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Wherever you may be and however you may be listening or watching, Thanks for making us part of your day. Jmac, only a few football games left. I said a couple of weeks ago, I'm gonna take the Buffalo Bills to win the Super Bowl. I still feel very strongly about that. And how do you feel after the weekend?

Wherever you may be and however you may be listening or watching, Thanks for making us part of your day. Jmac, only a few football games left. I said a couple of weeks ago, I'm gonna take the Buffalo Bills to win the Super Bowl. I still feel very strongly about that. And how do you feel after the weekend?

Go build, baby, build mafia.

Go build, baby, build mafia.

Let's go all.

Let's go all.

Right, So let's start with this. The Buffalo Bills, and this is not generally what they have been since Josh Allen arrived. Avoided losing more than they won that football game, no turnovers and one penalty, smart, adult focused football. They've always been gifted, but a little loose, never quite disciplined, felt kind of reactionary. Not This team from the opening drive ran the ball, not heavily reliant on Josh Allen. It was clinical, it was effective much more than it was impressive. I mean, Josh Allen only had one hundred and forty seven yards total yards fewest of his career in a playoff game. Yet I've never been more impressed. This is what the Kansas City Chiefs did when they moved off Tyreek Hill. They went from a firework show to a more effective football team. And that's what I saw. Responsible football. One penalty. Jimmy Johnson's been saying this for years. You will lose more playoff football games then you'll win. Josh Allen sacked one time. He had four attempts. This is the strongest arm guy in the league. Josh Allen had only four attempts over ten yards. Now, the Ravens were bigger and flashier. They averaged seven point three yards of play. It was big Derrick Henry run, big pass by Lamar Jackson. They looked like Buffalo generally looks, but they had an ugly pick. They had a couple of fumbles, They had a drop two point conversion. Baltimore looked like Buffalo for years. Mark Andrews, great player in great tight end, picked a bad day to have the worst game of his career. Lamar Jackson all defend him. He played well enough to win. In fact, the Ravens never punted. I mean think about that, you get Lamar Jackson's gonna be MVP potentially. They never punted. They only got stopped when they stopped themselves, and that was the problem. They did and Buffalo didn't. They had thirty big plays, Bills had four. I watched that game and I thought, meet the Buffalo Bills. They are the new Kansas City Chiefs with a more dynamic offense. The Bills finally, finally, and we've been saying this all year, this is the best supporting cast. Josh has had maybe the worst defense, but they're finally comfortable being effective and by their standards, let's be truthful here, kind of boring by their standards.

Right, So let's start with this. The Buffalo Bills, and this is not generally what they have been since Josh Allen arrived. Avoided losing more than they won that football game, no turnovers and one penalty, smart, adult focused football. They've always been gifted, but a little loose, never quite disciplined, felt kind of reactionary. Not This team from the opening drive ran the ball, not heavily reliant on Josh Allen. It was clinical, it was effective much more than it was impressive. I mean, Josh Allen only had one hundred and forty seven yards total yards fewest of his career in a playoff game. Yet I've never been more impressed. This is what the Kansas City Chiefs did when they moved off Tyreek Hill. They went from a firework show to a more effective football team. And that's what I saw. Responsible football. One penalty. Jimmy Johnson's been saying this for years. You will lose more playoff football games then you'll win. Josh Allen sacked one time. He had four attempts. This is the strongest arm guy in the league. Josh Allen had only four attempts over ten yards. Now, the Ravens were bigger and flashier. They averaged seven point three yards of play. It was big Derrick Henry run, big pass by Lamar Jackson. They looked like Buffalo generally looks, but they had an ugly pick. They had a couple of fumbles, They had a drop two point conversion. Baltimore looked like Buffalo for years. Mark Andrews, great player in great tight end, picked a bad day to have the worst game of his career. Lamar Jackson all defend him. He played well enough to win. In fact, the Ravens never punted. I mean think about that, you get Lamar Jackson's gonna be MVP potentially. They never punted. They only got stopped when they stopped themselves, and that was the problem. They did and Buffalo didn't. They had thirty big plays, Bills had four. I watched that game and I thought, meet the Buffalo Bills. They are the new Kansas City Chiefs with a more dynamic offense. The Bills finally, finally, and we've been saying this all year, this is the best supporting cast. Josh has had maybe the worst defense, but they're finally comfortable being effective and by their standards, let's be truthful here, kind of boring by their standards.

Not most teams.

Not most teams.

So the Ravens kept pressing and making big plays, and it worked to a large degree. But in my lifetime and even recent memory, the San Antonios Birds with Duncan, the Bama Dynasty with Saban, the New England Patriots, this dynasty in Kansas City really started when Tyreek Hill left. The Bills have always had a Ferrari quarterback. But you know what gets old, speed tickets and vanilla remains the most popular ice cream. So congratulations to the Buffalo Bills. Mature, focused, doubted on defense, effective, one sack, one penalty in the biggest game of the year, the biggest game ever for Josh Allen.

So the Ravens kept pressing and making big plays, and it worked to a large degree. But in my lifetime and even recent memory, the San Antonios Birds with Duncan, the Bama Dynasty with Saban, the New England Patriots, this dynasty in Kansas City really started when Tyreek Hill left. The Bills have always had a Ferrari quarterback. But you know what gets old, speed tickets and vanilla remains the most popular ice cream. So congratulations to the Buffalo Bills. Mature, focused, doubted on defense, effective, one sack, one penalty in the biggest game of the year, the biggest game ever for Josh Allen.

He is back now to.

He is back now to.

Facing the vaunted Kansas City Chiefs. I said it last week in the week before, I think Buffalo wins the Super Bowl, and it's this pivot from speeding tickets to the Ferrari to just letting all the other kids fly by. You don't beat yourself. Here's Josh Allen.

Facing the vaunted Kansas City Chiefs. I said it last week in the week before, I think Buffalo wins the Super Bowl, and it's this pivot from speeding tickets to the Ferrari to just letting all the other kids fly by. You don't beat yourself. Here's Josh Allen.

After all year.

After all year.

This team has heard we got no talent or too small, we can't stop the run, We're not good enough to compete for a fifteen minutes, we.

This team has heard we got no talent or too small, we can't stop the run, We're not good enough to compete for a fifteen minutes, we.

Just put our head down and worked hard. I'm so proud of our defense.

Just put our head down and worked hard. I'm so proud of our defense.

I'm so proud of our offense.

I'm so proud of our offense.

And special teams. Complete win.

And special teams. Complete win.

Obviously on the offense on the ball, we wish we scored a little more so we didn't have to take it down to the fourth quarter like that.

Obviously on the offense on the ball, we wish we scored a little more so we didn't have to take it down to the fourth quarter like that.

But that's a really good team. Credit to them as.

But that's a really good team. Credit to them as.

