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Thanks for listening to The Herd Podcast. Be sure to catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports Radio in noon to three Eastern nine am to noon Pacific. Find your local station for The Herd at Fox Sportsradio dot com, or stream us live every day on the iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. Thanks for listening to the Herd Podcast. Here we go on to Thursday Live in Los Angeles. It's the Herd wherever you may be and however you may be listening. Thanks for making us part of your day. One hour from now, Greg coast sell if you play fantasy football, bet football, or just want to get smarter at football. Greg Cosell joins us in one hour from now. Jmak a deliriously fun day for most people, maybe not the Oregon Ducks. I'll watching college football yesterday. The smoke is starting to clear. It looks like Ohio State is coming through the fog. Imagine that. Yeah, we both like to Isle State yesterday. We kind of felt like that was the play yesterday. Ryan they keeping his job.

Huh, nice job by him.

Huh, nice job by him.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Ryan Day's in line for a natty potentially. So there's always been an understanding in the NFL that football, real football starts post Thanksgiving, that you want to be peaking in December and January. You can experiment in September. It's not punitive if you lose a couple of games by early October. Meanwhile, college football, with the younger athletes who have to go to school, why they play. There's been this unhealthy and unrealistic standard that you've got to be on your a game and perfect starting Labor Day weekend stumble in October, you are unworthy. Off to the Fiesta Bowl, Off to the Citrus Bowl, Off to the Pop Tart Bowl. But now you're allowed to grow. And Ohio State is the first team in college football history allowed to grow. They had a close loss early at outsin all right. Uh, they were awful at home and stumbled against Michigan late. All right, But they did beat Penn State and blew out a lot of teams. So you know what, we're gonna let him in. We're gonna let him in. And they've been the best team easily in the tournament. Ryan Day, get him out of here. Oh wait, my bad. He had a bad Saturday. Will Howard had a bad Saturday. Yeah, it was late in the season that would have disqualified them my entire life. The Buckeyes this moment are easily the best team in college football. Why did it take so long? Well, I don't know. Their best player player Jeremiah Smith receiver, he was in high school last year. Their second best player Caleb Downs, he's a sophomore and a transfer. Also, yeah, they're quarterback transferred to It takes a while sometimes you gotta let the cake bake. By the way, Notre Dame Law to Northern Illinois earlier this year. How is that possible? Because they had a transfer quarterback who now, Riley Leonard's playing really really well in the NFL. You've always been given time. Tom Brady won a Super Bowl in week ten eleven twelve. That Tampa Bay team was terrible. They got hot. Then Peyton Manning had a team in Denver. They were two and two in December and January, and they got hot in one the Kansas City Chiefs the last two years, I mean last year, Kansas City lost to the Raiders late in the year. Yet they were the best team in football. Yet we've always held college kids to this unbelievable standard of well, what do you mean you lost to Purdue October. First, you're out of here. Liberty ball or nothing, give me Liberty Bowl or death. The point being is Ohio State's the first team in college football history that has been allowed to make a couple of mistakes. The Oregon loss. Who's winning at Otson? How about we start with nobody? Yeah, they had a bad game against Michigan. Great coach Andy Reids had bad games in Philadelphia. They ran him out of town. He had bad games. Tom Brady had bad games. He hit a pick six in the Super Bowl. So finally, finally you can take different paths to a Natty. It's not perfection, by the way, how many seventeen to no NFL teams are been and if Penn State gets to the Natty, they will have played seventeen games, And you're holding him to a perfect standard. In a sport football where a guy jars the ball loose. If you fumble it the one out of the end zone, the other team gets the ball and it can ruin your season. Let kids make mistakes. When you were a freshman or sophomore in college, did you have it all buttoned up your first semester in September? College football is getting more and more like the NFL, and finally we're allowing a team like Ohio State with this transfer portal where chemistry challenges, especially at quarterback or a real issue. Nobody knew what they were getting with Will Howard. I watched the MC Kansas State. I was like, yeah, it is gonna be pretty good, and then I thought it was pretty good. And now against Michigan, he was pretty bad. And it's you know, he had a bad game because all quarterbacks do, including Tom Brady and Patrick Mahomes. Mahomes stunk earlier this year, now he doesn't. So you gotta let you gotta let the cake bake. In Ohio State, Ryan Day is secure, has the best team, and here he is after dominating the Ducks.

Ryan Day's in line for a natty potentially. So there's always been an understanding in the NFL that football, real football starts post Thanksgiving, that you want to be peaking in December and January. You can experiment in September. It's not punitive if you lose a couple of games by early October. Meanwhile, college football, with the younger athletes who have to go to school, why they play. There's been this unhealthy and unrealistic standard that you've got to be on your a game and perfect starting Labor Day weekend stumble in October, you are unworthy. Off to the Fiesta Bowl, Off to the Citrus Bowl, Off to the Pop Tart Bowl. But now you're allowed to grow. And Ohio State is the first team in college football history allowed to grow. They had a close loss early at outsin all right. Uh, they were awful at home and stumbled against Michigan late. All right, But they did beat Penn State and blew out a lot of teams. So you know what, we're gonna let him in. We're gonna let him in. And they've been the best team easily in the tournament. Ryan Day, get him out of here. Oh wait, my bad. He had a bad Saturday. Will Howard had a bad Saturday. Yeah, it was late in the season that would have disqualified them my entire life. The Buckeyes this moment are easily the best team in college football. Why did it take so long? Well, I don't know. Their best player player Jeremiah Smith receiver, he was in high school last year. Their second best player Caleb Downs, he's a sophomore and a transfer. Also, yeah, they're quarterback transferred to It takes a while sometimes you gotta let the cake bake. By the way, Notre Dame Law to Northern Illinois earlier this year. How is that possible? Because they had a transfer quarterback who now, Riley Leonard's playing really really well in the NFL. You've always been given time. Tom Brady won a Super Bowl in week ten eleven twelve. That Tampa Bay team was terrible. They got hot. Then Peyton Manning had a team in Denver. They were two and two in December and January, and they got hot in one the Kansas City Chiefs the last two years, I mean last year, Kansas City lost to the Raiders late in the year. Yet they were the best team in football. Yet we've always held college kids to this unbelievable standard of well, what do you mean you lost to Purdue October. First, you're out of here. Liberty ball or nothing, give me Liberty Bowl or death. The point being is Ohio State's the first team in college football history that has been allowed to make a couple of mistakes. The Oregon loss. Who's winning at Otson? How about we start with nobody? Yeah, they had a bad game against Michigan. Great coach Andy Reids had bad games in Philadelphia. They ran him out of town. He had bad games. Tom Brady had bad games. He hit a pick six in the Super Bowl. So finally, finally you can take different paths to a Natty. It's not perfection, by the way, how many seventeen to no NFL teams are been and if Penn State gets to the Natty, they will have played seventeen games, And you're holding him to a perfect standard. In a sport football where a guy jars the ball loose. If you fumble it the one out of the end zone, the other team gets the ball and it can ruin your season. Let kids make mistakes. When you were a freshman or sophomore in college, did you have it all buttoned up your first semester in September? College football is getting more and more like the NFL, and finally we're allowing a team like Ohio State with this transfer portal where chemistry challenges, especially at quarterback or a real issue. Nobody knew what they were getting with Will Howard. I watched the MC Kansas State. I was like, yeah, it is gonna be pretty good, and then I thought it was pretty good. And now against Michigan, he was pretty bad. And it's you know, he had a bad game because all quarterbacks do, including Tom Brady and Patrick Mahomes. Mahomes stunk earlier this year, now he doesn't. So you gotta let you gotta let the cake bake. In Ohio State, Ryan Day is secure, has the best team, and here he is after dominating the Ducks.

