressive. But Patrick Mahomes averages four rushes a game in the regular season, yesterday he had eleven. Mahomes runs more often, runs more aggressively, a season high in carries. Does it make any sense that Kansas City scored over thirty points for the first time all season. Where Sean McDermott, the defensive wizard as a head coach in big games spags the defensive coordinator, takes bigger risks. Andy Reid in the big games has us all guessing even more than usual with his clever play design and play calling. It's like Mahomes is allowed to finally be free. Like when our parents every summer for a couple of days would say, no curfew tonight, just be safe, your friends are in town. That's what Mahomes plays like. They are liberated by the pressure. It's a blessing. They love it, take bigger swings and risks. It's almost as if Kansas City is bored by the tedium of the regular season and the playoffs is an opportunity to show you the entire playbook because they know they get two weeks off for the next game. And yet Buffalo, to at least some degree, once again against the Chiefs, feels a little burdened by the pressure, a little tight. They change who they are a little like Baltimore doves against Mahomes, I mean Tony Romo. On that first drive, Josh Allen almost had two interceptions. Romo admitted on the air that was nerves. In the second half, Buffalo, a high powered offense, ran sixteen of the first seventeen plays. Would any Reid ever do that with Josh Allen on fourth down? Apparently, offensive coordinator Joe Brady only has a single play in his playbook. Despite having an excellent star running back in James Cook, having an excellent backup running back in Davis, Joe Brady decided, our only play on fourth down is to hand it to our six to seven quarterback and have him leap into the air, which is always a vulnerable spot for a tall player. The Chiefs expand in the playoffs, expand, and the Bills feel like, to some degree they contract. The Chiefs rise to the moment, and Buffalo at least situationally feels like they shrink.

Again.

Again.

The box score has two excellent teams, but on the biggest defensive play, Spags had a corner blitz and on those big fourth down tush pushes where Buffalo was two for five, Jim Nance acknowledged that Kansas City had told them in a production meeting. Yeah, he likes to run left. One team on the biggest plays was a bit predictable, even more than a bit Josh Allen fourth down again, James Cook on that final Buffalo drive never touched the ball. And if Buffalo, I know it's the refs, right, it's such a tired act. I heard that for twenty years on the Patriots dynasty. Yes, the league wanted jammed up in the northeast New England to dominate the league. And now small market Kansas City. Please have them dominate all the games. Remember pre Taylor Swift they had Super Bowls. Right, So if Buffalo doesn't recover all four of their fumbles, I wonder if it's close. They've had the lead in all four games against Kansas City in the playoffs, and yet here's Mahomes and I noticed this yesterday. It reminded me of Tiger Woods and MJ. He's got that red on in a big Sunday game. And Mahomes, as great as he is, elevates and expands in these games. And Josh Allen and the Bills and Sean McDermott, they just shrink a little. Seventeen straight one possession wins. You think it's the Zebras. Sean McDermott supposed to be a defensive mastermind. Why does Kansas City score over thirty points for the first time all season. They didn't look like that last week against Demiko Ryan. They struggled to move the ball last week against Houston. Why because to my initial point, in these big games, MJ. Tiger on a Sunday, Mahomes yesterday, they get a show off. There's no curfew. Do what you have to do, there's no tomorrow. They scored their most points. Mahomes had his season high in carries. From the first organized and efficient and lethal drive of the game until the last. They were a better team on the biggest plays. First drive for Buffalo, aimless, last drives. Dalton Kinkaid drops a ball, James Cook never touches it.

The box score has two excellent teams, but on the biggest defensive play, Spags had a corner blitz and on those big fourth down tush pushes where Buffalo was two for five, Jim Nance acknowledged that Kansas City had told them in a production meeting. Yeah, he likes to run left. One team on the biggest plays was a bit predictable, even more than a bit Josh Allen fourth down again, James Cook on that final Buffalo drive never touched the ball. And if Buffalo, I know it's the refs, right, it's such a tired act. I heard that for twenty years on the Patriots dynasty. Yes, the league wanted jammed up in the northeast New England to dominate the league. And now small market Kansas City. Please have them dominate all the games. Remember pre Taylor Swift they had Super Bowls. Right, So if Buffalo doesn't recover all four of their fumbles, I wonder if it's close. They've had the lead in all four games against Kansas City in the playoffs, and yet here's Mahomes and I noticed this yesterday. It reminded me of Tiger Woods and MJ. He's got that red on in a big Sunday game. And Mahomes, as great as he is, elevates and expands in these games. And Josh Allen and the Bills and Sean McDermott, they just shrink a little. Seventeen straight one possession wins. You think it's the Zebras. Sean McDermott supposed to be a defensive mastermind. Why does Kansas City score over thirty points for the first time all season. They didn't look like that last week against Demiko Ryan. They struggled to move the ball last week against Houston. Why because to my initial point, in these big games, MJ. Tiger on a Sunday, Mahomes yesterday, they get a show off. There's no curfew. Do what you have to do, there's no tomorrow. They scored their most points. Mahomes had his season high in carries. From the first organized and efficient and lethal drive of the game until the last. They were a better team on the biggest plays. First drive for Buffalo, aimless, last drives. Dalton Kinkaid drops a ball, James Cook never touches it.

Why not?

Why not?

Because I know the why and I know the what, and that's always Kansas City in these moments being the best version of themselves and all year long, I said, Buffalo's the best team. But if you shrink six, eight, nine, twelve percent, you're not going to arrowhead and winning. And here's Josh Allen after.

Because I know the why and I know the what, and that's always Kansas City in these moments being the best version of themselves and all year long, I said, Buffalo's the best team. But if you shrink six, eight, nine, twelve percent, you're not going to arrowhead and winning. And here's Josh Allen after.

It's not fun, but to beat the champion, to be the champion, to beat the champs, and we didn't do it tonight. You can either get it done or you can't, and we didn't get it done.

It's not fun, but to beat the champion, to be the champion, to beat the champs, and we didn't do it tonight. You can either get it done or you can't, and we didn't get it done.

So I will say this. As I was watching Philadelphia beat Washington, my first take was Kansas City matches up pretty well with Philadelphia. Buffalo does not. So heartbreak was gonna happen yesterday or Super Bowl. Buffalo, be thankful because you're not stopping this run game. Let's be honest about Washington. What we saw is what we all thought could happen. Washington ran out of juice. They were missing their best O line and d lineman, and they have elite talent everywhere. I mean, you forget that DeVante Smith is on the team for Philadelphia, a Heisman winner at receiver. You're like, they have to engineer plays jet sweeps to get him the ball. He'd be a number one receiver on a third to a half of the teams in the NFL. You forget he's on the team. Their third string running back peels off a big win. The Eagles feel like one of those Bama Georgia teams that just had more five star athletes. I mean, they've run for three two hundred plus yards in all their playoff wins. Doesn't that sound sort of like a dominant college team. The first two drives of the game told the story. Washington had that Notre Dame feel. Eighteen plays and they settle for a field goal. Philadelphia is like, yeah, that's cool. First play Eagles Saquon Barkley sixty yards. Momentum completely and absolutely erased. We all kind of knew yesterday was really possible. Philadelphia is better. They are a green wall of talent. In fact, I'm trying to think of a team in the last eight to ten years that has as much talent as Philadelphia. Elite players four on the offensive line, one or two at wide receiver, one at tight end. I mean, we don't even like their coach, and we don't think they're quarterback's top five or six, and they're still double digit leads on Washington, on the Rams, on the Packers. Washington was down two valuable linemen. They've got two great players, Terry McLaurin and Jayden Daniels, and they're going to be back in this game multiple times in the next ten years. But Philadelphia is so well constructed that at the two key positions in pro football quarterback and coach, we've got our doubts, and they still bulldoze people. Double digit leads, double digit wins. It's what they do. Here's saque after.

