Colin takes aim at the people continuing to hype Bronny James as an NBA player when he's clearly not at that level after a disappointing performance against the 76ers
He looks at where the Cowboys rank in the NFL right now in quarterback - head coach combos after hiring Brian Schottenheimer
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So there's an old in pro sports. He can't fool the players. Okay, you can't fool the pro athletes. They know the stars, they know the soft spots, they know the weaknesses. So last night Ad got hurt, Lakers went into the tank, got blown out by Philadelphia. Well, the Lakers had recently called up Brownie. Well, Brownie had his best game as a G leaguer, so of course let's rush him to the Lakers. So he got on the floor last night. You can't fool the players. Tyrese Maxi went right after him and cooked him. And it's just amazing. In the NFL, media, coaches, fans, anybody, you can have real grown up conversations. You can hold players accountable. There's no walking on eggshells. There's a way to measure success in the NBA. You have to pretend that Brownie's an NBA player because otherwise you'll upset the king. So he has a good G league game. Guys go off in G league all the time, doesn't mean anything. And they get him to the Lakers and they want a play him. And remember he is a six to two guard. That's a non point guard. I've never seen that existing in the current NBA, And go back twenty years. To be a two guard six four and a half minimum, got to be able to shoot, some, be a playmaker.
Some.
He's six to two, got cooked on defense and has not scored in thirty eight minutes on the floor. Thirty eight minutes as a pro is the last time he got a basket. But JJ Reddick instead of just being honest, pandered here he is. Maybe put him in a tough spot, you know, flying.
Up yesterday and you know nationally televise game and Philly and all that stuff. It's you know, he didn't play well, but he's been playing great, you know, in the Stay ready games, and he's been playing great in the g So I've confidence in him.
You did not put him in a tough spot. He is one for sixteen in the NBA from the floor, over seven on threes and can't be a point guard and got cooked defensively. Let's just be totally honest about this. He's a six to two guard that can't shoot in a league where seven foot four guys can. He's not an NBA player. He was not a great high school player. He was a good high school player. He wasn't a good college player. He was a college player, and he's not an NBA player. And he may be a great kid. I'm sure he is. Lebron's a nice guy. I've met him. But this is what gets fifty seven million people watch the NFL this weekend. It's tough men emotionally and physically that you can have real conversations with Can we stop pretending on this? Come on, let's just stop pretending. This was not a tough spot tyrese Max. He's a great player and cooked him and you rushed him up because hey, he had a good G League game. Oh god, this is what the Clippers have done with Kawhi Leonard. It's been years of pandering. M Beiden Philadelphia, the baby sitting in New Orleans with Zion In the NBA, they had to ban phones from players during games. They were using him at halftime timeouts. They had to ban players from using phones during games. You don't have to do that with grown ups. They understand they're at work, they're gonna work hard. And I think of the many reasons the NFL is separated from the NBA is the NFL is a serious league. The games matter, it's adults, it's men, it's real conversation, Like, there's no pandry. We're not gonna see Jalen Hurt's son, you know, wedged into the Eagles to play running back. No, it's Takuon Barkley. He's better than anybody. And I think this goes back to some of the issues the NBA has not a single NBA reporter would even touch this with a ten foot poll this thing. What are we doing here? Nice kid, maybe a G League player, but thirty eight on the floor hasn't scored a basket. He's a six to two none ball handling guard. What are we doing? What are we pretending grown up conversations? Don't be terrified walk on eggshells. I've seen it time and time again. Last night came in three turnovers zero for five. Look terrified, nervous, and the sixers You can't fool players went right after him. You can't fool players. When the red light comes on, you know who can do it and who can't. This continues to be an un serious story. What you don't want to become is an un serious league. The NFL you take it seriously. Because they take it seriously, they don't have to ban phones from their players. Irritating. Okay, So if you didn't see it, and I know you're busy, the Jerry Jones Shotneimer conference, by all accounts, was so weird. I went home yesterday and watched big chunks of it. So weird. So Dak Prescott said yesterday, Hey, my future is