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Oh, here we go. It is a Wednesday. We are livebin Los Angeles. Sits The Herd. Wherever you may be and however you may be listening. Thanks for making us part of your day. Jamak, we are packed today. Josh McDaniels former you know legend in New England. Albert breerstoffs by today some breaking stuff. Mark Sanchez stops by as well. And uh, you know, for years and years I had talked about wide receivers. Chris Carter used to give me crap for this being overrated. I said, a football team's a cake. They're the icing there. It makes it better, but it's not essential to the cake.

Oh, here we go. It is a Wednesday. We are livebin Los Angeles. Sits The Herd. Wherever you may be and however you may be listening. Thanks for making us part of your day. Jamak, we are packed today. Josh McDaniels former you know legend in New England. Albert breerstoffs by today some breaking stuff. Mark Sanchez stops by as well. And uh, you know, for years and years I had talked about wide receivers. Chris Carter used to give me crap for this being overrated. I said, a football team's a cake. They're the icing there. It makes it better, but it's not essential to the cake.

And then.

And then.

Clearly because the rule changes, receivers became more valuable. But about six months ago you suggested that we could have You've heard of housing bubbles. You said, wide receiver Bubble, and I think you were onto something you think maybe huh, I think you were, so I want to start with that. Today forty nine ers brought Purty. The quarterback says, oh, I love Deebo Samuel the wide receiver. Here we go again, another high maintenance wide receiver that the quarterback has to make sure he's happy, Like aj Brown and Philly and Debo and elite neighbors earlier in the year with the Giants and DeVante Adams with Crypton's cryptic messages when he was a Raider, and I like Davante, but Ceedee Lamb is perpetually unhappy. And George Pickens and Deontay Johnson, even Jamar Chase, who I love, made noise this year. Oh, by the way, the top five rushing teams rushing teams in the NFL Philly, Baltimore, Washington, Detroit and the Packers are forty eight seventeen. Hey, receivers, we gave you a couple of years to be stars and you wasted it. Complaining the world changes quickly. Nine months ago, all we heard is the media lament the future of running backs. Nobody wants to pay a running back running back saying nobody loves us today. Power running football is back Detroit, Baltimore, Green Bay. Wide receivers have become once again flashy sports cars, really expensive, high maintenance. You buy one and you find out they're not great in winter months and they're not something you could drive every day. Meanwhile, there are running backs all weather, power, economical, low maintenance grinders add toughness and leadership to locker rooms. Yes, occasionally you will get a running back that's got some flash, Kyron Williams of the Rams, Christian McCaffrey, Saquon Barkley. But six of the top ten wide receivers in the NFL, six of ten leading in wide receiver yards are on teams with losing records, loud and losing. And once again, whether it's Philly, or it's San Francisco or it's Dallas, it's this constant need look at me. Let's make sure the wide receiver is healthy. I don't get that with Saquon. I don't get it with Derrick Henry. I don't get it with James Connor and Arizona. I don't get it with Walker and Seattle. They're grinders. Head down, you give me the ball, I'll produce all block. I'll take on a run. I'll take on a Mike linebacker coming a million miles an hour to protect my quarterback. And I like Deebo Samuel, but in six NFL seasons he's only had two years of a thousand plus yards. Derrick Henry seven straight seasons of one thousand plus yards. And whereas running backs when they're good, make a quarterback's job easier, wide receivers, when they're good, often need to be constantly soothed and pampered and taken care of. I mean, the AJ Brown situation is ridiculous. Your team's on a heater. Saquon Barkley should be arguably MVP. And you want more targets, you're getting seven. Okay, we'll give you nine. And I like a lot of the receivers, but I always felt in this league that they were the icing to the cake. Saquon Barkley's the cake, Christian McCaffrey's the cake, Dereck Henry's the cake. And that doesn't mean I don't like wide receivers, but how many times do we see this winning teams having to make sure the wide receiver's healthy. What's interesting about debo. My favorite debo is after the catch and when he plays running back. So when the receiver de Bo becomes the running back de Bo, I like it more so. I think it's just a very interesting The world changes quickly. And if you look at the teams now with power run games, always a quarterback's best friend. It's Baltimore, it's Philly, it's Detroit, it's Washington, it's Green Bay. Running backs are back, all weather, economical, tough, quarterback's best friend. All right, So nobody wants any sportscaster to sit on the fence, right, Well, what's the point? You got to pick a side on stuff? Right? And I'm just going to tell you when the story keeps coming out today that Belichick and Carol are close to joining forces to be the coach of the tar Heels, my takeaway in my opinion is it's eventually going to be a disaster. Let's start with this. He's seventy two, yeah, and his personality is formed. He's got no charisma. He's trying on the other network, but he doesn't have any charisma. And college football Dan Lanning big energy, good looking, confident, young sark salesman, Saban charming, Kirby smart, likewise, Marcus Freeman good looking, cool, Jim Harbaugh totally authentic, full of energy. Pete Carroll at USC, I mean he hit you like a strong drink man. He was coming at you one hundred miles an hour, chewing that gum. Good looking guy. I'm going to change your life. The players choose you in college football in today's nil Bill's patriot way. Hey take a little less for the team. Yeah, that's not happening. That's not happening. So that's the number one reason Belichick, in my opinion, seemed a little out of touch dealing with twenty seven to twenty eight, twenty nine year olds his last three years in pro football. Now he's dealing with seventeen and eighteen year olds. So that's the first part. The second part is, and this is true in a lot of universities, but it's really true at Carolina. The administration at Carolina right now is a little bit of a mess. Academics one side, sports and the other. This is a proud university that's rival is the academic power Duke, So they don't want to take a second fiddle to anybody. So North Carolina is serious about academics, and there's a lot of pushback upstairs in the academic world to the sports world and the football program. And by the way, what's interesting is the top college football agent is Jimmy Sexton. He is a power broker. Why is it he's sending his candidates to Carolina? Why are like second tier candidates backing out? Agents will tell you the truth where they send their people. If they start, If top agents in any industry start sending their people to certain locations it or not sending people to certain locations, it tells you everything. Why isn't Jimmy Sexton send it all of his great clients to Carolina because it is a top twenty twenty five job. So and the third thing is I think it's all about Bill Belichick wanting to give this job to his son in like a year. I think he's going to get worn out a year in and say I want to give it to my son, which, by the way, I get it. I'm a dad, totally get it. But whereas Dion Sanders went to Colorado and he was about attitude us noticing a program that was irrelevant, swag confidence, and I truly do believe that Dion Sanders really does care about elevating young men. To me, Belichick cares about elevating one young man, his son. And I get it, I really do. But that's not why you take a job, right Like I think Dion to Colorado works because I think he's a When it comes to Dion and what he really wants to do, he got the bag. He's the greatest cornerback of all time. He wanted to change some lives, including his son, not just his son, and so I don't buy it. I'm not sitting on the fence. Michael Irvin, who was so good yesterday on our show, The Playmaker, Former Cowboy, his thoughts on Belichick and Carolina.