So I will say this. As I was watching Philadelphia beat Washington, my first take was Kansas City matches up pretty well with Philadelphia. Buffalo does not. So heartbreak was gonna happen yesterday or Super Bowl. Buffalo, be thankful because you're not stopping this run game. Let's be honest about Washington. What we saw is what we all thought could happen. Washington ran out of juice. They were missing their best O line and d lineman, and they have elite talent everywhere. I mean, you forget that DeVante Smith is on the team for Philadelphia, a Heisman winner at receiver. You're like, they have to engineer plays jet sweeps to get him the ball. He'd be a number one receiver on a third to a half of the teams in the NFL. You forget he's on the team. Their third string running back peels off a big win. The Eagles feel like one of those Bama Georgia teams that just had more five star athletes. I mean, they've run for three two hundred plus yards in all their playoff wins. Doesn't that sound sort of like a dominant college team. The first two drives of the game told the story. Washington had that Notre Dame feel. Eighteen plays and they settle for a field goal. Philadelphia is like, yeah, that's cool. First play Eagles Saquon Barkley sixty yards. Momentum completely and absolutely erased. We all kind of knew yesterday was really possible. Philadelphia is better. They are a green wall of talent. In fact, I'm trying to think of a team in the last eight to ten years that has as much talent as Philadelphia. Elite players four on the offensive line, one or two at wide receiver, one at tight end. I mean, we don't even like their coach, and we don't think they're quarterback's top five or six, and they're still double digit leads on Washington, on the Rams, on the Packers. Washington was down two valuable linemen. They've got two great players, Terry McLaurin and Jayden Daniels, and they're going to be back in this game multiple times in the next ten years. But Philadelphia is so well constructed that at the two key positions in pro football quarterback and coach, we've got our doubts, and they still bulldoze people. Double digit leads, double digit wins. It's what they do. Here's saque after.

I ain't gonna lot tie, don't play it in my head, but it's just amazing, man, it's amazing.

I ain't gonna lot tie, don't play it in my head, but it's just amazing, man, it's amazing.

We're here Super Bowl. But the goal wasn't just getting there.

We're here Super Bowl. But the goal wasn't just getting there.

The gos to win, and we're gonna celebrate and enjoy this and get right back to where again.

The gos to win, and we're gonna celebrate and enjoy this and get right back to where again.

Jayden Daniels is going to be in this puppy a lot over the next ten years. That's not even a doubt. They got cap space. They need one to two more drafts. But it's not time for Washington, not time at all. Philadelphia has more talent. Kansas City has a decided advantage at quarterback and head coach. In the Super Bowl. I like the Chiefs. I doubted them. Friday had Buffalo winning twenty eight twenty seven. My bad, say it out loud, Bill's Chiefs. McDermott Reid at Arrowhead. I was on the wrong side for at least one of the games. J mc Matt Hasselbeck and Drew Brees both stop by today. There. You know, it's interesting when we talk about these games, and one of the things I'm just interested in his referee discussions, like if you're pinning your hopes on two inches on a fourth down and I'm going to talk about this next. The Chargers tried a tush push once with Justin Herbert. He's six five and a half and they learned very quickly he was a target. The tush pushes between the two teams were a big separator in this game if you think the officiating mattered, And it is interesting to watch both because one looks perfected and one feels like they're kind of winging it. Hey, Josh, can you just get the first down? And I want to talk about that coming up.

Jayden Daniels is going to be in this puppy a lot over the next ten years. That's not even a doubt. They got cap space. They need one to two more drafts. But it's not time for Washington, not time at all. Philadelphia has more talent. Kansas City has a decided advantage at quarterback and head coach. In the Super Bowl. I like the Chiefs. I doubted them. Friday had Buffalo winning twenty eight twenty seven. My bad, say it out loud, Bill's Chiefs. McDermott Reid at Arrowhead. I was on the wrong side for at least one of the games. J mc Matt Hasselbeck and Drew Brees both stop by today. There. You know, it's interesting when we talk about these games, and one of the things I'm just interested in his referee discussions, like if you're pinning your hopes on two inches on a fourth down and I'm going to talk about this next. The Chargers tried a tush push once with Justin Herbert. He's six five and a half and they learned very quickly he was a target. The tush pushes between the two teams were a big separator in this game if you think the officiating mattered, And it is interesting to watch both because one looks perfected and one feels like they're kind of winging it. Hey, Josh, can you just get the first down? And I want to talk about that coming up.

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So you know, Buffalo fans, they get all worked up over that inch, that first down they weren't given. But let's talk about the tush push Philadelphia version and Buffalo's version. Let's start with Philadelphia, where you have a five to eleven quarterback Jalen Hurtz, who squats six hundred pounds. He literally disappears into the scrum behind the first or second maybe first best offensive line in football. It looks practical, It bats a thousand. It is so dominating, dominating that Washington almost surrendered a touchdown. Thanks to Mike Pereira for telling us a rule none of us knew. It is a thousand for a thousand. About once every ten or twelve tries to add a wrinkle to it. But that is the standard of the play. That is the gold standard. Great oline, smaller quarterback disappears into a sea of green. Now let's look at Buffalo's which went two first six if you count two point conversions. It's a sex seven quarterback who jumps into the air, making himself a pinota. Half the time it looks like he wants to pitch it back. It feels like thirty percent of the time he's close to fumbling. They go to the left side every time, which Jim Nance told us Kansas City coach is new. It looks disorganized, It looks ad libbed. Six seven quarterbacks holding the ball in the air leaping over the top, or a five to eleven quarterback who squat six hundred pounds behind dominant guard center guard play. What sounds like it would work? What sounds more practical. Everybody in the league has tried their hand at this. Maybe everybody should stop accept Philadelphia, the Buffalo version has a Hey, let's just let Josh figure this out. Yeah, it's not Thanksgiving with the relatives. You're not beating Andy Reid on he Josh's is out there. Hey man, he is so talented. Le's let him figure it out. Yeah, he goes to the left every time. Jim Nant said, they knew it was coming. Here's Sean McDermott after.