I know that, you know, there are some of your experiences and this team has had great wins this season, it's had some tough losses, and you know, we have learned Shagnokees and you got to grow and you've got to build, and you've got to make sure you're, you know, focusing on your strengths and making sure that you know you understand what your your weaknesses are. And you know, we're at a place where you know you can, you can hear a lot of noise.

I know that, you know, there are some of your experiences and this team has had great wins this season, it's had some tough losses, and you know, we have learned Shagnokees and you got to grow and you've got to build, and you've got to make sure you're, you know, focusing on your strengths and making sure that you know you understand what your your weaknesses are. And you know, we're at a place where you know you can, you can hear a lot of noise.

But but they didn't do that.

But but they didn't do that.

And I'm very very proud of our staff.

And I'm very very proud of our staff.

I'm very very proud of our players. But we're far from done. All those Buckeye fans are now racing their posts on buckeyes dot com and reddit boards. Get him out of here. No terrible loss, suffered some pain. What does pain create for all of us? Toughness and resiliency and rethink the way your football team's operating. Ohio State, check check check did all of those, and now they're the best team in college football. Okay, let's talk Texas Texas football. As a saying in Texas all had no cattle. Sometimes Texas is all talent, no discipline. How many penalties they had? I don't know how many? How many three and outs did they have? So first of all, let's talk about Arizona State. Let's just give them a minute of love. Here outplayed out, schemed out coach Texas. Here's another out, an out rageously miss targeting call that would have probably given Arizona State, which had all the momentum, the win. What a coach Dillingham three and nine last year pick for sixteenth in the Big Ten this year. No five star players should have beaten Texas, And yes, that's targeting. In every game I've ever watched, I don't like the call. I don't like when they throw college players out of games, but that's targeting. Yes, Texas had the deeper roster, the more NFL bodies, and listen, they're a splash team. They averaged ten point seven yards of pass. That is Texas. But I think they're going to get rolled by Ohio State, who's playing with a level of defensive violence and offensive perfection that has just looks like a Sunday team. So you know Sark and I like Sark and I consider him a coaching friend, right like somebody in coaching I could call and ask a question. They're saying all year has been all gas, no breaks. They need some breaks. They need to stop the car, pull over, go to a rest area, wash off and figure out what they are because that's not meeting Ohio State. Ten penalties, three and outs. Now they are a splash team, and in fourth quarter to tie it up, and then in overtime a couple overtime passes like that's what they are. That's what they are. But in between these amazing plays by these amazing Texas Longhorm athletes, you can't have ten penalties, you can't miss assignments. I mean, it looked like Arizona State really could not wait to play another game. They were so intent, playing with such intention and urgency, And sometimes I just feel like my entire life this has been Texas football. I feel like they should be six time national champs, not that one Vince Young team and disappointment. I can't explain it. I thought Arizona State outplayed them. I thought they got hosed on a call. Yes, I do think Texas matches up with Ohio State better more NFL bodies. They're only a six point underdog this morning. I'll take Ohio State. But I guess they were resilient. That's what Sarks said.

I'm very very proud of our players. But we're far from done. All those Buckeye fans are now racing their posts on buckeyes dot com and reddit boards. Get him out of here. No terrible loss, suffered some pain. What does pain create for all of us? Toughness and resiliency and rethink the way your football team's operating. Ohio State, check check check did all of those, and now they're the best team in college football. Okay, let's talk Texas Texas football. As a saying in Texas all had no cattle. Sometimes Texas is all talent, no discipline. How many penalties they had? I don't know how many? How many three and outs did they have? So first of all, let's talk about Arizona State. Let's just give them a minute of love. Here outplayed out, schemed out coach Texas. Here's another out, an out rageously miss targeting call that would have probably given Arizona State, which had all the momentum, the win. What a coach Dillingham three and nine last year pick for sixteenth in the Big Ten this year. No five star players should have beaten Texas, And yes, that's targeting. In every game I've ever watched, I don't like the call. I don't like when they throw college players out of games, but that's targeting. Yes, Texas had the deeper roster, the more NFL bodies, and listen, they're a splash team. They averaged ten point seven yards of pass. That is Texas. But I think they're going to get rolled by Ohio State, who's playing with a level of defensive violence and offensive perfection that has just looks like a Sunday team. So you know Sark and I like Sark and I consider him a coaching friend, right like somebody in coaching I could call and ask a question. They're saying all year has been all gas, no breaks. They need some breaks. They need to stop the car, pull over, go to a rest area, wash off and figure out what they are because that's not meeting Ohio State. Ten penalties, three and outs. Now they are a splash team, and in fourth quarter to tie it up, and then in overtime a couple overtime passes like that's what they are. That's what they are. But in between these amazing plays by these amazing Texas Longhorm athletes, you can't have ten penalties, you can't miss assignments. I mean, it looked like Arizona State really could not wait to play another game. They were so intent, playing with such intention and urgency, And sometimes I just feel like my entire life this has been Texas football. I feel like they should be six time national champs, not that one Vince Young team and disappointment. I can't explain it. I thought Arizona State outplayed them. I thought they got hosed on a call. Yes, I do think Texas matches up with Ohio State better more NFL bodies. They're only a six point underdog this morning. I'll take Ohio State. But I guess they were resilient. That's what Sarks said.

After the one thing that I know about our group is when our backs are against the wall and when our best is needed, our best shows up time and time again. And the resiliency that these guys showed today was something as a coach makes you really proud.

After the one thing that I know about our group is when our backs are against the wall and when our best is needed, our best shows up time and time again. And the resiliency that these guys showed today was something as a coach makes you really proud.

Yeah, well they didn't show up twice against Georgia and that targeting call gets called, which it should have been, and they don't beat Arizona State, so they're kind of an all or nothing team, right, Like it's the report card is a plus and d there's a and I'm never quite sure what I'm getting with Texas football. I've said this before. I love Texas football. As a kid, I had never gone to Texas. It was the uniforms, the hook them, the horns, the rust orange. I don't know what it was. They just had good players and they were in big games. And it was at a time when Oklahoma, Nebraska, and Texas were huge in Nebraska and Oklahoma board me and I was fascinated with Texas. I've always been pulling for him. When they beat USC you know, my team for the national Championship, I was like, well, if somebody had to beat this, it'd be okay if it's Texas. But I watched that game and I'm like, all gas, no breaks, pump the brakes, pull over, rest area, figure it out, wash off. I can't ever get my arms around them. I know when they come out of the tunnel or in the hotel lobby. They have looked like the best team in college football ten times in the last twenty years. But man, I can't get my arms around them. I feel like even Oregon in the loss, I know what they are. Penn State, I've figured out, Notre Dame. I like them tonight. I kind of know what they are and what they're not. Ohio State, get out of their way. Texas, they should change their helmet to a big question mark because I don't know what I'm getting first half to second, first series to third. But congratulations on the win and again Dillingham that program, I'll tell you what they want. A lot of fans because Dillingham grew up around Arizona State, like he always wanted to be the coach of Arizona State. So he's not going to be a guy that just jumps to another their job, and Arizona State, if you live out west, has always been kind of one of those sleeping giants when you're like, when's Arizona State gonna roll the table? I mean they got as much money as Oregon, right, I mean they don't have a phill night, but I don't know. I watched Arizona State and I'm like, boy, that was their turnout, their team, their effort, that running back, easy team to like. So congrats and Tempe to all those fans. You got yourself a rock start head coach Jay Mackett. Was a fun day. There's a lot of stuff going on. There's a really interesting, interesting story out there, Adam Schefter put out. And you know how sometimes you and I, you know, we sit and watch try to read the tea leaves. We kind of watch sports as it develops. And I've always said on this show, when you do a three hour show like ours, you know, we can do journalism lifting, but mostly you know where we have to have an opinion on a story if it breaks without having it fully connected. And so I there's something that happened this year in the NFL with what we perceive as a great coach, Kevin O'Connell. And when they made the move, I thought it was a little curious, but it wasn't a big enough story to spend a lot of time on it. It is starting to make sense why they brought Daniel Jones to the Vikings. Oh okay, it's starting to make a little sound. Generally, you don't bring another team's quarterback in who got pushed out the door on your roster when you have your two quarterbacks.