Clearly because the rule changes, receivers became more valuable. But about six months ago you suggested that we could have You've heard of housing bubbles. You said, wide receiver Bubble, and I think you were onto something you think maybe huh, I think you were, so I want to start with that. Today forty nine ers brought Purty. The quarterback says, oh, I love Deebo Samuel the wide receiver. Here we go again, another high maintenance wide receiver that the quarterback has to make sure he's happy, Like aj Brown and Philly and Debo and elite neighbors earlier in the year with the Giants and DeVante Adams with Crypton's cryptic messages when he was a Raider, and I like Davante, but Ceedee Lamb is perpetually unhappy. And George Pickens and Deontay Johnson, even Jamar Chase, who I love, made noise this year. Oh, by the way, the top five rushing teams rushing teams in the NFL Philly, Baltimore, Washington, Detroit and the Packers are forty eight seventeen. Hey, receivers, we gave you a couple of years to be stars and you wasted it. Complaining the world changes quickly. Nine months ago, all we heard is the media lament the future of running backs. Nobody wants to pay a running back running back saying nobody loves us today. Power running football is back Detroit, Baltimore, Green Bay. Wide receivers have become once again flashy sports cars, really expensive, high maintenance. You buy one and you find out they're not great in winter months and they're not something you could drive every day. Meanwhile, there are running backs all weather, power, economical, low maintenance grinders add toughness and leadership to locker rooms. Yes, occasionally you will get a running back that's got some flash, Kyron Williams of the Rams, Christian McCaffrey, Saquon Barkley. But six of the top ten wide receivers in the NFL, six of ten leading in wide receiver yards are on teams with losing records, loud and losing. And once again, whether it's Philly, or it's San Francisco or it's Dallas, it's this constant need look at me. Let's make sure the wide receiver is healthy. I don't get that with Saquon. I don't get it with Derrick Henry. I don't get it with James Connor and Arizona. I don't get it with Walker and Seattle. They're grinders. Head down, you give me the ball, I'll produce all block. I'll take on a run. I'll take on a Mike linebacker coming a million miles an hour to protect my quarterback. And I like Deebo Samuel, but in six NFL seasons he's only had two years of a thousand plus yards. Derrick Henry seven straight seasons of one thousand plus yards. And whereas running backs when they're good, make a quarterback's job easier, wide receivers, when they're good, often need to be constantly soothed and pampered and taken care of. I mean, the AJ Brown situation is ridiculous. Your team's on a heater. Saquon Barkley should be arguably MVP. And you want more targets, you're getting seven. Okay, we'll give you nine. And I like a lot of the receivers, but I always felt in this league that they were the icing to the cake. Saquon Barkley's the cake, Christian McCaffrey's the cake, Dereck Henry's the cake. And that doesn't mean I don't like wide receivers, but how many times do we see this winning teams having to make sure the wide receiver's healthy. What's interesting about debo. My favorite debo is after the catch and when he plays running back. So when the receiver de Bo becomes the running back de Bo, I like it more so. I think it's just a very interesting The world changes quickly. And if you look at the teams now with power run games, always a quarterback's best friend. It's Baltimore, it's Philly, it's Detroit, it's Washington, it's Green Bay. Running backs are back, all weather, economical, tough, quarterback's best friend. All right, So nobody wants any sportscaster to sit on the fence, right, Well, what's the point? You got to pick a side on stuff? Right? And I'm just going to tell you when the story keeps coming out today that Belichick and Carol are close to joining forces to be the coach of the tar Heels, my takeaway in my opinion is it's eventually going to be a disaster. Let's start with this. He's seventy two, yeah, and his personality is formed. He's got no charisma. He's trying on the other network, but he doesn't have any charisma. And college football Dan Lanning big energy, good looking, confident, young sark salesman, Saban charming, Kirby smart, likewise, Marcus Freeman good looking, cool, Jim Harbaugh totally authentic, full of energy. Pete Carroll at USC, I mean he hit you like a strong drink man. He was coming at you one hundred miles an hour, chewing that gum. Good looking guy. I'm going to change your life. The players choose you in college football in today's nil Bill's patriot way. Hey take a little less for the team. Yeah, that's not happening. That's not happening. So that's the number one reason Belichick, in my opinion, seemed a little out of touch dealing with twenty seven to twenty eight, twenty nine year olds his last three years in pro football. Now he's dealing with seventeen and eighteen year olds. So that's the first part. The second part is, and this is true in a lot of universities, but it's really true at Carolina. The administration at Carolina right now is a little bit of a mess. Academics one side, sports and the other. This is a proud university that's rival is the academic power Duke, So they don't want to take a second fiddle to anybody. So North Carolina is serious about academics, and there's a lot of pushback upstairs in the academic world to the sports world and the football program. And by the way, what's interesting is the top college football agent is Jimmy Sexton. He is a power broker. Why is it he's sending his candidates to Carolina? Why are like second tier candidates backing out? Agents will tell you the truth where they send their people. If they start, If top agents in any industry start sending their people to certain locations it or not sending people to certain locations, it tells you everything. Why isn't Jimmy Sexton send it all of his great clients to Carolina because it is a top twenty twenty five job. So and the third thing is I think it's all about Bill Belichick wanting to give this job to his son in like a year. I think he's going to get worn out a year in and say I want to give it to my son, which, by the way, I get it. I'm a dad, totally get it. But whereas Dion Sanders went to Colorado and he was about attitude us noticing a program that was irrelevant, swag confidence, and I truly do believe that Dion Sanders really does care about elevating young men. To me, Belichick cares about elevating one young man, his son. And I get it, I really do. But that's not why you take a job, right Like I think Dion to Colorado works because I think he's a When it comes to Dion and what he really wants to do, he got the bag. He's the greatest cornerback of all time. He wanted to change some lives, including his son, not just his son, and so I don't buy it. I'm not sitting on the fence. Michael Irvin, who was so good yesterday on our show, The Playmaker, Former Cowboy, his thoughts on Belichick and Carolina.

The current landscape of college football is a lot different then even when Jimmy was in college. You know, so much different right then. You know Jimmy can really use the hammer to keep you alive. I just don't know if coach has the time to to counsel, and that's what it's going to take. That's what make Dion so great in college. He's really a mentor. Coaching coach is a coach that has forced a mentor. It's a lot dealing with kids in there and I just think it's it's yeah, that's not what coach want to be doing. He wants to coach football.

The current landscape of college football is a lot different then even when Jimmy was in college. You know, so much different right then. You know Jimmy can really use the hammer to keep you alive. I just don't know if coach has the time to to counsel, and that's what it's going to take. That's what make Dion so great in college. He's really a mentor. Coaching coach is a coach that has forced a mentor. It's a lot dealing with kids in there and I just think it's it's yeah, that's not what coach want to be doing. He wants to coach football.

Yeah, college football has gotten harder for college football coaches in the last five to ten years. I'd argue the NFL, though the owners are crazier and richer than ever, is easier because there's more really good quarterbacks and really talented offensive play callers and play designers. So for a head coach in the NFL, you don't have to be a wizard's comandically all sorts of very talented young coaches all over the NFL, and that league has a pension for coaches, so it's a much better place to be an assistant than college football. This doesn't work to me. It may make headlines, it may feel right for about six games or six months. I don't think it works. J Mack disagrees. We have some stories today. I have two potential very unpopular opinion only two, only two today. It's gonna be tough.

Yeah, college football has gotten harder for college football coaches in the last five to ten years. I'd argue the NFL, though the owners are crazier and richer than ever, is easier because there's more really good quarterbacks and really talented offensive play callers and play designers. So for a head coach in the NFL, you don't have to be a wizard's comandically all sorts of very talented young coaches all over the NFL, and that league has a pension for coaches, so it's a much better place to be an assistant than college football. This doesn't work to me. It may make headlines, it may feel right for about six games or six months. I don't think it works. J Mack disagrees. We have some stories today. I have two potential very unpopular opinion only two, only two today. It's gonna be tough.

To top yesterdays show, Colins. It was very strong, one of the better Tuesday shows. Well, you talked a lot, so I think you liked yesterday.

To top yesterdays show, Colins. It was very strong, one of the better Tuesday shows. Well, you talked a lot, so I think you liked yesterday.

No, that's what the people want.

No, that's what the people want.

You got to get the people with the right combative j Mac versus coastal elite Colins.

You got to get the people with the right combative j Mac versus coastal elite Colins.