So you know, Buffalo fans, they get all worked up over that inch, that first down they weren't given. But let's talk about the tush push Philadelphia version and Buffalo's version. Let's start with Philadelphia, where you have a five to eleven quarterback Jalen Hurtz, who squats six hundred pounds. He literally disappears into the scrum behind the first or second maybe first best offensive line in football. It looks practical, It bats a thousand. It is so dominating, dominating that Washington almost surrendered a touchdown. Thanks to Mike Pereira for telling us a rule none of us knew. It is a thousand for a thousand. About once every ten or twelve tries to add a wrinkle to it. But that is the standard of the play. That is the gold standard. Great oline, smaller quarterback disappears into a sea of green. Now let's look at Buffalo's which went two first six if you count two point conversions. It's a sex seven quarterback who jumps into the air, making himself a pinota. Half the time it looks like he wants to pitch it back. It feels like thirty percent of the time he's close to fumbling. They go to the left side every time, which Jim Nance told us Kansas City coach is new. It looks disorganized, It looks ad libbed. Six seven quarterbacks holding the ball in the air leaping over the top, or a five to eleven quarterback who squat six hundred pounds behind dominant guard center guard play. What sounds like it would work? What sounds more practical. Everybody in the league has tried their hand at this. Maybe everybody should stop accept Philadelphia, the Buffalo version has a Hey, let's just let Josh figure this out. Yeah, it's not Thanksgiving with the relatives. You're not beating Andy Reid on he Josh's is out there. Hey man, he is so talented. Le's let him figure it out. Yeah, he goes to the left every time. Jim Nant said, they knew it was coming. Here's Sean McDermott after.

They were they're doing a good job. And I thought, overall, you know, maybe, you know, maybe we could disguise it. Maybe not, But at the end of the day, we have confidence in Josh and our offensive line to get those and they've been getting them all year.

They were they're doing a good job. And I thought, overall, you know, maybe, you know, maybe we could disguise it. Maybe not, But at the end of the day, we have confidence in Josh and our offensive line to get those and they've been getting them all year.

We thought maybe we disguise it. How about let's disguise it. Kansas City disguises everything, kickoffs everything. Kansas City unveils new pressure defensively against kicks and the pat It's a constant playbook expanded. We thought about disguising it. It's hard to disguise a six foot seven guy who jumps into the air over the line with the ball wide open to be hit, knocked away, or fumbled. He did once and somehow, weirdly they recovered it. But if you're going into Kansas City and you your play is, hey man, it's gonna be a game of inches. We're just gonna let Josh ad libit. Does Kansas City feel like they add lib much of anything pre snap?

We thought maybe we disguise it. How about let's disguise it. Kansas City disguises everything, kickoffs everything. Kansas City unveils new pressure defensively against kicks and the pat It's a constant playbook expanded. We thought about disguising it. It's hard to disguise a six foot seven guy who jumps into the air over the line with the ball wide open to be hit, knocked away, or fumbled. He did once and somehow, weirdly they recovered it. But if you're going into Kansas City and you your play is, hey man, it's gonna be a game of inches. We're just gonna let Josh ad libit. Does Kansas City feel like they add lib much of anything pre snap?

They don't do that, And that is.

They don't do that, And that is.

The difference Spags blitzing Andy with an expansive playbook and Buffalo on these big, big plays. We just thought we'd let Josh, you know, do it. You have excellent running backs. You don't have the best running back duo in the league. I think that's Detroit, but James Cook Ray Davis are somewhere in the top five. Use them like you did all season. J Mack with a news.

The difference Spags blitzing Andy with an expansive playbook and Buffalo on these big, big plays. We just thought we'd let Josh, you know, do it. You have excellent running backs. You don't have the best running back duo in the league. I think that's Detroit, but James Cook Ray Davis are somewhere in the top five. Use them like you did all season. J Mack with a news.

This is the headline news.

This is the headline news.

All right, collin. Interesting story popped over the weekend.

All right, collin. Interesting story popped over the weekend.

The Dallas Cowboys announced Brian Schottenheimer is their.

The Dallas Cowboys announced Brian Schottenheimer is their.

New head coach. In a Friday news dump, Wow believable.

New head coach. In a Friday news dump, Wow believable.

Owner Jerry Jones said, quote, Brian Schottenheimer is known as a career assistant.

Owner Jerry Jones said, quote, Brian Schottenheimer is known as a career assistant.

He ain't Brian no more. He is now known as head coach of the Dallas Cowboys, all.

He ain't Brian no more. He is now known as head coach of the Dallas Cowboys, all.

Right, adding there became a point where there was no doubt in my mind that the best man to be the head coach of the Dallas Cowboys.

Right, adding there became a point where there was no doubt in my mind that the best man to be the head coach of the Dallas Cowboys.

And it reduces the transition whatever that means, Jerry, this really is, this is his move.

And it reduces the transition whatever that means, Jerry, this really is, this is his move.

It's really not a Brian Schottenheimer conversation. It's a Mike McCarthy left and Dallas got caught off guard. That's what this feels like. Schottenheimer is not the focus here. We knew nobody would like it. He's been a coordinator fourteen years. First time he's really been in a head coaching discussion ever. I mean, we told you when this news came down three days ago, we told you this is going to be met with utter dismay resistance. It will affect the lines in Vegas and Jerry dumped it at ten pm on Friday. Smart's like when PR firms have really bad news, they call it a news dump. It's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa whoa. So so Jerry knew he can be strident and strong, and that's not what this is. This is a news dump. They got caught off guard and of the four to five best candidates, of which Mike McCarthy was one of them, they could not even retain their own very good head coach.

It's really not a Brian Schottenheimer conversation. It's a Mike McCarthy left and Dallas got caught off guard. That's what this feels like. Schottenheimer is not the focus here. We knew nobody would like it. He's been a coordinator fourteen years. First time he's really been in a head coaching discussion ever. I mean, we told you when this news came down three days ago, we told you this is going to be met with utter dismay resistance. It will affect the lines in Vegas and Jerry dumped it at ten pm on Friday. Smart's like when PR firms have really bad news, they call it a news dump. It's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa whoa. So so Jerry knew he can be strident and strong, and that's not what this is. This is a news dump. They got caught off guard and of the four to five best candidates, of which Mike McCarthy was one of them, they could not even retain their own very good head coach.

This was the only smart move Jerry Jones made in the entire process burying this on Friday night.

This was the only smart move Jerry Jones made in the entire process burying this on Friday night.

Nobody talked about it Saturday. You know, it is like a free day. There was no football.

Nobody talked about it Saturday. You know, it is like a free day. There was no football.

Everybody just like got about their life, and then Sunday there was the big games. And now Monday we're reacting to the lucky Chiefs and the powerful Eagles.

Everybody just like got about their life, and then Sunday there was the big games. And now Monday we're reacting to the lucky Chiefs and the powerful Eagles.

And nobody's talking about the Cowboys. This is a smart move by Jerry. You got admit. This is the savniest movie's ed in the last I don't know a month.

And nobody's talking about the Cowboys. This is a smart move by Jerry. You got admit. This is the savniest movie's ed in the last I don't know a month.

I would hope. As a business worth ten billion dollars, your smartest moves aren't news dumps.