Yeah, well they didn't show up twice against Georgia and that targeting call gets called, which it should have been, and they don't beat Arizona State, so they're kind of an all or nothing team, right, Like it's the report card is a plus and d there's a and I'm never quite sure what I'm getting with Texas football. I've said this before. I love Texas football. As a kid, I had never gone to Texas. It was the uniforms, the hook them, the horns, the rust orange. I don't know what it was. They just had good players and they were in big games. And it was at a time when Oklahoma, Nebraska, and Texas were huge in Nebraska and Oklahoma board me and I was fascinated with Texas. I've always been pulling for him. When they beat USC you know, my team for the national Championship, I was like, well, if somebody had to beat this, it'd be okay if it's Texas. But I watched that game and I'm like, all gas, no breaks, pump the brakes, pull over, rest area, figure it out, wash off. I can't ever get my arms around them. I know when they come out of the tunnel or in the hotel lobby. They have looked like the best team in college football ten times in the last twenty years. But man, I can't get my arms around them. I feel like even Oregon in the loss, I know what they are. Penn State, I've figured out, Notre Dame. I like them tonight. I kind of know what they are and what they're not. Ohio State, get out of their way. Texas, they should change their helmet to a big question mark because I don't know what I'm getting first half to second, first series to third. But congratulations on the win and again Dillingham that program, I'll tell you what they want. A lot of fans because Dillingham grew up around Arizona State, like he always wanted to be the coach of Arizona State. So he's not going to be a guy that just jumps to another their job, and Arizona State, if you live out west, has always been kind of one of those sleeping giants when you're like, when's Arizona State gonna roll the table? I mean they got as much money as Oregon, right, I mean they don't have a phill night, but I don't know. I watched Arizona State and I'm like, boy, that was their turnout, their team, their effort, that running back, easy team to like. So congrats and Tempe to all those fans. You got yourself a rock start head coach Jay Mackett. Was a fun day. There's a lot of stuff going on. There's a really interesting, interesting story out there, Adam Schefter put out. And you know how sometimes you and I, you know, we sit and watch try to read the tea leaves. We kind of watch sports as it develops. And I've always said on this show, when you do a three hour show like ours, you know, we can do journalism lifting, but mostly you know where we have to have an opinion on a story if it breaks without having it fully connected. And so I there's something that happened this year in the NFL with what we perceive as a great coach, Kevin O'Connell. And when they made the move, I thought it was a little curious, but it wasn't a big enough story to spend a lot of time on it. It is starting to make sense why they brought Daniel Jones to the Vikings. Oh okay, it's starting to make a little sound. Generally, you don't bring another team's quarterback in who got pushed out the door on your roster when you have your two quarterbacks.

Well, I got to say I don't know what you're talking about with Schefter, because one of my New Year's resolutions less social media. That's very difficult. But I have no idea what Chefter said, So I'm fascinated by this topic.

Well, I got to say I don't know what you're talking about with Schefter, because one of my New Year's resolutions less social media. That's very difficult. But I have no idea what Chefter said, So I'm fascinated by this topic.

You don't have to give up a feeling. I know where you're going. Okay, you don't have to give up all social media.

You don't have to give up a feeling. I know where you're going. Okay, you don't have to give up all social media.

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You're now entering the No Bull Zone sponsored by Credible Great Rates, None of the bull. Okay, So this is a real story, people, I trust. Adam Schefter said, teams are going to call the Vikings on JJ McCarthy. Of course they are. He's talented, and it's a terrible quarterback draft and seven teams need a quarterback. Diana Russini reports the Vikings want Donald back. Of course they do. He's got an argument to be MVP. And Donald doesn't even turn twenty eight until down the road. So it's like Darnald's in his prime for five years. So JJ McCarthy, Michigan quarterback, was the one quarterback I wasn't sold on in this draft. I mean he was fifty third in pass attempts his last year in college in the same number of games, Michael Penix was number one. I thought Penis threw a better ball. Bow Knicks was more experienced than more athletic. I thought Caleb and Jayden Daniels were better, and I thought Drake May had a higher ceiling. He could work. He was kind of good in the preseason. What does that mean? Dak looked great in the preseason. Dak's talented. Dak as a starter, but as Dak ever had a year that looks like Donald not to me. And so this is something to remember. Why did the Minnesota Vikings in November bringing Daniel Jones? Why because maybe they were ahead of us. The Vikings don't have a second round pick, a third round pick, or a fourth round pick. It's a terrible quarterback class Seattle. You think they're going to go back with Geno Smith again. They can get JJ McCarthy for a second and a fourth, maybe a second, fourth and fifth. Vikings get their draft picks. They're franchise tagging at minimum. Sam Donald. Kevin O'Connell liked Sam Donald before he was a Viking. Kyle Shanahan liked Donald before he was a Niner. Now he's putting up an MVP season. They've made a decision. We like Donald. We're not letting them go. Why did they bring in Daniel Jones because they wanted to get him into the system ready to play for a place playoff game. And my take, they'll rehab Daniel Jones like they rehabbed Sam Donald. And I think JJ McCarthy is good enough in a week quarterback draft class to fetch you multiple picks, which if you're in the NFC North stacked, Green Bay roster stack, Detroit roster, Chicago's gonna get their act together, you need draft picks. If you're paying Sam Donald's big boy money, you need draft picks. Vikings don't have any. They got a first and a couple of fifts. They don't have any draft picks. Seattle's drafting eighteenth. They need a quarterback because they get a Super Bowl roster. I totally get Seattle saying we're gonna have to start paying some of these stars we have. Let's roll up with JJ McCarthy. If I ran Seattle, John Snyder, I make the deal tomorrow. I'd make the deal tomorrow, reset the clock. JJ McCarthy. Don't have to pay him for four years with this Seattle talented roster. Worried about a year, You're gonna have to start paying people big boy money. Vikings don't have any picks, so this stuff is already to add up. I got nothing against JJ McCarthy, but you can't let Sam Donald walk out of the room. And Daniel Jones as a backup, a big, strong, athletic backup, would be arguably the best backup quarterback in the league. And he's already shown. Remember, McCarthy's already had two surgeries, He's never played an NFL game. Donald's an MVP level player, and Daniel Jones won a playoff game against those Vikings. So my take is, JJ McCarthy, I think deep down they are strongly considering moving him. That is my take. I don't think it's a wild take. The Vikings cannot pay Donald a fortune and have no draft picks. You cannot in a division with the stacked Lions and stack Packers, go yeah, we got a first round picking some fives. Do that roster's already arguably the third or fourth best roster in that division. You need draft picks. You need a second, a third, and a fourth. And I think JJ McCarthy in a week draft. I think Minnesota has leverage. They don't have to get rid of him. And it's not like they don't like it. You could like people and trade them. But the dilemma is a great dilemma to have. We had no idea. Sam Donald was the third best quarterback in the league. That's a great It's like when people can played about taxes. It's one of the better problems to have. You're paying a lot of taxes, you're making a lot of money. I don't like paying them either, but it's one of the better problems. Sam Darnald created a problem. He is way better than any of us thought. And I'm a Donald fan.