tied to Brian Schottenheim or the new coach. And you know that's a major red flag. In real estate, it's about two things. Great location, great kitchen. You'll always sell the home. Locations great kitchen's great. Rest of the house can be a tire fire, it doesn't matter, you'll sell the home. The NFL is a head coach quarterback league. You can be bad at linebacker. You don't have to have a great offensive line. You can be weak at safety, you don't have to have an elite corner. It doesn't matter. Head coach is great, coach is great. You're gonna be really good. There are eight combos in the NFL right now that I would consider elite head coach quarterback combo. I don't understand one of them, but there are eight that you can't deny. You're getting a really good quarterback and a really good coach, and you can figure it out. Reid and Mahomes, McVeigh and Stafford both hardballs, with Lamar and Justin Matt lafleuor Jordan Love, Sean McDermot, Josh All. You may not love Jordan Love or Sean McDermott, but they're good. Dan Campbell, Jared goff, Nick Sirianni hurts. I can't explain Nick Sirianni. I can't explain his success. I'm not gonna try to. His methodology's weird. But the guy wins, and they love him and the players love him, and so be it. And and that's that's the eight teams, eight for eight, by the way, in the playoffs. And just ask yourself, where does Schottenheimer and Dak fit in the league? If that's the elite eight, where do they fit? Two things are true. Schottenheimer didn't call plays for a seven and ten team and was given the job. That's strange. And Dak is coming off a second lower body injury and he got worse after the last one. So I'm not I mean, I know Dak Schottenheimer is better than Derek Carr with no coach, and I think it's better than Bill Levis and Brian Callahan. But if you gave me Dave Kanalis and Bryce Young for the next two years, I'd take the Carolina guys. I take Baker and Todd Bowles today, absolutely, Mike Rabel, Drake may absolutely Caleb ben Johnson without an argument. So this is a coach quarterback league. And through all the weirdness of the press conference. Now with a second lower body injury, Dak saying, I'm tying it to Brian Schottenheimer. Just ask yourself, where would you put them in the league. Don't listen to me. You think about it. Now, where do you stack them? Because there's eight and we don't. I think Sean mcdermot's a good coach. Do I think he's great. I think he lacks some nuance offensively, Sirianni, I don't get necessarily. Jordan loves a very talented quarterback, more talented than Dak. He's not great yet, little too reckless. Lafleur's outstanding. But just ask yourself. I would take Kevin O'Connor of the Vikings, not even knowing who his quarterback is today. Kevin O'Connell, excuse me, I would take him today. I don't even know if they're gonna play Daniel Jones, JJ McCarthy or Sam Darnold. I would take that. So that's the real warning sign. Kitchen location. You'll always sell a home head coach and quarterback or elite, you're fine. I like Brian Dabole, There's only so much he could do with Daniel Jones. One of them has to be an A and the other one has to be B plus plus to A minus, or it doesn't work in this league, or you get fired in this league. So you know that's as I'm watching this press conference and Dak saying I'm gonna tie it to Schottenheimer, my take is, wow. I mean we had reservations before. Wow is where it lands Andy Reid in forty five minutes now, j Mac, I know you are on this Brownie is going to emerge as an NBA star. So as I led with that today, I don't want to come across is I don't. I don't hope the kid doesn't do well, But there is an over I would say. There is a reality of the NBA that continues is that the media that covers it is Baseball's is romantic. They romance the past of baseball. That's not really what NBA is. The NBA is terrified to lose access to stars. So we're all pretending this brawny thing is a real story. And it's like the minute he's on the floor, the Sixers are like attack. This is, by the way, what happens. This is what Brady and Mahomes do when in a cornerback gets hurt. You sub in a corner fresh from the bench, and Brady and Mahomes are like, attack.
Benford got hurt for the Bill the minute.
There album, the minute they went on the floor. Attack. So the players are telling you, what are we doing here? Thirty eight minutes without a basket a six to two non point guard because he had a good G League game. You know, you know what the There's always been a question and we haven't answer to it now. There's always been a question, what would it look like if you put a athletic non NBA player in an NBA game? What would he look like? That's I think I'm being totally fair. I do not think I'm being unfair.
You know, the audience can't see this, but I couldn't make eye contact with you.