Yeah, it was something like that.

Yeah, it was something like that.

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So I'm hoping this story is not true, but it comes from an NBA website called Clutch Points, and it says today sources close to the Lakers say that if James asked the Lakers to trade him and his names swirling around trade deadlines in like February, uh, they would work to defind Lebron a deal where he'd rather be. But it is believed James would only go if Bronnie, James's son would be part of the deal. So that's weak. I mean, the moment Lebron made playing with his son a priority, he probably punted on winning any more titles. So let's just be honest about this. Bronni's not an NBA player. He's not he's not a primary ball handler, he's not a shooting guard. He's tiny. He's athletic, but everybody in the league's athletic. He's not an NBA player, So I basically I totally supported Lebron again with his son in this that moment the first night they played together. Totally supported it. But we got to stop pretending here. This is getting Globe Trotter level. Sticky Brownie's not an NBA player, He's a G League player, and he's not a dominant G League player. He's not even a very good G League player. So and he wasn't a very good college player on a solid program, not a great one. So again, if Bronny and Braun were playing at the UCLA gym here five minutes from where I sit, and it was August and we all had our iPhones out, that's awesome. But trying to force us to believe like this is a real thing, we got to stop pretending it's inauthentic. It's just not good. And listen, NBA stars have always aged strangely. Michael Jordan was on the Wizards. He was cranky and didn't get along with his Washington teammates. Mellow was sending us random videos from gym's wherever, seeing he could make another roster. Shaq was on three teams in three seasons, and Lebron's trying to make us believe that Browny's an NBA player. He's a nice kid, and he's athletic, but he's a six to one non point guard. They do not exist. That would be like saying a really super slow wide receiver, they don't exist in the league. And so I mean, listen, I'm not trying to be mean, but have we gone from the decision to the delusion? If this story is true? And I don't think the Lakers should trade Lebron because the attendance is still good. He's the second best player on the team. He's a playmaker, and outside of Austin Reeves, they don't have another. So I think trading Lebron is ridiculous. But the Lakers have sort of allowed this, and there's where we stand now. He's at the center of trade rumors, and uh, it just feels terribly inauthentic. I can be okay with a moment, but not think it's a movement. Right, there's a lot of moments I support. They don't need to be movements, and I think it's just inauthentic to to try to make this a package deal would be saying, hey, both or what another team wanted. And I think Lebron at this point has a very limited market. I don't think Brony has one at all. Just being real here, J Mack with the news.

So I'm hoping this story is not true, but it comes from an NBA website called Clutch Points, and it says today sources close to the Lakers say that if James asked the Lakers to trade him and his names swirling around trade deadlines in like February, uh, they would work to defind Lebron a deal where he'd rather be. But it is believed James would only go if Bronnie, James's son would be part of the deal. So that's weak. I mean, the moment Lebron made playing with his son a priority, he probably punted on winning any more titles. So let's just be honest about this. Bronni's not an NBA player. He's not he's not a primary ball handler, he's not a shooting guard. He's tiny. He's athletic, but everybody in the league's athletic. He's not an NBA player, So I basically I totally supported Lebron again with his son in this that moment the first night they played together. Totally supported it. But we got to stop pretending here. This is getting Globe Trotter level. Sticky Brownie's not an NBA player, He's a G League player, and he's not a dominant G League player. He's not even a very good G League player. So and he wasn't a very good college player on a solid program, not a great one. So again, if Bronny and Braun were playing at the UCLA gym here five minutes from where I sit, and it was August and we all had our iPhones out, that's awesome. But trying to force us to believe like this is a real thing, we got to stop pretending it's inauthentic. It's just not good. And listen, NBA stars have always aged strangely. Michael Jordan was on the Wizards. He was cranky and didn't get along with his Washington teammates. Mellow was sending us random videos from gym's wherever, seeing he could make another roster. Shaq was on three teams in three seasons, and Lebron's trying to make us believe that Browny's an NBA player. He's a nice kid, and he's athletic, but he's a six to one non point guard. They do not exist. That would be like saying a really super slow wide receiver, they don't exist in the league. And so I mean, listen, I'm not trying to be mean, but have we gone from the decision to the delusion? If this story is true? And I don't think the Lakers should trade Lebron because the attendance is still good. He's the second best player on the team. He's a playmaker, and outside of Austin Reeves, they don't have another. So I think trading Lebron is ridiculous. But the Lakers have sort of allowed this, and there's where we stand now. He's at the center of trade rumors, and uh, it just feels terribly inauthentic. I can be okay with a moment, but not think it's a movement. Right, there's a lot of moments I support. They don't need to be movements, and I think it's just inauthentic to to try to make this a package deal would be saying, hey, both or what another team wanted. And I think Lebron at this point has a very limited market. I don't think Brony has one at all. Just being real here, J Mack with the news.

No, no, no, this is the herd Line news.

No, no, no, this is the herd Line news.

All right, we have a big one Thursday, Rams Niners. The Niners backs against the Wall, losing.

All right, we have a big one Thursday, Rams Niners. The Niners backs against the Wall, losing.

It's over.

It's over.

The Seahawks have a lead in the division, and San Francisco six and seven. Listen, it's been an injury plague season. Brock Perty, however, says, there's one way.

The Seahawks have a lead in the division, and San Francisco six and seven. Listen, it's been an injury plague season. Brock Perty, however, says, there's one way.

For San Francisco to play the rest of the.

For San Francisco to play the rest of the.

Year where we're at now.

Year where we're at now.

It can't be what is the end going to look like? It has to be we have to take care of business today and then tomorrow and then when the game comes, take care of each play and drive and quarter. It's just being in the moment, man, and not looking too far ahead. And so with that comes, you know, playing together as a team and playing desperate because we don't have room to lose or anything like that.

It can't be what is the end going to look like? It has to be we have to take care of business today and then tomorrow and then when the game comes, take care of each play and drive and quarter. It's just being in the moment, man, and not looking too far ahead. And so with that comes, you know, playing together as a team and playing desperate because we don't have room to lose or anything like that.

So that's just where we're at. I like the Niners close seven twenty four. I think this is their season, and I think it's really hard after you play Buffalo and play a perfect football game to duplicate it for the Rams. They played as well as any team is played for three and a half hours this season. They were virtually perfect blocked, not mistackles, I mean Matt Stafford seven on seven drill. They ran the ball, they threw it deep underneath, no drop passes. I mean the Rams put on a clinic on how to play pro football.

So that's just where we're at. I like the Niners close seven twenty four. I think this is their season, and I think it's really hard after you play Buffalo and play a perfect football game to duplicate it for the Rams. They played as well as any team is played for three and a half hours this season. They were virtually perfect blocked, not mistackles, I mean Matt Stafford seven on seven drill. They ran the ball, they threw it deep underneath, no drop passes. I mean the Rams put on a clinic on how to play pro football.

I would agree the Niners of the side here. You know what I like, though, is this leadership we're hearing from Brock Purdy at the podium, hat on forward.

I would agree the Niners of the side here. You know what I like, though, is this leadership we're hearing from Brock Purdy at the podium, hat on forward.

I did like that in I did like that. I've said before. His intangibles are excellent. Off the charts, hat straight ahead, looking to the future.

I did like that in I did like that. I've said before. His intangibles are excellent. Off the charts, hat straight ahead, looking to the future.

Are you getting Are you getting to the point where you're okapaying him forty million year? Yes?

Are you getting Are you getting to the point where you're okapaying him forty million year? Yes?

I think I think Brock Purty deserves something, But I think the team has a lot of leverage too. Explain well, go to his last twelve starts and look at his record. Look at his record when he doesn't have Christian McCaffrey. Trent Williams is getting old, so it would be it would be better served to have a bigger, more mobile quarterback than a smallish quarterback. I'm losing the best left tackle in a decade. A lot of things here that worry me, but he is.