You're now entering the No Bull Zone sponsored by Credible Great Rates, None of the bull. Okay, So this is a real story, people, I trust. Adam Schefter said, teams are going to call the Vikings on JJ McCarthy. Of course they are. He's talented, and it's a terrible quarterback draft and seven teams need a quarterback. Diana Russini reports the Vikings want Donald back. Of course they do. He's got an argument to be MVP. And Donald doesn't even turn twenty eight until down the road. So it's like Darnald's in his prime for five years. So JJ McCarthy, Michigan quarterback, was the one quarterback I wasn't sold on in this draft. I mean he was fifty third in pass attempts his last year in college in the same number of games, Michael Penix was number one. I thought Penis threw a better ball. Bow Knicks was more experienced than more athletic. I thought Caleb and Jayden Daniels were better, and I thought Drake May had a higher ceiling. He could work. He was kind of good in the preseason. What does that mean? Dak looked great in the preseason. Dak's talented. Dak as a starter, but as Dak ever had a year that looks like Donald not to me. And so this is something to remember. Why did the Minnesota Vikings in November bringing Daniel Jones? Why because maybe they were ahead of us. The Vikings don't have a second round pick, a third round pick, or a fourth round pick. It's a terrible quarterback class Seattle. You think they're going to go back with Geno Smith again. They can get JJ McCarthy for a second and a fourth, maybe a second, fourth and fifth. Vikings get their draft picks. They're franchise tagging at minimum. Sam Donald. Kevin O'Connell liked Sam Donald before he was a Viking. Kyle Shanahan liked Donald before he was a Niner. Now he's putting up an MVP season. They've made a decision. We like Donald. We're not letting them go. Why did they bring in Daniel Jones because they wanted to get him into the system ready to play for a place playoff game. And my take, they'll rehab Daniel Jones like they rehabbed Sam Donald. And I think JJ McCarthy is good enough in a week quarterback draft class to fetch you multiple picks, which if you're in the NFC North stacked, Green Bay roster stack, Detroit roster, Chicago's gonna get their act together, you need draft picks. If you're paying Sam Donald's big boy money, you need draft picks. Vikings don't have any. They got a first and a couple of fifts. They don't have any draft picks. Seattle's drafting eighteenth. They need a quarterback because they get a Super Bowl roster. I totally get Seattle saying we're gonna have to start paying some of these stars we have. Let's roll up with JJ McCarthy. If I ran Seattle, John Snyder, I make the deal tomorrow. I'd make the deal tomorrow, reset the clock. JJ McCarthy. Don't have to pay him for four years with this Seattle talented roster. Worried about a year, You're gonna have to start paying people big boy money. Vikings don't have any picks, so this stuff is already to add up. I got nothing against JJ McCarthy, but you can't let Sam Donald walk out of the room. And Daniel Jones as a backup, a big, strong, athletic backup, would be arguably the best backup quarterback in the league. And he's already shown. Remember, McCarthy's already had two surgeries, He's never played an NFL game. Donald's an MVP level player, and Daniel Jones won a playoff game against those Vikings. So my take is, JJ McCarthy, I think deep down they are strongly considering moving him. That is my take. I don't think it's a wild take. The Vikings cannot pay Donald a fortune and have no draft picks. You cannot in a division with the stacked Lions and stack Packers, go yeah, we got a first round picking some fives. Do that roster's already arguably the third or fourth best roster in that division. You need draft picks. You need a second, a third, and a fourth. And I think JJ McCarthy in a week draft. I think Minnesota has leverage. They don't have to get rid of him. And it's not like they don't like it. You could like people and trade them. But the dilemma is a great dilemma to have. We had no idea. Sam Donald was the third best quarterback in the league. That's a great It's like when people can played about taxes. It's one of the better problems to have. You're paying a lot of taxes, you're making a lot of money. I don't like paying them either, but it's one of the better problems. Sam Darnald created a problem. He is way better than any of us thought. And I'm a Donald fan.

J Mack with a news no, no, no, this is the herd line news.

J Mack with a news no, no, no, this is the herd line news.

Not crazy.

Not crazy.

What's that?

What's that?

That's not crazy.

That's not crazy.

I'm just not going to address your unless you.

I'm just not going to address your unless you.

Want me to. I'm just saying I think it's absolutely under consideration.

Want me to. I'm just saying I think it's absolutely under consideration.

What's the market for a guy coming off to n or whatever.

What's the market for a guy coming off to n or whatever.

Well, it was a first round pick and it's a terrible draft, and so my take is the market is at least a second and the four. Again, if it was a stacked quarterback draft, it'd be different. Also, in Minnesota has leverage, can keep him. Good luck Seattle, Congratulations, we're better than you. Now you go back and run back Geno Smith. Again, Seattle has a really good roster and can't get the quarterback.

Well, it was a first round pick and it's a terrible draft, and so my take is the market is at least a second and the four. Again, if it was a stacked quarterback draft, it'd be different. Also, in Minnesota has leverage, can keep him. Good luck Seattle, Congratulations, we're better than you. Now you go back and run back Geno Smith. Again, Seattle has a really good roster and can't get the quarterback.

Right.

Right.

Are they gonna sit there? They're not. I mean they could have moved up last year to get Panicks. They're not gonna move up for Shade or Sander.

Are they gonna sit there? They're not. I mean they could have moved up last year to get Panicks. They're not gonna move up for Shade or Sander.

What do you think Seattle thought of Jalen Milroe in the Bull game? Gota did you see the highlights? And should I say low lights?

What do you think Seattle thought of Jalen Milroe in the Bull game? Gota did you see the highlights? And should I say low lights?

You could argue there's an argument that JJ McCarthy in this draft, if he was available, would he be the second third player taken?

You could argue there's an argument that JJ McCarthy in this draft, if he was available, would he be the second third player taken?

That's a good one.

That's a good one.

This is a last year great. Next year is supposed to be great. With Drew Aller being the Penn State guy being the number one pen He looked pretty.

This is a last year great. Next year is supposed to be great. With Drew Aller being the Penn State guy being the number one pen He looked pretty.

Good against Boys. Now it's against Boise.

Good against Boys. Now it's against Boise.

He had a big, strong dude with a big arm. Yeah that arm. That was good.

He had a big, strong dude with a big arm. Yeah that arm. That was good.

All right, let's get started with Sunday night football. The big one to cap Week eighteen. Vikings Lions at Stake No. Big deal, just the number one seed in the NFC You Buy Division title. Dan Campbell made an interesting comment about the matchup, colling.

All right, let's get started with Sunday night football. The big one to cap Week eighteen. Vikings Lions at Stake No. Big deal, just the number one seed in the NFC You Buy Division title. Dan Campbell made an interesting comment about the matchup, colling.

We're all excited. This is exciting, but it's not like it's not like it's the playoffs. You know, we all know what the prize is and that's the super Bowl.

We're all excited. This is exciting, but it's not like it's not like it's the playoffs. You know, we all know what the prize is and that's the super Bowl.

You know.

You know.

You just you try to set yourself up the best you can and that's why you put those goals out there.

You just you try to set yourself up the best you can and that's why you put those goals out there.

It's not like it's the playoffs. This is a playoff game. If you win Viki's Alliance number one seed, by all that traffics. If you lose, you go on the road in the first round and face Tampa. Tampa beat Detroit in Detroit earlier this year.

It's not like it's the playoffs. This is a playoff game. If you win Viki's Alliance number one seed, by all that traffics. If you lose, you go on the road in the first round and face Tampa. Tampa beat Detroit in Detroit earlier this year.

But I will say the one thing offensively that travels is a dominant O line run game. With all the new technology and the helmets and the way teams travel, now the road's about a point and a point and a half, it's not three and a half to four, So you're about a point deficit going on the road. You lost, so you have that as motivation and that offensive line. Two things travel in the NFL. A great defense, a dominant run game, passing games, don't travel. Well, it's based on weather. Where do you play? Is it windy? But that dominant Detroit run o line and now Montgomery's coming back.