You were so upset once you started.
Unloading on the not like two year.
Old rookie who who was put in by JJ Reddick.
Like Reddick gave a great press conference.
I know we only showed a little clip, but he was like, listen, we're on a back to back, We're in the midst of a six game road trip. I wanted an energy guy, a little spark, so I put Bronni in early okay, and it didn't quite work out. You know, the Lakers have a tough stretch here for national TV games and I think ten days.
Why does it matter if they're on television?
Just the national TV games are a little more you know, the league really wants all the stars to play. And oh, by the way, Anthony Davis goes down in the first first half and it's like, oh my god, for getting destroyed.
Listen, I think you're going a.
Little too hard one for fifteen.
He's not had a great rookie year so far, but he's twenty years old.
Dude, he's twenty What do you see that would lead you to believe he's not a great athlete.
I see an energy guy early in his career who comes off the bench provides some fiery let's go defense. I know it didn't show last night against Maxie, but it's tough to play defense when your rim protector is out injured. I don't know, you know, Ad, he's hurt now, looks like you might have jigged him on yesterday's show. Looks like he's gonna be out if reevaluated in two weeks.
You're becoming an NBA reporter. You know he's an energy guy. What does that mean.
He's a twenty year old guy who comes off the bench in a back to back setting.
What does that have to do with it? If you're twenty years old, who gives a rip about back?
You know it's an eighty two game season. Baseball is a long season. Hockey's a long season. He does it's tough to maintain energy.
He doesn't have a basket in thirty his last thirty eight minutes.
Hey, I've had cold stretches in my men's leagues. It happens to the best of us. But Colin, let's be real and I talked about this on my podcast. Like Kansas City Chiefs treated the regular season this year kind of like the NBA.
They were unseerious for the first month.
I know they may won to all their understand that, but if you watch what they did, they weren't trying to put up a ton of points, nothing exotic, and here they had their best offensive output in the conference championship game.
I think some of the elite NFL teams.
Patriots did this, are gonna start to hold back stuff for the play.
What does that they have to do with the Browny story that we're supposed to all pretend this is a real thing. If his dad wasn't lebron would he be on the team. Probably not in the NFL. Would you have somebody's son on the team.
That is totally different.
Okay, pause, the NFL, kid's gonna be. The NFL prioritizes winning. It's serious business. We don't have to ban phones from you.
Well, ninety NFL guys are done in the league by like thirty five. You know, you don't see a lot of forty years old the NFL.
Because the rosters are so huge, you could actually cheat on an NFL roster and find a place for a guy In the NBA when you're not the Celtics or OKC and loaded, there's no area to waste a roster spot. But at baseball you have a huge bullpen. I could see in baseball, football, hockey, you could slide a guy on for a quick line. In the NBA, you got how many roster spots.
Listen, Bronnie is averaging twenty three, six and five in the G League, shooting forty five percent on threes. There is growth that we can at least admit that a twenty year old showing growth in the G League.
I'm not saying he's gonna be a star or even an All star.
What set me off is JJ Reddicks. I put him in a bad spot. No, you didn't. You put him in a spot. He made the spot bad. You didn't put him in a bad spot, A bad spot. You're twenty years old. We're playing the Sixers on TV. Do you want to play? No, it's a really bad spot for me. It's a chance of a lifetime put him in. That's what sets me off. I like lebron and I said what Bronny came out and played with his dad. I was like cool, Like Ken Griffy and Ken Griffy Senior both great. Ken Griffy Junior is obviously the top five ten great players of all time. I understood the initial let's play him, But now you're trying to like you're gonna guilt me into believing it's a real thing. I gave you the opening game, I give you the fun of it. I'm not anti anything, but you can't make me now want to buy into it, Like I'm done, Like stop with this.
Well, they also got injuries Gabe Vincent did not play last night. You know Shake Milton who was part of that DFS trait six minutes, like, you know, back to back. I know it sound like I'm making excuses for Lebron And.
How don't we just measure basketball players like we do pro football players?
Why pro football players play eighteen games over four months the NBA season that last all year and tackle.
Each other at full speed so you're physically it's it does a level.