I would hope. As a business worth ten billion dollars, your smartest moves aren't news dumps.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Next up is the tush push You talked about it with the Chiefs. Well, how about the Eagles. They've been running it and dominating throughout.

Next up is the tush push You talked about it with the Chiefs. Well, how about the Eagles. They've been running it and dominating throughout.

It has been unstoppable for them, except the Commanders made an interesting effort to stop at Linebacker Frankie Luvu decided he was just going to keep getting flagged off sides, and then the ref announced, and I'd never heard this before, he would award the Eagles a touchdown if Washington continued to jump.

It has been unstoppable for them, except the Commanders made an interesting effort to stop at Linebacker Frankie Luvu decided he was just going to keep getting flagged off sides, and then the ref announced, and I'd never heard this before, he would award the Eagles a touchdown if Washington continued to jump.

I was just timing to jump over. They've been doing a lot of the short yardage and I was just gonna take my shot. But the third time they told me, you know, I'm will give fifteen yard penalty for sportsmanil Conda. I don't know what that was about, but I guess they wanted in the score. So I just kind of stopped from there, and that's how I can pay it up.

I was just timing to jump over. They've been doing a lot of the short yardage and I was just gonna take my shot. But the third time they told me, you know, I'm will give fifteen yard penalty for sportsmanil Conda. I don't know what that was about, but I guess they wanted in the score. So I just kind of stopped from there, and that's how I can pay it up.

Did you notice Kansas City did not need to jump off sides to defend Josh Allen because it was predictable and stoppable. Washington literally knew we have virtually no chance to stop this. That tells you the distinction between Philadelphia's version of it and Buffalo's version. Kansas City sat back patiently and said do your best. We'll take us. We'll take a whack at the pinata. There's nothing you can do here between the quarterback, the O line, the quarterback size and leg strength. I don't like to play at all. I think it's bad TV. I don't think it's entertaining.

Did you notice Kansas City did not need to jump off sides to defend Josh Allen because it was predictable and stoppable. Washington literally knew we have virtually no chance to stop this. That tells you the distinction between Philadelphia's version of it and Buffalo's version. Kansas City sat back patiently and said do your best. We'll take us. We'll take a whack at the pinata. There's nothing you can do here between the quarterback, the O line, the quarterback size and leg strength. I don't like to play at all. I think it's bad TV. I don't think it's entertaining.

It's like, how is it bad TV?

It's like, how is it bad TV?

Well, it's just not a very I mean it's like saying bunts if baseball said more bunts. It's not really what These are all television products.

Well, it's just not a very I mean it's like saying bunts if baseball said more bunts. It's not really what These are all television products.

This is like, this is for touchdowns, this is for two point conversions. What's wrong with it? It feels automatic. When the Eagles run it in the Super Bowl, Chiefs ain't gonna be able to stop it, just as they stop Buffalo.

This is like, this is for touchdowns, this is for two point conversions. What's wrong with it? It feels automatic. When the Eagles run it in the Super Bowl, Chiefs ain't gonna be able to stop it, just as they stop Buffalo.

They're not gonna be able to stop this.

They're not gonna be able to stop this.

They may not get into the red zone.

They may not get into the red zone.

The Eagles might not get into the red zone. All right.

The Eagles might not get into the red zone. All right.

Seriously, I think Kansas City's defense we now have to be honest, lockdown corner, dominant defensive line, multiple edge defenders, hyperathletic linebackers. I don't think people are giving Kansas City's defense the credit. But really, oh, I think it's really good, and it's really good in big game.

Seriously, I think Kansas City's defense we now have to be honest, lockdown corner, dominant defensive line, multiple edge defenders, hyperathletic linebackers. I don't think people are giving Kansas City's defense the credit. But really, oh, I think it's really good, and it's really good in big game.

I mean, Bill scored twenty nine points, left some on the board at an unlucky fourth down call that was reversed.

I mean, Bill scored twenty nine points, left some on the board at an unlucky fourth down call that was reversed.

They were lucky.

They were lucky.

They recovered all four fumbles the five actually they were.

They recovered all four fumbles the five actually they were.

If Kansas City recovered one of those fumbles, you could start putting Kansas City in the forties.

If Kansas City recovered one of those fumbles, you could start putting Kansas City in the forties.

Yeah. No, Kansas City offense is awesome. I think their defense a little overrated.

Yeah. No, Kansas City offense is awesome. I think their defense a little overrated.

James Cook was finding the getting little. James Cook is the exceptional running back. Can we just acknowledge now? He's also what drives me crazy Buffalo. He's not Saquon, but he's on a short list of five guys as the second best running back in the league. James Cook is phenomenal.

James Cook was finding the getting little. James Cook is the exceptional running back. Can we just acknowledge now? He's also what drives me crazy Buffalo. He's not Saquon, but he's on a short list of five guys as the second best running back in the league. James Cook is phenomenal.

Use him? Yeah, I don't know.

Use him? Yeah, I don't know.

I mean I would have used James Cook instead at the Twist Push. But regarding the Eagles like this is all. They had seven rushing touchdowns.

I mean I would have used James Cook instead at the Twist Push. But regarding the Eagles like this is all. They had seven rushing touchdowns.

In the game.

In the game.

You can't stop the Twist push. Out of the Commanders was just whining. Please tell me you're not one of these band the Twist Push guys?

You can't stop the Twist push. Out of the Commanders was just whining. Please tell me you're not one of these band the Twist Push guys?

Are you?

Are you?

I don't love it? Do you want to ban I'm not a big ban anything guy. I'm not. I'm not four governments telling us mandates we have to do something. And I'm not necessarily much of a band guy, but you know it's funny. Philadelphia masters this and now everybody wants to try it. Chargers tried it once with Herbert. He got hurt, and they're like, yeah, but this isn't built for us. It's not built for tall quarterbacks. It's really not.

I don't love it? Do you want to ban I'm not a big ban anything guy. I'm not. I'm not four governments telling us mandates we have to do something. And I'm not necessarily much of a band guy, but you know it's funny. Philadelphia masters this and now everybody wants to try it. Chargers tried it once with Herbert. He got hurt, and they're like, yeah, but this isn't built for us. It's not built for tall quarterbacks. It's really not.

You won't see Mahomes do it anymore.

You won't see Mahomes do it anymore.

Yeah, you know, you don't need to do it. And by the way, Kansas City doesn't do it, and Kansas City doesn't have nearly as good as running back as James Cook, and I could argue the better old line is Buffalo's over Kansas City's.

Yeah, you know, you don't need to do it. And by the way, Kansas City doesn't do it, and Kansas City doesn't have nearly as good as running back as James Cook, and I could argue the better old line is Buffalo's over Kansas City's.

And they won't do it.

And they won't do it.

The offensive coaches like, I can fool you misdirection, I've got other weapons. The defensive coaches just give it the josh and let them jump in the air. I think that's a big part of this game.

The offensive coaches like, I can fool you misdirection, I've got other weapons. The defensive coaches just give it the josh and let them jump in the air. I think that's a big part of this game.