But I will say the one thing offensively that travels is a dominant O line run game. With all the new technology and the helmets and the way teams travel, now the road's about a point and a point and a half, it's not three and a half to four, So you're about a point deficit going on the road. You lost, so you have that as motivation and that offensive line. Two things travel in the NFL. A great defense, a dominant run game, passing games, don't travel. Well, it's based on weather. Where do you play? Is it windy? But that dominant Detroit run o line and now Montgomery's coming back.

Well maybe coming then Nay. I love your optimism.

Well maybe coming then Nay. I love your optimism.

Well, I mean that's what the announcer said, and that's what the internet's saying. You know, it's always right.

Well, I mean that's what the announcer said, and that's what the internet's saying. You know, it's always right.

Lions minus two and a half short week. I mean they played a you could say, a tough one in San Francisco across the country on Monday night. I don't think I'm a little surprised the Lions are favorite here Colin. I kind of like the Vikings of this game.

Lions minus two and a half short week. I mean they played a you could say, a tough one in San Francisco across the country on Monday night. I don't think I'm a little surprised the Lions are favorite here Colin. I kind of like the Vikings of this game.

What about you. I think the Lions have the better roster. I mean, I'm seriously I think they have a better roster, and I think they're getting slightly healthier every week. I mean they said Montgomery may plan this game. Listen, Minnesota is why don't you.

What about you. I think the Lions have the better roster. I mean, I'm seriously I think they have a better roster, and I think they're getting slightly healthier every week. I mean they said Montgomery may plan this game. Listen, Minnesota is why don't you.

Win this game? Give him an extra week, then use Montgomery in a couple of weeks, I saw guys coming back from a broken arm on defense.

Win this game? Give him an extra week, then use Montgomery in a couple of weeks, I saw guys coming back from a broken arm on defense.

They're getting they're getting healthier.

They're getting they're getting healthier.

I just that Vikings team right now, Brian Flores a defense.

I just that Vikings team right now, Brian Flores a defense.

Yeah, but gofspin in the league A while Brian Flores is upending a lot of inexperienced quarterbacks. Goffs been in this league a long time. He's going to be less vulnerable to a great defensive coordinator than a younger quarterback. It's hard to bet against Detroit. You watch them at San Francisco and just take that covering machine. Yet, I mean, they just that's what they do and they're creative too.

Yeah, but gofspin in the league A while Brian Flores is upending a lot of inexperienced quarterbacks. Goffs been in this league a long time. He's going to be less vulnerable to a great defensive coordinator than a younger quarterback. It's hard to bet against Detroit. You watch them at San Francisco and just take that covering machine. Yet, I mean, they just that's what they do and they're creative too.

Next up is this Cincinnati Bengals, still technically alive in the playoff race. They need a win Saturday and then some help of Broncos and Dolphins losses. So this is likely Cincinnati's final game with the core of Burrough, Chas and Higgins. With Higgins expected to hit free agency this offseason unless a long term deal is reached, Joe Burrow is putting pressure on the front office to sign t Higgins here he is.

Next up is this Cincinnati Bengals, still technically alive in the playoff race. They need a win Saturday and then some help of Broncos and Dolphins losses. So this is likely Cincinnati's final game with the core of Burrough, Chas and Higgins. With Higgins expected to hit free agency this offseason unless a long term deal is reached, Joe Burrow is putting pressure on the front office to sign t Higgins here he is.

Whatever a great player leaves, who you're you wish you could have found a way to keep on. Yeah, you don't want to make a living out of letting great players leave the building, And yeah, I think that's why you got to do everything you can to get those deals done early.

Whatever a great player leaves, who you're you wish you could have found a way to keep on. Yeah, you don't want to make a living out of letting great players leave the building, And yeah, I think that's why you got to do everything you can to get those deals done early.

Yep.

Yep.

Now, Joe Burrow has been grumpy on the sidelines. Is being actionable? Is not being passive aggressive? This is what I like about him. He's not. He's telling you right now, you probably can't make a living letting great players go. You're not paying for anybody else outside of Burrow. You can't pay for two receivers. I mean to me, Burrow is giving you the very clear signs of an unhappy and productive employee.

Now, Joe Burrow has been grumpy on the sidelines. Is being actionable? Is not being passive aggressive? This is what I like about him. He's not. He's telling you right now, you probably can't make a living letting great players go. You're not paying for anybody else outside of Burrow. You can't pay for two receivers. I mean to me, Burrow is giving you the very clear signs of an unhappy and productive employee.

I just worry. Do you become the Miami Dolphins if you keep.

I just worry. Do you become the Miami Dolphins if you keep.

Tea Burrow is about three levels above two of right.

Tea Burrow is about three levels above two of right.

But the point is that the Dolphins don't have a lot of other talent. There's the offensive line is crap, The defense is spotty, Like the Bengals have a lot of holes. Obviously T Higgins is erases a lot of those. But can you win a shootout every single week in this league because.

But the point is that the Dolphins don't have a lot of other talent. There's the offensive line is crap, The defense is spotty, Like the Bengals have a lot of holes. Obviously T Higgins is erases a lot of those. But can you win a shootout every single week in this league because.

You're gonna have to. They don't.

You're gonna have to. They don't.

They can't give them money to T Higgins and then buy a defense, can they.

They can't give them money to T Higgins and then buy a defense, can they.

It's a funny. Everybody in the Philadelphia Eagles got the bag, the entire roster. They made it work. The quarterback got it, Saque's gonna get it, the right tackle got it. AJ Brown got it. They're paying like eleven guys on that roster. They made a safety move last year, Kevin Bart, he got it. The only guys are not paying with the rookie corners. Everybody's getting paid in Philadelphia.

It's a funny. Everybody in the Philadelphia Eagles got the bag, the entire roster. They made it work. The quarterback got it, Saque's gonna get it, the right tackle got it. AJ Brown got it. They're paying like eleven guys on that roster. They made a safety move last year, Kevin Bart, he got it. The only guys are not paying with the rookie corners. Everybody's getting paid in Philadelphia.

They've nailed the draft as well.

They've nailed the draft as well.

Well, that's what you have to do. In Cincinnati, Bengal, you can pay t Higgins, you gotta go. You got to get four starters on defense in the draft, which, by the way, if you're a good GM you can. But Philadelphia is paying everybody. San Francisco for years was paying Kittle, Trent Williams, Bosa, Fred Warner, they were paying everybody. Oh they got a free safety in Hufunga. They were paying everybody else. They had to pay Christian McCaffrey. So it's like this idea that you can't pay two receivers. I would ideally like not want to. But they're paying Dj Moore and Keenan Allen in Chicago. I mean, now they're a bad team, but you can make it happen. And you know who.

Well, that's what you have to do. In Cincinnati, Bengal, you can pay t Higgins, you gotta go. You got to get four starters on defense in the draft, which, by the way, if you're a good GM you can. But Philadelphia is paying everybody. San Francisco for years was paying Kittle, Trent Williams, Bosa, Fred Warner, they were paying everybody. Oh they got a free safety in Hufunga. They were paying everybody else. They had to pay Christian McCaffrey. So it's like this idea that you can't pay two receivers. I would ideally like not want to. But they're paying Dj Moore and Keenan Allen in Chicago. I mean, now they're a bad team, but you can make it happen. And you know who.

They moved off Joe Mixon the running back and then filled his spot with Chase Brown. If you look at the numbers, Chase Brown's been good player, has not been a huge drop off.

They moved off Joe Mixon the running back and then filled his spot with Chase Brown. If you look at the numbers, Chase Brown's been good player, has not been a huge drop off.

