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May be listening. Thanks for making us part of your day. Jmac Denver did it. I thought they were on fumes. Jamal Murray was sick. Get him in that altitude. Let them play a little bit. They actually had a bit of a bench last night. We know that Okac's got all the depth. You now have taken the tax you're rooting against okc.

May be listening. Thanks for making us part of your day. Jmac Denver did it. I thought they were on fumes. Jamal Murray was sick. Get him in that altitude. Let them play a little bit. They actually had a bit of a bench last night. We know that Okac's got all the depth. You now have taken the tax you're rooting against okc.

Oh thousand percent.

Oh thousand percent.

Colin, give me Denver all day, But tonight the big one New York Knicks.

Colin, give me Denver all day, But tonight the big one New York Knicks.

Can close out the Celtics. I know what they're doing tonight for Friday night as time.

Can close out the Celtics. I know what they're doing tonight for Friday night as time.

Yes, so Denver wins at home, they force a game seven. And what these NBA playoffs have clearly illustrated the dominant regular season teams, a lot of them pretty, a lot of them three ball reliant. The Calves are out, the Celtics probably will be an okay season now in a game seven. We've always understood playoff basketball is more intense, but the NBA's willingness to let it be super physical has made the pretty teams pretty vulnerable. Celts Calves both could be out by the night and they lived on the three Oklahoma City's depth and blowouts in youth. They're going to a game seven. These playoffs have had some tush push to them. Denver's a great example, old, big, strong, tough, a lot like Minnesota who's already in the Western Conference Final, and Denver's ben. That's been the concern right like it's limited. But last night, once again Westbrook hit a couple of big buckets, and another Gonzaga guy stepped up when Yokich hit the bench. Julian Stroud was absolutely excellent hitting shots, again a Gonzaga guy. But it's never been more clear the gap between the NBA's regular season and postseason. It's wider than we thought, and we thought it was different, and a lot of this is Adam Silver just saying, listen, I'm getting complaints. I'm hearing complaints. It's two three ball reliant. How do you change it? Let them be physical, bang around the shooters, Scoring inside matters more. Minnesota is not relyant on a three. Pacers are not reliant on a three. The Knicks are not reliant on a three. Denver's not And so now now the Lakers and the Warriors, they have that veteran playoff experience, but they don't have the size, and that's their shortcoming. I think it's made for highly entertaining basketball. I thought Denver was done, but the former champions have a chin. And again I think I like Oklahoma City in Game seven, they're at home. I think they'll shoot the three ball better. But you're giving me Jokich, You're giving me Gordon Jamal Murray was great being sick. We have the potential for a number four seed facing a number three seed in the Eastern Conference final and a four seed facing a sixth seed in the Western Conference Final. And listen, I said during the regular season, I thought the game was too pretty.

Yes, so Denver wins at home, they force a game seven. And what these NBA playoffs have clearly illustrated the dominant regular season teams, a lot of them pretty, a lot of them three ball reliant. The Calves are out, the Celtics probably will be an okay season now in a game seven. We've always understood playoff basketball is more intense, but the NBA's willingness to let it be super physical has made the pretty teams pretty vulnerable. Celts Calves both could be out by the night and they lived on the three Oklahoma City's depth and blowouts in youth. They're going to a game seven. These playoffs have had some tush push to them. Denver's a great example, old, big, strong, tough, a lot like Minnesota who's already in the Western Conference Final, and Denver's ben. That's been the concern right like it's limited. But last night, once again Westbrook hit a couple of big buckets, and another Gonzaga guy stepped up when Yokich hit the bench. Julian Stroud was absolutely excellent hitting shots, again a Gonzaga guy. But it's never been more clear the gap between the NBA's regular season and postseason. It's wider than we thought, and we thought it was different, and a lot of this is Adam Silver just saying, listen, I'm getting complaints. I'm hearing complaints. It's two three ball reliant. How do you change it? Let them be physical, bang around the shooters, Scoring inside matters more. Minnesota is not relyant on a three. Pacers are not reliant on a three. The Knicks are not reliant on a three. Denver's not And so now now the Lakers and the Warriors, they have that veteran playoff experience, but they don't have the size, and that's their shortcoming. I think it's made for highly entertaining basketball. I thought Denver was done, but the former champions have a chin. And again I think I like Oklahoma City in Game seven, they're at home. I think they'll shoot the three ball better. But you're giving me Jokich, You're giving me Gordon Jamal Murray was great being sick. We have the potential for a number four seed facing a number three seed in the Eastern Conference final and a four seed facing a sixth seed in the Western Conference Final. And listen, I said during the regular season, I thought the game was too pretty.

There's too much scoring.

There's too much scoring.

I wanted more analytics, less analytics, less three ball shooting, and Adam Silver listened to me and a lot of you that were saying the same thing.

I wanted more analytics, less analytics, less three ball shooting, and Adam Silver listened to me and a lot of you that were saying the same thing.

Let's get physical.

Let's get physical.

It works, it's entertaining basketball, and it's benefited the Knicks and the Pacers and Minnesota and Denver. Last night, teams that don't necessarily rely on three ball shooting got Game seven. And here's the coach of the Nuggets, David Adelman.

It works, it's entertaining basketball, and it's benefited the Knicks and the Pacers and Minnesota and Denver. Last night, teams that don't necessarily rely on three ball shooting got Game seven. And here's the coach of the Nuggets, David Adelman.

The challenge of playing great teams is just being consistent mentally. And again I've said this year out the series, what they did this year is incredible. They've earned the home court on Sunday, and on the flip side, we've earned the right to go down there in the opportunity to try to beat them in a Game seven. So this is what it's all about. Team that's done it all year long. Group in there that hung a banner, you know, I would tune into this game.

The challenge of playing great teams is just being consistent mentally. And again I've said this year out the series, what they did this year is incredible. They've earned the home court on Sunday, and on the flip side, we've earned the right to go down there in the opportunity to try to beat them in a Game seven. So this is what it's all about. Team that's done it all year long. Group in there that hung a banner, you know, I would tune into this game.

So it's interesting. The Celtics, Calves and the Thunder during the regular season averaged one hundred and twenty a game. Those teams are now down to one fourteen. And those teams we're making sixteen to sixteen and a half three pointers a game. They're now down to fourteen. Well that's six points. And these are close games. So again, Minnesota, the Knicks, the Pacer are physical and long. All the teams with size that aren't reliant on the three are either winning or about to win. And I think it's better basketball. I just I've enjoyed the playoffs.

So it's interesting. The Celtics, Calves and the Thunder during the regular season averaged one hundred and twenty a game. Those teams are now down to one fourteen. And those teams we're making sixteen to sixteen and a half three pointers a game. They're now down to fourteen. Well that's six points. And these are close games. So again, Minnesota, the Knicks, the Pacer are physical and long. All the teams with size that aren't reliant on the three are either winning or about to win. And I think it's better basketball. I just I've enjoyed the playoffs.

I like it.

I like it.

I've said for years, give me a mid range jumper. I just don't want sixty two threes winning the NBA championship.

I've said for years, give me a mid range jumper. I just don't want sixty two threes winning the NBA championship.

So we saw baseball do this for years.

So we saw baseball do this for years.

They started tweaking and tweaking and tweaking, and it was harder to score runs, and stolen bases were going down. So baseball makes the base bigger, they get rid of the defensive shift. Well, what's happening right, there's more hits averages going up, there's more runs, there's more base runners, there's more stolen bases.