Homes is not lining up in the secondary in addition to being quarterback.
Let's stop with the NBA NFL comparisons.
Come on, well, there is no comparison. Not Jason Tatum made his NBA debut at nineteen years old. Was he in bad spots? No, he was asked to be good.
Wait, Jason Tatum the top three pick in the draft, the superstar from Duke.
This was the weakest NBA draft some said, ever, yeah, it was.
It was not great.
So my question was always what if it was a good draft, would you find a spot for him? Then, by the way, there's stories the Lakers called people not to draft him. You okay with that? I yeah, nobody's thrilled with that. I'm not thrilled with any of it. But we all played along for a week. I'm not gonna play along anymore.
Their fifth in the West. What else do you want? Let him play the young kid? Come on, I have a heart coward.
I know I come across as I guess. It's this. There's two stories to every sports and I wrote it in my first book about this. There's two things happening with every story. The one we feed the public and the truth. What we're feeding the public is nonsense, it's bs. The truth is a six to two non ball handled guard who can't shoot. What are we doing? It makes me be the ogre on the air and the bad guy. But it's like, what are we doing here? Let's be serious as a sport. Let's talk about serious stuff, real players. And again I come across as bad guy, like I'm beating up on it. But it's like you drafted him, you called teams told not to draft it, You move him up, and now you're reduced to I put the kid in a bad spot. I'm just over it. I'm over with the story. I'm done, no more stories on this. Well you can do him and hurt god, Ronnie. I will just do this. When you talk about it, I'll just turn my mic coffee. I'm done. You've been thinking about home security. Now is the time to join millions of Americans who trust simply safe stops break ins. Go to simply safecolin dot com fifty percent and off a new system. There's no safe like simply If I'm just going to turn the mic off this point forward.
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So there's an argument after Patrick Mahomes, I don't even know if there is an argument. The best player in the game is Saquon Barkley and I was looking this morning at this season's numbers. He's number one in everything except rushing touchdowns and he's got eighteen. The kids unbelievable, all class. And I started a company a few years ago, and I called a bunch of smart people. I called like Mark Cuban. I called people had been very successful, and I said, hey, give me a piece of business advice. And you know all of them have kind of the same messages. But I remember this piece of advice from somebody hit a bunch of doubles, and you'll have a successful business because other companies will make mistakes. You don't have to hit home runs, hit doubles. You'd be amazed how often somebody makes a mistake. And that's how Saquon Barkley ended up with the Philadelphia Eagles. Drew Brees became a saint because a Miami Dolphin's doctor wouldn't clear him mistake. Reggie White became a packer he was in Philadelphia. Their owner, Norman Brahman, was so cheap and shortsighted. He not only hired Rich code type arguably the worst head coach ever, but he charged players for equipment to maximize profits. It was a second tier organization. Roger Woodson Charles Woodson went from to Green Bay immediate Super Bowl. Why because old Al Davis thought he was Jerry Jones and was a GM and the owner and at that point was weird and frugal and making terrible decisions. And you start looking around Brady and Tampa. Bill thought he was done. Bill couldn't provide him with the receivers. He started to alienate Tom and in the end he had no succession plan. They made a big mistake. Brady, even after all the years in Tampa, was still a top seven eight quarterback. So when I look at the Saquon Barkley situation, you had Joe Shane, a GM in New York who bought into this silly online media narrative that running backs had topped out, they had no value long term. And as we said, it was March eleventh or something like that was the day that it happened. I said, he's not only is he going to succeed in Philadelphia, but because the Giants O line was so bad and they have no star weapons on the perimeter. You can cheat when you play the Giants against Saquon, you can stack the box. But with aj Brown and Devonte Smith, the safeties are off the line, and the old lines first or second best in the league. It's not like he's going to be good in Philly. He's going to be dominant. Don't even listen to any of these people on the internet. Go pay a running back, go buy him. This was a huge mistake. And we watched HBO Max, we watched the Giants in Mara Now ridiculous. It was so this is an organization. They paid Daniel Jones and they let Saquon Barkley walk. And I belie leave this to my core. You do not have to be a genius to get rich. You do not have to be brilliant. You don't have to be like Elon Musk Zuckerberg tech whiz to be very successful, hit doubles in life, and then wait for other people to make big mistakes. That's it. Just don't take all the wild big swings regularly. An occasional big swing. But I mean all Philadelphia did was go, well, man, if this guy's rushing for that in New York with no weapons on the outside to keep safeties out of the box in the bad old line and Daniel Jones, what is he going to do here? I mean, of all Howie Roseman's moves, it's actually not that impressive. It's obvious. The fact that it was available is nuts. It was just another mistake. It could be a Miami doctor, a bad owner in Philadelphia, a grumpy coach in New England. Just wait, that's the only time Hall of Fame level talent in their primes available. Right. The free agent market is generally you know, it's it's got kind of a Jimmy Butler feel to it where good player aging wants big money. That's always kind of what free agency feels like. I'm not saying Jimmy Butler can't play. I think he would make the Warriors better, but I'm not gonna build my franchise around him. I'm not giving him huge money. Does he fit? Can he make us better? On the Steph Curry timeline, I mean, this was a Hall of Fame talent in their prime and somebody let him walk, like somebody did with Charles Woodson, Reggie White and Drew Brees. J Mack with the News.