She's will need something different against the Eagles defense, which is like, way, way way better than Buffalo.

She's will need something different against the Eagles defense, which is like, way, way way better than Buffalo.

Well, yeah, especially didn't you think watching Philadelphia mid game, I'm like, Buffalo does not match up with Philadelphia.

Well, yeah, especially didn't you think watching Philadelphia mid game, I'm like, Buffalo does not match up with Philadelphia.

They do not.

They do not.

You were gonna get heartbroken there. That all line was going to push Buffalo all over the feet.

You were gonna get heartbroken there. That all line was going to push Buffalo all over the feet.

They're gonna push Kansas City all over the field.

They're gonna push Kansas City all over the field.

But Kansas City is so varied their ability to be diverse defensively, corner Blitzer is at the right time they are. Let me tell you something, my buddy John Middlecoff said this Kansas City's the best tackling team in the league. They get their hands on you. You are down.

But Kansas City is so varied their ability to be diverse defensively, corner Blitzer is at the right time they are. Let me tell you something, my buddy John Middlecoff said this Kansas City's the best tackling team in the league. They get their hands on you. You are down.

I think you're a little too excited about the Chiefs off a win over Buffalo and every badnef Wow.

I think you're a little too excited about the Chiefs off a win over Buffalo and every badnef Wow.

Okay, final story is East West Shrine Bowl was this past weekend.

Okay, final story is East West Shrine Bowl was this past weekend.

Shdeur Sanders did not participate in anything, but he did talk to reporters. He was asked how he'd feel about being drafted number one by the Titans and said he'd be he'd love it and he'd be thankful for the opportunity.

Shdeur Sanders did not participate in anything, but he did talk to reporters. He was asked how he'd feel about being drafted number one by the Titans and said he'd be he'd love it and he'd be thankful for the opportunity.

Colin, I don't see him going number one to the Titans.

Colin, I don't see him going number one to the Titans.

I'm surprised nobody asked him about the Cleveland Browns, who were drafting two giants at three, would obviously love shador. I don't think the Patriots would take a chance to know. The Jaguars Raiders would love him at six. This was my mock draft from about a week ago.

I'm surprised nobody asked him about the Cleveland Browns, who were drafting two giants at three, would obviously love shador. I don't think the Patriots would take a chance to know. The Jaguars Raiders would love him at six. This was my mock draft from about a week ago.

I think if he felt to the Raiders, they'd be a static Yeah.

I think if he felt to the Raiders, they'd be a static Yeah.

I mean I saw a picture of Schadur this weekend standing next to Brian Dable and he he looks like a I mean, he is a big kid, and it's I've yet to talk to anybody in the NFL that doesn't like him. Not everybody loves him, but I think Shador Sanders is a franchise quarterback that's going to have a very nice career. He's not falling past six in the week, but I mean it's just I mean, Deon's done a really good job. He's a hard worker. I think he's going to do well. I don't know how great he is. That's a lot of that's based on coach line play support, but it's I mean, he looks the part when you watch him. And I had a friend who played college quarterback go to a Colorado game live and he said he was by far and away the best player on the field, by far and away, I would hope, so that included Travis Hunter. He said Shadur was in total control of the game.

I mean I saw a picture of Schadur this weekend standing next to Brian Dable and he he looks like a I mean, he is a big kid, and it's I've yet to talk to anybody in the NFL that doesn't like him. Not everybody loves him, but I think Shador Sanders is a franchise quarterback that's going to have a very nice career. He's not falling past six in the week, but I mean it's just I mean, Deon's done a really good job. He's a hard worker. I think he's going to do well. I don't know how great he is. That's a lot of that's based on coach line play support, but it's I mean, he looks the part when you watch him. And I had a friend who played college quarterback go to a Colorado game live and he said he was by far and away the best player on the field, by far and away, I would hope, so that included Travis Hunter. He said Shadur was in total control of the game.

Yeah, it's interesting.

Yeah, it's interesting.

Uh, I don't know Schdor goes to the wrong team with the wrong offensive coordinator, and then he's in the Trevor Lawrence cycle.

Uh, I don't know Schdor goes to the wrong team with the wrong offensive coordinator, and then he's in the Trevor Lawrence cycle.

Of a different coach every year.

Of a different coach every year.

I saw sat Baker Mayfield has had in the last eight years eight different offensive coordinators.

I saw sat Baker Mayfield has had in the last eight years eight different offensive coordinators.

Yeah, how are you supposed to be successful with that?

Yeah, how are you supposed to be successful with that?

It's ridiculous.

It's ridiculous.

Has Patrick Mahomes working on He's had Andy Reid four Oh, I don't know his entire career.

Has Patrick Mahomes working on He's had Andy Reid four Oh, I don't know his entire career.

I know, like talk about good luck. Yeah, geez j Mack with the news.

I know, like talk about good luck. Yeah, geez j Mack with the news.

Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the herd line.

Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the herd line.

I said this years ago about two point conversions. You football coaches are not mathematicians. Just kick the pat until the very end of the game. So since the playoffs have started, playoff teams going for two two point conversions are three of ten. How are those analytics? They're not very good at it, Mahomes. Even Jaden Daniels had a failure stop chasing points. The other thing is if you show your hand early in the game on your very special two point conversion plays, you're not saving it. Do you notice Spags had that corner blitz on the biggest play of the game. Andy Reid will often unveil his greatest tricks. In the biggest leverage moment of the game, second quarter, trailing fourteen twelve, Washington's like, let's go for two. Kick the pat. It's fourteen thirteen. I can assure you nobody thought those were the last touchdowns of the game. This was gonna be one of my I think it's the only time all year I bet the over on a pro game. It was gonna be a lot of scoring. Like stop chasing points, save your special save it for late in games, like like I did, like Washington at one point saying we're gonna fake a punt because they you could feel the game slipping away. But Spags and Andy Reid are really good. Belichick was great at this. I can remember the Julian Edelman double pass against Baltimore. You don't do that in week four. You don't do it in week eleven. You don't do it in the first quarter.

I said this years ago about two point conversions. You football coaches are not mathematicians. Just kick the pat until the very end of the game. So since the playoffs have started, playoff teams going for two two point conversions are three of ten. How are those analytics? They're not very good at it, Mahomes. Even Jaden Daniels had a failure stop chasing points. The other thing is if you show your hand early in the game on your very special two point conversion plays, you're not saving it. Do you notice Spags had that corner blitz on the biggest play of the game. Andy Reid will often unveil his greatest tricks. In the biggest leverage moment of the game, second quarter, trailing fourteen twelve, Washington's like, let's go for two. Kick the pat. It's fourteen thirteen. I can assure you nobody thought those were the last touchdowns of the game. This was gonna be one of my I think it's the only time all year I bet the over on a pro game. It was gonna be a lot of scoring. Like stop chasing points, save your special save it for late in games, like like I did, like Washington at one point saying we're gonna fake a punt because they you could feel the game slipping away. But Spags and Andy Reid are really good. Belichick was great at this. I can remember the Julian Edelman double pass against Baltimore. You don't do that in week four. You don't do it in week eleven. You don't do it in the first quarter.