They started tweaking and tweaking and tweaking, and it was harder to score runs, and stolen bases were going down. So baseball makes the base bigger, they get rid of the defensive shift. Well, what's happening right, there's more hits averages going up, there's more runs, there's more base runners, there's more stolen bases.

The NFL tweaked their cats.

The NFL tweaked their cats.

So what we're seeing in real time here is the NBA, during a season of three point parades, saying, you know, we don't want to we don't want our playoffs to look like that. We want our playoffs to be about veterans. Star there's physicality, a little NFL toush push, and this is what you get. And I think it's been great. So yesterday a story broke yesterday. Oh wait, it broke a year ago, and I got crap for reporting it.

So what we're seeing in real time here is the NBA, during a season of three point parades, saying, you know, we don't want to we don't want our playoffs to look like that. We want our playoffs to be about veterans. Star there's physicality, a little NFL toush push, and this is what you get. And I think it's been great. So yesterday a story broke yesterday. Oh wait, it broke a year ago, and I got crap for reporting it.

Whatever.

Whatever.

Seth Wickersham, great reporter at ESPN, reports something we did a year ago, which is Caleb Williams dad wasn't in love with the idea of his son being a Chicago Bear based on you know, history and the truth. And Caleb Williams, you know, was considering his options but eventually just said, I'll be a Bear. So, and here's the thing, this story broke yesterday when we were on the air about midway through the show. All those concerns and all those Chicago Bears hurdles turned out to be true. So where you land, you know, this is seventy five percent of the game for a quarterback. Gold got Matt Stafford easily the best high school quarterback in the country, best college quarterback. Had to go thirteen years to really find Sean McVay. He was seventy four and ninety in Detroit, first couple of years in Los Angeles, Like, is he better than Aaron Rodgers? He's hoisting a trophy beating Joe Burrow in the biggest game of the year, go look at Jared Goff zero for seven with defensive minded Jeff Fisher. One year later, eleven and four with McVay and a passer rating in the hundreds. He looked like a bust Sam Darnold disaster with a defensive coach, and the Jets, well some Adam Gase and you know, some offense, some defense. But where you land matters. Disaster in New York, struggled in Carolina, magical in Minnesota. Baker Mayfield, It's Hugh Jackson, it's Freddie Kitchens, it's Greg Williams, it's it's Oh Then he finds McVeigh and he finds Liam Cohen. What do you know, Baker looks like a top twelve to thirteen quarterback in the NFL. He you know, he The bottom line in this stuff is, if you start looking at your Bakers, if you start looking at Donald, if you start looking at Goff, if you start looking at Stafford, if you start looking at all these guys, where you land matters. And that's what Caleb Williams was worried about. I mean, it's like if you were going to date a rockstar and you were worried about infidelity and a wild lifestyle. That's not being cynical, that's not being skeptical.

Seth Wickersham, great reporter at ESPN, reports something we did a year ago, which is Caleb Williams dad wasn't in love with the idea of his son being a Chicago Bear based on you know, history and the truth. And Caleb Williams, you know, was considering his options but eventually just said, I'll be a Bear. So, and here's the thing, this story broke yesterday when we were on the air about midway through the show. All those concerns and all those Chicago Bears hurdles turned out to be true. So where you land, you know, this is seventy five percent of the game for a quarterback. Gold got Matt Stafford easily the best high school quarterback in the country, best college quarterback. Had to go thirteen years to really find Sean McVay. He was seventy four and ninety in Detroit, first couple of years in Los Angeles, Like, is he better than Aaron Rodgers? He's hoisting a trophy beating Joe Burrow in the biggest game of the year, go look at Jared Goff zero for seven with defensive minded Jeff Fisher. One year later, eleven and four with McVay and a passer rating in the hundreds. He looked like a bust Sam Darnold disaster with a defensive coach, and the Jets, well some Adam Gase and you know, some offense, some defense. But where you land matters. Disaster in New York, struggled in Carolina, magical in Minnesota. Baker Mayfield, It's Hugh Jackson, it's Freddie Kitchens, it's Greg Williams, it's it's Oh Then he finds McVeigh and he finds Liam Cohen. What do you know, Baker looks like a top twelve to thirteen quarterback in the NFL. He you know, he The bottom line in this stuff is, if you start looking at your Bakers, if you start looking at Donald, if you start looking at Goff, if you start looking at Stafford, if you start looking at all these guys, where you land matters. And that's what Caleb Williams was worried about. I mean, it's like if you were going to date a rockstar and you were worried about infidelity and a wild lifestyle. That's not being cynical, that's not being skeptical.

Those are legitimate concerns.

Those are legitimate concerns.

Now, the good news is, and we talked about this yesterday, the good news is you can rebound. You couldn't like twenty years ago, if you got stuck with your first coach. You know, coaches that may be it like that's it. There are so many now great young offensive minds, so many McVeigh copycats. You know, Kevin O'Connell Minnesota, they call them the tal Sean McVay. There are so many good offensive coaches. For a Donald or a Geno Smith or a Tua or a Jared Goff has a second chance. And I think Caleb got lucky. The Bears got rid the front office ownership, got rid of the defensive head coach and the defensive staff. They got him potentially his Sean McVay. And I think Ben Johnson much like Sean McVay or Sean Payton in Denver or Kevin o'connla Minnesota. What's the first thing Ben Johnson did clean up the offensive line for his young quarterback, something Mike Tomlin can't do for the last decade. So I think it's going to turn out well. But I think all this stuff. Ask yourself when you were coming out of college, if I would have told you, yeah, there's this company that's going to choose you. They really like you, but they have one hundred year history of not getting your position right, would you not be concerned? So here's ESPN Seth Wickersham that story that broke during our show yesterday on Chicago Radio, and then Ben Johnson too.

Now, the good news is, and we talked about this yesterday, the good news is you can rebound. You couldn't like twenty years ago, if you got stuck with your first coach. You know, coaches that may be it like that's it. There are so many now great young offensive minds, so many McVeigh copycats. You know, Kevin O'Connell Minnesota, they call them the tal Sean McVay. There are so many good offensive coaches. For a Donald or a Geno Smith or a Tua or a Jared Goff has a second chance. And I think Caleb got lucky. The Bears got rid the front office ownership, got rid of the defensive head coach and the defensive staff. They got him potentially his Sean McVay. And I think Ben Johnson much like Sean McVay or Sean Payton in Denver or Kevin o'connla Minnesota. What's the first thing Ben Johnson did clean up the offensive line for his young quarterback, something Mike Tomlin can't do for the last decade. So I think it's going to turn out well. But I think all this stuff. Ask yourself when you were coming out of college, if I would have told you, yeah, there's this company that's going to choose you. They really like you, but they have one hundred year history of not getting your position right, would you not be concerned? So here's ESPN Seth Wickersham that story that broke during our show yesterday on Chicago Radio, and then Ben Johnson too.

Seth, how close do you think the Williams family was to actually not being drafted out of Beardon subway, either getting out of it or having one of these plans come to fruition.

Seth, how close do you think the Williams family was to actually not being drafted out of Beardon subway, either getting out of it or having one of these plans come to fruition.

I mean, I think it was like, you know, the gasolines out do we want to light the match? And Jabb didn't want to like the match.

I mean, I think it was like, you know, the gasolines out do we want to light the match? And Jabb didn't want to like the match.

I see a chance for greatness here for him. He's been communicated that way and he feels the same way. I don't know what's going on prior to him joining the organization, but he is very proud to be a Chicago Bear. That's what our conversations have included. And he's really excited to get to work right now and be the best version of himself for twenty twenty five I'm excited. That's what makes coaching fun is when the hiccups occur, when the adversity strikes, how do we respond to it. That's when you find out who you are as a man.