No, no, this is the herdline News.
All right. Let's start with the interesting comment here from Jalen Hurts after they won the NFC Championship. I think he joked that Nick Sirianni let me out of my straight jacket a little bit.
Uh, And then of course the pilly media was.
Like, whoa, there is still the roof between these two. Sirianni addressed it yes esterday. Down Playing Hurts is common, but.
We've been winning a couple of different ways this year. I think he's just having fun after the game. Uh, you know, but I know this, like and he said this, plenty of times, I don't care how we win. I don't care how we win, as long as we win and we do everything we can do to be able to win.
I think we all understood. I didn't think it was a big deal. I thought that was fine.
But the problem is that it Hurts is like kind of a serious guy.
You know, I locked around the briefcase and I love him.
So was this a joke or was this like dry humor from Jalen Hurts.
I don't know the answer to that.
Well, I think Jalen Hurts has felt fairly that they've sort of built the offense more around the run game, reduced his numbers of throws, and he was saying, hey, I got to let loose a little bit, and because Washington's defense is not as good. First of all, I love his personality. I wish every quarterback in the league, you know. I love that Justin Herbert or Jalen Hurts personality, no nonsense, all business, briefcase to work, don't give the media anything. I love him, But I do think this team is better when it is geared around Sakwon Barkley. And that's and it's funny because I'll watch Philadelphia play and it's there are times and I feel I don't feel this about anybody, including the Chiefs. There are drives and quarters with the Eagles that I wonder how they ever punt. They do everything, And when Jalen is in his rhythm and he's not always, there are times he feels a little off and half the time I think he's hurt. He's never one hundred percent, But I don't feel like I necessarily always get elite guy from the pocket with Jalen Hurts, and I think the organization sees it. Everybody in the league sees it. Greg Cosel sees it on the film, and so they've built it to not depend on him. And in this game he got to cook a little and he was great. But I don't take I don't listen in Philadelphia. You say anything. If you said this in Tampa doesn't make the news. You say it in Philadelphia, It's on w for the next six hours.
The only issue is there were many, many reports, from a lot of credible reports. I think Breer was one of them who had Sirianni and Hurts rifted in the off season.
Then you had the.
Former player I want to say Fletcher Cootts came out and said, A. J.
Brown and Jalen Hurts don't get along.
Remember on the radio, It's like, why do we keep having these like squabbles inside the Philadelphia locker room? What all they do is pretty much win. Like that's that can't be good one.
I think it is just this goes back to what I said. There are families in America. Sebastian Manikowsko jokes.
About, oh yeah.
The stand up comedian this family. All that did was argue and yell, and it was just combustible, and yet they love each other. Is that not every family. Some families are loud and they're combustible and they argue, and that's their sign. You know, what do they say about people in Boston When people are giving you crap in Boston, it's a sign of affection. They you're you're officially one of us, you know, goodwill hunting, you watch the bar scenes. If we can make fun of you, you're one of us. And I think Philadelphia is a different town, highly emotional. The Roster's got some emotional guys. I think Sirianni feeds into that, and I think it works for them. That's my conclusion because I can't figure it out. I think it works for them.