You save that stuff.

You save that stuff.

Comedians don't use their best material in the first forty five seconds of their set. You get the audience ready, right, Like your best line in the movie is generally not in the first scene. And when I watch these teams constantly trying to chase points, just kick field goals. You're Washington. You're not holding these guys under thirty. They're just too powerful. Don't worry about a single point because if you fail on it, now you're chasing points, and that just doesn't end well. You put yourself in weird, precarious situations. I am a kick the pat. I know what analytics say, But do analytics tell you that Washington is missing their best offensive linemen and that Philadelphia to analytics tell you that Philadelphia their two best defensive linemen are better than anybody you have on the offensive line, and that the analytics tell you about Philadelphia's corners who are emerging as stars, both of the rookies. So I just this whole thing about chasing points. It's fourteen twelve. You're throwing the ball out into the flat and trying Austin Eckler to beat two eagles. I didn't like the call first of all, but I didn't like the attempt. Save your special for the most special moments.

Comedians don't use their best material in the first forty five seconds of their set. You get the audience ready, right, Like your best line in the movie is generally not in the first scene. And when I watch these teams constantly trying to chase points, just kick field goals. You're Washington. You're not holding these guys under thirty. They're just too powerful. Don't worry about a single point because if you fail on it, now you're chasing points, and that just doesn't end well. You put yourself in weird, precarious situations. I am a kick the pat. I know what analytics say, But do analytics tell you that Washington is missing their best offensive linemen and that Philadelphia to analytics tell you that Philadelphia their two best defensive linemen are better than anybody you have on the offensive line, and that the analytics tell you about Philadelphia's corners who are emerging as stars, both of the rookies. So I just this whole thing about chasing points. It's fourteen twelve. You're throwing the ball out into the flat and trying Austin Eckler to beat two eagles. I didn't like the call first of all, but I didn't like the attempt. Save your special for the most special moments.

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Well, I've just come to terms with whenever we have a big game, the losing team is going to complain about officiating. That's the only thing I don't like about games. And I think if you're Buffalo and you're reducing that game to two inches on a fourth down, you're missing the point. You know, there's an old saying, and Josh Allen said, this to be the champ, you have to beat decisively, the Champ and the Chiefs. You can't hold your breath and make this play your life preserver. There were still thirteen minutes left, you still had the game. Both teams were going to get minimum two offensive possessions. And from that point forward, Kansas City outscored Buffalo eleven to seven and had a two point conversion and most of all, what happened to Buffalo their final drives right like, basically their season was reduced to this great player. Josh Allen semi hail Mary to Dalton Kincaid, who dropped it CBS kind of glossed over that, like that was a big play. Maybe not Mark Andrews easy, but that is Dalton Kincaid's good player. That's what your season was reduced to. Look in the mirror, add libbing Josh Allen on fourth and ones. So there was a lot of ballgame left and on that blitz that spags. We can show it again, a pro ball corner left unblocked and they knew what side Josh Allen would roll to. I mean, Kansas City had the tush push figured out. They knew where you were going to roll. It's called coaching, it's called execution. And Sean McDermott is a defensive head coach. How come every time they play Kansas City the Chiefs drop thirty to thirty five points. This was the most points Kansas City scored all year. Think about that. That doesn't even make sense. They didn't look good last week or several weeks before. For most of the season, we felt like, why did Xavier Worthy just pop in this game? Well, part of it was a weakness for Kansas weakness for Buffalo is their safety and cornerback health. So if you want to just cling to going on the road. If I would have told you as a Bills fan you went on the road, and I would have said, you're two for six on tush pushes. Dalton Kin Kaid potentially drops the winner, You're reduced to a Hail Mary on your final big play of the season, and Kansas City scores their most points all year. Oh, by the way, you'll fumble four times. You would have thought you had been blown out. You were lucky to recover all four of them. But and James Cook didn't touch it. Final drive here was McDermott after.

Well, I've just come to terms with whenever we have a big game, the losing team is going to complain about officiating. That's the only thing I don't like about games. And I think if you're Buffalo and you're reducing that game to two inches on a fourth down, you're missing the point. You know, there's an old saying, and Josh Allen said, this to be the champ, you have to beat decisively, the Champ and the Chiefs. You can't hold your breath and make this play your life preserver. There were still thirteen minutes left, you still had the game. Both teams were going to get minimum two offensive possessions. And from that point forward, Kansas City outscored Buffalo eleven to seven and had a two point conversion and most of all, what happened to Buffalo their final drives right like, basically their season was reduced to this great player. Josh Allen semi hail Mary to Dalton Kincaid, who dropped it CBS kind of glossed over that, like that was a big play. Maybe not Mark Andrews easy, but that is Dalton Kincaid's good player. That's what your season was reduced to. Look in the mirror, add libbing Josh Allen on fourth and ones. So there was a lot of ballgame left and on that blitz that spags. We can show it again, a pro ball corner left unblocked and they knew what side Josh Allen would roll to. I mean, Kansas City had the tush push figured out. They knew where you were going to roll. It's called coaching, it's called execution. And Sean McDermott is a defensive head coach. How come every time they play Kansas City the Chiefs drop thirty to thirty five points. This was the most points Kansas City scored all year. Think about that. That doesn't even make sense. They didn't look good last week or several weeks before. For most of the season, we felt like, why did Xavier Worthy just pop in this game? Well, part of it was a weakness for Kansas weakness for Buffalo is their safety and cornerback health. So if you want to just cling to going on the road. If I would have told you as a Bills fan you went on the road, and I would have said, you're two for six on tush pushes. Dalton Kin Kaid potentially drops the winner, You're reduced to a Hail Mary on your final big play of the season, and Kansas City scores their most points all year. Oh, by the way, you'll fumble four times. You would have thought you had been blown out. You were lucky to recover all four of them. But and James Cook didn't touch it. Final drive here was McDermott after.

We got to keep working to get over that hump. There's no doubt about it. So we've won a lot of tough games this year against really good opponents, really good coaches, and I'm proud of this football team for it. So this is, you know, obviously a challenge for us. We'll figure it out.

We got to keep working to get over that hump. There's no doubt about it. So we've won a lot of tough games this year against really good opponents, really good coaches, and I'm proud of this football team for it. So this is, you know, obviously a challenge for us. We'll figure it out.