I think I think Brock Purty deserves something, But I think the team has a lot of leverage too. Explain well, go to his last twelve starts and look at his record. Look at his record when he doesn't have Christian McCaffrey. Trent Williams is getting old, so it would be it would be better served to have a bigger, more mobile quarterback than a smallish quarterback. I'm losing the best left tackle in a decade. A lot of things here that worry me, but he is.

So without the coming into the season the greatest running back in the league.

So without the coming into the season the greatest running back in the league.

Yeah, he didn't play well.

Yeah, he didn't play well.

Boy, you know I'm not a good fighter with one hand tie behind my back. Colin and oh, by the way, Trent Williams missing time? Hey, a boat's out a yuke? I mean Jordan Nason, the backup running back who looked.

Boy, you know I'm not a good fighter with one hand tie behind my back. Colin and oh, by the way, Trent Williams missing time? Hey, a boat's out a yuke? I mean Jordan Nason, the backup running back who looked.

For Jalen Hurts, was almost an MVP without sakuon Barks.

For Jalen Hurts, was almost an MVP without sakuon Barks.

Jalen Hurts lost a j Brown for a game and they got destroyed by Tampa earlier this season.

Jalen Hurts lost a j Brown for a game and they got destroyed by Tampa earlier this season.

Ok, kamp is good. Damn's pretty good.

Ok, kamp is good. Damn's pretty good.

Team this whole Like, look at his stats.

Team this whole Like, look at his stats.

Come on, Mahad, We're not going to do this, are we? You don't really want to pay Rockberty.

Come on, Mahad, We're not going to do this, are we? You don't really want to pay Rockberty.

I am willing to pay him well below, I would say. Daniel Jones area.

I am willing to pay him well below, I would say. Daniel Jones area.

K kirk Cousins coming off and Achilles got like forty five? Is he getting that?

K kirk Cousins coming off and Achilles got like forty five? Is he getting that?

Kirk Cousins wins and ks want kirk Cousins has he He will be in the NFL record book multiple times for what for feeling my fleation percentage yards.

Kirk Cousins wins and ks want kirk Cousins has he He will be in the NFL record book multiple times for what for feeling my fleation percentage yards.

Off the top of your head, give me the most memorable Kirk Cousins playoff victory.

Off the top of your head, give me the most memorable Kirk Cousins playoff victory.

The miracle, the Minnesota miracle was isn't that him? Maybe I'm wrong. I don't think that was. I think or something. Kirk Cousins plays in the vicinity that very close.

The miracle, the Minnesota miracle was isn't that him? Maybe I'm wrong. I don't think that was. I think or something. Kirk Cousins plays in the vicinity that very close.

But Kirk Cousins, like Brock pretty had two game winning drives last year against your Packers and your Lions in the playoffs.

But Kirk Cousins, like Brock pretty had two game winning drives last year against your Packers and your Lions in the playoffs.

He was clutch. Yeah, that's the side. People for Colins ready to move on.

He was clutch. Yeah, that's the side. People for Colins ready to move on.

He doesn't like talking about rock Perty.

He doesn't like talking about rock Perty.

Next story, You're gonna love this.

Next story, You're gonna love this.

Caitlin Clark has been named Times Athlete of the Year. What a tremendous rookie season dominated the w NBA.

Caitlin Clark has been named Times Athlete of the Year. What a tremendous rookie season dominated the w NBA.

You could argue she should have been the MVP. Whatever, I'm not gonna argue with that.

You could argue she should have been the MVP. Whatever, I'm not gonna argue with that.

Set in w NBA record for assists for the most points by a Guarden single season WNBA history.

Set in w NBA record for assists for the most points by a Guarden single season WNBA history.

And she plays really kind of an NBA game, good handles, step back, three, NBA shooting range. I mean, she's really a clever, dynamic player. And I unlike the rest of America, am okay with some of the chippy played toward her, because I think that is what Larry Bird faced and Michael Jordan faced. I think it's what Bryce Harper faced. I think the ultimate sign of respect for women's sports is to not pander and appreciate the fact that women's basketball is really feisty and physical like men's basketball is. Let's not pander. She had to deal with the same stuff that all young stars getting tons of publicity had to deal with. MJ got a Detroit tackled him for four years.

And she plays really kind of an NBA game, good handles, step back, three, NBA shooting range. I mean, she's really a clever, dynamic player. And I unlike the rest of America, am okay with some of the chippy played toward her, because I think that is what Larry Bird faced and Michael Jordan faced. I think it's what Bryce Harper faced. I think the ultimate sign of respect for women's sports is to not pander and appreciate the fact that women's basketball is really feisty and physical like men's basketball is. Let's not pander. She had to deal with the same stuff that all young stars getting tons of publicity had to deal with. MJ got a Detroit tackled him for four years.

Actually that was a little different. That was the Jordan rules because he was utterly dominant. Well, go look at her after the first ten games, and guess.

Actually that was a little different. That was the Jordan rules because he was utterly dominant. Well, go look at her after the first ten games, and guess.

What the league did.

What the league did.

They basically made the Jordan rules go away because that wasn't good.

They basically made the Jordan rules go away because that wasn't good.

Drada after several years.

Drada after several years.

After several years, but still they were like, oh the slow to react, David Stern.

After several years, but still they were like, oh the slow to react, David Stern.

Are too many people in the media pander to women sports? The ultimate respect is saying they belong. I did ten Caitlin Clark segments and I monitor all of them and they all rated, Yeah, that's respect. Stop this whole feisty thing. Angel her and Angel Reese her rivals. They're both awesome.

Are too many people in the media pander to women sports? The ultimate respect is saying they belong. I did ten Caitlin Clark segments and I monitor all of them and they all rated, Yeah, that's respect. Stop this whole feisty thing. Angel her and Angel Reese her rivals. They're both awesome.

How are they rivals? Kitlin Clark's dominated her head to head.

How are they rivals? Kitlin Clark's dominated her head to head.

Angel.

Angel.

Rebounding records as a rookie. She's a which's a different dad.

Rebounding records as a rookie. She's a which's a different dad.

She can't make a shout outside the lane. There's no rivalry there either.

She can't make a shout outside the lane. There's no rivalry there either.

Well, I mean, I'm not wrong, That's what I'm saying. But Angel Reese is part of this too. You got Bird needed magic and vice versa. You need a rival and I think Angel Reese is a different player. She's feisty, She's an interior player. Caitlyn's a perimeter player.

Well, I mean, I'm not wrong, That's what I'm saying. But Angel Reese is part of this too. You got Bird needed magic and vice versa. You need a rival and I think Angel Reese is a different player. She's feisty, She's an interior player. Caitlyn's a perimeter player.

He could add disrespectful to Angel Reese. He's disrespectful to Kaitlin Clark. And you don't see Clark act in that way to Reaca.

He could add disrespectful to Angel Reese. He's disrespectful to Kaitlin Clark. And you don't see Clark act in that way to Reaca.

Well, and there's an old saying you never want to punch down. And Caitlyn is viewed as the superstar, Angel Reese is viewed as the star.

Well, and there's an old saying you never want to punch down. And Caitlyn is viewed as the superstar, Angel Reese is viewed as the star.

Are Ages is really good, She's a very good place. She's just not that's not being mean reality.

Are Ages is really good, She's a very good place. She's just not that's not being mean reality.

I'm sorry, you know if you guys want to dispute it, But like I just I'm very curious what the what the sophomore season is, Like we were talking about a sophomore sluck time, but also do you expect like a pullback in you know, ticket sales, TV ratings, all that stuff.