I see a chance for greatness here for him. He's been communicated that way and he feels the same way. I don't know what's going on prior to him joining the organization, but he is very proud to be a Chicago Bear. That's what our conversations have included. And he's really excited to get to work right now and be the best version of himself for twenty twenty five I'm excited. That's what makes coaching fun is when the hiccups occur, when the adversity strikes, how do we respond to it. That's when you find out who you are as a man.

For the record, one year from now, Arch Manning. I just read a story about arch Manning. He's put on like eight to ten pounds or some muscle. It's really worked in his mechanics. Arch Manning is going to be the number one pick in the draft, and you know, if you asked him privately, you know where he'd want to go. The Rams, who have two first round picks, but they're going to be too good, and they have Atlanta's first round pick. In Atlanta probably wins a lot of games in the Week Division, so they probably won't have the ammo to move up to get arch Manning. Privately, though, that's where he wants to go. He would love to go to them, not Cleveland, who also has two first round picks. It's nothing against Kevin Stevanski, but you got Picket and Shaduur and Dylan Gabriel and Joe Flacco. It's a circus. Johnny Manziel, you passed on Mahomes. It's a circus. So like it's and I think everybody watching or listening to the show understands it. Sports can be incredibly cruel. The harder you work coming out of college as an athlete, the worst organization you often go to. Cross your fingers on Ben Johnson. I do think him activating the front office with the Bears and going heavy in O line investments. Joe Tooney Drew Dolman is a great sign. First thing Sean Payton did in Denver for bow Knicks get the O line right, McVeigh. First thing he did from Jeff Fisher Andrew Whitworth left tackle from the Bengals. So that was the first thing he did. Let's go get the offensive line right. That bodes very well for Caleb Williams. But I have no problem with his dad skepticism or his as well. All right, J Mack, tonight is huge. The Knicks now, Boston's a weird team.

For the record, one year from now, Arch Manning. I just read a story about arch Manning. He's put on like eight to ten pounds or some muscle. It's really worked in his mechanics. Arch Manning is going to be the number one pick in the draft, and you know, if you asked him privately, you know where he'd want to go. The Rams, who have two first round picks, but they're going to be too good, and they have Atlanta's first round pick. In Atlanta probably wins a lot of games in the Week Division, so they probably won't have the ammo to move up to get arch Manning. Privately, though, that's where he wants to go. He would love to go to them, not Cleveland, who also has two first round picks. It's nothing against Kevin Stevanski, but you got Picket and Shaduur and Dylan Gabriel and Joe Flacco. It's a circus. Johnny Manziel, you passed on Mahomes. It's a circus. So like it's and I think everybody watching or listening to the show understands it. Sports can be incredibly cruel. The harder you work coming out of college as an athlete, the worst organization you often go to. Cross your fingers on Ben Johnson. I do think him activating the front office with the Bears and going heavy in O line investments. Joe Tooney Drew Dolman is a great sign. First thing Sean Payton did in Denver for bow Knicks get the O line right, McVeigh. First thing he did from Jeff Fisher Andrew Whitworth left tackle from the Bengals. So that was the first thing he did. Let's go get the offensive line right. That bodes very well for Caleb Williams. But I have no problem with his dad skepticism or his as well. All right, J Mack, tonight is huge. The Knicks now, Boston's a weird team.

Jmack.

Jmack.

It is historically weird. Their net rating is better without Jason Tatum. It's I know, it's crazy. I what's the line? I would guess the Knicks are favored by one or two. I like the next to night to.

It is historically weird. Their net rating is better without Jason Tatum. It's I know, it's crazy. I what's the line? I would guess the Knicks are favored by one or two. I like the next to night to.

You, so yes, I do like the next day we'll win.

You, so yes, I do like the next day we'll win.

That being said, this whole idea that the Celtics net rating is better without Tatum, like we need more context.

That being said, this whole idea that the Celtics net rating is better without Tatum, like we need more context.

Who are they playing?

Who are they playing?

You know, are some other Celtics missing. I think this that game was less about Tatum. The last one more about the move to put Luke Cornett in the game in the second half for Porzingis, who gave him nothing. Luke Cornett had seven blocks Colin. There's videos online where he's guarding three and four people. Joe Mizzoula finally got off his head and did something.

You know, are some other Celtics missing. I think this that game was less about Tatum. The last one more about the move to put Luke Cornett in the game in the second half for Porzingis, who gave him nothing. Luke Cornett had seven blocks Colin. There's videos online where he's guarding three and four people. Joe Mizzoula finally got off his head and did something.

It was a genius move.

It was a genius move.

But I still like the nixt to night Gardens gonna be a nice scene. They're very excited for my Knicks advancing.

But I still like the nixt to night Gardens gonna be a nice scene. They're very excited for my Knicks advancing.

Well, it'll obviously the biggest Knicks game in I mean, however long and if they win three yeah, I mean it's it's but I mean, you're it's. The Knicks history has been greater than the next recent history. Their their their valuation as a team has always been greater than their productivity and results. But the world of basketball is It's Madison Square Garden tonight.

Well, it'll obviously the biggest Knicks game in I mean, however long and if they win three yeah, I mean it's it's but I mean, you're it's. The Knicks history has been greater than the next recent history. Their their their valuation as a team has always been greater than their productivity and results. But the world of basketball is It's Madison Square Garden tonight.

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Dave Roberts, Dodgers manager, stopping by in forty minutes, Best team in Baseball, Best player ever o Tawny Bubble d Night.

Dave Roberts, Dodgers manager, stopping by in forty minutes, Best team in Baseball, Best player ever o Tawny Bubble d Night.

He did it again.

He did it again.

So uh well, well, well, I have been defending occasional anonymous sourcing. I get a lot of my information from people who are gonna give me more honest, sometimes ruthless opinions. They don't have to put their name on it. I don't do it all the time, but I will defend anonymous sourcing. You see these anonymous polls. The NBA does well. The WNBA just did an anonymous poll. You don't have to put your name on it. And the truth finally came out. Caitlin Clark voted on by general managers, the vast point guard, the bass shooting guard, and the singular player they would start the franchise with. In the weird insular WNBA. This has been a real struggle, you know, the truth, so once you could be honest about it, and that's I guess what you have to be anonymously in the WNBA. And there's these people who are fans of indie bands, international soccer, and the WNBA. They this gait keeping mentality will tell you who's great.

So uh well, well, well, I have been defending occasional anonymous sourcing. I get a lot of my information from people who are gonna give me more honest, sometimes ruthless opinions. They don't have to put their name on it. I don't do it all the time, but I will defend anonymous sourcing. You see these anonymous polls. The NBA does well. The WNBA just did an anonymous poll. You don't have to put your name on it. And the truth finally came out. Caitlin Clark voted on by general managers, the vast point guard, the bass shooting guard, and the singular player they would start the franchise with. In the weird insular WNBA. This has been a real struggle, you know, the truth, so once you could be honest about it, and that's I guess what you have to be anonymously in the WNBA. And there's these people who are fans of indie bands, international soccer, and the WNBA. They this gait keeping mentality will tell you who's great.

Colin.

Colin.

I was watching the WNBA long before Caitlin Clark. Well, yeah, it's not my problem. Your social life was boring. I'm not gonna apologize for watching it when it got really interesting. And I've said this about Steph Curry. I love Draymond Green and Jimmy Butler and pods, but if you take Steph Curry out of the Warriors, they're kind of boring. And if you take Caitlin Clark out of the WNBA and her team, it's not the same. She's packing now larger arenas. She's taking and making shots nobody's ever done in the history of the sport.