So I've said this, I think Sean McDermott's a good coach, But good coaches don't go in and face Michael Jordan and Phil Jackson and win the championship. I mean, you look at all those Sonics, Jazz ARLs Barkley's sons, very good teams. Jordan Pippen, Phil Jackson, all time greats, right, Jordan the best player, Pippen the best, Robin, Phil Jackson the best coach, and they have home court advantage. So you're not. And what do you do with Sean McDermott. Well, he's too good of a coach to let go. I always feel he is the defensive version of Mike McCarthy, and I think Mike McCarthy is a B plus coach, highly employable. I feel like McDermott is an organizer and if your organization is a bit of a mess, he'll organize it. He reminds me of Chuck Knox, who was known for playoffs struggles. Chuck Knox, uh, And that's was Chuck puk Knock's reputation. He got tight in playoff games. They called him ground Chuck. He'd go to the ground. He wouldn't throw the football like Buffalo in the second half. They wouldn't throw the football. It's like, you got Josh Allen here, what are we doing? And so I feel like he's very good at organizing. But my take is so was Andy Reid. And Andy Reid's also a creative visionary, so both of them are detailed both are organized. Both are good coaches. One's a visionary. There were a lot of good coaches that faced Michael Jordan and Phil Jackson. One coach had the triangle, one coach had MJ. A lot of the parts in Chicago moved for years outside of Pippin. A lot of the bigs, the wings, the shooters, a lot of guys, A lot of guys moved, Phil Scotti, Michael, that's when they were great, Spags, Reid Mahomes, Chris Jones, Kelsey, that's when they're great. So I this stuff. It is easy to blame officials on this stuff, but it's a tired act. I felt the first drive of the game really told you everything. Buffalo, almost through two picks, look nervous and aimless. Kansas City Odd obviously looked at film and stead attack the middle of Buffalo's defense attack it went right at it and marched down the field. So the other play in the game, which was it's that Xavier Worthy play or it's a semi alley loup by Patrick Mahomes and the CBS former official, made it very clear who has the ball in the air doesn't matter. Just like a pass, you have to complete the play, and I thought it was intercepted. I thought it was intercepted. The world did. But who has the ball when the play is completed? And so when I looked at that right, Buffalo gets it first. But in the end that split second when you watch in slow mo replay, now who has the ball? And what was interesting Buffalo challenged on this even though Buffalo committed a clear holding penalty on the play, so they essentially and I didn't agree with the challenge, they challenged it for yardage. I would have saved that for later in the game. But again, you can get all worked up on that, but it's not who has it initially. It is just like a pass, who has it when the play is completed. I thought the CBS gene did a great job on that explained it. And you're not going to have a game ask yourself this, when is the last great game between legendary quarterbacks and big brands that we've watched for years and years and years that we thought was perfectly officiated. Well, Buffalo certainly wasn't perfectly coached. So it is interesting how often, like Houston last week, was complaining about the officials. Houston had the worst think about this Houston Special teams last week was the worst performance of the entire playoffs. Houston mangled a fourth down. Remember the announcer Akman screaming time out, call a timeout. So you know, a lot of this stuff is you want the game to be officiated perfectly, but even in replay, you often have to watch something three and four and five times. When I was a kid, you'd go to the light library to watch microfilm, you know, you that's what we use back then. Like when you have officials and people in the league offices having to watch something for ninety seconds to two and a half minutes, it tells you it's kind of a go either way play. And so in the end, Buffalo had it early. Worthy appear to have at least fifty percent of the possession late and if you have half of it, the tie goes to the receiver like in baseball, tie goes to the runner. So and I think it's it's there is this sense and I felt that when I lived in Connecticut worked at the other place with New England, it was this constant sense of Hey, it's like the league wants Brady to win. But I think that discontent is misguided. My take is go back to the opening drive. If you look at statistics, remember Buffalo got the opening kickoff, they defer, so Kansas City gets the ball at home, takes a seven to nothing lead, and is getting the ball back in the second half. Right there, five minutes in, you have a sixty five percent chance of winning the game just on the first drive. The home team scores first and is getting the ball to start the second half. You take a seven to nothing lead after two drives, one each team. The percentages now are clearly in your favor. Doesn't mean the game doesn't change, but that was an analytic advantage of some note right there, J Mack, I haven't let you talk much this hour, so you can fire away on thought coaching between Spags and Andy. I thought they were really good, really exceptional.

So I've said this, I think Sean McDermott's a good coach, But good coaches don't go in and face Michael Jordan and Phil Jackson and win the championship. I mean, you look at all those Sonics, Jazz ARLs Barkley's sons, very good teams. Jordan Pippen, Phil Jackson, all time greats, right, Jordan the best player, Pippen the best, Robin, Phil Jackson the best coach, and they have home court advantage. So you're not. And what do you do with Sean McDermott. Well, he's too good of a coach to let go. I always feel he is the defensive version of Mike McCarthy, and I think Mike McCarthy is a B plus coach, highly employable. I feel like McDermott is an organizer and if your organization is a bit of a mess, he'll organize it. He reminds me of Chuck Knox, who was known for playoffs struggles. Chuck Knox, uh, And that's was Chuck puk Knock's reputation. He got tight in playoff games. They called him ground Chuck. He'd go to the ground. He wouldn't throw the football like Buffalo in the second half. They wouldn't throw the football. It's like, you got Josh Allen here, what are we doing? And so I feel like he's very good at organizing. But my take is so was Andy Reid. And Andy Reid's also a creative visionary, so both of them are detailed both are organized. Both are good coaches. One's a visionary. There were a lot of good coaches that faced Michael Jordan and Phil Jackson. One coach had the triangle, one coach had MJ. A lot of the parts in Chicago moved for years outside of Pippin. A lot of the bigs, the wings, the shooters, a lot of guys, A lot of guys moved, Phil Scotti, Michael, that's when they were great, Spags, Reid Mahomes, Chris Jones, Kelsey, that's when they're great. So I this stuff. It is easy to blame officials on this stuff, but it's a tired act. I felt the first drive of the game really told you everything. Buffalo, almost through two picks, look nervous and aimless. Kansas City Odd obviously looked at film and stead attack the middle of Buffalo's defense attack it went right at it and marched down the field. So the other play in the game, which was it's that Xavier Worthy play or it's a semi alley loup by Patrick Mahomes and the CBS former official, made it very clear who has the ball in the air doesn't matter. Just like a pass, you have to complete the play, and I thought it was intercepted. I thought it was intercepted. The world did. But who has the ball when the play is completed? And so when I looked at that right, Buffalo gets it first. But in the end that split second when you watch in slow mo replay, now who has the ball? And what was interesting Buffalo challenged on this even though Buffalo committed a clear holding penalty on the play, so they essentially and I didn't agree with the challenge, they challenged it for yardage. I would have saved that for later in the game. But again, you can get all worked up on that, but it's not who has it initially. It is just like a pass, who has it when the play is completed. I thought the CBS gene did a great job on that explained it. And you're not going to have a game ask yourself this, when is the last great game between legendary quarterbacks and big brands that we've watched for years and years and years that we thought was perfectly officiated. Well, Buffalo certainly wasn't perfectly coached. So it is interesting how often, like Houston last week, was complaining about the officials. Houston had the worst think about this Houston Special teams last week was the worst performance of the entire playoffs. Houston mangled a fourth down. Remember the announcer Akman screaming time out, call a timeout. So you know, a lot of this stuff is you want the game to be officiated perfectly, but even in replay, you often have to watch something three and four and five times. When I was a kid, you'd go to the light library to watch microfilm, you know, you that's what we use back then. Like when you have officials and people in the league offices having to watch something for ninety seconds to two and a half minutes, it tells you it's kind of a go either way play. And so in the end, Buffalo had it early. Worthy appear to have at least fifty percent of the possession late and if you have half of it, the tie goes to the receiver like in baseball, tie goes to the runner. So and I think it's it's there is this sense and I felt that when I lived in Connecticut worked at the other place with New England, it was this constant sense of Hey, it's like the league wants Brady to win. But I think that discontent is misguided. My take is go back to the opening drive. If you look at statistics, remember Buffalo got the opening kickoff, they defer, so Kansas City gets the ball at home, takes a seven to nothing lead, and is getting the ball back in the second half. Right there, five minutes in, you have a sixty five percent chance of winning the game just on the first drive. The home team scores first and is getting the ball to start the second half. You take a seven to nothing lead after two drives, one each team. The percentages now are clearly in your favor. Doesn't mean the game doesn't change, but that was an analytic advantage of some note right there, J Mack, I haven't let you talk much this hour, so you can fire away on thought coaching between Spags and Andy. I thought they were really good, really exceptional.