I'm sorry, you know if you guys want to dispute it, But like I just I'm very curious what the what the sophomore season is, Like we were talking about a sophomore sluck time, but also do you expect like a pullback in you know, ticket sales, TV ratings, all that stuff.

Up, up, up up up. Oh, Taani's gonna not get less popular. Well, Tony just.

Up, up, up up up. Oh, Taani's gonna not get less popular. Well, Tony just.

Won the World Series, so the Dodgers are at the top.

Won the World Series, so the Dodgers are at the top.

Up up, up up. Aaron Judge gets more popular every year. In New York, Mahomes gets more popular every year. Why is Kaitlyn Clark going backwards?

Up up, up up. Aaron Judge gets more popular every year. In New York, Mahomes gets more popular every year. Why is Kaitlyn Clark going backwards?

So when the schedule comes out, you want to go to a Kaitlyn.

So when the schedule comes out, you want to go to a Kaitlyn.

No problem, don't if I can get a ticket.

No problem, don't if I can get a ticket.

Well, we know some people.

Well, we know some people.

You know, you may I don't know anybody.

You know, you may I don't know anybody.

You know people, But no Caitlin Clark versus the La Sparks. They got a good team, they just didn't play well this year injuries. Yeah, maybe we'll go to a game down here in La.

You know people, But no Caitlin Clark versus the La Sparks. They got a good team, they just didn't play well this year injuries. Yeah, maybe we'll go to a game down here in La.

It's fun.

It's fun.

I'm down here in LA's it's fun.

I'm down here in LA's it's fun.

Uh.

Uh.

Let's go to the final story, and that is how about this?

Let's go to the final story, and that is how about this?

In college football? Old miss is playing Duke in the Gator Bowl. Are you ready for this? Duke's quarterback Malik Murphy, the kid who was at Texas Well, I think he was a five star recruit. He just set a Duke record for touchdown passes in a season. And he's not playing in the bowl game because he's in the transfer portal again.

In college football? Old miss is playing Duke in the Gator Bowl. Are you ready for this? Duke's quarterback Malik Murphy, the kid who was at Texas Well, I think he was a five star recruit. He just set a Duke record for touchdown passes in a season. And he's not playing in the bowl game because he's in the transfer portal again.

So stupid.

So stupid.

Well, well, we'll talk about this in a second.

Well, well, we'll talk about this in a second.

Ole Miss coach Lane Kiffin is not thrilled with the situation.

Ole Miss coach Lane Kiffin is not thrilled with the situation.

Me just think, get the NFL, you know, getting ready for the AFC NFC playoffs postseason, and players are you know, in free agency already.

Me just think, get the NFL, you know, getting ready for the AFC NFC playoffs postseason, and players are you know, in free agency already.

So it's really poor system.

So it's really poor system.

But we just try to manage the best we can through it and hopefully someday I'll get fixed.

But we just try to manage the best we can through it and hopefully someday I'll get fixed.

Yeah, Lane Kiffin is right. It's ridiculous that you can transfer as you go into bowls and playoffs. Even the NFL has like boundaries on when you can do things you have to. I don't have any problem transferring, not during the season, when the season is complete, after the playoff and ball system, then transfer for the next six months.

Yeah, Lane Kiffin is right. It's ridiculous that you can transfer as you go into bowls and playoffs. Even the NFL has like boundaries on when you can do things you have to. I don't have any problem transferring, not during the season, when the season is complete, after the playoff and ball system, then transfer for the next six months.

Okay, So let me ask you this. The Gator Bowl is not part of the playoffs. It is an irrelevant exhibition football. All balls nothing.

Okay, So let me ask you this. The Gator Bowl is not part of the playoffs. It is an irrelevant exhibition football. All balls nothing.

All balls, and playoffs have to be done before you get transfers, All balls done, all playoffs done. Well, should you be should you have be able to trade players in the NFL? Well, Carolina is not in the playoffs. They can trade right now, even though there's a playoffs going on. Everybody plays under the same trading rules, the same transfer I.

All balls, and playoffs have to be done before you get transfers, All balls done, all playoffs done. Well, should you be should you have be able to trade players in the NFL? Well, Carolina is not in the playoffs. They can trade right now, even though there's a playoffs going on. Everybody plays under the same trading rules, the same transfer I.

Think the trade deadline in the NFL is silly.

Think the trade deadline in the NFL is silly.

They need to push it way back yet, Why why shouldn't Carolina. Hey, our season's over, we're gonna tank. Yeah, we'll give up players. You want them on the everybody play take them. Anybody has schedules. Our show is on a schedule. It's nine to noon Pacific. We have a schedule. We have to show up at times. That's the way the world works. It can't just be.

They need to push it way back yet, Why why shouldn't Carolina. Hey, our season's over, we're gonna tank. Yeah, we'll give up players. You want them on the everybody play take them. Anybody has schedules. Our show is on a schedule. It's nine to noon Pacific. We have a schedule. We have to show up at times. That's the way the world works. It can't just be.

I'm gonna do what I want to do when i want to do it. That's not the way that your kids have a curfew. Your kids have school at a certain time. The buses come at a certain time.

I'm gonna do what I want to do when i want to do it. That's not the way that your kids have a curfew. Your kids have school at a certain time. The buses come at a certain time.

Totally different. Unfortunately, call it.

Totally different. Unfortunately, call it.

Let's say they expanded the playoff from twelve to thirty six and the Gator Bowl was in the playoff. Would this kid be transferring or would he say, shoot, we're in the playoff at the title.

Let's say they expanded the playoff from twelve to thirty six and the Gator Bowl was in the playoff. Would this kid be transferring or would he say, shoot, we're in the playoff at the title.

If you looked actually at the college football playoff contract, it will never be thirty sixteen. It will expand to fourteen at most, potentially in the next three years. It is a small playoff. There's a smaller number of bowl games. No transferring until everybody's season is complete. So therefore, you can't punish the good programs whose coaches are coaching games and give the lousy programs an advantage to be recruiting NonStop. Everybody has to play under certain guidelines. That's reasonable in any business.

If you looked actually at the college football playoff contract, it will never be thirty sixteen. It will expand to fourteen at most, potentially in the next three years. It is a small playoff. There's a smaller number of bowl games. No transferring until everybody's season is complete. So therefore, you can't punish the good programs whose coaches are coaching games and give the lousy programs an advantage to be recruiting NonStop. Everybody has to play under certain guidelines. That's reasonable in any business.

But hold on, does the same apply to coaches? If this coach of Duke Cutcliffe all of a sudden wants to leave next week.

But hold on, does the same apply to coaches? If this coach of Duke Cutcliffe all of a sudden wants to leave next week.

He can leave ball games happening.

He can leave ball games happening.

I don't care about. A CEO is different than an employee for the structure and foundation of a eight hundred thousand dollars program. If somebody fires a coach, like a player could quit a team, we're just saying you can't go to another one. Coaches come and go. They're not players, they're not even Nick Saban is more valuable than any college player ever.

I don't care about. A CEO is different than an employee for the structure and foundation of a eight hundred thousand dollars program. If somebody fires a coach, like a player could quit a team, we're just saying you can't go to another one. Coaches come and go. They're not players, they're not even Nick Saban is more valuable than any college player ever.

Right, But these guys going into the portal, they can't play in boguing.

Right, But these guys going into the portal, they can't play in boguing.

If you want to transfer, great, you can't land anywhere until the season is over. Is reasonable.

If you want to transfer, great, you can't land anywhere until the season is over. Is reasonable.

That makes sense, But I guess the argument would be, well, wait a second, it's an arms race.

That makes sense, But I guess the argument would be, well, wait a second, it's an arms race.

If we all enter at.

If we all enter at.