Well, and it should be noted you could tell this was game plan. The opening drive for the Buffalo Bills ron run short passes, this was their game plan. Let's not beat ourselves. We don't have to be the flashiest. We've done that thing. It doesn't get us to where we want to go. I really think championship teams pivot. Remember Tyreek Hill leaves the Chiefs, less flashy, more effective, Stefan Diggs some drama leaves and they immediately figure out we're not about one wide out. We're about a collective and if we don't beat ourselves, nobody else is gonna beat us either. That's super Bowl winning football. Run it, defend it. No pes, no turnovers every team last couple of weekends. That's one in the playoffs. I said zero turnovers. Took Buffalo a while to figure it out, but man did they. Now let's go to the Eagles in the Rams. First of all, the fact that the Rams kept it close. Chip of the cap to those guys, because I really do believe they need about four to five more players to beat a team like Philadelphia. But the Eagles have two stars and They're the best players in the NFL at their position. One is in his prime, Saquon Barkley, and one's a kid, Jalen Carter. And you know, I may have my reservations about Philadelphia, but they're great players, deliver when it matters, as dysfunctional as they can seem. No turnovers, only three penalties, and I've always rooted for great players to land in great organizations. Show Hey, O Tawny needed to be a Dodger, not an angel Lebron needed to be with pat Riley, not the Cleveland Cavaliers, and Saquon Barkley deserved better than the New York Giants, who have increasingly over the last decade been highly dysfunctional. There is a short list on the greatest running backs I've ever seen. Walter Payton's the best ever, Barry Sanders way up there, but Saquon Barkley is on that short list as well. And day one of his career, even at Penn State when they had weak offensive lines and the Giants had horrible offensive lines, he has never been one to point fingers. He has been total class, understated, just does his job and when hard working people get the opportunity to work with great people, magic happens. And I've always been I tell my kids this, you don't really deserve stuff, you earn stuff. But I do feel in his case, he sort of deserved the great offensive line. And then he's got Jalen Carter slamming the door shut at Carter has a chance to be Reggie White and Aaron Donald here like unblockable and the NFL is so quarterback eccentric that it is fascinating to watch. The Eagles have sixty five net passing yards, the fewest in ten years for a winning playoff team. I mean, AJ Brown could have read two books. This is It's a Saquon Barkley team. And you know the other thing I think about is, here's a guy that was not on this team a year ago, and this is a team with Alpha's best offensive line, arguably in football, great defensive line, AJ Brown. There are stars and Alpha, even the coach, all over the locker room, and this quiet kid walks in and becomes the Alpha of the Alphas. It's somewhat ironic and beautiful that in a loud city with a loud coach and loud fans and at times a loud organization it's the quiet, classy kid who's taken over the team. He and the remarkable Jalen Carter. And we don't talk a lot about interior defensive linemen, but the Rams had a shot on a short week in the snow, after that Puka Nakua catch down the sidelines, they had a chance to win this game. I'm sitting there on my couch thinking time out. The Eagles have the better roster, they're at home, they're better suited for snowy weather. Are the Rams gonna pull it out? And Saquon did it on the offense and Jalen Carter sealed it on defense.

Well, and it should be noted you could tell this was game plan. The opening drive for the Buffalo Bills ron run short passes, this was their game plan. Let's not beat ourselves. We don't have to be the flashiest. We've done that thing. It doesn't get us to where we want to go. I really think championship teams pivot. Remember Tyreek Hill leaves the Chiefs, less flashy, more effective, Stefan Diggs some drama leaves and they immediately figure out we're not about one wide out. We're about a collective and if we don't beat ourselves, nobody else is gonna beat us either. That's super Bowl winning football. Run it, defend it. No pes, no turnovers every team last couple of weekends. That's one in the playoffs. I said zero turnovers. Took Buffalo a while to figure it out, but man did they. Now let's go to the Eagles in the Rams. First of all, the fact that the Rams kept it close. Chip of the cap to those guys, because I really do believe they need about four to five more players to beat a team like Philadelphia. But the Eagles have two stars and They're the best players in the NFL at their position. One is in his prime, Saquon Barkley, and one's a kid, Jalen Carter. And you know, I may have my reservations about Philadelphia, but they're great players, deliver when it matters, as dysfunctional as they can seem. No turnovers, only three penalties, and I've always rooted for great players to land in great organizations. Show Hey, O Tawny needed to be a Dodger, not an angel Lebron needed to be with pat Riley, not the Cleveland Cavaliers, and Saquon Barkley deserved better than the New York Giants, who have increasingly over the last decade been highly dysfunctional. There is a short list on the greatest running backs I've ever seen. Walter Payton's the best ever, Barry Sanders way up there, but Saquon Barkley is on that short list as well. And day one of his career, even at Penn State when they had weak offensive lines and the Giants had horrible offensive lines, he has never been one to point fingers. He has been total class, understated, just does his job and when hard working people get the opportunity to work with great people, magic happens. And I've always been I tell my kids this, you don't really deserve stuff, you earn stuff. But I do feel in his case, he sort of deserved the great offensive line. And then he's got Jalen Carter slamming the door shut at Carter has a chance to be Reggie White and Aaron Donald here like unblockable and the NFL is so quarterback eccentric that it is fascinating to watch. The Eagles have sixty five net passing yards, the fewest in ten years for a winning playoff team. I mean, AJ Brown could have read two books. This is It's a Saquon Barkley team. And you know the other thing I think about is, here's a guy that was not on this team a year ago, and this is a team with Alpha's best offensive line, arguably in football, great defensive line, AJ Brown. There are stars and Alpha, even the coach, all over the locker room, and this quiet kid walks in and becomes the Alpha of the Alphas. It's somewhat ironic and beautiful that in a loud city with a loud coach and loud fans and at times a loud organization it's the quiet, classy kid who's taken over the team. He and the remarkable Jalen Carter. And we don't talk a lot about interior defensive linemen, but the Rams had a shot on a short week in the snow, after that Puka Nakua catch down the sidelines, they had a chance to win this game. I'm sitting there on my couch thinking time out. The Eagles have the better roster, they're at home, they're better suited for snowy weather. Are the Rams gonna pull it out? And Saquon did it on the offense and Jalen Carter sealed it on defense.

Here's Nick Sirianni jam.

Here's Nick Sirianni jam.

Carter is a special player, and he's just done so many of the right things to continue to make himself a special player. For him to rush the passer the way that he did in our group, rush the way that we did in moments of where the footing wasn't great, that that to me, that was a championship effort by the defense.

Carter is a special player, and he's just done so many of the right things to continue to make himself a special player. For him to rush the passer the way that he did in our group, rush the way that we did in moments of where the footing wasn't great, that that to me, that was a championship effort by the defense.

He's so talented, but.

He's so talented, but.

This league, there's a lot of guys that are talented, and it takes more than talent to reach your potential. And he's continuing to rise, and that speaks a lot to Jalen Carter.

This league, there's a lot of guys that are talented, and it takes more than talent to reach your potential. And he's continuing to rise, and that speaks a lot to Jalen Carter.

This Eagles football team feels like it's led by Jalen Carter, Saquon Barkley and the general manager. But what I do like about it as well is Jalen Hurts is okay with it. Jalen Hurts is about winning. That's all he cares about. You don't get a lot of ego. So it sort of all works as dysfunctional as it often feels. It just sort of all works for Philadelphia. So had to three and oh weekend, feel good next weekend. I do think Buffalo is the better team. Now can they win at arrow ahead? After watching him this weekend, I think what you're gonna get is too Really, the two best football teams I've seen in this league are both in the AFC, and for a while this year in September October, I thought Detroit was it. They're not will address that after the break, and Philadelphia just sees teams like they let teams they're clearly better than stay in the game.

This Eagles football team feels like it's led by Jalen Carter, Saquon Barkley and the general manager. But what I do like about it as well is Jalen Hurts is okay with it. Jalen Hurts is about winning. That's all he cares about. You don't get a lot of ego. So it sort of all works as dysfunctional as it often feels. It just sort of all works for Philadelphia. So had to three and oh weekend, feel good next weekend. I do think Buffalo is the better team. Now can they win at arrow ahead? After watching him this weekend, I think what you're gonna get is too Really, the two best football teams I've seen in this league are both in the AFC, and for a while this year in September October, I thought Detroit was it. They're not will address that after the break, and Philadelphia just sees teams like they let teams they're clearly better than stay in the game.