Well, it sure works when they're rolling.
You know, Let's see what happens if they're three and five next year at the start of the season.
Let's see how that well love language is going. It's gonna come off. Huh pretty good.
Next story is uh oh, this this is an interesting one. So Mike McCarthy is officially pulling his name out of the coaching search in New Orleans and he will be looking for a job in twenty twenty six.
Very interesting that.
He seemed in lock for the Saints job and now it looks like it's going to Kellen Moore. McCarthy seemed deadline for the Bears job that went to Ben Johnson. You know, sometimes the world works in mysterious I think McCarthy dodged a bullet here big Well.
Yes, there was only one great job last year. That was the Chargers, Harbaugh took him. I think there were two really interesting jobs this year, Drake May and the Patriots with the most cap space in the room. And I think the Bears is very interesting because the roster is good in Caleb. But if you think about j Mack there's about seven jobs open a year. If you go back a decade, there's always one really good job, and then there's a couple you're like, maybe that works, but over half are like Hasmatt spills, like you should not take them. I mean, New Orleans has zero cap space, they're in cap hell, and they don't have a star quarterback, and the quarterback's older and kind of expensive, and they don't have a lot of elite players. That's not an elite job. I mean, why would Mike McCarthy step in from one dysfunctional place to another place with major issues? So I think McCarthy just saying I'm gonna go to next year. I think it's I think it's this. I think I'm surprised that nobody offered him a job, but I think he's better off.
Well, how's this?
Why would Kellen Moore be looking to leave the Eagles because he's gonna go to the Saints?
Okay, but again, a million and a half a year to seven to ten, A lot of this is financial for you.
You know, we talk about this movies, sports media, like literally any job out there, you got to be careful just to get to the top spot because I'm telling you, man, this New Orleans Saint's job, Kellen Moore could be out of a job in two years, and then is he getting another head coach again.
Here's the thing, though, that is easier to say for like a Mike McCarthy who's made a ton of money. He's got a fifty million dollar net worth. That's harder to say to a young guy who's never gotten rich. We'll play football.
Is an NFL quarterback for five years. I know he wasn't making twenty million a year.
But he was at quarterback quarterback in the NFL.
He's been an offensive coordinator. You chasing money. He's only thirty six. I'm just telling you that you look at that same froster, that outlook.
It is not well.
I keep telling you stop chasing.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know. I talked about it elsewhere. I was said, and we won't talk about it on this show anyway. I'm a story, Colin.
Listen.
It's NFL Draft season and Daniel Jeremiah.
You know, we love that guy.
He's a very sharp individual. He has put out his initial mock draft. There are some surprises here.
Now. I don't think Jeremiah is one of.
These hot take guys looking to make noise.
But he has Abdul Carter from Penn State going number one.
He is the best player, believe.
I don't dispute him being I believe.
Abdull Carter's the best player. I think T Mac's the second best player receiver from Arizona.
So he has Team Mac going eighth to Carolina, which I like a lot.
Yeah, so this doesn't mean they're the best player. You're saying, this is what he's predicting where they go. Yes, now, Colin, let's be real. Brian Callahan finally got a head coaching job. I think they were two and fifteen against the spread. They were the worst team in the league. If they tried out Will Levis, Brian Callahan will be out of a job this time next year. He will not be coaching a third year. This is a true You can't.
Take Abdul Carter first. You cannot. You have to take a quarterback.
You do, So what are you gonna do?
Tell me the game plan? So Callahan keeps his job.
Give it to me. I think if you feel good, I mean, you've only been coaching one year. I think you go to your owner and say listen, we don't think these quarterbacks are b prospects. We can win seven games of what we have, which gives us the opportunity. After the Giants get their quarterback, and maybe the Browns or the Raiders get their quarterback, who's gonna need a quarterback next year? We're getting to a saturation point. There's like four teams next year that need a quarterback. If the Giants get THEIRS, if the Browns get THEIRS, if the Raiders get THEIRS, who needs a quarterback?