The exact same time, races between countries, have treaties. Everything has rules, even war there's NATO rules, there's wartime rules, like there's things you can't break. That's called organizational you know, consistency. Jmckle the news.

The exact same time, races between countries, have treaties. Everything has rules, even war there's NATO rules, there's wartime rules, like there's things you can't break. That's called organizational you know, consistency. Jmckle the news.

Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the herd.

Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the herd.

Here's an unpopular opinion. The Yankees didn't necessarily need Juan Soto. The Mets needed him more to be relevant. And oh, by the way, the Yankees yesterday went and signed left hander Max Freed from Atlanta. He's really good and he'll probably win more games than Juan Soto would have. I said this yesterday, go spend your money elsewhere. Well, he's thirty years old and it's a long deal. That's called Major rig Baseball. The way to beat the Dodgers is a top pitcher that can get out Freddie Freeman, Mookie Betts, and Otani and Max Freed against Betts owns him. Mookie Betts is two for thirty against Max Freed, and Freddie Freeman is two of thirteen. That's how you beat the Dodgers. Garrett Cole gave the Dodgers trouble. Nobody else on the staff did. They all got shelled. Power hitters didn't beat the Dodgers. Aaron Judge was irrelevant, Manny Machado, Francisco Lynn Door. The Yankees need more arms. Trying to beat the Dodgers with hitting is like trying to beat the KD STEPH Warriors at three point shooting. You're not going to I mean, good god. The National League Championship Series MVP for the Dodgers was Tommy Edmond, who would bat eighth or ninth. You're not beating the Dodgers at the plate. But Garrett Cole in the two games he started, was excellent and slowed them down. So this idea that won soda. You got Stanton and you got Aaron Judge. You got more than enough power. If you to sign Soto, you're not signing this excellent pitcher. Yes he's thirty, and yes that's a long contract for a thirty year old, but let's be honest, baseball, everybody's signing eight year deals. So the Yankees need more elite starters, not a seven hundred million dollar power hitter. By the way, Soto's contract would have been like double what Aaron Judge makes. That would have been a weird vibe in New York. You don't think that would have been a weird vibe. So I said this yesterday. You can look at the Wan Soto thing. Oh this is terrible. I think he's a better fit with the Mets in the same you know side as the Dodgers. If you want to get to a World Series, the Mets may need Juan Soto. I don't think the Yankees do. They've got power hitters. What they need is more depth of pitching. You're not going to out hit the Dodgers. That's not it. That's not gonna work. Here's Brian Cashman this morning on the MLB Network on missing out on Wan Soto, a great player.

Here's an unpopular opinion. The Yankees didn't necessarily need Juan Soto. The Mets needed him more to be relevant. And oh, by the way, the Yankees yesterday went and signed left hander Max Freed from Atlanta. He's really good and he'll probably win more games than Juan Soto would have. I said this yesterday, go spend your money elsewhere. Well, he's thirty years old and it's a long deal. That's called Major rig Baseball. The way to beat the Dodgers is a top pitcher that can get out Freddie Freeman, Mookie Betts, and Otani and Max Freed against Betts owns him. Mookie Betts is two for thirty against Max Freed, and Freddie Freeman is two of thirteen. That's how you beat the Dodgers. Garrett Cole gave the Dodgers trouble. Nobody else on the staff did. They all got shelled. Power hitters didn't beat the Dodgers. Aaron Judge was irrelevant, Manny Machado, Francisco Lynn Door. The Yankees need more arms. Trying to beat the Dodgers with hitting is like trying to beat the KD STEPH Warriors at three point shooting. You're not going to I mean, good god. The National League Championship Series MVP for the Dodgers was Tommy Edmond, who would bat eighth or ninth. You're not beating the Dodgers at the plate. But Garrett Cole in the two games he started, was excellent and slowed them down. So this idea that won soda. You got Stanton and you got Aaron Judge. You got more than enough power. If you to sign Soto, you're not signing this excellent pitcher. Yes he's thirty, and yes that's a long contract for a thirty year old, but let's be honest, baseball, everybody's signing eight year deals. So the Yankees need more elite starters, not a seven hundred million dollar power hitter. By the way, Soto's contract would have been like double what Aaron Judge makes. That would have been a weird vibe in New York. You don't think that would have been a weird vibe. So I said this yesterday. You can look at the Wan Soto thing. Oh this is terrible. I think he's a better fit with the Mets in the same you know side as the Dodgers. If you want to get to a World Series, the Mets may need Juan Soto. I don't think the Yankees do. They've got power hitters. What they need is more depth of pitching. You're not going to out hit the Dodgers. That's not it. That's not gonna work. Here's Brian Cashman this morning on the MLB Network on missing out on Wan Soto, a great player.

From the Yankee standpoint, you no retreat, no surrender. We get back after it and find a way to put together a roster that our fans are going to be excited about and we think, you know, we'll take us a chance another We want to defend that American League title and get back in the World Series and try to win it.

From the Yankee standpoint, you no retreat, no surrender. We get back after it and find a way to put together a roster that our fans are going to be excited about and we think, you know, we'll take us a chance another We want to defend that American League title and get back in the World Series and try to win it.

Yeah. I said yesterday, you just saved yourself a lot of money. Get a better staff, get it back. I mean, the Dodgers pitching staff was so deep in the bullpen. The Podres were red hot. The Dodgers threw a bullpen game and like eight different guys through an inning and shut them out. They were winning bullpen games against elite teams in the playoffs. So and you're not getting I mean, if Max Munsey bets Freeman, Tommy Edmund, Oh Tawny, it's just an endless stream of elite hitters. You're not out hitting the Dodgers, all right, and you're not out shooting Katie Stephan the Warriors. There was ways to beat him, that wasn't it all right? Josh McDaniels is coming up in studio.

Yeah. I said yesterday, you just saved yourself a lot of money. Get a better staff, get it back. I mean, the Dodgers pitching staff was so deep in the bullpen. The Podres were red hot. The Dodgers threw a bullpen game and like eight different guys through an inning and shut them out. They were winning bullpen games against elite teams in the playoffs. So and you're not getting I mean, if Max Munsey bets Freeman, Tommy Edmund, Oh Tawny, it's just an endless stream of elite hitters. You're not out hitting the Dodgers, all right, and you're not out shooting Katie Stephan the Warriors. There was ways to beat him, that wasn't it all right? Josh McDaniels is coming up in studio.

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Six Super Bowl rings. Fourteen years offensive coordinator, four years as a head coach. What a pleasure to have Josh McDaniels back. There's so many things today I want to touch on it. I said this as that for years, I was sort of like, the cake is the quarterback, left tackle, the run game, the D line, the O line. Receivers are the icing. They make it fun, yep, but they're not essential. And then the rule changes and then they became more essential. But I'm looking at the resurgence of running backs Baltimore, Green Bay, Detroit, Washington Power teams. It's a cyclical league. In the last year and a half, something has happened where teams now are moving back to the run game.

Six Super Bowl rings. Fourteen years offensive coordinator, four years as a head coach. What a pleasure to have Josh McDaniels back. There's so many things today I want to touch on it. I said this as that for years, I was sort of like, the cake is the quarterback, left tackle, the run game, the D line, the O line. Receivers are the icing. They make it fun, yep, but they're not essential. And then the rule changes and then they became more essential. But I'm looking at the resurgence of running backs Baltimore, Green Bay, Detroit, Washington Power teams. It's a cyclical league. In the last year and a half, something has happened where teams now are moving back to the run game.