Be honest about this.

Be honest about this.

When Stafford completes that ball down the sideline to Puku Nakua, you were sitting there thinking they a LA team on a short week without the personnel to match, Philly is going to steal this game. I sat there and thought, everything I was going to say about this game is going to be turned on its head.

When Stafford completes that ball down the sideline to Puku Nakua, you were sitting there thinking they a LA team on a short week without the personnel to match, Philly is going to steal this game. I sat there and thought, everything I was going to say about this game is going to be turned on its head.

And then Jalen Carter back to back ends up.

And then Jalen Carter back to back ends up.

Yeah, Eagles have not been great in either playoff game, Colin, they have not. They did not look particularly sharp against the Packers.

Yeah, Eagles have not been great in either playoff game, Colin, they have not. They did not look particularly sharp against the Packers.

Yes they are. Maybe you're right, I don't know.

Yes they are. Maybe you're right, I don't know.

I mean, are they going to caugh up the football five times like the Lions did and get Washington the victory.

I mean, are they going to caugh up the football five times like the Lions did and get Washington the victory.

I don't see that happening, do you.

I don't see that happening, do you.

No, I mean they should be favored over Washington. They are, But I remember I remember a New York Giants team that was good in the regular season like Washington, and they went on the road with Eli Manning and they played with house money and there wasn't a lot of pressure. Now, that Giants team had very good defensive personnel up front. It wasn't just Eli Manning. And I just don't think Washington has the personnel. If Washington got to the Super Bowl, this is not a shot at anybody, because they're gonna go buy some really good players and this is a good front office. It would be the weakest roster to ever get to a Super Bowl. I mean the fact that they're winning. It comes down to it comes down to one player. Well, let's just be honest, it comes down to one kid.

No, I mean they should be favored over Washington. They are, But I remember I remember a New York Giants team that was good in the regular season like Washington, and they went on the road with Eli Manning and they played with house money and there wasn't a lot of pressure. Now, that Giants team had very good defensive personnel up front. It wasn't just Eli Manning. And I just don't think Washington has the personnel. If Washington got to the Super Bowl, this is not a shot at anybody, because they're gonna go buy some really good players and this is a good front office. It would be the weakest roster to ever get to a Super Bowl. I mean the fact that they're winning. It comes down to it comes down to one player. Well, let's just be honest, it comes down to one kid.

He's a little more than a kid now.

He's a little more than a kid now.

But home teams, by the way, did you see that eight and two in the playoffs the two road wins to win Washington in Tampa, Washington against Detroit.

But home teams, by the way, did you see that eight and two in the playoffs the two road wins to win Washington in Tampa, Washington against Detroit.

I mean home time's dominating the teams that are winning. No turnover, no turnovers as well. Yes, that has really been remarkable. You could always get away with one like turnovers. One you're done, you lose.

I mean home time's dominating the teams that are winning. No turnover, no turnovers as well. Yes, that has really been remarkable. You could always get away with one like turnovers. One you're done, you lose.

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Well, they were great in the seventies and they were great in the eighties, but due to ownership changes over the last twenty ish plus years, Washington was a great football city with toxic ownership and they just dissolved into a puddle. And then this offseason I said I'm gonna pick them. They flushed everybody out and I loved all the new people they brought in from coach, coordinator, quarterback owner GM and I said they're going to make the playoffs. But I didn't expect this. And in the middle of the season Jaden Daniels, I loved him at Arizona State and LSU. He kind of got banged up in the middle of the season and they lost three straight games, and it looked like your typical good rookie quarterback who's coming back down to earth. We liked him a lot. In the last six games, he's won all of them. You get amazing upside, no downside. This kid has played what nineteen games this year, no fumbles, not one.

Well, they were great in the seventies and they were great in the eighties, but due to ownership changes over the last twenty ish plus years, Washington was a great football city with toxic ownership and they just dissolved into a puddle. And then this offseason I said I'm gonna pick them. They flushed everybody out and I loved all the new people they brought in from coach, coordinator, quarterback owner GM and I said they're going to make the playoffs. But I didn't expect this. And in the middle of the season Jaden Daniels, I loved him at Arizona State and LSU. He kind of got banged up in the middle of the season and they lost three straight games, and it looked like your typical good rookie quarterback who's coming back down to earth. We liked him a lot. In the last six games, he's won all of them. You get amazing upside, no downside. This kid has played what nineteen games this year, no fumbles, not one.

Even his last.

Even his last.

Season in college, he was one and three against ranked teams. They had great receivers at LSU. Was it him or the receiver? He was a bit thin physicality. Was concerned he missed the playoffs. I mean, we knew he was good. He went number two, and we knew he was good early in the season. Nobody saw this rookie quarterbacks don't become the best fourth quarter quarterback in the playoffs not named Patrick Mahome. He's gotten better on the road against better teams. This has never happened.

Season in college, he was one and three against ranked teams. They had great receivers at LSU. Was it him or the receiver? He was a bit thin physicality. Was concerned he missed the playoffs. I mean, we knew he was good. He went number two, and we knew he was good early in the season. Nobody saw this rookie quarterbacks don't become the best fourth quarter quarterback in the playoffs not named Patrick Mahome. He's gotten better on the road against better teams. This has never happened.

His poise. I don't know what to make of it. It's unprecedented.

His poise. I don't know what to make of it. It's unprecedented.

I thought Andrew Lucke was the best rookie quarterback I saw, but you got downside. He threw a lot of picks. He could be reckless. There is no reckless. It's all poise. I mean against the blitz, Detroit blitzed him. His passer rating against blitzes veteran quarterbacks don't do this is one hundred and thirty seven. And by the way, there have been rookie quarterbacks that got to a conference championship brock perty Mark Sanchez, Flacco, Big Ben. They all had number one, number two or number three. D Cayden Daniels. Defense is eighteenth. There's one other elite player on the entire team, Terry McLaurin. So I feel like I'm watching two movies at once, Miracle with the late Herb Brooks and the natural Robert Redford. I don't even know what to make of it. I mean, if you were writing a script for this thing in Hollywood, about halfway through, you'd be like, Okay, Okay, that part's not believable, keep that part out. But I like the premise of it. I mean, we all thought he was good middle of the season. He had turbulence, but the smoothness, the poise, the ability on the road against the Blitz, I've never seen anything like it. Nineteen games does not have a fumble. If that's not a steady hand, I don't know what is. And I said this, What was really striking is when he went into camp with Washington, how veteran coach Dan Quinn and Cliff Kingsbury and he's a rookie could not stop with the effusive praise and almost as a rule, here's what you say about rookie quarterbacks in camp. Let's lower expectations. He's got a long way to go. Sean Payton loves bon Nicks, but it was always about let's slow down. First NFL season, and dan Quinn Cliff Kingsbury were like, Yeah, this doesn't look like anybody else, and it doesn't stoic in crisis. I said this, this roster won four games last season and it's mostly the same roster with Jaden Daniels and here is his head coach, dan Quinn.