No, he's a good.

No, he's a good.

Play, even an upgrade with his quickness out of the back. Theam Yeah.

Play, even an upgrade with his quickness out of the back. Theam Yeah.

So, and this is a great running back draft. You can there's two or three areas in this o line excellent tackle draft. Nail that, get another running back. It's a great running back draft. It's a pretty good corner draft. Get one of those. This idea that you can't get niners over the last decade in the Philadelphia Eagles. Now, look how many people they're paying. So don't tell me you can't pay two great proven players. You can do it, but you'll have to move some pieces, like like by paying Mahomes, Chris Jones and Travis Kelsey. Most people don't pay their tight end as much as Kansas City does. By doing that, you have to nail corners. And then they had to give one away Snead. The chief said, hey, we gotta let him go. But they drafted so well. They had McDuffie, so they had a number one corner. You see, he got to hit on draft picks, and that's tough. The draft is a bit of a crapshoot. Final story is the Chicago Bears. This is holy cow. This is explosive.

So, and this is a great running back draft. You can there's two or three areas in this o line excellent tackle draft. Nail that, get another running back. It's a great running back draft. It's a pretty good corner draft. Get one of those. This idea that you can't get niners over the last decade in the Philadelphia Eagles. Now, look how many people they're paying. So don't tell me you can't pay two great proven players. You can do it, but you'll have to move some pieces, like like by paying Mahomes, Chris Jones and Travis Kelsey. Most people don't pay their tight end as much as Kansas City does. By doing that, you have to nail corners. And then they had to give one away Snead. The chief said, hey, we gotta let him go. But they drafted so well. They had McDuffie, so they had a number one corner. You see, he got to hit on draft picks, and that's tough. The draft is a bit of a crapshoot. Final story is the Chicago Bears. This is holy cow. This is explosive.

Okay, so everybody knows that the Bears want Lions OC Ben Johnson and he's a top candidate. A recent report indicates although Johnson wants the job, he would likely push out GM Ryan Poles and wants to work with Commander's assistant GM Lance Newmark.

Okay, so everybody knows that the Bears want Lions OC Ben Johnson and he's a top candidate. A recent report indicates although Johnson wants the job, he would likely push out GM Ryan Poles and wants to work with Commander's assistant GM Lance Newmark.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Because of this, Polls allegedly is said to have reservations about Ben Johnson and has vikings DC Brian Flores is his top candidate.

Because of this, Polls allegedly is said to have reservations about Ben Johnson and has vikings DC Brian Flores is his top candidate.

Holy cow. So once again this is the Chicago Bears coaching search is getting very political. That that whole city's political, The politics is political, and the sports is political. So basically, Ryan Poles is like, hey, I want to take care of me, maybe not draft a punter last year with four draft picks, so to me, I like Brian Flores. If if you end up with Brian Flora, is it's not the worst higher. I think he's unbelievable.

Holy cow. So once again this is the Chicago Bears coaching search is getting very political. That that whole city's political, The politics is political, and the sports is political. So basically, Ryan Poles is like, hey, I want to take care of me, maybe not draft a punter last year with four draft picks, so to me, I like Brian Flores. If if you end up with Brian Flora, is it's not the worst higher. I think he's unbelievable.

I mean, we call the defensive coordinator as I'm a head coach in Miami, I.

I mean, we call the defensive coordinator as I'm a head coach in Miami, I.

Will defend him. I will say I will defend Brian Flores in Miami. Absolutely. So he goes to Miami. They're a mess. First eight games. Remember like Baltimore beat him by fifty. By week eight, they had arguably a top three defense and a top two special teams unit in eight weeks. I mean he was a life preserve.

Will defend him. I will say I will defend Brian Flores in Miami. Absolutely. So he goes to Miami. They're a mess. First eight games. Remember like Baltimore beat him by fifty. By week eight, they had arguably a top three defense and a top two special teams unit in eight weeks. I mean he was a life preserve.

What about this?

What about this?

Okay, he didn't like Tua? Well, would you rather not or pay to it?

Okay, he didn't like Tua? Well, would you rather not or pay to it?

Today?

Today?

By the way, Mike McDaniel heaps praise on Tua, haven't we now had a defined realization of what Tua is. Ooh, it's a little chili loss.

By the way, Mike McDaniel heaps praise on Tua, haven't we now had a defined realization of what Tua is. Ooh, it's a little chili loss.

Wait wait, wait, you think you think your guy, Caleb Williams is gonna be excited about head coach?

Wait wait, wait, you think you think your guy, Caleb Williams is gonna be excited about head coach?

I think and the last quarterback he had a major First, this is a great argument if you think Caleb and Tua are the same athletes.

I think and the last quarterback he had a major First, this is a great argument if you think Caleb and Tua are the same athletes.

No.

No.

Secondly, everybody knows one of the reasons this job is attractive is Caleb Williams. That's one of the reasons. You had a talented guy that you gotta fix. He's bottomed out, you gotta fix. You got four years of not paying him, So Caleb's not Tua. Tua was always like ooh, concussions, injuries and Brian Flores say what you want has acknowledged he was too rough on Tua. Yes, but he may not have been wrong on everything.

Secondly, everybody knows one of the reasons this job is attractive is Caleb Williams. That's one of the reasons. You had a talented guy that you gotta fix. He's bottomed out, you gotta fix. You got four years of not paying him, So Caleb's not Tua. Tua was always like ooh, concussions, injuries and Brian Flores say what you want has acknowledged he was too rough on Tua. Yes, but he may not have been wrong on everything.

Yeah, but let's not go overward. Let me back up to this Ben Johnson thing, Colin, where do you stand on Ben Johnson wanting to take a job and also pick his GMS.

Yeah, but let's not go overward. Let me back up to this Ben Johnson thing, Colin, where do you stand on Ben Johnson wanting to take a job and also pick his GMS.

I totally get it. I totally get it.

I totally get it. I totally get it.

Interesting.

Interesting.

I mean, I would not walk into a political hornet's nest at a network if I didn't have a couple of my guys. You always have to have your guys, you always. If you're the head coach, you gotta have a GM you like.

I mean, I would not walk into a political hornet's nest at a network if I didn't have a couple of my guys. You always have to have your guys, you always. If you're the head coach, you gotta have a GM you like.

But here's the problem. He's never been a head coach, he's never won anything, and he's picking his GM well.

But here's the problem. He's never been a head coach, he's never won anything, and he's picking his GM well.

But he has leverage. He's this everybody loves him in Chicago's desperate, so he's got leverage too. I mean, you're watching these Detroit games. He flexes every time he can. Oh, here's a quadruple reverse backflip. It's like a gymnastics So he's flexing on these We've been saying this, Detroit keeps flexing on these TV games. He no doubt about it. Easy to say, hello, does your coordinator do this? Yes?

But he has leverage. He's this everybody loves him in Chicago's desperate, so he's got leverage too. I mean, you're watching these Detroit games. He flexes every time he can. Oh, here's a quadruple reverse backflip. It's like a gymnastics So he's flexing on these We've been saying this, Detroit keeps flexing on these TV games. He no doubt about it. Easy to say, hello, does your coordinator do this? Yes?

I do.

I do.

I'm at the point where I'm watching Boise State against Penn State and I'm like you guys have been watching Ben Johnson. Where's the creativity? I don't see anything from Boise. Last note on Ben Johnson, Collin, you had talked about Chicago as the best job like two weeks.

I'm at the point where I'm watching Boise State against Penn State and I'm like you guys have been watching Ben Johnson. Where's the creativity? I don't see anything from Boise. Last note on Ben Johnson, Collin, you had talked about Chicago as the best job like two weeks.

Ago, and I think we've I think it's a bad year for jobs. It's the best job?