I was watching the WNBA long before Caitlin Clark. Well, yeah, it's not my problem. Your social life was boring. I'm not gonna apologize for watching it when it got really interesting. And I've said this about Steph Curry. I love Draymond Green and Jimmy Butler and pods, but if you take Steph Curry out of the Warriors, they're kind of boring. And if you take Caitlin Clark out of the WNBA and her team, it's not the same. She's packing now larger arenas. She's taking and making shots nobody's ever done in the history of the sport.

She is Steph Curry.

She is Steph Curry.

I mean, there's a reason the NBA puts Steph Curry on Christmas, and privately, the NBA was Steph Curry out of the playoffs. Nose Minnesota is not going to get the same number WNBA players weirdly have been fighting growth, stopped fighting the truth.

I mean, there's a reason the NBA puts Steph Curry on Christmas, and privately, the NBA was Steph Curry out of the playoffs. Nose Minnesota is not going to get the same number WNBA players weirdly have been fighting growth, stopped fighting the truth.

Get out of your own way. It is a bad look.

Get out of your own way. It is a bad look.

She is a fascinating player and it must be exhausting hating new cool things. I mean, here's the twenty When Steph Curry entered the NBA. You didn't hear any of this.

She is a fascinating player and it must be exhausting hating new cool things. I mean, here's the twenty When Steph Curry entered the NBA. You didn't hear any of this.

Whoa slow down? You know what you heard?

Whoa slow down? You know what you heard?

Bro? I can take those shots now. Steph Curry opened up the floor for other guys and shooting big guys started practicing their threes, forward started practicing their threes. He opened up opportunities. And never forget the Warriors valuation was three hundred and fifteen million dollars before he got there. The latest valuation is eight point two billion. That's not just Draymon and pods. I'm gonna tell you that's Steph Curry. That's Steph Curry. The WNBA flew commercial flights before she played a game. They went to privatized flights. Okay, that's Kitlin Clark, only Caitlin Clark. So just just promote it, market it ride. The best wave this league has ever had. Doesn't mean it doesn't mean they haven't had great players. It doesn't mean they don't have other really great players. But you get these comments, you get these unique unicorns.

Bro? I can take those shots now. Steph Curry opened up the floor for other guys and shooting big guys started practicing their threes, forward started practicing their threes. He opened up opportunities. And never forget the Warriors valuation was three hundred and fifteen million dollars before he got there. The latest valuation is eight point two billion. That's not just Draymon and pods. I'm gonna tell you that's Steph Curry. That's Steph Curry. The WNBA flew commercial flights before she played a game. They went to privatized flights. Okay, that's Kitlin Clark, only Caitlin Clark. So just just promote it, market it ride. The best wave this league has ever had. Doesn't mean it doesn't mean they haven't had great players. It doesn't mean they don't have other really great players. But you get these comments, you get these unique unicorns.

That's what she is.

That's what she is.

And once she went to an anonymous poll, the GMS are like, yep, that's who you'd start the franchises with that's the best point guard, that's the best shooting guard. That's the best thing we have. It's been obvious for everybody except a big chunk of WNBA players.

And once she went to an anonymous poll, the GMS are like, yep, that's who you'd start the franchises with that's the best point guard, that's the best shooting guard. That's the best thing we have. It's been obvious for everybody except a big chunk of WNBA players.

Here's Jmack with the news, No no turns.

Here's Jmack with the news, No no turns.

This is the herdline news.

This is the herdline news.

Right.

Right.

Let's start with the New York Giants.

Let's start with the New York Giants.

We ridiculed them for that brutal schedule yesterday. Well, Giant GM Joe Shane took his quarterback of the future, Jackson Dark in the draft, and he talked to Kay Adams about why he felt the Giants quarterback room can lead Dark to success.

We ridiculed them for that brutal schedule yesterday. Well, Giant GM Joe Shane took his quarterback of the future, Jackson Dark in the draft, and he talked to Kay Adams about why he felt the Giants quarterback room can lead Dark to success.

In the NFL.

In the NFL.

Any player that we take, it's a collaborative process and it's very detailed and we believe in it. So, you know, Jackson's the guy that was on the radar throughout the fall. We were able to see play live, spend a lot of time with him at the Senior Bowl, you know, as well as this springs. And then you throw into Mike Kafka, who was there for Patrick Mahomes rookie year where he only played one game and he got to see that development.

Any player that we take, it's a collaborative process and it's very detailed and we believe in it. So, you know, Jackson's the guy that was on the radar throughout the fall. We were able to see play live, spend a lot of time with him at the Senior Bowl, you know, as well as this springs. And then you throw into Mike Kafka, who was there for Patrick Mahomes rookie year where he only played one game and he got to see that development.

And Shay Tierney, our quarterback coach.

And Shay Tierney, our quarterback coach.

So three coaches on staff that have been a part of, you know, the development of two pretty good quarterbacks in the league right now.

So three coaches on staff that have been a part of, you know, the development of two pretty good quarterbacks in the league right now.

Yeah, sure, well he'll play this year.

Yeah, sure, well he'll play this year.

Oh really, how much.

Oh really, how much.

I think you'll see him?

I think you'll see him?

I mean, it's by the way, I read a story today where Russell Wilson was fully engaged and aware that the Giants were going to move up and take a quarterback.

I mean, it's by the way, I read a story today where Russell Wilson was fully engaged and aware that the Giants were going to move up and take a quarterback.

So he's gonna play.

So he's gonna play.

And I think if you look at their schedule, it's crazy, It is unbelievable. The Giant schedule compared to the Niners. It's two different sports. Like the Giant schedule, if they play well, I mean, look at this playoff Washington at Dallas playoff, Kansas City playoff Chargers. Oh, they get a breather, but they're at the Saints, which is a tough place to play. Super Bowl winning Philadelphia playoff, Denver playoff Philly. You know, the Niners are going to be better than last year. So I mean, this is a I do not remember a schedule through twelve weeks of my life that was this. This is a brutal schedule for a good deed.

And I think if you look at their schedule, it's crazy, It is unbelievable. The Giant schedule compared to the Niners. It's two different sports. Like the Giant schedule, if they play well, I mean, look at this playoff Washington at Dallas playoff, Kansas City playoff Chargers. Oh, they get a breather, but they're at the Saints, which is a tough place to play. Super Bowl winning Philadelphia playoff, Denver playoff Philly. You know, the Niners are going to be better than last year. So I mean, this is a I do not remember a schedule through twelve weeks of my life that was this. This is a brutal schedule for a good deed.

Do you think they might not be favored in any game next season? I don't know that they're definitely favored against the Saints on the road. It's possible maybe, but other than that, like they're gonna be an underdog in every single game.

Do you think they might not be favored in any game next season? I don't know that they're definitely favored against the Saints on the road. It's possible maybe, but other than that, like they're gonna be an underdog in every single game.

That's a death.

That's a death.

Now Jackson Dark is playing, and Jackson Dark this team.

Now Jackson Dark is playing, and Jackson Dark this team.

Listen.

Listen.

The bottom line is Brian Dabole has to win games if Russell's not within. My guess is they go zero to four to start the year, and you may give Russell Wilson the Saints game, or as a staff, you're like, let's give Jackson Dart the only easy game on our schedule.

The bottom line is Brian Dabole has to win games if Russell's not within. My guess is they go zero to four to start the year, and you may give Russell Wilson the Saints game, or as a staff, you're like, let's give Jackson Dart the only easy game on our schedule.