I thought Andrew Lucke was the best rookie quarterback I saw, but you got downside. He threw a lot of picks. He could be reckless. There is no reckless. It's all poise. I mean against the blitz, Detroit blitzed him. His passer rating against blitzes veteran quarterbacks don't do this is one hundred and thirty seven. And by the way, there have been rookie quarterbacks that got to a conference championship brock perty Mark Sanchez, Flacco, Big Ben. They all had number one, number two or number three. D Cayden Daniels. Defense is eighteenth. There's one other elite player on the entire team, Terry McLaurin. So I feel like I'm watching two movies at once, Miracle with the late Herb Brooks and the natural Robert Redford. I don't even know what to make of it. I mean, if you were writing a script for this thing in Hollywood, about halfway through, you'd be like, Okay, Okay, that part's not believable, keep that part out. But I like the premise of it. I mean, we all thought he was good middle of the season. He had turbulence, but the smoothness, the poise, the ability on the road against the Blitz, I've never seen anything like it. Nineteen games does not have a fumble. If that's not a steady hand, I don't know what is. And I said this, What was really striking is when he went into camp with Washington, how veteran coach Dan Quinn and Cliff Kingsbury and he's a rookie could not stop with the effusive praise and almost as a rule, here's what you say about rookie quarterbacks in camp. Let's lower expectations. He's got a long way to go. Sean Payton loves bon Nicks, but it was always about let's slow down. First NFL season, and dan Quinn Cliff Kingsbury were like, Yeah, this doesn't look like anybody else, and it doesn't stoic in crisis. I said this, this roster won four games last season and it's mostly the same roster with Jaden Daniels and here is his head coach, dan Quinn.

After he just.

After he just.

Has a different poise about him than most and he's a rare competitor, there's no doubt about that. But in those moments he is. If he was a basketball player, he'd want the last shot. As a ballplayer, he wants the ball in his hands to make the difference, and he makes great decisions with the football, and that takes real mindfulness.

Has a different poise about him than most and he's a rare competitor, there's no doubt about that. But in those moments he is. If he was a basketball player, he'd want the last shot. As a ballplayer, he wants the ball in his hands to make the difference, and he makes great decisions with the football, and that takes real mindfulness.

And I remember watching him at Arizona State and this sticks out to me. And he looked like he weighed one hundred and sixty five pounds. The helmet looked huge on him. And then he put on some weight and he went to LSU and he surrounded by better players. But I remember when he went from Arizona State to LSU. I had said on the air, I'm like, boy, you got a good one. And people at LSU who loved their college football are like overrated, not that good, and I'm like, no, no, he's pretty good. And then you hear Brian Kelly talking about him, and then Dan Quinn and then and again mid season they had a three game losing streak play the Steelers. Fifty percent completions just wasn't right. Okay, he'll pull back. He's a rookie. Everybody's got film on him.

And I remember watching him at Arizona State and this sticks out to me. And he looked like he weighed one hundred and sixty five pounds. The helmet looked huge on him. And then he put on some weight and he went to LSU and he surrounded by better players. But I remember when he went from Arizona State to LSU. I had said on the air, I'm like, boy, you got a good one. And people at LSU who loved their college football are like overrated, not that good, and I'm like, no, no, he's pretty good. And then you hear Brian Kelly talking about him, and then Dan Quinn and then and again mid season they had a three game losing streak play the Steelers. Fifty percent completions just wasn't right. Okay, he'll pull back. He's a rookie. Everybody's got film on him.

CJ. Stroud, No, no, no, no, he did the opposite.

CJ. Stroud, No, no, no, no, he did the opposite.

He got healthier and he got better and the idea of this roster ending up in the super Bowl is as unprecedented as his poise in the fourth quarter. Hard to explain because we've never seen it. J Mack with the News.

He got healthier and he got better and the idea of this roster ending up in the super Bowl is as unprecedented as his poise in the fourth quarter. Hard to explain because we've never seen it. J Mack with the News.

No, no, no, this is the herd Line News.

No, no, no, this is the herd Line News.

All right, let's get started with that Bill's mistake free performance against the Ravens. Really impressive stuff from Buffalo, despite not overwhelming offensively, setting up a rematch from week eleven with the Kansas City Chiefs. Everybody's excited for it. Buffalo was the first team to defeat Casey this season, but despite the win, Josh Allen knows that the Chiefs are a different team than they were two months ago.

All right, let's get started with that Bill's mistake free performance against the Ravens. Really impressive stuff from Buffalo, despite not overwhelming offensively, setting up a rematch from week eleven with the Kansas City Chiefs. Everybody's excited for it. Buffalo was the first team to defeat Casey this season, but despite the win, Josh Allen knows that the Chiefs are a different team than they were two months ago.

The regular season is what the regular season is, and it didn't matter how well you perform. You know, when you get to the playoffs, it doesn't really matter. And we lost thirty five to ten to this team, and you know, it's hard to beat the team twice. We understand that, we know that it's a team that we beat early in the season, but it's not the same team.

The regular season is what the regular season is, and it didn't matter how well you perform. You know, when you get to the playoffs, it doesn't really matter. And we lost thirty five to ten to this team, and you know, it's hard to beat the team twice. We understand that, we know that it's a team that we beat early in the season, but it's not the same team.

Yeah. I like Buffalo, the city or the team, the offense.

Yeah. I like Buffalo, the city or the team, the offense.

Both they're great. I like Buffalo. I think this is different. I think they've figured out the league. And it's really hard when you're young and talented to figure out the league. It takes a while to go. Yeah, it's not just about you know, it's like in the NBA, you know, elevate others, not just yourselves. You know, Lebron took a while to figure out running down the floor and blocking shots from behind doesn't win titles. Team defense does, you know, hitting free throws does. Like I just feel like this is and we've been saying this all year, this is the best version of Buffalo. The fact that in the biggest game they were really not reliant on Josh Allen.

Both they're great. I like Buffalo. I think this is different. I think they've figured out the league. And it's really hard when you're young and talented to figure out the league. It takes a while to go. Yeah, it's not just about you know, it's like in the NBA, you know, elevate others, not just yourselves. You know, Lebron took a while to figure out running down the floor and blocking shots from behind doesn't win titles. Team defense does, you know, hitting free throws does. Like I just feel like this is and we've been saying this all year, this is the best version of Buffalo. The fact that in the biggest game they were really not reliant on Josh Allen.

I mean, it was I want to ask you about that.

I mean, it was I want to ask you about that.

So we know that the smart coaches game plan specific We're not I don't care what we did for eighteen weeks.

So we know that the smart coaches game plan specific We're not I don't care what we did for eighteen weeks.

We're game planning for Baltimore.

We're game planning for Baltimore.

It almost felt to me like after they, you know, the two turnovers by the Ravens, Buffalo shifted their focus and they.

It almost felt to me like after they, you know, the two turnovers by the Ravens, Buffalo shifted their focus and they.

Were like, we don't need to throw the ball. We just don't want to screw this up. Well, and their throws were not down the field.

Were like, we don't need to throw the ball. We just don't want to screw this up. Well, and their throws were not down the field.

Nothing down the field, no, no, And I think once once they had that ugly interception. I think Buffalo said, you know, this team's going to beat themselves, and they have all the analytics. You go into the game knowing that any team that had a turnover lost their playoff game. You're at home, you feel you have the better quarterback. And the other thing about Buffalo I'll say is we talk about Philly in Detroit's offensive line. Buffalo's offensive line. Now we put Dion Dawkins on the show once a month during the season. He's a great left tackle. How about that holding call on him? How outrageous? That was the worst call the week. KND that a lot of bad calls there was, But I think Buffalo's online is a lot better than anybody's acknowledging. Like that first drive of the game against Baltimore, they just marched down the field and you're like, Wow, they didn't even need Josh Allen, Like that's impressive. They've added tight ends, wide receivers, even the running back to backup running back.