Why yeah, I think in many regards, it's the defense's response to those elite players on the outside. And when there's more safeties in the deep part of the field and less people down near the line of scrimmage, there's just less things you can do to get those guys the ball, and so the guy that's standing by the quarterback or behind the quarterback becomes more valuable because honestly, that's the right thing to do. When there's a light box or a fair fight inside, you give those guys the ball. And you can see there's a lot of great running backs in this league, right you know, I don't think they should be devalued, but you know, based on how defenses are defending, you know, teams and offenses, I think they've become more valuable as we're seeing right now.

Why yeah, I think in many regards, it's the defense's response to those elite players on the outside. And when there's more safeties in the deep part of the field and less people down near the line of scrimmage, there's just less things you can do to get those guys the ball, and so the guy that's standing by the quarterback or behind the quarterback becomes more valuable because honestly, that's the right thing to do. When there's a light box or a fair fight inside, you give those guys the ball. And you can see there's a lot of great running backs in this league, right you know, I don't think they should be devalued, but you know, based on how defenses are defending, you know, teams and offenses, I think they've become more valuable as we're seeing right now.

Historically, receivers have been noisier and more verbal. I've always said they're kind of the pro basketball players of football. They break the huddle. First, it's one on one. They're often the biggest, longest athlete. They want the ball and I get it, yep. But like in Philadelphia, now, now we got an issue. We're red hot, We're clearly off the by Josh, we're gonna throw less, We're gonna run more. The centerpiece is saque. It's working. How would you quiet the locker room? There are increasing stories brandon Ingram Jalen. You know, Dak and Dez had an issue in Dallas. I thought made the right decision. They moved as out. AJ Brown's really good. How do you quiet the noise in season?

Historically, receivers have been noisier and more verbal. I've always said they're kind of the pro basketball players of football. They break the huddle. First, it's one on one. They're often the biggest, longest athlete. They want the ball and I get it, yep. But like in Philadelphia, now, now we got an issue. We're red hot, We're clearly off the by Josh, we're gonna throw less, We're gonna run more. The centerpiece is saque. It's working. How would you quiet the locker room? There are increasing stories brandon Ingram Jalen. You know, Dak and Dez had an issue in Dallas. I thought made the right decision. They moved as out. AJ Brown's really good. How do you quiet the noise in season?

Yeah? I think you. Look, you have to tell them and show them. Honestly, showing them is more important than telling them that you're interested in getting them the ball. And the only reason you want them to have the ball is because they're they're going to help your team win more than any other player at that position. And there's certain guys like AJ Brown and we just saw one game on Monday night with Jamar and CD and you know the Justin Jefferson's in the world and these guys that are they're elite players. They deserve to have the ball as an offensive coordinator and the quarterback. You want to get them the ball, but there's also a lot of attention being paid to those guys. So look, I think there's there's a balance there, you know, between forcing it to them too much, where you know they're trying to take them out of the game, and now you're you're just punting a lot, you know, and throwing a lot of incomplete passes and not getting them the ball at all. And so I think you just try to find the balance, you know, keep them, keep them involved early in the game. I think that's important is to get them involved right away, just so they touch the football, they're in the flow of the game. And then the design of the off when you are throwing the ball, you know it should go through those guys.

Yeah? I think you. Look, you have to tell them and show them. Honestly, showing them is more important than telling them that you're interested in getting them the ball. And the only reason you want them to have the ball is because they're they're going to help your team win more than any other player at that position. And there's certain guys like AJ Brown and we just saw one game on Monday night with Jamar and CD and you know the Justin Jefferson's in the world and these guys that are they're elite players. They deserve to have the ball as an offensive coordinator and the quarterback. You want to get them the ball, but there's also a lot of attention being paid to those guys. So look, I think there's there's a balance there, you know, between forcing it to them too much, where you know they're trying to take them out of the game, and now you're you're just punting a lot, you know, and throwing a lot of incomplete passes and not getting them the ball at all. And so I think you just try to find the balance, you know, keep them, keep them involved early in the game. I think that's important is to get them involved right away, just so they touch the football, they're in the flow of the game. And then the design of the off when you are throwing the ball, you know it should go through those guys.

It just should. So there are decisions. Russell Wilson is I would say there's a resurgence, but he was seen as a declining player in Denver. Kirk Cousins appears to be declining fast. Brady was remarkably able to stay at a high level, and his decline was very very hard to see. If you're i mean, you're like a master at this, this may not something that you would talk publicly about. But what would be the first thing you would see with a quarterback and think whisper to Bill or whisper to a coach. He doesn't have blank.

It just should. So there are decisions. Russell Wilson is I would say there's a resurgence, but he was seen as a declining player in Denver. Kirk Cousins appears to be declining fast. Brady was remarkably able to stay at a high level, and his decline was very very hard to see. If you're i mean, you're like a master at this, this may not something that you would talk publicly about. But what would be the first thing you would see with a quarterback and think whisper to Bill or whisper to a coach. He doesn't have blank.

Anymore, yeah, I think. And we didn't see it with Tommy. Yeah, you know, and and he's rare as you know, I mean, very want the rare. Yeah, you know, to me, if if you start to feel like they don't want the hits, you know, and the ball's kind of coming out maybe earlier than it should be, Yeah, beat early because they just know what's about to come, you know, and hit them in the in the chest or in the shoulder or you know, those those start to accumulate over time and they start to hurt more. And we were talking about it, you know, the the NASCAR drivers that get a little older that all of a sudden they start to fall down the leaderboard and they're still driving for the same organization. They're still doing the same thing.

Anymore, yeah, I think. And we didn't see it with Tommy. Yeah, you know, and and he's rare as you know, I mean, very want the rare. Yeah, you know, to me, if if you start to feel like they don't want the hits, you know, and the ball's kind of coming out maybe earlier than it should be, Yeah, beat early because they just know what's about to come, you know, and hit them in the in the chest or in the shoulder or you know, those those start to accumulate over time and they start to hurt more. And we were talking about it, you know, the the NASCAR drivers that get a little older that all of a sudden they start to fall down the leaderboard and they're still driving for the same organization. They're still doing the same thing.

Got four kids, Yes, right.

Got four kids, Yes, right.

There's a little bit more to drive for or play for.

There's a little bit more to drive for or play for.

Right.

Right.

And I don't even know that anybody makes those decisions consciously. I think it's almost a subconscious decision that your body makes for you that you know, it may not want to go through this anymore.

And I don't even know that anybody makes those decisions consciously. I think it's almost a subconscious decision that your body makes for you that you know, it may not want to go through this anymore.

Yeah, if you were in Chicago, so it structurally as an organization on tilt. Give me the first thing. I'm Caleb Williams. You walk into the room. What is the first thing you do? Because he was struggling, ascending plateaued dropping. What's the first order of business to a talented young quarterback to get him right?

Yeah, if you were in Chicago, so it structurally as an organization on tilt. Give me the first thing. I'm Caleb Williams. You walk into the room. What is the first thing you do? Because he was struggling, ascending plateaued dropping. What's the first order of business to a talented young quarterback to get him right?

You're talking about right now.

You're talking about right now.

Caleb Williams today walked in today today? How do you get it back?

Caleb Williams today walked in today today? How do you get it back?

What do you feel most comfortable doing? You know, I ask you, Yeah, what do you feel most comfortable doing? Because the offense isn't going to be very good doing things that I like if you don't like them, right, you know. And so I think the biggest thing you have to do is what's in his bucket that he feels really good about? And and you start with that and honestly major in that. And then if if you say, hey, I think there's a few things that would help us as a team if we could add these to your bucket, you know, and then at that point, you know, you've got to have the conversation. And I think he deserves to know why you want to do that. You know, I think if we do this, that helps us get the ball down the field more. We can get this guy the ball if we do some you know, some of this. But I think, to me, it has to start with where he's comfortable. And look, these rookie quarterbacks, as we've seen, there's been flashes of great play from.