There's a world where Russell Wilson works with his deep ball down the sideline. To my league neighbors, we just outjump everybody. I mean, maybe they're competitive.

There's a world where Russell Wilson works with his deep ball down the sideline. To my league neighbors, we just outjump everybody. I mean, maybe they're competitive.

I just I don't see it. All right, let's move on to the NBA column.

I just I don't see it. All right, let's move on to the NBA column.

I kind of found this comical, But there's a report that says the Houston Rockets really want Jannis. They're considering trading our prind Shing Goon in a package for Jannis. Let me just get the wording for you. The Rockets would consider. The report goes on to say Milwaukee said, yeah, but we'd rather have Jalen Green and Jabari Smith than shn Goon. This is gonna be such a fun offseason.

I kind of found this comical, But there's a report that says the Houston Rockets really want Jannis. They're considering trading our prind Shing Goon in a package for Jannis. Let me just get the wording for you. The Rockets would consider. The report goes on to say Milwaukee said, yeah, but we'd rather have Jalen Green and Jabari Smith than shn Goon. This is gonna be such a fun offseason.

In the NBA. And I do think the Rockets and Yannis make perfect sense.

In the NBA. And I do think the Rockets and Yannis make perfect sense.

Well.

Well.

First of all, Shen Gun's an All Star at twenty two and has a defined offensive game. Jafari Smith and Jalen Green are just athletic. Green to this points lost offensive place. So if that's what Milwaukee wants, by all.

First of all, Shen Gun's an All Star at twenty two and has a defined offensive game. Jafari Smith and Jalen Green are just athletic. Green to this points lost offensive place. So if that's what Milwaukee wants, by all.

Means, give it to them.

Means, give it to them.

If you can keep shen Goon in the trade for Yannis, that's nuts. That's the one guy in the rosteroid.

If you can keep shen Goon in the trade for Yannis, that's nuts. That's the one guy in the rosteroid.

The only problem with that, Colin is then you have two non shooters on the floor.

The only problem with that, Colin is then you have two non shooters on the floor.

Yannas ain't a three point shooter, neither is shan Gun, so you've got to pack Lean.

Yannas ain't a three point shooter, neither is shan Gun, so you've got to pack Lean.

If you are able to move off Shnguon, could you find us stretch five, a center who shoots threes, a Lori market and just.

If you are able to move off Shnguon, could you find us stretch five, a center who shoots threes, a Lori market and just.

So much Shen I think shan Gon can develop into it nice. I don't know his numbers in front of me. He's got a feathery, beautiful touch. He can hit eighteen footers. I don't Shangun's a really nice classic Europeans smart, can shoot, highly skilled, nice touch. I mean, if I'm Milwaukee, everything starts with that. I don't want to be saddled with Jalen Green trying to teach him how to play offensive half court basket.

So much Shen I think shan Gon can develop into it nice. I don't know his numbers in front of me. He's got a feathery, beautiful touch. He can hit eighteen footers. I don't Shangun's a really nice classic Europeans smart, can shoot, highly skilled, nice touch. I mean, if I'm Milwaukee, everything starts with that. I don't want to be saddled with Jalen Green trying to teach him how to play offensive half court basket.

Well, listen, at some point you need a guy who can get a bucket. But the other thing is, remember Yannis didn't really make the jump.

Well, listen, at some point you need a guy who can get a bucket. But the other thing is, remember Yannis didn't really make the jump.

To light speed until they unlock.

To light speed until they unlock.

Lopez is a three point shooter, and then it was like, oh my gosh.

Lopez is a three point shooter, and then it was like, oh my gosh.

Look at all this space in the lane.

Look at all this space in the lane.

We got Middleton, we got Lopez, and Yannis is diving and scoring at will.

We got Middleton, we got Lopez, and Yannis is diving and scoring at will.

So this is good. Just gonna be fascinating to watch.

So this is good. Just gonna be fascinating to watch.

My only thing, Colin, if you're Yannis or you're in his camp, do you tell him listen, man, I know the Rockets look appealing. I know this Spurs do. If you stay East, you've got a better shot to get to the finals because the West is beyond loaded.

My only thing, Colin, if you're Yannis or you're in his camp, do you tell him listen, man, I know the Rockets look appealing. I know this Spurs do. If you stay East, you've got a better shot to get to the finals because the West is beyond loaded.

Well, you know, Pete Carroll is telling Chip Kelly, Yes, we have Sean Payton, Jim Harbaugh and Andy Reid in our division, but you're gonna have to face him in the playoffs eventually anyway, So why not get their playbooks? You know, why not play them twice and know exactly what they are. You're gonna have to play them eventually so we won't get caught off guard. And my take is, you know, if you're Yannis, it's not about getting to the playoffs, it's about winning titles. Well, you're gonna have to play those teams anyway. And by the way, the Knicks aren't going to be a pushover. The Celtics aren't going anywhere. Indiana looks tough. So I at the bottom line is if he wants to go where it's warm, no state tax and a team that can win a title. If if I don't have to give up Shan Goon and I can get Yannis, Wow, I mean the two players.

Well, you know, Pete Carroll is telling Chip Kelly, Yes, we have Sean Payton, Jim Harbaugh and Andy Reid in our division, but you're gonna have to face him in the playoffs eventually anyway, So why not get their playbooks? You know, why not play them twice and know exactly what they are. You're gonna have to play them eventually so we won't get caught off guard. And my take is, you know, if you're Yannis, it's not about getting to the playoffs, it's about winning titles. Well, you're gonna have to play those teams anyway. And by the way, the Knicks aren't going to be a pushover. The Celtics aren't going anywhere. Indiana looks tough. So I at the bottom line is if he wants to go where it's warm, no state tax and a team that can win a title. If if I don't have to give up Shan Goon and I can get Yannis, Wow, I mean the two players.

I'm Houston.

I'm Houston.

I don't want to give up Amen Thompson and sham Goon. You could have everybody else and picks. But if I can keep those two and get Yannis, you are a championship level team next year.

I don't want to give up Amen Thompson and sham Goon. You could have everybody else and picks. But if I can keep those two and get Yannis, you are a championship level team next year.

That's a good poet, finals Roy Colin.

That's a good poet, finals Roy Colin.

Ah boy, here we go with your favorite guy, Bill Belichick. He was on the Morning Till Good Morning America Today talking with Michael Strahan and Bill Belichick while promoting his book was asked about his girlfriend, Jordan Hudson.

Ah boy, here we go with your favorite guy, Bill Belichick. He was on the Morning Till Good Morning America Today talking with Michael Strahan and Bill Belichick while promoting his book was asked about his girlfriend, Jordan Hudson.

Take it away, Bill, what did Jordan mean to you?

Take it away, Bill, what did Jordan mean to you?

Well, we have good personal relationship, and you know, I'm not talking about personal relationships, Michael. You know that she's been terrific, you know, through the whole process, and she's been very helpful to me. She does the business things that don't relate to North Carolina that come up in my life so I can concentrate on football, and that's really what I want to do.

Well, we have good personal relationship, and you know, I'm not talking about personal relationships, Michael. You know that she's been terrific, you know, through the whole process, and she's been very helpful to me. She does the business things that don't relate to North Carolina that come up in my life so I can concentrate on football, and that's really what I want to do.

Yeah. See that doesn't bother me at all. And that's what you know.

Yeah. See that doesn't bother me at all. And that's what you know.