Ago, and I think we've I think it's a bad year for jobs. It's the best job?

Well is it sliding down?

Well is it sliding down?

Pretty quickly?

Pretty quickly?

The political nonsense going. I don't want to work with polls. Then there's the Kevin Warren aspect. Patriots are airs, which is a better job should Patriots become open?

The political nonsense going. I don't want to work with polls. Then there's the Kevin Warren aspect. Patriots are airs, which is a better job should Patriots become open?

That Now, I will say this, if the Patriots was open, and I don't think it's going to be, and I'm not trying to get people fired. I think the Patriots is the better job if open. Because here's one of the reasons Jets in Miami are kind of dysfunctional. The NFC North, Packers, Lions, Viking. Look at the coaching. Just look at the coaching in that division. I know, thanks, So I I if I could avoid going and coaching in the NFC North, and I could coach in a division that has Buffalo but some dysfunction, and I get Drake May and I've got cap space and they've bottomed out. That's a very attractive job if I can, if I can get some certainty on.

That Now, I will say this, if the Patriots was open, and I don't think it's going to be, and I'm not trying to get people fired. I think the Patriots is the better job if open. Because here's one of the reasons Jets in Miami are kind of dysfunctional. The NFC North, Packers, Lions, Viking. Look at the coaching. Just look at the coaching in that division. I know, thanks, So I I if I could avoid going and coaching in the NFC North, and I could coach in a division that has Buffalo but some dysfunction, and I get Drake May and I've got cap space and they've bottomed out. That's a very attractive job if I can, if I can get some certainty on.

My staff that NFC North is just so stacked. Oh it's it's not going word. It's not like these teams are older at the end of a run. Well, it's like in college football. It's like in college football, say, oh, I got a job in the SEC. Well, you're not beating Georgia and you generally don't beat Alabama. Like there's a burden coaching in the SEC. The intensity and how good the schedule is. Jmack with the news, Well that's the.

My staff that NFC North is just so stacked. Oh it's it's not going word. It's not like these teams are older at the end of a run. Well, it's like in college football. It's like in college football, say, oh, I got a job in the SEC. Well, you're not beating Georgia and you generally don't beat Alabama. Like there's a burden coaching in the SEC. The intensity and how good the schedule is. Jmack with the news, Well that's the.

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Yeah. What's funny is that sometimes what hasn't happened yet is a great topic. I find the Bears fascinating and these coaching openings. A lot of times there's coaching openings and you're like, eah, these are bad. But if I get Kayleb Williams and Drake may and those are potentially two of the openings. Now, I've said before, I don't know if I'm running Jerwd Mayo out Patriot fans. Boston media is just anti Jerrod Mayo. They got their quarterback. I mean Mayo was highly touted. Belichick loved him. He's a smart defensive guy. I think it's really hard to bail on a guy after a year. There's nothing there in the roster in New England. There's just nothing there. And then Belichick on the way out, let Jacoby Myers go to the Raiders. What are you doing? He's your best receiver easily. What are you doing? So it's feel like sabotage. What are you doing? So? I don't know. I look at the current draft order right now in the NFL, and you guys think I'm crazy. The JJ McCarthy thing. Diana Russini is reporting Minnesota's gonna sign the Arnold they like him, Schefter saying teams are gonna call about JJ McCarthy. Stuff gets out when teams want it out. You know that we've been talking about that for years. Sometimes it's not the story, it's why is the story out? Two legitimate NFL reporters vikings like Darnold, teams will call for McCarthy. I'm just throwing it out. I think you'd have to be naive not to think that Daniel Jones move wasn't a little curious, just a little, just a little all right, J Mack thoughts on Oricon, Saquon Barkley, Greg Cosell, Top of the Hour, can't wait for him.

Yeah. What's funny is that sometimes what hasn't happened yet is a great topic. I find the Bears fascinating and these coaching openings. A lot of times there's coaching openings and you're like, eah, these are bad. But if I get Kayleb Williams and Drake may and those are potentially two of the openings. Now, I've said before, I don't know if I'm running Jerwd Mayo out Patriot fans. Boston media is just anti Jerrod Mayo. They got their quarterback. I mean Mayo was highly touted. Belichick loved him. He's a smart defensive guy. I think it's really hard to bail on a guy after a year. There's nothing there in the roster in New England. There's just nothing there. And then Belichick on the way out, let Jacoby Myers go to the Raiders. What are you doing? He's your best receiver easily. What are you doing? So it's feel like sabotage. What are you doing? So? I don't know. I look at the current draft order right now in the NFL, and you guys think I'm crazy. The JJ McCarthy thing. Diana Russini is reporting Minnesota's gonna sign the Arnold they like him, Schefter saying teams are gonna call about JJ McCarthy. Stuff gets out when teams want it out. You know that we've been talking about that for years. Sometimes it's not the story, it's why is the story out? Two legitimate NFL reporters vikings like Darnold, teams will call for McCarthy. I'm just throwing it out. I think you'd have to be naive not to think that Daniel Jones move wasn't a little curious, just a little, just a little all right, J Mack thoughts on Oricon, Saquon Barkley, Greg Cosell, Top of the Hour, can't wait for him.

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So listen, I feel bad for the Ducks who fell behind thirty four to eight. Ohio State was better. It's the first year of the college football Playoff. Take a deep breath. The reason we were allowed to have it is because of concessions and bureaucrats and you know, a thirteen member committee who I don't trust making picks. So my complaint, my one complaint was Oregon got hosed that the only undefeated team in college football, and their reward no home games in facing Ohio State. First, Texas did not win their conference and lost twice to the same team, and they got a home game, and so did Penn State, and so did Ohio State, and Oregon beat both and Oregon didn't get a home game, and Boise State got a buy Who are we kidding you? Watch Boise State. They have a really good running back. That's about it. So listen, I'm not going to overreact to Oregon getting hosed, but clearly like anything else. Like any business, the first year you make tweaks, I don't care if you're talking about Amazon and Jeff Bezos or Elon Musk and Tesla. There are tweaks. So the first tweak is no non power for conference team ever gets a bye, ever, or ever gets a home game. I don't care that you beat people seventy nothing in front of thirty two thousand people. Boise State has a right to be invited to the party if they go undefeated. You're not getting VIP treatment, period. And the pandering college football media always tells you what a great story they are. Watch the games. Okay, they don't have the athletes. I mean that thing went sideways fast, and I think Boise State has a right to get in or any team like a UNLV. You're not getting home games and you're not getting special treatment. You're invited to the party. You don't get behind the velvet rope. The second thing I would do is recede after the first round, like the NFL does. If you're Oregon and you have the best season, you get an easier matchup than Penn State, who got SMU and Boise State. I mean Texas did lost twice. Texas didn't win their conference. They lost to the same team twice, once with a backup quarterback, and their road was a home game the sixteenth ranked team and the twelfth ranked team. Oregon's reward was, Hey, here's a Ohio State in a bad mood at a stadium. By the way, Ohio State's program is incredibly familiar with because they do a lot of recruiting here and they play in the Rose Bowl often. So here was Dan Lanning showing class after the loss.