Nothing down the field, no, no, And I think once once they had that ugly interception. I think Buffalo said, you know, this team's going to beat themselves, and they have all the analytics. You go into the game knowing that any team that had a turnover lost their playoff game. You're at home, you feel you have the better quarterback. And the other thing about Buffalo I'll say is we talk about Philly in Detroit's offensive line. Buffalo's offensive line. Now we put Dion Dawkins on the show once a month during the season. He's a great left tackle. How about that holding call on him? How outrageous? That was the worst call the week. KND that a lot of bad calls there was, But I think Buffalo's online is a lot better than anybody's acknowledging. Like that first drive of the game against Baltimore, they just marched down the field and you're like, Wow, they didn't even need Josh Allen, Like that's impressive. They've added tight ends, wide receivers, even the running back to backup running back.

Davis the young kid, it's got an amazing Yeah.

Davis the young kid, it's got an amazing Yeah.

Oh, he kind of like an Isaiah But Checko, You're like, you didn't watch him in college and you look up and you're like, who is that guy?

Oh, he kind of like an Isaiah But Checko, You're like, you didn't watch him in college and you look up and you're like, who is that guy?

I'm looking at their target share for wide receivers Colin. They didn't throw to wide receiver other than Shakir mac Collins two targets. Amari Cooper won like they rush for a book forty seven. They're like, listen, we're not going to lose this football game. Also, let's just run the ball. It was almost as if.

I'm looking at their target share for wide receivers Colin. They didn't throw to wide receiver other than Shakir mac Collins two targets. Amari Cooper won like they rush for a book forty seven. They're like, listen, we're not going to lose this football game. Also, let's just run the ball. It was almost as if.

Tuesday or Wednesday when they did their install, they thought the weather was gonna be worse than it was. I mean, that was my take during the game, Like you know, you do the install Tuesdays and Wednesdays and you're like, listen, this thing can go sideways. And then they got into the game, they drove down and thought we can run the football on this team. And I don't know if they changed their game plan, but it did feel like they came into this game thinking this is gonna be low scoring, don't make mistakes, and they kind of just stuck with it once Baltimore started making mistakes.

Tuesday or Wednesday when they did their install, they thought the weather was gonna be worse than it was. I mean, that was my take during the game, Like you know, you do the install Tuesdays and Wednesdays and you're like, listen, this thing can go sideways. And then they got into the game, they drove down and thought we can run the football on this team. And I don't know if they changed their game plan, but it did feel like they came into this game thinking this is gonna be low scoring, don't make mistakes, and they kind of just stuck with it once Baltimore started making mistakes.

So if I told you Josh Allen would have one hundred and twenty seven yards passing and the Bills offense would have one play over twenty yards.

So if I told you Josh Allen would have one hundred and twenty seven yards passing and the Bills offense would have one play over twenty yards.

Did you think they would beat the Ravens. No, that's probably not a enough.

Did you think they would beat the Ravens. No, that's probably not a enough.

Baltimore on one drive had two Dereck Henry runs, a Justice Hill run, a Lamar passed like Baltimore in one drive in the second half had more big plays than Buffalo had all that entire.

Baltimore on one drive had two Dereck Henry runs, a Justice Hill run, a Lamar passed like Baltimore in one drive in the second half had more big plays than Buffalo had all that entire.

Two quick questions about the Ravens before we put them to bed for the offset. Were you surprised Derrick Henry was not involved in either two.

Two quick questions about the Ravens before we put them to bed for the offset. Were you surprised Derrick Henry was not involved in either two.

Point play in the second half?

Point play in the second half?

Was?

Was?

I was? Mark Andrews had an ugly draw.

I was? Mark Andrews had an ugly draw.

But I will tell you this, even with Philadelphia, a couple of times, I'm screaming at the TV guys, you have sake one. Barkley turned around and handed off. I also think you prepare all week. Your offensive coordinator has all these cute goal line plays and they want to use them. I mean we saw Ben Johnson try to flex. I think these offensive coordinators are out there, they build these plays, They build these clever plays. I mean Mark Andrews was wide open.

But I will tell you this, even with Philadelphia, a couple of times, I'm screaming at the TV guys, you have sake one. Barkley turned around and handed off. I also think you prepare all week. Your offensive coordinator has all these cute goal line plays and they want to use them. I mean we saw Ben Johnson try to flex. I think these offensive coordinators are out there, they build these plays, They build these clever plays. I mean Mark Andrews was wide open.

Yeah, you feel bad for Andrews.

Yeah, you feel bad for Andrews.

And then lastly on Lamar Jackson real quick. I don't think anybody with a brain would put this loss on him. That being said, he had a pretty ugly interception in the first half. The fumble basically handed Buffalo a touchdown. So now he kind of dug them a hole. He did dig out of it with that final drive. I can't crush Lamar for this perform. I didn't think he was awful.

And then lastly on Lamar Jackson real quick. I don't think anybody with a brain would put this loss on him. That being said, he had a pretty ugly interception in the first half. The fumble basically handed Buffalo a touchdown. So now he kind of dug them a hole. He did dig out of it with that final drive. I can't crush Lamar for this perform. I didn't think he was awful.

No, his passer rating was higher than Josh Allen's. He dug themselves out of a hole. He had one terrible pick that was bad. If you go look at the fumble, it was a bad snap and he tried to be Superman to make a play out of it and too. You know, you can say that's a fault, but that's his whole life's that's basically his makeup is being Superman.

No, his passer rating was higher than Josh Allen's. He dug themselves out of a hole. He had one terrible pick that was bad. If you go look at the fumble, it was a bad snap and he tried to be Superman to make a play out of it and too. You know, you can say that's a fault, but that's his whole life's that's basically his makeup is being Superman.

We say the counter is Josh Allen. Did you see when they ended up kicking the field goal at the very end to go up eight?

We say the counter is Josh Allen. Did you see when they ended up kicking the field goal at the very end to go up eight?

Oh, he almost down. He wanted to pitch.

Oh, he almost down. He wanted to pitch.

He was like stood up and he looked to pitch, and he thought better of it and just tucked it in. That's smart Josh Allen. Okay, that would have been a turnover and game changing stuff. I thought Allan was just a little better than Lamar yesterday. Next step, Colin, let's go to the Lions who are coming off that lost Saturday night. Oh my goodness, Detroit's now racing for the exodus of Ben Jonson. A lot of people have him going to the Raiders and then Aaron Glenn. I'll tell you about him shortly. Dan Campbell's expecting to lose both coordinators here, he is.

He was like stood up and he looked to pitch, and he thought better of it and just tucked it in. That's smart Josh Allen. Okay, that would have been a turnover and game changing stuff. I thought Allan was just a little better than Lamar yesterday. Next step, Colin, let's go to the Lions who are coming off that lost Saturday night. Oh my goodness, Detroit's now racing for the exodus of Ben Jonson. A lot of people have him going to the Raiders and then Aaron Glenn. I'll tell you about him shortly. Dan Campbell's expecting to lose both coordinators here, he is.

I think we've got guys on staff that I think are more than qualified and would be outstanding in those roles. But that does not mean that I'm not looking outside either. I'm not going to be in a hurry. You know, I'm not gonna mad dash no matter what happens. I want to do what's ripe by our team and what I believe is going to You know, those guys will be able to stand in front of that room and command respect and get everybody going in the same direction, and we'll ultimately deliver the same message that I'm delivery.