She helps him with a little bit, you know, it's hoodie and the hashtag. She helps him with all the social stuff and he does his And by the way, Belichick at this point has massive real estate. He's he's got a lot of stuff going on in his life, a book, she can do all that stuff.

She helps him with a little bit, you know, it's hoodie and the hashtag. She helps him with all the social stuff and he does his And by the way, Belichick at this point has massive real estate. He's he's got a lot of stuff going on in his life, a book, she can do all that stuff.

Yeah, I just Helen, how much of this storyline has become about jealousy? You got a seventy five year whatever Belichick, seventy year old guy with like a twenty five year old hot chick who's in beauty pageants?

Yeah, I just Helen, how much of this storyline has become about jealousy? You got a seventy five year whatever Belichick, seventy year old guy with like a twenty five year old hot chick who's in beauty pageants?

Is there some jealousy out there around this story?

Is there some jealousy out there around this story?

I think the family's concerns to me, are very transparent. When they say they're worried about Bill, and they're worried about the will, you know Bill is not He is not. Again, he's not an old man, a feeble old man. People that are seventy and that, like Nick Saban, when you've been making ten to fifteen million dollars a year, you're getting better healthcare, you're eating better. You have people doing all the DMV stuff. You're just doing. I mean, honestly, you're playing a lot of golf, You're doing your job. You're eating better than the average person. It's like when people say all the Western diet, you only live to be sixty eight. If you're making the kind of money Belichick is, you have assistance doing the tedious stuff again, nutrition, medical, it's different life. He's seventy three the average American, he's probably healthier than the average sixty three.

I think the family's concerns to me, are very transparent. When they say they're worried about Bill, and they're worried about the will, you know Bill is not He is not. Again, he's not an old man, a feeble old man. People that are seventy and that, like Nick Saban, when you've been making ten to fifteen million dollars a year, you're getting better healthcare, you're eating better. You have people doing all the DMV stuff. You're just doing. I mean, honestly, you're playing a lot of golf, You're doing your job. You're eating better than the average person. It's like when people say all the Western diet, you only live to be sixty eight. If you're making the kind of money Belichick is, you have assistance doing the tedious stuff again, nutrition, medical, it's different life. He's seventy three the average American, he's probably healthier than the average sixty three.

That's great, Colin, I hear that.

That's great, Colin, I hear that.

And then if you're in his family and you read these articles that all of a sudden, this girl dating Bill Belichick, all of a sudden has a massive real estate portfolio in eight months, say whoa, whoa, what's going on here?

And then if you're in his family and you read these articles that all of a sudden, this girl dating Bill Belichick, all of a sudden has a massive real estate portfolio in eight months, say whoa, whoa, what's going on here?

He gets swindled.

He gets swindled.

I'm not saying that you just have to ask these questions if you're the family.

I'm not saying that you just have to ask these questions if you're the family.

No, I don't think a girlfriend having a duplex in Cape Town means belichi.

No, I don't think a girlfriend having a duplex in Cape Town means belichi.

What about swindled?

What about swindled?

Okay, what about three of them?

Okay, what about three of them?

Oh, he's got a place in Jupiter, Florida, a place in Nantucket. He's got one hundred million dollars in real estate.

Oh, he's got a place in Jupiter, Florida, a place in Nantucket. He's got one hundred million dollars in real estate.

Boats.

Boats.

Oh, she's got a she's got a town home on the Cape. I don't, I just I'm sorry, it just it's bills, two hundred million dollar net worth. She's got a seven million dollar networth. I'm okay with it.

Oh, she's got a she's got a town home on the Cape. I don't, I just I'm sorry, it just it's bills, two hundred million dollar net worth. She's got a seven million dollar networth. I'm okay with it.

She has a seven million dollar net worth out on blue see. Her networth two years ago was zero and now it's seven.

She has a seven million dollar net worth out on blue see. Her networth two years ago was zero and now it's seven.

But again, I don't really care. My favorite thing is this whole the money aspect. I'm sure you've heard all these gurus online. Oh, money's not gonna make you happy, you know what, Give me some of your money and we'll then we'll talk about it, right like, I mean, it's just silly. Like of course, she's gonna be thrilled.

But again, I don't really care. My favorite thing is this whole the money aspect. I'm sure you've heard all these gurus online. Oh, money's not gonna make you happy, you know what, Give me some of your money and we'll then we'll talk about it, right like, I mean, it's just silly. Like of course, she's gonna be thrilled.

Listen, her parents had a business, the business went bankrupt. She's young, she's beautiful, she's ambitious. Let's just let's be honest. Guys who were young from divorced families, ambitious, been doing this forever like a young woman does.

Listen, her parents had a business, the business went bankrupt. She's young, she's beautiful, she's ambitious. Let's just let's be honest. Guys who were young from divorced families, ambitious, been doing this forever like a young woman does.

Everybody's like, whoa.

Everybody's like, whoa.

It's like, guys, this is what kids come, a little turbulence in their life. They have an opportunity. Sometimes you move, sometimes it's a relationship.

It's like, guys, this is what kids come, a little turbulence in their life. They have an opportunity. Sometimes you move, sometimes it's a relationship.

Whatever.

Whatever.

Ambitious young people find their way. If it's through a relationship, I'm okay with him.

Ambitious young people find their way. If it's through a relationship, I'm okay with him.

I'll reserve the I'm just gonna stand down on this. I'll let your words.

I'll reserve the I'm just gonna stand down on this. I'll let your words.

Do the talking to me.

Do the talking to me.

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So you know it's in my lifetime. There have only been three athletes that have been like historically hyped and then over delivered. Otani's one of them. Bobble had night last night. He had two jacks. So the three athletes are Tiger Woods, Lebron James, and Otani. I mean, think about Lebron James. He surpassed Magic Johnson and assists and Kareem in points. Tiger Woods, nobody'd ever won four consecutive majors.

So you know it's in my lifetime. There have only been three athletes that have been like historically hyped and then over delivered. Otani's one of them. Bobble had night last night. He had two jacks. So the three athletes are Tiger Woods, Lebron James, and Otani. I mean, think about Lebron James. He surpassed Magic Johnson and assists and Kareem in points. Tiger Woods, nobody'd ever won four consecutive majors.

He did. It's called the Tiger Slam.

He did. It's called the Tiger Slam.

So I mean, you're when you're surpassing Magic and Kareem and Jack Nicholas like that's that's and that's what we have here. It's it's totally accepted. Now he's better than Babe Ruth. I mean some guys break records. He's rewriting the book. I mean, he's got fifteen home runs over ten stolen bases, forty five runs scoredon twenty five walks through forty two games.

So I mean, you're when you're surpassing Magic and Kareem and Jack Nicholas like that's that's and that's what we have here. It's it's totally accepted. Now he's better than Babe Ruth. I mean some guys break records. He's rewriting the book. I mean, he's got fifteen home runs over ten stolen bases, forty five runs scoredon twenty five walks through forty two games.

Never been done. And it's just so.

Never been done. And it's just so.

Interesting last night, and he hasn't He wants to pitch for the Dodgers, and contractually the organization they probably don't want him to. They're in first place without it. But there's so many pitching injuries, and we'll talk to that about Dave Roberts. Baseball's as three times as many Tommy John surgeries today as like ten fifteen years ago. There's a lot of reasons for it. Velocity is everything, you know, Injuries are all all over baseball pitching staffs. The Dodgers are a great illustration of that. So I think privately they they probably would rather just can you just hit and drive in runs?