What do you feel most comfortable doing? You know, I ask you, Yeah, what do you feel most comfortable doing? Because the offense isn't going to be very good doing things that I like if you don't like them, right, you know. And so I think the biggest thing you have to do is what's in his bucket that he feels really good about? And and you start with that and honestly major in that. And then if if you say, hey, I think there's a few things that would help us as a team if we could add these to your bucket, you know, and then at that point, you know, you've got to have the conversation. And I think he deserves to know why you want to do that. You know, I think if we do this, that helps us get the ball down the field more. We can get this guy the ball if we do some you know, some of this. But I think, to me, it has to start with where he's comfortable. And look, these rookie quarterbacks, as we've seen, there's been flashes of great play from.

All and all of them have had bad days, that's right.

All and all of them have had bad days, that's right.

And they all and some of them have hit like a little bit of a lull or a wall, if you will, and then you kind of got to get get them back. And so I think to me, it starts with what do you feel most comfortable doing on a play to play basis, Let's do more of that. Let's major in that and then see where we go from there.

And they all and some of them have hit like a little bit of a lull or a wall, if you will, and then you kind of got to get get them back. And so I think to me, it starts with what do you feel most comfortable doing on a play to play basis, Let's do more of that. Let's major in that and then see where we go from there.

So, in any industry, if something's viewed as a high stress job, and there's a lot it could be a fighter pilot, could be an astronaut, the company usually gives you longer time to recover, right, And so let's let's not perfectly analogous to football, But when you're the Chiefs and every game, yep, it's a one score, one possession game, is it possible that it does wear on you over the course of a season that you need some layups in this league and they don't get any layups.

So, in any industry, if something's viewed as a high stress job, and there's a lot it could be a fighter pilot, could be an astronaut, the company usually gives you longer time to recover, right, And so let's let's not perfectly analogous to football, But when you're the Chiefs and every game, yep, it's a one score, one possession game, is it possible that it does wear on you over the course of a season that you need some layups in this league and they don't get any layups.

Yeah, it can if you're focused on just the result. I think if you're focusing on the process and that team on Monday when they watch the film, that they're playing pretty good football. And right now, based on all of our injuries and in the situation the circumstances that we have, this is this is the best we're gonna do right now, you know what I mean, not saying that we can't improve, but look, you know the days of thinking you're going to go in there and score forty every time, that's not right now, that's not this team. You know now when they had Hollywood and Rashi and you know, they were healthier and they lost Pachiko for a while, and I mean, look, they've had to deal with a lot of things.

Yeah, it can if you're focused on just the result. I think if you're focusing on the process and that team on Monday when they watch the film, that they're playing pretty good football. And right now, based on all of our injuries and in the situation the circumstances that we have, this is this is the best we're gonna do right now, you know what I mean, not saying that we can't improve, but look, you know the days of thinking you're going to go in there and score forty every time, that's not right now, that's not this team. You know now when they had Hollywood and Rashi and you know, they were healthier and they lost Pachiko for a while, and I mean, look, they've had to deal with a lot of things.

This year for three years.

This year for three years.

Yeah, they really have. And they've played more games than everybody else. Yes too, So there look that happens that happened to us in New England, where you just there's a there's an attrition that takes over when you're the team that's playing the final game of the season. So I think, to me, I think they'll do a great Andes does a phenomenal job always, but he'll keep it in perspective. You know, there's value in winning close games. They're going to have to win them in January in that fashion, and so I think his team is mentally and physically tough, and for that, I think there's a lot of positive.

Yeah, they really have. And they've played more games than everybody else. Yes too, So there look that happens that happened to us in New England, where you just there's a there's an attrition that takes over when you're the team that's playing the final game of the season. So I think, to me, I think they'll do a great Andes does a phenomenal job always, but he'll keep it in perspective. You know, there's value in winning close games. They're going to have to win them in January in that fashion, and so I think his team is mentally and physically tough, and for that, I think there's a lot of positive.

Finally, we've seen Jordan Love of Green Bay and Jalen Hurts. Both staffs have said we want you to throw less. So Jordan loves getting in the twenty two to twenty three attempts. In fact, anytime he's thrown over like thirty thirty five in their own three And by the way, it works and they have great running back. Yep, Philadelphia, Jalen at thirty four, we get loose at twenty four. We're great when you had Tom And even though Tom is the most efficient and productive quarterback ever, was there a number you looked at and you would be in game thinking this isn't what I want. We're going too many innings here because Tom was obsessed to begin with. You know, like Tommy would just throw at fifty if you let him. Did you go into games or over the course of a season, Okay, now we're in November. Did you have a number as.

Finally, we've seen Jordan Love of Green Bay and Jalen Hurts. Both staffs have said we want you to throw less. So Jordan loves getting in the twenty two to twenty three attempts. In fact, anytime he's thrown over like thirty thirty five in their own three And by the way, it works and they have great running back. Yep, Philadelphia, Jalen at thirty four, we get loose at twenty four. We're great when you had Tom And even though Tom is the most efficient and productive quarterback ever, was there a number you looked at and you would be in game thinking this isn't what I want. We're going too many innings here because Tom was obsessed to begin with. You know, like Tommy would just throw at fifty if you let him. Did you go into games or over the course of a season, Okay, now we're in November. Did you have a number as.

Court depended on who we were playing? Okay, you know, if you go into the game and you say, listen, throwing the ball against Dwight Freenie in math this in that pass rush, you know, fifty two times is not a good idea. We need to run the ball, you know, twenty eight thirty thirty two times for us to feel better about controlling the game.

Court depended on who we were playing? Okay, you know, if you go into the game and you say, listen, throwing the ball against Dwight Freenie in math this in that pass rush, you know, fifty two times is not a good idea. We need to run the ball, you know, twenty eight thirty thirty two times for us to feel better about controlling the game.

Right.

Right.

That's different. There were times where we played, you know, the Baltimore Ravens, and we went into the game saying we're definitely throwing at fifty five or more times. And I think the decision during the week and the comfort you get with it and you tell the team this is how we're going to try to win. Yeah, well he would, yeah, he would tell me that. You know, like, I don't think we're going to make many yards running the ball this week, you know, And you say, okay, you know, well how many is too many?

That's different. There were times where we played, you know, the Baltimore Ravens, and we went into the game saying we're definitely throwing at fifty five or more times. And I think the decision during the week and the comfort you get with it and you tell the team this is how we're going to try to win. Yeah, well he would, yeah, he would tell me that. You know, like, I don't think we're going to make many yards running the ball this week, you know, And you say, okay, you know, well how many is too many?

You know?

You know?

Seven?

Seven?

You know, so so you just you just say, all right, we're going to put all our eggs in this basket. Now, you might design the offensive game plan a little differently, you know, maybe a couple less down the field, throws and more screens or something else that are extensions of the running game. But that stopped the rush from becoming a big factor. But I think what these teams are after is complimentary football. Don't turn it over. Score score points when we get our opportunities. Give the ball to the back as much as we can, create some big plays off the at and play action and then play good defense.

You know, so so you just you just say, all right, we're going to put all our eggs in this basket. Now, you might design the offensive game plan a little differently, you know, maybe a couple less down the field, throws and more screens or something else that are extensions of the running game. But that stopped the rush from becoming a big factor. But I think what these teams are after is complimentary football. Don't turn it over. Score score points when we get our opportunities. Give the ball to the back as much as we can, create some big plays off the at and play action and then play good defense.

Yeah, get a lead. Run games are great with the lead, not just trailing. That's right, Great with the lead, that's right. Love having you on, man, I love being here.

Yeah, get a lead. Run games are great with the lead, not just trailing. That's right, Great with the lead, that's right. Love having you on, man, I love being here.