We just saw two NFL head coaches, Pierce and a Patriots guy, a Mayo, both one and done.
NFL owners are not sitting around and waiting.
I'm telling you Kellahan, if he does not take a quarterback or somehow look into Aaron Rodgers or something in free agency, he's gone after next season.
You know, it's funny. What's happening here is Shader Sanders and this happens is getting so nitpicked. Speaking of sons, proving that I I do like to see dad and sons when I think they're both legitimate. Shadure Sanders now is getting so nit picked. And we're so in love with Travis Hunter and cam Ward and I've I've talked to now three different gms. They all like Shador Sanders. They don't think he's an A plus plus. But I will just tell you Shadre Sanders is a starting quarterback in this league and is incredibly accurate moving left, moving right, off platform, going back. Chadure is an NFL quarterback. Why why you're not bashed Brownie in the opening, But let me tell you Shaduur Sanders a real player.
He has Chador going six to the Raiders.
We know if he goes to the Raiders, Pete Carroll is very lucky. You can do way worse than your first pick is Shader Sanders.
And the other issue I have with Jeremiah is Cleveland not taking a quarterback given Deshaun Watsons has popped his achilles twice, and you're gonna go Travis Hunter.
Listen. I like Hunter.
I don't know his generational stuff is overblown. Cam Ward to the New York Giant sounds good. Listen, It's how about my guy Tyler into the Jets.
I'm gonna tell you I love that.
Tyler Warren is a stud.
He's not brock Bauer stud, but he's really good and Mikhail Williams. Who Texas quarterbacks are you know still having nightmares about what he did to them in Texas earlier this season. Williams is an animal off the edge. I like him to New Orleans at nine.
Let me tell you something. If that kid from Arizona drops to eight, that will be the steel of the drag him and Bryce Young. There is a general manager I know who thinks that's the best player in the draft. Abdil Carter second, that Arizona kid. It was unstoppable in high school, unstoppable in college. Hey, I'm telling you he is unbelievable for what it's worth.
Jeremiah in his write up, compared McMillan T Mack to Drake London, which is good, not like.
No, no, no. I like Drake Dolondon a lot. He's better than Drake London, and I like Drake London a lot.
Drake by the excellent last one, Ashton gent and the Cowboys, which basically, Okay, can I.
Throw this at you, We'll get into the draft. The most overdrafted player is going to be Gent. So this is a great running back draft. It is unbelievable. The thirteenth, fourteenth best running back to me is eighty percent of gent.
You say it has two guys who are eighty percent both excellent.
This is not a draft to take a running back in the first round. It's just a lot. And he is not Saquon He's not Ezekiel Elliott. Or he's in a major conference and literally with a bad old line, and I mean had a battle line at Penn State, was unstoppable in a major conference. I like Gen, but in a stacked running back draft class, because.
I think this is an overreaction to the Penn State game. I'm you know, gend. You watch just the highlights.
He's good, He's good.
You look at orgon highlights, he looks like and I'm sorry to say that he looks like Barry Sanders and something highlight.
I have changed my I'm allowed to change my mind, and I have come to the conclusion this running back draft is the best in forever. I the player I'll use because I watched him play every game as the kid at USC what he marks. Woody Marx is listed as the fourteenth best running back in this draft. He is a starting running back in the NFL on twenty five twenty three teams. This draft is not a draft. You can get eighty percent of gent second, third, fourth round.
I know we're running along, but here the black Korum, who we loved coming out of Michigan.
Could barely get on the field with the Rams.
Well, he had an injury and I don't think he's ever quite been the same post injury there. I mean, I think that's where he broke his forearm.
Somebody's running back with major tread on the tires coming out of college.
I think you have to be a little cautious to that.
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Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the Herd.
Line news something. The Raiders get Shader Sanders if he falls to them. Man, that is because the Raiders need a quarterback, a receiver, and a back. They got their tackles, their center and Rock Bowers, they just needed they need a number one receiver, a quarterback, a number one running back. That because Pete's gonna coach the heck out of them.
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Yeah, I felt after that Bronnie opening, I need to dial it back a little bit, like coffee, a little change up, you know.