Interesting last night, and he hasn't He wants to pitch for the Dodgers, and contractually the organization they probably don't want him to. They're in first place without it. But there's so many pitching injuries, and we'll talk to that about Dave Roberts. Baseball's as three times as many Tommy John surgeries today as like ten fifteen years ago. There's a lot of reasons for it. Velocity is everything, you know, Injuries are all all over baseball pitching staffs. The Dodgers are a great illustration of that. So I think privately they they probably would rather just can you just hit and drive in runs?

They don't want to risk the injury.

They don't want to risk the injury.

But I mean, I think contractually they've kind of agreed if he's going to be a Dodger, he's gonna pitch, and he wants to pitch. But last night, two home runs, six RBIs classic Otani on Bobblehead Night. He's by far and away the most productive player. And here's home run number one.

But I mean, I think contractually they've kind of agreed if he's going to be a Dodger, he's gonna pitch, and he wants to pitch. But last night, two home runs, six RBIs classic Otani on Bobblehead Night. He's by far and away the most productive player. And here's home run number one.

On a two to oh.

On a two to oh.

Otani hunches about the other way, headed towards the seat.

Otani hunches about the other way, headed towards the seat.

Set is game.

Set is game.

A three run home run from Shana Otani. Ten runs for the Dodgers in three anies on a team that is completely stacked. The Dodgers batting order is an all Star team this year. First in runs. He had a little slump, he had I think he had his first child. He didn't, you know, for a couple of weeks, obviously distracted. But he's I mean, on a team that's got speed, power, Freddie Freeman, Mookie Bets first, second, third, you know, he's just he's just a remarkable he Tiger Woods and Lebron. I know, Lebron's got his critics, and we thought he was going.

A three run home run from Shana Otani. Ten runs for the Dodgers in three anies on a team that is completely stacked. The Dodgers batting order is an all Star team this year. First in runs. He had a little slump, he had I think he had his first child. He didn't, you know, for a couple of weeks, obviously distracted. But he's I mean, on a team that's got speed, power, Freddie Freeman, Mookie Bets first, second, third, you know, he's just he's just a remarkable he Tiger Woods and Lebron. I know, Lebron's got his critics, and we thought he was going.

To be really good.

To be really good.

We didn't think he was going to surpass the skyhook and Magic Johnson and still going and still a top ten player.

We didn't think he was going to surpass the skyhook and Magic Johnson and still going and still a top ten player.

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Dave Roberts, Dodger manager, top of the next hour, playing great baseball. Got to keep those pictures healthy, which is just incredible in baseball. Over the last five to ten years, all the Tommy John surgeries have tripled. Danny Parkins four years dominated Chicago radio. Now he's at FS one breakfast phone, he's joining us. He knows his Chicago sports. So Seth wick Osham, very respected guy, comes out and you know he's writing a book on the history of quarterbacks, and all of a sudden, here's Caleb Williams. Caleb Williams ad I really defended Caleb, and I said, you know, years ago, if your first team.

Dave Roberts, Dodger manager, top of the next hour, playing great baseball. Got to keep those pictures healthy, which is just incredible in baseball. Over the last five to ten years, all the Tommy John surgeries have tripled. Danny Parkins four years dominated Chicago radio. Now he's at FS one breakfast phone, he's joining us. He knows his Chicago sports. So Seth wick Osham, very respected guy, comes out and you know he's writing a book on the history of quarterbacks, and all of a sudden, here's Caleb Williams. Caleb Williams ad I really defended Caleb, and I said, you know, years ago, if your first team.

Stunk, you were really behind the eight ball.

Stunk, you were really behind the eight ball.

Now golf to a Baker Darnald Gino, there's so many good offensive coaches that you do get second and third opportunities. Baker Mayfield now crushing it. So I think Caleb's going to be fine. But what was your takeaway on some of the comments by Caleb and his dad about the Bears before they became Bears.

Now golf to a Baker Darnald Gino, there's so many good offensive coaches that you do get second and third opportunities. Baker Mayfield now crushing it. So I think Caleb's going to be fine. But what was your takeaway on some of the comments by Caleb and his dad about the Bears before they became Bears.

Well, first of all, you were all over this, You were reporting this well before the draft, that Caleb and his camp had some concerns about the Bears. And you know, when Carl Williams said this is where Chicago's where quarterbacks go to die, I think there were about a million Bears fans in the Chicago metro area who were like, yep, we know, yeah, that's about as relatable, like thank you, like.

Well, first of all, you were all over this, You were reporting this well before the draft, that Caleb and his camp had some concerns about the Bears. And you know, when Carl Williams said this is where Chicago's where quarterbacks go to die, I think there were about a million Bears fans in the Chicago metro area who were like, yep, we know, yeah, that's about as relatable, like thank you, like.

That scene in Wolf of Wall Street. One of us, one of us, one of us, Like it would.

That scene in Wolf of Wall Street. One of us, one of us, one of us, Like it would.

Have been like if a Chicago cut was like, you know, I believe in curses before twenty sixteen, like we're well aware that that's where quarterbacks go to die. I thought Caleb was maybe like ten percent too honest with Seth Seth Wickersham. I respect the fact that he owned up to it. I don't think he needed to say that he had his hand on the nuclear button for the nuclear option. He's like, yeah, I was considering nuking the city. Probably probably not necessary. You could have just been saying, you know, I was, you know, evaluating all of my options and I'm thrilled to be a Bear. But the thing about it was was that all of the concerns Colin ended up being justified. They fired Shane Waldron nine games into the year, and Caleb Williams said he was watching film alone and had never been taught how to watch films. So it explains why it was such a disaster last season.

Have been like if a Chicago cut was like, you know, I believe in curses before twenty sixteen, like we're well aware that that's where quarterbacks go to die. I thought Caleb was maybe like ten percent too honest with Seth Seth Wickersham. I respect the fact that he owned up to it. I don't think he needed to say that he had his hand on the nuclear button for the nuclear option. He's like, yeah, I was considering nuking the city. Probably probably not necessary. You could have just been saying, you know, I was, you know, evaluating all of my options and I'm thrilled to be a Bear. But the thing about it was was that all of the concerns Colin ended up being justified. They fired Shane Waldron nine games into the year, and Caleb Williams said he was watching film alone and had never been taught how to watch films. So it explains why it was such a disaster last season.

Now again TUA defensive coach to McDaniels made a Pro Bowl. I mean Greg Williams, Hugh Jackson, Freddie Kitchens to McVeagh and Lee and Coulem transformed Baker's life. Goff Fisher to McVeigh. One of the things that's been noteworthy. Kevin O'Connell did this, Sean Payton did it in Denver immediately, and this is one of the things. McVeigh did it in LA with Andrew Whitworth. It's a very encouraging sign. The really good offensive coaches consolve offensive lines, Andy Reid McVeigh in an off season.

Now again TUA defensive coach to McDaniels made a Pro Bowl. I mean Greg Williams, Hugh Jackson, Freddie Kitchens to McVeagh and Lee and Coulem transformed Baker's life. Goff Fisher to McVeigh. One of the things that's been noteworthy. Kevin O'Connell did this, Sean Payton did it in Denver immediately, and this is one of the things. McVeigh did it in LA with Andrew Whitworth. It's a very encouraging sign. The really good offensive coaches consolve offensive lines, Andy Reid McVeigh in an off season.

They don't even need a season, they are an off season.

They don't even need a season, they are an off season.

So my take on Ben Johnson is he gets it their money and focus on the O line. I don't think people understand how good Dolmen and Tuney are like in NFL circles. Those are like very respected players, So I think I say, I think Chicago's a wildcard team Or is that overly optimistic.