Spags Blitz was outstanding. You knew that was coming.

Spags Blitz was outstanding. You knew that was coming.

I just it's funny you brought up the worthy catch. It is if you want to look at you can so many ways to look at this game. But essentially the three highest leverage plays all went Kansas City's way. That worthy thing, which, by the way, both announcers and the CBS guy all thought the ball hit the ground. That should not that should not have been a catch. Romo and Nance were pretty clear on that. Of course it goes Kansas City.

I just it's funny you brought up the worthy catch. It is if you want to look at you can so many ways to look at this game. But essentially the three highest leverage plays all went Kansas City's way. That worthy thing, which, by the way, both announcers and the CBS guy all thought the ball hit the ground. That should not that should not have been a catch. Romo and Nance were pretty clear on that. Of course it goes Kansas City.

Was also there was also a penalty against Buffalo. It was the ball would have been moved forward.

Was also there was also a penalty against Buffalo. It was the ball would have been moved forward.

They would all would have been moved forward. But again, move it into the red zone. They get to touchdown, maybe they hold them to the field goal.

They would all would have been moved forward. But again, move it into the red zone. They get to touchdown, maybe they hold them to the field goal.

So that's one.

So that's one.

Two is the Kincaid drop, and boy, there are multiple angles floating around the internet. It wasn't as bad as Mark Andrew's. But that's a brutal drop by Kincaid. And I know he was coming back to the ball.

Two is the Kincaid drop, and boy, there are multiple angles floating around the internet. It wasn't as bad as Mark Andrew's. But that's a brutal drop by Kincaid. And I know he was coming back to the ball.

But that's two. So the high leverage worthy hits the ground, shouldn't.

But that's two. So the high leverage worthy hits the ground, shouldn't.

The count Okay, we'll give it to the Chiefs. Kinkaid drop goes to the Chiefs. And then of course the fourth down run by Josh Allen. And I know you hated the Church push and the Chiefs already, but it should be noted. Colin Warren Sharp on social media pulled the video. One referee on the sideline comes down the line essentially saying he got to the marker. He gets overruled by the other referee, and it's like, why did that happen? How did the guy on the bottom say, I've got a better angle than you. And it's just like one of those things, each of those three plays when Kansas City's way.

The count Okay, we'll give it to the Chiefs. Kinkaid drop goes to the Chiefs. And then of course the fourth down run by Josh Allen. And I know you hated the Church push and the Chiefs already, but it should be noted. Colin Warren Sharp on social media pulled the video. One referee on the sideline comes down the line essentially saying he got to the marker. He gets overruled by the other referee, and it's like, why did that happen? How did the guy on the bottom say, I've got a better angle than you. And it's just like one of those things, each of those three plays when Kansas City's way.

I looked at some of the numbers last night in.

I looked at some of the numbers last night in.

This Josh Allen Mahomes battle. The numbers are almost equal. They have been virtual equals. The only difference is Kansas City has won all four playoff games.

This Josh Allen Mahomes battle. The numbers are almost equal. They have been virtual equals. The only difference is Kansas City has won all four playoff games.

That's it.

That's it.

And it's not like I know Mahomes is the goat, but this idea that like Josh Allen is chopped liver and mish Mahomes is the goat, the difference is like minuscapt Maholmes inherent Sean McDermott and Alan gets Andy Reid.

And it's not like I know Mahomes is the goat, but this idea that like Josh Allen is chopped liver and mish Mahomes is the goat, the difference is like minuscapt Maholmes inherent Sean McDermott and Alan gets Andy Reid.

Josh Allen is the goat. That's basically what Well, that's.

Josh Allen is the goat. That's basically what Well, that's.

What I'm saying. So you're acknowledging what I believe is that in high leverage games, the details and the coaching are the difference. They're both great, they're both all time.

What I'm saying. So you're acknowledging what I believe is that in high leverage games, the details and the coaching are the difference. They're both great, they're both all time.

I mean, listen, despite that twenty down eleven in Arrowhead and they came back to take the lead in the second half.

I mean, listen, despite that twenty down eleven in Arrowhead and they came back to take the lead in the second half.

No I thought the Bills were great.

No I thought the Bills were great.

These games are That's why I keep using the word luck, and I know you don't like it, and the Chiefs fans online cannot stand it, but things bounced their way, and I know the fumbles all went to Buffalo.

These games are That's why I keep using the word luck, and I know you don't like it, and the Chiefs fans online cannot stand it, but things bounced their way, and I know the fumbles all went to Buffalo.

Also, It's just a great game, just unfortunately.

Also, It's just a great game, just unfortunately.

I thought Buffalo when Josh Allen went over the top and lost it and and they regained it when there was like four guys in red, I'm like, how how did Buffalo? I've never heard of a team fumbling four times in a playoff game and recovering all of them. That is unheard of.

I thought Buffalo when Josh Allen went over the top and lost it and and they regained it when there was like four guys in red, I'm like, how how did Buffalo? I've never heard of a team fumbling four times in a playoff game and recovering all of them. That is unheard of.

I thought it was Buffalo's night when that was happening.

I thought it was Buffalo's night when that was happening.

So the one thing before the Josh Allen sneak with the with the no first down, Dalton Kincaid was tackled near the line and Buffalo rushed up, so we didn't get a good replay. But there's people online clamoring look at Kincaid's knee wasn't down, he like landed on the chief should have been a first.

So the one thing before the Josh Allen sneak with the with the no first down, Dalton Kincaid was tackled near the line and Buffalo rushed up, so we didn't get a good replay. But there's people online clamoring look at Kincaid's knee wasn't down, he like landed on the chief should have been a first.

And that's the problem with these with these high leverage spots. Well, you know what, the first Super Bowl had two cameras. Playoff games now have thirty five. There's been there have been misses my entire life. You just didn't see them.

And that's the problem with these with these high leverage spots. Well, you know what, the first Super Bowl had two cameras. Playoff games now have thirty five. There's been there have been misses my entire life. You just didn't see them.