I think we've got guys on staff that I think are more than qualified and would be outstanding in those roles. But that does not mean that I'm not looking outside either. I'm not going to be in a hurry. You know, I'm not gonna mad dash no matter what happens. I want to do what's ripe by our team and what I believe is going to You know, those guys will be able to stand in front of that room and command respect and get everybody going in the same direction, and we'll ultimately deliver the same message that I'm delivery.

Well, windows close quickly.

Well, windows close quickly.

In the NFL, Remember the Seahawks got to two Super Bowls and we thought, man, this thing's go last a while. A lot of their best players were young. They never got back to a conference championship. So I'll just say this about Detroit. If they lose both their best coordinators, that happened to Philly, yep, and Philly replaced him with guys in the building. And Detroit it sounds like is going to replace their great coordinators with guys in the building.

In the NFL, Remember the Seahawks got to two Super Bowls and we thought, man, this thing's go last a while. A lot of their best players were young. They never got back to a conference championship. So I'll just say this about Detroit. If they lose both their best coordinators, that happened to Philly, yep, and Philly replaced him with guys in the building. And Detroit it sounds like is going to replace their great coordinators with guys in the building.

What happened to Philly.

What happened to Philly.

Very rarely is guy in the building the best person for the job. There's a reason he wasn't the coordinator. He wasn't ready for it. So you're I'm always suspicious. I've seen this my whole life. Is that a coach in college football, a legend leaves and they give it to the friendly coordinator that everybody in the building likes. Well, why was the coordinator the coordinator for how many years? Be very careful about just saying, hey, everybody in the building likes him. Remember all the Raider players loved Antonio Pierce. Everybody loves the interim coach, everybody loves the position coach. I'm just saying, this league has a way of ending dynasties quickly.

Very rarely is guy in the building the best person for the job. There's a reason he wasn't the coordinator. He wasn't ready for it. So you're I'm always suspicious. I've seen this my whole life. Is that a coach in college football, a legend leaves and they give it to the friendly coordinator that everybody in the building likes. Well, why was the coordinator the coordinator for how many years? Be very careful about just saying, hey, everybody in the building likes him. Remember all the Raider players loved Antonio Pierce. Everybody loves the interim coach, everybody loves the position coach. I'm just saying, this league has a way of ending dynasties quickly.

You have to.

You have to.

I mean, look at New England went from kind of game manager to Randy Moss back to Brady.

I mean, look at New England went from kind of game manager to Randy Moss back to Brady.

Now.

Now.

I mean there were several chapters with Brady. The Chiefs have gone from fireworks show to committee wide receivers, and I saw Buffalo pivot this weekend. Be careful about hiring guys in the building because everybody likes him.

I mean there were several chapters with Brady. The Chiefs have gone from fireworks show to committee wide receivers, and I saw Buffalo pivot this weekend. Be careful about hiring guys in the building because everybody likes him.

Yeah, forty nine Ers, by the way, have lost a lot of staffers the last like five years.

Yeah, forty nine Ers, by the way, have lost a lot of staffers the last like five years.

McDaniel saw all these guys. It's tough to replace and keep the continuity.

McDaniel saw all these guys. It's tough to replace and keep the continuity.

McVeigh has lost multiple people, and he's constantly cherry picking.

McVeigh has lost multiple people, and he's constantly cherry picking.

And let me ask you about we think Ben Johnson's going to the Raiders, right, He's going to get to pick his well, he gets to pick his GM essentially, is what it sounds like. The Bears are not going to let him do that. We'll see it's not a lock. I just need to ask about Aaron Glenn. They just sent me that he's doing a second in person interview with my Jets.

And let me ask you about we think Ben Johnson's going to the Raiders, right, He's going to get to pick his well, he gets to pick his GM essentially, is what it sounds like. The Bears are not going to let him do that. We'll see it's not a lock. I just need to ask about Aaron Glenn. They just sent me that he's doing a second in person interview with my Jets.

Aaron Glenn, whose defense could not stop a.

Aaron Glenn, whose defense could not stop a.

Nosebleed against a rookie at home on Saturday night. I'm just going to read off the last couple Jets head coaches. You tell me what is similar to Aaron Glenn here, Robert Salah, Adam Gaze, Todd Bowles, Rex Ryan, Eric Mangini. What are all those guys except for gays? Well, the coordinators, all the defensive guys. Defensive guy, what are we doing another defensive guy as head coach for the Jets.

Nosebleed against a rookie at home on Saturday night. I'm just going to read off the last couple Jets head coaches. You tell me what is similar to Aaron Glenn here, Robert Salah, Adam Gaze, Todd Bowles, Rex Ryan, Eric Mangini. What are all those guys except for gays? Well, the coordinators, all the defensive guys. Defensive guy, what are we doing another defensive guy as head coach for the Jets.

They haven't figured out offense in I.

They haven't figured out offense in I.

Don't know, fifteen years. I need a new team column.

Don't know, fifteen years. I need a new team column.

I can't.

I can't.

I mean, like I like Aaron Glenn. I'm sure he's a great guy.

I mean, like I like Aaron Glenn. I'm sure he's a great guy.

You know, I can't we find an offensive guy to be that coach.

You know, I can't we find an offensive guy to be that coach.

Didn't you grow up near Washington. There's your team neon Light like me, like me.

Didn't you grow up near Washington. There's your team neon Light like me, like me.

I'm gonna I might have to turn to Jaydon Daniels.

I'm gonna I might have to turn to Jaydon Daniels.

That's not a hard turn, that's not tough.

That's not a hard turn, that's not tough.

He's fun to watch.

He's fun to watch.

But I'm on the egos this week, so don't tell anything. Final story Colin Bears. They are looking for a head coach. Remember they moved off Eberflus after that Thanksgiving debacle, and they still don't have a head coach. Reports indicate that Chicago called the Steelers about your guy, Mike Tomlin. Pittsburgh said click, we're not talking to you and said, no, thank you.

But I'm on the egos this week, so don't tell anything. Final story Colin Bears. They are looking for a head coach. Remember they moved off Eberflus after that Thanksgiving debacle, and they still don't have a head coach. Reports indicate that Chicago called the Steelers about your guy, Mike Tomlin. Pittsburgh said click, we're not talking to you and said, no, thank you.

I don't know.

I don't know.

I saw.

I saw.

They interviewed Eddie George over the weekend. Who's coaching at Tennessee State.

They interviewed Eddie George over the weekend. Who's coaching at Tennessee State.

Any George could be a good coach, because this is a big job for a guy from a small game.

Any George could be a good coach, because this is a big job for a guy from a small game.

They've had eight weeks and they're interviewing like their seventeenth person for head coach.

They've had eight weeks and they're interviewing like their seventeenth person for head coach.

It's crazy. It's I said this.

It's crazy. It's I said this.

Didn't we say this about three weeks ago or two weeks ago?

Didn't we say this about three weeks ago or two weeks ago?

We're like, what are we doing here?

We're like, what are we doing here?

Like, let's now, So if Ben Johnson doesn't get his pick his own GM and goes to the Raiders, think about that, Chicago, the Raiders, with the most impulsive owner in the league, are going to grab the top coordinator available in the draft, not your Bears. The Bears continue to get in their own way.

Like, let's now, So if Ben Johnson doesn't get his pick his own GM and goes to the Raiders, think about that, Chicago, the Raiders, with the most impulsive owner in the league, are going to grab the top coordinator available in the draft, not your Bears. The Bears continue to get in their own way.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Hey, if I'm the Jets, we don't have a GM, Ben, who do you? Who do you want? We'll go bring him. We'll bring your GM in you want? You want Ben Johnson in New York?