I supported Shader Sanders. I'm four great athletes having kids that play. I was a Ken Griffy junior freak forever. But don't pretend something's happening when it's not happening. That's all I'm saying about Brownie. So Pete Carroll was being very diplomatic. He was on a podcast yesterday and he was asked about the chance of a reconciliation or Russell Wilson could be on the market and he could be the Raiders quarterback, and Pete was being very diplomatic. It's so early.
I mean, we're just in the midst of just trying to find the puzzle pieces and I didn't get putting them together yet, So I really I can't. I can't even say. I mean, guys are still free. Agency hasn't come yet. That's the first competitive opportunity that will occur, and then the draft's coming will have that opportunity to do things. I can't tell you right now.
I mean I could guess, but it would just be a guess. Some movies they're not worth a sequel. And because I'm from the Pacific Northwest, the Pete Russ legion of Boom Seahawks, it was the first team my sister ever liked. My sister's not into sports. We started texting about sports on Sunday really connected because of Russell and the Seahawks. And there's two quarterbacks that Greg Cosell and I only two that I can think of, have ever really disagreed about. I like Trevor Lawrence and Russell always more than he did, and I may be zero for two. Trevor Lawrence does not have the obsessiveness I think you need to go from good to very good and great. He's plateaued. I'm not sure if he loves the sport. He's good at it, he's talented. I feel like this is just what he's willing to be, and we keep blaming coaches and Russell Wilson. I always thought he led the potential dynasty. It was him, not him alone, but him. But if you look back, he was small, he was creative, he was elusive. I'd never seen anything quite like him at the time. I think I compared him to a nineteen seventy quarterback fran Tarkenton or maybe Roger Staubach. I'd never quite seen it. I think he got other guys drafted, but Greg Cosell would always say he's not really good from the pocket. I can't really explain it, but it's almost like they're like, when he goes back to pass, he already knows that he's going to leave the pocket. He doesn't really feel comfortable in the pocket. Now, I think Jalen Hurtz is not a great pocket quarterback, but I do think he does feel comfortable in the pocket. I still don't think Russell does. I just couldn't see through the fog of Maybe it was my sister's love for the Seahawks. That was my favorite team growing up. But I would say this, not all movies need a sequel. The best the Seahawks were is when they were called Legion of Boom. And when the Seahawks started to regress, it was called let Russ Cook. And I thought it was great. I bought into the hype. But if I take a step back, I was kind of critical of the Pete Carrol Russell Wilson thing. I like, didn't get it. What do you do in Pete? But in the end, John Sneinder got himself out of Russ and built a great roster. Now they're still looking for a quarterback, but it is a really good roster in Seattle. And Denver got stuck with a quarterback they didn't want and now Pittsburgh's got a quarterback they're not sure about and probably don't want, and so I would say in this instance, no sequel. It was great, it was magical. It was really brief. It's not gonna be Brady Belichick. Some of this stuff in the NFL. Sam Darnold and the Vikings one year feels like it was perfect. Sam's gonna get paid. JJ McCarthy got hurt. It was one year, and I really feel like Russ and Seattle about Seattle needed a quarterback. They at one point they traded for Charlie Whitehurst. They didn't Matt Flynn, they didn't know Pete was in trouble seven and nine, seven and nine, we got to get a quarterback, and it was magical for about a six seven year run. Pete was out of USC You know, he's drafting all sorts of players in the fifth, sixth round that end up great players. But I've just come to terms with not every great head coach quarterback combo is any more than one year. Darnold and the Vikings one year was perfect. If you extended to four, you're probably getting in the way of JJ McCarthy's development. Just it was a one great year. The RUSS thing felt like six or seven really strong years. They probably could have moved off a couple of years earlier, and that's wrong on that one. Saints, for the record, still do not have a head coach Kellen Moore. My guess is the coach. They're just waiting for the Super Bowl to end. So I don't love the idea of hiring the last coach. That means you get the scraps on the coordinators and assistants. He'll have to take somebody from Philadelphia or several people on the Eagles staff. Andy Reid is around the corner the best coaching football. Maybe he certainly now he will join us live. This is the herd.