So listen, I feel bad for the Ducks who fell behind thirty four to eight. Ohio State was better. It's the first year of the college football Playoff. Take a deep breath. The reason we were allowed to have it is because of concessions and bureaucrats and you know, a thirteen member committee who I don't trust making picks. So my complaint, my one complaint was Oregon got hosed that the only undefeated team in college football, and their reward no home games in facing Ohio State. First, Texas did not win their conference and lost twice to the same team, and they got a home game, and so did Penn State, and so did Ohio State, and Oregon beat both and Oregon didn't get a home game, and Boise State got a buy Who are we kidding you? Watch Boise State. They have a really good running back. That's about it. So listen, I'm not going to overreact to Oregon getting hosed, but clearly like anything else. Like any business, the first year you make tweaks, I don't care if you're talking about Amazon and Jeff Bezos or Elon Musk and Tesla. There are tweaks. So the first tweak is no non power for conference team ever gets a bye, ever, or ever gets a home game. I don't care that you beat people seventy nothing in front of thirty two thousand people. Boise State has a right to be invited to the party if they go undefeated. You're not getting VIP treatment, period. And the pandering college football media always tells you what a great story they are. Watch the games. Okay, they don't have the athletes. I mean that thing went sideways fast, and I think Boise State has a right to get in or any team like a UNLV. You're not getting home games and you're not getting special treatment. You're invited to the party. You don't get behind the velvet rope. The second thing I would do is recede after the first round, like the NFL does. If you're Oregon and you have the best season, you get an easier matchup than Penn State, who got SMU and Boise State. I mean Texas did lost twice. Texas didn't win their conference. They lost to the same team twice, once with a backup quarterback, and their road was a home game the sixteenth ranked team and the twelfth ranked team. Oregon's reward was, Hey, here's a Ohio State in a bad mood at a stadium. By the way, Ohio State's program is incredibly familiar with because they do a lot of recruiting here and they play in the Rose Bowl often. So here was Dan Lanning showing class after the loss.

We had an opportunity.

We had an opportunity.

We didn't take advantage of our opportunity. I'm not going to make excuses for our opportunity, right, and ultimately you're going to be great teams to be in position at the end of the year, and we.

We didn't take advantage of our opportunity. I'm not going to make excuses for our opportunity, right, and ultimately you're going to be great teams to be in position at the end of the year, and we.

Didn't do that.

Didn't do that.

This is the road that we had to travel, and they did it better than.

This is the road that we had to travel, and they did it better than.

Us to night.

Us to night.

Okay. The other story I Major League Baseball has always been about its history and records. You never have to even win the playoff series. Mike Trout, he'll get into the Hall of Fame. Football is about winning. Football's always been about winning to everybody but maybe Aaron Rodgers, who said the last two years in New York have been the best of his life. Mostly for players in football, it's about winning. So Sakwan Barkley, the head coach, says, and we're not going to play to break the single season all time rushing record. And I'm okay with it. First of all, he leads the NFL in touches, he's earned a day off. Second of all, he hasn't had a lot of winning seventh year in the NFL. This is only a second winning season. He's also struggled with injuries. Also, Jalen Hurts, the quarterback, is in concussion protocol. Also, the running backs are the last players in college or pro football that you're allowed to hit any time anywhere. You have to protect running backs, sometimes from themselves. It should be duly noted that they're resting. The Eagles are several offensive linemen, and the running back positions always been somewhat dependent on the O line. So let me ask you, you really think the Eagles should risk arguably their best football player playing with a history of injuries to win a meaningless game to get a personal record. That's NBA stuff, that's baseball stuff. That's not what football. It's not about that. And so I have no problem with this at all. I love Saquon, but sometimes we found this out when they had that CTE lawsuit. Sometimes you have to protect players from themselves players in football the code is you play hurt, you play if there's risk. Sometimes you have to say, bro, you're not gonna play. We're not putting in this spot. If we have to hit a bonus for this, we'd pay it for the bonus. This guy has been injured. He leads the NFL in touches on a team that's got many other offensive weapons. They still rely on him the quarterbacks in concussion Protocol. Here is Saquon on the decision to sit him.

Okay. The other story I Major League Baseball has always been about its history and records. You never have to even win the playoff series. Mike Trout, he'll get into the Hall of Fame. Football is about winning. Football's always been about winning to everybody but maybe Aaron Rodgers, who said the last two years in New York have been the best of his life. Mostly for players in football, it's about winning. So Sakwan Barkley, the head coach, says, and we're not going to play to break the single season all time rushing record. And I'm okay with it. First of all, he leads the NFL in touches, he's earned a day off. Second of all, he hasn't had a lot of winning seventh year in the NFL. This is only a second winning season. He's also struggled with injuries. Also, Jalen Hurts, the quarterback, is in concussion protocol. Also, the running backs are the last players in college or pro football that you're allowed to hit any time anywhere. You have to protect running backs, sometimes from themselves. It should be duly noted that they're resting. The Eagles are several offensive linemen, and the running back positions always been somewhat dependent on the O line. So let me ask you, you really think the Eagles should risk arguably their best football player playing with a history of injuries to win a meaningless game to get a personal record. That's NBA stuff, that's baseball stuff. That's not what football. It's not about that. And so I have no problem with this at all. I love Saquon, but sometimes we found this out when they had that CTE lawsuit. Sometimes you have to protect players from themselves players in football the code is you play hurt, you play if there's risk. Sometimes you have to say, bro, you're not gonna play. We're not putting in this spot. If we have to hit a bonus for this, we'd pay it for the bonus. This guy has been injured. He leads the NFL in touches on a team that's got many other offensive weapons. They still rely on him the quarterbacks in concussion Protocol. Here is Saquon on the decision to sit him.

I mean he asked me if I want to play, if I want to go for it, I said on Sunday, you know, I probably didn't care too much for it. When I slept on it, I was like, there's an opportunity to implant my you know, my name in football history may never get a non opportunity like that again. So I'm down. But at the end of day, I don't care for put in the team aver risk. He's the head cultural reason. He makes the decisions, and whatever decision he wanted to make, I love him. If you want me a player, I'm gonna go out there and make sure I get it. And if we don't, okay with that too.

I mean he asked me if I want to play, if I want to go for it, I said on Sunday, you know, I probably didn't care too much for it. When I slept on it, I was like, there's an opportunity to implant my you know, my name in football history may never get a non opportunity like that again. So I'm down. But at the end of day, I don't care for put in the team aver risk. He's the head cultural reason. He makes the decisions, and whatever decision he wanted to make, I love him. If you want me a player, I'm gonna go out there and make sure I get it. And if we don't, okay with that too.

Listen. One of the things I appreciate about the NFL is that players don't do load management. They actually do the opposite. They play hurt, they sacrifice themselves. That's one of the things I think is incredibly relatable about football is that the player doesn't lead. You know, the tail doesn't wag the dog. It's like you got a GM. He does personnel. You have a coach, he makes these decisions, and then you have players and even star players, you know, Patrick Mahomes, Andy Reid runs the show. I'm good with it. I mean, Belichick ran the show. Tom Brady did not in New England. And that's just part of the culture of football. And I also think increasingly the culture is with the running backs. The last player when he burst through a line, it's the last player. You can go low, you can go high. It's they're gonna let you hit him. You got to protect them. You have to protect them. And it's because I really believe this. This is a great running back draft in the NFL this year. It's gonna be a lot of running backs draft and fifteen running backs drafted. Is that running backs are having a little bit of a resurgence in the NFL. Everybody was lamenting about a year ago they'll never get paid, which was absolute nonsense. Guards have never been paid, tight ends have never been paid what they deserve. Safeties have never been paid. Running Backs are always going to get paid because a great running back is a quarterback's best friend, and this league usually has about a third of their quarterbacks are like young. They need running backs so or they're not great pocket passers who are running back adds a dimension to the offense. So I love Saquon I wouldn't play them. I think it's nonsense. It's not baseball. Don't worry about it. J Mac, you know it's kind of a It's funny the NFL extended to seventeen games, and what happens is you have very few games in the final week that matter. They're going to expand it to eighteen games in the next two years. And as I was watching college football, I'm thinking Penn State's gonna play seventeen games if they get to the Natty. And we have to be cognizant of this, sometimes coaches have to step in sit guys play him less huge backups. And I think this is a prime example of I'm gonna protect sa Kuan Barkley.