Hey, if I'm the Jets, we don't have a GM, Ben, who do you? Who do you want? We'll go bring him. We'll bring your GM in you want? You want Ben Johnson in New York?

Yeah, and then he'll run off Aaron Rodgers and he'll figure it out with some other point.

Yeah, and then he'll run off Aaron Rodgers and he'll figure it out with some other point.

I got to I will say this, and this is not a shot at Aaron, but when you go to the Jets, you have to inherit Aaron Rodgers.

I got to I will say this, and this is not a shot at Aaron, but when you go to the Jets, you have to inherit Aaron Rodgers.

Well, I don't not necessarily, there's a market for Rodgers out there.

Well, I don't not necessarily, there's a market for Rodgers out there.

Somebody's gonna want to take him, did you?

Somebody's gonna want to take him, did you?

I sent Colin a clip of a headline from US Weekly about ayahuasca and and wildfires, like he just says something.

I sent Colin a clip of a headline from US Weekly about ayahuasca and and wildfires, like he just says something.

You know, I'm done with him.

You know, I'm done with him.

I know he's your guy. Here, he's sure he's my guy. Jmack with the news.

I know he's your guy. Here, he's sure he's my guy. Jmack with the news.

Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the Herd Line News.

Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the Herd Line News.

So I will address yeah, Houston fans. By the way, the Texans had the worst special team performance of any team I can remember in the playoffs, and they want to blame the refs. So we'll talk about that and Maholmes and his manipulation of the Zebras when we return. Colin Wright, Colin Wrong, Matt Hasselback top of hour two on a Monday Live in Los Angeles, It's the Hurt.

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So the Kansas City Chiefs again are in the AFC Championship, and you know, listen, this is the way it is. You know, with the Patriots, it was spygate, it's the flate Gate. Let's not mention that Brady was actually better statistically post to flate Gate. But nobody likes, you know, somebody at the mountaintop forever, and so now it's always it's the refs. It should be noted Houston was abysmal on special teams. And I said this to a friend who hates the Chiefs, I said, if i'd have said before the game, yeah, Houston had the worst special teams performance ever against Andy reidoff of by does it sound like you'd win.

So the Kansas City Chiefs again are in the AFC Championship, and you know, listen, this is the way it is. You know, with the Patriots, it was spygate, it's the flate Gate. Let's not mention that Brady was actually better statistically post to flate Gate. But nobody likes, you know, somebody at the mountaintop forever, and so now it's always it's the refs. It should be noted Houston was abysmal on special teams. And I said this to a friend who hates the Chiefs, I said, if i'd have said before the game, yeah, Houston had the worst special teams performance ever against Andy reidoff of by does it sound like you'd win.

No.

No.

Now, the NFL is very protect of quarterbacks, very protective, and most fans think they are overly protective of Patrick Mahomes. But here's the thing is, he's the number one asset in the league. Players should not be a fake. She haated differently. But neither of those hits were challengeable, and the NFL owners voted against challenging the quarterback hit. They tried it with pass interference. It was an absolute disaster. So it's not going to be challengeable. And Mahomes does a remarkable job to sell it like d Wade and James Harden did in the NBA. They sold it until the NBA had to change the rules. So what Patrick Mahomes does is what great players do. It could be Messy Ronaldo, Dwayne Wade, Mahomes. They leverage and manipulate officials. And remember it's always about knowing the rules. If you go back and look at Rule twelve, Section two, Article eleven, roughing the passer, this is what officials are told.

Now, the NFL is very protect of quarterbacks, very protective, and most fans think they are overly protective of Patrick Mahomes. But here's the thing is, he's the number one asset in the league. Players should not be a fake. She haated differently. But neither of those hits were challengeable, and the NFL owners voted against challenging the quarterback hit. They tried it with pass interference. It was an absolute disaster. So it's not going to be challengeable. And Mahomes does a remarkable job to sell it like d Wade and James Harden did in the NBA. They sold it until the NBA had to change the rules. So what Patrick Mahomes does is what great players do. It could be Messy Ronaldo, Dwayne Wade, Mahomes. They leverage and manipulate officials. And remember it's always about knowing the rules. If you go back and look at Rule twelve, Section two, Article eleven, roughing the passer, this is what officials are told.

And remember it's not challengeable.

And remember it's not challengeable.

When in doubt about a roughness call or a patent potentially dangerous tactic against the quarterbacks, and it's highlighted, the referee should always call roughing the passer. That's what it says, went in doubt, call roughing because it's not challengeable. You know they say in baseball, tie goes to the runner. In the NFL, ty goes to the quarterback. If you're not sure, call it now. That doesn't mean they they won't miss stuff. Jared Goff got clabbered. They didn't watch it. They didn't watch it. But with Mahomes in the pocket, this is not like Jared Goff is running down an interception or Jared Goff is running away from the place.

When in doubt about a roughness call or a patent potentially dangerous tactic against the quarterbacks, and it's highlighted, the referee should always call roughing the passer. That's what it says, went in doubt, call roughing because it's not challengeable. You know they say in baseball, tie goes to the runner. In the NFL, ty goes to the quarterback. If you're not sure, call it now. That doesn't mean they they won't miss stuff. Jared Goff got clabbered. They didn't watch it. They didn't watch it. But with Mahomes in the pocket, this is not like Jared Goff is running down an interception or Jared Goff is running away from the place.

That's different.

That's different.

This is Mahomes in the pocket and when in doubt the rule stipulates call it and it's not challengeable, and it's not going to be challengeable, so they know the rules they manipulate. I don't like the sideline thing Troyon called him out for that. Don't love it, but it's just remember every team that has had a turnover in the playoffs so far has lost. Add to that, Houston special teams were so egregiously bad. They were pretty good the week before they were terrible. So you can say it's about officials, but Kansas City starts getting leads on teams. They don't make mistakes, not a lot of penalties like Buffalo. They're a very mature team that is great situationally. But that didn't stop the meet go Ryans after from a not so subtle jab at the officials.

This is Mahomes in the pocket and when in doubt the rule stipulates call it and it's not challengeable, and it's not going to be challengeable, so they know the rules they manipulate. I don't like the sideline thing Troyon called him out for that. Don't love it, but it's just remember every team that has had a turnover in the playoffs so far has lost. Add to that, Houston special teams were so egregiously bad. They were pretty good the week before they were terrible. So you can say it's about officials, but Kansas City starts getting leads on teams. They don't make mistakes, not a lot of penalties like Buffalo. They're a very mature team that is great situationally. But that didn't stop the meet go Ryans after from a not so subtle jab at the officials.

We knew going into this game, man, it was us versus everybody.

We knew going into this game, man, it was us versus everybody.

Right.

Right.

When I say everybody is everybody, all the whatever, everybody, then they sayer is a doubt right.

When I say everybody is everybody, all the whatever, everybody, then they sayer is a doubt right.

Everybody, And again I am reading the rule.

Everybody, And again I am reading the rule.

I printed it this morning, went in doubt about roughness calls or potentially dangerous tactics against the quarterback, and it is highlighted. They highlighted the refereetion always call roughing the passer. It's right there, black and white in the rule book. Went in doubt call it. They did twice. So I want to get back to Detroit, which got housed at home. So you know I talked about this. They're going to lose both coordinators. Presumably Ben Johnson's going to take the Raiders job. Wouldn't be the one I would take. Aaron Glenn May get the Jets job, and instead of going out for a global search, they're just going to hire in house.