So my take on Ben Johnson is he gets it their money and focus on the O line. I don't think people understand how good Dolmen and Tuney are like in NFL circles. Those are like very respected players, So I think I say, I think Chicago's a wildcard team Or is that overly optimistic.

No, it's not overly optimistic at all. It's a tough schedule. The win total in Vegas is eight and a half. But they upgraded left guard, center, right guard, nose tackle, defensive end, tight end one or two depending on how you value Cole Comet, wide receiver, three, head coach, and play caller all in one offseason.

No, it's not overly optimistic at all. It's a tough schedule. The win total in Vegas is eight and a half. But they upgraded left guard, center, right guard, nose tackle, defensive end, tight end one or two depending on how you value Cole Comet, wide receiver, three, head coach, and play caller all in one offseason.

That's pretty substantial. That's pretty good.

That's pretty substantial. That's pretty good.

There's always going to be more pressure on the Hall of famers who have been paid who haven't won a Super Bowl, Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson. But Caleb Williams is going to be very high up on those lists of who's under the most pressure to perform this year because you can look at the Bears roster and say, okay, kid, time's yours.

There's always going to be more pressure on the Hall of famers who have been paid who haven't won a Super Bowl, Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson. But Caleb Williams is going to be very high up on those lists of who's under the most pressure to perform this year because you can look at the Bears roster and say, okay, kid, time's yours.

Like what do the Bears not have at this point?

Like what do the Bears not have at this point?

They've done everything right after sabotaging his rookie year.

They've done everything right after sabotaging his rookie year.

There's a lot of things to take away from the NFL schedule. I thought of the Chargers between Brazil, all these short weeks against Detroit Buffalo, Why the Chargers get this cookie dough soft middle of the schedule I had predicted. I think they're going to pull back there on the margins anyway, right now, they enter the season with kind of a sketchy O line, which is the only thing that's ever undone that's been the only kryptonite for Mahomes has been like left tackle or O line issues.

There's a lot of things to take away from the NFL schedule. I thought of the Chargers between Brazil, all these short weeks against Detroit Buffalo, Why the Chargers get this cookie dough soft middle of the schedule I had predicted. I think they're going to pull back there on the margins anyway, right now, they enter the season with kind of a sketchy O line, which is the only thing that's ever undone that's been the only kryptonite for Mahomes has been like left tackle or O line issues.

So I do think.

So I do think.

They'll pull back and be like a ten eleven win team, not a dominant not a dominant operation. Is there something about the schedule that jumped out to Danny Parkins.

They'll pull back and be like a ten eleven win team, not a dominant not a dominant operation. Is there something about the schedule that jumped out to Danny Parkins.

Well last year we talked about the Pittsburgh Steelers how they needed to get off to a strong start because the end of the season.

Well last year we talked about the Pittsburgh Steelers how they needed to get off to a strong start because the end of the season.

Schedule was so brutal.

Schedule was so brutal.

That's the Dallas Cowboys this year, and I know, Okay, America's team. They're going to be on national TV. No one's crying for the Cowboys. But it's literally historic. Week twelve through Week seventeen, they play every team on their schedule won eleven or more games last year. They play on Thanksgiving, they play on Christmas, and there's two four day breaks, like they have four days off between the Eagles and Chiefs. I don't have the greatest memory in the world, but those two teams were in the Super Bowl last year. That's fairly difficult. Then four days off between Chargers and Commanders, with that Commander's game being on.

That's the Dallas Cowboys this year, and I know, Okay, America's team. They're going to be on national TV. No one's crying for the Cowboys. But it's literally historic. Week twelve through Week seventeen, they play every team on their schedule won eleven or more games last year. They play on Thanksgiving, they play on Christmas, and there's two four day breaks, like they have four days off between the Eagles and Chiefs. I don't have the greatest memory in the world, but those two teams were in the Super Bowl last year. That's fairly difficult. Then four days off between Chargers and Commanders, with that Commander's game being on.

The road is remarkably difficult.

The road is remarkably difficult.

So we knew the opponents ahead of time, but I thought the sequencing for Dallas was absolutely brutal to finish the season.

So we knew the opponents ahead of time, but I thought the sequencing for Dallas was absolutely brutal to finish the season.

So, you know, the Knicks game tonight can be one of two things, historically great or a nightmare. I like them tonight kind of your forecast, you're you're in the city, your forecast for what we see tonight in an interesting series.

So, you know, the Knicks game tonight can be one of two things, historically great or a nightmare. I like them tonight kind of your forecast, you're you're in the city, your forecast for what we see tonight in an interesting series.

I think the first quarter is gonna tell us a lot. You know, this is objectively the biggest game at Madison Square Garden since the Conference finals in two thousand. New York is a basketball town. Just ask a New Yorker. The Knicks are the one thing that really truly unites the city because you know, Matts and Yankees, all the different hockey teams, Jets and Giants. That's fairly well understood. Whether you've spent a day here, an hour here, or years and years your entire life here.

I think the first quarter is gonna tell us a lot. You know, this is objectively the biggest game at Madison Square Garden since the Conference finals in two thousand. New York is a basketball town. Just ask a New Yorker. The Knicks are the one thing that really truly unites the city because you know, Matts and Yankees, all the different hockey teams, Jets and Giants. That's fairly well understood. Whether you've spent a day here, an hour here, or years and years your entire life here.

It's a Knicks town.

It's a Knicks town.

But Colin, you know this three to one can get spun two different ways. If it's having thirteen times in NBA history a team came back from down three to one or a team collapsed from being up three to one. When Will Ron came back from down three to one against the Warriors, it's the single most impressive thing I've ever seen in basketball. He does it against the super team. He leads both teams in all five statistical categories. That was framed as a comeback with Tatum rupturing his achilles.

But Colin, you know this three to one can get spun two different ways. If it's having thirteen times in NBA history a team came back from down three to one or a team collapsed from being up three to one. When Will Ron came back from down three to one against the Warriors, it's the single most impressive thing I've ever seen in basketball. He does it against the super team. He leads both teams in all five statistical categories. That was framed as a comeback with Tatum rupturing his achilles.

If the Knicks lose, this will be a choke.

If the Knicks lose, this will be a choke.

Now, maybe if Boston ends up winning the title, history will be a little bit kinder to it. But in the immediate aftermath, this will go up there as a one of the great chokes in NBA playoff history and one of the great chokes in New York's sports history. You remember, of course, four Yankees Red Sox that's down three to zero, they come back, the Bloody Sock Game, Dave Roberts with the Steel Big Poppy, the MVP, Johnny Daman, the Grand Slam. Three ones not as bad as three to oh. But when the star player on the Celtics ruptures and achilles, I'll just say the Knicks better come out hot in the first quarter tonight, or that's going to be a very very tense building over at the world's most famous arena.

Now, maybe if Boston ends up winning the title, history will be a little bit kinder to it. But in the immediate aftermath, this will go up there as a one of the great chokes in NBA playoff history and one of the great chokes in New York's sports history. You remember, of course, four Yankees Red Sox that's down three to zero, they come back, the Bloody Sock Game, Dave Roberts with the Steel Big Poppy, the MVP, Johnny Daman, the Grand Slam. Three ones not as bad as three to oh. But when the star player on the Celtics ruptures and achilles, I'll just say the Knicks better come out hot in the first quarter tonight, or that's going to be a very very tense building over at the world's most famous arena.

I know this is it happened almost a week ago. I didn't get your take on this. Nick and I were aligned on this. I'm not listen. If the NBA was going to rig things, they wouldn't have Zion going to the Pelicans and Wemby.