I printed it this morning, went in doubt about roughness calls or potentially dangerous tactics against the quarterback, and it is highlighted. They highlighted the refereetion always call roughing the passer. It's right there, black and white in the rule book. Went in doubt call it. They did twice. So I want to get back to Detroit, which got housed at home. So you know I talked about this. They're going to lose both coordinators. Presumably Ben Johnson's going to take the Raiders job. Wouldn't be the one I would take. Aaron Glenn May get the Jets job, and instead of going out for a global search, they're just going to hire in house.

Philly did it. It was a disaster.

Philly did it. It was a disaster.

So the other thing to think about, though, is did this game hurt Goff's confidence and did it make people in the organization doubt Jared Goff. Remember when Jared Goff could not beat the forty nine ers and I started talking about this on the air, I said, I think McVeigh his body language has changed on Jared Goff. He's getting very frustrated when they take shots of him about Jared Goff. And about six months later they moved off in for Matt Stafford. So this Detroit team is gonna remain very good. It is impossible to be a bad football team if you're competent quarterback with an unbelievably good offensive line and two great running backs. They're gonna control the clock, They're gonna score points. Detroit's gonna be very good, but super Bowl good. So there's a been the last couple of years in the NFC, Detroit has had a window. The Rams are good but not quite there yet. Green Bay is good but not quite there yet. Minnesota gonna use Darnold, don't have the guy they want yet, and Chicago defensive coach, maybe they upgrade there. That's just in division the NFC. San Francisco sort of getting old. They're ready for a reboot. You've had a couple of year window, and now all of a sudden, the Rams are like three players away. Here come the Packers. Oh, Jaden Daniels, Philadelphia is going nowhere. My entire life, the standard has been raised in Detroit to very good. That now is the expectation, and it should be but my whole life. If you just said to a Lions fan, they'll be very good, that was good enough, it's not anymore best Online, best running Back, room b plus a minus quarterback star receiver Hutchison's coming back. And the other thing is, I'm just watching this weekend Stafford pocket quarterback, Golf, pocket quarterback, the mobile guys, Jaden Daniels, Jalen Hurtz, Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes, now Lamarzov. Somebody had to lose that game. But you start looking at what is happening in the league and these mobile quarterbacks. I'm just telling you, for Detroit, you're losing both coordinators. I think the NFC North is only going to get better. I think there are questions about Jared Goff. I just sat and watched that game, and I thought, I remember the Seahawks a couple of Super Bowls and then it shut And the standard now is much higher than it's been. Dan Campbell talked about this, the loss and going forward on the coordinators.

So the other thing to think about, though, is did this game hurt Goff's confidence and did it make people in the organization doubt Jared Goff. Remember when Jared Goff could not beat the forty nine ers and I started talking about this on the air, I said, I think McVeigh his body language has changed on Jared Goff. He's getting very frustrated when they take shots of him about Jared Goff. And about six months later they moved off in for Matt Stafford. So this Detroit team is gonna remain very good. It is impossible to be a bad football team if you're competent quarterback with an unbelievably good offensive line and two great running backs. They're gonna control the clock, They're gonna score points. Detroit's gonna be very good, but super Bowl good. So there's a been the last couple of years in the NFC, Detroit has had a window. The Rams are good but not quite there yet. Green Bay is good but not quite there yet. Minnesota gonna use Darnold, don't have the guy they want yet, and Chicago defensive coach, maybe they upgrade there. That's just in division the NFC. San Francisco sort of getting old. They're ready for a reboot. You've had a couple of year window, and now all of a sudden, the Rams are like three players away. Here come the Packers. Oh, Jaden Daniels, Philadelphia is going nowhere. My entire life, the standard has been raised in Detroit to very good. That now is the expectation, and it should be but my whole life. If you just said to a Lions fan, they'll be very good, that was good enough, it's not anymore best Online, best running Back, room b plus a minus quarterback star receiver Hutchison's coming back. And the other thing is, I'm just watching this weekend Stafford pocket quarterback, Golf, pocket quarterback, the mobile guys, Jaden Daniels, Jalen Hurtz, Josh Allen, Patrick Mahomes, now Lamarzov. Somebody had to lose that game. But you start looking at what is happening in the league and these mobile quarterbacks. I'm just telling you, for Detroit, you're losing both coordinators. I think the NFC North is only going to get better. I think there are questions about Jared Goff. I just sat and watched that game, and I thought, I remember the Seahawks a couple of Super Bowls and then it shut And the standard now is much higher than it's been. Dan Campbell talked about this, the loss and going forward on the coordinators.

It's hard, you know, when you lose, and you lose these games, man, it's like the players, you.

It's hard, you know, when you lose, and you lose these games, man, it's like the players, you.

Know what they put into it. Well, people don't know. You know what they go to me. You have to get up bodies, beat you know, mentally, stay locked in and do those things so long season.

Know what they put into it. Well, people don't know. You know what they go to me. You have to get up bodies, beat you know, mentally, stay locked in and do those things so long season.

You know, it's interesting.

You know, it's interesting.

September, October, early November, Detroit was the best team in the league and then slowly all the defensive injuries that did it look the same. Ohio State appeared to bought them out. In college football, they played tonight and they resurrected themselves in the playoffs. So you know, we always call it overreaction Monday where people freak out, But the reality is the NFL keeps extending the season. We're at seventeen games and they're going to extend it in the next couple of years to eighteen. Is that a lot of it's just going to be attrition. Kansas City a few years ago got to a Super Bowl, lost both offensive tackles and got clobbered. Some of this stuff is are you healthy by the end of the year. And in college football again now with a playoff at twelve, I saw a story yesterday where they're going to tweak it. They may go to fourteen. You can have these really bad games and rebounds. So you're seeing in college and pro now just do not define teams not only on a game, but don't do it on a month. So I kind of look at I kind of look at Detroit and I'm like, I know they'll be fine, But I can remember McVeigh.

September, October, early November, Detroit was the best team in the league and then slowly all the defensive injuries that did it look the same. Ohio State appeared to bought them out. In college football, they played tonight and they resurrected themselves in the playoffs. So you know, we always call it overreaction Monday where people freak out, But the reality is the NFL keeps extending the season. We're at seventeen games and they're going to extend it in the next couple of years to eighteen. Is that a lot of it's just going to be attrition. Kansas City a few years ago got to a Super Bowl, lost both offensive tackles and got clobbered. Some of this stuff is are you healthy by the end of the year. And in college football again now with a playoff at twelve, I saw a story yesterday where they're going to tweak it. They may go to fourteen. You can have these really bad games and rebounds. So you're seeing in college and pro now just do not define teams not only on a game, but don't do it on a month. So I kind of look at I kind of look at Detroit and I'm like, I know they'll be fine, But I can remember McVeigh.

Moving off golf.

Moving off golf.

He just thought in big games against other great quarterbacks, he felt like he had the second best quarterback. And I'm watching golf against Jaden Daniels, the rookie, and I felt like, oh, Detroit's got the second best quarterback. Well, when you start looking at the playoffs, who's left Josh Allen, Lamar Mahomes, you know, Jaden Daniels. You end up in these massive games against these ascending star quarterbacks. So next weekend, Commanders Eagles is one Eastern on Fox Bill's Chiefs six thirty Eastern NFL Conference Championship schedule on Sunday. I like Philadelphia and I like Buffalo. I think it's interesting Buffalo was an underdog at home. Buffalo now an underdog at Arrowhead, and the Arrowhead is a great stadium. But I've watched Cincinnati and Buffalo. I've watched the Chargers go into that stadium. Denver go into that stadium and compete. So it's the home field advantage to me.